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Would Battletech be nearly as popular as it is today if it wasn't a post-apocalyptic aristocratic setting?

>>96156232
BT barely is a thing, as things are.

>>96156232
Quit being a faggot.

the lore to this game is absolutely shit and all the books are F to D-

the only reason it has any traction is because it attracts people who like robots but aren't big into Gundam / Armored Core style zippy zoopy mechs.

not a single person got into this game by reading one of the books

>>96156297
>but aren't big into Gundam / Armored Core style zippy zoopy mechs.
lmao then they don't like Battletech

>>96156232
No, it was carried early on by individual character stories, and those are harder to do in settings with proper industrialized wars. Characters like Nasty K and the Kells, and the possibility that your small team of dudes with their detailed record sheets could also be characters with a real impact even (or especially) if they're just mercenaries are what made the game popular. The gameplay focusing on small numbers of heavily detailed units helped this idea out a lot.

>>96156305
name one piece of fluff that depicts the mechs like this:
https://youtu.be/SlSfr6Wa5sc

>>96156344
That's just a light mech with jump jets.

>>96156232
At least find a better AI colorizer and stop cropping out parts of the image.
Fucking hell man, it replaced the missile launchers with screws(?).

>>96156386
Light mechs aren't half that nimble, battlemechs can't even strafe at speed unless it's a quad.

The clan Sea Fox sex slave brothel ships have arrived in sector btg. Which sex caste clanner are you going after?

>>96156305
>>96156344
Someone post the Dougram gif.

>>96156422
>Light mechs aren't half that nimble
If anything they're even more nimble, I don't see any Armored Cores reaching anywhere close to 177 km/h in that video.

>>96156444
Mechs take a huge mobility hit just to change direction, armored cores to it instantly in any direction.

>>96156437
The 16 year old Pilot phenotype one.

I mean, whichever one seems to be the best conversationalist, because physical beauty doesn't matter <3.

Do Clanners dye their hair blue and get sidecuts?

>>96156437
Why bait with this when you are already getting replies by pretending to think battletech is a super robot setting?

>>96156461
>Mechs take a huge mobility hit just to change direction
Luckily they have the power of two legs like a human, and with treads they can even skate on their feet.

>armored cores to it instantly in any direction.
So can a mech with jump jets.

>>96156479
>and with treads they can even skate on their feet
BT's mechs don't do that.
>So can a mech with jump jets
BT's mechs have to land first, turn around on their feet, then they can finally jump in the chosen direction.

>>96156499
>BT's mechs don't do that.
Treads on feet are actually an option you can take on your mechs.

>BT's mechs have to land first
No they can use jump-jets mid-air, they use them to navigate the vacuum of space for gods sakes they can certainly manage some mid-air maneuvering.

>>96156499
BT mechs do not have to turn on their feet to change jump direction. You can jump in any direction and arbitrarily choose which way you're facing when you land at no cost. It's the only real benefit of things like the Urbanmech or Shadow Hawk having such short jump ranges. They can start moving in reverse by simply jumping backwards and spinning in the air.

>>96156422
>Light mechs aren't half that nimble
It seems that there's a pretty strict and somewhat fanned out skill progression in BT. Most folks go down the: "shooting better"-path, but some folks go for One Must Fall: 2097.

>>96156499
>BT's mechs have to land first, turn around on their feet, then they can finally jump in the chosen direction.

>Man mistakes mechanical jump boosters with jump jets
Kek

>>96156499
Always love how many video game secondaries we run into in these threads who think the mechs are slow and lumbering things

>>96156536
Even MJBs can jump in any direction. They just can't change facing or fine tune their landing enough to do a DFA attack. You can sproing sideways or backwards all you want.

>>96156506
>Treads on feet are actually an option you can take on your mechs
No conventional mech uses that, quadvees cannot use their tracks in any capacity in mech configuration.
>they can certainly manage some mid-air maneuvering
No, a mech can at most strafe slightly in the direction it initially jumped, but it has to land and turn around on the ground to jump in an opposing direction.
If you want any more than that you need a LAM.

>>96156564
>but it has to land and turn around on the ground to jump in an opposing direction.
It does not. This is basic rules stuff, literal game 1 turn 1 information. Players who have literally only played a tutorial game using the quickstart box rules know how this works, even if they didn't finish that game.

>>96156544
The source books give explicit speed and jump distance measurements.

The fact that you can't accept lots of anime and anime inspired video games depict much higher end machines than that is a sign of terminal Vs debate brainrot, where you conflate how much you like the setting with how powerful it is.

>>96156550
>>96156544
>>96156536
>>96156585
Feel free to remind yourself of the CBT rules.
Here's a simple example: A griffin jumps three hexes forward, for whatever reason you want to go in the opposite direction, the griffin cannot use its two extra jump movement to go back two hexes, it has to do that on the next movement phase.

>>96156499
>BT's mechs have to land first, turn around on their feet, then they can finally jump in the chosen direction.
Read them.

>>96156603
Oh look at that >>96156608

>>96156603
Yes, but that's not turning on its feet on the ground. Next turn it can jump 2 hexes back and land facing any direction it chooses to. It could maintain its original facing the whole time, or face in the complete opposite direction on each jump, or face any other way.

>>96156608
>>96156615
This is saying you jump once to a particular point in a straight line, it is not saying you can make multiple jumps per turn that lets you move in opposing directions per jump.

>>96156603
Or you just have it jump one hex forward. You're not calculating your movement as you go, you pick a target hex and then you either walk to it along any arbitrary path you have MP for, run to it along any arbitrary path you have MP for, or jump to it in the shortest straight line possible. You changed your target hex and jumped less than you initially had decided to do. There is no scenario where you need to jump forward and backward in the same turn. You have perfect control of the unit and simply target a closer hex to move to.

>>96156641
There is no scenario where you would ever want or need to do that.

>>96156641
>in a straight line
Not true. The rules are shortest path. This is how you maneuver around buildings and columns underground. I can't be the only guy that's fought in the Solaris VII Ishiyama map.

>>96156662
>>96156654
Irrelevant. That you cannot do that means the mech can only make one jump in one rough direction per turn.
Mechs cannot radically change the direction they're moving during a jump except to come to a stop, it has to land first to make a jump in an opposing direction during the next ten second window that represents a turn.

>>96156735
And it doesn't need to move its feet whatsoever in between jumps. You can jump straight backwards, land facing to the left, then jump right and land facing right. Where your legs are pointed has zero bearing on where you can jump or what way you will face when you land.

>>96156717
I believe the rules ignore spaces with a ceiling because the mech simply cannot move in such a way that would allow that, that's not a legal move.
The rules assume you are in an open area jumping directly over obstacles.

>>96156754
>>96156634
The point being a battlemech will begin and end a jump moving in the same direction in a 10 second window, it takes a significant amount of time to jump in another direction.
It's not juking in opposing directions, sometimes multiple times per second, like late armored cores do.

