Southland Auxiliaries Edition

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>Warhammer Chronicles:
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>Time of Legends:
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>The End Times:
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>TOW:
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/the-old-world-downloads/
>Alternative Models:
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>FAQ/Errata
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/wgp83jlw/old-world-faq-and-errata-designers-notes/

>Previous Thread:
>>96139607

>Thread Question:
Which army do you want to start next? Why?

When savage orcs get their models it’ll be them. Or maybe dogs of war. I dunno.

Cathay. I don't care what the bitching faggots around here say, I like how they look and like the Sentinel models and really want to get Meow because she was my favorite lord in Total Warhammer 3.

>>96151608 (OP)
Tomb Chads for sure

>>96151616
Cathay is pretty cool. The entire range looks great I just don't like how big the balloon is.

>>96151608 (OP)
>TQ
I'm gonna start VC. What do you guys think of these as zombies?

>>96151638
They don’t fit. Too Bloodborne. I dunno how to describe it, but it’d be better at home in Aos than fantasy battle.

>>96151660
>it’d be better at home in Aos
AoS is even less dark fantasy than whfb so that doesn't make sense.

>>96151616
Honestly it's the lore rape and powercreep but i think most of us agree the model range is pretty cool, if not decent for GW.
>TQ
Empire. Fun range, good alternative model options, plenty of ways to play. Thinking of them after wood elves

>>96151673
Whfb isn't dark fantasy lol

>>96151673
I dunno I see them and I think of that flesh eater courts army. Souls like? I dunno. Some fromslop.

>>96151608 (OP)
I like the OP's pic. They look flavourful

>>96151608 (OP)
>Which army do you want to start next
I'm torn.
Goblins look fun.
But also I feel like I could do empire ez.
But also VC.
But maybe Beastmen/cultists.

>>96151687
High fantasy with some dark tones, whatever. My point is that AoS has even less of that.

>>96151638
I think they'd fit better if you drilled out eye sockets for them.

>>96151718
I feel you big time. Indecision paralysis from too many choices.

>>96151687
Chorfs, Beastmen, and Dark Elves are pretty fucking firmly dark fantasy, Empire is grimderp, Bretonnia is noblebright mixed with the grimderpest mudcore nonsense

>>96151818
>chorfs
They’re dwarves so it’s hard to take them seriously at all
>beastmen
even with the rape they’re jobbers. Also it’s hard to take them seriously knowing they’re bound to show up anytime only for the real big bad to replace them.
>dark elves
Yeah they have women in power so that’s actually kinda scary. They also do rape in a much more effective manner than beastmen. This one gets the pass.

>>96151608 (OP)
I have my hands full on beastmen and some lizardmen I bought second hand (lots of paint striping) so no new armies for a while. Maybe Empire or helves next.

>>96151608 (OP)
have my hands full with cathay atm.
propably will add a few empire units to my collection if the cathay/empire soup AoI looks fun.

>>96151638
They'd fit perfectly fine in a Necrarch army. Makes sense to me that they would conduct an experiment that involves removing the eyes of an entire village for whatever reason. Other bloodlines could all have reasons to do this imho, except for blood dragons.

>>96152040
The only thing Necrarchs are capable of doing is shitting themselves and going insane. Maybe instead of working to further Nagashs plan they should work on finding a cure for being massive fags.

This post made by Carstein gang.

>>96152090
>This post made by—ACK! *squelch*
Shut up bitch.
Sincerely, Blood DraGOD

Vote for Gashnag.

>>96151638
They'll print like shit brother, those wrists and fingers will be gone within 1-2 games and the proportions overall don't look suited to 28mm(ish) scale. A lot of STL makers are just videogame asset designers and it shows.
>t. printed 12 armies and know what will print well vs not

>>96151608 (OP)
>Which army do you want to start next? Why?
Warriors of Chaos.
They're cool as fuck and the box of an amazing deal.

I read somewhere that the old elf Hellebron became a worshiper of the god Khorne during the end times. Is this true or false?

>End Times

>>96152221
doesn't seem so, but she did go blood crazy

have I had a stroke, or did they already put out a dwarf slayer army of infamy? hence the Ungrim model and the gobbo-hewer

>>96152318
it was so shit they decided to give it another go

>>96152325
It’s dwarves. I genuinely don’t know how you make them good in a way that’s not NPE for the other guy. Don’t know why they bothered

Which army is violent only because of their socioeconomic conditions

>>96152333
Dwarves, unironically.

>>96152318
nope, one was the royal clan, the other was the expeditionary force
I guess they couldn't make a slayers-focused army of infamy because they wanted the two main AoI of the faction's basic journal to have mostly plastic troops
metal troops are absurdly overpriced, practically a trap for collectors more than an offer for players, and they know it
which means that either the armies of infamy of these campaign books are allowed to focus on less feasible parts of the army, or they have a kit of plastic slayers to be revealed closer to the release of the book and they showed the kang kits because they're on the cover art
But I highly doubt the latter

>>96152333
Skaven

>>96152333
Orges

>>96152331
expeditionary force with engineer sappers with Rune of Concussive Force plays like a mix of gyro spam and gunline and it's fun

>>96152333
U.S., RUSSIA, CHINA AND VENEZUELA.

Painting some chaos warriors and I think the boots are the only part I'm not satisfied with. My highlights look too chunky and stark but I'm struggling to find any guides specifically for boots.
Any protips anyone can share? A darker highlight colour? Hit it with a wash to try and bring the contrast down?

>>96152318
You're thinking of royal clans. Taking Ungrim allows you to take slayers as core. The problem is that Ungrim costs way too many points (especially compared to dwarf king) and slayers are turds as they are really expensive and come with zero fucking saves so even the shittiest of ranged attacks completely annihilate them

Issue with slayer AoI is that the current "slayer range" is pretty limited and as they are old metal models they're pretty expensive. They said they still have models to reveal so we'll have to wait and see.

They will probably get some sort of movement speed buff and ward save with the new AoI

>>96152365
black wash or contrast/speed paint

>>96152365
I think that highlight colour is too stark against the rest of the boot. The bigger the contrast between base and highlight, the "sharper" the material looks because it looks like it's glinting. Try again with something like eshin grey or skavenblight dinge (or non gw equivalent) or give it a couple of coats of black wash.

>>96152365
No ones gonna notice them when ranked up anyways. Doubly so if you gave them shields

>>96152201

Yeah, bestiarum miniatures signature style of having a ton of very spindly bits is bad for wargaming.

>>96152380
>>96152437
Thanks bros, I think I will try using some contrast paint, I have some Black Templar black that I think will work well, as the boot is Vallejo Charcoal with a Nuln Oil wash and it should help bring back a bit of the blue tint. If that doesn't work I'll basecoat again and try with a darker grey highlight.
>The bigger the contrast between base and highlight, the "sharper" the material looks because it looks like it's glinting.
This helpful and what I was trying to avoid but I lack the talent at the moment to pull off highlights on rounded surfaces.
>No ones gonna notice them when ranked up anyways. Doubly so if you gave them shields.
I know this is true but *I* will notice. I just don't highlight the side that will be hidden by the shield.

Forgive the terrible lighting but I'm quite pleased with my progress so far.

>>96151616
Funny they choose to use that art when it show peasants and crane-gunners units (not available in TOW).
Also Alchemist.

