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Elf minis tax to shut up the hall monitors.
These are some test minis for 15mm modern elves. Could be a fun version of something like AK-47 republic

And this is mirkwood elves to supplement my current collection. Most likely won't paint them in the "official" scheme since it looks ugly

Trying out what heads fit the Shieldwolf Aravises. The elf from the WGA townsfolk kinda does. Feels short though, but maybe that's just me.
She's here with some humans, whom after the elven conquest live unhappy lives existing only for the sake of elves. Men cannot even wear the color blue, it is sacred, so only women are permitted this. The punishment for breaking this taboo is capital, and a show of force.

I'm doing a thing where elves can't use any metal at all, and I'm trying to decide if I should go with scale armor made of little stone tiles (optionally each inscribed with a protective rune), ot just have them rely on magic and agility.

Thoughts?

>>96137219
Maybe enchanted cloth as armor, and for weapons they can use old weapons like sharpened antler or bone. Also empowered by an older magic.

>>96137188
interesting. I've been considering making some of the dark elves from kingdom under fire using the shieldwolf minis with warhammer dark elf styled shield. Ideally I need some pretty unique elf heads, but as an initial batch there are more generic heads I can print

I guess we have this general back.

>>96137219
>ot just have them rely on magic and agility.
I like this as a concept, but they have to be really skilled in ability and magic as to overmatch people using actual armor and weapons and there has to be a good reason why they don't combine their skill and magic with the best tools to win even harder

>>96137522
both are correct.

>>96138898
Then post both.

>>96137219
Bark armor.

>>96138949

Dishonest faggot.

This is your elf ranger tonight.

>>96140085
wip of my cute redneck elf's party

>>96136780 (OP)
>elf
>comfy
impossible, all elves are trash

Post Maedhros.

>>96140116
>redneck elf

Fun concept but which one is she supposed to be?

>>96140201
2nd one from the left

>>96140182

>>96140365
My beloved.

>>96137188
Hey, other elf kitbasher. I got a sprue of cavalry for my operators, but no instructions since I didn't get the box, and Ive been bogged down trying to figure it out. That's a WGA head on your elf there?

>>96140085
a night with Keri would be nice

>>96140085
cute

>>96140648
Wouldn't be able to put up with her voice honestly.

>>96136780 (OP)
What element(s) or other forces do your elves have an affinity for? There’s a group of elves in my setting that made a pack with a powerful fire elemental to survive, and now they are some of the best fire mages in the setting.

Is Frieren worth watching?

I'm a 40 year old corporatized Millennial former theatre dork who usually prefers 90's and 00's anime, not an autistic Zoomer if that makes a difference.

>>96140630
Yeah, from the villager box. It also has a horned head for some sort of beastwoman.

>>96140870
you'll just have to make sure she uses her mouth for things other than talking

>>96141118
>Is Frieren worth watching for free if you skip all the parts that don't have frieren in it
yes
I want to fuck that elf like you wouldn't believe

>>96141200
Very appealing woman.

>>96141118
First 2/3rds is pretty good with an interesting concept. Unfortunately, story wise, it devolves into shonen-slop for the last 10 episodes of the season.

>>96141652
is this some weird aislop or just bad art?

>>96141674
I guess we have to deal with these types of questions a lot more.

>>96141424

That's kind of how I felt when I first watched it, but after a rewatch I came to appreciate it.

>>96141744
I can appreciate some character moments and worldbuilding. Introducing a boatload of supporting characters, all with their own bespoke powers, and having them compete in a tourney/selection was straight out of the Shonen playbook though. It's not bad, but I feel the show stopped playing to its strengths.

>>96136788
>Modern elves
Interesting. I've been mulling over homebrewing a modern fantasy wargame myself. Did you kitbash these or design them from the ground up yourself? Personally I don't find the AK a very "elf-y" design but to each their own (and of course, I'm not sure what kind of fluff, if any, you're working under).

>>96141674
If it's modern and not drowning in anti-ai watermarks it's very likely AI.

>>96136780 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/6i2mka.jpg

A minor elven noble. She'll get a appropriately fancy shield later.

>>96141898
I kinda feel the same way. It started interesting but then devolved into HunterxHunter by the end. Also, the message that elves are immortal and all other lives seem fleeting to only hit the first 20 times, then it got obnoxious.

>>96136780 (OP)
>always try to get a comission of my elves
>its just gonna be deedlit fanart by the end of it
Cursed to never break away from blonde tunic wearing elf

>>96141674
The literal copy+pasted swords on the right guy's back tell me this is not AI, just a regular human amateur.

Still wip. She has the generic symbol of the wing, representing the old elven knights. The women that led the charge into the conquest of the human lands with white wings on their helms, as "ear extensions".
She's accompanied by her human standard bearer and a manservant whom, not allowed to bear arms, carries her personal belongings and sounds the horn to her orders to the levied human troops.

