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Previous: >>95968633

Why do you allow xenos characters in your games? If you don't, why do you not?

Speaking of xenos characters, should I use wrath and glory for an all ork adventure or rogue trader?

>>96131415 (OP)
Alright so me and my friends are all lazy retards
Which system is the equivalent of like d&d5e in its simplicity?
I have the capacity to learn rules and shit but they dont lmao

>>96132111
WanG

>>96132157
Aight I’ll look into it, thanks boss
I know Dark Heresy you play as inquisitors and Rogue trader is rogue traders and shit
What is WanG? Space Marines?

>>96131692
>>96132111
I've been playing in W&G for about five sessions and I think I prefer it over the old FFG systems. It's much more conducive to high-octane action and being bad-asses; so if you're looking for grim and grittiness, you probably want to stick with FFG.

>>96132196
NTA; but unlike the old FFG lines, W&G is not geared towards a particular type of campaign. There are options for Imperium characters from hive scum to inquisitors, as well as options for Orks and Eldar.
Though technically a homebrew fan supplement, there's a PDF called Abundance of Apocrypha which was written by one of the original developers and seems to be well-regarded and often used by players. It has more options for all of the above plus Tau, Dark Eldar, and Chaos.

What's this I hear about Dark Heresy and MAID RPG using the same system?

What's a stereotypical Rogue Trader GM like?

>>96133302
One player selects a Rogue Trader and the rest select various Human archetypes (not xenos, they're icky!). Then you go to the approved Koronus Expanse, fight approved xenos and heretic forces, collect approved treasures, watch your stock market number go up, and at GM-determined stock market number you declare the game complete, patting yourselves on the back for nailing the approved 40k themes.

>>96131415 (OP)
What psyker powers would be best for an inquisitor who uses guns? We are gonna be using imperium maledictum

>>96133741
Probably something that helps his bullets hit home
Maybe some sort of minor precognition

>>96133741
Luck minor psychic power and Divination's Armor Bane seem fitting.
Tell us more about your character

>DH2
>Want to select voidborn homeworld to flavor pc as a longshanks
>I know that +30 to zero gravity maneuvers will never come up in game
Oh well

>>96127761
>leave psyker behind
You made the right choice.

My players want to run Imperium Maledictum as Inquisitors but I've got a case of adventure designer's block. Anybody got any premium seeds they would be willing to part with?

Rolled 6 + 1 (1d10 + 1)

Fuck it. Rogue Trader ship battles time. You have 150 Ship Points to assemble a task force. Archeotech is permitted only via the Reliquary of Mars ship history, which must be rolled for. You may choose not to roll for a ship history. Machine Spirit oddities will not be used, background packages are not permitted. Battle will use Mathhammer rules. For Crew Rating, roll a d6 - 1 is 40, 2-3 is 50, 4-5 is 60, 6 is 70. For simplification, shipboard actions will be resolved with the rules for NPC starships from BFK p.114, including those regarding morale and crew population (double Crew Rating's bonus to these calculations).
I'm not an attack craft guru so if you start using that you'd better damned well have the rules on lockdown, with page number references.
If you want special torps, roll for 'em, fucko. You get a single acquisition test against PF 80, each success is one volley for one ship. Remember the malus from rarity, dipshits, you're not getting six volleys of Vortex no matter how godlike your rolls.
I'll get to working on my flagship while I wait to see if there's any interest.

Rolled 4 (1d6)

>>96135937
Screwballed the second die, I think. Panicked for a sec at that 1.

>>96134600
We are gonna be taking place on necromunda and im not sure of a concept yet since we are still on the planning stages but I imagine them as some voidborn rat orphan who can do little tricks and since divination does sound good maybe folks noticed he tends to always get away with his antics. an inquisitor happened to noticed it while aboard his home station and took him to be sanctioned and after the whole training the inquisitor cameback for him then put him trials to be an interrogator and investigator then he got put in service of another patron to join another band of people to see whats going on there. Sorry im not a good backstory writer and im only half proficient in lore

>>96135264
I know, all our group's space trips had functioning gravity, my voidborn longshank didn't have any chance to shine. :-(

But it's still funny playing as one and treating other PCs as manlets.

>>96135689
Just steal Eisenhorn and file off the serial numbers if you're doing multiple inquisitors rather than a single group of acolytes. You're all investigating X chaos cults and they run into this noble house a few steps up the chain and end up bumbling into each other. They co-operate, they manage to luck out and catch the House out, the House is actually a front for a radical phaenonite inquisitor a step up. To get to the Inquisitor you need to do something vaguely radical-ish (Not something like the Pontius, that'd give the game away) but some sort of infiltration or sneaky thing to get X artefact that'll reveal what the House was up to for this inquisitor. When they get it they manage to kill the house and an army group or two, only the inquisitor to start fucking with them at a distance. To clear their names - or start unfucking their networks - they have to find this guy. In finding him it's a goddamned mess, and offer them a few shortcuts in exchange for a little bit of corruption. Maybe just ask that daemon that knows everything instead of banish it. Finally set it aside and kill the radical. At this point bring back something from the campaign to fuck with them that they gave into temptation about - the daemon has taken an interest in them, a cultist they let go is burning worlds in their name, whatever.

