You Can't Beat Le Coq Edition

>What is this?
/TG/ DEVELOPED A GAME
IT IS PLAYABLE. IT HAS BEEN PLAYED.
EXPEDITION is a ~1880s era, Jules Verne-inspired retro-futurist, underground blood soaked adventurescape.
It is a Skirmish wargame. Two players with their own expeditions, on a hexgrid map, explore & fight each other for victory and profit.

3 versions of the rules exist, 2 of which have been playtested. The main one is 2e, to be found :
>https://www.mediafire.com/folder/us7vnek39dc6k/AgarthaRules
as with maps, tokens and lore resources.

>TL;DR Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LxdaGoBlJRTMuziMDupG5TeeFwNDnsIW2pfaRAcFDgA
>Main Lore Doc, including links to anon-written short stories and additional lore in "Recommended..." section
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bRrxdD1BMLmcMDFeszwqg2Rcjrt8DDo7tjAxoOB6KQ8
>3e Rules Doc (READY FOR MORE PLAYTESTS)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14ZpHhEyUbjt-SCx2xuAd0lyh7Rs4J7rK5kHkljqykhk/
>Unit Spreadsheet - Currently outdated, requires an update
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rcleQtrT4Q0INiBW50-kq2ZXWJ-cjLOeVTLTJg_oX5E
>Unit Design Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1n0X89OdMPXJKQGm6kYcOABjhjE4NZER1fvmpDmDX1JA
Wiki
>https://eadsttcoteg.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
Kaiser Anon's audiodrama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwfxQxrHe4M [Embed] [Embed]
(Many more episodes after, can't post them all, but check them!)

>What can I do?
Shitpost, meme, get comfy. Read over the docs to settle in.
Familiarize yourself with rules and ask for an intro game or participate in playtests. If you are interested in designing a faction for a wargame, this is the place.
Contribute if you have ideas. Give feedback on contributions if you don't.

>TQ: Anyone wants to do short write ups on the naval forces we didn't do last thread? Austria,Portugal, Spain, Japan, Italy and the Ottomans are left open at the moment.

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Also, remember to archive.

>TQ
I do want to do something about submarines. They're supposedly more common, but given the limits of the period they're going to be quite different from what we generally understand submarines to be like. More guns/Rams and less torpedoes. Unless you live in Fiume, in which case Whitehead torpedoes for all!

>>96146952
Thank you!
Batrep time
> Reports of new airships designs in the 4th have been interpreted by Atlantean intelligence has further signs of Sky-Empire encroachment. Hoping to quell these, or at least redirect them toward more useful targets, a diplomatic corp headed by Lady K (i.e. a bunch of spies) heads from the Atlantean colonies toward the western boarder of Unterweltheim.
The budding German settlement is rapidly growing, and the Atlantean dispatch arrives upon grass fields interspersed by windmills, an idyllic sight completely out of place in the hellscape of the 4th.
> The usual reaction of Atlantean whenever anything remotely good happens is to throw a feast, Lady K is no exception. Without any opposition, the first turn is spent Celebrating the Ephebos, loading him up with 12(!) AP.

>>96148973
> A monstrous airship flies in from the west, using its superior engines to fly halfway up the map than back.
> Horrified by the display of germanic engineering, Lady K orders her sharpshooter to open up on it, most shots missing, those that hits do not do much.
> Before the Zep falls back, the Luftkommandos inside open up on the advancing ancient riflemen and one of the Promethean, managing to kill the sharpshooter and severely wound the Promethean before I move the Hierophant back into position to cancel some wounds.
> The Socialites, having little else purpose after throwing a party for the Ephebos, scatter around, hoping to be a distraction and grab some land.

>>96149049
> The Oberleutnant realizes that unless he can pick up the pace in removing the Atlanteans, he won't have any choice but to order his troops to abseil to avoid having to give the ground (and the precious windmills, upon which many mouths in Unterweltheim depends). The Zep swings back to the south-east corner of the map, and the officer gives order to his men to open up on the relief women gathering around the windmill below. Begrudgingly, the luftkommandos agrees, and wipe out the group of girls.
> With little else to do, the riflemen shoots and reloads, scoring a few more hits on the balloon. Still nowhere near enough to threaten it. The Hierophant heals the Promethean, which then advances unto its objective along with the Ephebos in order to discourage a landing.