>>96141118
Pretty worth.

Frieren herself is the best PR elf kind has had in years.

>>96140182
No idea who started this trend of giving him this blade-stump.

>>96140116
I've seen you post your art before and I really love it. Do you have a gallery?

>>96144598
Thank you but I don't post my gallery here. I might make a megafolder just because a lot of people here asked though..

>>96144667
That would be really cool!

>>96137219
They know (with a bit of magic) how to weave fabrics so strong that they can stop blades. Like modern day kevlar etc. So they can wear light but strong armor which does not hinder their uncanny ability to dodge incoming blows. Of course you can't dodge well within line formations (if your elves use them) so their shields should have something more, like those scales or something woven into the cloth.

For weapons... dunno. sharpened stone and bone feels kinda archaic for that kind of technology. But maybe classic obsidian blades (and stone maces for metal armored enemies) and they would have few spare weapons if the obsidian shatters. Or blades made from (dragon)claws as bone would be too soft for armor.

>>96144836
You just described prehispanic mesoamerica. Sans wooden helmets and you all the gold, silver, and copper they used (but not not for war).

Would elves be gamers in a modern setting?

>>96144867
They would be Formula 1 drivers and/or combat pilots

>>96136780 (OP)
>elf
>human but with donkey ears
lmao at least you get fun adventures with Shrek.

>>96144842
Yes, kinda. I still think it's bit better than boring "lol magically sharpened bone which look just like fantasy steel scimitars". It's not you need to have macuahuitl (sic) look-a-likes.

>>96144902
A lot of indigenous American cultures would be a great inspiration honestly.

>>96144899
Simpletons always focus on surface appearance.

>>96144914
lmao cope
they're just shittier humans in personality, traditions, moral and skills.
their women are not even that, they're just the blandest, dumbest coombait.

>>96138620
Elves, like all fey, are sickened/weakened by irin, and it disrupts their magic. That's why their physical arms and armour can't match that of humans. It's also why a guy in iron/steel armour can resist elven magic. It's not foolproof, but it does provide more resistance the more iron covers them.

>>96137188
I've had reasonable luck with titan forge elf heads. Specifically the forest guard elf heads.
I've also used KetaMinies heads, but haven't been super impressed. Very wide selection of hair styles though if you can live with every head having the same facial expressions.
WGAs stuff might be something. I have a few of their stls but haven't tried them yet. Good elf heads for kitbashing is always nice to have

>>96144925
Well, I agree at least that the coombait posted in these threads is bland and dumb.
Now, go, enter a thread about a topic you like.

>>96144926
I'm pretty sure "giving them cold iron" was a rhetorical phrase like "pushing up daisies" or "took an arrow to the knee". Yes apparently took an arrow to the knee means you got married and got down on one knee to propose. Giving the fae cold iron means you just slew them.

>>96144926
>>96144939
Being hit by cold iron was simply a more flowery way of saying that you can hit them with weapons. Which simply wasn't a given for a lot of mythological creatures.
Don't think there was ever a line that mentioned them being particularly weak to it, or that it reduces their powers.
Not to mention that dwarves were elves in the original myths, and of course forged all manners of weapons, armor and other funky items.
Not gonna say that you can't make elves that don't use metal in your systems, for flavor and other thematic reasons. Just gonna autist for autist reasons

>>96144909
So, elven warrior classes with different (nordic) animal motifs, fox, wolf, elk, eagle, mole, and most dangerous of them all, the shrew. Fantasy kevlar cloth armor, mythical scaly beast claw naginatas, magically sharpened and strengthened blades. Ornamental clubs for armoured enemies and taking hostages/sacrifices alive.

Best clubs would be magical tree roots grown around round runestone. Maybe they would make blades too by planting sharp stoneblades into the ground and magical tree sapling over it for it's roots to grow around the blade and forming the handle part. Let's make those naginatas same way, so there would be sacred artisan class for tending "weapon groves".

>>96144926
I like the dynamic, doesn't mean elves are completely left out of using metal either since they can use bronze for example.
Also limits magic power by countering it with a relatively cheap metal

>>96142023
>Did you kitbash these or design them from the ground up yourself?
they're Peter Pig female hardened militia. Of course the issue with this entire project is to find suitable miniatures. Elves aren't too bad but more physically different fantasy creatures would be a challenge to find suitable minis for. That goes for 28mm too, maybe even more so since there's more detail and less space to obfuscate more obvious stand-ins

>Personally I don't find the AK a very "elf-y" design but to each their own (and of course, I'm not sure what kind of fluff, if any, you're working under)
My thought was to make them be mercenaries hence why they're different elf types. Their weapons and equipment would be locally sourced as is usually done in third world conflicts

>>96144449
>>96142437
where did you source that head from?

