Thread 96158868

Majesty of Mousillon Edition

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>Warhammer Chronicles:
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>Time of Legends:
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>The End Times:
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>Alternative Models:
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>FAQ/Errata
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>Previous Thread:
>>96151608

>Thread Question:
Do you have a dream Fantasy project? What's stopping you from starting?

>>96158840
That's dope, when did you finish that?

>>96158898
Hmm, I think like or 2021 was the last unit I made.( I made like 30 pistoliers) thought since it’s just lots of fun I just kept making characters and occasional bloated corpses since.
Pics just a medley of coast I was planning to use in a skirmish game.

We claim this thread as our rightful property.

>TQ
A cathayan wuxia army.
>what’s stopping you
The army just seems so uninspired, both rule and model wise. I’ll focus on my other warhammer armies until Cathay stops being a micro faction, and no, I don’t give a shit about Miao ying or empire allies.

>>96158868 (OP)
>TQ
An ostermark army. Knights of Morr, witchhunters, and a usual mix of dudes. Maybe get some magyar/carparthian inspired heads n hats
>what's stopping me
I gotta finish my current army, and then time and money. Mostly time.

>>96158929
Sick tricornes

>>96158936
How is this mofo making Models with one arm?

>>96159076
Greenstuff.

>>96159070
Not yet either, doubly annoying as I ordered a war dancer command to get freeshipping (I have 9 6th ed ones so they match) and I haven't gotten any news. Let hope the MTO didn't get delayed like the release.

Fuckin MOOOOO bitch

>>96159163
I ordered ghoross as well and he hasn't come yet.

>>96159327
Well they say they have 180 days to fulfill it and we know beastmen are always on the lower end of priority so.....well guess my bestigor standard will proxy as BSB till Christmas.

>>96158868 (OP)
>Do you have a dream Fantasy project?
My next project will be a Chorf army.
>What's stopping you from starting?
I am broke and can't afford shit until I get a job.

Chaos Spawn done!

>>96159539
Paint is alright but you gotta have more fun with the kit bruv
Sus mine

>>96159239
Hell yeah. Are you free handing the banner or transfers?

>>96159685
Will have another go at free handing.
First attempt on my gor banner was ass, I had a look through the beastmen alphabet and did the shamans name but it's kinda doodoo

>>96159702
The good thing with beastmen that it still looks fitting even though it looks like smeared shit. I used transfer sheet myself

>>96159716
Nice Gors bro,
Unfortunately my Gors would defile your herd and defecate on the corpse of your warlord after ripping each member limb from limb

I really like chaos in WH, and I'd like to have (in some years) a huge chaos alliance, with several armies blended together.
Is it possible in any game? Or do I just have to go:
AoS -> StD, skavens, chorfs, god specific armies
ToW -> Chaos warriors, Beastmen

Isn't there really an "all armies together" option in a single game?

>>96159076
There's actually some images of him doing that in old WDs, back when they were hyping up the original version of LotRSBG. He had to learn to use his off-hand to sculpt because he was right-handed.

In other news, despite what people tell you- the Green Knight story's gotten scuffed over the years. People tell you it was the one he was sculpting when the cannon accident happened- he actually finished it *before* he lost the arm.

The actual first model he made after the accident was Repanse.

>>96159076
he has a pincer, do you not know the story about the green kinght?

>warhammer RPG E*f Player Handbook
>has all kind of classes EXCEPT the only good elves, the white lions
Disappointing!

>>96159742
I forget but the End Times Archaon book might have rules for allying a bunch of Chaos units together in the same army.

what citadel color would be best to paint the copper of the cathay cannons?

>>96159902
Wait, Cathay's in Warhammer, finally?

>>96159910
released 3 weeks ago, yes.

>>96159921
Neat. They have the second best cannons in the video game.

>>96159926
yeah, painting that thing atm. just wondering what copper color they used for the model.

>>96159742
Try Grand Alliance: Chaos in Age Of Sigmar 1st edition, 2nd generals handbook

>>96159932
Oh, please, PLEASE show it once it's done.

Making a dragonlad from an archon studios kit, dont think hes too far from being done I just need to choose/make a suitable helmet for him
>>96159850
>>96159742
8th Edition Legions of Chaos/End Times lists basically let you slap almost any chaotic shit like daemons, warriors, chorfs, beastmen etc you wanted together, and storm of magic had extra shit you could sprinkle in like mammoths and exalted greater daemons.

>>96159952

Looking great anon, very Galrauch art.

I'm not sure if it's actually smaller, but the dragon's got a skinnier/lankier build than GW ones, you should go for a smaller, even helmetless head on the rider, so it doesn't look too weighed down. Something like the champion on these guys could work, he's got a tiny, sunken head, but still looks suitably intimidating.

>>96159952
That looks great!

>>96159985
The kit was smaller than I was expecting yeah, hes about the same size as Galrauch, quite a bit smaller than the AoS dragons, but for a non-emperor dragon thats s6 t6 w6 I feel like the size is about right.
Makes for easier transport too lol
>>96160039
Thanks lad

>>96159952
Great WIP Anon, for myself I was planning to mix up two of their dragons (the one you used and the zombie one).

Miao Ying when?

for Tomb King Royal Host, how many chariots would you run in a unit?

Should I put my spellsinger inside the sisters of thorn unit or have her go solo?

One of the things missing from wfb is the neoprene objective circles

>>96160442
those were added in the match play guide

>>96160442
they should make ones that light up when you capture the hecking objective

just like my video games

>>96160442
while I understand not liking the circles from narrative elements, it takes out any arguments as to whether your unit is or is not on an objective so I'm all for em

>>96160468
Why would you even play with people who "argue" over something so silly? And if you're the homo arguing, why not just give your opponent the benefit of doubt? Are games not intended for enjoyment after all?

>>96160476
>Why would you even play with people who "argue" over something so silly?
The WAAC mindset is the answer

>>96160442
TOW is so shit it can't even accommodate shitty L shaped ruins without breaking the game

GW revealed this month that Hashut was once a mortal. He ascended to godhood in the far past.
Any opinions on this?

>>96160561
it was a common fan theory already and beats the lazier chaosfaggotry of "he was a sockpuppet of khorne all along"
I'm putting my money on a son of gazul, and brother of skavor.

>>96160476
because I like playing games and not everyone is as chill as you would like? like its not that hard to envision I feel

>>96160561
nuGW lore isn't canon. It's like Amazon writing new lore for Lord of the Rings, it doesn't count and anyone who takes it seriously is a retard

>>96160572
>immediately begins arguing defensively
I found the problem

>>96160573
but its the offical lore and so are the end times.
your feelings dont matter.

>>96160578
nuGW isn't the official creators of Warhammer, it's a necromancer playing with its corpse

>>96160578
>offical lore
Lol cope more

Since they introduced Cathaih as a faction, the Kislevites will also do so in the future, right?

>>96160496
Is this perrynigger?

Best combo to do with this guy? Is it bow of loren + muster of malevolents + swiftshiver shards like it says in 1d6?

>>96160595
I fkin love kislevites

>>96160468
or you could just build an awesome piece of terrain/diorama with a circular base of the requisite size

>>96160595
I don't think so because his real-life counterpart is at war.

>>96160595
correct, some rumors say as soon as this winter

>>96159076
Especially considering he has SOVL and sculpts everything by 'hand'(singular), meanwhile nuGW sculptors have twice as many hands and still have to rely on CADslop and ChatGPT... Sad!

