Should Konami hard reboot Yu-Gi-Oh?
The game is completely dead and bandaid solutions like Rush and Speed duels didn't work.
I think that just saying "The 30 year old game is over, we're making a new anime based on Takahashi's manga and a new game to go with it" is the only thing that could help the brand recognition actually sell cards instead of just continuing the linear decay.

>>96153691 (OP)
Imagine paying money for cards in 2025.

That being said, I might play an online game based on the original rules with none of this synchro summon shit or pendulums shit or whatever other gimmicks ruined the game even harder than Pokemon.

>>96153798
Synchro is -fine- but if fusions and rituals weren't so bad it never would have been necessary

>>96153798
Synchro is fine, and probably should have been the default. Link summoning is too easy, and I think is the real problem with postmodern YGO's speed.

>>96153987
Link Summoning, if it had to be done at all, should have been limited by the arrows, both in terms of effects and in terms of who it can link to

>>96153691 (OP)
my revenge porn fantasy is that they collab with wizards of the coast and the dweebs get angry that their pure japanese IP got "woke"

>>96153987
I'm not sure if this has been proposed before but my solution to the fusion problem is this:
In your main phase 2, you can do contact fusion to fusion summon for your extra deck. No polymerization required. You can only do main phase 1 contact fusion if you use polymerization or something like it
Also I'd have way more fusion monsters use generic materials

>>96153691 (OP)
I think the game needs a reboot but Konami shouldn't be the ones to do it. The game needs a company that actually gives a shit for it to work

>>96154075
I can't think of any company that could be trusted to without a doubt knock it out of the park. Konami is as good as anyone

>>96153691 (OP)
No. The only reason yugioh is a thing is because autists saw the cartoon 25 years ago and, being autists, have never let go of it. Rebooting the game would alienate them, and there would be no one to take their place because even autistic kids these days don't do anything but watch tiktok. They don't care about cartoons or games. Rebooting the game would kill it completely.

>>96154198
>Rebooting the game would alienate them
Zero people who watched the cartoon 25 years ago are still playing. They occasionally buy a retro reprint set and that's it. Yu-Gi-Oh is a dead game
And yes everyone born after 2005 is retarded and you were born in le wrong generation and kids these days just charge they phone and eat hot chip

>>96154380
Im over 30 and still play and most of our playerbase is over 30. But yes, it is mostly dead outside of the retro formats. We do still buy newer cards for our old decks when they come out but more or less playing the "Modern" version of the game is out of the question and we mainly play our own little kitchen table games inbetween commander nights.

>>96153691 (OP)
No, and you're an idiot for thinking so. Accept that things will have to end at some point.

>>96154136
Nah, look at what they did with Duel Links and Rush Duel. Both were soft reboots intended to simplify the game and both are hilariously fucked compared to their original design because Konami devs make dogshit design choices to push product

>>96153798
I don't mind any of the summoning mechanics, what really destroyed this game beyond salvation was handtraps being invented, and every new card afterwards having to be designed around them.

>>96155063
This is a big one. There's no reason for every archtype to have a field spell that searches or a monster that searches anyone in the archetype on summon or effect.
We also have the Mulcharmies, which are basically Maxx C stand ins, and they will lead to Konami making more 1 card combo engines like Fiendsmith because the Mulcharmies will be the new limiting factor for card design going forward.

>>96155704
The fifty million negates also don't help either.

>>96155715
Yeah and they all went from traps to hand traps because they again balanced around them. Turn 1 got stupider and stupider.
For reference, 2015 was around the last time the game was "decent." People will talk about how stupid Pendulums were yes, but that was the last time, right before ABC, Ash Blossom and Zoo, where you could put together dumb deck ideas and a lot of the older cards were slower but still viable.
I remember Breakers of Shadow in 2016 being one of the biggest jumps in that era. We went from Breakthrough Skill, Veiler, Traphole nightmare, and even fiendish being used to stop Nekroz of Trishula to Solemn Strike being the staple of the format for stopping monster effects and summons.
Ash blossom came out at same time and my friend was able to win locals by being the only guy with 3 of them. Metalfoes format. Metalfoes were so slow that Ash was a turn skip for them 9/10 times when they went to pop scales for searches. Now, Ash more or less takes maybe 1 ED monster off the end board combo in todays meta.

