>oh wow, I can’t wait to play DnD and see what vibrant—-
>Entire party is Tieflings either edgy daddy issues except for you

What is your reaction

>>96155599 (OP)
>Welp, it seems like a serious case of mismatching expectations. I'll have to pass then. Have fun, guys.

>>96155599 (OP)
Laugh at them all as I roll up an Aasamir who loves their angel mom and Paladad

>>96155599 (OP)
I generally ban planar creatures as PC races. Assimar and Genasi, too. I'm sorry, but it doesn't work for the games I'm interested in running. I like a more medieval version of D&D, where there's still wonder around magic. Even when using a setting like Forgotten Realms, all you've gotta do is tone it down, and explain it your way. It works just fine for a less... Marvel superheroes style of D&D.

>>96155618
*tips fedora*

Gentleman

since i only play with my buddies, i sit down and have a great time with our tiefling party. Im sure the DM will build a killer narrative backdrop out if this setup

>>96155599 (OP)
Yeah we're the world's best roleplaying game and the best name we can come up with is... fucking "thiefling."
All DnD settings are so cringe

>>96155634
Why would you ban a core race option juat because you dont like it lol. The player has a right to play anything RAW.

>>96155710
If you are fine with the DM banning ERP at the table because nobody wants to sit there while two players tongue each others assholes in game then there’s no reason to care about a single race being banned desu

>>96155636
>Gentleman
Are you actually shaming someone with the wisdom to recognize they're not going to have fun in a group?

>>96155599 (OP)
I don't play Pronouns & Wheelchair Ramps so I don't have this problem.

>>96155599 (OP)
I play the male human fighter in the party, though I'm disappointed in the lack of variety just like I would be with a party of all humans.

>>96155773
Idt ive ever encountered a fully human party

In my experiences many newer players find humans boring

>>96155599 (OP)
>guys why is dnd woke now #46674
How many times must we have this thread? Just move on with your life, we know its woke.

>>96155599 (OP)
>OP groggily wakes up in his musty basement, salty tears encrusting his flabby cheeks.
>Finally, his tugboat his arrived. Now to spend it on chicken tendies....
>and WoTC's latest new PRODUCT.
>He salivates at the thought of the latter... will today be the day when WoTC has finally owned the libtards once and for all?
>OP orders another several hundred dollar box set from Amazon, his consoom boner protruding a mighty inch from his stained undies
>He spends the time waiting ranting about some faggot sharing a drawing of his tranny tieflings or some shit on Twitter
>His diabetic heart skips a beat as he hears someone arriving at his doorstep
>There is a box on his doormat, and in the street there is the amazon deliveryman running away from the smell of his decrepit house at mach speed
>"Finally... All my bitching about D&D has come to fruition..." he mutters to himself "now they will have prohibited niggers and trannies from being in, nay, PLAYING the game with their Seal of Corporate Approval..."
>OP opens the box, and sees a genderqueer elf warlock getting his centipede infested amhole licked by some pink cow hipster on the cover, as they announced on twitter last week and the week before that
>"NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!" he howls, flab undulating like the atlantic ocean as he shakes his fists in the sky "HOW COULD THEY DO THIS!!! CURSE YOU TRANNIES!!!!!!"
>That evening he douses the box set with gasoline in his backyard and burns it, tears dripping down his fat face
>the fire flickers through his window as he miserably nibbles on cold tendies
>he spends the time he could have playing D&D or homebrewing a campaign that would his tastes whining on 4chan about people with whom he will never play games with
>even if said people existed outside his imagination, they would ironically be enjoying life better than he is
>the springs in the mattress squeal as he plants his fat mass on it,
>and the cycle repeats again

>>96155779
How many times must you respond?

>>96155737
Yes, not playing tabletop games saves you from a made up problems

>>96155599 (OP)
>play Limp Bizkit discography that I have illegaly downloaded on winamp
>In this campaign we will be roleplaying RAPE, BEATING OF WOMEN AND ONLY WOMEN and GRAPPLE checks from 3.5e

>>96155599 (OP)
>specifically makes up a scenario to get angry about it
why are you like this?