Anon who dropped the AJ The War of Settra's Fury writeup yesterday here. Just saw screenshots shared somewhere else, and realised I missed the Border Prince AoI character list when copy pasting from word. Here it is lol

Characters:
0-1 Border Prince, basic human lord, WS 6, 3 attacks, Ld 9. Lots of equipment options and can ride a barded or unbarded warhorse. Lets mercenary units reroll misbehaviour tests
Border Marshals, same options as the prince, hero stats, BSB option
Outcast Wizards, see Bret exiles
If Exile knight: Paladins, 0-1 Damsel
If Imperial Asset: Captains, 0-1 Engineer per 1k
If dorf friend: 0-1 Thane, Dragon Slayer or Engineer per 1k

>>96152561
Shut the fuck up, you nigger, you were already shown as a fraud, just stop spamming now.

>>96152561
Do you have brain damage or something or starved for attention?

Nobody cares about your works of fiction

>>96152583
>starved for attention?
Thats what /tg/ is for

>>96152336
I don't know if Skaven and Greenskin invasions count as a socioeconomic condition.

Yeah I’m still not feeling Cathay. Went and dug through the tww lore and it’s still not good.

>expecting that LORE will fix Cathay
literally lmaoing at you. You can't fix the core issue: sinoshit not having a place in WHFB.

>>96152787
>You can't fix them
I did with my extensive headcanon document

>>96152781
>>96152787
I have to agree, Cathay works better as a distant, mythical country, so that's what they are in my head canon.

>>96152561

I want to believe these leaks.

Looks like we are getting that TOWRPG GM book this week since some sites are making articles about it.

>>96152793
The trouble with Cathay is it has all the grandeur of far off tales come to life with none of the downsides

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>>96152842
Stop samefagging.

I respect the fact that GW took a risk and invested in an entirely new plastic army for TOW, but I think it was a big mistake how they handled it. First of all giving a new army, especially one as unpopular as Cathay, BEFORE doing all the legacy armies is a huge mistake and killed the momentum that the game was steadily building up until now. Also this is the first WHF army to be wholly designed by new people with no input from the Old Guard, and it shows. This is an AoS army on square bases. It just doesn't fit the aesthetic. A lot could've been forgiven had they done Cathay after all the legacies and after Kislev, but doing it now might really end up throwing TOW into a death spiral, especially if we have nothing new to look forward to for the next year or so.

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NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNIIIIIIIIGGGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>96152911
nobody gives a shit about legacy armies and Im glad they will never get any TOW support from GW.

NIGGA

Id like to apologise for my outburst I have schizophrenia and the above posts do not reflect my views

new schizo drop ?

>>96151818
If chorfs are dark fantasy than mordor is dark fantasy. Vagrant rapists in the woods and slavers also aren't notably dark fantasy. And the empire + brettonia are barely worse places to live than the time periods they are based on.

>>96152911
There's much better ways to get attention outside of trying to ragebait anons on /tg/. I think you need a hobby! I would recommend actually playing games of warhammer instead of pretending online.

>>96152911
>First of all giving a new army, especially one as unpopular as Cathay, BEFORE doing all the legacy armies is a huge mistake and killed the momentum that the game was steadily building up until now.

Anon it sold out entirely

>>96152911
Maybe. Wargaming is a weird spot.
You can make money of an army that 90% of the fan base hates. Because most players only buy one or a few armies, armies don't need mass appeal.

>>96152944
I think I've seen these posts in /40kg/.
God I hope we don't get whatever mentally ill poster they have.

>>96152911
>First of all giving a new army, especially one as unpopular as Cathay, BEFORE doing all the legacy armies is a huge mistake and killed the momentum that the game was steadily building up until now

gives a reason to legacy (and non legacy too) faction havers to buy something new
gets the attention of the chinese market
tow gets substantial new content

vs

rerelease another grog faction that most grogs already have 90% of and will only buy a couple new characters if any
keep tow in a continuous state of rereleases with barely anything new making it seem a half assed product (it is anyways, but perception is key)

as much as i want some legacy factions back and as retarded as gw is, this was (execution aside) a good move (for them)

>>96152201
>They'll print like shit brother

For those who've built the dark elf executioners - are all the cloaks compatible with all the front halves?

>>96151638
this is warhammer not silent hill, the style couldn't be more different, unless you want to go for a whole army in that style that is, in that case go wild

if you want something more warhamey check out fireforge living dead, or actually get the aos zombies and remove all the roots and shit they have

>>96152201
> A lot of STL makers are just videogame asset designers and it shows.
this is the problem with most stls honestly

When do they email people?

>>96153151
Cloaks?

Are warhammer vampires weak to sunlight?

>>96153427
Depends on the vampire. Vampires are very inconsistent with their strengths and weaknesses (mostly deliberately). Every vampire thing you've read about in fiction applies to some but not all, probably.

>>96153427
Yes when they go to war they use Magic to darken the skies etc

>>96153151
Yes, that era of kits is true multipart.

>>96153414
The current kit obviously

>>96153427
>>96153435
They had lame pop culture weaknesses in WFRP 2e, copypasted by the hacks who wrote their splatbook. They don't have any in WHFB proper.

>>96153427
Yes, but also no.

>>96153445
Shhhh, you'll make the 6e tard scream, mald and throw his metal turds around his room.

>>96153455
Night's Dark Masters is the best vampire book GW ever had

Fantasybros... Your response?

>>96153427

>>96153469
It has some good parts, but most of it needs a full rewrite to fit the setting and be good from a mechanical standpoint. Classic horror tropes don't belong in Warhammer.

>>96153427
Sunlight, bodies of water, religious symbols, garlic, etc. all the usual vampire stuff.
It's not really anything wrong with the vampire elixir in particular, it's just that nagash got so pissed off by the vampires refusing to answer his call to war when going against the empire at the time of sigmar, that he threw who knows how many spiteful curses at them, or at least that's from what I remember.
In real practice, the oldest/strongest vampires are more than capable of getting around these as little more than inconveniences, not mortal weaknesses.

>>96153478
You need a good rewrite to fit real life.

>>96152500
if you use contrast/speedpaint just give it a light drybrush with white and then hit it with a slightly diluted contrast.
you can use water to dilute, but medium is a lot better

>>96153474
There is no response. WH has no basis in realistic tactics or battles, it's just a game

>>96153478
>Classic horror tropes don't belong in Warhammer.
Why?

>>96153478
>Classic horror tropes don't belong in [the setting with a classic horror tropes faction].

Be honest, do you think if GW made a new Araby army that they would be better than the proxy models Perry Miniatures already sells?

>>96153522
of course

>>96153522
>nuGW
>better

>>96153506
Because it has its own cosmology and puts a fresh spin on a lot of things. Also because they would clash with actual gameplay. For example, it doesn't matter how many holy symbols your warrior priest, battle pilgrims or chaos warriors are covered in - blood knights will hit them just as hard and destroy them just as easily.

>>96152990
I can still buy everything Cathay just fine. It's the only TOW release that didn't sell out for me. I know some other stores are also pretty lukewarm on the final reception of the army, i.e mediocre. They were expecting more out of it.

>>96153532
The wargame rules don't have to concern themselves with little bits of info like that.
And the fresh spin comes from how warhammer's own cosmology mamages to recreate those classic tropes with its own internal logic.

>>96153530
Where did all the spiky chaos trim go? Holt shit they look bland

>>96152333
Ogres and giants.
If they've got enough food, they become pretty content. Ogres do have wanderlust though, so it's probably hard to keep them for too long.

>>96152333

>>96153573
They chose to make them practically-not-chaos like dark elves, hashut has now been confirmed as an ancestor god of the dwarfs.
There's not one single actual skull on the models anywhere.