>>96149129
> The Oberleutnant has no choice but to set up an abseil at this point, and the zeppelin once again crosses the map to the other side.
> Unfortunately for him, a Promethean is hanging in wait, and as soon as the shadow of the giant balloon ship covers him, he starts spewing gouts of greek fire in the air. The 2 attacks from the flamer weapon suffice in destroying the Zep's Balloon location and forces a landing. It also does a few grazes to the models inside, nothing terrible, but at this point I'll take anything.
> The Promethean does not survive long enough to celebrate his good work, but with the ship grounded, the Armourclad that was watching the middle Windmill can charge in, and with a swing of his Romphaia deals a grievous to one Luftkommando.
> He is followed by the Ephebos, who launches haflway across the map to charge in at the newly wounded soldier, puts him down, then jumps unto the airship's pod and massacres the Oberleutnant.

>>96149232
> The Krupp Engineers hurry themselves at patching up the rapidly burning balloon, and decide its good enough to fly. The airship gains altitude again, with the Ephebos still inside. The Kommandos corner the young warrior and manage to turn him into a pincushion with their bayonets, then turn around at the Armourclad on the ground, and with enough shots, kill the orichalcum-barded knight.
> One Luftkommando (dude drew the short straw) abseils to watch over the windmill and make sure the ancient warriors do not come back to it.
> Finally, my sharpshooters manage to do something of worth and puts down one Kommandos. This is only for good measure, however, as there is not much left for me to do in order to deny him the victory.
End of game results
> Germany 88 (I could deny him the last 10 Silver with the Hierophant)
> Atlantis 58 + 20 for the Windmills
Victory to Germany!

Would anyone mind if I stuck the original 3 charts up on the wiki? (On a dedicated page)

There's a lot of setting in-jokes and tidbits which can't be easily translated into normal lore, so having the charts as an all-in-one introduction to that side is good. There would be a disclaimer stuck up somewhere that not all chart information is up-to-date.

>>96149668
Yeah, that'd be fine. I need to contribute to the wiki myself, just need to figure out formatting and how to upload images.

>Existentialist Veteran (16 Silver)
Soldier, Elite*
AP: 2
Movement: 3
Accuracy: 7
Strength: 6
Discipline: 6
Labour: 5
Evasion: 4
Awareness: 3

>Armour:
4 in Head
0 in Rest

>Health:
2 Box

>General Abilities:


>Special Abilities:
-Knight of the Field:
On recruitment, select two of the following abilities for all Existentialist Veteran units. This unit also inherits any selected abilities from the Apologetic Soldier Unit. Two Existentialist Veteran units only count as one Elite unit for the purposes of listbuilding.

>Combat Engineer:
This unit gains the engineer keyword. It may downgrade a successful construction action to double the amount of buildings constructed. (For example, 1 critical success to construct a barricade could be split into 2 level 2 barricades, or 4 level 1 barricades.)

>Sniper:
This model gains the “Headshot!” ability on all ranged attacks, and ignores any long range modifiers. An adjacent model with “Headshot!” may spend AP to spot, raising this unit’s next attack’s Accuracy by 1 for each AP spent. Models killed with “Headshot!” at maximum possible range deal double their normal dread value.

>Non-Commissioned Officer:
This unit may rally, but the AP cost is doubled.

>Cavalryman:
This unit may equip Motorrad units, gaining Neukraft if it does so. If mounted, this unit may resolve a free movement or charge action once per turn when it would be hit by an explosion (before damage is dealt).

>Shock Trooper:
This unit gains 5 armour on its body and head locations and may voluntarily enter and exit frenzy, at the cost of 1 Alcohol (spiked with a little something extra) to enter, and 3 AP to exit.