>>96155661
>thiefling
afaik, that only became "viral" because BG3 has tieflings who are thieves, so even Larian used it.

>>96155815
Every time i see one. Its the exact same thing every single time but slightly reworded. "Oh dnd is woke now, look at this tiefling fanart, isnt that horrible" yes, and? like what's the point of repeating what everyone already knows? I saw these threads since 2018 and it only got worse after the pandemic, since then theres been one at least every week. Why tolerate this? Nothing good or interesting comes out of these threads besides your usual malding about communists, transsexuals or jews for 300 posts.

>>96155710
>juat because you dont like it
I do not have a reason beyond that. That is the reason. I strongly dislike it, I don't want it in my games, so I ban it.

>>96155849
>>specifically makes up a scenario to get angry about it
>why are you like this?
Engagement. Obvious culture war bait is the only way they can raise traffic for that sweet sweet ad revenue.

>>96155599 (OP)
>hell yeah easy chicks
start with the wallflower with the snake there maybe

World building is very hard. Both making a setting interesting to interact and showing players how to have fun with it. Vampire did this pretty well, have each class be a clique and include how they feel about the other ones, now the player has a role play shorthand and has been informed that there are built in mechanics to be pretend toxic to each other.

5e was expected to be a universal system even though the team was well aware that universal systems always underperform. So they didn't say anything but made FR the tacit setting, truting at some point they'd be allowed to develop FR and complete the pack behind WotC's back. They didn't or couldn't or failed at it, it doesn't matter. The end result is a fighting game aproach. Most players have no clue about cultures, countries, lore, or any role play aid that would make them pick anything, but that dude is blue and that one is an orange dragon dude and I prefer green so I'm checking the dude lady's move set hoping to make her my main. That's it. "Freakshit" is popular because people have something to make an opinion about. Notice how the people complaining about freakshit never really expand on humans, they have no reasson to play one outside of not being a weirdo, it's the exact same fighting game or beat'em up logic.

>>96155599 (OP)
Tieflings are my favorite race so I am among friends.

>>96155795
we really need an updated A Confederacy of Dunces

>>96155599 (OP)
I roll up a bard who makes fun of them and insists on playing wingman because they obviously just need to get laid

>>96155916
Which is your preferred tiefling lineage?

>>96156069
2e.

When Tieflings (and Aasimar) weren't a homogeneous race, and no two looked alike.

>>96156069
I go with Infernal as its the best mechanically.

When making Tieflings, their appearance is however I want them to look regardless of lineage.

>>96155599 (OP)
Show up with a Human Fighter who's the third son of a fourth son of some minor noble family. I am here merely to help some of the common folk out like my father and his father have.

I will then attempt to eagerly follow the main quest.

>>96155599 (OP)
I hate faggots as much as the next guy but playing themed parties always ends up being a lot of fun. Whether it's a full party of tieflings, of humans, of rogues or of religious crusaders, it tends to naturally create a good party dynamic.

>>96155599 (OP)
Roll up a silver fox Paladin daddy who constantly points out their moral failings.

>>96155599 (OP)
This is what happens when you don't roll for your character randomly at the start of the campaign. The more time you give to your players, the bigger chance they'll play OC Donut Steel.
But hey, it's entirely WotC's fault for giving darkvision to everyone except for humans and githzerai.

>>96156069
Chthonic > the others

>>96155889
>"Freakshit" is popular because people have something to make an opinion about. Notice how the people complaining about freakshit never really expand on humans, they have no reasson to play one outside of not being a weirdo, it's the exact same fighting game or beat'em up logic.

People complain about "Freakshit" because it tends to be hollow. Those who choose to play "Freakshit" choose it because they want to come off as being special or different and then don't like it when they are not accepted. They tend to end up playing a human in a Tiefling or Firbolg costume rather than playing an actual Firbolg or Tiefling. To keep with your fighting game analogy they play the fancy looking character that turns out to just be another shoto clone.

Love me tieflings.