>>96136332
Only tangential, but I really like the EVE Jovian portraits as voidborn vs the quasi-greys. They're just a little to alien to pass in the Imperium though, sadly.

>>96138745
Wasn't there an Eldar who infiltrated human society because of how ugly and mutated it was?
That nose is weird, but looks... how to say it, passable.

I'm still mad about Church of Steel not having voidship rules.

>>96139542
My GM was annoyed that the skipped a few obscure Forge World models like the Centaur.

>>96139542
If they cover that, I imagine that it'll have its own book.

>>96140513
They cut super heavies and voidships, stated they would be in their own release, and that was four years ago.

>>96140749
>and that was four years ago
Oh, dear.
Is the line not doing well?

What is your opinion on gating more specific bits of knowledge behind having more advances in lore skills instead of/in addition to harder rolls so you can't just have a character with high int and +0 being able to know everything about (topic).

>>96138745
>They're just a little to alien to pass in the Imperium though, sadly.
Ogryn are legally humans, if they're ok. That pic looks fine. If a bit more mutated than "average". Keep the weird in 40k, it's what is being lost in current 40k.

>>96140954
My GM didn't like it either, hence our recent switch to W&G.
He did do something roundaboutly similar when it came to Lore skills pertaining to xenos. There was a penalty to anything xenos related (Linguistics to understand, Medicae to provide aid, Tech Use to understand their technology, etc.); and that penalty could only be mitigated by actual ranks in the appropriate lore skill.

>>96141293
>My GM didn't like it either, hence our recent switch to W&G.
Should clarify, that wasn't the only reason; there were several.

>>96141415
Do list them. As someone who couldn't stand Wrath and Glory, I'm interested in hearing the reasoning.

>>96140835
NTA, it seems to have an absolutely slashed writing team that also seems to be making wild balance changes. They had a space marine book a while ago with psychic powers that were straight upgrades on corebook powers. And then some of them were specifically restricted to their OC chapter. The corebook powers kinda sucked, but they didn't seem to have considered how to update them or how to add stuff in and the whole thing was riddled with errors. They probably just didn't have the time.

>>96141617
>Do list them.
To reiterate, it was my GM who proposed the change; I was doing just fine with Black Crusade. He rattled off his reasoning but I couldn't articulate them off the top of my head.
What do you not like about W&G?

>>96141661
Hmmm. That's a bummer.

>>96135384
We did it because we were walking into a huge crowd of Emperor fanatics. If he wasn't an obvious voidborn mutie, he could have passed as a pilgrim like the others. The cogboy even removed all his mechadendrites.

But then he might have been pinged as a psyker by the mind rapist woman. Either was it was the right choice because him using far sight again got him watching the past events, specifically the ones where the 15yo nodiffed Tsyiak.

>Future becomes past becomes present.
At first he saw an empty and abandoned settlement, now he sees it during the middle of the events 35 years ago. My new schizo theory is that we mind end up time traveled during the eventual fight.

Which would be really fucking cool, but the issue is reporting that later when mission is over.

>>96139150
>>96141005
Well, here's the female version. The eyes, joined nose and ears are the main physical changes from baseline humanity. The skin tone almost matches canon voidborn, and hair/veins? Eh.

Iit's so immediately pinging your "weird shit" brain hardware that I can see the Imperium reeeing. Still. Voidborn are pretty weird. Voidborn who got a genetic engineering pass, maybe.

Lore questions:

What do the Tau do for entertainment? Do they have video games and sports like we do?

Is there a "Deadpool" in 40k? Someone who breaks the 4th wall and talks to the audience?

Why don't the Craft World Eldar go to war and wipe out the Dark Eldar? Aren't they a big problem for each other?

>>96143564
>What do the Tau do for entertainment?
They die, and we are entertained by this.
>Is there a "Deadpool" in 40k? Someone who breaks the 4th wall and talks to the audience?
No, but we do have Lucius the Eternal, who has similar amounts of 'impossible to kill'. Of course, this is because he's a fucking joke, but still.
>Why don't the Craft World Eldar go to war and wipe out the Dark Eldar?
Why don't hippies go to war and wipe out New York City? Commoragh is approximately the size of a solar system, Craftworlders live in vans down by the river.

>>96143637
Craftworlds have a higher population than the DEldar

How should I stat up Ratlings, Ogryn and Kin for imperium maledictium?

>>96143688
...What part of 'Commoragh is a city the size of a solar system' did not register in your little peanut brain?

>>96143688
Craftworld Eldar make their children naturally. Dark Eldar sometimes do that, but mostly they just pump them out of the tanks in job lots.