>>96160561
>>96160573
I mean it's fine. there's precedent for both dwarfs worshipping their ancestors as gods and for chaos champions rising to demi-godhood. and ancient mortals becoming gods is thematic for warhammer generally. so the god of the chaos dwarfs being a former chaos dwarf champion isn't jarring.

by contrast: >>96160569
every variant of the "all gods are just facets of the chaos gods" shtick is the worst kind of nuGW trash lore. yes, there is some old fluff that backs the idea up, but it was always on the level of "ramblings of a madman in a cave, as transcribed by sir gustave the just, later burned for heresy" unreliable narrator. to try and make a setting like warhammer where everything is coherent and explicable and all the loose ends are tied up is to make it a pile of shit.

>>96160613
Poland's at war?

>>96160606
that works too but people always take the path of least resistance and so you end up with them instead

>>96160651
All good, those people can play on tables that reflect their efforts like >>96160442. Couldn't be me tho.

>>96160561
>GW revealed this month that Hashut was once a mortal
for a totally different franchise, yep, not sure what it has to do with us though.

>>96160643
I'm not talking about the current war, the one being waged against a separatist rebel state.

>>96160586
they are though and they decide what the lore is.
cope harder

>>96160706
kek you're the same type of nigga that takes Disney Star wars seriously

>>96160669
because the AoS hashut is the same from WHFB

>>96160656
based

>>96160656
>stop having fun wrong

>>96160709
you are the one crying about lore, not me.

>>96160669
>for a totally different franchise, yep
Nope. It's not totally different since characters and gods from Fantasy are the same ones in AoS.
Although some gods suffered changes from one setting to another (like Grimnir dying or Morathi becoming a goddess), most of their fluff remained the same; and if it's revealed that Hashut - the chaos god that turned the Dawi of the Darklands into Dawi-Zharr - and been previously an ancestor god, then that retcon applies to both AoS and Fantasy.

>>96160750
>no u!
incredible

>>96160762
how childish

>>96160476

This. Don't play with sub CCG/vidya twats

Anyone got any brotips for a good proxy for a Mortis Engine/Coven Throne?
I've got one 3d printed off raging heroes but honestly it's too ornate and fiddly for my tastes and i'm debating if I should even paint it. (similar issue with the official GW one)

>>96159742
Talk to your opponent. Honestly you should be fine bringing whatever you want, as long as you aren't picking the waac options from every faction.

>>96159602
> Loser can't make a decision
Lmao at this fag

>>96160468
> Arguments over whether someone is in range of an objective
Sounds like you play with fags

>>96159742
End times did that for chaos but at that point GW didn't give a fuck anymore.
Some of the armies have allies you can slot in. And no, there isn't an 'all options army's in any GW game, they don't want you to save money they want you to purchase an entire army for each

>>96160476
> Unpainted shit
> AoS circles and ovals
Why would you post this? Don't you feel ashamed?

>>96160601
Every SLAV should die, and double so for SLAV LOVERS like this faggot >>96160689
KiSLAV is a shit faction with a shitty, DISGUSTING aesthetic based on the 'culture' of disgusting apes. The only positive from including them in the game is being able to kill them on the battlefield

>>96160482
People advocating for vagueness that can be exploited are more likely WAAC fags anon

>>96160965
>wondering which country would harbor such hatred towards slavs in general

>>96160965
let's see that physique,.tough guy kek

>>96160965
anglo hands typed this

>>96161017
>anglo
but why? historically, their people have had zero touchpoints

>>96160712
False

>>96160759
Very compelling, I'm not interested in whatever asspull the focus groups came up with for their new and totally distinct franchise though.

>>96160994
Bitch can you even bench 300lbs?
If you can't you best check that fucking tone and lower your eyes when you speak, or even type, at me

>>96160984
That narrows it down to 'every country that has ever interacted with slavs or has a slave immigrant population.'

>>96160747
They can have fun however they like on their 2D tables with their neoprene circles, more power to them

>>96159742
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned that in 6th ed you were able to run warriors, daemons, and beastmen all in one army by using the two chaos army books. Chaos dwarfs didn't have an army book, but with a bit of finagling you could use the ravening hordes (they did have a RH list, right?) list too, and of course you could make an army of skaven to use as allies, if you wanted to. Seriously, why do we have more people suggesting you play AoS or 8th and not 6th? Maybe we really have been overrun by 8thfags, AoSfags, and ToWfags... it would explain why the threads have been so awful recently. Anyway, enough with this "god-specific army" nonsense! That's what marks were for! Read the 6th edition army books! You don't need god-specific army books when you can make perfectly suitable mono-god armies already! Stop playing bad editions with bad army books and go play 6th.

>>96160965
How furious, he is definitely Ukrainian.

>>96161048
At this point WAP is the superior edition and it's not even close.

>>96161048
>they did have a RH list, right?
Yes indeed, not only that but apparently it was also the most playtested and optimised of all the RH lists because they knew at the time of writing that chorfs wouldn't be getting an army book.

>>96161031
>diverts to bench PR
Yeah you're fat kek

>>96160496
BAP was perrynigger all along some deep lore implications with this one

Since we have two communist factions in The Old World, we can wait for the Indi and Khuresh kingdoms in the future, right?

>>96161133

Ok I'll bite, Cathay and...?

>>96159748
i do not

>>96161133
You can wait, but you won't get anything

>>96160599
That or the hail of doom for 1x a game anti blob shot

>>96161156
Orcs and beastmen you racist. Just because they are chinese doesnt mean they are communist

>>96161048
Obvious bait is obvious
>perrynigger all over the thread
The facts you guys are replying to someone who's only lifts are per them admittedly Facebook posts is telling, just ignore and report

is this really the worst warhammer general on this site?

>>96161282
What are you even trying to say

>>96161343
do you want aos?

>>96159702
Looks fine to me
Can always go out on any chariot Heros or bestigors for banners. For gor it looks fine.
>>96159742
All those no game replies, you ha e alliances baked into TOW and most editions of WHFB. Literally read the book.

>>96161343
Nah 40kg exists
>>96161092
> Can't bench
So when do you a

>>96161392
allies are kinda dumb desu anon

>>96161092
> Can't bench
So when do you start your HRT anon?

>>96161343
2nd only to 40k, as always.

>>96161073
> Ukrainian
Also gross slavs but if they kill some Russian slavs I'll give them a slight pass.
> Wfg
Ummmm lizardmen when GW?

I am going tobe facing a night gobbo themed army tomorrow. Guy seems sound, hope for a mutual bloodbath but only one question: Fanatics

How exactly can I tank the initial damage from fanatic releasing?

AFAIK, even if I charge him, he can dump 3 fanatics for autohits into my unit the next turn.

>>96161465
There's very little you can do other than bait long charges, or use some spell vortexes to block them or risk then sploding.

>>96161282
That's not bait, that's my genuine opinion. What the fuck happened to these threads? Perryfag needs to hang, at least we can agree on that. That is that and this is this.

>>96161281
They're kleptocracies. Which is like communism but with less pretentiousness.

>>96161482
Welp. Death or glory it is! Can I conform the fanatics can be released from anywhere? Front, flank etc

>>96161507
Yes, anywhere within 3 inches. do remember he is limited to 1 per 10 gobbos max of 3. If he has more than 6 fanatics I wouldn't bother playing him as he is a massive faggot.

>>96161536
Bit late for that, already arranged. I will see how it goes. Will report back.

>>96161465
You could try baiting them out as fast as possible with fast moving units.
It’s high risk high reward, but popping them early means they have a higher chance of just killing themselves before they do real damage or they wheel around back into the other night goblins

>>96161488
>What the fuck happened to these threads?
The same thing that happened to /tg/ generally. People who contribute meaningfully moved to other venues.
The other big thing is that TOW dropped.
This created a division between grogs, who still haven't forgiven GW, and new fags and consumers.
An anon got butt hurt that people mocked for his round based perry minis. He's become a dedicated troll exploiting the grog/consooomer divide.
Sprinkle, culture war shit, and people not being able to ignore trolls and one of the best generals has become one of the worst.