>what could have been
https://www.instagram.com/p/DBa3vjmM0li/?img_index=1

>>96153503
Jesus Perry this looks pathetic even for you

>>96153618
Actually it's in their nature

So are we *actually* getting DoW or not?
What do the leaks say?

>>96152911
I dunno people up here where I live loved Cathay. Even got 2 new people for it. The lores retarded but the models other than the baloon seem to resonate with people. People like fantasy china, warhammer fantasy, and giving away money so it br what it be.

>>96152911
You're completely correct, anon, but there are people (retards cross-posting from /aosg/, likely, who really should go back) who will call you names for saying what you just said.

>>96153718
You're getting border princes per the leaks who will function like old DoW in some regards, and we may see a limited released of a few old models. Otherwise it's just SOUP: THE FACTION that will be a bunch of OC donut steal retarded fag shit or some powergamer shit that will be squatted in 5 years to the cries of the retarded.
>it does look fun to play around in assuming leaks are largely legitimate.

>>96153718
There are no leaks

Valrak heard the old dogs of war were coming and thought (wrong) that they were going to be shown at the preview

What the stream revealed is that there'll be an arcane journal with an army of infamy about the border princes, so a mixture of things

Anything about leaks is utter bullshit that the anon spamming them is desperately trying to force despite being proven to be lying

Weeks ago I was told Press of Battle would mean you'd see whole armies staring each other down with both players refusing to be the one who charges. Did that end up happening to anyone?

>>96153796

I think you were told that by a retard mate. Gotta get in combat if you want to get victory points, gotta get victory points if you wanna win.

>>96153796
Not for me, but that's because no one is afraid of my wood elf eternal guard or dyrads or I'm multi charging.
My one beastmen game also everyone charged because had to take the central spot.

>>96153796
I had a game against high elves last week where his 10 man spears refused to charge the murder saurus on cold one I planted one inch infront , and I refused to charge his spearmen with my saurus warriors (as I needed them to prevent a flank). So his spear mani and my saurusmani just glared at each other all game from about 8 away.

But that’s more incidental tactics rather than deliberate due to changes.

>>96153872
I like the map, but how were you able to explain in your head why dinosaurs and lizards were conducting a contested amphibious beach landing (where are their landing craft/ships?)

>>96153891
NTA but maybe the Slaan made it so the lizardmen could walk on the water? Be creative with the narratives.

>>96153891
Also nta, but lizardmen have ships and various ways to transport and often do invade other places. You'd know this if you played warhammer

Which models have conical shapes on them? Want to kitbash some improved hats for the new chorfs

>>96153918
You're missing the point.

>>96153891
High elves had landed in lustria went exploring for goodies, found them and are retreating.
. Llizards simply attacked enmasse the landing party and, sunk the boats preventing their escape from green hell.
High elves return to their ships to find an entire lizard army they thought chasing behind them has arrived and already mustered for battle, there is no escape with the green death behind them and the lizards infront.
The albino skink priest leading the force remembers the great mazdumundi’s words on the elves “they do not belong here” and signals the attack, his interpretation of the slaan statement implying obliteration.

>>96153921
just buy better infantry units to start from, even irondrakes and hammerers will make for better starting points.
You can print the hats.

>>96153540
Nah, that Battalion Box, the Shungengan Lord, and the dice sold out in all Warhammer.com regions (except Aus lol) before release. They filled it back up soon after similar to how the TK and Bret boxes sold out hard on their initial release.
It's a great sign as not even stuff like Space Wolves or the new Idoneth Deepkin sold out for their preorders. Which isn't to say they sold poorly, but selling out means GW underestimated demand, which means even more funding in the future (it's how we got Cathay).

>>96152333
Ogres. Ogres aren’t hateful just very hungry.

>>96152911
>it’s an AoS army
What? It’s extremely historical?

>>96153964
Why are the lizards starting in formation in the surf?

>>96153964
>>96153891
>>96153908
>>96153918
These guys also propose good enough lore justifications anon.
Tbh I think their was a slaan several hundred kilometres away directly piloting the skink priests magic considering he frequently outcast the level 4 high elf mage that game.
Not to mention the lone skink red crest unit champion who attacked and actually murdered the mage in h2h emerging from the forest behind him after his unit was reduced to him alone through fireballs.
It was a lore friendly trip to lustria is what I’m saying.
Plenty of people land on lustria, and delve into the jungle, few leave.

>>96154000
the slann told them to

>>96153991
I really don't get the aos army critique either. They're extremely blocky, extremely uniform and very clearly based on a single historical culture, all of which aos typically avoids. The only thing that can be considered 'aos' about it is the lack of variation for infantry options, in favour of big centrepieces. And even that isn't really an aos thing, it's more just gw's modern approach to army releases.

Marauder refresh incoming? There have been a few rumors floating about...

>>96153976
Anon, on the NA webstore right now all the models are sold out except for the Gate Master kit. The battalion, balloons, sentinels and shugegen are all sold out

>>96154080
>There have been a few rumors floating about...
No, there haven't, you goddamn nigger.

>>96154095
Didn't realize they basically ALL sold out eventually. That's so much better.

>>96153540
>I can still buy everything Cathay just fine.

Yeah because get restocked dumbass

>>96154080
Games Workshop my converted flail idea

>>96154096
There was this leaker/rumor all the way back in April that was almost entirely accurate (they got the skirmish thing a bit off). Definitely been floating around out their in rumor-land.

>>96153540
Where do you live?

>>96154080
>Marauder refresh incoming?
Can't say I'm excited.

>>96154050
>cop out answer
Thanks for conceding that is makes no sense

>>96154143
Darkoath are trash, but the new TK stuff looks great.

>>96154151
Yeah. Most of the Old World sculpts are fantastic. The only ones I don’t like are the foot knights and the empire general hero that looks like a Warcraft character.

>>96154151
Darkoath are more inline with Marauders conceptually thank Tomb Kings.
If we do get Marauders they're probably going to be some cringe diversity crew.

Border Princes soon

>>96154233
>Border Princes soon

How soon??

>>96153474
He's right, look at the battle of Barnet for example, the battlelines drew up offset from one another so the Vangaurds of both armies got overwhelmed and the whole battle pivoted 90 degrees, although there's also example of Tewksbury, where the Yorkists set up an ambush on the west flank which paid off, so eh

>>96154151
>the dragon that not even the sculptor liked

>>96154258
Within the next 2-3 months

>>96154266
Lots of artists hate well liked artwork they've made

>>96153642
>There's not one single actual skull on the models anywhere.
Holy shit maybe they're meant to appeal to the Chinese market hence why they look like shitty Gatcha game MMO models

>Perrynigger is back to spamming
Don't you have some ugly ass historical poverty models to be working on?

>>96154282
>lots of people like slop

There's one box of Cathay left in my city and I am mighty tempted to buy it and snag it before it gets bought up.

>>96153796
I've only done 2 games since and for various reasons neither really helped me find out, Steve from MM (Yes I know he's retarded but he does play a lot of games) has found that it's quite a big problem for his games though

>>96154331
>Steve from MM (Yes I know he's retarded but he does play a lot of games) has found that it's quite a big problem for his games though
Did you listen to the same Kings under the Mountain podcast? The Dwarf team England guy says that it's the opposite since the errata in the UK where everyone is just trying to table everyone since the errata. But he said that may be just because people are far more aggro at his comp level of play.

>>96154266
I was referring to the 4 new models revealed, they're pretty great!