>Equipment:
Optional: Horse, Gewehr M84/88, Rations, Shovel/Pick, Material, Colt1860, Gas Mask (2 Silver?), Bayonet, S&WSchofield, Dynamite, alcohol, saber, More? (Bikes?)

>Recruitment:
Existentialist Core

>>96151505
>COMMENTARY:
Need more equipment. This one is rougher than the previous, still draft-adjacent. It’s even missing fun rule names!

I like the shock trooper, cavalry, and engineer rules. Sniper and NCO could maybe use a touchup. Keep in mind that some of these rules are meant to play nice with the Apologetic soldier, which is why Shock troopers don't get any specific charge buff, for example.
While the Apologetic soldier unit is synthesizing rules from many different books to represent how the Existentialists blend military training, the Veteran is using unique techniques to show how they’re progressing warfare into something new and more terrible still.

>>96149668
Not at all.
>>96151512
Sorry about the lack of feedback on these, I'll take a bit of time tomorrow to work on it, I did start a couple of days ago.
> picrel
Very random, but this is a mindworm that's been digging its way in my head for a while. Its not a "new game", at this point its essentially just a reskin of Netrunner, but whatever. If I put more time into it it would probably end up deviating a bit more from the original game.
I would also not use these templates or icons, those are just the most convenient ones on the application I used.

>>96151898
Now we just need a short-lived animated series and a comic and we'll have covered all the spinoff media wargames normally get

>>96152909
Hardcover novel soon.
Audio-drama conclusion soon.
Animation pending this Canadian fellow's release of the storyboards. Soon.

SOON.

>>96156996
You scare me more than the Deluge ever could, in a good way.
Have a prototype walker.

>>96156996
That looks great, anon. Great job.

>>96156996
Fixed the edit on the lower part of the book's spine.

>>96156996
Awesome. You got the full pdf? I don't think it's linked in the main doc.

>>96157373
I do, but PDF posting is still restricted after the latest site-wide debacle. I'll put a link in the mainlore doc under the recommended reading. Had to be reformatted to send to the printers, so it's grown to 500 pages. It includes some of the 'shops and other artwork that got submitted during the course of development.

>>96157453
Can it be posted on the wiki? Does Mirahaze have an option for PDF viewing?

>>96157677
It lets you host it. The story is already up on the wiki.

>>96152909
Oh, we need to at least license an RPG line to a third party, have them make an absolute gem of a series of game, and then pull the plug on it only to release a far inferior version in-house.
Also, we need to find some accounting software design firm and give them a few millions in KS money for a computer game that will never see the light of day.
>>96156996
This is insane.
> picrel
Well, I guess more than just a tiny mindworm...

>>96158719
having never played netrunner, what are the basic rules of this?

Was the last thread archived?

>>96160544
The best way to think about it is as a tower defense game mixed with some bluffing elements.
One player is a "hacker" (in this case rethemed as the Expedition's side) which tries to build the best rig and program suite to break down the other player's defenses, the "evil corporation" (here rethemed as "whatever can be encountered in the Deep), and expose their dastardly plan.
Mechanically, this is done by the hacker simply saying he'll "run" (hence, Runner = Hacker in their world) on one of the Corp's servers, i.e, any "tower" of cards the Corp puts on the table facedown. The Corp's hand, deck and trash are all accessible locations, as well as any "remote" server he opened before. So, if the Corp leaves his HQ (name for the hand) or R&D without any defenses & the runner simply declares a Run on them, he get to reveal one card, if that's an Objective, he picks it up and scores it.
Part of the Deckbuilding rules forces the Corp to include a number of Objective cards based on how many cards you have in your deck (this will be simplified in this version, too much fiddling around in that mechanic), and for the Corp to win, he must find these cards, play them in a Remote Server, Advance them (i.e spend 1 Action & 1 Credit) up to its requirement, and then reveal it.
Defense cards (ICE) comes in 3 main types (Barrier, Sentry, Code Gate), and the Runner's hacking programs are usually keyed to breaking down a single type. Everything is done through Credit. Most Breakers (hacking programs) can be pumped to deal with any ICE of the correct type by feeding it Credits. Unless he is atrocious at deckbuilding, it is theoretically impossible to lock out a server from being accessed, it just becomes too expensive for the Runner's economy.
Runner gets 4 Actions a turn, Corp gets 3+1 card draw (to threaten flooding). Actions are mostly Draw a card, Play a card, Gain 1 Credit, Advance.
First player to get to 7 Objective points wins the game.