Does Gene Seed need to be kept within a chapter or can you mix it between chapters?

Given how difficult it is to find someone worth training and how often the training leads to the person dying why don't chapters just clone the best guy they have so they can always have enough?

>>96144621
I would strongly suggest familiarizing yourself with the lore presented in books. This is answered in their codex.
>>96144718
Cloning doesn't work that way in the Imperium.

>>96144718
>select aspirants from the hardiest possible stock, born into hardship, trained in the harshest, most lethal environments known to man
>ruin all of that by raising clones of those dudes in conditions entirely different to those in which they thrived
Man live in tribe, always have work to do, always alert for danger, good lookout, strong hunter.
Man live in cubicle, no work, only numbers, no danger, only walls, shit lookout, weak and frail.
Want to emulate life that made them strong? expensive. costly. requires constant monitoring so you don't lose return on investment. at that point you may as well just go to the places that are already harsh and skim from there, which is what they already do.
And, to build on what >>96144729 said, cloning doesn't work like that. Good cloning is archaeotech, bad cloning gets you horrific mutants. Good fucking luck building up enough rep with the cogboys for them to operate a cloning lab for you, on top of supplying you wargear, maintaining your ships, and handling your geneseed. Aspirants are absolutely not the bottleneck for making new marines.

>>96144767
I believe there's an Iron Hands successor chapter that does cloning, but that's really just confirmation of your point considering just how close they are with the admech.

Over the past few months I have read every major 40k rpg rulebook from cover to cover. I have decided that I prefer Dark Heresy and Imperium Maledictum over Wrath&Glory for various reasons, but the main one would be I prefer minutia, percentile dice, and having rules for everything over the "story comes first" broad strokes approach that W&G takes. I also generally prefer low power things like guardsmen and imperial acolytes over stuff like space marines and eldar. Dark Heresy really clicks with what I personally enjoy about 40k but my impression is that Imperium Maledictum is very much the "spiritual successor" to Dark heresy, since it not only uses the same percentile system, but also has high lethality which I liked about Dark Heresy, and is generally lower power level like Dark Hersey was.

What would be the best way to actually play, now that I know the rules, and which games I'm most interested in? My local store is pretty small and doesn't have much of an rpg scene, so it would likely be online. I have roll20, tabletop simulator, fantasy grounds, and most of the popular online digital roleplaying programs, but I haven't looked into the 40k scene for any of these, I've mostly only played dnd 5e, dnd 3.x, and pathfinder on those.

>>96145630
Can I get a run down on Maledictum? I'm thinking of tackling a 40K rpg as my next solo rpg and would like to know more about it.

>>96144718
There was a regiment like that with all clones of imperial heroes. They did well in battle and then immediately ate shit due to bad luck afterwards.

>>96147277
Because the Imperium has sub-par cloning technology.

>>96143862
Not that anon, but apparently CWE being more numerous does appear in some official sources, even if it makes no sense and contradicts other sources

A lot of stuff in codices, magazines, and campaign books is poorly edited filler material written by interns, and even when the more experienced GW writers are involved, they often push their own headcanons and powerwank, which makes making even rough estimates on numbers for non-marine factions impossible

>>96147522
>>96147277
>>96144718
To make a clone in 40k you must split the soul, clones without don't really work well and blanks that survive are comparatively rare. The clone becomes a vessel for that incomplete soul or doesn't have one at all, with all that entails.

This is entirely based on reading between the lines on all the lore of Krieg though, that the reason the Vitae Wombs are so heretical is the same reason the DKoK are atoning, and the same reason for their ultimate secret and never removing the masks. That the process of creating more soldiers is destroying the very essential soul of Jurten one piece at a time and if they do not hurry it up there will be nothing left of him to stand at the Emprah's side.
Archmagos Greel is a right bastard aint he?

>>96148250
Which sources?

>>96148288
NTA, just some asshole that digs in rulebooks for lore goodies to use for my own purposes, I have also seen the allusion that there's more craftworlders than deldar, but because they're all isolated it's like comparing the entire world population of Neanderthals at their height to the earliest European homo sapiens in the same area, they lived together and traded between tribes, so if it had ever come right down to it, a war between these groups would favor the unified, however small, over the separated.

Now, I have also heard about the Harlequins having their own huge fuckass space so I can also see deldar getting their own huge fuckass space and I would ultimately assume it was like Necron tesseracts, that that universe city exists but not where it actually matters, if you get to the place where they keep it that is significantly smaller you can destroy it. Not cannon, just my internal marriage of writer bullshittery.

Who do you think The Emperor blames most for the Heresy?

>>96148565
Allegorical Eve

>>96143787
By checking the mountain of homebrew in the official discord to check if someone's already done it (likely).

Was there ever a dark heresy knockoff like how two handed sword is for WFRP?

>>96148565
The woman whose fault they made it canonically. Before that it was the very reflective and nuanced 'himself' but they did themselves dirty.