>>96161567
I got two units of 5 hounds and will have 3 ogres to potentially bait. Considering my army, guess its the best thing. Ironically my marauders could be used too but they're so splatty I rather keep them in reserve to do damage.

Thanks mind.

>>96161536
>Anon hates fun

>>96161488
If its been 20+ years and you're still this hostile to the majority of the community, it's time to reassess your life. Even pre TOW 6th was not the most popular even if often seen as a apex edition in hindsight. And if you spat this much bile here before TOW people would have assumed your baiting or not worth the effort.TOW currently has a pretty good ruleset rivaling 6th and has revitalized the community so why not spend your time encouraging people to play 6th instead of showing them only malajusted grogs who hate everything but their narrow vision of fantasy play 6th?
I get some of the anger tho, especially since Cathay got announced we've been raided constantly by people with 0 intent to ever roll a single dice. Just don't take it out on people playing a supported and at worst decent edition of TOW

>>96161678
>of TOW
Meant that is TOW

>>96161678
Being surprised that nobody mentioned one of the 4 editions which gave chaos exactly what that anon was asking for without having to rely on End Times books/playing another system is not "bile". Calling people -fags is not "bile", nor is it hostility, where do you think you are? But, fine, I should have been more clear in my wording. Personally, I completely disagree about TOW rivaling 6th. I've played TOW, over a dozen games of it even, and I don't like it as much as I do 6th. I'd go as far as to say I actually quite dislike TOW. It has boring army books (not that the army lists are even worthy of being called that) and has horrendous balance that incentivizes building annoying and gameist lists. Don't get me wrong, I've had fun with TOW, but I've also seen what happens when it's played competitively and it just isn't good. Anyway, if you really took that extremely mild banter as "bile" and "hostility", you should unwad your panties.

>>96161764
Playing WHFB competitively is almost always a shitshow regardless of edition

>>96161658
> Spamming fanatics
> 'fun'

>>96161678
I heard on the internet, I think from a YouTuber whose opinions on WHFB I generally respect, say that 7th with 6th edition army books is the best way to play WHFB.
Can anyone comment?

So I want to get into TOW with (printed) chorfs, and I was hoping I could get some listbuilding advice for that. I've got a 1k entry point list going to start with, but would anyone have any feedback for it here? Anything I should remove or add or change around?

>>96161764
Competitive TOW is definitely worse than competitive 6th (which wasn't that good to begin with) but I think that's largely a function of 6e not relying on killing entire units, rather on breaking them with morale, and having a much more limited cap on the achievable power of an individual character/unit. I think there are aspects of TOW that are better than 6e: the TOW rules let you make much more rules-interesting units, and the magic items in TOW are definitely superior to 6e.

>>96162129
Don't put banners in your hobgrots. The rest is fine, whatever. It's a 1k game just have fun

>>96162122
Yes and no
6th ed has some good things going for it. It was a reset after 5th ed so herohammer was scaled way back. Heros are pretty dull for the most part but units are generally balanced against eachother. High elves begin their primacy and dark elves are shit but balance is as good as it gets till TOW. Also 6th can be very slow to play, lots of rules and bookkeeping spells etc. It can play sort of bland but solid.
I think one reason 8th always stayed much more popular is while a total mess, the larger scale and massive swings are more epic. Just for every game turning event is 2 retarded blowouts.

I think TOW is probably the best version of fantasy all things taken into account. It’s not perfect and some things are much worse than in other editions ( how magic works ) but on the whole it’s pretty damn great.

>>96159932
>just wondering what copper color they used for the model.
Looks more like brass to me.

Any tips for collecting Chaos Dwarfs? Love the original designs but an entire metal army doesn't sound fun so I'm shopping around for proxies. If anyone has personal experience with some then let me know. The few proxies I've had proonted ended up being lemons so I'd rather get something reliable.

>>96162242
From my limited understanding, 7th was like a patched 6th UNTIL they started releasing books for it, and then Matt Ward broke the entire game. Is this accurate?
I do recall some bullshit with Monstrous Infantry still needing to be 5 wide for a single rank which was bullshit

>>96162403
there’s a few different choices available rn, scroll through the last 2-3 threads and you’ll see them
(I don’t own any so I can’t comment as to quality/other concerns/etc)

>>96162403
Wartable has some resin Legion of Azgorh stuff if you're into them, but if you want more classic-looking Chorfs then Fabelzel on Etsy makes nice looking classic-style bighat Chorfs.

>>96162407
Yeah, I don't remember much of 7th because my buddy played daemons and rofltstomped us into us waiting till he got wood elves (who were kind of gay to fight but at least evaporated in melee)

>>96162129
Fireglaives are both for fighting and for shooting and thus should have more models. Maybe 6 wide, 3 deep

>>96162129
Don't waste points by giving hobgobs armor

>>96162263
TOW is the only version you have even played, and that's giving you the benefit of the doubt, because it's highly likely you haven't even played a game of TOW either

>>96162511
I'll add that his hobgobbos tend to be the best recreation of the og sculpts

>>96162129
Bull centaur unit is pretty meaty. I'd split it in two so you can harass both flanks. Fireglaives are good but their range sucks as your main gunline unit. I'd maybe cut down on bull centaurs to get an artillery piece in like deathshrieker (best arty piece for its points).

>>96162403
Abyssal dworfs from Kings of War

>inb4 lel mantic shit

>>96162403
>Love the original designs but an entire metal army doesn't sound fun
fabelzel

>>96162538
Lol.Lmao.

>>96162403
>The few proxies I've had proonted ended up being lemons
In what way? I've printed a few armies now, maybe I can help either with what to look for in a printer or which model ranges to look for that will print well etc. Here's a couple of my prints to act as my resume

God damn Perrynigger seems to be on his period with how much vitriol he’s been spewing in this thread.

so cathay will get ranged troops in the form of empire state troops from now on
im not a big total war guy but as they are asian the safest bet would be to invest into painting handgunners amirite

Any new Dogs of War/Border Princes leaks?

>>96162767

Just wait until the Army of Infamy's properly previewed and paint Cathay stuff in the meantime anon. For all we know right now, the only Empire units included in it could be Flagellants and War Wagons.

>>96162768
No, there are no leaks.

>>96162768
No leaks on here just one schizo
I think he might have gotten a three day vacation

>>96162767
In the next edition Cathay will get another wave with shit like crane gunners. Just be patient

So with HH being DOA I assume this will leave specialist games with more time to focus on TOW.

>>96162767
This makes me want to buy some Japanese models to make a "Cathay" army.

>>96162768
entire Perry catalogue MTO

>>96162403

Lost kingdom chaos dwarfs were pretty good in my experience. Warp miniatures went for a more cartoonish and exaggerated style, which I also happen to like quite a lot, but the models don't have big hats.

Do not buy mantic abyssal dwarfs, their quality is really bad, pic related.

>>96160873
what style or theme are you after?

>>96162403

Here are some comparison pictures I just made of different chorfs on my vitrine. Mantic, lost kingdom and warp miniatures.

>>96163014

Here are gunners from mantic, warp miniatures and lost kingdom.

>>96163014
>>96163018

And bull centaurs from fabelzel and warp miniatures. Much too small for the 75x50 bases, mind you.

>>96162858
Why would HH be DoA? Do we already have pre-order numbers?

>>96162858
That's naive of you, gw will push towards shrimplifying hh until the pigs pay, and then will do the same with tow.

>>96163014
>>96163018
>>96163027
The goofiness of Warp is definitely my favorite.
>Much too small for the 75x50 bases, mind you.
I kinda like the idea of them absolutely swimming on a 50x75. Like they're way more dangerous than they look.