>>96163240
Oh, and also the Corp can simply kill the Runner, by doing enough Damage to him. Damage are
> Net Damage (discard a card from hand)
> Meat Damage (discard a card from hand)
(both of these are identical but have different things preventing them)
> Brain Damage (discard a card from hand and reduce hand size by 1).
If you can't discard enough cards, the Runner immediately loses the game.
Hence my favorite combo of all time, because its basically just "if you are rich, win, even if the other player succeeds".

>>96158719
In the base game there are 3 Hacker "factions" (they are more like archetypes) Anarch (burn everything, including yourself), Criminals (do crime, profit) and Shapers (white-hats, folks that hack because they like tech and figuring out shit, social advocates, etc) and 4 Corps, Haas-Bioroids (German engineering corp who like building robot slaves), Jinteki (Japs biotech corp who like to grow clone slaves), NBN (news conglomerate that nvented the new Internet and controls all narratives on it) & Weyland (The Mob landed the Space Elevator construction contract, and has since taken over a large sector of space exploration and colonization.)
Here Haas-Bioroid was the inspiration for Atlan, since HB tend to have the biggest, baddest Sentries, which in my version would be rethemed as the Enemy Encounters.
Weyland would be Mu (focus on Obstacles, slow, if they luck into their proper combo they can do more damage than most).
NBN would be Atlantis (focus on "soft" defenses, Encounters where both sides profit, tracking, lots of small Objectives that cost very little to achieve).
Jinteki would be Lemuria, focus on Enigmas, death by a thousand papercuts, traps, lots of very confounding rules like redirection rules or looping stuff.
The Runner to Expedition translation will be a bit more awkward, but I'm thinking French, Brits and Germans might end up Shapers (focus on building your Expedition), Italy, Ottomans & ? will be Anarchs (focus on destroying the other player) and US & Tsardom would be Criminals (focus on having better Econ than others).
Usually on the Corp side Haas-Bioroid (Atlan) & Jinteki (Lemuria) were considered the better options, but NBN (Atlantis) had early on some of the best cards, only Weyland (Mu) was usually left behind. But you can export a number of cards from any faction, as well as pick from "neutral" cards.

>>96161112
I can again, but its a bit annoying to do so only to have it pulled off in a couple of days. If this one gets removed I won't bother again, 4plebs is good enough as long as we make sure to link to the previous thread.

>>96163240
>>96163301
I dunno why you anons are talking netrunner in this thread, but I'm here for it.
one of the all time /tg/ great games.

>>96163547
Kek. It is indeed. Sad what happened to it in the end.
We're talking about it because I'm going to "reskin" it to be Agartha flavored, started here >>96158719 . It'll deviate a bit from the OG but right now you can probably tell which card is a stand in for which.
Not sure who I can put as Jackson Howard in Atlantis that would do him justice.

>>96163479
>Italy, Ottomans & ? will be Anarchs (focus on destroying the other player)
Japan? That's the only other Colonial faction.

Could you post the Psychopump, Coordinator, and Vector rules from Hyperborea? I'm working on a Whalur Hero. Psychopump might be a good fit for the Captain.

>>96163511
We used to post the links of archived threads at the beginning of the threads, maybe we should do the same, even if it is to make accessing some of the hidden ones easier.