>>96154127
>CATHAY IS SOLD OUT LOL
>actually, it isn't and is readily availa-
>THEY RESTOCKED LMAO
Ah, a retard.

>>96154282
He also hated the process, which was Frankensteining different sculptor's works together without coordination.

>>96154080
Some of the rumor engine stuff has started to sit around a good while now. After the preview show one of my friends decided to dig through the old rumor post and some of those like the AoS general grievous on meth sculpt and some AoS blimp dwarf sculpt went back to like 2023. We might be years out from that’s cult meaning anything

>>96154374
What a weird thing for you to lie about considering anyone can go on the GW webstore and take a look and see it's all sold out except for Gate Masters.

>>96154145
It does make sense, the slann knows the elves are coming back and instructs the lizards to prepare by forming ranks and files.
It's quite obvious really.

>>96154266
>the sculptor
you say that as if he sculpted the whole thing when he only made the throne, not even the rider.
a big deal of his whining was about how the rider would take centerstage on the model and his his work on the throne.

>>96154397
>After the preview show one of my friends decided to dig through the old rumor post
why? we have a resource for that already
literally the first result on google too
https://warbosskurgan.blogspot.com/p/rumour-engines.html?m=1

>>96154374
Its quite literally sold out besides gatemasters on the US store, anon-kun

>>96154421
she said that she didnt agree with the lore reason for the dragon

>>96154349
Yeah I guess I did, I don't think there's really been any major tournaments since the FAQ so I would take comp players opinions with a grain of salt, they tend to end up playing a totally different meta as everyone else, especially whilst practicing between tournaments, as they sniff eachothers farts

>>96154397
>>96154437
Yeah, the longest gap we have is multiple years, while the shortest is like 2 days. Kinda crazy range.

>>96154441
>she
not a she
>lore reason
we have had artworks of dragons in nehekara since before the first armybook

>>96154488

>>96153138
Sorry if I was a little blunt. To try and be a little more constructive, here's what I've printed, although I accept they're not the same style as your choice. They're fully modular, come with a ton of arm and weapon options (you get the guy's entire back catalog of modular hands and weapons by just buying this one set), and they're cross compatible with the creator's many other modular humanoid kits too if that's your thing. I found 92-95% to be a good scale to print them to fit in with gw humanoid minis.

I need ideas for fun homebrew magic weapons

>>96154525
what army?

>>96154080
I don't know why people still pay attention to the rumour engine, most pictures are far too zoomed in and vague to be able to accurately tell what they're going to be. Total waste of time and energy to pay attention to it imo, I just wait for the reveals instead.

>>96154143
Lmao I still can't believe how bad they are. Even the banner topper has an antifa dangerhair haircut.

>>96154525
Have you thought about looking up magic items from older edition? I am creatively bankrupt so ymmv

>>96154525
Back in ye olden days chaos would occasionally just have 40K weapons and gear. You could give them names that makes it vague as to what they are at first glance, but kind of obvious if someone knows what’s up
>the hungering blade
Just a chain sword or chain axe
>da explodie bit chukka
A ork rokkit launcha
>the unbreakable plate
Just a space marine chest plate
>the bolt of (faction relevant hero/god)
A Necron Tachyon Arrow

>>96154581
generic, it's for a campaign

>>96154594
What's the theme or location of the campaign then?
The best items start from their fluff and looks, the gameplay mechanics come later

>>96154586
>I don't know why people still pay attention to the rumour engine
I like baseless speculation, it fills in dead time at work.

>>96154586
Some of the ones you only get one or two that are obvious what faction it’s for are fun to guess and discuss with friends what it might be.
If it’s some hyper zoomed in upside down part of some model nobody would give a shit about anyway I’ll just ignore it.

The chaos knight one that was just 3/4pictures of the same one model’s weapons was extremely boring after it became clear it was for a single model

>>96154080
Have any of the rumour engines ever been for old world ?

>>96153796
You now need stuff like furious charge if you want to charge the enemy. My black orcs win me games constantly because of this. My block here basicaly smashes everything kn king of the hill.

>>96154755
This. Reminder White Lions have FC now.

>>96154755
Furious Charge, Throwing Spears or Frenzy, or just totally outmatch your opponent

>>96154739
Just one so far.

>>96154739
Not so far, no, but there have been for all other systems except maybe middle earth and the small scale stuff like titanicus, while blood bowl gets them clearly marked as such when it happens.

>>96154790
MESBG gets its own rumour images in different articles

>>96152561

This guy's leaks are weird, because they match up word for word with stuff I'd previously seen, but contain things not in those versions. Either he's got lucky with guesses, stuff has been added, or he's made up a load of crap to cover his tracks.

Customising your bp army with traits, and most of the bp and slayer lists matches up. I'd not heard anything about a savage orc list. The vampire trait is new, and if it's made up is a fucking shame because it's cool. Slayer list didn't have any slayer pirates or kraken slayers, though the priests and slayer axes are spot on. Brotherhood of Grimnir were the slayer monks from the final Gotrek and Felix book in the version I'd seen, and didn't wear amour. I guess we'll find out when the book releases in a couple of months.

>>96154790
>>96154901
Old World gets em >>96154787

>>96154957
Is this your opinion or are you copying it from somewhere

>>96155013

My own statement

>>96154957
STOP SAMEFAGGING YOUR FAKE ASS LEAKS YOU GODDAMN NIGGER

>>96155044

Fuck me, is this guy the new Perryfag?

Anyway, Warhammer:

What are you guys hoping for in an actual Border Princes/DoW list? Might as well wishlist if people are leaking

>>96155066
Don’t really care for more humans I’ll you that

>>96151608 (OP)
>Which army do you want to start next?
Skaven themed as Clan Verms
>Why?
I am obsessed with bugs

>>96154374
I said "it sold out" not "is sold out" anon.

>>96154504
>this guy who was an entirely new sculptor that only made a small portion of the model is totally an authority on warhammer art direction and lore guys

>>96152561
No mention of the galloper gun or birdmen tho? I've seen playtest docs that have stats for those.

>>96155076
I just googled them and they are a black plague reference.
Do Fleas influence your decision that much?

>>96154957
Same here. I haven't heard anything about the orc army, the vampire trait, or some of the details in the slayer army. AFAIK the birdmen and galloper gun are supposed to be coming for the border princes army as well, and last time I saw the slayer list there were dwarf carts. Also the third AoI I saw was tomb kings.

>>96155107
I definitely do intend on including some of the giant nurgle fleas from gellerpox infected as giant rat proxies

>>96155097
no, you haven't, samefag

>>96155124
Okay, that would be pretty great

>>96155097
>>96155120

You're too obvious.

>>96155136
i am the same guy from both of these posts but not the same leaker who posted the "contents" of the journal.

>>96155145
>but not the same leaker
there's no leaker, we have never had any leakers in these threads, you would know if you weren't a newfag wasting days trying to make a new fake rumor pick steam.

>>96155161
It's probably clout anons trying to get Screencaps for discord or social media, since night at the museum went viral.

>>96155161
Except the actual leaker with a 99% track record said that the other anon probably did see a version of the AJ, but enough was different that it was prob an earlier version

>>96155180
>Except the actual leaker with a 99% track record said
no, he didn't
>the other anon
you're not a plurality, mr they/them

I've been slowly assembling a TK army and I was thinking about adding a unit of Tomb Guard but I've got a question.
Can Tomb Guard take halberds and shields at the same time? It seems like the models are built that way, but halberds take two hands right? Is this going to be a situation where the unit has hand weapons with shields AND halberds and then switches between those options or am I missing something?