>>96163070

They're STLs so you absolutely can scale them to be bigger.

>>96163035
>>96163037
One of the largest distributors in Europe increased their discount from 20% to 35% on the 3.0 launch box today. It’s DOA.

>>96163037
>gw will push towards shrimplifying hh until the pigs pay
how did they manage to ruin a game so fast, i know it got new edition some time ago

>>96163070
You could fill the base with cracks in the ground and flames

>>96163090
go ask /hhg/ instead of shitting up here

>>96163090
Can’t ruin what was already dogshit

>>96162858
I’m still prioritizing 3.0 over tow. This shits too gamey for me. If the new journals don’t make the game more fluffy I’m just gonna sell my tomb kings.

>>96163122
3.0 is confirmed DOA but you do you anon. If you don’t like TOW then maybe fantasy simply isn’t your game. Nothing wrong with that.

>>96163135
>DOA
For people who don’t play games, sure.

>>96163180
whats doa

>>96163191
Dead or Alive.

Weird name for porn, I know, but it turns out they made games with the character so they were lucky with that name.

>>96163191
Dead or Alive. Horus Heresy is now a bikini babe volleyball game. Enjoy

>>96163090

They are doing preorders for 3E right now but someone has ragedumped the full rulebook and army lists out of spite.
Basically
> no models no rules in full sweep
> massive culling of options to the point where fringe armies are potentially completely invalidated
> rulebook is written in full legalese with multiple paragraphs to explain every single mechanic
> game plays like shit with the usual GW jank
> starter set is stuffed full of ugly models
> full DLC release schedule of monthly journal releases

>>96163191
Dead on arrival.
>>96163087
50% seems like the doa cut off to me.

>>96162746
>no game pics
Lol indeed

>>96163213
35% discount on pre orders is pretty DOA. It doesn’t even come out until Saturday. Expect 50% off within a few months.

>>96163210
>> rulebook is written in full legalese with multiple paragraphs to explain every single mechanic
Is that bad?

>>96163210
who fucking cares, go cry in /hhg/

>>96163296
>who fucking cares
the guy who asked, you fucking retard

>>96163280

Yes.
Observe, 7 paragraphs of rules to explain how to make your Imperial Fists shoot themselves in the dick

>>96163003
My army is leaning into the regular undead and necromancer army than anything to do with vampires and i'd prefer something closer to the stylings of older Warhammer 8th or older i.e. less ornate and bulky than the current GW model and proxies which to me scream being designed to double as a Coven Throne and being made for AoS style. (although I wouldn't mind if it's a bit more fantastical and detailed than taking an empire war wagon and adding skeletons to it if you catch my drift)
Currently my army is a mix of Highland Miniatures minis, Monstrous Encounters undead and a few slightly more ornate kitbashes for elite units.

>>96158868 (OP)
>Do you have a dream Fantasy project?

Painting all of my current dwarfs and then expand the throng to be (eventually) 5k+ miniatures. I'm about 1/5 there in terms of total miniatures with about 1000 in my collection and about 300 painted dwarfs.

I have models from many different manufacturers and from different era from mid 70's lead models to some of the latest 3D printed STLs.

>What's stopping you from starting?
no one, there's shit going on in my life right now that has slowed me down, but on average I paint pretty regularly.

>>96163303
Go to your thread then, almost like majority of people in the fantasy thread don't care about the 40k specialist game. Retard.

>>96163397
sorry i asked and stop calling them specialist games because they havent existed in over 15 or so years
now lets stop siderailing this thread already

>>96163378
I've had this idea for a long time to make a mortis engine by making a floating chunk of graveyard. Like the necromancer is standing in front of a desecrated crypt with eerie (led) lights.
Maybe a flight stand made out of chains and ghosts.

>>96163090
what do you mean "so fast"? HH was fine for a good 2 or 3 years after Bligh died.
obviously they're going to ruin it eventually since nuGW ruins everything they touch, but you had time enough to sell your shit and get out. no point complaining about it now.

>>96163080
was gonna point out how obvious that is but then I remembered the audience

>>96163382
Based and army max pilled
Keep us posted.

>>96162504
Good idea, Chorfs are probably on lots of peoples' mind now thanks to the GW rerelease.

>>96162511
I'll have a look.

>>96162601
I'm not SUPER picky, I'll look at all my options. I did like some of the Mantic options like the Chorf sorcerer.

>>96162642
These might be the best thing I've seen so far!

>>96162758
By lemon I mean I got models that had all kinds of design and production issues. The designs themselves were brittle with most models arriving in a crumbling state. Some spearmen, for example, had spears that were thinner than a toothpick, so they were all snapped and too thin to even attempt to glue back. And the prints themselves came out wrong and not as crisp with details melting into the model. These were from someone who was at least well reviewed and seemed reliable on Etsy. Your pic, for example, looks stellar. The ones I got were nothing of that quality.

>>96162941
I wasn't a fan of the hats here, but I think the props are amazing. Definitely something I'll grab to put on the table.

>>96162941
>>96163014
>>96163018
>>96163027
Neat, thanks. I have to say I'm really feeling the Fabelzel sculpts.

Thanks to all for the input and great ideas. Even if it wasn't exactly what I was looking for, I did find a bit of something everywhere. As a small last note I'm also thinking of getting pic related old Chorf style Chorfs for fun. Love the sculpts here. Not sure what I'd run them as tho. Maybe just Infernal Guard.

>>96163451
seems like a good idea for a conversion. doesn't need any fancy parts either. go for it.

>>96163467
>By lemon I mean I got models that had all kinds of design and production issues. The designs themselves were brittle with most models arriving in a crumbling state. Some spearmen, for example, had spears that were thinner than a toothpick, so they were all snapped and too thin to even attempt to glue back. And the prints themselves came out wrong and not as crisp with details melting into the model. These were from someone who was at least well reviewed and seemed reliable on Etsy. Your pic, for example, looks stellar. The ones I got were nothing of that quality.
it sounds like the printer you hired is just terrible. try to return that shit and get your money back. it's trivially easy to print high quality 28mm figures even with a casual at-home-hobby setup, so there's zero excuse for a pro fucking up like that.

>>96163467

Mom miniatures also have a more cartoonish set of chorf STLs, they come with the big hats. Knightmare miniatures did metal chaos dwarfs quite similar to the ones you just posted.

>>96163382
Good on you anon.

>>96163467
this anon here is doing nice clean prints >>96162758 but anyone selling prints online should be able to match that quality. dont accept that shit. files aren't an excuse either (unless they're your shitty files and you insisted). if someone is selling prints for files they know have problems that's their problem.
if they're selling it, shit should come clean, crisp details, good durable resin, no supports. anything else send that shit back and get your money, or bury their asses in bad reviews. minimum fucking standards of behavior.

>>96163467
+1 for Fabazel
The fact it covers the entire range now other people have remixed it and is free is the icing on it

>>96163451
Sounds like a cool idea but i'm only a kitbasher and not a sculptor unfortunately, I haven't actually seen that many good crypt sculpts or anything like that stand.

>>96162403
Scans of the 4th ed originals exist for resin printing.
Fabelzel is likely the best attempt at a third party approximating the originals.
Lost Kingdoms have some closer to the Forge World stuff.
Warp Miniatures have some meant to look like the 3rd edition Chorfs pre-mesopotamian influence.
White angel miniatures have some as well.

>>96163467
>Good idea, Chorfs are probably on lots of peoples' mind now thanks to the GW rerelease.
They're also more fun to run now thanks to the new Renegade rules since you can go elite heavy and only field like 40-50 units total without it being utterly shit instead of having a zillion hobgobs and black orcs.