>>96156956
>it takes a significant amount of time to jump in another direction.
It's fast enough to dodge missiles and cannon shots so I'd say they're pretty damn fast

>>96157000
Ten seconds is a longer time than you'd think when people are shooting at you. It's simply that battlemechs are inherently difficult targets due to various factors and the evasion of the jump is just that it's hard to hit an object moving in a parabolic trajectory.
But again, the point was battlemechs aren't zipping around like armored cores or gundams in flight.
Neither mechwarrior nor armored core are accurate or similar depictions to how battlemechs move in battletech, it's a middle ground of some sort. And though the skill of pilot shifts that depiction heavily in one direction or the other, there are hard limits.

>>96156232
>post-apocalyptic
I feel it would be more popular if this part was more limited to the periphery.
The IS should be a complete technological powerhouse to the point of giving all periphery nations major brain drain issues. Without the constant losing of technology for no real reason (they can't write this shit down?)

>>96156903
>The rules assume you are in an open area jumping directly over obstacles.

Not true. The maximum obstacle you can clear is max jump MP. A 4/6/4 would navigate around a 5 level building.

>>96157182
It can't navigate around the building, that is an illegal move.

>>96157000
That battlemech jumps make you harder to hit, not easier, should be a sign their mobility is pretty good. If they did operate like the games where they all leaped in predictable arcs and you can effortlessly gun them down in the air they'd have a positive to hit modifier instead lol

>>96157155
>Without the constant losing of technology for no real reason
Eh, even if they theoretically knew how to use technology, they wouldn't have the industry to build it. ASF's are VERY expensive after all.

>>96157254
Even the worst player in mechwarrior online has a hit rate equaling that of an extremely high gunnery skill in TT, the video games are not an accurate depiction of how easy it is to hit targets.

>>96157330
>ASF's are VERY expensive after all
This is false, ASFs are actually on average close to equivalent to tanks in price.
A "naked" 100 ton ASF with a 300 fusion engine is about as expensive as a tracked vehicle with a similar specification, a mech would be almost twice as expensive.

>Hang on, why’s the Jenner in Uncool - CLARKSON!
>I’m sorry Hammond, but no matter what, if you turn up to pick up Kristin Scott Thomas in that, she’ll go “Oh that’s Mister 52 Million”.

>>96156297
I read the books for years before I got into the tabletop.

>>96157347
It's still easier to hit a mech in the air unless it's only poptarting, even ignoring mechwarriors contentious pinpoint aiming. Any dingus can see a 10 meter robot begin leaping into the air and go "hmmm I wonder where he's going to be for the next five seconds?". It's not even a neutral action, it's supposed to be very hard to hit them in the air.

Actually feel like it doesn't get discussed how it's pretty hard to hit mechs in general. They can't be that slow if it's generally unreliable to even get lasers or guided weapons to connect.

>>96157393
Yes but a mech can be used almost infinitely, even after it's been 'destroyed', while an ASF can only be used once and they tend to be one-hit wonders.

>>96157431
If we take the game outcomes as truth it isn't that mechs are hard to hit its that everyone is bad at shooting.

A competently trained gunner has about a worse than even chance of hitting a parked car with a heavy machine gun at 90 meters.

>>96157431
I don't know of any depictions that indicate jump jets work any other way except propelling the mech in a simple parabolic arc.

>>96157431
Most people don't really understand how impressive a consistent 65 kph offroad combat speed really is. And that's sorta on the slow side as far as mechs are concerned.

>>96157466
Yeah, to put things into perspective, an abrams tank only goes 40 kph off-road, and it can't jump, or do a backflip, or summersault like a mech can.

>>96157501
200 ton tanks in BT can manage 30km/h, I think that more speaks to the better technology they have. Battlemechs aren't really faster than contemporary tanks, they just have better rough terrain mobility.

>>96157460
A parked car would be immobile thus granting a -4 to hit.

>>96157460
A competently trained (4) gunner has a +4 from long range and -4 for immobile target. So they hit on a 4 on a 2d6 roll.
So actually, that's the baseline amount of movement a mech has in combat. A mech that simply chooses to stay in its hex is a +0 modifier to hit but a mech that is actually shut down or without a pilot is -4. They generate 4 entire points of defense just from being active enough to juke in place.

>>96157553
>>96157542
Fine dickheads, a car with a running engine that hasn't moved in the last ten seconds but is not parked.

>>96157564
That's a car actively trying to not get shot.

>>96157564
he's moving back and forth like austin powers stuck in the hallway and that counts as evasive movement

Changing the subject: given that the MechWarrior games are so much more successful than TT BT, should CGL be trying to gather them by making rules for single-Mech scenarios? Solaris fights, Clan Trials, etc.

I guess the problem is if you start doing PvE, you need a game master (or moderately competent but simple rules for enemy Mechs'"AI"?)

>>96157401
>Jeremy, didn't you just buy a Battlemaster?

>>96157239
Fucking secondary.

>>96157629
I've seen no numbers indicating one is more successful financially than the other.

>>96157635
>Have you SEEN the curvature of its cockpit? It is PURE pornography. If you walk up to pick up Kristin Scott Thomas in a Battlemaster she’ll not want to go home unless it’s in your rumble seat.

>>96157629
Video games are entirely Microsoft's domain, and digital game aids go to that one guy. CGL has no in for any digital products aside from PDFs and ebooks.

>>96157665
Are you literate?

>>96157441
Plus another thing to keep in mind is that...ASF's in the lore don't really have good designs. Most ASF descriptions are about how they suck for one reason or another.

>>96157629
They showed off a new box at gencon that's all about PVE, there's a card system to decide opponent actions. Only for alpha strike so far but they said they wanted to do something similar for classic.

I'm skeptical that a hypothetical mechwarrior enthusiast who can't make the leap from solo supermechs to more even lance v lance will get over the hurdle of video games to tabletop play at all.

So /btg/ I've been working on a sourcebook for my own mercenary force and I'm in kind of a weird dilemma. The TL;DR is that the mercenary force is also a satanic cult and they need a patron demon to worship (obviously this is mostly a means of ensuring unit cohesion and control by leadership, but I'm a fan of the black marauder so there's gonna be some spooky ambiguity). I'm of two minds:

>Use an actual demon from the ars goetia or other occult background for maximum spooky

>Be a little tongue-in-cheek and make it so over the thousand-plus years old RPG sourcebooks have been mistaken for occult texts and have them worship a demon or devil from another RPG

Which do you think is more tonally appropriate for battletech? I feel like I could go either way on this.

>>96157629
I feel like the battlefield support system would translate well to arena fights since you couls just have card draws for hazard activation and then the entire hazard explained on the card itself.

>>96157746
Do both. Pick a "real" demon and then make it clear through description that the cult leader got most of his information from a fragment of a Highschool DxD fan wiki or similar. That's basically what the lesser key of solomon was anyway.

The meta-spook is that might not matter, for the devil wears many guises...

>>96157422
No you didn't.

>>96157746
>the mercenary force is also a satanic cult and they need a patron demon to worship
This setting does not need more trannies in it. Start over and come up with something better.