Why do you fags keep bumping old threads.

>>96149612
Listen here shitbelly
Every thread on this board is viable for discussion before it gets bumped off.
No exceptions.
Yes snotwipe, even autosage theads.
You wish you could have seen
>timebeforegenerals.mov
but that knowledge is lost to you like tears in rain and there aint no going back so long as you faggots forget lurk moar was actual advice for a reason.

>>96143564
>What do the Tau do for entertainment? Do they have video games and sports like we do?
Civilians? Probably, in some way or another. They're a fairly liberal society, although it's nebulous how good non-blue people have it in thwir actual society and colonies.

>Is there a "Deadpool" in 40k? Someone who breaks the 4th wall and talks to the audience?
Of the regulars, non-one off characters? Kaldor Draigo gets fucky here and there.

>Why don't the Craft World Eldar go to war and wipe out the Dark Eldar? Aren't they a big problem for each other?
Because they're not enemies, are somewhat dependable allies on occasion and have an exchange of people between their societies through the Corsairs.

>>96144718
Probably a lot cheaper to just get a bunch of sturdy-looking savages and throw gene organs at whichever survive whatever bullshit passes for aspirant trials inthat particular chapter.

But if we're gonna talk about resource effectiveness there probably wouldn't even be any Marines around, so it's a moot point anyways.

>>96144718
>t.

>>96149612
I have been attending the /40krpg/ thread in its various incarnations for the past seven years, pausing only when 4chan itself shit the bed, and there is no manner on this world or any other in which I will be turned from that course by a schlong-mongler like you.

>>96148254
Only because human cloning is bad. The Votann don't have this issue. They can even edit souls to purpose.

>>96150329
Yet another reason why Votann lore is bad

>>96150329
All powerful magic AI is such a cheap cop out I hope the Necrons eradicate your miserable species and destroy your fucking shard you miserable thieves.

>>96150396
WHF started to die when they stopped updating it, and then around 8th edition they went "lol let's make it like 40k" and started editing the lore. And when that didn't work and it was nothing but deathstars and people kept playing old editions instead of buying the shit sculpts, they went "okay, let's kill it with this end times campaign" and cheated so their super special oc's would win. And then there's the current shitfight that is TOW vs AOS.

And it's almost like they're starting to do it with warhammer. "Sales are falling! Why? I don't know! Let's make it more like.. uh, warhammer fantasy!". Yes I know squats were already a thing but they didn't quite have the full 'dwarf experience'.

Looking as the fan supplements for Deathwatch, Gold Experience Requiem, and they have a weapon trait called Vengeful(x). Does anyone know where it says what that does?

>going to GM a Deathwatch one shot for my usual party
>none of them played it before so I offered making characters for them, two took me up on the offer
>one wants to play a techmarine (he plays mechanicum in KT) and the other an apothecary, but they don't really know that much about the universe beyond the basic premise they left the chapter selection to me
Got some funny ideas? At first I thought I'll just make the techmarine an Iron Hand and the apothecary a Blood Angel to just keep it simple, but I'm tempted with making some funny combinations like an impatient White Scars techmarine that wishes he was driving a land speeder rather than fortifying the position.

>going to GM a Deathwatch one shot for my usual party
>none of them played it before so I offered making characters for them, two took me up on the offer
>one wants to play a techmarine (he plays mechanicum in KT) and the other an apothecary, but they don't really know that much about the universe beyond the basic premise they left the chapter selection to me
Got some funny ideas? At first I thought I'll just make the techmarine an Iron Hand and the apothecary a Blood Angel to just keep it simple, but I'm tempted with making some funny combinations like an impatient White Scars techmarine that wishes he was driving a land speeder rather than fortifying the position.

>>96151763
Triggers righteous fury on that number or above. It's in DH2e, page 150. I don't think it was ever entered into deathwatch. They used a talent based solution.

>going to GM a Deathwatch one shot for my usual party
>none of them played it before so I offered making characters for them, two took me up on the offer
>one wants to play a techmarine (he plays mechanicum in KT) and the other an apothecary, but they don't really know that much about the universe beyond the basic premise they left the chapter selection to me
Got some funny ideas? At first I thought I'll just make the techmarine an Iron Hand and the apothecary a Blood Angel to just keep it simple, but I'm tempted with making some funny combinations like an impatient White Scars techmarine that wishes he was driving a land speeder rather than fortifying the position.

>>96135937
>no one cares about discount BFG
sadge

>>96151814
Raptor's techmarine and Lamenters apothecary

>>96151834
It just seems it would be incredibly slow and clunky to do over 4chan

>>96151975
I guess.

What psychic powers would be fitting for a "tech-witch" type of character (basically a Heretek with psy abilities)?

>>96151811
Thanks

>>96152375
What system? If it's 1e, check out the radical's handbook and the heretek savant for some tech updates. There's a tech-disruptor somewhere in 1e, I believe, that's basically a blank for technology.

