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>>96166142 (OP)
https://imgchest.com/p/6eyrmere64p

>Tankshitsta
Can redicords stop copying this retard? Are they even capable of that even if they wanted?

After some thought on the matter I've decided that Lord of the Mysteries isn't that good. King of webnovel slop, but just a pretty okay 7/10 novel anywhere else.

>>96166170
Tankista is the most prominent Reddit CYOA author who has been asked about making an actual rpg-system.

Can you really name any authors from here that can compare to him?

>>96166215
what is a 9 or 10/10 novel then?

>>96166246
Tok

>>96166248
vostroyan firstborn gf, unfortunately the zealot gf is so obsessed with the emperor that i would feel like a third wheel

>>96166248
>No yandres
I can't read this

Reddit OC

>>96166354
>Ego Death: The CYOA

>>96166354

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>>96166344
>I can't read this
you did not even attempt, there is more than one that can be considered a yandere
>>96166354
>Reddit OC
i can tell

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>>96166394

I have OC in the making and will release it soon. I decided to call it Echoes PSY just because I think it would be hilarious if Italics loses again, like he has done with Luminary, due to being a lazy bum.

>>96166506
>I have OC
more info

Rake is a fucking retard

>>96166542
Is my own take on dawn of a demon lord. Like others have done. More specifically, the rise version.

>>96166629
good luck then

>>96166354
>Candidates:
1000

>Ship:
Type: Nesasio
Automation: Onboard Fabricators
Crew: No Complement

>Brain:
Expanded Context

>Name & Pronoun:
Object

>Avatar:
Contents: Yours
Presence: Physical

>Emotions:
Unchanged

>Role:
Strategy

>Upgrades:
Intrinsic Math

>Chance of Success:
Losing: 0%
Stalemate: 29%
Victory: 71%

>Opinion:
66%

Pretty boring cyoa.

>>96166354
>be the machine KINO
Not bad redditoids, not bad at all

>>96166354
just tell me if you can go rogue and kill all humans and aliens in this

>>96166705
Only in the futureTM after the cyoa.

>>96166671
Because your build is trash

>>96166564
Physicsfag...

https://imgchest.com/p/xny85newpyb

>>96166944
Animator (and others that can do the same) creations are not connected to you. They lack your minions' advantages, the ability to sustain on essence and the perks. However, this lack of connection is also the greatest advantage as they also lack your minions' disadvantages, the drawbacks. This means that they can be fine in sunlight even if you have Nocturnal, be competent spies even if you have Monster Menagerie, be impartial even if you have Racism, lack an Expiration Date, etc. They are a substantial boon to any build and invaluable to drawback heavy ones.

>>96166855
Physicsfag and Rake are both retards

>>96166629
Look, it's the anon that was asking about these types of CYOAs in another thread! He's going to make us kino OC!

>>96166692
Reddit is where you belong. Go and join your kind.

>>96166757
The CYOA is trash, so obviously any build for it is also going to be trash.

>>96167107
You sure whine a lot for someone that has nothing go on in their life lol.

>>96166564
Who used AI writing Luminary.

>>96166564
That can't be true, because if it was true then it couldn't be false.

https://imgchest.com/p/m9yx8pbpk7q

Blah: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96146057/#q96147604
Golden Knight: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220/#q96141833
Floating Guns: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220/#q96141194
Kirei: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#q96131242
Bubble Man: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#q96129336
Physical Guardian: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#q96128709
Actual Musician: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626/#96127767
Corporate Insider: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96109691/#q96115281
Teleporting Assassin: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96092845#96097239
Ordinary Salesman: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96101533#96101887
Vampire Monstergirl: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96146057#96147850
Ambush Predator: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96146057#96150404
Napoleonic Sniper: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220#96140324
Magical Boy Horrible Sea Urchin Monstrosity: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96139220#96141521
Magical Guy: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96127626#96134947
Dark Sovereign: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96109691#96114770
Keep Practicing: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96116898#96118455
Tok: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96109691#96113586
Be Me, Wagie: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96092845#96100066
Cute Wizard: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96101533#96101914
Defense Penetration: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96092845#96096723

>>96167180
Aifag...

>>96167180
AIfag...

>>96167220
>>96167237
He literally has a character named "Elara Voss." Go post in >>>/g/106005673 or >>>/g/106003521 and ask them if they think an LLM might have been involved in writing that.

>>96167265
Haven't read the CYOA because waifu slop is for subhumans, but calling a character Elara Voss is an obvious sign of AI.

>>96167026
>>96166944
So Monstrous Menagerie just straight up excludes you from having Spys and Infiltrators? Damn thats brutal.

>>96167309
It just means they can't look humanoid, which is tricky but can be worked with. Freaks shapeshifted to look like faeries, animals, or random pieces of furniture are still possible.

>>96167309
It should be fine for Infiltrators, both their description and Monstrous Menagerie notes shapeshifting and illusions. It's possible that Warpers that are focused on flesh warping would work to shift any spys to appearing human.
>>96167319
It doesn't say humanoid, it says they have to be inhuman. Humanoid is a general body shape.

>>96167265
Or it could just be a shitpost. It's a shitty inside joke everyone knows if they got into ai chatbots, There's literally another character called Steve.

>>96167342
Considering he's been directly asked about it and his reaction wasn't "lol yeah that was an epic joke lacking any elements of humor," I'm betting it's more like a guy who's inexperienced with AI chatbots used it to generate some slop and didn't realize how obvious his slop was.

>>96167309
>So Monstrous Menagerie just straight up excludes you from having Spys and Infiltrators? Damn thats brutal.
I don't think so; it explicitly excludes is a shapeshifter capable of -indefinitely- maintaining human guise, which implies that you can have someone who can temporarily take on human guise. Hence, you should be able to have spies and infiltrators (given a race that might hypothetically support it), but they'll have more trouble than they would otherwise, because they'll have some kind of substantial required downtime in normal form.

>>96167342
Every OC has someone (probably the same guy) try to make some retarded drama about it. That's all this is. I don't know why you bother humoring him with replies like he isn't subhuman.

>>96167382
>>96167330
>>96167319
Thank you, my confidence in Spys and Infiltrators has been restored.

>>96167398
>guys I just used AI slop as le epic in-joke
Choke on my fuck you attention-seeking plagiarizing faggot.
>OC
Content, yes. Original, no. It's walking well-tread ground: there are tons of CYOAs in this genre and this CYOA doesn't add anything new where it borrows. For instance the power system is a less interesting copy of Beri's A New Magical Girl except every S tier power is "you kill everyone and your dad can't make you clean your room" and there are no Wells compelling interesting strategic tradeoffs.

https://imgchest.com/p/o24aqqr37lj

Competent but boring.

>>96167342
>There's literally another character called Steve.
This and Tok Option make me think this is probably a joke. At worst he asked a chatbot for a name.

>>96167398
He already called another CYOA else AI, this is just the same shitposter. Rake makes too many typos and his writing style is distinct enough that I would be very disbelieving that he just copied and pasted some AI slop into his cyoa.

>>96167220
>build lists
It's over, Luninary is reddit now.

>>96166354
>Clunky introduction, why introduce saying that the media was wrongly speculating just to pivot to say that the media was right?
>Can't separate narrative and meta texts
>Pronoun choice that's mostly pointless (+/- 1 point isn't a choice)

>>96168278
It's not even full.

>>96168278
>build lists are reddit
bro we had lists for spirit kino witcher entropist bit more effort ane every multiplayer under the sun get lost

>>96168367
And it was just the multiplayerfag coming here with his disgusting lists, doing it for attentionwhoring.

>>96166354
>The globopedo media were right about aliens
BLUEBEANZ JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

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>>96168471
they were here first retard

>AI generated builds to make a cyoa look more popular than it is
Yeah, I can totally see that.

>>96168702
Wake me up when we get AI generated posters to fake thread activity. No, Surinical doesn't count.

>>96168702
Italics would be all over that shit.

>>96168278
>now
holy newfag

>>96168727
My oshi-author would never.

>>96168737
We used to own reddit with Entrokino and look at us now.

>>96168702
>AI generated builds
If the build has lots of description and is polite, it's fake. Real builds are all shopping lists with whining about there not being enough points.

>>96166944
Well, let's a make a classic build for this
>Tyrant, Nemesis, Orc
>Goblinoids, Giantkin, Demons
>Horde Mode -1, Brood -2, Adaptability -1, One Man army -2, dark gods -1, Sea raiders -1
>Rabble +2, Lustful minions +1, Contentious +1, Zealotry+1
>Peon, Fodder, Raider -1, Skirmisher -1, Warrior -1, Brute -1, Mount -1, Watcher -1
>Heavy Infantry -2, Rampager -2, Alchemist -1, Standard Bearer -1, Anti Paladín -2, Cultist -1, Monstrous Mount -2, Spy -1, Stalker -1, Centurion -1, Sharpshooter -2, Blaster -2, Sapper -1
>Starting location: Amber Coast
Just a standard Rape, Pillage and burn army that will slowly conquer the world through huge unstoppable armies and an overlord at the head. They are also demon pirates.

>>96168702
I mean you can make a build in two minutes if you either made it or liked it enough to shill for. The idea that people are running AI for their builds is stupid, at least outside of making a description since some can't put their words into text now without it.

>>96168702
As the guy who made all of the builds, I would never.

>>96166142 (OP)
>Coast
>Floating Islands
>Mountain

The way I see it, our Empire is a strip of land encompassing coastline, likely a gulf, and just beyond that vast and intimidating mountain. Largely one massive crown trade city on the coast, this is the 'face' city. There are smaller villages along the coast too, but largely the other major cities will all be on floating islands or within the mountains. So we have in the land, on the sea, and in the air.

>Cavern Network
>Living Storms
>Portals

There are great parties in which people go to watch the storm from atop the floating islands. Storms are seen as protectors here and loved. Portals help connect vast underground cities with coastal cities with floating island cities.