>>96153551
Except it doesn't recreate those tropes at all, which is why their use in NDM was inappropriate and massively out of character.

>>96155161
brother i've been a user of /tg/ since like 2007 i just haven't used 4chan much in the last decade hahaha

>>96155224
a model can be equipped with both a two-handed weapons and a shield, it will use the shields against ranged attacks, but it will not use the shield in melee if the unit decides to wield the halberds for that combat

>>96155224
No, they can use their halberds (which are really glaives) one-handed.

I’m realizing some people here are kinda gay.

>>96155219
Sorry anon-kun, wrong again.

>>96155234
It sounds like you're just emotionally invested in vampires being your overpowered toys, instead of liking them for being vampires.

>>96155224
This>>96155240 is correct
This>>96155246 anon is trolling a bit or just slightly retarded.

>>96155253
Counterpoint: it sounds like you want every setting to be like WoD, instead of just sticking to it since you like it so much.

>>96155097

They're Tilean, not from the Border Princes. Also didn't exist in the TOW era

>>96155239
>brother i've been a user of /tg/ since like 2007
No, you haven't.

>>96155270
I don't care about WoD in the slightest, you're wrong, and a fag.

>>96155250
Just like the fake fimir profile you showed the class last time and got laughed after for getting the rules wrong, right?
Fucking retard.

>WOD
Honestly kinda like how vampires are done there more than warhammer. Vampire fags are too gay and are the next worst thing to chaos.

>>96155304
No, this is about the Tomb King AJ2, which a confirmed leaker with a fantastic track record backed up.

>>96155315
The discord one? Lmao.

>>96155304
The fmir bro at least delivered a list for funsies

>>96155307
VtM is a game focused on Vampire culture, so it makes sense that it does more with them, whereas Vampire Counts were a somewhat late addition to 5th WFB, which is the time were all the Bloodlines started appearing.

>>96155317
Yeah, that dude has sources months (even years) out. Definitely has an lead on the actual dev team.

>>96155318
No, he didn't.

First Cathay, now this. I have lost the last tiny grain of faith I had left in GW. All talent and art the creators of Warhammer Fantasy had has long since left the company and what has replaced that void is a bunch of creatively bankrupt millennial losers that grew up playing WoW, League of Legends, and Overwatch. Let face it... This is not Warhammer. It's a poor imitation masquerading around as Warhammer, just like Ashkenazi Jews walk around saying they're biblical Israelites.
I'm fucking done

>>96155337
You can try and force this, but this leads to mental illness. Another anon already proved how uncredible he is in the other thread.

>>96155315
>>96155337
Noone is backing your fake rumors.

>>96155265
>>96155240
Thanks Anons
One of my buddies plays Lizards so I figured I would need the halberds for the strength and AP against the saurus warriors, still getting to use the shields against being shot up by skinks is a nice bonus.

>>96155347
>Just now losing faith in GW’s ability to restrain itself from making over designed bland shit

>>96155349
No you're thinking of Fimir guy, nobody said anything negative about that Javgoro guy.
>>96155357
IDK, a lot of people in this and the previous thread are taking them at face value due to his reputation, so I think they are.

>>96155367
>nobody said anything negative about that Javgoro guy.
Oh so we're already past the mental illness threshold.

>>96151682
What lore rape?

>>96155347
Why you got to be so dramatic?

>>96155367
Anon, it doesn't matter how much your wishlist paraded as a rumor may accidentally come close to what's possible, one part of your shit was royally debunked, the rest follows to be debunked as well.

Stop spamming your fake leaks now, go shit up /40kg/ or whatever you newfags do nowadays.

>>96155398
>consoomer bugman can't comprehend a man of conviction
Classic

>>96155401
>one part of your shit was royally debunked,
Its not my stuff, I'm just talking about the parts that were confirmed by the much more accurate discord guy.
>Stop spamming your fake leaks now, go shit up /40kg/ or whatever you newfags do nowadays.
This is a discussion thread, not a personal thread meant to please you. Ignore what you don't wanna discuss.

>>96155347
>Loosing faith in GW over some shit designs from a different game system.
>Still having faith in GW 10 years after the ET.

>>96155224
Yes exactly. They are modelled with halberds and shields because they can take both at the same time but either use halberds or hw/shields and switch between each round of combat.

>>96155410
A man of high school drama class maybe.

>>96155347
You should start putting your posts through an ai to disguise them perrynigger you’re too obvious otherwise

>>96155382
faction with no major defining flaws, does everything better because why not

>>96155347
Post this drivel in /aosg/ faggot
>>96155358
Yeah this is a good plan, just know charging saurus warriors might result un your dudes imploding (are you empire or chaos?)
>>96155367
You're arguing with perrynigger at this point, I myself am sort of suspect of these leaks but it's not that aggravating.

>>96151608 (OP)
>TQ
I kind of want to pick High Elves back up since that was my old army, but I feel the allure of Big Musket from the Empire.

>>96155411
>Its not my stuff
yes, it is, you fake ass nigger
you're not discussing anything, you're just shitposting with one fake rumor after another and replying to yourself hoping someone picks up the bait.

what a great and engaging thread everyone. See you in the next, next thread.

>>96155347
>I'm fucking done
What are you waiting for for finish yourself then ?

>>96155382
NTA, but they are definitely making Cathay way more involved in the wider world than they had ever been stated to be before hand. The very clear statement from 6th edition’s rule book is very little contact has occurred between them and the outside world, period with a lot of it being tall tales from lying merchants looking to spin yarn. While in reality the have no real intrest in leaving their borders and instead in dealing with their own problems

It’s the equivalent of if real life china randomly became hyper involved in the Hundred Years’ War.
I get it GW would have a hard time pushing a faction that literally never leaves it’s borders as even the Lizardmen are described as doing this.

>>96155496
Compared to the changes to Magic Lores in general, that Cathay being retconned into being more outgoing doesn't really seem that bad, at least in my opinion.

>>96155516
Magic hasn't been retconned or changed.

>>96155410
psst buddy throwing a fit over it is obsessive consumer behavior too

>>96151608 (OP)
>TQ
I've got 1000 points of WoC basecoated but they're just not exciting me. I've also got enough for 1000+ points of almost every other army in my backlog, many of which are more exciting to me than WoC, but that would mean starting from scratch, whereas I could shade and highlight the WoC and they're done. Not really sure what to do at this point. Maybe if I rewrite my WoC list with new abilities and items it'll reignite my interest in them.

>>96155347
GWn has been shit for decades at this point m8. You're a bit slow.

>>96155448
The empire handguns are elephant gun sized. It’s great.

>>96155526
I don't mean any recent change, just the fact that the lores in Old World don't correspond to the Winds of Magic like in Fantasy

>>96155554
Do you see the shit empire people have to shoot?

>>96155554
That was the normal size for early muskets like that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGgZJ112lSc

Can anyone give me some feedback on the Warhammer Armies Project? I want to know if it's worth the time to learn it or if it's better to stick to the old world.

>>96155304
No that was me, it was a joke

>>96155680
Apparently it was decent and corrected many of the issues with 8th which is what it was based on
If you have people willing to try it, give it a shot

>>96155357
Didn't know Noone was into warhammer fantasy.

>>96155347
Am I alone and barking up a tree if I say that for some reason these models look profoundly.. Runescape?

>>96151608 (OP)
They were KANGS

>>96155732
they do have some sovl in them..