That said: Ideally, straight up sorcery and theme it technologically in game. If you must have psyker powers directly, telepathy and call it tapping into the universal datastream, but nothing is really tech-y for psyker powers in most editions.

>>96152463
>What system
Black Crusade

>>96152514
Ah. Sorry, never played it, no idea. Liber Imperium has some fun stuff for the noosphere as optional rules if you're interested in that, I think a link to 1.6 was posted in the last thread, or maybe the one before that. Maybe ask your GM if you can have a low end power that inflicts tech scorn on others.

This is a long shot, but does anyone have the Psychic Powers for the Emperor's Nightmare?

>>96152843
can't upload pdfs, so I'm typing:
Living Nightmares: 18 inch range, one unit, roll d6.
1- Opponent moves 2d6" in any direction and is immune to the power for the rest of the game.
2- -1I, -1" move/charge
3- Pass -1LD test or abort any actions they take next turn
4-Spend a full turn not moving, shooting or assaulting they fire one less shot than they should on all attacks, lose +1A for pistol or close combat in assault
5- -1 WS/BS/LD for the next turn.
6- Target falls back, 2d6 hits equal to the unit's average strength.

Blackest Night - 24" range, gives a friendly unit a 5+ cover save or +1 to those with a cover save

>>96153187
Oh, sorry. I should have made myself clear; I was asking for the old homebrewed RPG system.

If not, I'll just use what's on the Raven Guard psychic powers in Rites of Battle.

Thanks anyway, anon.

>>96143044
>Which would be really fucking cool, but the issue is reporting that later when mission is over.
Imagine getting stuck in the past and having to use like a servo-skull voice message to report whatever happened to your unit.
Than again, 35 years isn't THAT long in the grand scheme of things.

>>96133335
>(not xenos, they're icky!)
But I want more xenos, I'm a Rogue Trader god dammit I do what I want.

>>96154716
But then you're not playing REAL 40k! You have to stick to the THEMES!

>>96151962
I can see the Raptor being interesting, but the bleeding heart medic might be too on the nose.

>>96155021
Flesh tearer?

>>96155021
Iron hands

>>96155021
Black shield because the geneseed they gathered was lost when they got an arm chopped off or it was hit in the chaos of battle.

>>96155051
I was considering this one but the guy is too chill to play a Flesh Tearer.
>>96155060
Oh, a reversal, now that might be the key.
>>96155086
I think that might be too advanced for their 40k knowledge.

Is there a character builder for Rogue Trader?

Need some ideas for a dark heresy campaign. The players, as acolytes, would need to infiltrate the palace/bunker of a rich noble which made no public appearance in decades and known for collecting sacred religious art from across the sector. After defeating automated defense systems, they find the noble dead. He shot himself while restoring a painting. The art below, which is ancient, and most probably genuine, hints at a terrible, heretical, secret.

This is where I'm looking for inspiration: I was thinking like a proof that big E is posterior to the DAOT, or that it's horus that is sitting on the throne and keeping the emperor at bay. I'm not sure about those ideas.
I would need something that would tempt some of the players to uncover the secret and put themselves where out of curiosity they are seen as 100% heretical while more orthodox one would think of it as a danger. Something that could be true while you can't really exclude the idea that it's ruinous power at work, trying to sow confusion in men's minds.

>>96157005
Could do the old "daemon in a painting" trick and restoring it sucked his soul into it or possessed him. From there, the daemon can show whatever it wants on the painting only changing when not viewed.

>>96157005
>posterior to the DAOT
Can you clarify what you mean by that?

>>96157060
Was a genetical weapon developed to fight the robots. Emperor is a DNA edited psycker warlord gone rogue and not the god that nurtured humanity since it's inception.

I started running a Deathwatch game myself, and have in my spare time been creating homebrew for my players. Here's one of the custom Chapters I made to give them an option (they all have shit fellowship, so might as well keep them comfortable). Keep in mind I have used ChatGPT to help make this, as I have found it to be fairly competent, but I still want some good critizism as it should be as balanced as Space Marines can be. And to the point I made above, we have a Flesh Tearers Apothecary, an Iron Hands Techmarine, a Blood Ravens Librarian, and a Blackshield (Black Templars) Assault Marine.
https://mega.nz/file/OkABGZ7Q#qHpl4BQ9aMlNCWR83rxFJkFywosoVOoFM1xqmfTWbcw

>>96153310
Shame. Sorry. For anyone in the future who bumbles across an archived thread looking for the chapter's stuff, i tracked down the original post rather than my pdf copy.

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/14491925/#q14495354
>>96155584
There isn't, but there is a ship builder.
>>96157005
You can throw a red herring at them with the Ateanists which was my first thought with your post. Basically scholars and artists eventually discover the Eris Transform which makes an artwork far closer to perfect and also does warpy stuff, ranging from soul-delivered heroin to localised warp storms to "surprise you're a daemonhost!". Even better, throw it in a wing that's labelled condemned so they think this guy discovered it, realised the threat and threw it off.