>>96157746
Satanism is boring, I'd lean into some of the weirder setting-specific stuff like Cameronism. Have the cult leaders claim they're communing with an angry dead Cameron and that the IS and Kerensky all failed/betrayed "us" and that's why we're raiding this farming community.

>>96156297
>bottom hates battletech
It's too much of an open admission, this has to be a false flag.

I know it's not canon but theoretically how good would focusing on ASF's with tag-assisted Arrow IV's fired at long-range and long-tom artillery be?

>>96157900
You don't think the faggot is here as an act of aggression?
Then why do you think it posts fugly faggot pictures of itself and paints with a fucking marker?
It's a troll who hates us and is here because otherwise we'd be happily free of faggots

>>96157801
That could probably work, I would probably need a figure that is both "real" and prominent in TTRPGs, and has enough recognizable aspects of both to put in to make the joke work

>>96157843
There is a lot of setting-specific stuff elsewhere in this thing I'm working on (I've floated with "esoteric Amarisism" as a joking reference) , but the overall vibe is something inspired heavily by old horror movies and comics and IDK about straying too far from that.

>>96157746
They could worship Bael, specifically the interpretation with a spider or crab-like body. Everyone thinks they're just a bunch of kooks, until they start performing unholy miracles like raising the dead or warping their mechs into technorgsnic monstrosities. Is it really demonic magic, or some kind of lostech nanomachines (son)? Or perhaps something even stranger like the wreckage of a mysterious mech that appeared after a jump accident. One whose origins may lie in an entirely different universe...

>>96157951
The joke of describing an anime waifu the way lovecraft describes elder gods doesn't rest on the audience being able to recognize the specific waifu.

>>96157908
Warcrime / 10.
I dont think the Tag has enough range to safely use one with an arrow do they?
And the long-toms are just good for any proper army deployment.
Still, in theory it would be a solid combat doctrine to focus on the fighters and arty, using your other forces primarily to as defensive or AA. I imagine, lots of riflemen, LRM carriers liek vehicles and archers, and some heavier mech to hold a line.

>>96157971
The DG stuff is probably pushing it too far, I want to keep things at a Black Marauder-level of ambiguity. I was thinking of fusing Bhaal of AD&D with the actual Bael/Ba'al though as part of the fusion idea.

Im kind of curious.
Who here got into BattleTech from the books?
The video games? (MechWarrior / BattleTech)
The Tabletop?

>>96158058
Tabletop. I did play Mechwarrior 2 when I was little, but I didn't connect the dots to it being related to Battletech until after I got into Battletech independently. Never played MW3, only played 4 after getting the 25th anniversary box.

>>96158058
MW1 & 2, the others to a lesser extent. Far too much MWO & a bit of MW5.

>>96158058
Mechwarrior 3 or 4, unsure which, as a kid. (Me and a friend would play it together due to what we considered complex controls at the time) Didnt realize what it was til years latter. Mechwarrior 5 and the "Yet another" mods really reignited my love if it.

>>96157815
Yes I did. I saw the Legend of the jade phoenix trilogy at Barnes & Noble when I was ~11 years old and reading that was my first introduction to battletech.

>>96158058
mw2mercs and then mechcommander 1 and mw3
then tabletop minis (but didn't play a single game until earlier this year
only skimmed through one novel as a kid (the one with camacho's caballeros with the cool ass hunchback on the cover art)

>>96158058
Some sort of mechwarrior arcade machine in a chuck e cheese when I was a child.

>>96156437
I FUCK NO ONE
AND MY TIES ARE SEVERED CLEAN

>>96158058
I had been into the robotech RPG because the books were sub-5 dollars in the used RPG pile when I was a kid, and then with my enthusiasm for giant robots I encountered a battletech 4e box set and some of the old NOVA combat books in the same pile and then I was just gone
twenty years later, here I am

How does one “build” a lance?

>>96158058
Got in through books.
Jade Phoenix Trilogy and Dark Ages all the way to Tucker getting kidnapped by his sister.
Recently finished Grey Death Legion 1-3 and Wolfpack. Trying to re-read DA, but I keep finding distractions.

>>96158412
You review the mechs available to you considering the restrictions of the game you are playing(era, tech level, IS/clan, etc), consider the manner in which you intend this lance to fight(fast, slow, long range, short range, balanced, mixed, etc), then consider which mechs will work with the aforementioned conditions within the BV limit.
>what are you allowed to use
>what do you want your lance to do
>what can you fit into your lance

>>96158412
You pick 4 cool looking mechs that you want to paint.
That's it.

>>96158412
Pick four things that synergize to create a logical team. Or pick four things that move the same speed and generally do the same job so they'd fit in with two other lances that collectively synergize. Or pick four things that look cool together. Or pick four things out of a RAT.

1

>>96158412
pick a mech you like and work from there.

2

3
Finished the interior and varnished the whole thing.

>>96158514
Well done!

>>96158509
When are you going to learn to paint?

A question for the oldfags here. Why is the charger so often despised? It has a cool concept as a rock-em sock-em robot that charges in to do a ton of damage in melee range. In spite of having shit for ranged weaponry and all that.

Was it from the days before BV? Is it how the game used to be played?

>>96159009
Even with BV the Charger is expensive for what it does.

>>96159009
shitting on the charger is mostly a meme, though partially it is the result of it being on RATs as a full assault, so yeah, it sucks sweaty shit getting it rather than a stalker etc by the dice when you are not playing a favoured faction, even if it actually is a very fun mech to use if you're going by BV

>>96159009
What the other guys said. To this very day, the Charger sits like a wart on RATs. You could have gotten an Awesome 8Q. You got a Charger 1A1. Womp womp.

>>96158058
Got in through MWO and MW5. Read loads of the books through Google Books (and had a ratfuck of a time trying to figure out what happened when and when different series were set). GDL is still my favorite but the series focusing on the formation of the Clans was really interesting.

>>96159107
Could you not see the publish dates or something?

>>96159009
It's an assault mech with the mobility, armor and BV of a medium and the firepower of a light mech, it has an in-universe cost equaling lighter assaults. People usually refer to the 1A1.
Even if you're not expecting your assault mech to be an assault mech, is an undergunned medium that can't jump and can really only do damage with punches and kicks a good investment to you?

>>96157815
You’d be surprised how popular books where even up to about 2010. Its surprisingly normal to find people who read vidya tie in novels without ever having found the games.

>>96158058
The pipeline for me was pc games - books - ttp

>>96157401
I think i could pull in a goliath

>>96158058
I played the ancient dos mechwarrior as a kid. The graphics were so bad you had to have NV on all the time which was just green wireframes, it was awesome

>>96159168
On the other hand, the Charger does the highest possible charge damage in the game without using oversized engines!

>>96159322
???

>>96159444
If you're gonna do that, at least post pictures of yourself so I can add them to the folder.

>>96159498
wanna see my pond?

:3c

>>96159511
the frog sees you and thinks only homophobic slurs

>>96159444
Sebu does gay shit? I'm getting to old for this. dont answer i dont wanna hear it

>>96159522
..

>>96159530
Sebu has stated that the reason why all women in his art are getting violently fucked and all men are getting tenderly loved is because they don't like women.