>>96156514
yeah, totally hollow. There's just not that much to fill that space if you don't sit down for a long while with the DM and that parituclar DM has some interest in doing something that is actually playable. You can play them as re-skinned humans because humans don't have anything either. There are some cultures in the PHB but those are ignored and kinda hard to implement for a DM that doesn't care about FR. In a game set in 1600's Europe an italian, a spaniard and a briton would be totally different characters to play, from fight styles to cloting or meals they'd cook. If you wanted that experience in 5e you'd need a DM that's putting a ton of love and care into their craft and they could get burne at any point by players used to culture not being a thing.

Elves and dwarves have some stuff out of pop culture, they are popular among people who want to actually role play for that reasson. But I don't think it's a good thing that you need to tacitly agree on the most luke warm vanilla of possible settings. Tieflings at least have a connection with devils and demons, you could do something with that if you wanted. Dragonborn are probably the worst our of the PHB because there is no pop culture reference and I don't think any manual does anything with them. What even are they? Where do they live? What do they eat? How does the world see them?

Everything after the first Volo book is just re-skinned humans. For me plasmoids are the worst because they are an absolutely alien thing and there is no explanation of where they come from or what their deal is. Are they a failed experiment? Do they come from an all plasmoid world? Are they predators? Do they build houses or live in caves? Is each one a different existence that happened to evolve in the same direction? How do you role play something like that without constant exposition?

>>96155599 (OP)
>heh this is why I stick to Age of Sigmar

>>96155599 (OP)
I roll up with my fey druid

>>96155599 (OP)
Obviously i roll up a fat middle aged barbarian

>>96156175
Winged is the best mechanically

>>96155710
Rulebooks are suggestions.

>>96155599 (OP)
>Play a Silver Fox DILF Paladin who becomes the groups surrogate father
Die dramatically at the hands of the main antagonist midway through the campaign then play the littlest shit edgelord who they feel obligated to raise right because the Paladin entrusted him to them

>>96155599 (OP)
>I can’t wait to play DnD and see what vibrant—-
What fucking world do you live in where RPGs work remotely like this?

>>96155599 (OP)
Well, since tieflings don't exist in the setting that my group and I play in, I'm forced to assume that they're fucking with me. I set aside whatever notes I had prepared and improvise something silly like Iron Chef but in Hell. They are then reminded to have their actual characters ready for next week.

>>96155599 (OP)
Yeah, so, anyway I just started smiting.

>>96155710
>The player has a right to play anything RAW.
I have an entire, custom-typeset PHB that includes significant revisions to the game's core rules. Every race, class, subclass, spell, feat, and other character option that has been published in official material has been reviewed for inclusion and revision. You only need one six-hundred-page book instead of five books that you use less than a hundred pages out of each.

As a result of the significant revisions, anything that does NOT appear in the handbook isn't really part of the same ruleset. I don't ban a damn thing--I just only bother to include things that are worth my time.

I choose to play a human fighter that hates daemons and daemon adjecent things such as ti*flings

>>96155599 (OP)
Remake my character as a tiefling with edgy daddy issues so we can all be kids of the same promiscuous Lord of Hell, creating a fun gimmick for the campaign and giving the GM natural plot hooks to engage everyone at the table.

Unrealistic scenario, though, because I don't play D&D and certainly never look forward to playing it.

>>96157961
No joke, I really want to see that

>>96158067
Here's the public-facing version that removes the distinctive homebrew races and other setting details, slimming it down from 621 pages to a mere 592:
https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/-VVNGbAUyyHU

I ought to get around to putting in some generic nonhuman races, but I've been dragging my feet on writing the setting-neutral fluff blurbs for them.

>>96156821
Describe your druid's husband.

>>96158400
8' tall, muscular, HYUGE cock, standing right behind you.

>>96155599 (OP)
Have fun playing the straight man in a party of edgelords, if they have a sense of humor they'll enjoy it too.
>>96155636
How is that a fedora thing that's basically the most reasonable and mature response you can have to a group you don't blend with

>>96158213
theres a small typo in the column header where you forgot to change water into food for food needs per day

>>96155710
The player has a right to play anything made available by the GM.

>>96155599 (OP)
Why are tieflings the go-to race for queers?

