What is the best system to play as a samurai?

D&D

>>96154076
what edition?

>>96154073 (OP)
I like Legend of the Five Rings, but you'd probably prefer Bushido if you're more about playing a down to earth samurai over a weeaboo interpretation of it.

>>96154276
Oriental Adventures.

The real answer is Wizardry.

>>96154073 (OP)
Coin toss between L5R 3 and 4 ed.
If you are for edgy stuff, try Righteous Blood, Ruthless Blades. It's technically a wuxia system, but still can handle chambara stuff

>>96154073 (OP)
The Blossoms Are Falling

>>96154342
>>96154343
>>96154433
>>96155404
Thanks

>>96154342
The thing about Bushido is it doesn't spend enough time on the poetry writing, the moon viewing parties, or the flower arranging. Both games have these various skills like painting and poetry and all that so you can do those typical samurai things but Bushido never emphasises it.

Bushido is still plenty weeaboo though, with ki and magic spells and ninja and legendary beings/monsters. It's more like the magical realism version of Japan where L5R is full on fantasy. It's like Last Samurai or 1980s Shogun levels of weeaboo compared to how weeaboo that Matt Damon film Great Wall would be had it been Japanese rather than Chinese based.

>>96154342
Mantis can get pretty down to earth.
I once played one who just wanted to fuck off and go fishing.
Surprisingly easy to get along with higher ranking people when your 'meaningful gift' are things like, the rod I caught my first fish in your territory with. Or the fish itself. Or a hand made lure.
At the end of the caimpaign he got a bunch of sailors and buggered off to the lands south of the demon lands to start a colony.

>>96157876
>The thing about Bushido is it doesn't spend enough time on the poetry writing, the moon viewing parties, or the flower arranging.
A lot of that shit came post-sengoku period when the samurai sat around in their assets and had nothing to do due to peacetime.

>>96154073 (OP)
Gurps
Just kidding it's d&d 3e (not the inferior 3.5). It has the best samurai class, very authentic.

>>96157876
Sounds great, never ran into people who actually knew that shit. Hell, even try in make it up on the spot, that's fine. But when players copypasting Hatsune Miku songs, googling flower arrangements, uploading pics of chicks in fucking qipaos or other nonjap shit, it's really disillusioning. L5R isn't about samurai. It's about players jerking off all their asian fetishes. Or worse, playing a samurai who doesn't samurai at all, and that's what makes them special xD
>source: was a GM and player for several L5R games since 2012. None of them ever got any better.

>>96154343
I think Zeb Cook was cooking something interesting with his split between town and adventure activities and the birthrights and honor. Never got to actually play a game, but it seemed like there was something interesting there even if, like a lot of AD&D stuff, it was clunky in practice.

>>96157952
Brainlet. Most forms of sociability that persisted into the Edo period were created during the Warring States.

>>96154276
3.5 has an excellent Samurai class

>>96159462

>3.5 samurai
>Uses two weapon style that no samurai usually did
>Even on open battlefields

No spears and no muskets means no good game for samurai.

>>96157952
I was writing facetiously but thanks for taking me seriously. :) yes, a smiley on 4chan
While samurai of the Edo period might have had to sit around twiddling their thumbs between counting beans or other such bureaucratic tasks (now I wish I'd added accountancy as a fourth item on my list), and samurai were admonished to know peaceful arts by the Shogun himself, people of the time knew artistic pursuits were an ancient practice. As promulgated by the Tokugawa shogunate
>From old the rule has been to practice the arts of peace on the left hand and the arts of war on the right; both must be mastered.
>Laws for the Military Houses
Popular belief says Lady Murasaki started writing her novel in the Moon Viewing Pavillion of Ishiyamadera; she had Genji hold a moon viewing party in Katsura. Waka were composed at these tsukimi.
In the Kamakura period waka had become a little more egalitarian, still upper class but lower ranks of the upper class found them hugely popular.
Shotetsu, born into a samurai family during the Muromachi, displayed a precocious ability for poety as a child. He became a zen monk in his early adulthood and spent a good deal of time teaching waka to samurai and to the shogun. Lamentably, a fire in his house destroyed both his house and his life's poetic work, 27 000 waka. I wonder, if not for that house fire would haiku now be so famous or instead would our Anglophone teachers be committing a crime against humanity by forcing us to write 31 syllables and calling it a waka.

>>96159450
>created during the Warring States
Sorry my friend, but you're a little bit off with that date. One of the reasons I mentioned Shotetsu is that he died very early in Sengokujidai which reinforces that samurai poetry writing is old. The few practices that I mentioned all arise no later than Heian or Kamakura, a couple of centuries or more before Japan's Warring States period. I didn't date ikebana above but it's pre-Warring States too.

>>96159450
>during the Warring States
>Warring States
The fuck pre-imperial Chinese history has to do with samurai 2000 years later, you deft cunt?

>>96158843
Oriental Adventures was unabashedly a free for all Asian mishmash kit bash but for all that it gets a bit of undeserved hate for being D&D, we never had the problems you describe with L5R and L5R was a bit more serious. All of what you wrote was heartbreaking but the non-samurai samurai takes the cake. I had weeb tendencies as a mid-teen but studying a bit of history and reading some of the literature cured me. Sympathy my man.

>>96160007
If that's meant to be a joke, try harder. If it's bait, hope you're happy you got your (you). If you're being serious, sorry to hear that.

>>96154073 (OP)
What do you want out of it specifically?

>>96160007
The Japanese were LARPing as the Three Kingdoms (different period, I know) during the Sengoku Jidai. Hence the constant comparison of Nobunaga to CaoCao

>>96154073 (OP)
The roll & keep system for L5R 5e is arguably the best game in print. And it also reset a lot of the retarded fuckery in the setting.

>>96159462
3.5 is a great system, better than most and the best D&D has ever been, but if you must weeb, use OA and Dragonmag material for the love of God.

>>96160007
>>96160141
In fact the name of both eras in Japanese (三国時代 (sangoku jidai) and 戦国時代 (sengoku jidai)) are just one kanji away from being identical and that’s deliberate. They picked the name sengoku specifically to harken back to the sangoku period (three kingdoms era) of China. A lot of countries in that part of Asia would jerk of the ancient Chinese in the same way Europeans did for Greek and Roman shit.

>>96160087
>>96160141
>>96160307
>I am retarded and also a samefag
Is taco your favorite Italian food, too?

>>96162279
Now I want to try Italian style tacos. God damn you.

>>96154073 (OP)
Sake is pretty good for a Samurai, Ninja and funny enough Pirate

>>96160097
>sword in the back.

>>96157876
>is it doesn't spend enough time on the poetry writing, the moon viewing parties, or the flower arranging.
Samurai are uncouth provincial thugs incapable of appreciating the finer things in life.
This post was made by the Kuge gang.

>>96168034
Genuine, long, and hearty kek. Thanks anon.

>>96154073 (OP)
GURPS.

>>96168246
Moonlit snow is wasted of the roofs of the poor...