>>96156564
>no conventional 'Mech uses that

There is one in a recent TRO. Feel free to go look for it on your own. The construction rules, meanwhile, state that not only is this a thing that 'Mechs can do, it takes up on additional tonnage.

>>96157441
Technically an ASF can drop bombs from Altitudes 8+, which ground forces cannot hit.

>>96158058
Flipped through MW2, saw it had Macross designs, got a copy of the BT Compendium soon after. The former is in much better condition than the latter, which is held together by tape and nostalgia.

>>96159562
I see no construction rule that states such a thing, and I can only assume you're referring to the diomede, which doesn't have tracks on its feet.

>>96159625
Tracks, on page 249 of the TM. My only mistake was in not recalling how much tonnage they took up (total/10).

>>96157441
>strafing intensifies

>>96159636
I'm aware tracks exist, that's not the point of contention.
No depiction of tracks on mechs(of which there are three I know of, aside from quadvees) show them being part of the foot, they're shown as part of the lower leg, which the mech must kneel to use instead of being able to switch between instantly.

>>96159654
This is only partially correct, the buster has tracks mounted within the feet apparently.
Though tracks do take an entire movement phase of doing nothing to switch to or off of and they don't really do much except lowering your overall mobility while making it so you don't slip on roads(this doesn't even make sense, heavy tracked vehicles slip on roads pretty easily).
It's not skating around like is stereotypical with some mechs using such locomotion.

>>96158058
I got the AGoAC box gifted to me last year for my birthday
Have been expanding since

>>96157422
Same here, including the sourcebooks. I bought some IW minis with the notion of playing but they just looked so lame. Did end up playing a bit with the 25th anniversary plastics. Never stopped reading the books, however, and started playing with the AGoAC plastics.

>>96158058
MechWarrior 2 => card game (no, really) => novels => BT

>>96159551
>because they don't like women.
Honestly pretty based. I don't like women either.

Also, delete the pics you dumb fuck. You're just going to get the posts deleted and yourself banned again.

>>96159654
The only canon mech I'm aware of with track has them pretty explicitly in the feet. It seems like it lets you squat down and let your tracks move for you.
>>96159729
>lowering your overall mobility while making it so you don't slip on roads(this doesn't even make sense, heavy tracked vehicles slip on roads pretty easily).
I'm guessing the extra stability comes from having two feet on the ground and having your neuro helm and gyro give your mech a level of stability a conventional tracked vehicle can't normally achieve.
That and BT tracks are probably just better than real life tracks I guess.

>>96159888
>I'm guessing the extra stability comes from
IRL, riding on roller skates is less stable than walking, but faster as you're working against a lot less friction.
CGL is just being anti-fun here.

>>96159905
I don't think it's necessarily like roller skates since with the tracks it seems like you just firmly plant your mechs feet in the ground and let the tracks take care of the rest. No leg movement or technique, just stand straight while the tracks move you.
That said, I completely agree it's CGL being anti-fun. God forbid we enjoy any of the niche equipment without the writers needing to shit on it well after the fact.

>>96159888
It's not stability that's the issue, it's traction. Smooth roads provide very little traction compared to dirt, that's why mechs slip on them in the first place.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iVrf2npLhE
The buster is probably the most illogical example of tracks helping against slipping with how comically small the surface area is on those.
Other tracked mechs in BT are the jabberwocky and diomede, and obviously the quadvees.

>>96158058
My brother had Mechassault on the original Xbox, and then MA2. Years later, I got MechWarrior 4 on my first laptop, and it appealed way more to my tism. Then I got into the tabletop not long after and it was the best autism bait I'd ever run into.

>>96159729
>>96159905
Wow, you're telling me battletech has an alternate option in construction that has effectively no mechanical purpose and seems designed only to be unappealing and pointless, including very specifically it requiring you to spend turns doing nothing for some reason?

>>96159980
Well, it's more meant to be an industrialmech feature statted for additional flavor.

Is there anything to support the mechwarrior thing where random companies will post MRB missions for mech mercenaries to attack their competitors on the same planet?

Seems like a pretty huge breakdown in civil order that basically no state worth the name would tolerate.

>>96159989
It's more meant to be yet another "sidegrade" because CGL need to keep putting out books to make money, and they're scared to advance the plot. Some options will be crap, which is great as long as they aren't stronger than anything available.

>>96160018
Fighting pirates, making deniable raids against enemies, and putting down the odd local rebellion.

>>96160035
It's not meant to be a sidegrade to anything, there aren't even any IS battlemechs that use tracks.

>>96160151
There will be soon in store XTRO.

>>96159989
Love to have my big expensive book of rules to make mechs that suck ass and no one uses.

This is just a friendly reminder that Battletech is a Christian game in which we acknowledge Jesus Christ as the son of God and our lord and savior. Devil worshippers aren't welcome here.

>>96160180
Davions please go this is a Drac thread

>>96160180
the dominant factions are godless communists that abhor natural reproduction so that seems unlikely

>>96160180
>mormons
>christian

The doloire proves itself again as one of the best mechs in the game

>>96160184
I am honoring the dragon.

>>96160327
I love these summary gifs.

>>96160334
My only objection to this is one I have with most catgirls, that given human ear canal structure, catgirl ears should be on the sides of their heads, not the top, so they should look more like a Pallas' cat. Otherwise, keep honoring the Dragon.

>>96160439
Fine, have one with correct ear placement.
No wonder they give penalties in the RPG.

>>96159119
It's not consistent. For some stuff, like the original GDL novels, it's correct but then the whole Twilight of the Clans series will list itself as published on the same day: Nov. 22, 2018 when in reality they were released from August '97 to March '99. The Battletech books on the Play store have essentially zero organization outside of bundles, and I eventually had to look up a loose timeline of novels myself to figure out how different ones tied into each other and figure out a reading order.

Given the context of the setting I don't really get why they'd ever have a mech that doesn't have hands.

>>96161052
who needs hands when you can have a gun?

>>96161119
To pick up the loot you're taking

>>96161052
More gun.

>>96161224
I think the setting has conclusively proven that arms > gun

>>96158058
MW2:Mercs, then the show, then the novels, more MW games, then the tabletop.

I never owned an actual mini or TRO until I had already been a fan for nearly 10 years.

>>96161238
If you don't bring enough gun, there will be nothing to pick with your extra hands.

>>96161052
Picking things up isn't necessarily in every mech's intended use case. A longbow is meant to stand back and sling missiles, not to punch things and pick up loot. And while the rules don't really reflect it, a hand is a fairly complex structure and adding them to a mech that doesn't really need them is just unnecessary complexity.
That's how I justify it, anyway

>>96161238
I think the number of crits in arms should be reduced, and legs increased.

>>96161303
I think the number of crits in arms should be increased, and legs reduced.

>>96161238
What if that gun is an ac/20?

>>96161052
I think mechs without arms should have a demerit to pilot checks to stand up. How the fuck is a stalker supposed to get up? Even worse when people insist they're really clunky and inflexible. You're just not getting up at all then. You've simply realism'd your way back out of basic functionality.