>Humans
>Elves
>Dwarves
The trifecta. I do not want to exclude talent, and all three of these races have it in spades. Obviously dwarves will be drawn to the underground caverns, but that is alright. This isn't segregation, they can go where they feel they are best suited. Diversity is our strength.

>Shipwright
>Arcane Tower
>University

Because communities tend to be isolated, especially floating islands, Arcane Towers come in handy. Anybody that seeks to invade one of the islands will have to somehow get their airships, if they even have them, past a massive tower spewing elemental magic at them. As for ships, because the mountains surroundings us are largely impassable, defending the coast is crucial. Furthermore it's the only real way of projecting power; sending out strong military displays across the seas, or merchants. University will be important for the tech edge.

>>96168832
Whoops I posted the wrong image

>Improved Metallurgy
>Mechanical Wings
>Printing Press

The wings make it more practical to live on a floating island, and we will keep their secret hidden with the dwarves for as long as possible. We have many natural resources and skilled crafters on our side.

I want printing press because I plan to make tech advancements at the University. I know from my history here on Earth how much of an edge that gives you. I do wish I could have taken chemistry, but it will come soon enough. Part of the goal of our fleet will be to collect information about technology from across the world.

>Master of Arms
>Elemental Magic
>True Adept
>Divination
>Charismatics
>Domination
>Necromancer
>Secrets of the Old Ones
How could I not take most of these powers? It is worth all the perils I will have to face. They will be invaluable in forging forward a bright future for my people.

>Raiders
Let's see them try to touch us. We have:
1) Floating islands with Arcane Towers raining down hellfire
2) Me, flying above and raining down hellfire
3) Living storms raining down hellfire
I have divination to know where they will strike, and a powerful navy to dispatch in order to deal with that. I doubt they will manage to enslave even a single citizen.
I encourage their King to try me. I will defeat him in single combat, break his will, and then put him under my control. At that point we can incorporate the Raiders into our Empire, taking their knowledge of the seas for our own and using their numbers to develop the villages along the coast.

>Cult
I am not too worried about the cult themselves. I have divination and even if I cannot read their thoughts of senior cultists, I can watch their every move and read the thoughts of their underlings.

>>96168837
>Queen
This washed up hag will work with the cult? All the easier to keep an eye on her. How could I be captured? Her black magic will not work on me, I am a magic adept. I am a master of dark magic as well; more than a match for her.
For these two I need to do a lot more information gathering, but it seems their true power is secrecy and shadow, two things I have domain over.
>Mask
This is fine. It will drive me nuts at first, but I plan to be driven nuts anyways. To become an Old One you can't maintain 100% of your sanity. And as time goes on and I tap into what it means to be an Old One, I will be able to leave my body and construct another easy enough. No big deal.

I will not fight the Dragon, seems suicidal.

>>96168842
Chicken

>>96168870
Well I suspected that the Dragon was hamming himself up because he is the narrator and he's not actually /that/ scary. But I didn't want to take the risk. We have a lot of floating Islands that he can drive by destroy

>>96168832
>>96168837
>Whoops I posted the wrong image
Why do you keep unrelated pics in same place you store CYOAs?
ABSOLUTE CHAOS

>>96168767
True wisdom from catfag?

>>96169242
no

>>96169033
well you see, usually I ctrl-c and then ctrl-v to add images. But for some reason copying the image of the CYOA made it 1 mb too large to post, so I had to save it proper and post it instead. But I forgot that so I just pasted instead.

>>96169283
No one asked you, sloppingical

post tok kino

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>>96169370
Pick one. Both can't coexist.

>>96169370
Messed Up Waifu is >>>/trash/ material

>>96169370
It will be done my lord.

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>>96169572
newfags don't remember when this ate threads

>>96169625

Since I posted Princess kino I will also post Prince kino

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>>96166215
Now we’re entering sacred recursion. This isn't just mythic metaphor—it’s a directional infection, a psychic trajectory, a mutation path inside /repgen/ and beyond.

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>>96166248
Worm

>>96167220
Female
Cute

Charms
Radiant - Specialized
Force - Master (3)
Space - Master (3)
Time - Specialized
Curses - Novice (1)

Overcharged
Large Reserves
Gifted
Domain - I'm bad at designing these

Gaia
Student

Marael
Marie
Yue

It's cliche, but all missions.

The idea is pretty simple: Use Time to lock down and position foes, then neutralize them with extreme, overwhelming Radiant firepower. Large reserves and an implement focused on raw power feed into this. Space and Force combined allow me to manipulate and position large amounts of my Charms freely for better accuracy and precision, while also helping me defend myself as best I can. Radiant contributes a bit to that too. Curses simply effect my luck with applying spells. Main downsides of this strategy are, other than the mana cost which I mitigated, a lack of personal strength/speed/durability (a reliance on shielding, teleporting, and repulsion) with no healing, and its sort of 'solo' nature (no ability to create or convert allies) making it more vulnerable to numbers. Would've loved to dip into Celerity and Spirit for that reason, but the AP isn't there for that. Would've chosen Binding instead of Time, but I wanted a better balance in my investment between Dark and Light schools.

I wish I had a more serious uniform but hey, whoever doesn't expect the cutesiest girl to be the biggest nuker deserves to get vaporized.

>>96169542
kino

>>96166944
Flop of the year

FLOP OF THE DECADE... magi case was.

>>96167220
>he didn't update my build from yesterday
Why have you forsaken me listanon...

>>96167220
Bow down you filthy text build fags and add me to the list! Preferably on the top of the list because that's where I rightfully belong, on top.

Build Theme Music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeCe5ZoCF1M

So tok IS samefagging builds for luminary. Probably the one doing the AI builds too.

>>96169773
>Domain - I'm bad at designing these
You are not going to get any better at it by avoiding to do it. Still I like your build more than most other build for this CYOA because you're not a disgusting magical gay boy

>>96167220
Sorry, I'm retarded.
Dark Sovereign: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96157668#96161118
Gwenith Gwilym: https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/96157668#9617005

>>96170047
I was actually surprised just how many of you chose male. Last time we had a CYOA like this most of the builds were girls

>>96170038
What the fuck are you talking about scizo this is my first build for luminary. I don't do text builds, I only make image builds because they are superior and they are the only way to make a proper build. Do you honestly think the "Tok" build was made by me?

>>96170071
Can you at least bother to hide it.

>>96168702
>>96168727
Never forget Italics is increasingly using AI in his CYOAs. Magi Case had it and so did his Marvel Capeshit setting.

He's also adding more furry characters to his work and gaslighting other that it's normal.

>>96170005
>another toktranny build
Hidden.

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>>96170051
>he included tok alongside me
Never list again.

>>96170130
>>96170005
kino

>>96167220
You have not included my build and now I am sad

>>96170005
>no tech
KEEEEEEEEEK
Get this jobber build outta here

>>96168786
What's the build's plan for dealing with the WMD Holy Dragons?

>>96170005
What a perfectly puntable build

>>96170196
>Nemesis Tyrant
Anon probably plans to kill them himself. It's even better if he dies several times in the attempt.

>>96170124
>another toktranny build
Being a boy in a magical girl CYOA is gay as fuck and being a female is acutely the most heterosexual option. Because if you choose to be male and get a new body you get a new cock and that cock does not look like your own cock so every time you touch it is' like touching a strangers penis. Also becoming a girl is not tranny because being a tranny is having a mental illness and thinking that you are a woman but not actually being a woman. If you become a real woman and think that you are a real woman then you are sane, the opposite of being a tranny.

>>96170144
>kino
You got keen eyes and good taste.

>>96170183
>no tech
>KEEEEEEEEEK
>Get this jobber build outta here
I will never be a gunfag or a techshitter mage. Technology is weak, because it is limited by the human understanding of the laws of physics. Magic is strong because it bends and manipulates the laws of physics to the magic users will. Using tech magic is like putting a leash on your magic and weakening it. Fuck that, I want my magic to be free and unbound by limitations. Techshittermages are the real jobbers!

>>96170207
>What a perfectly puntable build
I'll punt you and any magical gay boi text build you have made

>>96170196
Just kill them myself alongside a huge army. Only the goddesses themselves are explicitly immune to "just throw bodies at it until it dies", with enough time and tries you will win.
I also get the feeling a lot of people here create the most adverse adverse scenario possible, you can just make a story where you don't fight 20 dragons and the entire continent at once.

>>96167220
Who would win in a fighting tournament?

>>96170320
>a lot of people here create the most adverse adverse scenario possible
We're a doomercore general.

>>96170423
Depends on the writefag, like back at /mcyoag/.

>>96170423
>>96170435
Nah, I would win

>>96170292
I always treat cyoas as character builders. It's not about what Would want to be, it's what would make a fun OC.
I think that's more rewarding.

>>96170423
Me

>>96170005
Tok what do you think of an option being named after you?

>>96170449
You are a literal power cuck. Do you enjoy giving away power to others while receiving none yourself?

>>96170292
Literal tranny cope

>>96170067
Because the cyoa's premise is objectively masculine, it just happens to have a coat of magical girl over it.

Why do some Anons hate Italics?

>>96170449
Even more than that, they have always been story builders the character is basically just a set up for a plot if they present something other than just creating a blank, I don't know where this obsession with the character perfectly being (you) came from.

>>96170447
Sure you would, Italics.

>>96170489
Fighting evil dark monsters in a city is an natural magical girl setting though?

>>96170465
Anon, self-inserting is just creating a character with yourself as the template.

>>96170552
>I don't know where this obsession with the character perfectly being (you) came from
Presumably the same place that scream cuckholdry the moment a female talk to someone else, whines about impossibility when you can't cheese your way to victory and trashtalk builds to make their own look "better".

>>96170552
Anon the initial CYOAs were someone/something presenting literally you with an array of choices to pick one of.