>>96155599 (OP)
Is it edgy if I play a tiefling paladin who resents his existence and hopes that if he throws himself into hell, figuratively and literally, that his god will forgive him and cleanse his bloodline of demonic taint?

Really I just want to play a self-loathing and borderline suicidal paladin.

>>96155599 (OP)
Easy way to fix tieflings. Require that they roll on the randomised features table from Planescape. Remove the 4e/5e normalised Tieflings that all have the same physical features and are generally aesthetically bland 'safe devils'. The most contentious part of Tieflings isn't explicitly their aesthetic but the kinds of players who gravitate towards playing those aesthetics. If you're unable to be enough of an adult to selectively cull the people you play with because you find them insufferable, present them with options that curtail the things you dislike about them.

If you don't like someone who always plays a dick-ass thief that exclusively steals from his own party members and will always take the opportunity to assassinate the party healer and swap teams to side with the campaign villain, stop letting them play the thing that enables them to be a shitheel.

>>96155710
>The player has a right
Good joke.

>>96155599 (OP)
Assuming we're talking actual tieflings and not whatever homogenized pastel technicolor thing is going on in the image you posted, I roll up a tiefling. Probably a Rogue/Cleric of Mask or something.

>>96159600
>Is it edgy if I play a tiefling paladin
Yes, but also bland and uninteresting. You'd think that edge would be incompatible with bland, but the modern tiefling has proven that to be wrong.

>>96155710
You don't have any rights at the table, commie. You can leave whenever you want.

>>96155623
What is this, a screencap for ants?

>>96159023
because of the inherent perceived victimhood. Oh woe is me everyone is mean to me when I haven't even done anything etc. Aligns well with "queer" types and their brigade of identity politics

>>96156514
Freakshit is an astroturfed term invented by nogames for culture war purposes.

>>96155599 (OP)
Not gonna lie I'd mating press the teal chick on the right

>>96155599 (OP)
>they're all different colors
what are the odds? hate this forced diversity bullshit

>>96155599 (OP)
I roll a good aligned tiefling who comes from a stable functioning family.

>>96159023
because of the victim culture as the other anon said but also because they're super customizable unlike drow and other dindu races. they're also not racial coded by default so you can make them look like blue niggers if you want
they're the perfect race for people whose personality is their hair color
In my experience these types also have short term affection for characters, so they get bored of their super awesome tiefling OC in like 3 sessions and will try to get xir killed or ask to play another character (or simply ghost the campaign when they see they're not getting enough precious attention)

>>96156514
>People complain about "Freakshit" because it tends to be hollow. Those who choose to play "Freakshit" choose it because they want to come off as being special or different and then don't like it when they are not accepted.
This is very true in my experience, but from a gameplay perspective and not a roleplaying perspective. People were so bored by 5e they were looking for anything to make their characters interesting to play.

>>96156821
>used goods
>>96158407
>anon made a cuckquean character
Very bizarre, but to be expected from /vt/rannies

>>96155710
Tieflings aren't a core race.
The only core races are human elf halfelf halfling gnome dwarf and halforc
The DnD 5e handbook is not legitimate.
These modern gay faggot developers like Crawford and Merals are usurpers and god will punish them.

>>96160288
Dubs of truth

>>96160072
Or maybe some peoplejust have different preferences and dislike the move away from classic fantasy archetypes, you fucking theory of mind-lacking autist.

>>96160337
You can dislike something without falling for an astroturfed psyop, retard. I personally detest tieflings, but I also know anyone using the term freakshit is either a retard or a disingenuous faggot.

>>96160364
Correct. I hate tieflings and ban them (>>96155634) because I don't think planars have any place as PC races in the way I run most D&D games. I mean if we were playing planescapes, sure. But I want the planes to be wondrous. For most people to not know what the gods really are. For powerful magic and other worlds to be distant and rumored and frightening, terrible things. Not the place your aunt goes on vacation during summer break from teaching classes at Hogwarts. I don't like that ultra-mega level of fantasy where everything is so fantastical that the greatest magics are barely more notworthy than a conversation about the weather. And you can have it in D&D by simply being the GM and telling the story you want to, and not using the things that you don't wanna use. It's got jack shit to do with identity politics. It's about playing games.