>>96163646
>Could you post the Psychopump, Coordinator, and Vector rules from Hyperborea? I'm working on a Whalur Hero. Psychopump might be a good fit for the Captain.
Of course, here they are!
Psychopump is on the Machinemen itself.
> Psychopump (1 AP) : roll D3. Move all Pain Tokens within your Awareness that many hexes directly toward this model. If this model picked up Pain tokens as a result of this action, it gains 1 AP (max one AP regained per turn).
There's a few more on the Big Brain you might want to draw inspiration from
> Shared Trauma : This model may resolve Attacks against Friendly models, after resolving the Attack, it may transfer any amount of PAIN tokens from its track to the Target’s.
> Existential PAIN [1 LP]: Until this end of the turn, whenever any model fails any Test within Awareness range and LoS of this one, it generates a PAIN token.
> Concentrator [1 AP] : You may use this Action at any time, as long as you can pay its cost. Select 3 PAIN tokens adjacent to each other. Remove those tokens and replace one by a Random Emanation.

>>96163511
Are they getting hidden from downvoting or fully nuked off sup/tg/?

>>96164100
I think not, they are just being downvoted into oblivion. It happened to many of the Giantstep threads too, but if you have the link, you can still access them. Which is why we need to post the archived threads list.

>>96164511
Maybe have a pastebin or equivalent for it so it doesn't scare people off?

>>96164608
Why would it scare people off?

>>96164643
It's could be overwhelming. They are being suggested to read it all. Less of a problem after the thread has seen some use, but when it's brand new, it could be a bit much for some.

>>96164511
They also all show up if you click on any of the tags

>>96163921
What do you guys think of adding this rule, or a part of it, to the Captain? Maybe version with AP/LP cost, or a "once per game, until end of turn" clause, as a Faction Trait?

Human Maelstrom: When you're determining the type of an Emanation roll 2 dice and keep the one you wish. However, you must keep all rolls that result in LNGBK Emanations. When a LNGBK Emanation is placed, move all Pain Tokens within your Awareness d3 directly toward this model. If this model picked up a PAIN token as a result of this action, it gains 1 AP (max one AP per turn)

>>96165058
I like the first half that encourages specific emenations, but the pseudo-pain pump thing is a little strange.

>>96163479
>Italy, Ottomans & ?
Taiping? It fits the "fucked up surfacers" theme, which satisfies the pattern seeking impulse.

Whalur Hero finished in all but costs. I’ll post it ‘soon’ with comments. For now, some thoughts i had while doing it. In decreasing order of how much they matter.

I think Summoning the UR-CA by every model that could summon it having a Grevious Wound should be removed, because it makes it much more likely you’ll be able to summon him, and it’s something that happens to you rather than something you make happen. It’s weird to be rewarded for taking damage.
His Frenzy summoning methode doesn’t make sense unless he has Immune to Moral, or higher Disapline at least.

Experienced Hunter is different on Harpoonur and Mate. Version of Harpoonur is redundant with Whalur.

Is Whalur Mate not meant to be able to take First Aid Kits? I think he should be. Also, he seems about 5 silver overcosted to me. 16-18 seems more like the range. Harpoon gun is 3, Harpoons for it are 1 for 3, Rations are 1 per, and First Aid Kits are the same. Ideally you don’t take the Rations and First Aid Kits, but you’ll probably want to. So, he has an effective minium of 3, and can be fully kitted out with 7 (3 gun, 4 harpoons + rations + first Aid). 2 Sailurs w/ harpoons only is 16, 3 is 24. If you give them rations it becomes 18 and 26. I guess 17 is the easy option.

I think North Sea Revanchist should be renamed to N.S.R. Veteran. I know that seems like a petty thing, but i think it better reperents the roll that model is meant to play, which i wasn’t, admittidly, sure of upon posting. I was just really trying to get my foot in the door when i posted the models. I don’t think anyone is attached to the names, and it would make them less confusing, both in general, and also upon seeing them as merc options.

>>96166527
forget that last point.

>>96166527
>I think Summoning the UR-CA by every model that could summon it having a Grevious Wound should be removed, because it makes it much more likely you’ll be able to summon him, and it’s something that happens to you rather than something you make happen. It’s weird to be rewarded for taking damage.
Initially I meant Ur-Ca to be a last hail Mary for the Whalurs, but you are not wrong either, I think we can remove it.
For Experienced Hunter I thought I had fixed that, I had noticed too, but I guess I skipped fixing it in the end.
And yeah, the Mate didn;'t get medkits because he can use PAIN instead. Or at least that's how I understood the intent.