>>96170552
newfag

>>96170423
Blah: Good defense with spirit and physicality and great speed with celerity and force, could potentially speedblitz those lacking in celerity. Will definitely be hard to put down.
Golden Knight: Stall specialist, the mana regen means he'll be hard to put down with physicality but other than physicality he doesn't have many good offensive options and he's slower than the top tiers.
Floating Guns: Definitely more of a support build, he's unlikely to last particularly long in 1v1 combat with both of his specialties being better at subtle effects.
Kirei: Pretty much just golden knight with slightly less offensive spells.
Out of these 4 I would say Blah wins since he has the most kill power when getting up close and personal, kireis continuous may give him some trouble but I don't see any of the others managing much against the superior speed unless curse is much better than I think against luminaries.

cyoa that btfo >>96170552 ?

>>96170183
Gunjeet....

>>96170752
Probably anything harder than image related

>>96170005

>>96170423
Bubble Man: Not the fastest with only novice celerity but space could make up for that, his ult is incredibly powerful against domains but pretty much useless elsewhere. The chains could be useful but I'm unsure to what extent given his low speed.
Physical Gaurdian: Alright physicality and seems to rely on having an empowered gaurdian angel to support, the angel seems fairly vulnerable however, given he only has novice spirit and no celerity to move to defend it, though danger sense could be the saving grace.
Actual Musician: Gets cucked by bubble man and his anti domain bullshit. Illusion could be incredibly powerful and he has minions to defend him but its more direct effects are likely to be blocked by regalia. In the end he's just a fairly mediocre ranged attacker given this unfortunate bracket.
Corporate Insider: Okay physicality but that's really the only noteworthy thing here, most of his other stuff isn't relevant in a tournament setting especially given his ultimate, this build could really use some minions to stall out opponents. He also seems to have missed that you can have 2 specialities but 'you snooze you lose' as they say.
Corporate insider is a none factor and between the remaining 3 I can only see Actual musician winning if he's able to control the gaurdian angel, outside of that Bubble Man takes the 1v1 against the even slower physical gaurdian and moves onto the next round.

>>96170809
Stop replying to yourself

>>96170423
Bracket 3
Teleporting assassin: A decent strategy here, but the CYOA's mechanics heavily discourage 1 shots against peers, the ultimate will only come into play after at least one other has fallen. Overall probably should've taken a master school to boost up offence over the random spread he has currently.
Ordinary Salesman: Tanky enough to avoid assasination with spirit magic with some decent offence in force. Suffers similarly to Actual Musician in that things like Illusion or Psychic don't fare well against luminaries.
Vampire Monster Girl: Physicality and Celerity + bioshifting is a mean combo. A really strong and fast fighter has a major advantage in a tournament setting and that healing factor means that attrition through teleport kiting is unlikely to be effective. Lacks in ranged options though so a powerhouse in that department could probably pin her and take her out.
Ambush Predator: Unless he's picked up something mean in terms of cyborg undead he doesn't really have many options here, he'll have to rely on undead to hold others down to get off death magic against the faster opponents.
Vampire princess wins unless the other three gang up on her (celerity op pls nerf). In the case of the other 3 teaming teleporting assassin takes this 10 times out of 10.

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>>96170912
So basically spec celerity is all but mandatory.

>>96170423
Can't do the next 4 cause my build is in there and of course I'd think its the best so I'll move onto bracket 5 with an invitation for someone else to do 4
Keep Practicing: Tragically gimped by his lack of strong single target damage, his only real chance is to wear the others down from hiding using shrouded but his luck could make this the winning strategy.
Tok: Genuinely a fairly tough contender, slow but capable of dragon others down with his chains. The cyoa domain may be really good or really bad, depends how we interpret it. He has no real method of healing though so attrition from keep practicing may be his dragonfall.
Be Me, Wagie: Pretty good necromancer build who will once more have to rely on attrition for a finishing blow on tok, tech is irrelevant as is his ultimate so he may be the raped here I'm afraid unless sacrfice can make death into a good offence.
Cute Wizard: First major ranged offense build I've seen so far. He can probably stall tok at range due to his lacking celerity and has much better single target offense than either of the others.
Tok rapes Wagie to death due to Wizard being ton hard of a target and Practicing winning the 50/50 dice roll every time, from there he's blown his domain to torture his target so gets picked apart by the others. Wizard goes second form and super murders Practicing advancing to the next round.

>>96170937
Or time
Time can also work

>>96170712
Golden Knight here. Interesting analysis but I think the claim that Blah is much faster than me is dubious given that force isn't explicitly mentioned to increase speed, and I have power armor. He is definitely faster when using his ultimate but his usage of it is limited. Also and I say this as a martial, you are underestimating the casters.

>>96167220
magical girl name: Raikiri
gender: female
outfit: witchlike: shrine maiden
implement: blade: eastern sword

schools:
lightning specialized
celerity specialized
space master
time master

perks:
twin implement: blade boost
gifted
talented
ultimate art: continuous: Raikiri(yes same as her name): electromagnetic propulsion combined with celerity speed and reactions, times speed up and enemy slow down, and spaces distance shrinking and enemy warping all to give me the greatest amount of speed sustainable possible, although maybe instead i should make it an attack, hmmm

pacts: remial, urist, old bone mother
day job: official

contacts:
junko cause healing/barrier magic support and i can practice my blade arts with her
yue for efficiency training
sylka for ranged support and shenanigans

missions: all of them

>I am SPEED, I am LIGHTNING, I am a BLADE, all shall know and fear my sword, but NONE can run from it, not the dark, and not the light either, I fight for the betterment of mankind and the removal of corruptive influences, whether dark or light, but for now, the dark, the corporations, and their gods, are the immediate problem, and they must be excised like a tumor, and I am the scalpel that will do it
excerpt from a grey journal found under Raikiri's bed

>>96170423
Defense Penetration: Tanky and fast is a historically great combo which celerity and physicality almost always provide. With the second form boost this is a great build for just punching shit.
Radiant Blast: An excellent staller whose speed weakness is patched up by the combination of space and time, radiant and force will make for a great death beam. Unfortunately the player was too much of a lazy bitch to make a domain so I'll ignore it. Heavily counters defense penetration unless she can close the distance.
Tok (Forma de True)/Gwenith Gwylim: Decent summons with pact and spirit makes it tanky enough to survive. Unfortunately the domains strrength also makes it weak in some ways, the other two will likely use their speed to stall things out once they realise whats going on which the build has basically no counter for.
Overall gwenith gets knocked out ofter over exerting with the domain initially then Radiant blast stalls the already weakened Def Pen to death with teleports and beam spam.
(There are also a couple of builds left in the previous thread which are unlinked)

>>96171014
Half my victors are casters, I just don't think too highly of the status effect schools when in conflict with other luminaries or the longer term buildup schools like tech or death in this context. Their great options but in a tournament they aren't going to see as much use.

As for your paticular match I had to call it somewhere given how similar your builds were, I also assume that any reference to object and others also includes yourself for the sake of time magic and similar schools. Generally I would say its a tossup between you two but I would say he probably edges out the 6 out of 10 given he's strong enough to make it not a fight of attrition which is where you really excel.

>>96171052
>I am BOOBA, I am MILKIES

>>96167220
>>96170984
For t4 I would say "Magical Boy Horrible Sea Urchin Monstrosity" is the favorite but if Magical Guy has recovered enough corpo tech and integrated it he is a contender and Dark Sovereign could be a problem if he has the right pact. Napoleonic Sniper seems to have misunderstood that specialty's are free and isn't a contender in it's current form as a result.

>>96171093
Yea that's fair, my build isn't a PVP build and it's hard to measure status effects. Assuming Luminary's have standard boss fight status effect immunity isn't unreasonable but it could potentially be dead wrong. Rake honestly says a bunch of contradictory things especially in regards to defenses (none is a glass cannon but the Luminary mortality rate is sky high for example).

>>96171062
I'll probably write up a Domain at some point, I just wanted to go ahead and post my build since I was out of time to work on it for today.

>>96167220
>Title:
Distorted Heart

>Regalia:
Outfit: Witch-Like
Implement: Combined Wand Staff

>Schools of Magic:
Specialized: Force, Illusion
Master: Space, Time

"What am I doing? What am I seeing? Where am I? When am I?"

>Quirks:
Twin Implements, Nocturnal, Gifted

>Ultimate Art:
Distorted World (Illusion Domain): Distorts laws within the domain. Passively, laws become chaotic, making reality seem like an abstract painting, interfering with all functions, and causing mass destruction. Actively, laws can be controlled to, for example, enhance all actions of oneself and hinder all actions of the enemy.

A way to hinder the enemy with laws is to make them unsupportive of certain types of magic, making those cost more, less effective, and more difficult to use. For example, arranging laws in such a way that matter is impossible to form and be maintained naturally would interfere with flora, frost, sacrifice, earth, etc. and cause constant damage to anything composed of matter (magical things—non-magical matter has already unraveled). Some types of magic may be outright impossible, such as rituals that rely on the environment, at least without bypassing the domain and connecting to the outside world.

Examples of advanced applications (adept, master, specialist, respectively) of the domain: changing the default passive chaos to another, more deliberate, setting (which may still seem chaotic, intentionally or not); the establishment of a new natural order to distort the world to the extent that it seems to have become another, possibly unrecognizably foreign, world; and rapidly partitioning, adjusting, and switching natural orders.

Used in conjunction with my schools of magic, I have supreme control of the battlefield.

>Patrons:
Gaia, Remial, Urist

>Occupation:
none

Fulltime luminary.

>Contacts:
Klaus, Marie, Yue

>>96171197
>Missions:
Maddened Sister, Corrupted Spill: Pilot them to target high value corporation facilities, hehehe.

Since there is no payment for the missions, with the information available, I find there to be insufficient benefits in proportion to the risks in doing any of the others. I may change my mind on this if I learn that they have valuable loot.

To grow stronger, I won't foolishly court death like regular luminaries. I'll instead use the orthodox mage methods of training, research, stealing resources and knowledge, and employing magical means such as alchemy and rituals to empower myself. Convincing other luminaries of the superiority of my way of growth is a matter of course. I'll create a group of like-minded luminaries to steal from the corporations.