>>96152561
> Spamming more of his faggot LARP
Spamming isn't allowed

>>96152911
Lmao Cathay was popular as space marines according to NA retailers (so the only area that matters). No one cares if your shithole region couldn't order that many because you are dirt poor (ie gross slavs)

>Kitbashing some Slaaneshi-flavoured bow ungor using blissbarb archers
>The sprue is an absolute fucking mess
>Parts are divided in the most insane ways
>Everything breaks when you apply even the slightest amount of pressure
Whoever designed this shit should be dragged out onto the street and shot.

96155770
If you're going to bait you have to at least make it somewhat beleivable

>>96155770
>GW killed fantasy to try and sell more space marines
>failed miserably
>bring back fantasy begrudgingly since rank and flank flourished without GW
>random Chinese women turn out to be your fantasy space marine sales equivalent

>>96153796
Only on faggot channels like Mountain Miniatures where they play like fags
Competitive non shit Warhammer is still charging

>>96155797
DESU part of is is probably excitement over a faction that has never had any table top presence before.

>>96153964
Based

>>96155413
Thanks anon, I guess that why it says ADD halberds instead of "replace with".

>>96155441
>empire or chaos
Tomb Kings

>>96155808
I'm more surprised more stl peddlers haven't jumped in.

>>96155839
to much work to make it work as a STL since a lot of the detail on TWW comes from textures

>>96154957
desu it's weird that Slayer list isn't getting slayer pirates, for a DoW themed book it seems like a no brainer, but it does raise the question of how can they make a slayer list that's different than the slayer sub-list they can already make as part of the ancestrial holds AoI, some kind of universal ward save? I don't think it really changes how they play at all so seems pointless

>>96155808
People are supporting it so GW don't write TOW off, so they can get new models for armies they actually like.

>>96155808
It's actually the same reason as every other army/battleforce set: scalpers grabbing all the stock so they can resell it piecemeal at a markup. I used to know one such guy irl, it's a nasty business.

>>96155896
You can look online we don't have a scalper presence like 40k. Too many 3rd party and old grogs and a smaller fan base. Especially for stuff that will be restocked, it's just not the 40k fomo cycle to prey on.

Chaos anons, is it worth bringing a group of Gors or Ungors instead of Marauders?

>>96155896
>It's actually the same reason as every other army/battleforce set: scalpers grabbing all the stock so they can resell it piecemeal at a markup.
It's not a limited box though.

>>96155915
No

>>96155820
You should be ok just know the dinosaurs are Damm fighty so be prepared to either boost or flank charge to break them, or bring some Heros. A block of them can grind down TG especially if you roll like shit and a bunch crumble.

>no frogmouth helmets for knights
Humanity in this setting is rancid dogshit.

>>96155917
Resellers don't care, and they expect there to be a demand for individual units that they split the boxes into. They buy out and split up even starter sets.

>>96155955
>the boxes sold out so a few dozen guys can make a 2% profit over months!
How retarded do you have to be to posit this theory? Or no games?

>>96155693
samefag

>>96155866
>Ward against shooting
>Higher movement
>0-1 slayer per 1k with scout or ambush
>Better deathblow
>Runesmiths getting loner

>>96155680
It's honestly the best version of the game. The Old World is a tight system but Armies Project beats it out due to the sheer amount of fluffy items and options, while still being balanced.

>love the army's models
>can't stand their playstyle

what's her name?

>>96156059
God that’s what the old world needs. Fluff. I’m considering third edition Hh more and more the more I play this game. It feels like it’s built for tourney fags.

>>96156042
>>Higher movement
Can't they already do that in the AoI with bugmans cart?

>>96156059
>Armies Project beats it out due to the sheer amount
That's my main gripe with WAP, attempting to port over all the AoS models and a bunch of Armies that really just don't work (albion, amazons, etc) makes it feel like a mess to me

>>96156077
Dwarfs. Love dwarfs, don't like playing them, and everybody hates playing against them.

>>96155680
Only real complaint is the attempt to shoehorn AoS units into ranges that where already healthy that now get weird bloat they didn’t need or you end up with units fighting each other for roles they perfectly filled beforehand.

Marines have the same issue in 40K of I would be happy with one or two options for a role with clear give and take, but once that goes into three to five all trying to muscle the same role it’s just bloat or it’s to everything’s detriment.

>>96155951
Pretty sure that Frogmouth helmets were used in jousting tournaments, not on the battlefield.

>>96156085
I guess, maybe it could stack so you have M5 crazy midgets. It makes sense they would be faster than heavily armored dwarfs anyway

>>96156134
You'd be pretty wrong then. There were regularly used in battles during the great frog war.

>>96155700
>>96156059
Thanks for the feedback, anons; the fluff is one of the main reasons I'm interested.

>>96156132
>shoehorn AoS units into ranges that where already healthy that now get weird bloat they didn’t need or you end up with units fighting each other for roles they perfectly filled beforehand.

That's a bit of a letdown. I mean, units from AoS that help flesh out a faction or fill new roles would be welcome... but having them for the sake of having seems unnecessary.

>>96156100
Shit, one of the reasons my friend and I were planning to get into it was because of the new armies. Are they a bloated mess and unfunny, or just unbalanced?

>>96156182
>Shit, one of the reasons my friend and I were planning to get into it was because of the new armies. Are they a bloated mess and unfunny, or just unbalanced?
nah, they're fine, I just think it bloats the game and they don't really bring anything new to the table for the most part

>>96156132
The gore gruntas and brutes just read to me like orc-flavored ogre models.
As in, you take some ironguts and mournfang mercenaries and represent them with those figures.

>Caledor Archmage in a unit of Dragon Princes
With Impetuous now being Leadership based this doesn't seem that bad right?

>>96156132
This has more sovl than anything that is available in the tow rule book

>>96156182
I mean it would be a pretty easy solution to just not use the AoS stuff you don’t want to.
I’ve not looked at every unit for every faction, but my gut tells me you either end up with a lot of redundant units which is whatever or a lot of objectively better units and somebody has to be the loser

>>96156134
Sure but it's not like the foot knights are exactly historically accurate in their depiction either.

>>96156077
Vampire counts actually. I want hordes of shambling skeletons and zombies who can win combats on their own merit, but the fear mechanics are underpowered in TOW and the basic skeletons and zombies are clearly written to tarpit, not win combats. As such the "hordes of shambling skeletons and zombies" feel like a chore to face rather than a threat.

>>96156206

Not as bad. Is there some kind of spell/magic item type gameplay combo or are you just going for rule of cool?

>>96156100
I can agree with that. I don't bother with the made-up armies but the AoS units are fine, kind of. Just dont't care about them either way but if someone with an AoS army wants to get into the game then I'm not gonna stop them.

>>96156182
The new armies aren't unbalanced, just a bit boring and kind of follow a set pattern. They tend to play like another existing army instead of being creative.

>>96151608 (OP)
Fuck you OP you just electrified my brain with a bunch of ideas
>living auxiliaries
Those desert tribes who live in that one nehekharan city, riding to battle alongside their dead ancestors in the pharoah's army.
>southland auxiliaries
Literal unironic black as night negros working in the service of the undead king, who gives them all the gibs they need, due to their mutual dislike for lizardmen.

>>96155424
>secret police and being ruled by a racially superior caste of dragonblooded men, ruled in turn by dragons and randomly eaten by sapient monkey daemons is not a downside
That's like saying that the empire is mary sueish because current lore has Karl Franz portrayed as a cool guy who is good at running the show.