>>96163615
This is incredible. Is this a recaster or STL maker?

>>96163835
Not quoted but that's an STL Fabelzel remix of an iron daemon by Max152 found with the rest of Fabelzel's stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZgEh9rOfvo

This guy already did it.

>>96163467
I'm the guy who showed the two printed chorfs (which are fabelzel by the way, if you hadn't realised by now lol)

TL;DR: make sure your printer is printing in an ABS-like or toughness resin, at a layer height of ideally 0.03mm and certainly no larger than 0.05mm, and is thoroughly washing the prints to get excess resin off - and if they aren't, ask for a refund. Better yet, find a local guy who can do your prints e.g. in your LGS or gaming group or something. Or check out principenero on Etsy.

>By lemon I mean I got models that had all kinds of design and production issues. The designs themselves were brittle with most models arriving in a crumbling state. Some spearmen, for example, had spears that were thinner than a toothpick, so they were all snapped and too thin to even attempt to glue back.
Sounds like a mix of poor resin and sculpts that are not optimised for 3d printing. Some resins are better than others, after testing many resins I personally use sunlu ABS-like mixed 50:50 with sunlu toughness. The final prints feel like injection moulded plastic in the hand, they have a degree of flex to them, and they can survive a drop or two without breaking. You can even drill into them easily. If your printer was using cheap standard resin then yeah it'll be incredibly brittle and break even through regular game handling, I've used standard resins before and snapped models just by bracing my pinky finger against them while painting.

[1/2]

What's the most terrain heavy game of TOW you've played in and how did you think it worked with the rules?

I'm thinking of picking it up (players at my LGS) but the thing I don't like most about games is when the only terrain you get are a couple of trees and two symmetrical hills so if the rules make anything else terrible to play I want to know that upfront.
How terrain heavy can you get before the rules get in the way is more my concern. Obviously i'm not talking tournament stuff here but friendly games dicing off who gets to pick starting side, does the game suck playing like that or does it work fine?

>>96163467
>>96164163
>And the prints themselves came out wrong and not as crisp with details melting into the model. These were from someone who was at least well reviewed and seemed reliable on Etsy.
People have varying expectations when it comes to print quality and sadly this does affect etsy ratings imo. Before I got my first printer I ordered a print off a well-reviewed Etsy seller, the print arrived and blew my mind and I left a very positive review - but looking back on it now, I can see all the corners the seller cut. Since print time depends on layer height, Etsy sellers will use the most egregious layer heights just to get orders printed as fast as possible so they can fulfill more orders. This results in a model with lots of visible layer lines, which are especially obvious after drybrushing.
As for details melting into the model, that sounds like loose resin has been cured onto the model. When finished prints come out the vat, they are still coated in viscous resin which should be washed off the final print with (in most cases) isopropyl alcohol. Then the print goes through a final round of UV curing. If you skimp on the IPA wash, or your IPA is saturated with resin from many prior washes, you won't clean the model properly, and then any leftover loose resin will get "baked" onto the model when you put it under the UV light. Which, again, are only issues if the printing guy cuts corners. Easy grounds for a refund.

>Your pic, for example, looks stellar. The ones I got were nothing of that quality.
Thanks friend, it's all just practice!

If you like the fabelzel sculpts then check out principenero on Etsy. He is the son of Max152, who has taken over the fabelzel project to expand the range with new sculpts. Max152 is slowly releasing his new designs as STLs but has given his son a headstart on selling the prints for a few months first. From my somewhat experienced printer's eye, his quality looks good, so might be worth a shot. Good luck!

>>96164168
we started throwing terrain from 6th edition rulebook random terrain chart so everyone is happy

Anyone here playing Druchii in TOW? How do they measure up being legends and all? I wanted to dip into that nice cold oneussy and bring a buch of knights and chariots. Am I cooked?

>>96163219
NTA and admittedly only started in 8th edition but I'd have to look a good far back to find pics of me playing even shortly before TOW came out, or hell even just a picture of me playing any wargame as I don't generally take pics of it unless it's a particularly cool looking game.

>>96164365
Dark Elves are one of the best armies in the game right now

>>96164365
They’re dogshit

>>96164406
>>96164412
Which ona you niggers lying?
Sike, I already know you be samefagging

>>96164466
Look at the times of the post, no samefag. I'm one of them not going to tell you which tho

>>96164168
>the thing I don't like most about games is when the only terrain you get are a couple of trees and two symmetrical hills
You're better off playing a different game. Look into some fantasy skirmish games. Check out AWG.

T0W at least pretends to be a mass battle game that means two big armies clashing on a mostly open field. Like historicals. That one hill or fence or cusp of trees might seem small, but but can make a very big difference on the outcome of a battle.

>>96164477
Time aint even linear in here, you be phonepostin, ontologically.

>>96164493
>T0W at least pretends to be a mass battle game that means two big armies clashing on a mostly open field. Like historicals.
Historicals aren't averse to playing with terrain and obstacles.

>>96164365
I've heard they generally perform mid: dragons and monsters and magic good, infantry perform poorly for cost. Shards with shields got a boost recently but your dragonlord got a nerf.

Some threads ago someone mentionned that Aliathra's rapt story was from a White Dwarf, not an army book.
I couldn't check the White Dwarfs he mentionned (379 or 380) but i checked the army book and the whole story is in the VC army book.

>>96164168
This pic makes me ERECT

>>96164493
You're coping, most historical games use a shit ton of terrain, even rank and flanks. Only GW fags go low effort on terrain
>inb4 perrynigger
Yep

>>96164557
I really want to get a master on cold one chariot to smash these fuckers and grind them to a pulp. Maybe he brings a friend too, is that okay?

>>96164659
I think chariot lords are fine, and cold ones are ok for cav- someone else might have better insight- other than stupidity can fuck you as always. Just a giant fucking asshole might ruin the fun but assuming your opponent isnt an ass it should be fine.

Which models have flared shoulder armour? Need for a conversion

>>96164763
For what model are we trying to convert?

>>96164656
Not in Mass battle games. No.
Also: stfu perrynigger.

>>96165148
The pic I posted has a much higher model count than TOW you dumb nigger

>>96165148
Don't respond to perrynigger he of his own admission doesn't even play games. Ofc he wouldn't know, he's just trying to derail the thread.

>>96165199
So? Take your skirmish game somewhere else. We're talking about rank and flank.

>>96165208
It was kind of eye opening when he posted a straight up incorrect assumption about a basic rule a few days ago. I thought he shit on it because he disliked TOW, but it turns out he doesn't even know the basic rules and attacks it because he is bitter and bored.

>>96164763
some minotaur models do (might be too big for standard units though)

>>96164519
They aren't. But terrain heavy boards are definitely anomalies in rank and flank games.

it's always obvious that he has never actually set foot inside a LGS when he goes on a tangent about terrain and the carefully curated WD pics start flooding the thread

>>96160873
Yeah, I do. The official GW one.

>>96165240
I mean not only TOW, he literally doesn't play games. He admitted he makes diorama since no one will play with him, and then tried to say he steals all his pics off Facebook as a cover up. Either way that's how sad this guy is. Just ignore.

>>96159680
it's my first spawn, I tried to keep a Beastmen look to it, plus I got more bits for warpedgor

>>96165250
Byzantines vs Normans

>>96165265
Yeah, i'm not paying $75 for something that looks worse than the kitbash I already have.

>>96165297
Egyptians vs Hittites.

>>96165240
>>96165267
Neither of these things were said by me you retards LMAO ... I guess that's what happens when you accuse everyone of being me. Rent free!

>>96165297
>>96165306
I could easily post dioramas like the above being played on. It's really just a question of the focus of the players, nothing to do with the rules of rank and flank.