The Tower of Babel exists in 40k, and it echoes through time and reality. You could have a series of paintings that, when put together, show the entire thing before it came down. And make it so that under some circumstances it shows a fragment of the Horus Heresy and the 'true' history.

The builder, the man at the very top, the man facing the sky and shaking his fist? Not the Emperor. If the final painting has a secondary vision, have it be Horus on the throne facing off against sky emperor and the tower the battered Imperium. Have something that definitely isn't a daemonhost that manifests to give them screamed warnings and clues when enough of the paintings are together. Something that the causes Imperial statues to bleed and warp when manifest, but leaves humans completely unharmed. Could be a daemon, could be a dead human god, could be a bit of warp trickery, could be the original builder, could just be a single really well informed human soul. Maybe it's something from that time that still exists in the echoes and it's trying to warn them about Big E. Hell, Enuncia's a bit of a weird topic but you could read the Ravenor books to pick up the enemy who does things with sacred architecture and Enuncia.

I'm running Dark Heresy for the first time this friday. I'm a bit scared of having it play like CoC but with more combat.
I think I'm going to do some genestealer cult conspiracy.

>>96131415 (OP)
>Why do you allow xenos characters in your games?
Because the whole point of being a Rogue trader is flaunting all the sick shit you can get away with.

>>96157114
Do you mean prior to?

>>96158031
Not him, but: Posterior doesn't just mean arse, it means coming after something. So posterior to the dark age is after the dark age. Also the source of the post- prefix, like post-heresy or an antonym to ante, like antediluvian.

>>96154716
>>96155007
Party has no aliens: Absolutely puritanical
Party has one alien: Typical Rogue Trader party
Party has two aliens: Suspected xenophile
Party has three or more aliens: Heretical, purge in fire.
Issue being that if the GM doesn't put the kibosh on xenos, the whole damned party might decide to play one in search of muh super special OC donut steel. Mono-race nonhuman parties could work, but severely lack critical supporting infrastructure.

>>96158091
>Mono-race nonhuman parties could work, but severely lack critical supporting infrastructure.
What kind of infrastructure

>>96158259
In-depth careers, at all. Starships and components. Equipment variety.
Say you want to play as eldar corsairs. You don't have a career for that at all, they only made dark eldar. You find some homebrew for it. You don't have a hull for it either, though, nor equipment. You snag one of the NPC ships from Koronus and resign yourself to the knowledge that you'll never be able to customize it. Now it's time to equip your guy. You have one eldar powersword, one set of paired eldar power swords, one razorwire injector, one shuriken weapon per size category, one lasblaster, one fusion rifle, a psychic spear and a force weapon equivalent. You have a plasma grenade and a monofilament grenade. You have one forcefield, and you may be able to dig up some kind of armor, somewhere. Everything else is for dark eldar, good luck with that unless you want to become one.
Contrast with the legions of imperial weapon and equipment choices a Rogue Trader has available. Is it fun for your choices to be constrained to the bare minimum converted from the tabletop?
Essentially, if you want to do this and have fun with it, you're going to make your GM write up half the fucking game all over again, because it wasn't designed for anything outside of playing an actual rogue trader - and playing a rogue trader means you're either human, or you've tricked the universe into thinking you are.

>>96158499
Well, most of the /tg/ homebrew is pretty thorough for corsairs, tau, and even necrons. Ironically I think only Orks are missing player ork ships.

>>96158070
>Posterior Analytics is not Aristotle's Examination of Butts

>>96159130
The only one with xenos "infrastructure" is shas, because he's the only one weird enough to run all xenos games. Most people want normal games.

Random lore questions:

Given that the Primarchs were made in a lab do they still have navels?

If a Space Marine eats a Tyranid bio form do they gain the memories of the hive mind or do they get assimilated into it?

How cannon is the belief that the Blood Ravens go around stealing other chapters relics?

Can Orcs or Tyranids be used as fertilizer or does that just make more of them?

Do civilians or Guardsmen know how Space Marines are made?

>>96159781
They are, arguably, balls of warp stuff that Big E tricked into thinking they were human. It Depends.
The Marine gains the memories of that specific bioform, and is also horrifically poisoned, because they tend to melt into acid on death.
They have a literal suit of Custodes warplate. Figure it out.
Orks have spores. If you plant a mushroom, it grows. Nids dissolve into acid. This is bad for your soil.
Your average civvie is lucky if they live long enough to learn how humans are made. Why in the flintstone fuck would they be privy to the secrets of biologically engineering superhumans?

For playing a melee psyker in RT, is my best option porting a character over from DH? I've heard that gets pretty weird, and it looks like the DH character would be more powerful than the equivalent RT character. Do I just play Astropath and live with the fact that I don't get combat disciplines, combat talents or WS?
Captcha: NVGAY

how can they improve terminators? I love the chonky bois and im currently doing some up nice to look very iron handish but they are extremely mid for the points and dont work in my ironstorm spearhead.