>>96154963
The "soft reboot" aspect is the problem. Couldn't retool old cards like Black Magician and Blue Eyes to make them relevant

>>96153691 (OP)
No. Nothing you said is true, there's no reason to do it.

Hopefully that helped.

>>96156152
Yup Yu-Gi-Oh is definitely super popular and selling just as well as it always has and no one is cancelling tournaments

>>96156155
Attendance to tournaments increased from last year, so its is popular. Selling has multiple layers to check to actually confirm how's doing.

None of the stuff OP suggested helps because the franchise doesn't need a soft reboot like Rush. Rush is doing fine in Japan but you know what's doing better? That's right, regular yugioh, the same old game we know.

The only thing the franchise needs is a new anime that follows the rules of the regular game, not Rush, so it becomes even better to sell/advertise/growth along with the franchise.

The proof for that is Yugioh 5D's being recasted in Japan got viewership numbers so high that it outclassed actual airing animes. An almost 15 year old show broadcast did that for multiple episodes. So there's a need for a breath of fresh air, and a good, new anime can definetely provide that. It it somehow links with Master Duel as well, then Konami hits jackpot.

Most of the times people suggest a reboot is because they're people that don't feel connected with the franchise anymore, mainly because they liked playground yugioh, which was never how the game was like >>96153798 is. Which is the result of people just being out of touch/ignorant about things and not wanting to learn.

Outside of being that, reboot is not a definitive solution, otherwise, Cardfight Vanguard would be the #1 cardgame, but it is now on his 3rd generation, being rebooted twice, and barely surviving.

>>96156271
Game's still by most of the fanbase's admission very newbie unfriendly, both in terms of complexity and in terms of general behavior. It's not that hard understanding the difference between Synchro and XYS and Pendulums and whatever if you're given the room to breathe. But most don't get that chance, with how insanely sweaty and tryhard the long-time dedicated ones get.

>>96156345
It's newbie unfriendly if the newbie wants to learn from the get go instead of learning the ropes and going step-by-step. For how much shit Master Duel gets, it's a very good game to learn how to learn the mechanics and how to play.

Besides mechanics, Yugioh is a reading game. Reading the card explains the card basically. And outside some very especific rullings or intrinsec interactions, all you need is to go on a simulator with a decklist and try it out how stuff works.

>>96156413
Oh, the game itself is nowhere near as complicated as people act like it is. I mean more playing with sweaty neckbeards who take ten minutes to set up an unbreakable board of multi negate boss monsters, or the kind that instantly kill you through excess burn damage their first turn, or the guys who spend twenty minutes cycling through their Exodia before you get to play at all. It’s kind of hard to get a feel for the game when you have a starter deck and everyone else is playing a tier 1 deck.

>t. former master duel player

>>96156475
It isn't a matter of it being too confusing for people to understand it's that the mechanics required to win don't make for fun gameplay

>>96156271
>playground yugioh, which was never how the game was like
is an immensely lazy strawman. Whenever someone doesn't think game is fun, you come up with the same tired boogeyman. That's what a strawman is. Look up "strawman" in the dictionary and there's a screencap of this post.
>DM - GX - Synchro/Xyz format/cardpools
Is it unthinkable that someone prefers those than the current game? Do they all fall under the umbrella?
>early to mid Duel Links
Also existed and made a lot of bucks.
>Speed Duel boosters
It exists, didn't make a lot of bucks.
>any video game sponsored by Konami
Presumably doesn't count since it's single-player, not a big deal since the above exists.
>ignorant about things and not wanting to learn
Anyone notice the irony? It's no wonder this gets called tryhard. This fool refuses to learn the history of the game, early variations of it, there's even a game design aspect to it- there were rulesets for different games in the magazine itself, for example, DDM, before DM stood out, makes a boogeyman label to remain ignorant of everything before accusing others of doing that and talking about how only a single game exists-surely that'll remain the same in 10 years.

