Fighting with a flail - /tg/ (#96117722) [Archived: 137 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:41:29 AM No.96117722
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The Witch-King of Angmar was fucking cool.
I just want to ask how I should describe fighting with a flail. I mean, it just seems like you can't block or parry with it, and the head keeps bouncing back.
How do you wield it and, basically, not die?
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:46:53 AM No.96117754
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Keep chain shorter than shaft, so that you won't risk hitting your own hand on the backswing.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:51:45 AM No.96117775
They're awesome at smashing if you're fighting something that isn't moving around at all, like grain. They're less awesome if you miss your target and you probably want a buddy you can jump out from behind.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:53:21 AM No.96117781
>>96117722 (OP)
Most IRL fails had long shafts you used with two hands. You basically used them like a quarterstaff most of the time, with the added bonus of swinging.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 6:07:47 AM No.96117873
>>96117722 (OP)
Traditional games. That's how.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 7:41:18 AM No.96118256
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>>96117722 (OP)
>it just seems like you can't block or parry with it
YOU HAVE A FUCKING FLAIL, IDIOT. YOU ARE NOT THE ONE PARRYING.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:05:32 AM No.96118326
>>96117722 (OP)
As >>96117754 says, use a long handle. Many were derived from farming impliments used to thrash corn - the long handle allowed the user to thrash the target repeatedly and quickly for less effort and without the jarring that a mace or club would cause with every blow to your wrist/arm. This is particularly useful when striking at targets from horseback when galloping through a crowd.

If you are worried about blocking and parrying, either carry a small shield in your other hand to parry with, or extend the shaft to pole arm length - you can parry with the pole (like a spear) or use the long reach to clobber them as they try to close with you.

They are good against those who try to parry a blow with a shield or weapon. When you swing at them, they raise the shield/weapon expecting the flial head to bounce off or entangle the chain, but instead you extend your reach on the swing to tap their weapon or the top/side of the shield with the staff and the head whips round to strike them.

Flails are also useful against targets wearing early plate, as most only had plate on the front of their bodies, with only mail and padding on their back - hit them with the staff and the head whips round to strike their less armoured parts.

You do need a bit of room to swing it though, so watch out for allies to the side and rear of you. It isnt a weapon for close formation fighting.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:16:12 AM No.96118361
>>96118256
and on the odd chance you want/need to defend from an opponent while wielding a flail, you can use a shield. a heater sheilds and bucklers would likely be good picks as anything larger would likely impede on using your flail
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 8:23:28 AM No.96118396
>>96118326
>Many were derived from farming impliments used to thrash corn
anonโ€ฆ
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 10:08:04 AM No.96118777
>>96117722 (OP)
>it just seems like you can't block or parry with it
Depending on the chain and head geometry, you can bind a lot of weapons by kind of forcing them to parry you. Much more reliable with the Oriental style of chain weapons due to the improved control of using the chain directly instead of through a haft, but those need way more practice to get any good at.

>and the head keeps bouncing back.
In addition to having a long enough haft to hold without risk of the head bouncing back onto your hand, you could have a hand guard preventing it or an enemy weapon from impacting your hand at a higher grip doubling as a more conventional striking surface for the better follow-through or have the head be hollow and filled with shot to function as a dead-blow hammer to trade damage potential of sharp impacts for off-balancing total force transfer and much-reduced rebound.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 11:55:38 AM No.96119168
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>Realistic fighting
My character is going to dual wield flails while not wearing a helmet, possibly not even a shirt, and there's nothing you godless communists can do to stop him.
VAE VICTUS.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:44:44 PM No.96119335
Female Human Knight Paladin Old flail heavy gray white shield noble
>>96117722 (OP)
>I just want to ask how I should describe fighting with a flail
I mean I would focus on just how fucking cool it is. The sound of the head slicing through the air as you wind it up, how the sparks shoot off your enemies as you bash their armor in, how you whip the chain around their arm to pull them into a grapple.
>blocking
If you aren't using a shield then honstly I imagine just holding the flail forward and having the enemy attack contact the chain would fuck up their momentup and edge alignment. Or you could be cool and spin it around in front of you so fast any attack would get wrapped in the chain.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 12:54:15 PM No.96119381
>>96117722 (OP)
>The Witch-King of Angmar was fucking cool.

He got killed by a woman and a hobbit. He was a bitch.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:01:00 PM No.96119406
>>96117722 (OP)
In European medieval art, the modern stereotypical flail (short handle, long chain, round spiked iron head) was shown pretty much exclusively being used from horseback. On foot, you either saw the modified thresher flail (long pole, tiny chain with two or three links, relatively long wooden head usually studded), or occasionally a flail-like weapon that had two (or more) iron ball heads, a long chain, and no real handle (similar to a bola or a Chinese meteor hammer).
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 1:02:01 PM No.96119409
>>96119406
>bola
*bolas
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 2:08:56 PM No.96119719
>>96119381
>Eomyr
>Merry Brandybuck
>Not Cool
I am not having your shit.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:30:26 PM No.96120498
>>96118396
Corn, not maize you historically illiterate cunt.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:33:47 PM No.96120516
>>96120498
Archaisms that have been further specified in modern usage are not useful for communication. It's wrong to use "corn" in this case just as it's wrong to call a citrus an "apple".
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:38:52 PM No.96120550
>>96120516
Corn isn't that archaic even in the US, and I'm pretty sure the older meaning is still common in UK English.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:43:21 PM No.96120579
>>96120550
Still "further specified in modern usage". It has ceased to be a generic crop term, use "grain" or "cereal" like a normal person.
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Anonymous
7/18/2025, 4:44:54 PM No.96120587
>>96120550
>cornmeal
>it's actually just flour
shiggydiggy and so forth
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 5:03:01 PM No.96120688
>>96120579
Nah. It's not wrong, and the context makes it clear.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:10:03 PM No.96123493
>>96120516
Corn being used for maize insn't an Archaism, it's an Americanism that isn't even universally true in America.
Anonymous
7/18/2025, 9:57:11 PM No.96124469
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What a fucking nerd argument.
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Anonymous
7/19/2025, 1:10:09 AM No.96126311
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>>96124469
SUPER AGGRO CRAG !!lvskrld+4TB
7/19/2025, 2:42:03 AM No.96127073
>>96117722 (OP)
here's some youtube videos where guys experiment with flails

https://youtu.be/MpIPX30v62c?si=SdyTRluIr0kpU_E6

https://youtu.be/K5sPDbwr7EI?si=spcsctj-QKzsL97R
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:40:08 AM No.96129183
>>96120516
>>96120579
We call wheat corn here in the UK still.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 9:46:33 AM No.96129203
>>96119168
Semper Fi, anon.
Anonymous
7/19/2025, 4:26:31 PM No.96130994
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>>96119168
>you, poet, write this down