>Good elves are patriarchal.
>Savage hippie elves are egalitarian.
>Evil elves are matriarchal(only women can do sorcery, women run the Khaine cult, king's mom is power behind the throne.

What did WHFB mean by this?

>>96145773
>>Good elves are patriarchal
Be careful, anon, you will have a bunch of coombrains screech at you for suggesting this.

>>96137219
Depends on what are they usually fighting, their combat doctrine and how common and powerful their magic is.
You don't want to have worse defenses than whoever you're fighting, particularly if you're an elf, who typically have low population and slow reproduction, so they should be even more averse to loses.

Going unarmored is fine in a duel, but agility doesn't help much in a mass battle or a siege. You won't have the space to dodge in a close formation, and if your formation is loose, you risk being overwhelmed by massed infantry or a cavalry charge. You'll want big shield to protect yourself from arrows or other projectiles, but that further limits your agility.

Mounted archers can get away with less or no armor if they can avoid melee, but they are still vulnerable to being shot back. Difficult terrain... mountains, jungles, deep woods... can be used for ambushes and limits the effectiveness of cavalry or large formations, so that may help.

Unless every elf soldier can use magic to match the protection of armored enemies, you'll want at least something, unless magic makes armor irrelevant. If you have enough mages serving as an artillery, massed formations and armor may not matter against volley of fireballs.

Layered or padded cloth or leather may be perfectly adequate protection for rank and file. Wood, bark, rattan, bone, maybe carapaces, shells and other parts of some fantasy monsters may also be used for armor. Stone is too heavy and fragile for armor, magic may change that. Ceramic tiles could be used as lighter alternative if you can make them durable enough. Magic to repel metal could be funny against non-elven opponents. Of course, if you're fighting other elves or someone with similar level of armor, it shouldn't matter.

>>96145773
Druchii being matriarchal is still completely questionable.

What's the quintessential Elven melee weapon?

>>96147869
Sword.
Especially this type of curved sword, with a long, curved handle and little hand protection.

>>96145773
>Evil elves are matriarchal
Drow set the standard for dark elf femdom, Warhammer just followed suit.

>>96145372
It's a spare Raging Heroes head from their dark elf crossbow women set.

>>96145773
that's just copying from d&d
even then, drows are copied from Moorcock's novels, where the Melniboneans were patriarchal.

>>96147869
swords. Elves love all kind of swords, but they especially appreciate the reach and penetration of a big two-handed sword

>>96147869
I imagine it changes from region and culture, with some elves preferring the versatile nature of the throwing spear and some loving the crunch of a mace.

>>96145847
this is shockingly good art and anatomy for patreon hooker humor
literally the only one I've seen who can actually draw

>>96147869
Enchanted or Cursed Swords made with unknown materials to Mankind. Then spears or axes. I think halberd elves are also fine.

>>96148170
Thanks, nice to see how they actually look instead of the renders on their website

>>96147869
The signature melee weapon of my "elves" are rapiers that are essentially made out a thin thread of animated fibers that cut trough stuff by both flattening the edge of the blade into an edge that is just few fibers thin, as well as by hardening and heating themselves up. Because the fibers can change their positioning and also their lenght (as they spool out of the handle of the weapon) these blades can also change shape and even extend a bit, being able to work like a whip, bend and wrap the defences of a foe and even unfurl and shred trough soft tissues etc once they manage to penetrate a target.

The fibers these swords use are also drawn from the manes of their symbiotic suits of armor as shown in this picture.

I see that the bumptranny is still spamming the board nonstop

>>96148989
I don't think I've ever seen elves using greataxes

>>96149660
There is a specific unit in warhammer fantasy for that.

>>96149734
What does warhammer not have?

>>96149820
good wood elf units

Thoughts on brown elves?

>>96151227
Positive ones.

>>96151274
Thoughts on brown elves with purple hair so long and curly it obscures her face?

>>96151331
Not a fan of facial covering, the eyes are a very key factor in design.

>>96140156
except for our originals, pirotess and deedlit

>>96149660
Oathmark heavy elf infantry have greataxes in the kit.

>>96148635
Back to your slop thread, AI faggot.

>>96147869
Dagger because they're evil.

>>96151331
I prefer black, white or blonde hair for brown elves

>>96151902
If they're so bad why do they make me feel good?

>>96144950
>Don't think there was ever a line that mentioned them being particularly weak to it, or that it reduces their powers.

That is mostly due to Victorian folklorists taking indirect metaphoric language as facts and then trying to justify it.

>>96149820
Axe-wielding elves driving chariots drawn by giant lions, fighting other elves riding dinosaurs.
Oh, wait.