When do you guys punch and when do you kick? The -2 on kicks is nice, but if I get in the rear arc I'd rather throw punches, unless I have a big gun in both arms or I'm one level higher, or i have a chance to remove a leg due to preexisting damage, assuming I can punch hard enough to get through the rear armor.

>>96161337
The No/minimal arms quirk gives a penalty to standing up.

>>96161337
That's literally already an optional rule in TacOps. It's one we use at my table too. God, the Stalker II is a glorious trashheap.

>the more you know.hpg

>>96161345
Kick is superior for most purposes, especially for salvage in campaign or even mission kill in pickup.

>>96161337
"Applied to both 'Mechs with no arms and 'Mechs with arms that are completely ineffective at assisting a 'Mech regain its feet after a fall, this Quirk imposes a penalty on target numbers for Piloting Skill rolls made to stand up, although this modifier is not cumulative with advanced rules for standing up as presented in Tactical Operations. 'Mechs with this Quirk cannot make physical attacks or carry items using its arms for obvious reasons."

>>96161345
Depends on how likely I am to miss the kick, and if the unit I'm hitting has pre-existing damage.
Sometimes the kick just isn't worth it if your shots haven't been hitting the legs, better to try and stack damage in the same locations.

>>96161303
The age of leg cannons is upon us! And people laughed at the Crud!

>>96161337
HBS had an animation planned for Urbanmech which used the AC10 and torso twist to prop itself up.

>>96161345
Kick is usually better in about… I’d say 70% to 80% of cases. You’ve got an easier time connecting with the attack, concentrate more damage in a single location, automatically force a PSR if you hit the target, and usually don’t have to hold off on weapons to throw one out (unless you’ve got leg-mounted weapons which are not very common). The only time I tend to skip a kick is if the target number is 8+ or 9+, where missing is more likely and I don’t want to risk the PSR for a missed kick. Punches usually win out when you’re fishing for a head hit on something that you can headcap, or if you just can’t risk the chance to fall so you might as well punch.

>>96161409
I'll only accept it if leg cannons can be used as improvised jump jets.

>>96161347
>>96161359
>>96161362
>TacOps
So go make it a regular rule. It's stupid that all the things that make sense and should happen are always tucked away in the big book of rules no one uses.
>>96161415
lmao that sounds adorable

>>96161460
>point your leg-mounted AC-20s at the ground and fire
>blow your own legs off

>>96161300
>a hand is a fairly complex structure
Not when you're using myomer it's not.

>>96161739
Yeah, it is, especially when compared to literally nothing.

>>96161619
Do you not use tac ops rules when you play?

>>96161619
If someone tells me they want to add a rule that isn't in Total Warfare, I'm generally fine with that if I get a chance to read about it ahead of time and they aren't trying to spring it mid battle. If someone says they want to NOT use a rule from TW, I'm looking at them a bit askance.

>>96162184
Laserboaters fear coolant failure rules.

>>96156297
First exposure to the IP was the Warrior Triology. Go be a faggot elsewhere...

>>96156297
Bottom has shit opinions, more at eleven.

>No BattleTech mobile game
Do they hate money?

>>96162456
There was one for apple devices.

I bought something

>>96162520
>Limited Ed. Total Warfare
I see you are a fan of the most exceptionally-rare...

>>96162544
i saw it and just had to have it

>>96162456

>>96162575
Good score. I have a complete library and that was one of the final 3 books I had to hunt down.

>>96156297
That's not true. I got into Battletech by reading the Battletech Manual

>>96162600
Wasn't this supposed to be a PC game with microtransations?

>>96162603
not bad, pdfs are nice and convenient but ist just feels and looks better to have the books

>>96162600
W I D E Spider, I kinda dig it

>>96160327
>>96160344
How da wah?

>>96162878
New version of MegaMek can make a map summary gif for you.

>>96162603
Do you also collect funko pops?

>>96162980
No, but I bought a corvette last month if that helps.

>>96162987
which gen?

>>96162456
What you want like a fucking gatcha game? Becauze that's what it would be. Either that, or something like World of Tanks/Warships, which would be almost as bad.

>>96163196
'73 C3 with an overbored 383 and Muncie 21 manual. Wanted an old girl, all shiny and chrome.

So I bought the new Kintaro plastic mini. Did they mess up the placement of the missiles or am I looking at it wrong? The -19 has an LRM5 in the left arm and an SRM6 in the LA and RT, but the mini seems to have both in the RT or RT and RA?

>>96163250
>worst gen corvette
How does your ex wife feel about it?

>>96163417
>Non-smog engine with the best body
I lost my Ex along with all my guns in a tragic girls trip accident.

>>96163455
>best body

>>96163470
I bet you don't like the MAD-3R.

>>96163484
Sorry, but the 65 sting ray coupe was objectively the best looking corvette. If I had to buy one today I'd probably settle for a used c5 though.

>>96163555
Nah, my uncle has one of those and I prefer the fender monster. God, the C3 is PEAK 'vette.

>>96163484
NTA, but the c3 is the project Phoenix marauder

>>96163575
A difference in taste then.

>>96163581
>All nice curves instead of sharp angles
Are you sure about that?

>>96163605
I consider them both cartoonish caricatures of the original, so yes

>>96163707.
The C3 is more the Mako II than anything prior, but she really makes herself IMO. C2's are flat and small like some kind of British roadster more than anything.

>>96163707
C1 really does nothing for me, looks like every other 50s convertible from the front.

>>96163239
i want a free to play game with minimal micro transactions.
like pocket mortys.

>>96163735
Really going to turn your nose up at a triumph?

>>96163768
For something I've ridden in? Yeah. That may be my own fault with growing up around absolute land yachts, though.

>>96163748
You aren't ever going to get one. Anything that can be monetized, will be monetized. Capitalism demands it.

What's your faction and why did you choose it?

>>96164070
I have a company for every great IS house plus the Capellans so I can always play opfor. Anyone who only paints their mechs as a single force doesn't really like Battletech.

>>96164070
MOC, because I'm transitioning and they're the only non problematic faction.

>>96164070
Fronc Reaches, because I’m a spiteful cunt and I’ll side with the only republic in the setting to spite you

>>96164070
When I jumped back into Battletech, my brother bought me a dice tray with House Kurita's logo on it, which is what lead to me making Naginata my main force.

I originally had a Diamond Shark/Sea Fox force I was leading with, but the recent lore about them has me less and less interested.

Do electric weapons exist in battletech?.

>>96164505
It's practically a meme that PPC fire is described as "an azure bolt of man made lighting"

>>96164070
Comstar, because I was always fascinated by the phone company being an actually evil military superpower. And I love the story of Tukayyid.

What would a cool lead Assault 'mech for a GB star be? Circa maybe 3115 or 3120? Would they still be using the Executioner widely?

>>96164590
That's just the appearance, a PPC is a particle accelerator. Any electromagnetic effects are byproducts of it accelerating particles to hyperlethal speeds.
TSEMPs are mech scale tazers though.