>>96152333
Orcs
Beastmen
Ogres

Maybe ill finish college before I get another army...hmm.. yeah Ill do exactly that.

>>96156347
>due to their mutual dislike for lizardmen.
Hey fuck u too, buddy.
I say the southlands lizardmen too have their own negro auxiliaries due to their mutual dislike for undead.

Now we have to decide which ones of our dudes are the followers of brobat and which ones of the beespok.

Bahahaha, thanks for turning me on to the WFB Discord after the recent leak trolls. They're even more retarded than us and all believe a guy who claims his friend works in the factory and has seen Vampire Coast minis

Bait, don't reply

>>96152975
Lord of the Rings is dark fantasy. If the heroes didn't win in the end, it would be considered one of the most grim fantasy settings.

>>96156376
Noooo hisss spend your loans on cool plastic guys I don't work for gw

>>96156376
It's a trap anon, after college you get a job and then you don't have time for Warhammer DONT DO IT

>>96156270
I legit proxied and built a list with that in mind and tried It against a friend. I always wanted to make a VC list that wins by attrition but it's impossible to do so.

>>96156388
You're going to feel so dumb when they reveal the Noctilus sculpt

>>96156428
I think it's doable, of you consider multiple screams part of attrition.

>>96156376
>before I get another army
Why get an entire army? Just get a box of a unit you think is neat from the army and if you like it then keep going.

>>96156388
Vampire Coast seems like a natural include eventually though since GW are bending over backwards to avoid cross pollination between AoS and TOW and they can easily fit anywhere in the Old World map by virtue of being coastal raiders not tied to the new world intrinsically.

>>96156450

Notcilus was still Nyklaus von Carstein at the time TOW's set, if he'd even been sired yet. It'll be Harkon and maybe the fat banshee lady

>>96155575
But that's just part of Warhammer lore. The winds being THE way humans do magic only happens after the colleges get propped up. Before that you had elementalists, illusionists, and all other sorts running about.

>>96156290
>Is there some kind of spell/magic item type gameplay combo or are you just going for rule of cool?
I just think it's a neat idea, like a worse version of Archmage on Dragon in a way but still good and now it is a more consistent block since it will be forced to charge much less. I figure most items that work in this would also work just as good or better on a Dragon.

>>96156480
>It'll be Harkon and maybe the fat banshee lady
Fat Banshee Lady Army of Infamy that can take some Bretonnian Knights but with Ethereal instead of Lady's Blessing would be awesome.

>>96156480
>>96156500
Fat Banshee lady was a 100% Total War creation, so I feel like she's least likely. I don't think she's popular much either.

>>96156518

>100% Total War creation

What are the ching chong dragon waifus?

Seriously, everything created for Total War was done by GW and given to CA. Sure, CA probably asked for a fourth Vampire Coast Legendary Lord, but GW will have handed her to them. If there's one consistent thing about GW it's that they're way too protective of their generic IP to let anyone else add to it.

>>96156518
TW basically invented Cathay from whole cloth.
Undead opera singer doesn't sound far fetched. Especially since a fat ghost would let Nu-lore GW make a huge scenic base with all those spectral flames they love.

>>96156376
Both are designed to scam you out of your money , at least with a new army you get something out of it

>>96156388
Vampire coat mini isn't even hard, it would just be old Zombies and Free company militia kits combined
It's what they did in the past(pic)
Still won't happen, but it isn't hard for GW to do

>>96156415
1). You have never actually read LOTR
2). One of Tolkiens core themes is that good always prevails over evil, and that light always banishes the dark

>>96156543
>>96156554
Cathay was created by GW at their request, while Cloystra was made 100% by Creative Assembly and given to them to approve.

>>96156601
>>96156518
They still gave them lore ideas and a very strict leash on what they can and can't add to Total War. it isn't like CA can just make things up, Cloystra was given the seal of approval and canonicity by GW.

>>96156415
>Lord of the Rings is dark fantasy
Bro what

>>96156347
You just described Numas with the Arabians populating the city.

>>96156616
They approve a lot of stuff, they also approved the WFRP supplement for Steam Tanks that said there were only a few ever made, but then tossed that out with TOW and now say there are a lot lot more operating.
Which isn't to say Cloystra isn't canon, but that they're gonna prioritize something they made over what a 3rd party made everytime.

>>96156669
Yes, I am describing Numas, that was the point. A numas kitbash army with arab guys running alongside the skellies.

>>96156616
Cholesterol was created to appeal to Americans.

>>96156694
I think they will prioritize what they think works best for making money and selling models, which soup Armies of Infamy do well, that means more Bretonnian players will be willing to buy into Vampire Coast and vice versa, look at what they are (ALLEGEDLY) doing with Cathay + Marienburg and the Border Princes.

>>96156630
Maybe try reading the books instead of getting your knowledge of it from memes.

>>96156715
Pretty sure cholesterol was invented for bongs to spread on toast with beans

>>96156745
Yeah, which is why of the 4 lord Cloystra seems the least like, I am pretty sure she's the least popular VC lord.

>>96156776
I don't think I'm the one who needs to increase their familiarity with the literature.
Can you explain how Lord of the Rings is "dark fantasy"?

>>96156518
WFRP have a strangely looking like her character.

>>96156817
Because they are both Bretonian Opera singers?

>>96156817
>>96156846
All fat women look the same. Even if they are ghosts.

>>96156887
They're all dead. It's just some of them are dead on the outside.

>>96156480
it'd be just harkon, and an underling of his at best
the lustria supplement described a few, doctor morot and the brine wife, I'm not sure morot is undead, so he wouldn't fit in tow's time, but the brine wife is from the age of 3 emps

>>96156846
Because their outfits are very similar.
(but you could argue it's a traditional Bretonnian opera singer outfit)

>>96156455
Thats kinda gay tho

>>96156798
maybe he means the silmarillion?

>>96156959
Huh. That's actually not a bad character design.

>>96156959
You know, I don't even mind the concept of a banshee opera singer, nor the design, since she looks like the kind of hero model 4th ed would have had.
it's her backstory that's actually retarded
>invited to sing on ulthuan
>a storm blocks her ship
>she mutinies on her own, throws the captain off the ship and takes the ship through the storm
>nobody protests or can fight back, but also the ship is full of knights
>the ship sinks due to the storm
>????
>manaan offers her undeath
>¿¿¿¿
>she now wants to sink ulthuan so the elves can hear her sing at last
please someone make it make sense

>>96156786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NjTWvl8x-U

>>96157031
It sounds like a standard fantasy story

>>96156415
If tolkein is dark fantasy everything is dark fantasy. Dark fantasy doesn't just me "there's bad stuff in the setting"

would people be butthurt if I got recasts?
I really love these ones

>>96154755
>you need some kind of offensive advantage in order to defeat an equal enemy in a defensive position

WOW CRAZY

>>96155180
Someone being a leaker doesn't somehow make them intelligent anon. The only thing leakfag was accurate on was shit everyone already knew

>>96157111
No, why would they be?

>>96155250
Yeah the "legitimate stuff" was GW announcing a slayer and border prince AoI

>>96157064
no, it doesn't, it makes no sense
since when is the god of the sea about necromancy? why does she blame the elves for her sinking? what makes her noteworthy to stromfels in the first place?

things happening so randomly is not how fantasy stories are made, it's how superhero stories are made
>oh she was struck by a radioactive lightning and now she got storm powers and hates weatherforecastman!