>>96165297
>>96165306
Diorama-style tables aren't that rare. It's really just a question of the focus of the players, not the rules of rank and flank.

"diorama" is the Warhammie drones way of saying "effort"

>>96158868 (OP)
Would growing penis-mushroom like growths be a good Slaaneshi mutation?

>>96165341
Warhammer had fine tables. It's just the later players that moved away from them and shoved off all the modelers into Mordheim.

>>96165267
Don't forget he kept trying to say his "wife" is always perfumed, suggesting she is either a whore, has hygiene issues, or more likely the whole things a larp.
Sad really, what nogames does to a person

>>96165334
That table is s great example. It looks dense, but it's 80% open field.

>>96165470
The mid-point where battles are likely to happen is 25% obstructed on both sides though.
That said just having buildings in the back help a lot.

>>96165505
Why are you arguing against a shitposter?

do the chaos dwarfs have legacy rules for ToW yet?

>>96165655
they've had legacy rules for ToW this entire time, they have the most units they've ever had

>>96165376
i feel like warhammer suffered/suffers from the same fate as warmachine did, where it can look really good with lots of flavorful terrain and the promotional photos always showed it as such, but that the game system itself reeeeeeaaaaally works against terrain interacting with the figures at all, and so players just default to a couple trees and a house or some bushes or flat terrain. at the end warmachines terrain ultimately just became flat cutouts because it interfered with the game so much and i feel like whfb/tow would go that way too if it werent for the fact that its players are more narrative driven, often to the point of building deliberately worse armies or formations just for the sake of flavor and aesthetics.

>>96165655
Yeah it's part of the legacy lists
It's solid to my understanding
Also there's an unofficial but widely supporterd renegade pack which...allows a bit more common sense in lists building

>>96161465
Iirc fanatics jump out a few inches away from the unit of gobbos, so if you got into melee with them you should be mostly fine

>>96165691
>>96165682
okay i'll give it a look, thanks

Threads a bit slow

>>96165686
NTA, but I considered it a “be the change you want to see” issue.
For most people terrain takes a massive backseat to their actual armies, few people are thinking ‘yep time to load of the terrain’ when they get ready to travel for a game, you have to come up with a storage solution that may or may not be an issue for your own terrain, and once you do have a acceptable, but not obsessive amount of terrain you kind of get the feeling of your tables always look the same because you can field a nice table, but it’s a kind of the same one for a bit.

For my group we know 100% a game store doesn’t exist outside of a two hour one way drive for us so we bucked up, pooled our money to get the materials to build two tables on our own with one being needlessly massive for narrative shit, and me and three other guys got to building and printing terrain. If we hadn’t decided fuck it we ball all our games would be on a kitchen table with coke cans and books as terrain.

>>96164406
Lol.
Put down the crack pipe bro.

>>96164365
The army list heavily restricted all the Cold One units (because the TOW writers are a bunch of SLACK jawed FAGGOTS) so you can't take as many knights or chariots as you want. Never take spear men, at this point you just want to Max repeaters with shields. Corsairs suck (I've tried to make them work, nothing does) Dark riders are excellent core. Our dragon is still one of the best in the game, but our inability to get three saves on it hurts. However, shield of grond plus Pendant is fucking excellent, consider the biting blade or something on the lords too so ethereal can't bog you down

>>96165810
based group of men banding together and getting shit done

So I did it. I bought two Cathay Battalions, and plan to crack 'em open and start the army this weekend. What's the ideal way to build the Jade Warriors and artillery? For Jade Warriors I'm thinking 3x10 for both weapon choices, yeah? Then for artillery I know I want at least two cannons, but are rockets worth building more than one of?

So do I put a king or liche on the bone dragon?

>>96164365
If you like Dark Elves, play Dark Elves. Also, they're only Legends until Malek-er...rion! I meant "Malerion's" elves come out in AoS, and not a nanosecond longer. My point being, you've got at most an edition to wait for proper army support.

>>96165855
Agreed; might as well call 'em "Anon and the Big-Dick Boyz." Men must cultivate brotherhood when/wherever possible; world needs more dudes doing wholesome ass shit together.

Does Cathay even have a means of going hero hammer? Kinda like old vampire counts.

>>96166626
Miao and shiuguens

>>96164519
Notice how both armies in this picture are all out in the field and not amongst the buildings.

>>96166528
Faggot.

>>96166710
are shiuguens capable of posing a threat to dragons?

>>96159013
Thanks anon, I made like over a hundred various hats with that project . By brute force I became average at sculpting them .

>>96166787
Not really. Even Miao is going to be punching up to top tier lords on dragons.
But that's why Cathay has cannons.

>>96165810
Seconding this anons opinion, people barely paint their models, to make and paint terrain is a true travesty.
Either band up with your lads like this fine anon or become atlas and do it solo like I have.

>>96166738
Your beard doesn't hide your double chin.

>>96166787
Well you can get 2 of them for the price of 1 blinged out draglord. More a extremely efficient model than raw power.

>>96166528
Two?
It will take me at least another month to paint the one Box I have. I hope you don't get exhausted half-way through

Finally got my ungors from a lot off their, my Allah forgive their sins, their round 28mm bases to god(s)fearing proper 4-corner 25mms
What's everyone else working on? I assume my more talented beastlords are making good progress?

>>96165505
The mid point isn't 25% obstructed by that manor lol.

>>96167087
>slotted bases
anon you put them on something worse

>>96167105
Its trivial to overcome the slotta, are you new to models or something?

What scale is Cathay in, 28? 32?

>>96167087
Got my 3 Dragon Orges primed and ready, but since two had their arm borken off I had to do repairs tonight, I'll get started on them tomorrow

rules question:
why does the duke on royal pegasus count as a skirmisher with 360 degree LoS, while the shugengan on spirit longma doesnt?

which new kit is uglier, would you say? the bretonnian foot knights, or the dwarf king/thane set?

>>96167480
Dwarf. Dwarves just can’t look good.

>>96167472
>count as a skirmisher with 360 degree LoS
Where does it say this?

>>96167087
Fuckin MOOOOO BITCH

>>96167480
Foot knight are pretty ugly, and Bretonnian knights fighting on foot sounds unbecoming.
Checking on GW's site, that dwarf kit's 65$ CAN for 2 models. Highway robbery.

>>96167480
The dwarf model is great wtf are you talking about? Of course the brets are worse.

>>96167087
I'm working on my beastlord at the moment, it's slow but it's progress nonetheless.

>>96167498
>2 models
It's 5 dwarfs bro
>65$ CAN
Well there's your problem, meme currency.

>>96165353
In all honesty i think one of the first warhammer short story's from when GW first started making making fiction about there setting was all about a garden full of penis shaped Slaaneshi plants that an old gentle man tricked Bretonion kids into sucking on so as to corrupt them to chaos.

>>96166830
Your over indulgence is penis isn't going undo your childhood traumas.

>>96167087
I'm working on my beastlord at the moment, it's slow but it's progress nonetheless.
Got a color scheme in mind for your beasty bois by the way, or perhaps which part of the Old World they inhabit?

>>96167505
it looks like the kind of trash you get from a 3rd party sculptor on etsy

>>96163397
shut up you fucking barfbaby

>>96167491
thats what Im asking.
this is how I saw the duke being played in multiple battle reports. If this is wrong, than I will withdraw the question.

>>96167472
>>96167540
It's correct.
Characters riding mounts count as their mount's sub-type (page 204 of the core rulebook)
Page 205 mentions Lone Characters are always considered to be Skirmish formation.
Royal Pegasus is Monstrous Cavalry, which falls under the Cavalry umbrella, so it can be a Skirmisher.
Shugengan is a Monstrous Creature, which falls under the Monster umbrella, which is always counted as a Close Order unit (info on page 104 of the core rulebook), too big to be a Skirmisher.