I'm playing in a LOTR-based campaign as a character from Angmar. I decided to recycle Amarthiel (a corrupted elf who used to belong to the brotherhood of ring-makers and ended up serving Angmar) from LOTRO to my own ends. I have made her a formidable and cold spy master who doesn't need much violence to achieve her goals. While I began as a calculating and ice-cold witch, I'm adding little echoes of her pre-fall nature into her interaction with other characters that can be read as subtle manipulation or glimpses of what she was once (the way she touches, looks at, and treats a particular subordinate). My intention is to make it ambiguous for now, perhaps with her denying it all as a mere manipulation after centuries of darkness, betrayal, and pain. I have to be careful to not weaken her. I'm not sure if what she feels should be more like master-student, mother-adoptive daughter, or give it a romantic subtext under layers of self-denial and manipulation.

>>96152190
>the elves, the one race explicitly told to us to be all against The Enemy?
>what if we made one that was a servant of His

>>96152276

I mean, orcs are technically elves. In at least one of their origins and from what we are told, they rings can corrupt them.

>>96152285
And orcs aren't stated to all be evil.
Same with trolls and dragons. And even fucking werewolves.

>>96152276
Eh, the Silmarillion showed that elves could fall to evil. It's just extremely rare.
It can reek of OC donut steel if evil elves show up outside of that book, so it should be used carefully.
>>96152285
>I mean, orcs are technically elves
I hate Christopher for this one.

>>96152293
Orcs can't really come from anything other than elves, as they're capable of breeding with men. Meaning that they too are children of Illuvatar, unlike say dwarves whom were children of Aule given life by the one.
However, given the malice and evil spirits of Utumno, they really can't be counted as elves anymore and likely not since they had truly become orcs in the depths of time.
However maybe it's for the best there's no actual concrete answer for the origin of the orcs, and it can be a forgotten horror of Udun man was never meant to understand.

>As Christopher Tolkien comments, this new origin includes the explicit idea that Morgoth could not make anything with life after his rebellion.[11] This was the text Christopher used for his edition of The Silmarillion (chapter 3), although while revising the Annals, his father wrote a note in the margin: "Alter this. Orcs are not Elvish".[12]

>>96152327

He changed opinion throughout his life. Orcs have multiple potential origins from Melkor creating them from nothing, corrupted animals, spirits/Maia, corrupted elves, corrupted men. He couldn't figure it out because as a Catholic, a 100% evil race was an anathema for him.

>>96152337
I know, this is why I dislike putting that specific origin into the Silmarillion.

imagine if the lotr orcs had been hot dark elves instead.

>>96152377
There was a single dark elf, Eol. And the Moriquiendi which were dark elves because they never saw the light of the two trees. But still weren't evil since sexy evil elf waifus didn't really cross the mind of Tolkien.

>hurf de durf Tolkien called some elves "dark", so they are exactly the same as drow, druchii and dunmer
Am I getting this right?

>>96152393
Just need to invent a time machine and show him a picture of drow while making a gigantic soiface

>>96152433
I'm sure that would go over well and not cause an incident.

Why do elves hate functional hand guards on their swords?

>>96141118
It's decent. It still suffers from modern trashy tropes, like 16 year old warriors can literally cleave mountains in half, so I'm not sure why people in their world bother building walls.

>>96152598
Depends on the sword.
Interesting question, though, for why many cultures in the real world didn't really bother much with handguards.
It's also a very euro-centric view to dismiss swords automatically due to a lack of hand protection.

>>96152611
Elves are European. They speak with a Br*tish accent

>>96152337
This has some very... let's call it 'interesting' implications about Gygax and his Mormon background.

>>96152624
>Elves are European
The original myths? Yes, sure.
That shouldn't bother one from trying take varied inspirations for their elves.

>>96152624
No, elves sound like Finns.

Elves would certainly kill the bumptranny

>>96152316
>Orcs can't really come from anything other than elves, as they're capable of breeding with men.
The rather obvious second answer is "men".

>>96141356

>>96152976
It would depend on the type.

Wood Elves sound like Basques.
Northern Elves sound like Finns.
High Elves sound like Pre-Carolingian Gauls.

The Old Elves who came to the Continent from Atlantis in antideluvian times sound like the Engineer language that Michael Fassbender learned to speak to the Engineer in Promethius (Proto-Indo-European).

>>96152285
>orcs are technically elves
They literally aren't. They're a perversion from Morgoth in the best case scenario. And in LoTR is mentioned that Saruman was making his own experiments to create half-orcs using Men. In all cases these things stopped being their origin long ago.
>>96152377
LoTR has Dark Elves, and they're quite cool on their own. They just aren't shitty copies of the same unimaginative idea taken from D&Dslop, Derphammer and Moorcuck. And thanks God, we have enough hacks copying shitty ideas like these already.