>>96157111
They kinda look boring when you have more than 10 of the same models but no, no one would really care. It looks extremely boring though, I must make that clear.

>>96155410
>conviction
>looks inside
>just a different kind of consumption

>>96157111
buying recasts is more ethical than paying the price of the real thing

>>96157111
Before I knew what recasts were I spent 200 bucks on a dreadquake mortar from FW, second hand.

>>96155896
Okay but if there's a healthy scalpers market that's just an even stronger sign that 's popular because you need demand to be that much higher in order for scalpers to make their money back.

>>96157137
You're getting confused. Stromfels is the sea god of sharks and storms, Manaan is the god of the ocean. Some claim that Manaan and stromfels are the same god, especially the cultists of Stromfels, but they are rejected as daemon worshipers by the followers of Manaan.

>>96157170
>Some claim that Manaan and stromfels are the same god
I know, I do, I used both names on purpose
fite me

>>96157159
I’m sure that’s nothing compared to what you’ve given to digital whores.

>>96157111
I always ensure to test my opponents models before a game to make sure I’m not playing against recasts. I used to just sniff but now I drill a little hole and inspect the contents in case it’s a high quality recast coated with real GW plastic on the outside.

>>96157159
>second hand
sorry but that was a recast then

>>96156694
>WFRP supplement for Steam Tanks that said there were only a few ever made, but then tossed that out with TOW and now say there are a lot lot more operating

I'm pretty sure it said there only a few REMAINING not made. There being more 200 years ago would make more sense in that case

>>96157141
>They kinda look boring when you have more than 10 of the same models
no they dont
it looks like a block of pure armor and guns like a living tank

>>96157218
pure block of armor*

I remember one of the steam tanks disappeared after a fire burned down the College of Engineers in Nuln.

>>96157111
>recasts
>help chinese merchant send his children to university or some poor ukranian buy a new house after it got bombed
>Genuine Citadel™ Miniatures
>buy another ferrari for some greedy faggot stakeholder
Recasts are objectively the more moral option, also they are cheaper and look better

>>96157218
I don’t remember them being that posable

>>96156694
>but then tossed that out with TOW and now say there are a lot lot more operating.
tow only said that in a warhammer community article, the actual books keep mentioning that there are only 12 up and running

>>96156997
Maybe? Even it certainly has dark moments, but the entire writing (and lived) philosophy of Tolkien is inherently Christian in that the trials and tribulations against evil are all on a guaranteed trajectory toward a stable plan that ends with the deliverance against evil, the total light at the end of even the darkest tunnels.
Even moments like the Scouring of the Shire are "dark" but are still in line with the idea of the realities of this world and the guarantee of deliverance against it.
Compare that to Warhammer, where the best of people can still be eternally screwed over by Chaos.

>>96157197
Would there even be any way to tell?

>>96157271
duller details, double mould lines, flash where there isn't supposed to be

neither of these is technically proof it it being a recast, since fw casting isn't lf the best quality, resin moulds get ruined and they could make new masters out of cast miniatures
but they're indicative enough features

>>96157271
Not unless you break it. You get quite the odor if you do.

>>96157314
>duller details
Are they though?
Maybe conventional recasts, but 34 micron printers?

>>96157314
>duller details, double mould lines, flash where there isn't supposed to be
thats only true for low quality recasts
any decent recaster will make indistinguishable ones from forge world
t.retard who bought forge world minis before getting recasts

>>96157111
No.
How would they even know unless you went out of your way to tell them?

>>96157389
This. A lot of recasts are better than what you can get from the original caster.

>>96157031
You missed the part were she started to sing to pass the storm, died cursing the god and Stromfels came to her
>“As her lungs filled with seawater, she cursed the elements and the gods – such was her rage at not being able to perform. The singer vowed to return; that death was no impediment and an audience would hear her sing!”
>“I ain’t finished,” said Ghenz, “they say that as she drowned, she finally made her pact. Stromfels came to her, promised immortality and taught her the ways of sea magic in exchange for becoming his emissary, the Siren of the Storm.”

>>96155839
Reminder this is suppose to be "Celestial Forged Armour" which gives a +5 Ward Save.

>>96155347
This isn't meant to be used in the Old World or WHFB, you dipshit.

>>96153540
>>96154127
>>96154374
>>96154439
Check Amazon. You can buy easily buy them at MSRP.

>>96157111
Complete opposite, I'd respect a man more if he brought recasts to the table instead of buying from GW. It is a reveal that immediately signifies a person has some intellect and isn't a drone like the Warhammer fanbase masses

Out of curiousity, how many new unit kits hss gw released so far for tow that aren't characters (or cathay) ?
Only the foot knights and I think new ellyrian reavers right ? Are all the bretonnian knights old kits or are there new ones there ?

>>96157970
Blorc Boss

>>96157970
It’s been overwhelming just rereleases and a compulsory character.
We also know some kits got reworked to go together better or just to get more options, but I don’t think we have a comprehensive list. We know some of the stand out issue kits didn’t get touched.

>>96157866
This. I may even ask them for the recaster.

Do you listen to music while you paint? Podcasts? Watch something in the background?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCoo2vWTkaY

How do you feel about extreme kitbashing?

>>96158388
That's some psychotic shit, in a good way.

>>96157159
your oshi is a slut

my locals dont even carry half the old world lines, they suck so much ass i have to buy straight from GW
does anyone else have this problem? its so annoying

>>96158582
I have the same issue. Recasters, 3rd party, and miniswap/ebay/Facebook etc are your friend.
And occasionally I'll order direct for models I really care to. Like I put a MTO beastmen to get the std bearer.

>>96158582
The “local” GW store doesn’t carry anything beyond the most basic 40K and a pretty healthy AoS range. The old world has a couple started boxes literally on the floor near the register.
The generic hobby store just down the road carries way more of every line and at a discount. It’s a state over, but my friends and I make one or two trips a year

>>96158582
Can't you order online with a discount?

>>96156270
You can now, since infantry get outnumber and press of battle. Take skeletons with a screaming banner and a wight with helm of command.
Or Play 6e.
>>96156388
>>96156470
>>96156480
Hope so dudes, I’ve got 3500 points of coast awaiting that day.
Can run them as tk in the meantime, and zombies/bats pull double duty with vc but I miss bloated corpses and carronades. Used to run like 4 bloated corpses purely as skirmishing redirectors in 6th.
Also wheeling out a carronade from behind a block to grapeshot some fuckers was amazing.

>>96158868
>>96158868
>>96158868
>>96158868
New

>>96155096
iirc he had been working with GW for near a decade, but this was his first kit for Forge World.

>>96158646
Did you get yours yet?
No word on mine yet its already been a month

>>96152640
The socio in the socioeconomics is for social and i think that a mass immigration set a deep social condition. Like the latinos in the US or the African in Europe.

>>96152333
Ogres and goblins
Goblins in a world without Orcs and dorfs would eventually develop into wacky Brooklyn accented WoW goblins

>>96151608 (OP)
>TQ
Probably vampire counts, but of course this is far into the future. Still, I do occasionally get greener grass syndrome sometimes and I occasionally stalk eBay for 5th/6th vc minis. I slept on a 30 dollar metal zombie pirate and even though my lads would have been standard spirit Halloween spooks, I still kinda wish I snagged that mini.

Anyway, something I'm working on. Been taking a break from painting so this pic is old, but afterwards I'm gonna start painting again. Still mentally prepping myself for the horses of clanrats I'm gonna have to batch paint.
The pic itself is a the first mini I painted for my army, stripped and repainted.