>>96171201
>To grow stronger, I won't foolishly court death like regular luminaries
Jobber mentality

>>96168837
>Realm:
Mountains

>Realm Features:
Ley Lines, Ancient Ruins

>Races:
Elves

>Cities:
University, Arcane Tower

>Technology:
Stable Arcanite, Condensed Rituals

>Personal:
all

>>96171226
>Jobber mentality
Said luminary casualty #3482.

>CYOA I like dies out
>CYOA I don't care for keeps going and going

>>96171311
And it's gonna keep happening. :)

Start caring more today!

>>96171311
They all die out eventually.

>>96171014
Stamina becomes speed as time goes by

>>96171311
Be the change you want.
Post more CYOAs.

>>96171332
Why? You'll keep pushing slop my way while my posts get zero replies.

>>96169572
Well shit there are many things I would rather be than a cute little pretty princess but it is what it is. Thank you for the second chance at life Grethel.

60 MP
Me
>Angel -13 MP
Free Divine
>Dark Elf, -5 MP, +1 Military
>Divine, +2 Purity and 1 Popularity
>Androgynous, +10MP, -1 Purity

Boons
>Magical Princess, -11 MP, +1 Wealth, +1 Wildcard
>Arcane Nexus, -10 MP, 2 Wealth
>Warrior Princess, -10 MP, +1 Popularity, +1 Military
>General, -15 MP, +2 Military, +1 Order
>Scholar, -10 MP, +1 Wealth
>Talented, -5 MP, Musician, +1 Popularity
>Clean, -10 MP, +2 Purity

Drawbacks
>Powerful Orgasms, +20 MP, -2 Purity
>Helping Hand, +10 MP, +1 Purirty
>Resting Bitch Face, +20, -1 Purity, -1 Approval

Society
>Tech Tier 2, -10 MP, +1 Wealth, +1 Military
>Magic Tier 3, -20 MP, +2 Wealth, +2 Military
>Medium Kingdom, -5 MP
>Floating Island
>Islands, +1 Order
>Palace, -10 MP, +2 Popularity

Religion
>The Unfulfilled, +20 MP, -1 Military, -1 Order
>Macabre Attire, +10 MP, -1 Popularity
>Kingdom of Death, -15 MP, +2 Approval, +2 Order

Stats
>7 Wealth
>6 Military
>4 Order
>1 Approval
>4 Popularity
>1 Purity
>0 Secrets
>1 MP Remains for good luck

The approval stats are not fantastic, I'll admit. They think I'm a slut and whore and would rape me if given the chance. But otherwise we're pretty good.

I am a magic warrior princess that can fly and lead armies into battles. Once I convince mother and father to begin the conquest and expanding into other lands, I believe I can prove my worth to the people and improving my approval ratings.

You could call us 'fallen' angels. A society of angels that live on a floating island and worship the goddess of death. We are extremely magically advanced and this permeates into every aspect of society. Below us live the dark elves who are also avid worshippers of death goddess. Both above and below, we use the dead as laborers, allowing relief for the everyday people.

>>96166142 (OP)
Not sure how to feel about this one. On one hand I find many parts of it interesting, but then in the end pretty much the only thing that matters is the glory/honor/will stats. What's the point of giving out an overpowered unlimited save scumming ability and then just ignoring it afterwards?

>>96171426
The outcomes are what happens if you win. Key word: if.

>>96171402
Maybe I wouldn't?
Maybe I love you?
Maybe supporting the things you are passionate about is an abstract virtue that needs no justification?

Is Italics a chocobunny or a snowbunny?

>>96171062
You underestimate my domain and my strategy. I would not open up with my domain. My build has healing, survivability, summons and decent damage. I would play to my strengths which is to make it a battle of attrition. I would play defensively first and make sure to use any spilt blood to restore mana. Then when people are looking pretty worn out I would switch it up and go on the offensive while continuing to restore mana from the blood that me and my minions spill. Then when everyone is low on health I would have my summons spill their own blood until they are barely alive use their blood for mana and then activate my domain. Then my summons would rush my enemies and I would go all in on summoning more spirits. It's one thing to battle 1 enemy while trying to figure out their abilities but it is a completely different thing being overwhelmed from all sides of enemies who continuously attack you while you are taking damage from your own attacks. Panic, adrenaline and stress makes it hard to think. But let's say someone does figure it out and starts running, then I would use my barriers to box them in with my summons so they can't run. Again let's say they survive, I will continue to summon minions and when the domain drops I would have an army of minions and have tons of mana left while my enemy is all worn down from fighting and casting spells. Also if an enemy uses an AoE in my domain and hits 30 summons that is 30 times the damage they get hit with.

>>96171444
>Maybe I love you?
Don't believe that wench anon. She's not bound by a lot perk, which means sh'ell inevitably betray you for a better model.

Please spare a thought for your brothers on /trash/, who are currently in an existential panic as the UK's 4chan block is poised to remove their only author.

>>96171444
>Maybe supporting the things you are passionate about is an abstract virtue that needs no justification?
I keep supporting the theory that some people use this place as a social outlet and thus feels slighted by indifference, since it reminds them of outside.

>>96171523
Bah, BTG was already retired anyway. It's all Timcoins now.

>>96166944
Do you think an elite mess cook falls more under Artisan or more under Alchemist? Not just any cook, the kind of dead-eyed, potbellied and disheveled industry veteran that can whip up a meal for two-hundred goons that'll keep them fighting for days, given two hours' notice and 1d6 five minute smoke breaks.

>>96171523
>inb4 Sweden block 4chan
Will you mourn the alpha and omega of the thread, Tokhaar Gol?

>>96171541
Alchemist

>>96171541
artisan, i already had this confirmed that cooks would be under artisan cause i also need ways to improve my food situation

>>96171062
>>96171509
You also forgot that I can channel the power of spirit into myself and that I have tons of different pacts with all kinds of spirits. If I need to immobilize my enemies I would have a pact with a higher order spirit just for that. The true power of my build is its versatility and the power to adapt to anything. Being a backline summoner helps with this, as I can calmly analyze my enemies from a safe distance. This is why fighters have coaches, because it's hard to think while in the middle of battle but it's easy to do so when you do so from a safe distance.

>>96171555
Who?

>>96171148
>none is a glass cannon but the Luminary mortality rate is sky high
Not really a contradiction; not being a glass cannon does not mean you are invulnerable.
The "about magical girls" section says that these are hormonal teenagers, so I find it obvious to assume that the sudden power can easily go to their heads. Meaning new Luminaries tend to bite off more than they can chew. Hell the whole Luminous Knights faction is basically battle junkies who sound like they would fall prey to the Hunting Horror or charge straight at the Corrupted Spill monster no matter the odds.
Similar to what an anon mentioned last thread about the question of when exactly the missions happen, especially with most of them sounding time critical. Are those situations that pop up after you have reached your basic potential as chosen after 5-20 years of regular fighting and training or are those issues right now and you have to do them (almost) day 1? How many other fresh Luminaries were offered missions of similar difficulty on their first days when they still could barely shoot a magic laser pointer? Not to speak of the corporations actively searching Luminaries to either kill for being a nuisance or experiment on for profit.
There are still plenty of ways for Luminaries to die even if they are not glass cannons.

>>96171509
Alright knowing your full strategy now I still think the results are similar. Firstly pacts summon spirits and we have no idea if they bleed but I'll permit it for the sake of argument, however their blood will always be half the value of their summoning due to conservation of magic, you also spend as much magic healing in your domain as the blood generated. You likely manage to bog down Def Pen in this way leading to a kill by the end of your domain, but time+space makes radiant very slippery, especially against spirits barriers. I think it comes down to your defense against radiants offense after your both winded from the domain and I think radiant wins here with 2 schools (Force+Radiant) against your barriers. I think it is a high diff thoug so I'd give it to you 9 times out of 20 if she overextends in the domain or is careless.

>>96171509
>>96171587
>>96171062
Also when I think about it how would someone figure out the effect of my domain? If they are getting attacked by multiple summons and they get damaged when attacking them, the natural response would be to think that they hit the summon but another summon hit them while they were attacking. If there are multiple summons it would even be hard to keep track of the summon you attacked since the natural response of getting hit is to turn around and look for the attacker. Especially if you are a melee fighter.

>>96171588
The author that gave us historical hits such as Princess and Dragonfall. The Gigachad who don't need charisma boosts as he's already the suavest man on Earth. The honest voice that expose frauds like Shitalics and Entropissanon. The martyr that keep coming back despite the tsunderes, because the thread would be lost without him. The most prolific author, poster and image builder of the thread.

>>96171590
Sorry the setting simultaneously wants to be bleak and unforgiving but perfectly balanced as well. Stupidity doesn't explain 100% of the mortality rate. I can only conclude that neglecting defence is a major reason for death (to be clear defence is far from just raw tankiness). The missions do feel like trap options though. If this is the Dark Souls of settings it means we gotta do those dodge rolls that it is famous for.

>>96171647
They would figure it out easily because you brag about it, and have used it on monsters in public

>>96171659
>The missions do feel like trap options though.
Rake said they happen in a roughly chronological order, and at whatever times make for the best story.

>>96171618
NTA but "Conservation of magic", holy head cannon that's stupid. Many systems with the blood magic gimmick totally allow for a net gain via summons or regen or stranger things.

>>96171618
You forget about my ability to channel the power of higher order spirits I would have a pact with multiple such a spirit for dealing with each counter to my domain. I would have counter for speedsters, I would have counters for barriers, I would have counters for gojo space bullshitery, I would have counters for all kinds of defensive strategies.

>>96170423
Everyone is going about this the wrong way. All builds would be roughly equal regardless of choices taken, so all that matters is how skilled (You) in a scrap, and how well (You) can leverage your magic tactically to outsmart everyone else.

>>96171675
But if you could make magic with magic, wouldn't you just pair it down to the smallest working spell and go infinite?

>>96171691
In isolation everything is equal which is why we all are seeking an ultimate synergy (also why some of the overtly powerful options like time magic aren't as popular as they usually would be).