>>96159796
is primarchs being actually beings from the warp canon tho?

If so it seems very plausible that they cant truly " die"

>>96160848
Wrong thread

>>96160854
On the one hand, Eldar Pantheon.
On the other hand, Ferrus is apparently slumming it with the Legion of the Damned.

>>96160891
my mistake, thought this was 40k general

>>96159781
Orks are mushrooms and like in the real world, they can absolutely be used as fertilizer if they are sufficiently dead and cleansed of spores beforehand. The spores are hardy, but we're not talking about some sort of super virus here, the orks work primarily on sheer quantity. Anyone remotely familiar with orks is likely familiar with the process, as you want to be cleansing ork spores anyway.

>>96160386
Pretty much. Track down the Templar Calixis and see if you can get a side grade out of your gm, or a weird psyker arch militant thing going.

Any tips before running Black Crusade? It’ll be the first time for my party playing evil dudes.

>>96161402
Double check the rules because there are some editing errors here and there like how the horde section forgot that flame got split into flame and spray. Ideally, do not mix humans and marines. Skipping the alignment checkbook balancing can save everybody a headache when it comes to alignment. Chaos is antagonistic and deceitful but not ALL the time.

Hey broskis. I intend on doing a sesh set sometime in M36 before the Dutch cunt got deposed. How shitty was life then? I mean, reading HH gave a pretty shitty picture of M31 Imperium. But never did I see stuff like 18 hour workdays, mandatory random brain scans of schoolchildren for faithfulness, and other nastiness. More like letting the governor do his thing if tithes are paid. At which point did working yourself to death become something that complaining about would be seen as heresy?

>>96161437
>How shitty was life then?
Yes. It actually got to the point where rebellion reached terra, so go nuts.

>>96161450
Nigga I'm asking if it's okay to turn M36 into just M42 in terms of work environment. Judge Dredd but with employed people rather than Great Crusade optimism.

>>96161436
>Ideally, do not mix humans and marines
Is this because marines are superior to humans?

>>96161502
Wildly different XP progression. By the time your marine gets to do anything other than kill shit, your buddy's mortal character is a polyglot, loremaster, and just as much of a murderblender as the space marine.

>>96161544
>By the time your marine gets to do anything other than kill shit, your buddy's mortal character is a polyglot, loremaster, and just as much of a murderblender as the space marine.

Only a fa/tg/uy will complain about something this fucking based.

>>96161502
Yes. They get power armor and unnatural toughness by default and it goes up from there so anything that can threaten a marine will pulp a human especially early on.

>>96161544
They have the same exp progression in BC.

>>96161611
I guess I'm just talking out my ass then.

>>96143564
>What do the Tau do for entertainment?
Depends on the sept. All T'au are fanatically devoted to the Greater Good (for their race), but it isn't unified at all. Then you have the castes that further divide them.
The earth caste does all the grunt work, but also builds beautiful cities and does all the research. The fire caste is the most likely to spend time doing sports and disciplined samurai hobbies. Water caste is all about people so they have the most parties, I'd assume. Air caste is literally chair force, and they're even more fucked up physically than the Imperium's voidborn.
I don't think they would allow videogames to exist, other than training simulations. It is of no use to the Greater Good. Any media is heavily policed, or it wouldn't be the T'au.
>Why don't the Craft World Eldar go to war and wipe out the Dark Eldar?
Eldar see themselves as the superior race in a galaxy infested by inferiors. They are not enemies most of the time, but the galaxy is a big place and the toy soldiers fight sometimes.
>>96144718
There's a quote somewhere from a space marine that explained it straight. Chapters need to fill in a lot of roles. Some Marines need to excel on specialized weapons or vehicles. Some need to obey orders, others need to command. Some will do thankless tasks, others will kill just for the renown. You don't get that with clone*1000.
>>96144621
I'm pretty sure that the Marines would notice they have different geneseed and that could affect cohesion.
>>96145630
I'm sorry but if you read the rules and never played them, your opinion doesn't count. You'll know what I mean when you experience a campaign.
If you want to run a game, remember that rules isn't a selling point. You either pitch a good adventure, sell the setting, or coerce your friends to play with you.
>>96154716
The problem with xenos crew is xenos players. They suck. All of them.
>>96160386
Melee Navigator is much more powerful with that one power that let's you attack with Per.

>>96144718
The only thing marines use clones for is for emergency mass production of geneseed since you can get 2 in 10 years per clone.