>>96165845
This soulds a bit shit. I was going for repeaters and dark riders anyway to fill up core, then max knights and chariots, and get a couple of chariots as character mounts for a master and a high beast master. Maybe a small unit of BBC Guard for style points, too.

>>96167513
It's still 2 models on the table, one lord on foot and the other on shield.

>>96167519
I've got some blueish vaguely tzeetchian guys with snow bases I did a long time ago with some minos. I'm not sure if I'll keep the color scheme but I'd imagine they are from the northern realms kislev nordland norsca etc. Unfortunately my beastmen are largely on the backburner atm but I'd love to paint up these to refresh my scheme, and then some centigor. The bigger bases everywhere does mean basing will take a pinch longer and I'll probably have to get more material too...

>>96167561
Well you can count it as a mounted model which are equally overpriced.

>>96167598
I’ll mount the dwarf on a fucking spike.

>>96165014
Infantry sized model

>>96161179
he lost his dominant arm in an accident with a cannon in a reenactment battle and sculpted him in the hospital bed

>>96167519
ETA ON THAT FUCKIN MOLDLINE GETTIN FIXED CHIEF?

>>96167643
The faction is just riddled with them, I almost considered them but it’s such a pain in the ass for an ugly army.

>>96167647
I've got my own beastmen it's not that hard just scrape them before priming

>>96167643
Fair, I noticed it after I began painting him even after going over him checking for mold lines and I didn't want to redo the paint after already shading and highlighting it.

>>96167541
thanks for the explanation.
I think that takes the shugengan a bit down in powerlevel.

>>96167643
>>96167647
make it a giant veins with your Beastlord being filled with murderous Chaosterone

>>96167682
I'm glad you asked because it's something I didn't know, either and had to look up.
And since lone characters count as skirmishers, any ranged attack against an regular or heavy infantry character (assuming you could shoot them at all) benefits from the -1 to be hit from the Skirmisher rule. Has to have unit strength of 1 to benefit, monstrous infantry, cavalry and larger are too big to benefit.

>Many of Vaul’s priests ritually blind themselves upon entry to the inner circle of master smiths. High priests even shatter their own bones with forging hammers. Meditation techniques allow Smith-priests to transcend the limitations of their damaged bodies. Though High Elves and Wood Elves consider Smith-priests eccentric, they respect their self-sacrifice and value the contributions they make to the defence of their realms.
Okay elves are pieces of shit, but this is pretty cool.

>>96167736
You finally see the light.

>>96167745
Nah, I still prefer dwarfs or human knights.
But I can respect someone willing to maim an elf just to be a better craftsman.

>>96167638
What?

>>96167087
Yesterday I've started painting militia detachment for my empire, nothing spectacular

>>96167638
>>96167837
on further investigation this is false, modern GW themselves are mistaken
seems like the green knight was the last before losing his arm, and repanse the first one after
still pretty impresive tho

>>96167875
I've left the mouldline, great...

>>96167087
My army is 100% nurgle and undivided, but I started making a 7th edition-styled Vilitch the curseling just for fun

>>96167958
neat
that zombie kit is the best kit ever

>>96167875
SAR DO NOT REDEEM

DO. NOT. REDEEEEEEM

>>96168128
Do NOT let this man anywhere near elf women.

>>96168128
I smirked

>>96168128
FUCK YOU BLOODY

>>96167958
Outstanding work

Seriously when the fuck is the GM's guide for TOW RPG coming out

>>96167958
Give that man a mustache and it's perfect.

>>96168545
"very soon™"
i don't get why they didn't just release the book at the same time as the players guide

Do wargear options even matter visually anymore now that everyone has armed to the teef

>>96169054
as much as they did in previous editions where you could also do the same, yes.

I just realized this is the great proxy for a sorceress on dark pegasus

>>96169083
>as much as they did in previous editions
so no?

>>96169126
That's what I am doing in the cavalry AoI for Empire
Her tactical rock full assembled is slightly too wide but you can just half assemble it and it works

>>96168973
Something must have happened in that one of the writer's snuck in some political thing in there like in the new Epic game that delayed it. People have had to do the promotional actual plays using just the player's guide so clearly this isn't something C7 wanted.

>>96169205
They have given out the GM guide to certain people. This guy even did an overview of it
>https://illmetbymorrslieb.wordpress.com/2025/07/21/the-old-world-rpg-gamemasters-guide-first-impressions/ so I'm pretty sure those guys doing Actual plays were given the GM guide

>>96167493
Arooooo
>>96167519
I love your albino herd anon, keep at it!
>>96167875
Solid looking anon!
>>96167958
That's looking really solid, luv me some twins

>>96169193
everyone is always assumed to wield a basic hand weapon even when it's not modelled, what you're meant to display on the model is what they have beyond that, such as the wargear option, so yes, it matters visually.

>>96169126
Other than that goofy eye hair sure.

>>96169276
Absolutely, I'm gonna put a sexy face on her

>>96169126
feet

>>96169321
that, too

>>96169126
I have nothing against proxying a dude on a mount with a model without a mount, but I don't like it when people do it and I will judge you for it.

My dream AJ would be one that comes out that gives an Army of Infamy to each of the four chaos gods.

>Cult of Pleasure
>High Elf realms Army of Infamy instead of the Dark Elf subfaction it was before, but basically the same list just replacing the Dark Elf units with relevant High Elf ones (also works as a stealth Dark Elf army if they don't want to bring Legends stuff back properly)
>Nurgle army of infamy that's themed around the Cold Mire, for Warriors of Chaos, and is just the old Tamurkhan stuff + Fimir (plus can take some Nurgle daemons ofc)
>Tzeentch army of infamy for Empire, not thought out exactly how it would fit but definitely with a Magister hero fluffed to lead them all and the ability to take Tzeentch daemons
>Not got any real idea for Khorne, one fun thing could be a dwarf AoI that's sort of like the old Legion of Azgorh but focusing more on the heavy industry and obviously without the wizards.

>>96169373
She is the mount. My mount.

>>96169448
>Tzeentch army of infamy for Empire
This is my WIP army actually.

>>96169448
>Tzeentch army of infamy for Empire
That one is pretty easy.
Just make it a Cult list based on the Purple Hand or the Red Crown from TEW, and it being fluffed as State Trooper Deserters, Beastmen and Mutants being led by Magisters to overthrow the already collapsing and weak Empire.
Khorne, I guess you could focus on the Warrior Honour stuff, so make it so it's a bunch of Brettonians that have drunk from a brass Khornate skull Grail so their evil grail knights and their entourage that are uber elitist.

>>96169500
Oh yeah brettonian Khorne list could be sick.

>>96169373
>I have nothing against it
>I don't like it
Which one is it?

>>96167087
>>96167519
Working on ungors too. Clean your mold lines, beastbros. I also paid special attention to removing the gap between the arms and the body.

>>96169448
My buddy ported the old cult of pleasure list to TOW, if interested I can tell you how we ended up doing things.

>>96169544
I'm not racist
I just don't like em

>>96169580
Oh yeah I'd be interested in a pdf, was tempted to do it myself so curious what changes he made.

>>96169584
Anyone have a fantasy version of pic?

Lizardmen soon. Trust the plan.

Any good online resources for matched play / score tracking? Other game I play is Kill Team and there's a great site that keeps track of scoring, turn number, etc.

>>96169731
The Great Plan sure does move slow.