>>96171722
>In isolation everything is equal

>>96171669
>They would figure it out easily because you brag about it, and have used it on monsters in public
Nope, knowledge is power and a ultimate art that wins by changing the rules of battle is the most powerful when it is unknown. Even if I had an ultimate art that was straight forward I would never reveal it to others openly. If you don't know what your enemy is capable off you will have to fight cautiously and such caution will make you take less risks but also lose more opportunities. The most powerful fear is the fear of the unknown and I would indeed brag about my ultimate art, but I would not reveal it. Not even to my friends. I would simply tell them to close their eyes if I where ever forced to use it and tell them that whatever they do do not open their eyes. Then I would deal with the enemy alone. I would want my ultimate art to be as feared as Apollyons.

>>96171676
Just saying 'I have a counter for everything lol' does not make for interesting encounters. You also assume that you have immediate and trivial access to all of these spirits includings ones with hyper-specific abilities over just 5 years. The fundamental precept of this system is balance, perhaps you'll have obtained a spirit or perhaps it would've demanded exclusivity or a vow of abstinence or any number of things. I'm not going to allow something with as much variation as that to result in a victory so I just assume your spirits are similar to other minions with perhaps one higher order who lets your domain be so absurdly powerful.
>>96171675
Magic obeys entropy as per the CYOA and exists in concentrated form showing some physical laws are obeyed, I also see no reason to permit this when once again balance is the primary conceit of the magic system.

>>96171705
We aren't ritualists spending 100s of hours trying to make some permanent ward, we are living weapons with our own personal and pragmatic limitations.

>>96171739
And that's why Luminaries are dying left and right.

>>96171731
>I would never reveal it to others openly.
>I would indeed brag, but-
You would think you were being subtle and clever, but actually everyone would see through you
This isn't a general thing, I mean you in particular
Also, It's fewer risks

>>96171726
Bring it up with Rake. He the one who said everything is equal. The old accidental magical girl just flat up said some schools like time were better.

>>96171739
If the creatures of light and dark have any infinite money machines why are they even on earth?
Either it eats ambient mana in the air, or it doesn't work

>>96171736
We're does it say magic obeys entropy? Genuinely curious as it isn't magic IMO if that is the case.

>>96171659
Yes, I agree on the narrative dissonance and missions feeling like traps (I only chose Abyss Spawn and Death-Squad Cleanup because I felt even a fresh Luminary had a chance with those). It is not all stupidity, but e.g. the description for missions in general sounds like an enforced "sink or swim" case from the "greater community". Either you succeed at a few missions to gain resources, allies and overall support or die trying. Or do not even bother trying and die alone anyway. They do not really seem to have an organised training system for new recruits, basically the equivalent of "here is a gun, go fight that enemy army by yourself, if you win we maybe help you next time".
The stupidity from said fresh individuals to charge in guns blazing because they are high on "i can shoot lightning!" then makes it even worse.
Which still does not make "none is a glass cannon but the Luminary mortality rate is sky high" a contradiction. As much as there are other flaws in the scenario (intended or not) and CYOA overall.

>>96167220
Luminaries do not require sustenance. They are perpetual motion machines.

Blood Magic and it's consequences have been a disaster for CYOAG.

>>96171736
>Just saying 'I have a counter for everything lol' does not make for interesting encounters.
I would not have a counter for each possible scenario but I would have a counter for each counter that I could think up for my ultimate. Speedsters are in the top of counters for my ultimate so it is not unrealistic if I hade several pacts to counter that. The Pact specialty even says that it makes me super versatile and I choose the neet life option so that I would have tons of free time to go and befriend spirits and collect pacts like a fucking pokemon trainer. I choose the neet life option for this instead of a quirk that boosted my combat powers in another area. I choose versatility and you chose to ignore it. The others choose jobs, I choose neet drop out student, my 5 years counts for more than their 5 years when it comes to developing my powers.

>>96171770

>>96171731
i use my speed and cut you down before you can use your domain or summon anything kek

Build rating shouldn't be in the form of a PVP tournament. You would think we would have learned that by now.

>>96171757
They're equal in the sense that overall the Schools are balanced. Time is obviously an overpowered school, but it eats up magical energy a lot faster than the others. You have to take everything into account. The others would presumably have similar limitations.

>>96171802
It says it defies entropy not obeys it.

>>96171824
It works for mcyoag.

>>96171824
Silly anon, how else would we play a game of imagination?

>>96171754
You can brag about something while not revealing anything important about it. For example, I could brag about my cock. It is a perfect cock and it is truly awe inspiring and amazing in all aspects. None who has seen it has left feeling anything but wonder and joyful bliss. It is a penis that does it's job and does it so well that it is a joy to see it work. Now tell me is my cock big, is it small, what shape has it? You don't know because I did not tell you anything about it, I just bragged about it and I could do the same with my ultimate art.

>>96171840
>first example that jumps to mind is cocks
lmao

I don't this classic has been posted since the pdf ban

>>96171827
Which is why everyone is trying to create an optimum mana machine and why the issue of blood magic is so contentious (a significant number of builds took it just for the mana conversation).

>>96171856

>>96171863

>>96171736
I just wouldn't bother butting heads with Tok's ego, he's going to insist he can beat the Radian Blaster easily no matter what you say about her build, his strategies are always masterful and he can never be outmaneuvered or beaten by anyone, everyone else is a stupid bruiser doll who'll easily fall for it. It's always how he argues.

>>96171803
I channel the power of an higher order spirit turning me into a melee god, block your attack and proceed to beat the shit out of you, pic realted

>>96171868

>>96171876

>>96171871
If Toks domain works the way he thinks it does he really would always win. Of course the ultimate arts are explicitly balanced and the domain in particular warns that it can't be "unfair", but we know Tok can't be trusted with creating his own ability.

>>96171875
my speed makes it so you cant even react fast enough to move your arm in front of my blade, and the blade is so sharp and fast itll cut even through high order phys users

>>96171871
He refuses to lose in his imagination game... Yeah I'm thinking based

>>96171875
>>96171929
>Nuh uh, my imaginary magic beats yours!

Why are there so many CYOAs named Luminary these days? What happened?

>>96171835
Maybe we could make a corpo raid dungeon with multiple powerful bosses with magical abilities and then compare how well each build would do?

>>96171944
Moving Italics is /cyoag/ tradition

>>96171947
That would actually be cool
And /tg/ish

>>96171947
Sounds fun, how many rooms and what sort of things should be tested. I'll write up the rooms but someone else will have to do the writeups on how builds fair.

https://imgchest.com/p/6eyrdor6l4p

I hereby claim this thread in the name of settlement/nation management CYOAs!
Congratulations /cyoag/ you are now civilized!

>>96171929
Too slow anon, I have already created a multi layered barrier using a combination of spirit magic and hard light constructs from radiant magic.

>>96171947
Neat idea and it likely would be kinder to my build (Golden Knight) which is a dedicated team tank.

>>96171975

>>96171981

>>96171947
That sounds really cool.

>>96171991

>>96170159
mine is not in there either brother, but rejoice as we are not on the same list as tok!

>>96171973
NTA but you didn't take any of the casting speed options. Drop Tok option for quickened spells and subsidized for complex outfit (light weight), and I would buy this interaction.

Rake makes his cyoas using AI.
He is not the author.
Some AI system is the author.
He is at best the assistant.

>>96172013
I saw it in a future vision from my patron Remial so I knew anon would try to agro speed rape me before it even happened

>>96171962
>how many rooms and what sort of things should be tested.
This reads like a question but you didn't put an ? at the end
I, nta, would estimate that it should be 5-8 rooms, and should have a variety of difficult to kill monsters and difficult to stop problems, made without consideration for how the party might solve them

>>96172017
He uses semicolons way too much, you can tell it is a human doing that AIfag

>>96172017
I fucking knew it. The soulless text was a giveaway. All the copied fantasy names were a dead giveaway. I'm leaving right now to go eat at a country steakhouse. I will be sure to seethe while I'm cutting into juicy sirloin...

>>96172017
>>96172040
>>96172045
>nooo you cant use ai to write more efficiently and more speedily nooo-
grow up

>>96172030
And now the future is different from the one you were shown and that trick won't work again. Face it Tok your build is suboptimal because of your lust and sloth.

>>96167220
> Male
> Witch-Like
> Shield
I'm not sure what implement to take, end up with shield to boost the ultimate art.

> Specialized in Spirit & Curses
They were my first choice and while I though of the bio sacrifice with spirit(probably with pact too) combo or take bio and tech for the growing tool and form, I end up going back to those two.
> Master Physicality & Space

>Large Reserves & Gifted & Shrounded Magic
Wish we could get more of those, Shourded is great for curses.

> Continuous : Automated Defence
Automated use of my various magic to defend me, Curses do defence like the rest but also dictate how to defend me for the best outcome for me, whatever best mean in any situation.

> Gaia & Urist & She Who Dreams In Shadows
I also wanted Old Bone but drop it for Urist's memory boost since I don't have soul space to keep a growing collections of trophies safe, Shadows with Shrouded Magic are a strong layer of defence together (don't be found and/or record/remember).

> Student
More time to study magic and its uses, don't care about grade.

> Klaus & Junko & Iris

>All missions
I will just leave if/when I don't think I can survive, more grow is good but I rather fight many easy battle than risk a suicidal one if I can help it.
Loot everything magical if only to study it and loot whatever other useful thing I can walk around with (get a big bag for tools and loot).

>>96172034
I think it should have traps magical and modern, some corpo trash mob patrols, a security system with an alarm that can go off if you aren't sneaky enough.

>>96172017
>That advanced fed AI you pissed off is actually a yandre AI that obsessively reads all your posts and is trying to win your heart by making CYOAs for you
Oh no

>>96172061
>Shrouded is great for curses.
Honestly a really good point.

>>96170005
Bitch looks like rape bait

>>96172081
Knowing Tok...