>>96164670
Kodiak, always Kodiak

>>96164107
You're joking but either way get fucked
[Spoiler]but you like that don't you[/spoiler]

tonight i will try my hand on some basic base decoration, any last minute tips before i ruin my minis with woodglue and birdsand forever?

>>96164730
Yeah, it's a much smaller scale, so tufts of grass that would be up to a 28mm figures ankle are towering stalks at neck height or even above the heads of 6mm figures. What would be an overgrown field at a larger scale is a bamboo forest here.

>>96164730
you can have a lot of fun with that citadel crackly paint to make volcanic bases or cracked ice fields. but don't forget to apply parts of the environment to the mech as well.

too many times i see people putting mechs in woodland bases, but no mud or dirt on the feet of their mechs. gotta remember these are machines with lots of tonnage to them, so they're tearing up the environment when they walk through them.

>>96164712
Even in a frontline star like Alpha or Beta Galaxies?

>>96164070
Oberon. Pirates. Cool logo. Grimm.

>>96164756
i got some alien rosetta and alien grass tuft i want to try for some kind of copper rich alien garden world feel with lots of green/blue and dark tones
>>96164808
that stuff looks fun, i will chat up my local shopkeep up about them he's old as fuck and likes to build ww2 diorama but he knows his shit. i had two projects in mind a votl with an alien garden world as a base and a urban mech on rough terrain, because whats funnier than a snail that is even slower

>>96164811
Maybe a Kingfisher if you want an omni.

>>96163318
The old art of the Kintaro has the LRM 5 in the right torso even though it was never supposed to be there. The -20/Rosebud downgrade version moved the LRM 5 there, probably as a late attempt to correct that art mixup. The record sheets for the 3rd League box on the downloads page are fore the -20 and the -22, the latter of which matches the original -19 weapons layout.
I can't see the LA LRM 5 in your picture but if the mini has both I'd guess it's like that to leave you the option of carving off/filling in one of them to match whatever version you want it to be. If there isn't an LRM 5 on the LA then the sculpt is just meant to match the -20.

>>96164995
Yeah it has the LRM5 in the LA. I guess they're just keeping true to the original incorrect art, then.

After seeing it in action, the Triskelion is a seriously good mech.

>>96164756
>>96164808
from left to right. Alien copper rich garden world, urbie on rough terrain and a skulker on a vulcanic planet.

>>96165309
by the by i took the idea for the wire antenna from one of the mechs posted in one of these threads

Is a HAG 20 a decent pairing with 2 ER Large Pulse Lasers?

i've seen images of mechs with an exhaust, does that mean there are mechs with an otto motor?

>>96156297
>not a single person got into this game by reading one of the books
I did. It was Mercenary's Star. I enjoy William H. Keith's other novels as well under his Ian Douglas pen name.

My latest additions to the militia.

>>96165632
No you didn't

>>96158058
Mercenary's Star > 3rd ed starter & citytech. This would have been 1996 or 1997. My first mechwarrior game was MW4 in 2002 or so.

>>96165607
There are diesel-electric mechs, but it's a particularly bad option so it's only really practical on very low end industrialmechs. Hydrogen fuel cell engines are more practical under the rules.

>>96164070
I have more than one. At the top it's the Lyran Commonwealth. I choose it because that's where the GDL had their landhold. I also dig big mechs and big guns.

>>96165704
there are hard rules for this?

>>96165715
Yes there are rules for I.C.E mechs. Its fucking hard to make anything combat worthy with them, which is the single greatest disaster in the entire franchise's history.

>>96165726
do you know where i can look them up? Also i wouldnt say that, sounds like a fun escort objective, 'protect this mech until it reaches the other end of the battlefield' throw in some mines and opfor and BAM there you go

>>96165726
Y'know what, that's a good idea. Should do a thread challenge, come up with some parameters to build Mad Max I.C.E mechs. Maybe have a Megamek brawl with them, too.

>>96165750
NTA but the Raider is one I know of off the top of my head.

https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Raider_(BattleMech)

>>96165760
64 km/h? damn

>>96165753
The main problem is that ICE engines are H E A V Y. Iirc, they're literally 2x the weight of a normal fusion engine with the same rating.
Part of the problem is that they have a massive fuel tank automatically built in. However much gas it takes to let that mech travel 300km on a full tank is how much that engine includes a tank for.

>>96165769
Oh of course, you're never going to make an ICE mech actually good in a vacuum. But in the context of "Make it with an ICE under X budget" I think we could get some interesting builds going. I'll probably try to cook something up when I get a chance before long.

>Mechs are stated to move fluidly, like an organic creature
>Video games keep showing them as mechanical stompy things
Fucking WHY

>>96165769
600km*
If there were rules for making ICEmechs with itty bitty engines intended to only run for a few minutes instead of all day, they might be more combat viable. For at least one fight before sputtering to a halt anyway.

>>96165791
organic creatures stomp around, especially the ones that weigh multiple tons.

>>96165803
>organic creatures stomp around
Yes, but not mechanically.

>>96165797
Make fusion lowboys to haul them. Problem solved.

>>96165808
you will never be happy with any depiction

Now it's time to come clean about being a total newbie to TTP after spending three months reading the rulebooks and readouts. What occult sources do you consult to build such unusual things as a mech with a gasoline engine without pulling it out of thin air?

>>96165827
They call it the "construction manual". You may need another book with extra rules. My first guess would be "Tactical Operations". Things may have changed though.

>>96165827
Tech manual.

>>96165827
Literally just the techmanual (or more realistically one of the record sheet creation programs). ICE engines are standard rules legal.

>>96165834
>Tactical Operations
fuck i only have strategic operations

>>96165836
>>96165837
>>96165834
wait what now tech or construct

>>96165847
Probably Tech. I havent dealt with a physical book since Total Warfare first released. I am an unreliable narrator.

>>96165840
the Cranston Snord link in the OP leads to a website where you can acquire PDFs of what you seek.

>>96156222 (OP)
Is there a version of battletech that's designed to be played in the meta ways?

>>96165894
Battletech is a historical wargame for playing battles of wars that havent happened yet. You drink beer and split into two teams with your buds to reenact tukayid.

>>96165859
i have an tablet for the books but i prefer paper desu and so i neglected my collection
>>96165864
either i have major braindamage or that link is busted, i get rerouted to a pdf of treasure island

Are there any single player games from the Battletech universe that give you the full range of the game's arsenal? I was a bit annoyed by how limited the Paradox Interactive game ended up being.

>>96165930
i play the ttp with/against myself. its great

>>96165915
You have brain damage and/or auto filled a link from the high seas thread that you'd been in previously. The rebrand Cranston Snord link goes to our trove.

>>96165985
yeah autofill pulled a fast one on me, so it was braindamage in the end

>>96165607
Internal combustion engines are fucking heavy and they have major problems in certain environments so there isn't really much reason to use the on battlemechs except exceptional circumstances and desperate measures.
You can still do stuff with them.