>>96152087
The hideous proportions stuff is so disturbing. People with this fetish should be blinded with knives desu.

>>96153850
It's even worse when they apply it to elves.

>>96153913
It is! It is worse!

>>96153850
>People with this fetish should be blinded with knives desu.
I have a theory that only virgins like it

>>96142437
she looks cute

>>96153977
I'm a virgin and even I find it off-putting.
Realistic+ proportions is where it's at lads.

>>96152598
I don't know why people do this, I think this is a mostly post-Peter Jackson LoTR thing since that movie showed the elves using their weird sabre/falchion type swords with little to no hand protection

The idea that they're an extremely ancient race that doesn't like to change would be one explanation since it applies in a lot of settings and makes sense, considering many early swords from the bronze and iron age had little or no hand protection.

>>96154189
The inspiration is likely the Jackson movies, but justifying it with "elves dumb and don't innovate" is equally dumb. Especially since adding a handguard is not some secret super tech that only the Europeans figured out. While traditions and custom should play a role, there should also be practical considerations for why they never bothered with them to begin with, that also apply to the current time of whatever setting.
Properly armored hands and arms, a fighting style that doesn't really extend the weapon hand much and doesn't really care about parrying and binding enemy blades, or combining them with shields. Being civilian weapons created for easy wear first and foremost, and being secondary weapons worn while the elf uses a bow, a spear (plus shield) or something else primarily. Also, not just convenience of wear, but it makes them quicker and easier to draw. It's not like a handguard is always a benefit with no drawbacks that everyone should have done if they weren't dumb dummies.

>>96153346
Men awoke with the sun.
Orcs appeared before the trees were even up.

On the topic of fat elves....I lost the topic

>>96154326
All the fat goes to the ears.

>>96154457
Lol.

What about the thighs?

>>96154471
Depends on the system.

>>96153977
There's something weird, almost jungian about the whole thing, it feels like a modern equivalent of those eerie fertility venus statues.

I suspect it's some sort of short-circuit in the brain.

>>96154636
>a modern equivalent of those eerie fertility venus statues.
maybe a wank-addicted virgin made those too

>>96152598
It ruins the aesthetics, and elves care about aesthetics like the faggots they are.
If they're all that civilized and stay out of most conflicts, would it be so crazy to imagine that they regard their weapon as more of a practical fashion accessory than a tool of war?

>>96154526
Homebrew. I like my wood elves thicc.

>I like my elves to not look like elves

>>96155166
>I want my elves to only look like ascended human ancestors

>>96155173
No idea what you are talking about.

>>96152598
They don't, it's just a lingering artefact of Wētā Workshop's LotR props.

>>96154275
They are almost certainly inspired by shaskas, which were cavalry swords from the caucuses that also very notably had no guards. Lots of swords didn't really have extensive guards, particularly those which were intended for use with shields. The Gladius, the primary weapon of the Roman army, had no guard. The Romans were definitely on the list of most bellicose societies to ever exist, so they would've had ample opportunities to test it all out.

I'd guess it's just a result of how they think about design, or maybe the shields they use or the method of war.

Coom

>>96155104
>Elves care about aesthetics
Oh yes, they do.

>>96155204
Elves. Whom in myth humans could pass at, same with dwarves, meaning your ayy is more removed from the idea of an elf than an anime slut.

>>96155247
Hey if he wore a hat or something and I couldn't see his ears he'd remind me a but of my Uncle Red. Premodern people wore caps all the damn time.

>>96155247
>Whom in myth
Ah, then have fun figuring out what mythological correct elves were for your mythologically correct myth game.
Scholars are still debating.
Your post just made it sound like you would have a problem with elves looking like humans.

this is a nice elf.

>>96155298
>um actually they vary too much in myth so it doesn't count so my inhuman elves are good actually
Retard.

>>96155310
This is however not a nice elf. It gets kinda weird when a culture that gives pointy ears to many things like say demons also tries to do elves, like whats the difference at that point?

>>96155322
Nobody said that, have fun arguing with the voices in your head.

>>96155343
I can only recount Helck where that was somewhat of an issue. Elves and demons have completely different myths, origin stories, narrative and thematic functions, abilities, lifespans, cultures, relations with other races and more.
Only retards reduce "elf" entirely to the pointy ears.

What's the best take on dark elves in any setting?

>>96155453
Dunmer.

>>96155453
Classic drow. None of this purple skin shit.

>>96155355
Disingenuous.

>>96154275
>but justifying it with "elves dumb and don't innovate" is equally dumb
It isn't necessarily stupidity, a handguard isn't strictly necessary as you say with proper armor and fighting technique (or if the sword is intended to be used alongside a large shield)

Also, the "traditional" elven blades being more Jackson-esque in appearance and more refined and modern Elven blades with swept or basket hilts would also make sense, or at least could be explained pretty easily in-setting.

