Is root good? It sounds kinda overrated.

>>96087987 (OP)
No

>>96087987 (OP)
Are you really this desperate for threads to spam?

>>96087987 (OP)
Yes

>>96087987 (OP)
Aesthetically I love it, the meeples are so fun to play with. But I also hate playing the game

>>96088033
how am I spamming

>>96087987 (OP)
>good
Hell no
>overrated
Very

It's the epitome of game where you pay money for expansions to make your experience significantly worse. And baseline is already meh.
This game is like a golden triangle of ultra autistic design that means you need to be mental to both enjoy it, be good at it and want to keep (re)playing
>Majority of factions have a complete clusterfuck of moves, making a single turn a chore to go through
>Third of the game is deliberately made broken to fuck people up
>EXTREMELY confrontational gameplay, where if you aren't on an offensive or trying to at least drag someone down with you, you are a double loser
>It's a solved game for three factions, and you either play the solved moves, or you get ass-raped
>Two factions are unplayable unless you are playing 8D chess, and then RNG can still fuck your shit up anyway
Playing Root is a Monopoly-tier experience of "hey guys, do you want to ruin the evening for ourselves?". Except Monopoly is a meme and this piece of shit actively does that.
Also: the fandom is pure onions, so on top of annoying game, you have to deal with 1d4 obnoxious player when it's in play

>>96088066
This
>>96088209
/thread

>>96087987 (OP)
This is the good one

>>96088209
is there a game better than root that does what it intends to do? root is better than TI4 on the fact alone that it just takes an hour or two to play

>>96089446
COIN series

>>96090046
is there a better game than root that people that are not giganerds would play?

>>96087987 (OP)
The board game is fine. The roleplaying game is one of the worst PBTA games by virtue of not understanding that you are not supposed to have a thousand fucking moves for every possible edge case and minor activity.

>>96088094
It's just the schizo of the month

>>96090495
Not if you want the same concept

>>96089411
Meh. I like it better than Root and I love the light legacy elements, but I find the combat too skewed to defense, especially when it comes to seizing the banners late game.

Also, I'll never forget the look my new players gave me, when I explained that they had to dig through the deck to even find their win condition.

>>96087987 (OP)
>be Cats
>dominating board on way to victory
>other faction literary nukes me from the board with one card
fuck this shit

>>96088209
The badger/wargame expansion is the best one

The rules are a slog if someone doesnt learn them hard but I like it

>>96089446
Asymmetric area control game?

Tsukuyumi - minimal RNG; combat is resolved by you choosing a card of your faction to play and your opponent picks from the card's retaliatory actions; some truly wild factions (one faction destroys the map, another faction -becomes- the map). Miniature edition minis suck a bit though, and gonzo setting not for everyone (walking whales vs panda monks vs a coral reef is a legit game).

Cthulhu Wars - because you really want giant minis, simplistic gameplay, and have tons of money to throw out. Likely soon to be out of print, if it isn't already.

Vast - because you really like the guys who make Root for whatever reason, but you don't like Root itself. Honestly more asymmetric than Root as well IMO. Not an area control game though, and out of print.

I'm sure folks can throw out dozens more.

>>96089446
Unironically A Few Acress of Snow
>inb4 Halifax Hammer
There is a solid chance it got debunked before you even learned to read

>>96096259
Halifax Hammer?

>>96087987 (OP)
If you want to lose a friend make sure to have them play Riverfolk.

>>96098824
A meme "strategy" from AFAoS, which is supposed to be ultra-skewed toward British player.
Except for it to work out, French player would have to draw three times in a row the worst possible hand, the British player get a perfect draw in the same time and, probably more importantly, French player would need to be brain-dead and actively fuck up his own situation.
I am playing this game so long, I actually remember what clusterfuck 1e was. HH? Nigga please, I've got nearly twice as many wins ad French as I've got as Brits, and large part of it is because people still are trying to pull HH, which exposes them heavily for a French (counter)attacks and heavy raiding.

A game that people who play a lot of boardgames hate, but people who don't love.

This is a good and bad thing.

It provides a level of depth for non table-top people to get invested in which they aren't used to, isn't too hard to learn if they can follow what their player card says, and provides fun swingy moments.

For people who are more experienced with board games and can see the game's obvious bullshit and hone in on it, though, it turns into a shitfest.

>>96099522
Nice way of explaining it, for a moment I thought it was involving Halifax Donair shop Garlic Fingers, but putting that into context, it does make some sense.

>>96099155
They should play Riverfolk, or you?

>>96087987 (OP)
All "TTRPGs" are overrated, because their positive aspects are often just individual modifications and group experiences attributed to the given systems, and not positives present in the systems as they're sold.

>>96087987 (OP)
I dunno, I like it

Root's ok. It's fun, but it's not amazing. I'd rather play like... Small World for a domination style game.

>>96100345
I think Marauder is the best expansion, it rounds out the wargame feel and conditions. Of all the expansions it's the only one I have because it pulls ths focus back to a wargame
WITH BOARD GAMES GENERALLY i only ever buy one expansion, it just gets messy otherwise. It should stand on its own to be worth havimg. Root is good.

>>96100345
You should make them play Riverfolk.
Average Otter playthrough:
>Begin game
>No one interacts with your mechanics, ensuring you at least lose hardest
>You barely get to play the game
>You lose
>GG, anon!

>>96087987 (OP)
PbtA. By definition, it avoids role-playing and is an exercise in following instructions. With a timer.

>>96087987 (OP)
Root is good, actually root is actually great, it is more deep and crunch to mater than a lot of people who got hyped on it excepted.

Root does have a shelf life that is shorter than some of the most classic games though. For my group we still comeback to it but we kinda had seen everything after about 8 games of it. That said, those 8 games are worth the price of admission.

Where my Eyrie niggas at? Fuck the cats, bitch ass niggas

>>96104826
Preach

>>96104826
Every time I play birds on the digital version I mismanage my decrees and turmoil out.
Then woodlandfags get the dub.

>>96099155
>>96102824
top kek. it happened the only time someone played riverfolk in our group. and someone else is hyped to play them soon