GW have started listing The Old World as a core property game, and *above* Age of Sigmar in that list.

Interesting.

>>96211572 (OP)
>2025
>Being interested in GWslop
No.

>>96211572 (OP)
>death and destruction have triumphed
wasnt chaos the winner?

>>96211572 (OP)
And Horus heresy is above both.. that's even more interesting

>>96211572 (OP)
Too bad the setting and aesthetic changes they made to Fantasy prior to and in the making of TOW turned it into pure Reddit.

If they returned focus to the most popular faction, Death, then Sigmar would explode in popularity. Unfortunately they keep trying to make NPC factions like Chaos and Destruction popular, which will never happen.

>>96211572 (OP)
don't think sales are any better for TOW than AoS

but I do think that GW internally has more fans of WHFB than AoS.

Not even an article reciting 10-year history of AoS let alone a commemorative model. Seems like every article talking about what the staff is working on as far as painting and games, there's rarely a mention of AoS.

Creatively a younger member of the team that wrote many AoS 3e tomes and Warcry left GW, as well as some key people retiring at the beginning of 3e. The 4e rules are shit and not really promoting a wargame, focusing on onboarding new players more than retaining old ones.

My best guess is aos will continue targeting "mainstream" audiences through Spearhead and simplified rules while TOW exists as the actual fantasy wargame or for people craving a deeper hobby experience.

>>96211572 (OP)
>time you could have spent painting models or playing with your friends

>>96211648
Games Workslop is how many people get into ttrpgs. You should be thanking them.

>>96212282
Thanking them for what? Attracting the kind of screeching retard that enjoys gwslop to orbit around real wargames?

>>96212182
This, AoS is for children and mentally stunted adults

>>96211572 (OP)

It's ova for Age of Smegmar

>>96211572 (OP)
>all of the retardation and anti-hobby anti-consumer bullshit of AoS going to TOW
Fuck!

>>96211572 (OP)
> CEO can't even use the term 'Grim-Dark/grimdark' correctly
Jesus

>>96212612
That's true of all tabletop miniature wargames. People who aren't mentally stunted stop playing with their toys once they grow up.

>>96211572 (OP)
>as a core property game
I think you misunderstand. They've listed as a core IP. Not a core game. You know how they threaten legal action every time someone says "space marine?" That. Not a game.

>>96214634
>if someone says old world GW will track them down with the new UK ID law to sue them for IP theft even if they wetr referring to the old world as in Europe, Africa, Asia, and Oceania

>>96214675
Honest to god: would you even be surprised if they did?

>>96214683
You brought up the Spots the space marine incident so I'm just expecting it at this point.

>>96211572 (OP)
>huuuur durrrp TOW is better tgan AoS because its name is written before AoS.
>Ignoring the massive trash Horus Failresy is before TOW.

Why TOW/HWF grognards so retarded?? If TOW was wrote first in the list would you consider it better and more played than 40K?? Wooow, such tremendous imbecile, smegma sucker.

>>96214759
>was in the
yeah i would be pretty fucking concerned if GW listed the flag ship franchise second to anything else in the list explaining their properties.
that would be fucking weird.

it's a better argument to suggest this is a sandwich, strongest on the top, strongest on the bottom and the middle the mid.

>>96214759
Primary 40k setting, secondary 40k setting, primary fantasy setting, secondary fantasy setting. Pattern recognition is just a bit too demanding for the average smeggie

>>96211572 (OP)
My Local GW store doesn't even carry Old World, so don't get too excited.

My lgs had an old world night once a week for a month and there were a total of 5 people who showed up across all 4 weeks out together. They killed it for an aos spearhead night and there are 10 or more people playing every single week. Much like it was in the past, there's a significantly larger amount of people claiming to play fantasy than there are actually willing to play it

>>96211648
This is a /v/ troll.

>>96216600
TOW only lives for nostalgia, and the people who still play it are the same 10 WHF widows grognards who still crying about how GW killed their game.
Cathay was a real surprise because was something 100% new and looked really good. But TOW cried "not warhammer enough; overdesigned; females?!?!; chinese propaganda; too many center pieces; etc". Who bought Cathay? AoS players for alternative CoS. At this point, GW should release 2 new models for 1 faction every 5 months and call it a win, not wasting money, effort and time in a game no body plays and the people who play it hates everything new.

Gotta reach for crumbs I guess.

>AoShitters still crying over TOW
Truly a wonderful genre of posting.

>>96217484
No new models, keep re-releasing old ones

>>96218891
they just released a whole faction of new models

>>96211572 (OP)
Cool
Does that mean both it and AoS can now live in peace in their own niches?

>>96218500
you see, whfb is long dead and irrelevant, even now. which is why we still need to cry over it.

>>96214570
GW games aren’t wargames, which is a gentleman’s hobby

>>96218500
TOW is just a reminder of how out of touch GW is
A good video game can resurrect an entire franchise while GW ignores anything about them kids and their vidyer gams

>>96217490
Nice cat. Going in my feline folder.

>>96211572 (OP)
>be from Hungary
>you can comfortably live your entire life here, never meeting a single tranny
>local hobby place held an AoS tournament about 6 months ago
>there were three trannies there
And that's how I learned that AoS being a tranny game is not a meme

>>96221309
Which store was it? My guess would have been HammerTime Cafe because I regularly saw some trannies there (and they were the least of the problems with the place), but afaik they haven't held any AoS tournaments for a while.

>>96221309
lmao thats disgusting
glad I dont play that shit
never seen a troon at a 40k tournament

>>96221309
Least gay AOS event

>>96211572 (OP)
Old World is hard carried in terms of popularity by the Total War: Warhammer games

>>96231847
what a fucking cope
then why was that aos game a total failure?
the old world has an actually interesting world and characters unlike aos

>>96231995
I know you're a sea monki, but I will ask anyways, have you read a single TOW arcane journal since the games launched?

>>96232015
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>>96232024
cope, seethe. The old world is dogshit and no one is actually reading into it.

>>96232043

>>96232080
>>96232024
You wouldn’t understand true sovl

>>96232080
>>96232024
>aos hater only has images from ten (10) (diez) years ago to make their argument
cope seethe you don't play games

>>96232177
>got this triggered over a single image
damn

>>96231995
>then why was that aos game a total failure?

Because it was shithouse

>>96219737
>A good video game can resurrect an entire franchise
If the franchise has something to offer in the first place.
AoS won't be sold through a game because there's no setting there to work with.

>core property game

Careful what you wish for, just ask 30k players.

>>96233942
Did they get screwed recently or what?

>>96233963
Their game became worse in every sense of the word, rules wise
A mate of mine said that its Warmachine Mk3 levels of bad, but I can't judge myself

>>96233963
Options?: Orbitaly nuked
Rules?: written by Abundent Indians
Schedule?: faked and ignored
enshittified plastic models as a bonus.
Whole units deleted for most armies, some armies de facto deleted.

This hurt like nails in the brain, brothers.

>>96234100
Sounds like they should stick with the last edition then.

>>96234100
To make matters worse, Heresy 2.0 was very fucking dull for last year or so, content in new books was streched very thin, like Martian Civil war haveing almost no new Mechanicum stuff.
And all this because rule team was focused on Heresy 3.0.