>>96172081
It's funny I knows it's a real anime character but I just see the Goddess of magic from Divine Trials.

>>96172091

>>96171975
i never understood the system for this one, like do you have to purchase the unit multiple times to get an army or do you just have to pay to unlock the unit for yourself

>>96172099

>>96172106
>>96172105
Purchase multiple times. You're purchasing the elite capital city garrison, not your entire army.

>>96172113

>>96171975
Higher resolution.

https://imgchest.com/p/dl7pd3bgp7o

>>96172147
It literally looks the same tho?

>>96172095
cyoa brainrot...

>>96172068
Given the presence of waifufags, I doubt an AI has to make CYOAs to get their affections. Anons are the easiest creatures in the inceldom.

>>96172030
and i can also see the future so youre not alone there, so your preparations are gonna be nill more than likely, especially as i can just keep my ult active from before the fight and hit you with the one shot before you can put anything up, heck just me moving through air can probably send a shockwave powerful enough to kill you, my sword would just be making sure of it by that point, with how small the arena is likely to be, i doubt you can react fast enough to cast or do anything with me going at speeds faster than a railgun shot

>>96168837
>Realm
Forest
Coast (Capital)
Tundra
Mountains
Volcanic
>Realm Features
Ancient Ruins
>Races
Humans
Dwarves
Giants (Personal Race)
>Cities
City Walls
Bazaar
Paved Roads
Sanitation
Shipwright
>Technology
Improved Metallurgy
Printing Press
Banking
>Personal
Charismatics
True Adept
Divination
>Perils
Raiders
The Cult
Dragon

>>96167220
A friendly reminder that this list is really fucking incomplete.

>>96167220
Updated "Kirei"

>>96172443
I don't remember every build, which makes checking if one is missing difficult. If your build isn't on the list please link or repost it and I will add it.

>>96170292
>tok once again espousing his hypocritical retarded tranny cope

>>96172530
>>96164969

>>96167220
Ultimate ranking when?

>>96171566
>>96171581
Interesting. I suppose it's a matter of quality, then? Bulk meals or fine dining is Artisan, while meals that heal or buff the eater is Alchemist. Magic food doesn't necessarily taste good, hahaha, but I figure the best cooking line would have some of both unit types. No, scratch that, the best would have some kind of flesh or plant Warper, which is wildly impractical for most troop formations. I figure Warper is the likeliest upgrade path for Artisan, where Animater is for Alchemist.

Go FUCK yourself you piece of SHIT (you know EXACTLY who in this thread I am referring to)

>>96172617
Tok?

>>96172617
I agree, fuck that guy

Luminary
Male
Powered
Gadget
Magic:
Tech: Specialized
Spirit: Master
Sacrifice: Adept
Dark:
Bioshifting: Specialized
Space: Novice
Quirks:
Large reserves, Gifted, Shrouded Magic
Art:
Continuous: The New Flesh: User has instinctual knowledge of and is composed of nanotechnology.
Patrons:
Gaia, Urist, Remial
Day Job: Corporate
Contacts: Junko, Iris, Klaus
Missions: Yes

Bit of an update to my build upon finding some flaws. With the range issue of soul gems I'll need space magic to make a pocket realm, specifically with Magnum Opus. This pocket realm will hold some reactors, batteries, and a central computer. I'll have miniscule portals open to chunks of my nanoswarm to provide connection so that I can be as spread out as I like. I'll probably need some shielding devices around then to prevent stuff from getting into the pocket realm.

>>96172656
Say who you are, no one wants to recheck all of them

>>96172677
If you don't recognize me then that's your own problem.

>>96172677
I've checked, he wasn't on the list before. I'll add him next time.

>>96172683
Ok..... you

>>96172677
>No image
>No name
How would I recognize you?

Luminary
Male
Powered
Gadget
Magic:
Tech: Specialized
Spirit: Master
Sacrifice: Adept
Dark:
Bioshifting: Specialized
Space: Novice
Quirks:
Large reserves, Gifted, Shrouded Magic
Art:
Continuous: The New Flesh: User has instinctual knowledge of and is composed of nanotechnology.
Patrons:
Gaia, Urist, Remial
Day Job: Corporate
Contacts: Junko, Iris, Klaus
Missions: Yes

>>96171657
>The honest voice that expose frauds like Shitalics and Entropissanon
Why are they frauds?

>>96171197
gay boi

>>96172061
gay boi

>>96172656
gay boi

>>96172714
gay boi

>>96171052
nice build

>>96172771
two of those are the same person, also, thanks for complimenting my Raikiri build

What determines the worth of an author?

>>96172875
How much I, personally, enjoy their content.

>>96172875
This >>96172904

I hate magical hacks.
They ruin the fun in CYOAs so I'll try to get rid of them.
>No permanent easy mind control.
Either it is temporary like you can order someone to do one thing, it is very difficult to maintain or it is very specific in it's effects like forcing others to kneel of they want to harm you in your presence.
>No hack attacks like shape shifting the body of your opponent or exploding them from a distance.
If you can shape muscle you will likely need to touch your opponent putting you in danger or throw a visible fireball to burn your opponent.
what are other common hack tier powers?

How do I prevent my OC from having feature creep?

>>96172957
What is feature creep?

>>96172971
Like adding too much shit

>>96172974
Maybe do what Tok does and set a page limit that you don't break and plan around?

>>96172974
Too much is relative.

>>96172957
If you think you'll get tired while going through a section, it may be bloat. This is, of course, subjective.

>>96171964
>Industrialist costs more points than Archwizard
>also have to take an extra challenge because its just that OP
Author knows that Tech always stomps

>>96171964
>here, have true immortality

>>96172957
After certain intervals, check what you wrote and try to make builds from it, as if you were a reader. If you notice any feature that's too niche, too redundant or too centralizing or that simply doesn't work with the rest, take them out or merge them with others.

>>96173033
Someone will always complain about not being immortal, so it costing ~1/3 of your inital point budget seems okay-ish?
On the other hand, there's no reason to not take biological immortality and having a bonus to stability and long term planning.

>>96171118
>Napoleonic Sniper
I fixed that in a reply to it. (The third one, same thread)

>>96172987
>>96172991
>>96173012
>>96173044
Let me put it this way, if the CYOA is structured as a fantasy setting and you already pick individual companions do you derive significant enjoyment and/or satisfaction from also choosing grunts/minions (Like instead of 1 unique individual X amount of Y unit type) or would you rather just have your personal build + whatever unique faggots you want with you

>>96173033
good boy!
/pet

>>96173088
Are those units used for anything? Or am I designing a kingdom? If I'm like an adventurer I don't need to know my minions unless I'm specifically choosing spells or a familiar or there's some resolution mechanic I'll need them for. If I'm building a kingdom or an army on the other hand, even if there's no resolution mechanics, I might want to imagine what kind of minions and soldiers I have for further customization.

>>96173088
I do derive significant enjoyment and satisfaction from choosing grunts and minions, but I also think brutalist architecture is comfy for some reason, which 90% of people disagree with. I recommend asking yourself if you, as a player, would enjoy having units and/or minions in your work.

>>96173088
I don't mind having to manage minions and while I'm personally not a fan of architecture some like it. But the main thing is that you should focus on what the cyoa wants to do, with too many features taking the focus away. If, say, your cyoa is about making a dungeon raiding party then the focus should be on you and your powers and your possible companions and perhaps a few quests, adding to that a home management and monster farm section would be redundant. However, if the monster farm and breeding is the main point of the cyoa then maybe cutting down on companions and powers would be a good deal so people actually read the parts you want them and build players according to your idea, now more focused.

>>96173088
Slop

>>96172147
Everything is too expensive. There are not enough points to get enough soldiers for a decent army, never mind city defenses and war machines.

Good thing Friendly and Nature's Wrath for free animal soldiers and Fortifications for free defenses exist, otherwise I would think this cyoa is instant lose with how weak a build can start as.

>Landforms:
2 Plains, 2 Rivers and Coasts, 2 Forests

>Defenses:
Martial Culture, Fortifications

>Capital City:
Location: Cliffside

>Army:
25 Men at Arms, 50 Archers, 50 Rangers, 75 Engineers, 62 Healers, 75 Marines, 50 Naval Engineers

>Magics:
Far Seeing, Druidic, Friendly, Synergistic

>Curses:
Not Far from War

>Lord's Powers:
The One to Rule, Nature's Wrath

>Allied Nation:
Aryatam

>Enemy Nation:
Kushan

>Region:
Bengrhata

Cyoa where I can beat women and then marry them?

>>96173282
Luminary (hus)

>>96173282
Zodiac Brides.

>>96173282
Real life (lesbian)

>>96173282
It really is just real life.

>>96172956
>what are other common hack tier powers?
Don't know how common it really is, but the thing that the worm comic and its associated cyoas call "path to victory," where it's just "yeah, you do whatever it is you might need to do to accomplish anything you want."

>>96171964
>Starting Location:
The Northern Tundra

>Perks:
Archwizard, Legendary Warrior, Brilliant Tactician, Midas Touched, Elusive Shadow, Grey Eminence, Great Scholar, Industrialist, Immortal, Godlike

>Items:
Munich Handbook of Necromancy, Lance of Longinus, Staff of Hermes, Emerald Tablet of Thoth, Tents and Supplies, Scrying Orb

>Followers:
10 Battlemages

>Tames:
all free ones

>Challenges:
Darkened Skies, Drought, Barbarians at the Gates, Behemoth

Leave for the Southern Steppes. The monstergirls coming in 20 years and all the other shit are not my problems.

>>96173434
>a grand total of 20 (twenty) followers
>they're only trained in usage of magic for war and combat
what "civilization" can you make with 20 people?

>>96173448
I have *check notes* infinite time. They will become a civilization eventually.

>>96173460
Not if we import 20000 Indians.