>>96160246
>anon hears a character's spouse is hot
>immediately assumes it's cuck shit
Anon, hot people can be monogamous.

>>96155721
>>96158657

Because that isn't what OP wants, he WANTS you to be angry and start fights, he doesn't want you to be reasonable and move on from a table that isn't for your tastes he wants you to be angry that the table exists in the first place

>>96160364
Just because someone uses the term freakshit doesn't mean they've falllen for any sort of psyop, bro. It's just a useful term that adequately describes the style of party they don't like. Why would've they use it?

>>96156533
I like your tieflings too.

>>96160612
Because different anons have different ideas of what constitutes "freakshit", since I've seen people extend it to the various elves and halflings before.

>>96155599 (OP)
Why is this board 50% dogshit ragebait? And why do people fall for it?

>>96160612
>Just because someone uses the term freakshit doesn't mean they've falllen for any sort of psyop, bro
It literally does, since the term only exists for culture war faggotry purposes.

>>96160612
>It's just a useful term that adequately describes the style of party they don't like.
For starters, it's just a more politically charged version of special snowflake, so you'd only be using it if you're an agitator or a newfag who doesn't know better.

Secondly, it's so setting-dependent it's utterly meaningless. An all-human party would be "freakshit" in Fragged Space for example since everyone is supposed to be a post-human science project. Hell, you can't even use MUH CLASSIC FANTASY as a guidepost for accusations of freakshit since LotR falls under freakshit (only one human in the party and he dies in the first act)

>>96160659
That's a cute and funny tiefling

>>96159759
I dont give a fuck if you find it interesting or not. Is it edgy? Yes? Ok. The rest of that dribble was unnecessary.

>>96155825
Seething D&D troon can't comprehend people don't play his awful system. Sad, many such cases.

>>96155710
2014 rules say uncommon races might not exist and, even when they do, might be met with prejudice.

>>96155710
Players play entirely at the pleasure of the GM. There are no 'rights'.

>>96161700
The only Italian I trust is a puppet maker named Cesare who plied his trade in old Venezia

>>96155599 (OP)
>What is your reaction
"Oh look, this thread again"

>>96155599 (OP)
I seeth silently and make a thread about it on /tg/ later.

>>96161505
>t. retarded nogames fag who does not know that human fighter is the most common thing played.
Going durr durr D&D is bad derp /tg/ is not playing games, dumbass

>>96156514
>They tend to end up playing a human in a Tiefling or Firbolg costume rather than playing an actual Firbolg or Tiefling.
so?
the same thing happens with elves, half-orcs, halflings, gnomes and dwarves.

>>96160659
https://files.catbox.moe/xzbff7.png
here's the finished version of that one

>>96162229

>>96162104
>doubling down
lol

>>96158400
>Human male rogue
>Neutral evil alignment
>Vegan
>Uses her druidic circle's funds and resources for his own pleasure
>Forces her to disclose their relationship to all her druidic followers causing her unicorn familiars to go into rage

>>96155599 (OP)
>play a human male fighter who's the first male figure they can rely on for comfort and stability and get your dick endlessly wet from infernal women with daddy issues
what's the problem here?

>>96162297
she gets even more naked actually

>>96158988
Thanks for having the requisite level of autism to notice something like that. It's been fixed.

>>96158400
>>96162418
You're going to need to explain this joke.

>>96155710
>The player has a right...
... to leave the table at any time. That is where the player's rights end.

>>96162470
All of those "women" also have dicks. And if you're into that, you're a faggot.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, you do you. Or whoever you're into.

>>96161610
nobody cares about this, it was thrown in to satisfy grogs mad that there are races not in the White Box in modern D&D, because 5e is an edition about avoiding pissing anyone off.

>>96162470
Human men are BUILT to be praise dispensers for tiefling women.

>>96158400
>>96158407

>>96163105
Then why are (You) so pissed off?

>>96159600
I both yawned and eye-rolled reading this. I hope you have enough self-awareness to realize that this is an unfun idea to subject your party and GM to.