>>96169591
He's out fishing so he will return in a few days with a pdf/text (and some filets for me) but from what I remember
>updated pts for dark elves, WoC, and Daemons from their respective lists. Same with options
>magic items are dark elves, daemons use their stuff. MoS and slaanesh magic items available to everyone (but daemons who only get gifts)
>anointed we've gone back and forth. 2, 3 attacks base for a 12 pt naked elf is at times too good or not good. We've settled for 1 attack base.
>like in Daemons, special>Core and Rare>special if it has MoS
>goes without saying but everything has to buy the MoS. 1,2,5pts a model. Uses WoC version for rules.
>spell lore is whatever is available to the caster and then can replace for LoS(1 spell)
He runs usually anointed, darkshards, and daemonettes as core. 1 dark elf wizard, 1 herald of slaanesh and an aspiring slaanesh champ. Then seekers, fiends, and bolt throwers. That's the core list atm. He should be back this weekend so I'll post what he sends when he does.

>>96169759
I’m sorry are you fluent in old onese? Do you know how long it takes to decipher this shit?

>>96169225
Thanks Anon, although they aren't albino (in that case their fur would also need to be white) they just very pale.

>>96169576
Fixed the mold line by carefully scraping it off with a sharp hobby knife and slowly highlighted the thin strip back up.

>>96166830
THATS TOO CLOSE TO HOME

>>96169580
Post that shit

>>96167561
Yeah and a 40k imperial knights is one model, so does that mean it should be a 1/30th the price of state troops?

>>96168545
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21Cc6dw4P8E

>>96170362
Will be a few days for now from memory
>>96170203

>>96160561
>evil Ancestor God like Skavor
>decides to go full CHAOS CHAOS CHAOS after the Great Catastrophe and ascends
>Skavor presumably does the same and becomes the Horned Rat
I'm okay with this. Much better than how The Lady was handled in nu-lore.
>>96160569
>son of gazul, and brother of skavor
I like this too.

>>96170718
>>Skavor presumably does the same and becomes the Horned Rat
the same article that confirms hashut as a former mortal (a dwarf ancestor), also confirms the rat as an elemental god (so, not a former mortal)

if skavor is involved with the rat, he did not become the big rat that makes all of the rules

>>96170750
>the rat as an elemental god (so, not a former mortal)
...what? The fuck is AoS team smoking? I was about to give them kudos for once.

>>96170779
There's a more interesting story to tell about it not being an ascended mortal, I say.
>someone artificially created a god out of scrap and then it spiralled out of control or it's still doing exactly what it was meant to do

>>96160561
>AOS lore

>>96160561
You know your setting is bad when it shares the concept of divinity with Mormonism.

>>96170969
So, do you think sigmar was born a god, or are you a filthy unbeliever?

>>96167879
I fucking hate nu-GW with a passion you would not believe

>>96171011
Sigmar isn’t a god. Sigmarite divinity is heresy. Ulric and Middenheim not sigmar and Altdorf.

>>96171142
>Sigmar isn’t a god
Yeah sure, and miracles are delivered by demons, dogfucker.

>>96167087
Sorry we only worship a bull we aren’t one. Batch painting some more chorfs atm

>>96171160
Ummm remind me again who your “god” worshiped. Oh right, your god worshipped Ulric.

Post paid for by Turning Point Middenheim

Goddamn my deployment SUCKS! Also due to my stubborness in not conceding earlier with just my general and marauders left, my general finally died, ran down by the gobbos and a squig boss.

Oh well, was fun and Khorne made his disfavour clear. Snake eyes turn 1 for Gaze of the Gods, general was stupid. Rolled 1 again, LD7.

At least Korgoth killed a Gobbo boss on squig in a duel. Very fun but desperately need to deplly my knights better. Ended up bottlenecking myself again!

That said, Ragnar and the Marauders absolutely KILLED IT!

Butchered two 20+ units of gobbos and squig hoppers. Also the only survivors.

>>96171231
looks comfy, anon.

everyone knows that dude who got into 40k because dawn of war
but do you know anyone who got into fantasy because of total war

>>96171254
Ah it was, thanks anon. My opponent was, to say the least, a gentleman. Really friendly, didn't even bring fanatics and was very relaxed and pleasant. Legit the only thing which stang was

1. My abysmal deployment with the chosen knights

2. My general dying first time

Was tempted to call it early to save him but felt that it was better to see it till the end of turn 6.

Least my OCD of not letting him die has passed, may use him now as an AC in my 500 points event Sunday.

>>96171292
well sometimes you get shafted by the fickle gods, next one will be better I'm sure

>>96171231
Khorne smiles on your general. Cool batrep yeah always sucks when you fuck up before turn one and have to live with it lol.

>>96171298
Aye, Korgoth will do better in his next battle! So will I too, even said "I should put my knights on the right flank," but dropped the ball and dumped them behind my hounds. That's my only critique. Ah well. GLORY TO KHORNE.

>>96171310
>Khorne smiles on your general

Over his corpse this day, hah! But sure, he will be tested even more in future games I'm sure.

>>96171329
He cares not from where the blood flows

>>96169675
freshly baked

>Wanting to paint the weapons on my beastlord in a different metal (grey knight steel) to make him stand out a bit more from the others
>Started to write lore about he acquired the weapons/metals for those blades and how they were fashioned into axes.

Am I doing too much?
I can post the little fluff I've written about it here if anyone is curious?

>>96171626
>Am I doing too much?
nah, but it would be better if they look truly different compared to the rest of your dudes' metallics then

>>96171626
Post it

>>96171660
My other dudes are just gonna have leadbelcher or iron warrior with reikland and a bright metal highlight.

>>96171667
Might as well share his entire small lore blurb I've written for him. My dudes are still an ongoing narrative so this might be expanded upon as I do more (narrative) games.

>>96171694
He sounds like a punk bitch that my bray shaman would have decapitated by his Bull Herd

>>96171694
Nice

>>96171231
What's the big thing next to the hag?

Made some progress on the front half of dragon, not sure if I want glowing OSL eyes or just leave them white and creepy looking

>>96172123
Shit looks amazing dude, good job. I'm personally not the type to enjoy glowing eyes, neon shit etc on miniatures. Especially not Fantasy ones. But you do you!

>>96172123
Damn that's a good dragon

>>96172123
what dragon is that? like creaturecaster or something?

>>96172123
That looks amazing anon.

>>96172123
creepy white is fine, but if you add pupils they read better as eyes, especially the ones in the raw flesh like that that could be also seen as boils or pieces of bone

>>96172123
Kino.
I think slightly glowing soulless eyes would look best.
What kits did you use?

>>96172186
>>96172150
>>96172143
thanks lads
>>96172180
Its an archon studios dragon of schmargonrog, but I left the neck/head in two halves and resculpted the meat on each side. Theyre quite small compared to modern GW dragons but for the price they are nice little kits.

>>96172195
Actually quite like that idea, give him some pinhole shin-gojira style eyeballs

>Glade riders' cavalry spears lets them fight in extra rank with supporting attack
>Cavalry spear's notes says they can't be used for supporting attacks the turn the unit charged
Doesn't this make them useless for a unit with more than one rank? What's the point then?

>>96172245
For prolonged combats and for receiving charges.

>>96172251
Why would I charge with glade riders into anything that will survive the first turn of combat? Dunno this rule seems silly to me

>>96172262
>Why would I charge with glade riders into anything
new apparently overpowered cathay cavarly is the same and nobody knows the answer

>>96172262
It's for the +1 strength on charge, the real reason more than that is because glade riders have spears due to carryover from ancient editions and it's a rule for spears.
Simple as.

>>96172245
You get +1 str and a point of ap when you charge.

>>96172394
>>96172394
>>96172394
>>96172394
New

>>96167643
Are we sure that's not supposed to be a vain? Mold lines are usually on the side, and usually straight.