>>96155495
The violet skin isn't inherently bad, depending on context.

>>96152032
White hair is best for contrast on dark skin.

>>96155495
I liek purple skin amazon elfs.

>>96155969
I'm fine with purple elves, I just despise Drow being made purple away from the pitch black they always were.

Soon (by the end of the next month)

>>96155453
It's Dunmer. They manage simultaneously to be cool as fuck, "evil" in a realistic sort of way (their culture is organically super fucked up) and you can't possibly mistake them for anything else. They're like Drow if they actually committed to the bit.

Even them being promiscuous fucktards is still there, but instead of hogging the spotlight this is the part of them that people forget because they have so much more going on.

>>96155949
I agree, but I think blonde hair does a pretty good job as well and maintains an exotic look

>>96155495
based and objectively right

>>96156046
Blonde is fine too.

>>96156005
But there was that one time Drow were officially brown.
Likely just a miscommunication with the cover artist and not enough time before publication to fix it.
Still, it was a great module. I'd love to play it again.

>>96156005
>Always
Not so much, kiddo.

>>96156226
>chad history knower
>>96156228
>the virgin shit stirrer

Drooping ears are a sign of advanced age.

>>96155494
>Dunmer
What about them makes you say that?

>>96156339
>'We must love each other briefly,' Vivec said, 'if at all. I am needed to counsel the Hortator in more important matters because the Dwemeri high priests stir up trouble. You may have my head for an hour.'
>Vivec lay with Molag Bal for eighty days and eight, though headless. In that time, the Prince placed the warrior-poet's feet back and filled them with the blood of Daedra. In this way Vivec's giant-form remained forever harmless to good earth. The Pomegranate Banquet brought many spirits back from the dead so that the sons and daughters of the union had much to eat besides fruit.
>The holy one returned at last, Vehk, golden with wisdom. His head found its body had been tenderly used. He mentioned this to Molag Bal, who told him that he should thank the Barons of Move Like This, 'For I have yet to learn how to refine my rapture. My love is accidentally shaped like a spear.'
>So Vivec, who had a grain of Ayem's mercy, set about to teach Molag Bal in the ways of belly-magic. They took their spears out and compared them. Vivec bit new words onto the King of Rape's so that it might give more than ruin to the uninitiated. This has since become a forbidden ritual, though people still practice it in secret.
>But Vivec made of his spear a more terrible thing, from a secret he had bitten off from the King of Rape. And so he sent Molag Bal tumbling into the crack of the biters and swore forever that he would not deem the King beautiful ever again.
>Vivec wept as he slew all those around him with his terrible new spear. He named it MUATRA, which is Milk Taker, and even the Chimeri mystics knew his fury. Anyone struck by Vivec at this time turned barren and withered into bone shapes. The path of bones became a sentence for the stars to read, and the heavens have never known children since. Vivec hunted down the biters one by one, and all their progeny, and he killed them all by means of the Nine Apertures, and the wise still hide theirs from Muatra.

>>96156695
Asrai in a foreign land.

>>96156036
>Even them being promiscuous fucktards is still there
It isn't. You will have a hard time finding promiscuous dark elves in the actual game that features their homeland. It's an in-universe joke and prejudice at best.

>>96156339
Great lore, a fully realized fictional race that is alien and unique, but also believable in a way that they could actually exist somewhere. And yeah, what >>96156036 said.

I don't like Dunmer

>>96157405
Why not?

>>96151334
Hmmm.
Brown Elves with long purple hair that occasionally gives a glimpse into their eyes?

>>96157600
basically just purple skinned jews that are always being held up as the gold standard for lore when its bits and pieces of religion and mythology taken from more esoteric sources and regurgitated over and over again while the lore of every other race is a quarter of the bloated shit that is Dunmer lore

>>96156210
>sloppa
No.

>>96158575
Yes.
Now proceed with your melty.

>>96158895
Fug me meant to quote >>96158872
Getting all pissy over a nearly 7 hour old post.

>>96141118
>Is Frieren worth watching?
It starts out mildly interesting but very quickly drops all that interesting stuff for generic shonen bullshit. There's an exam arc. Not an episode. Not an encounter. AN ENTIRE ARC. It takes up almost HALF the anime. If you like classic fantasy then there's NOTHING appealing here.

>>96158895
>double nigga sloppa
Nope2

>>96156210
it sure is

>>96157979
There is pretty much no actual criticism in that post.
>jews
That's imperials.

>>96157979
this
>this take on dark elves is HECKING AWESOME because get this they're RACIST and live in MUDHUTS but wait they also got BASIC ASS MYSTISM and "deep" lore you'd find in the average 1970's fantasy paperback. Oh my Kirkbride it's so FOREIGN and EXOTIC! I FRICKING LOVE bethesda jank with the color palette of a used ash tray!