>>96157005
>Something that could be true while you can't really exclude the idea that it's ruinous power at work, trying to sow confusion in men's minds.
It's easier to call important local history into question than galactic/setting history due to all the meta-knowledge players have about the latter. An example from the FFG Calixis setting would be something that call the nature and loyalty of Saint Drusus into question (maybe something portraying him as a psyker or an ally of Xenos). Something critical to the world/subsector/sector history will be much easier for you to make players as well as characters seriously doubt. Such matters will also be more widely known and more important to the faith and loyalty of local people and also easier for NPCs to question. It's important that the doubts lead to a real need for further investigation by implying some lingering danger, otherwise coverup will be too obvious a solution. The truth doesn't really matter to the Inquisition, after all - just protection of the Imperium.

Any books you'd like to see in the future?

>>96163981
A Chaos supplement for Wrath & Glory.

>>96162501
>The problem with xenos crew is xenos players. They suck. All of them.
People on /tg/ used to love xenos and xenos games. But now, the children yearn for the tropes.

>>96161492
Yes. The Great Crusade actually made things worse for a lot of worlds when they realised the scale of things required to meet the tithe. Those work practices stuck and were pretty firmly in place by the time of M33, let alone m36.
>>96163981
A better psyker system and a system that isn't an attempt to create a fucking proprietary 7 die system.

>>96165935
No, sorry, 'c7dX' or whatever they're fluffing it as, not 7 die. My mistake.

>>96163981
Top three would be...
>Imperial Navy book with void combat rules
>skulduggery book with commerce shit - this and the Navy book essentially letting you play RT 2e
>heretics book that essentially allows for BC 2e

>>96165935
>A better psyker system
What's so wrong with the current one?

>>96166451
Mana bar and guaranteed phenomena combined with powers that make dh2e look well done.

>>96167288
>Mana bar and guaranteed phenomena
Are bad because?
>powers that make dh2e look well done
Examples?

DH2e has vortex of doom, the dumbest power I've ever seen in a 40krpg. Hard to top that.

>>96165944
Can you elaborate, that term is ungooglable.

>>96167699
NTA but I assume this
https://cubicle7games.com/en_US/blog/c7d20-our-design-goals
c7, cubicle 7, dx, die size whatever
was that not relatively intuitive or am I just vastly more acoustic than your average bear

>>96167699
It's just a pet peeve, I fucking hate 'proprietary dice'. And a chance to tell some marketing intern to go fuck himself is always fun.

>>96165935
>>96168428
>and a system that isn't an attempt to create a fucking proprietary 7 die system.
Why are you complaining about proprietary dice systems with regards to a game that's not using a proprietary dice system? Are you expecting it to do a core mechanic turnaround somehow?

>>96168461
It's used across their other games and they slapped their own name on it, fuck 'em and fuck their mana bars.

>>96168478
Even the link you posted doesn't say anything at all about proprietary dice systems; it's about their dee und dee edition five fork and about how awfully nondistinct it is going to be. They probably could make a compatible 40k game, but IM is already made and is already d100.

>>96168500
You know what, that's on me, the c7d100 isn't even present in marketing materials and it's clearly been nuked from the site. Fuck 'em anyway, and I didn't post a link. Tell your bosses not to fuck up the laundry files, the old edition was already a disaster for all the entertainment value.

>>96168531
>fuck 'em anyway
*for the cheap adaptation of their wfrp game

>>96168500
NTA means Not That Anon, for future reference
'twas I, not he, who posted the link

>>96167730
Gee, what a yawn-inducing "initiative".
Thanks, anon.
Looks like it's not really proprietary dice, just their (Cubicle7) way of categorising systems (d20, d6, d100).

When I hear about "prioprietary dice", what comes to my mind are Genesys system, Fudge's +/0/- dice, or Ubiquity's eight-faced dice that are actually 1d2, 2d2 and 3d2.

>>96169086
The other guy implied whatever the dx was got nuked, so I'm about as in the dark about that as you are

>>96167730
>Built on the bones of 5e

>>96169886
Just like every other shitty GM on the planet

>>96163690
The call for more investigation would be that his finance and network are still used by what would be suspected to be a ring of heretics, later to be revealed as a front for a radical inquisitor. The paintings are here to seed doubt in player's mind. It's actually a good idea to end this section in a cover up to suggest that there is something to hide.
While I agree with your point on local history rather than global, I created the systems where the campaign takes place, it's isolated by the cicatrix malédiction and I'm afraid that player won't really care if the stakes aren't higher.

The call for more investigation would be that his finance and network are still used by what would be suspected to be a ring of heretics, later to be revealed as a front for a radical inquisitor. The paintings are here to seed doubt in player's mind. It's actually a good idea to end this section in a cover up to suggest that there is something to hide.
While I agree with your point on local history rather than global, I created the systems where the campaign takes place, it's isolated by the cicatrix maledictum and I'm afraid that player won't really care if the stakes aren't higher.
I also don't expect my players to be that knowledgeable about the setting.
>>96157765
I like the idea to make the whole thing about sacred art in general and having to collect different kind of them to make the puzzle whole. It makes me think of da vinci code

>>96163690
>>96172138
Woops