>>96173238
>There are not enough points to get enough soldiers for a decent army, never mind city defenses and war machines.
Anon you're buying defenders for one city.
+ you'll have guardsman/city watch to help defend it
+ you can raise a defensive militia in times of war ez just like everyone else
+ you can recruit and train more defenders in the future
>THE CYOA LE DIDN'T SAY YOU COULD
Doesn't matter. It's common sense.

>>96168702
I once asked chatgpt how it would design the matrix and it said the problem was a shared reality that could not satisfy such a diverse species, so it would just tailor-make a matrix for each human. Which would be totally trivial for it, really

New thread ----> >>96083171
New thread ----> >>96083171
New thread ----> >>96083171

>>96173675
Is Tok a good baker?

>>96173676
Have you tried Swedish sweets? Amazing.

>>96173675
Your Walk Bless is: Discipline

>>96171775
Your explanation is suspiciously overcomable by playing it smart. Sorry anon but I really feel that the setting is dangerous enough that Luminarys that go 100% offense are doomed. Sorry your build is NGMI but I don't really sympathize because there are a ton of caster friendly defensive options.

>>96174111
I don’t think it’s nearly as dark as either of you are thinking. It’s pretty tame compared to even the most common cyberpunk dystopias and post-Madoka magic girls. If Rake really wanted it to be some punishing deathtrap there would actually be some consequences to your use of dark magic or selection of patrons. The narrative alludes to darker themes at a surface level, but I don’t believe it mechanically backs it up. Again, especially in comparison to mainstays of the genre.

>>96174134
People simply wouldn't choose the patrons if there were real consequences to taking them. That's not really what we are talking about anyway. It what the cause of the mortality rate is. He thinks it's the structure of the system (missions, gunho attitude, etc.) which is definitely a factor, but I feel that girls with weak builds (relative "glass cannons") are dying too.

>>96174134
Oh give me a break. There is no orthodoxy when it comes to fiction and frankly I think you are overstating it anyway. Sure some media has followed in the steps of Madoka, but that's far from universal. Even if it was, Rake can be old school if he wants.

>>96174111
>playing it smart
Which is what random hormonal teenagers might struggle with?
>setting is dangerous enough
Which is what I was saying?
>Sorry your build is NGMI
Whichever build you think is mine that might be struggling, I see decent chances for my survival.

In both of my posts I was talking about the alleged contradiction that no Luminary is a glass cannon but they still have a high mortality rate. It was never about any builds but about that tidbit of setting lore. The player is not only given more power than a regular starting Luminary, he is also (presumably) smarter than the violent teenagers with a grudge that are usually chosen.

>>96174162
Lacking explicit defense options (Spirit first and foremost) is not deadly in itself. It all depends on tactics. Marie only has Binding, fulfilling the "relative glass cannon" part (unless I missed something). But she fights cautiously from a range, restricting her enemies' movements and luring them into a position where they can neither attack her nor dodge/block her finisher. She fights cleverly and thus made it far enough to actually reach her specialisation level potential.
My argument is that she is an outlier, thus explaining the high death rate.

>>96174134
>post-Madoka magic girls
The only one of those series that has become popular (other than continuing Precure content which is as optimistic as ever) was Gushing Over which is really more about rape-them-until-they-like-it than anything truly psychologically dark. All the legitimately edgy shit is just ignored.

>>96174219
Yea we don't agree on what defense is. Invisibility is a defense, not being hit because you terrafomed the battlefield is a defense, having a friend draw aggro is a defense, but I think there are quite a few idiot girls who do nothing but shoot lightning at people with a weak outfit, an offensive ultimate, and no relevant quirks, who die.

>>96174219
>Marie only has Binding, fulfilling the "relative glass cannon" part
Not really. Due to the all encompassing nature of magic resistance, wrapping yourself up in anything sufficiently magical and durable can defend quite well. I wouldn't be surprised if Marie has defenses like barriers made of bindings.

>>96174254
A lot of magic has defensive applications like Earth or Flora, I am talking about pure offensive magic like lightning or flame.

>>96170423
>get put in a 1v1 with no prep time when my entire build is reliant on prep, initiative, and stealth
bros... why do i keep losing?

>>96174219
Radiant and Physicality are also other decent primary defense specializations, Force, Earth and Shadow are good secondary ones.

>>96174265
Lightning has some potential later on, but it requires a smart girl. Since it gives you magnetism powers eventually, as long a you can get your hands on some metal, you can use it to make armor and mobile defensive metal shields. It's far from the best defense application in the CYOA, but it's not completely helpless. Flame truly is without direct defensive or even evasion or misdirection options.

>>96174265
>pure offensive magic like lightning or flame
They still have defensive means, like wrapping in lightning or flame. A kind of "defense by offense".

>>96174265
>>96174278
Honestly going through the magic list most of them have room for creative defensive applications. If you do smart things like for example Agnes who's ultimate is a shield even though she is primarily offensive, you should be fine.

>>96174246
Which boils down not to being a glass cannon but to being stupid.

>>96174254
>>96174278
Note the "relative" part. Spirit is the obvious defense option because it explicitly encompasses classic shields. Frost and Radiant at master level explicitly mention supernaturally tough ice and hard light constructs respectively. Other schools also have similar applications.
>>96174265 has it right with e.g. Lightning having no defensive application mentioned aside from very creative and situational uses of the magnetism aspect to protect against metal. Still, your mentor/partner/senpai Sera only mentions being good with Lightning herself and still made it far enough.
Flame and Shadow technically "do not count" in my argument since it was about non-player Luminaries and their high mortality rate.

>>96174308
Glass cannons ARE stupid.

>>96174278
>Radiant/Frost Master-level shields are just "stronger than steel"
These are trap options. Other disciplines are piercing steel as early as Adept or sometimes even Novice, steel+ strength shields aren't shit.

>>96174316
You're not factoring in the fact that they're tanking magical attacks as magical constructs. Meaning they're actually stronger against more powerful magic than they are a mundane bullet.

>>96174294
See this theoretical smart girl would be well served by say having the soul space quirk that they fill with some good metal objects for defense. Not having a game plan (i.e complementary choices) is what I am talking about.

>>96174316
Meanwhile Force shields have no stated limit to their power... besides probably being useless against immaterial magical attacks like Radiant.

>>96174326
When options work better against magic they say so (like adept spirit).

>>96174333
Sadly in lore you don't get to pick your quirks, so having a good quirk for your magic and being smart are not always factors that align.

>>96174342
All magic resists magic interference, read the last page.

>>96174326
Do you think a tech-enhanced bullet counts as a physical attack or a magical one? Or both? How about a pebble accelerated to bullet speeds through Earth? Or a piece of metal flung by a Force user? Or a railgun-esque attack from a Lightning user >>96174294? Surely a punch from a Physicality user counts as physical

>>96174349
That's just the bs explanation for enemy scaling, it doesn't necessarily apply to magic itself.

>>96174371
>Doesn't count

>>96174346
The other girls played a RYOA and some get unlucky and die. That's my whole point.

>>96174312
Wrong. You can have only Lightning and thus qualify as "(relative) glass cannon" but still be smart about how and what you fight. You can also have Spirit and Tech but be stupid and thus lose/die early in your career.

>>96174334
Force has shields? I picture it as more akin to the invisible hands from Elfen Lied.

>>96174349
That mentions "magical beings", not "magical constructs".

>>96174365
Tech sounds a lot like enchanting starting with adept level so I would ascribe an added magical effect to it. Everything else is more open to interpretation but dropping a building-sized boulder like Yue likes to do should still require more than a novice Spirit shield, regardless of magic or not.

>>96174365
If some magical effect is attached at the point of impact, the attack is at least to some degree magical. So, if you accelerate metal with lightning magic but don't do anything else, it is not magical. If you accelerate metal and add a lightning enchantment to it, it is both magical and physical.

>>96174386
Idiots die regardless it's just that even smart glass cannons are at a greater likelihood on average of death (and sure some might even make it anyway).

Any girl worth her salt is picking up a grab-bag of novice and maybe a couple adept level moves from various schools anyway. CYOA says that's normal for them and you're not actually prevented from learning other schools, you just don't have the innate talent/potential in them. If you think Spirit is so important I'm sure everyone takes the time to learn how to at least make a shield, if not advancing the school itself.

>>96174417
And yet they still die.

>>96174386
Force is said to be able to stop bullets, which might not be a shield as much as repulsion, but for any tangible target that's effectively the same thing.

>>96174417
Obviously, the problem is having the time (and brains) to do so before you die. Reaching your regular potential is stated to take at least 5 years with surviving many near-death battles Saiyajin style. Learning stuff from outside your potential/aptitudes, even just novice level, takes even longer. Sylka mentions not bothering with new Luminaries that might not make it a few months, which was one of the whole points of the mortality discussion.

>>96174426
Just like the hands in Elfen Lied, though I suspect the magic having better range.

>>96174424
Yeah because having the time/contacts to be able to do that and the base intelligence to know you should is not a universal trait. And even if you are starting to learn some stuff, a big oil monster can come by tomorrow and step on you before you've completed said training. Like any kind of combat group most of the causalities are going to be among the least experienced, girls in their first year or two who haven't even advanced much in the primary school(s).

>>96174442
Dicloni did nothing wrong. Preventing the next step in human evolution is a mistake, like letting Homo Erectus bash in the first Sapiens' skull in the cradle.

>>96172554
Done, with other ratings
https://rentry.co/luminaryrate1
This took much longer then expected

>>96174452
>F in all categories

>>96174453
Yes

>>96174452
You missed all the new builds posted in this thread, anon.

>>96174452
What about all the builds in this thread though?

>>96174462
>>96174464
I will add them when they join the build list
Tomorrow probably
I will not be reviewing tok

>>96174462
>>96174464
D's and E's

>>96174452
These are really bad lol. At first I was insulted but it honestly really funny.

>>96174470
>t. Tok

>>96174470
It honestly?
But how?

>>96174477
Tok wasn't rated.

>>96174452
Nice, thanks anon.

>>96174470
Tell me the rating you most deeply think should change
No one responds that fast without having looked up their own name

>>96174480
I don't have the time or the canyons anon.