Fantasy nerd version of roasties that travel to India to "find themselves" and think it makes them spiritual

>>96159544
You have been found to be stupid.

>OMG THAT GUY DID NOT MATERIALIZE HIS IDEAS OUT OF COMPLETE NOTHINGNESS?!

Elfa the dark elf

Lets keep the AI in the AI threads.

>>96159900
Love this guy's art.

>>96159463
Didn't say it was reasonable, but dunmer are just purple skinned jews with this brownoid mysticism

>>96160155
What are your favorite takes on dark elves?

>>96160170
Any that aren't Dunmer or Drow

>>96160197
Very cool, honest answer and great contribution to this thread.

>>96160197
Answering "what is your favorite x" with "not this" should be a felony.

She could go on a 50mm square to fit into a unit, but I think she'll look better on a 40mm round as a commander type figure.

>>96159463
Nah, Veloth and the Chimer are pretty clearly inspired by Moses and the jewish Exodus. There's the prophecied Nerevarine as the messiah. You have the Dunmer diaspora after the Red Mountain exploded. There definitely are similarities.

>>96160350
definitely looks like a leader/hero figure with that scenic base. Of course in same rank and flank games those characters should be in units and have square bases, but why would you play rank and flank games in 28mm to begin with?

>>96160585
I like to joke about Imperials being the only TES races with Mercantilism as a racial skill and spreading multiculturalism, as well as undermining local cultures and economies for their own purpose
Nobody is denying the inspiration for Veloths search for a spiritual homeland in the dunmers lore. They have a lot more going on, though. The secret ingredient for dunmer being so great is taking varied inspirations and mixing them together that the end result feels genuine.

>>96160752
you don't see many elf monks

>>96155453
Korean

>>96160901
based

>>96140085
pure sex

>>96147869
spear because spears are superior

I am planning to make a DND 3E Elven Wizard, but I have no clear thought in my head on how to approach playing someone who has been around for few hundred years, how do you approach playing a character to make him seem otherwordly to a human? I don't want to make him seem like some egdy misunderstood misanthrope in comparison to an average person.

How do you guys roleplay your elves?

>>96156995
It's a b it clearer in The Real Berenziah, the ES games themselves are just very stingy about what's depicted in their lore, their religion and mythology is nonstop fucking.

>>96157979
>>96159544
They're gray. You've confused your stereotypes while samefagging to attempt to construct a false consensus that is wrong.

>>96161520
>how do you approach playing a character to make him seem otherworldly to a human?
>I don't want to make him seem like some egdy misunderstood misanthrope in comparison to an average person.
Just pull a Frieren and only care about your timeless hobby, be it magic grimoires, your cool rock collection, or anything else.
Bitches grow old and die. Societies change. Civilizations rise and fall. Shit happens.
But your hobby? It stays. And so it's the only thing you have any real attachment to.
To the point where you don't really know how to talk to mortals anymore, or whether or not you should.
tl;dr you have a bad case of Asperger's.

>>96161537
>It's a b it clearer in The Real Berenziah
The book says they aren't more promiscuous than usual. You fuckers don't read.

>>96161520
A couple of thoughts
>don't make him a couple of hundred years old
Unless that edition or your GM enforces him to be this old. If you have trouble with portraying such an elf, then play a relatively young elf. Elfen culture and elfen psychology should still affect them, even at a young age.
>time horizon
Always consider the long term effects of your and your party's action. Regardless of your age. I don't care about the setting and lore, a being with such a natural long lifespan should naturally consider the long term effects of their actions. Think about big pictures.
>keep your distance
I won't tell you to play an arrogant, aloof asshole. But the distance to the other races lifespan should make you naturally more aware of the differences. Maybe try to not get too attached to the others AT FIRST. If your elf warms up to the others and swears friendship, it should matter. It could make for a great arc. Maybe don't take human laws, institutions and customs too seriously.
>don't overthink it
Just play a character that you find fun and are comfortable with. You aren't writing a novel, nor are you expected to be a professional actor.

>>96161537
Symmachus says it's individual like with humans, and "all elves are promiscuous" is bullshit. Barenziah was just a slut using the stereotype as an excuse for her thottery.

>>96161411
Wardancer should've been one of her classes.

>>96161548
>everyone that doesn't like the grey indians in my favorite bethslop is the same person!

Now that I see she has a stag symbol on her shield, making her a drow/dark elf feels rather silly.
Too late now.

>>96164038
her family could have a history tied to a forest or other location or event tied to a stag or stag symbol. Could be as simple as having defeated a powerful druid or wood elf and incorporating the victory into their coat of arms. Or dark elves just recognize the stag as a symbol of some quality they admire

what's the correct way to raise the children you'll have with your dark elf wife after you've acquired her through rigorous adventuring?