>>96163309
I'm not?

>>96163106
Just wondering Zaki anon, who's the artist you usually commission?

>>96155599 (OP)
>what is your reaction

>>96163353
Apparently I am not, but I don't have a lot of experience playing edgy characters or paladins. What exactly are the issues with such a concept? I am genuinely ignorant to the ramifications of playing such a character.

>>96163861
Still shilling your cringe tranny comics here, eh?

>>96164699
If I had to guess, a suicidal character might throw themselves into danger needlessly and by extension, throwing the party into danger.

Its also common for Lawful Good players to suck the fun out of games by policing the actions of others.

Or that guy is just a dick.

>>96155623
That's what I would do too. Also no edgy backstory just a human fighter that wanted to be an adventurer and calls out their edge every fucking time and often mistaking them and their backgrounds since they almost the same.

>>96155737
Is that Daggerheart or DnD? They both have that problem now. Just wanted to be sure which one you're talking about

>play campaigned based on a Undertale/Deltarune setting
>basically the vibe is comedy mixed with tragedy as one would
>play as a little human bastard who cause minor nuisance to NPCs but otherwise tries to include players as much as possible
>another player is basically playing the equivalent of a paladin
>constantly preaches how being a nuisance is wrong
>well fuck it I go somewhere else
>guy follows
>I describe my character thinking about stealing some medication from a hospital
>guy grabs my character in spite of me having done nothing yet
>have to argue for the next 2 hours begging him to leave me the fuck alone and go away
>literally ask random NPCs to help me get rid of a stalker
>somehow GM doesn't see anything wrong with this happening
>basically the entire game is on hold with this guy following me around no matter where I go
>literally all the other players are not playing because this is happening
>GM seems to be fine in us fighting it out
Characters being too edgy sucks but people making a fucking moralist in a setting that thrives off people doing stupid shit is also the most idiotic thing holy shit.

>>96163106
Doesn't even need to be sexual, just headpats and praise and occasional treats, kind of like hound master handling fiendish sort of mutts and bitches.

I do the same thing I do every game and roll up a Warforged Paladin who does his best to help everyone. It would be a beacon of warmth and light and do it's best to help the rest of the party with their daddy issues.

He would eventually get self-conscious about being the only one without horns, so he'd eventually buy some from a hunter and nail them to his forehead. They would be massive.

>>96155599 (OP)
>Oh okay, cool. Let me just fix my character a bit
>Change his name to something like Raven Blackshard
>Look up Brandon Lee from the Crow on my phone and quickly redraw my portrait
>Fix any other inconsistencies
>Okay guys I'm ready to play!

>>96163736
fiverr com/tansartwork

>>96155599 (OP)
>I can’t wait to play DnD
And other sentences I would never say.

>>96164699
Nta but "edgy self-hating demon avenger" is like babby's first edgelord. I personally have nothing against it provided the execution is fun (e.g. Blade and Hellboy) but it's also easy for such a character to into self-obsessed broodwank. And its not exactly novel, which it sounds like you were trying to be.

>>96159023
>devils but "good"
>rainbow skin color
>tails
>sometimes hooves

>>96167739
Oh I know the concept isn't novel, I'm sure it's been done to death like most things but it's a concept I haven't tried or seen at my table. If I were to play him I would probably make him super cheerful but with a slight melancholy. He would think he is a good person but he would never think he is good enough.

Maybe he will come to see it as a gift to fight fiends more effectively, maybe he finds a way to remove his infernal taint, maybe he sacrifices himself chasing redemption. For me its the journey, some people make their characters at their narrative end point and its just about accruing power for them but I like to see how they will change over the course of the game.

>>96160703
>I've seen people extend it to the various elves and halflings
And they have been right. Anything but a white male human is freakshit and instant permaban from my table.
>hurr durr nogaemz
Been DMing since the 80's and still going strong.

>>96170425
And this is exactly why I don't consider "freakshit" a useful form of slang, thank you

>>96160782
>LotR falls under freakshit
Correct. There's a literal angel in the party.

Remake my character into an edgy tiefling warlock with daddy issues, obviously.