>>96166059
>Internal combustion engines are fucking heavy and they have major problems in certain environments so the only reason to use them on battlemechs is because of how fucking metal it is. Vroom vroom muthafucka.

>>96165930
You can mod HBS Battletech to give you a shitload of stuff. BTA gives you up to.... 3067? I think? And the complete inner sphere to lose yourself in. Fair warning though, its a slightly 'alternate history' which means there is a bunch of factions and strange semi-plausible shit in there.

>>96165930
>>96166088
i really like roguetech, that said i only played it for like 8 hours because reallife

>>96166059
Why did you give it ten sinks with that loadout? You know you don't get 10 free like a fusion engine?

>>96166134
Diesel Proto
IS Diesal proto
Who let you have TWO scoops of the forbidden hmmmmmmm?

>>96164670
Bruin

ICE is played out, someone gets the idea to make a cheap ICE mech for desperate producers every other week. What I never see, and what would be far more interesting, is proper retrotech. Not just a new production primitive unit, but an actual mixed tech base primitive + IS unit. It's something I don't even think CGL has actually done. They made the rules for it and then only ever had the people in-universe put ancient designs back into production, along with a couple of new designs that are still 100% on the Primitive tech base.
Did you know that being mixed tech base is binary even though there are three different bases? Once a mech is labeled mixtech, it can freely attach IS, Clan, and Primitive components without accruing any additional penalties aside from the inherent problems with mixtech. Nobody ever does this. Not in-universe, not out of universe. Never.

>>96166177
doesnt Luther Fisk have a mixed mech?

>>96166245
Wiki says it's just a Salamander. I'd be interested to see an actual mixed retro mech though. As far as I know they don't actually exist. They should, and it's implied they do, but I've never found an example.

>>96166177
So you want like a dervish 1S with ATMs or something? A Korvin 2 with a CLPL?

One day I will play in a merc campaign and use my earnings to start boutique handcrafted mechs in my garage.

>>96166286
Not him but a Dieselback with a supercharger, free CASE with a clan skeleton, and a couple heavy hitting weapons is a pretty good design that could be cranked out cheap.

>>96166286
Or something as mundane as a mostly modern mech with a primitive internal structure and primitive fusion engine. Standard armor is pretty widely available, as are most of the basic weapons. The entire reason they even started making primitive stuff again is that the average industrialmech manufacturer is capable of upgrading to primitive military standards. They could make a mech to primitive standards and then attach armor and weapons sourced from more modern suppliers.

>>96166305
Regulans make a Sarissa variant like that, as well as armor refits of their Jihad Retrotech shitheaps.

>>96166332
Huh, so they do. Well hallelujah, the Regulans came through for me again.

>Cobbled together from parts in a boneyard and the remnants of a Renault dealership, the COALSACK is the result of a Dark Age militia's attempts to make a credible battlemech without access to any fusion engines. Armed with three LRM 15s, quad mounted machineguns, and a small shield, it is an incredible stretch to say they succeeded in any regard.

>>96166433
>Man builds 65 ton Hornet in his backyard
Awesome

>>96166459
Not an Awesome, I'm not sure how I'd get that many PPCs to run on diesel.

>>96166134
10 heat sinks is still technically undersinked at maximum heat generation

>>96166488
They also weigh 10 tons. ICE doesn't get any free sinks. Fuel Cell gets 1 free sink iirc.

>>96166499
I know.
Unless you want to strip off a heat sink for an extra ton of armor or take out a bunch to cram it full of ammo I don't see the point.
It's just a quikscell atlas.

>>96165818
nta but I really liked that one guys animation.
Wrestling should be a more present element in the rules. Definitely need to trial a grappling system so you can hold mechs in place or sweep them or even drop onto them, without thrusters.

>>96166535
That mostly just looks like mechwarrior's movement with more range of motion.

>>96166535
Those types of expanded physical attacks already exist. Tripping, pushing, grappling and charging are all load of fun.

What is something that you could conceivably want to do in a game that DOESN'T have a rule?

>>96166526
How dare you imply that Quikscell would ever do something as crass as build a mech. They make fine* quality** tanks*** and accessories for the discerning, thoughtfully budgeted military consumer.

>>96166569
I wish we had standardized shipping costs for accounttech. % tonnage of cargo x number of jumps is all I want.

We unofficially placed it at 100k Cbills per ton per jump in my group just to have something workable.

>>96166591
Sorry, 10k.

>captcha TMNT J
I wonder how mutants would be treated in Battletech.

>>96166617
Modest mutations are actually pretty common. There are worlds whose populations had been deliberately altered by the star league or were widely exposed to mutagenic chemicals but the super cancer is treatable. More extreme mutations are rarer, but not outside of the realm of possibility. Especially post-clans. Elementals and clan ASF pilots are freaks and they're still mostly just treated as people.

>>96166650
And then there's the fish people of Frobisher. They've only been encountered by explorers ready for anything and """pirates""" ready to exclusively steal all the left over star league medical tech, but they'd probably go over well with the IS in general if they could solve their unstable genetic doom. If nothing else, the Canopians would hire them for their pleasure circuses. Someone out there wants to fuck *real* mermaids.

>>96166553
Mechwarriors movement with more range of motion and also a higher base speed is just fine. It's mostly the range of motion limiting them to walking around in the fencing position that's the problem.
>>96166554
If tree clubbing, as gimmicky as it is, can be in the basic rules, so should grappling.
>>96166569
Does it count if the rule sucks so hard that it's clearly been designed to be nonviable?

>>96165827
>What occult sources do you consult to build such unusual things as a mech with a gasoline engine without pulling it out of thin air?
The Mega Mek Lab!

>>96166617
Sorry, that's Gothic Capellans.

>>96166729
>If nothing else, the Canopians would hire them for their pleasure circuses. Someone out there wants to fuck *real* mermaids.

>>96166569
>What is something that you could conceivably want to do in a game that DOESN'T have a rule?
Banning trannies from participating.

So is CGL still the king of embezzling funds and fucking over their people for no reason, or did VShojo just run their foams?

>>96167249
It's been 15 years since CGL did anything even slightly like that. Get over it and let it go.

>>96164070

>>96165760
>TSM
>Dual Saw
Wait, can the Dual Saw benefit from the TSM? I thought TSM didn't double construction equipment damage.

>>96167426
It doesn't. Clicktech retardation.

>>96167432
Oh ok, you'd think they'd have made TSM compatible since they were doing that Mad Max stuff for Dark Age.

>>96166591
we actually do have that from the very old DropShips and Jumpships. It's 100 Cbills/ton/jump

Why do jump ships have have so many heat sinks? Did jumping cause heat buildup in one version of the rules?

absolute BT cinema.

>>96167917
this looks horrendous
why plantigrade mad cats

>>96166729
They don't have tails, it won't scratch the itch.

>>96166650
>Elementals and clan ASF pilots are freaks and they're still mostly just treated as people.

The first Dark Age novel mentioned that a rich dude had a bunch of statues of people in various artistic poses, including Pilots and Elementals, so someone at least thinks that they're just human well, as human as any clanner

>>96167932
Oh fuck, now I can't unsee it.