>>96164184
I think it being a spoil of war from a vanquished enemy champion is fitting.

>>96155244

What's the best way to sow an elven-dwarf war?

>>96167462
Elf Yakub and her followers forcibly try to create Dwarf males to replace the human ones the Dwarfs currently are content with. The dwarfs don't like this, of course. They are free women of free countries, and would not bow before the insanity of an elf.

>her

>>96140201
What is this from?

>>96152032
Don’t post pictures of my elf wife.
I wish the artist still drew picture of this particular elf.

>>96148824
I've no idea who's the author and where it's originally from

>>96148824
>this is shockingly good art and anatomy for patreon hooker humor
No it's not.

>>96164267
>only learn the human language
>worship Selune and the Triad
>train them to become fighters like their father

>>96161430
>Simplest weapon to make
>Nobody stopped there and instead designed and used inferior weapons for ten thousand years

Obviously nobody historically agrees that spears were superior, or even good. The Romans spent 10x as much on each guy's armament just to give them all swords as their primary weapons. Why would they do this if spears were superior?

>>96161616
The book says it's a stereotype that isn't really true. In my experience 95% of the time someone feels the need to state that a stereotype isn't true, it's true.

A simple readthrough of the Sermons of Vivec suggests that in fact, it is true.

>>96169942
The sword being their primary weapon is highly dubious. They started as spearmen, ended up being spearmen, and even when they used their swords for melee, that melee followed after throwing the pilum.

>>96169981
Well then, where are these examples that prove these stereotypes true? We have Mirrowind, a game that feature dunmer as the natives, and they aren't the ones dancing in the House of Earthly Delights, for instance.

>>96140085
>ults you in the back
>eats the heal you need to get back from white

>Brown skin
>Knife Ears
>Long mauve/purple hair
>Deep blue eyes
>Deep voice
I feel like I've imagined this combination before...

I am exhausted by the over exposure of Kerillian

How would elf warriors deal with hundreds of years of stress and exhaustion from combat and warfare?

>>96171510
It probably wouldn't be hundreds of years of constant warfare, just like regular human soldiers would spend most time marching, camping, doing boring stuff.
But it would still probably take a toll. They maybe take some extended breaks from the fronts, maybe return to teach how to fight after a certain amount of campaigns. You probably don't get many elves that are full-time warrior or elfen soldiers that do this profession all their long lives. Instead, it's a means to get some wealth and prestige and then advance to some other position.
Fear those elves that are doing this full-time and survive into old age.

Elves are a stupid concept
>humans but they live longer and they make me coom
At least do something magical with them.

There is also the alternative that elves just love fighting and warfare. Hippie faggot elf memes aside, a lot of settings have elves that are genuinely martial and waged massive wars. Even dumb D&D elves start proficient with swords and bows, and not because they think it's a fancy hobby.
Traumata and injuries would still take a toll, but being genuinely into the activity helps alleviating some stress and exhaustion.

>>96171572
It's a good thing then that elves are magical and also have a long lifespan, entirely different origin stories, other themes and narrative functions than humans, and the superficial appearance is ultimately just superficial.
Complain about dwarves, halflings and orcs (just green humans and barbarians).

>>96171596
No they dont, they are just humans with pointy ears who live longer, thats all there is to them.
>Complain about dwarves, halflings and orcs
They are stupid too

>>96171572
yes, they're trash as a fantasy race honestly
but
>make me coom
that's a reason to visit these threads

>>96171596
>elves are magical
and still end up less magical than many humans, especially as elves are too retarded to use magic properly
>entirely different origin stories, other themes and narrative functions than humans
and you can do the same thing with different human subgroups
but yeah, brown elf girls with white hair are hot

>>96171771
>>96171680
You know elves only from porn and anime.
Have fun bumping the thread until bump-limit so that OP can make the next one.
You are probably the OP.

>>96169942
>>96169942
every single sword fighter agrees the spear is superior
easier to learn, outranges, outskills at higher level and so on.
good against cavalry, keeping distance and so on.
historically?
everyone used spears. spear walls, pikes (odd spears)
bunch of dudes with a shield? spears
peasants? give them spears they will manage
cavalry? give them spears for more range from the horse and a better charge
>but the roooomans
used mostly spears
>but their small little swords
only for very close combat
enemy is annoying? also try throwing spears, works too

>>96171771
What a non-argument. You could put humans under mountains and make them crafty to replace dwarves; you could place them on the outskirts of society and have them raid and pillage to replace orcs. You can even put humans in Heaven and Hell to replace angels and demons. So what?

How much exp for an elf to become a twelf?