>>96164677
I suppose we could add the links to the googledoc, though having it on the threads themselves is still the most practical option.

>>96166266
In theory it causes more Emanations and helps the Captain reload. Getting AP from it is too much, on second thought, but i think the rest is alright.
>>96168483
It's not really that important. Do whatever is easiest. Though, just adding a pastebin link to the OP would make it more likely that the links stick around, i think.

>>96170886
And by causing more Emanations it causes more LNGBKR which pulls more PAIN to the captain and is lowering Discipline. Because it has potential to recur, and because of the randomness and additional steps it adds, it should be a once per game thing, should it be implemented, i think.
>possible whalur faction traits

Royal Whaler Captain: Requires Born to Lead. This model gains Whalur [+1]. You may recruit an additional Rowboat, and all friendly boats add Harpoon Guns to their Loadouts. British Army Privet replaces North Sea Revanchist as a Mercenary option. North Sea Revanchist is replaced by British Army Privet as a Mercenary option. (4 Silver)

Imperial Whaler Captain: Requires Born to Lead. This model gains Whalur [+1]. This model, Faction Elites, and Faction Specialists gain Evasion equal to their Whalur [X]. North Sea Revanchist is replaced by Satsuma Ashigaru as a Mercenary option. (5 Silver)

Fallen Sky Whaler: While this model is alive and you have LP remaining, When a Whalur Vehicle moves over an Emanation in it gains Flying until the end of the turn. (1 Silver)

Slesvig Veteran: This model gains Existential PAIN. (2 Silver)

Retired Libertine: This model gains Whaling Tune and War Dance. Models with Whaling Tune gain War Dance. (2 Silver)

>comments
Royal Whaler is for taking a dedicated naval list. Imperial Whalur is Experienced Hunter interaction and sustain for high value models. Fallen Sky Whalur is boat support and Emanation interaction. Slesvig Veteran lets you get PAIN without Whalur targets and have something to spend LP on. Retired Libertine is for a Sailur focused list. I thought I would have had more to comment on, but now, it all seems pretty straight forward to me

Chief Mate: Cost 10
AP: 2
Movement: 3, Accuracy: 5, Strength: 5, Discipline: 6, Evasion: 5, Labor: 4, Awareness: 4
Health: L1 B2 H1
Armor: 000G
Whalur [1], Savagery of Man, Harpoon Gun Training

Equipment: Dagger, Harpoon, Harpoon Gun, Gras, Lefaucheux, Dynamite, Rations, First Aid Kit, Alcohol, Material, Lantern, Torch, Flare

Second Mate: If you take a second First Mate, that model is instead a Second Mate, and may only take 3 Traits, and may not take Born to Lead.
>traits
Navigatur: When you would place a Water hex, place an additional Water hex. This may be taken a second time so that, while you have LP, Whalur Vehicles within this model’s Awareness have Vector [PAIN]. (4 Silver)

Quatermastur: This model may Harpoon PAIN (requires no test to hit. PAIN Harpooned by this model is said to have the same Movement as it). Additionally, this model may throw PAIN with it’s Harpoons. (1 Silver)

Son of Neptune: This model gains Whalur [+1], Tough, Water Affinity, Harpoon Training, Experienced Hunter, and Whaling Tune. (5 Silver)

“Abandon Ship!”: [1LP 1AP] Replace a Rowboat with 3 Frenzied Sailurs equipped with Equipment from the Rowboat. Then, gain 1 Dread. (2 Silver)

>>96171616
I thought the thing with the Royal Whalurs is that they were supposed to be the British attempt at a non-culty competing organization? It'd make more sense if you put it as "Royal Whaler Mutineer" or something like that.

>>96171820
That works. Can give the same treatment to Imperial, then.