>>96167932
>>96167917

AI slop.

>>96168123
predates AI slop, try again

You don't skip arm day, do you /btg/?

>>96168408
Which mech had dual pencil-sharpeners?

>>96168419
Bombard

>>96167917
that dance at 0:14 though

>>96168437
>50 tons
>2/3 with an xl engine

How? How do you mange a mech that bad?

>>96164070
Clan Snow Raven

>I like clan tech
>I like crows
>never got annihilated so I can play them in whatever era
>beta galaxy’s paint job fucks

I have individual lances/stars painted up for several other factions but nothing even remotely close to how many Beta Galaxy ravens I have.

>>96168623
Now you need to paint a Texas-class.

>>96168623
I never realized how much the Black Py - White Raven looks like a Champion.

>>96156499
The only Mechwarrior games I can recall that actually allowed for directional jump jet use somewhat close to how they are used in tabletop are MW2 and MW2mercs, but you had to set them up that way in the keybind settings. They're not setup correctly by default even though they're there that way through options. I setup the numpad for directional jump jets once and it made a world of difference in how readily I could shift targeting focus.
I don't recall it being an option in MW3 or MW4.

>>96168664
That one’s a 3D print of a kitbash by Highlandblues, I believe it has a lot of Champion parts from the MWO model in there somewhere.

>>96168659
I’m tempted to do a bunch of aerospace fighters too, even though I haven’t even learned the rules for aerospace yet.

>>96168761
I wonder if binding shift+wasd as jumping in that direction would be viable, maybe give some limited air control. Iirc in 4 you could hit the JJs, turn, and hit them again for some limited control.

>>96158058
MPBT Solaris in 1995/96

Do you guys ever use alternate ammo besides infernos or precision AC ammo?

>>96168860
No, but I should probably look into smoke or incendiary LRMs sometime. My brother has a habit of parking a sniper in the woods most games and I’d like to discourage that.

Think I’m gonna run this as my first lance

>>96166591
become the change you want to see. bcome the mega-tranport of cargo service. use your mech outfit to capture all the cargodroppers and jumpers. then become NOT COMSTAR, because you're the pony express. the MAIL SERVICE, star league edition. standardising all transport costs everywhere.

be the spacing guild.

>>96168860
Have you considered the magic of Tandem Charge warheads?

>>96169637
what site is that?

>>96169689
Reactor ops

>>96167917
Remember that the AI doesn't know what it's doing either.

>>96169786
that is why you have harjel'd UMU mechs with SRT, LRT.

>>96169710
Neato.

We need some Battletech Breakdancing.

>>96169866
They usually just pump industrial waste into the water. Worked for the Kuritas.

>>96170176
You'd think they'd be the MOST weary of pulling a Godzilla...

>>96163455
I'd enjoy watching a YT channel that focused on magnet fishing for guns and then restoring them. Too bad most guns found in water were stolen or used in crimes.

>>96170064
Best we can do is Raygun.

>>96170293
Well at least she moves like a robot.

>>96170293
I don't get why she got so much crap for that, breakdancing is already a fucking bad joke, all she did was accept that and go with it.
I mean did you see the guy she was "competing" with? walked up in fresh nikes sweats and a hoody with a beanie on like he was reppin his boys behind the school.

>>96170293
Why is andrew tate on the judges panel?

>>96170484
she's a freaking post wall ultra leftoid karen. whose 'partner' (beta simp beard) 'organised' the competition to select the australian contestants... so that almost all the actual breakdancers in australia never even heard of the 'competition'. which she also lost. and was 'selected' anyway.

she also has like 15 degrees. In feminist underwater basketweaving of colour territory.

literally breakdancing. she's some kind of deranged leftist academia nepo baby.

we hate her because she is clearly EVIL SCUM.

she's also tripled down on being evil. since the fucking cunt tried to sue people for making fun of her. she's a giant piece of shit.

>>96170501
I don't care what her backstory is, intended or not her performance was a meta judgement on the retardation of allowing that event into the olympics while there were weight brackets cut from wrestling and while real sports like baseball are not included.
Fuck's sake, Cheerleading has more merit as an olympic event than ghetto gangster street "dancing"

>>96170520
the point being, she's a white 40 + year old woman made out of bookworm fat. and she was sent up against 17 and 20 year olds made out of muscle and agility.

she was an utter fucking joke.

>>96170604
The entire thing was a fucking joke, she was just the one part of it that was actually funny.

>>96170520
Cheerleading is actually supposedly a very dangerous sport (all the human pyramids and shit can end in disaster if not done right).

>>96170758
If they're actually throwing each other around and climbing over each other, it's basically team gymnastics with a different set of routines. The cheerleaders that just stand around waving pom poms aren't doing much sportswise.

>>96170758
And making it an event instead of ghetto-wiggling would have actually attracted a younger audience, millions of men (young and old) would have tuned in just for the outfits.

>>96170520
>real sports like baseball
I understand the point of it is that it allows rich, old males to buy and sell negros.

>>96170859
No, they traffic in "underage" spics primarily, although 12 year old paco is probably in his 30's

>>96170507
RIP to one of the best Solaris entertainers in the biz

>>96170917
>They bought and sold Jesus
>repeatedly
Truly the successor of the Roman Empire.

>>96168860
I mostly use LRMs but I use the whole range of them. Streak, Artemis, Semi-Guided, Smoke, Follow-the-Leader, you name it

Do you have any mechs that you painted up as belonging to a certain house or faction, only to later realize it would be very rare or uncommon for them to possess such a mech? Yourdudes need not apply.

What would be the color scheme for Hohiro's Daishi and Teddy's Warhawk (iirc)?

>>96172338
Coordinator usually uses Otomo colors so Black and Gold IIRC. Otherwise, whatever unit they are assigned to like Teddy and the Arkabs.

>>96172326
I deliberately painted a Colonial Marshal Perseus. I don't have specific individual lore for any of my mechs, but it's either an exceptional mercenary who went native for a landhold or it's a hand-me-down from the Canopians (look, here's a valuable omnimech. Of course we're not just pawning off inconvenient to maintain units, this is a high tech mech!)

>>96172326
House Arano King Crab and Annihilator?

>>96172326
It is my goal in life to beat every motherfucker who uses a Crab 20 with a large and sturdy hickory stick.

>>96157401
>UNCOOL
>JAGERMECH
>BANSHEE
>STALKER
>STINGER
>DERVISH
>THUNDERBOLT
>AWESOME
>CICADA
>CLINT
you've been banned from bavion space.

>>96172692
>falling for bait
Literally designed to farm (you)

>>96164070
snow ravens are the best clan
outworlds are my favourite

got distracted with stalker memes. 2nd ostroc or ostsol to fill out egg lance?

>>96172700
>Literally designed to farm (you)
What isn't anymore? There's no good discussion left here. It's just bait and culture wars and bottom posting bad quality porn. NEA hasn't posted in the better part of a month even.

>>96172965
>bottom posting bad quality porn
Hey! Sabu is a national treasure who knows how to treat a lady and I apologize for nothing.