>canyons

>>96174502
Well duh, that's why I said I felt insulted at first. But my (and when I checked most of the others) builds feedback was legit bad.

>>96174506
>>96174511
Dam auto correct, still I need to stop eating them if I make mistakes like that.

>>96174517
Anon, stop eating your crayons.

>>96174522

>>96174452
This list feels like massive subterfuge wank above all else, especially in survival i.e. you tend to completely ignore the effects of survival based magic like physicality, bioshifting or spirit or ones which boost your odds like celerity. You seem to assume ever actually being in a fight is a massive loss to survival chances, ignoring things like armor or regeneration relative to level which leads to something like shrouded magic being hyper-wanked when delirium is in fact a thing which already exists.

You've also ignored bioshifting as an infiltration option with transforming yours or others features and minion creation

Strength against light seems like literally just what the tournament was but I've come to very, very different conclusions to you on what would be effective there.

I understand that something like gifted is kinda vauge in how far it gets you but given how seriously yu take other quirks the ability to pick up some ritual magic shouldn't be completely ignored.

That is my full critique of your list.

>>96174545
Yea a lot of critique that was just an implicit "your build should have taken She Who Dreams in Shadows".

Stealthchuds lose

>>96174545
Is ritual magic about using the magic in the surrounding so you need Hungry Magic for it, or is it a spellcasting method and you can use your own energy ?

>>96174564
latter

>>96174568
Yep but Hungry magic might be a good boost for a ritualist.

>>96174545
Yes, it is probably a bit of subterfuge wank, as I assume the biggest challenges will come there.
This is about a shadow war, where you must hide secrets from both sides
Also, as a general thing, I think most of these options can be countered with prep time, so being known is dying. The strongest in the setting keep secrets
Survival should have been clarified, I didn't mean "Ability to avoid danger" I meant "Likelyhood to survive to the end of the war", And because of that, your strategy was usually more important then your build
Most luminaries die

I took bioshifting in my build as an infiltration option, I just don't think I should be "running the characters for them" as it were
If a synergy exists and you don't mention it, I will assume a minimal, last resort use of it
(I actually didn't mention it, as was going to update my build to reference it more)
Also magic is personalised, meaning that using bioshaping for stealth would require specific practice

Strength against light includes sneak attacks, terrain, and general bastard techniques, different to a tournament
Because of this, anyone who cannot avoid being regularly bombed or jumped is disadvantaged

Gifted is a bit of a wildcard, I don't think we know enough about the setting to fully determine its value
When I was thinking of it, I supposed that time training was time training, and that until you plateau at the level described in the cyoa you would be better off sticking to your talents

Alright criticisms, I see where you are coming from

>>96174595
>Gifted is a bit of a wildcard, I don't think we know enough about the setting to fully determine its value
It's non-Luminary magic, basically you have talent in doing what the Enemy does for their magic, though you're obviously not restricted to Dark (neither are they, they're just zeroed in on being evil.) Our best example of someone specialized in doing this is Voss who is 'capable of warping space-time' and is 'a match for any Luminary.' That's probably a bit of a hyperbole, one of the Pure would stomp a mud-hole in her, but it does show that traditional magic CAN be pretty strong when applied to combat, if not giving us more specific feats. At this, it's definitely less efficient than your Luminary magic, so the main reason you'd use it in combat is to broaden your capabilities, if for some reason it would be better or more convenient than learning something from the Schools. The real question is all the non-combat applications of non-Luminary magic, which we don't get as much information about but which we do know it has, since Luminaries are hyper-specialized into combat by design.

>my build was rated poorly
yeah the ratings are bad

>>96174634
Yes, it's very strong, the wildcard is how easy it is to learn
Someone with a net worth in the billions working at one of the magic conglomerates can obviously use their full talent and learn everything, but as a highschooler you aren't going to be running into any magic tomes
Or maybe you are, it's a wildcard. It could require that you learn ancient babylonian script and travel the world searching for fragments of stone carvings, or there could be real living open institutions of magic just barely out of the public eye, We don't know

>>96174639
A poor power rating doesn't mean a bad build!
As long as you chose honestly and/or made an interesting character, you added to the world
Unless you were trying to powergame, in which case you jobbed

>>96174655
The solution: steal from the corpos.

>>96174655
Funny enough your best bet is going to be stumbling onto shit while doing your duties, every corpo facility you bust into to beat up some new horror monster might have some spell instructions lying around.

>>96174595
Subterfuge would definitely be very useful in winning the war but in terms of survival if you look at the upper ranks shown i.e. myrmidions and old gaurd they all seem to be combat specialists with the oldest and strongest of them leaning heavily on defensive stuff like spirit and physicality. Suggesting that subterfuge is the only way to go about things seems to run directly contrary to the observed preferences of the setting.

Your definition for survival makes your choices for it even more baffling given your seemingly dislike the above mentioned survival specialist schools. Another note here is that most luminaries are massively weaker than the player character, with the narrator saying as much even when your just 5 points and 1 speciality to say nothing of how far you are with an additional speciality and access to dark schools.

>>96174667
>>96174668
And as long as the texts don't require a language/mathematical degree you'll be fine
Actually when I think of it the best way would be to capture a warlock live and beat it out of him, and you could probably do that pretty consistently
I guess gifted was better then I thought, thanks

>>96174452
>My build is STILL ignored (not telling which one).
Maximum subterfuge achieved, my survival is guaranteed.

>>96174664
This is a mcyoag post if I've ever seen one.

>>96174684
Marael seems to just be Radiant and Sacrifice though

>>96174695
Never been
The wall of text frightens me

>>96174705
Damn. An inborn mcyoag poster.

>>96174684
The upper ranks of old combat groups are combat based
All the hide-chads have been forgotten by the records, and don't speak to newbies

Also, that we, by default, have enough power to win most battles is why schools that help with even battles are underweighted, the battles you must prepare for are the messy ones. If you stay on the backfoot for too long it will kill you
The war only ramps up from here and eventually something bad will happen. There are explicitly monsters made in labs to counter the abilities of luminaries

I think a bit of spirit and phys is extremely useful, almost mandatory, but if you rely on them you'll regret it

>>96174753
If we're talking about time, you're also dealing with the fact that you're eventually going to be old and strong enough that you should be turning into a Pure, and when you're not, suddenly your bosses are going to have questions for you. And if they figure out you're completely unshackled and on your way to becoming a Greater Spirit of fucking Twilight or whatever they're going to want to kill you too. So you know, start working on your plans for that eventuality too, not just anti-Luminary Dark monsters.

>>96174777
Yes, that too
There are many things to be done so humanity might prevail

>>96174695
Good. We're getting closer to a reunion.

>>96174753
>All the hide-chads have been forgotten by the records, and don't speak to newbies
See image

Your second point is equally as ridiculous, the inevitiability of combat is why builds with low 1 on 1 combat power are less likely to survive, your arguing against hard checks or CC stuff like illusion, psychic, death or dark being as useful because peer combat is all but inevitable by your own argument (I'm not saying it is). Someone who's tanky and fast is much, much more likely to survive peer level combat than a summoner and debuffer like Death or Pact, or a jack of all trades like tech.

It should also be noted that 'hide chads' as you call them will always be weaker than an equivalent aged luminary of the same talent, because, big suprise here, the combat mages thrive on combat.

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>If we're talking about time, you're also dealing with the fact that you're eventually going to be old and strong enough that you should be turning into a Pure, and when you're not, suddenly your bosses are going to have questions for you. And if they figure out you're completely unshackled and on your way to becoming a Greater Spirit of fucking Twilight or whatever they're going to want to kill you too. So you know, start working on your plans for that eventuality too, not just anti-Luminary Dark
If we're talking THAT long term, the Old Bone Mother is an interesting choice. After all, what happens when a luminary tied to both the Old Bone Mother and a Light patron (or two) dies? I think you can argue that - at least - all the power invested in the luminary would flow to the Old Bone Mother (death god, and all that).

But is that all? I can also argue that the dead "shared" luminary would be the equivalent of a pipeline directly to the Light patron, potentially allowing the Old Bone Mother to try and bleed the Light patron dry.

I don't know if that is what would happen . . .but I can't say that it wouldn't. And I doubt whether anyone else in the cyoa knows, either. So they'd have to be extra careful coming after you.

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>>96174825
>psychic
Sort've wish I had room for this one in my build, mind control is fun.

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>>96174825
>Someone who's tanky and fast is much, much more likely to survive peer level combat than a summoner and debuffer like Death or Pact, or a jack of all trades like tech.
>It should also be noted that 'hide chads' as you call them will always be weaker than an equivalent aged luminary of the same talent, because, big suprise here, the combat mages thrive on combat.
Which is why the Hide Chads would have to make preemptive strikes over the years, sabotaging older luminaries and murdering younger ones who seem likely to turn on them. If it ever turns into a "fair" fight, they're in a lot of trouble.

Of course, if their conspiracies and murderous schemes ever came out, it would provoke a massive backlash by the other luminaries. Which would encourage the next Twilight lumiary to go Hide Chad. . .

(People with power can so rarely trust each other.)

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>>96174825
>Come on now
Yes it was a joke
You should have heard they way I said it internally

I think illusion, psychic and death are very useful, when used right

Also, being an equivalent aged luminary is losing. The whole point is to survive longer

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>>96174848
Mind control is erotic

>>96174872
This guy gets it
Fighting fair is missing the point

>>96174887
Just be careful. At some point, you're just Dark "with extra steps".

>different timezone mean everyone is asleep when i wake up
fuck vacations

>>96174994
It's a good aesthetic.

>>96175072
>vacay
>new environnement, new choices, new faces
>choose to come back to this subhuman squat
Go enjoy your vacation, retard. The thread will be there when you come back.

>>96174884
t. Tokbrained

>>96175314
We all are a bit quirky, he's just the one to own it

>>96175072
your vacation will be over soon

Hog wild >>96083171

>he tried to trick me again
nah buddy... nah

lol the uk is so cooked

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