>>96156114
Not really but also sorta. Black Magician and Blue-Eyes were fine in DL until they were powercrept out by shit like Sacred Phoenix. That game was peak nostalgiabait and then Konami saw how much profit it was making so they encouraged whales even more by upping the power level, and later worlds have a higher power level by default because the anime writers can't come up with anything more exciting than Ace monsters slapping each other's ducks. The same shit is happening in the Rush Duel anime but targeting Japan

>>96153798
The original ruleset except instead of needing a specific card to fusion summon you could just do it as part of the normal rules.
Hell, make it a swift action or w/e to add a layer of interaction

My dream would be if they made new sets but for old eras. Like a new set with DM or GX power level and themes. With tons of stupid new normal monsters, of course.

>no guys yugioh is FUN because the content creators pro player youtuber say it is but it's also dying because casuals and timmy dont buy boxes and resellers aren't making money
>have you seen ATTENDANCE AT EVENTS? that means the game is FUN
>guys what we need is a new ANIME to get kids to play this FUN game
>pls buy the fucking cardboard and come watch me jerk off all over the table for 2 hours
Sorry i'm playing my goat format adjacent Zoa deck on the kitchen table by myself

I draft the old DM reprint sets with my buddies, it's fun but a little clunky. The game needs a good limited format, that's all.

Why is it so hard to buy OCG cards? The only seller online worth a damn charges an arm and a leg for even commons.
It's so annoying because any other major cardgame has widely available JP cards.

>>96154025
Man Yugioh had a main character genderspecial way before Magic did in Yubel
>inb4 its okay when japs do it because intense mental gymnastics

>>96158401
Sorry anon, but if there's no dick on that chick, then it's just a crazy bitch waifu

>>96156345
It's newbie unfriendly because the rulebook only covers the most basic of cards and there's no way to tell you about stuff like "These Stales Exist" (especially for handtraps or boardbreakers which are unofficial terminology and therefor hard to look up) or "How to Properly Build a Deck" without knowing someone or looking up a guide.

>>96156413
>For how much shit Master Duel gets, it's a very good game to learn how to learn the mechanics and how to play.
I agree, if you add the caveat that the various Solo Modes also count as tutorials. Not even all of them are neccessary, but doing even a chunk gives way better knowledge than the very basic tutorials give.

And it ain't like not completing them gives you nothing, since you do get free currency for doing them.

>>96158372
Blame Upper Deck Entertainment cheaping out on card quality way harder than Konami ever did, even before you account for them making "official" counterfeits. It's not merely a matter of needing to have a translation on-hand, there's distinct differences in card stock, backing, and the like that makes OCG cards illegal to play in the TCG regions because of how distinct they are. Thus, way less of a market for sellers to deal in them.

>>96158569
I like old Upper Deck cards more than Konami equivalents. The cards are softer and the colors are more consistent across sets. I've opened packs and structure decks recently where cards of the same type have wildly different brightness from the same print run with some cards being hilariously dark.
It's also easy more common for cards to be damaged out of the pack now, like cards being scratched and covered in grit.
Neither one matches OCG quality but Upper Deck was way more consistent in print quality and their only real downside was that the cardstock was lower weight

>>96158401
given how Yubel plays samsara lotus, you could say that she's a reference to hindu mythology where female and male aspects are balanced, embodiying the totality that transcends duality.
she represents both the light of destruction and the gentle darkness and represents jaden reconciling all his contradictions and maturing as a person to obtain neo "wise"man.