Does anyone think Warhammer 40k is starting to get more hate online? I am not talking in a usual sense typically the only people hating Warhammer are former fans who hate GW or Nu 40k however recently I have been seeing more push back agasint Warhammer in general.

Is the fanbase getting too annoying?

>>96215185 (OP)
It’s the favorite IP of edgy teenage boys who love being chuds so they shit up everything online. Frankly, even the fags who hate nu 40K will go into defense mode for it.

>>96215185 (OP)
40kids only really become that annoying when they pout and throw a tantrum that something in their setting isn't the best and teh strongest of any setting ever.

>>96215185 (OP)
>Is the fanbase getting too annoying?
Probably, idk. I tune out when people start talking about space marines.

People have hated 40k fans for fucking years, newfag. They've long been the bronies of tabletop and genre fic, unable to have a conversation without dragging a space marine or a tired meme about "lel filthy xenos xD"

>>96215211
I remember I met a guy who is the usual hates nu40k, the primaris marine stuff, and 8 th but I told him Warhammer in general was gay and the kid threw a hissyfit over the fact I said warhammer in general is gay and not the specific new one

If you asked the tweeter in the OP what other sci-fi setting they were trying to talk about it would probably be like anime, Love and Robots, or Apex Legends

>>96215185 (OP)
>used to make those kind of arguments when I was a kid who didnt know any better (im talking like 12)
>nobody else knew what 40k was at that time so nobody cared
>nu-40k fans are unironically in their 30s and spout the same childish arguments that I made all those years ago with no hint of irony

I don’t know why 40K is not considered bad fandom tier yet shits been bad for years

>>96215379
Because even the biggest anti nu 40k anti GW person like >>96215342 will still defend Warhammer they don’t like it when all of 40K is considered bad

>>96215185 (OP)
Yes, and I proudly contribute. It is every citizens solem duty to shill alt-wargames at flgs while using AoS as a gateway drug, all the while sneering at the 40kek and Kill Team landwhales.

>>96215242
Tell me about it. I can't go on a week without someone saying "doood did u hear that Emperor is alive because Orks will it XD?"

>>96215379
Secondaries keep it afloat with ai voiced lore slop.

>>96215185 (OP)
I've had a baffled american ask me if Warhammer is big in my country. He told me that the only thing he knows about it is that nazis like it. I'm not kidding, this is an actual conversation I've had.

>>96215403
Based American doing his part in killing 40k

>>96215185 (OP)
this was the case 10-15 years ago. Now you just have retards who act like its still a thing because theyve heard it and you know the internet loves regurgitating shit

>>96215258
all the shit people complain about now we hated in 1999...it has always been a ponzi scheme for new starters and the very deranged.

why isn't 150GBP enough to play toy soldiers? note how these men live and dress.

https://youtu.be/se0wcEahqyc?feature=shared

Chud 40K fans on twitter proudly defend it you can’t shit on it. You only can shit on GW or modern 40k the true problem fans are these guys too they are still the worst 40k fanboy

>>96215211

>>96215386
im the guy who you (you)'d

40k is fucking shit now

Why do you hate Warhammer then if you weren’t a fan of it originally? Genuinely, explain to me why as I know Nu 40k is a crock of shit but you aren’t serious in hating all of Warhammer right? The old stuff was pure soul.

>>96215474
It’s always been an overrated setting propped up by retards so much other better war games existed with better lore and hobbying but nooooo muh warhammer is for manly men. People like you are unable to try other games you are too comfortable in warhammer and thus are no better than a modern warhammer player

>>96215470
GEMMY GEM GEEEEM

Reminder that Imperium of Man solos GAYlo, Star WOKES, and TRANS Effect

>>96215474
It’s just edgy garbage that lost its original meaning because media literacy is dead

>>96215474
I don’t like the near constant raids against other sci-fi, the shit memes, or the midwits who take it seriously politically

>>96215474
Rogue Trader was okay - edgy pulpy Judge Dread sillyness was kind of kino, but then it became cringeslop about Imperium and dudes-in-armor that wear ugly helmets. To me, 40k stinks of mid-tier writters trying to be profound and serious while having none of the skill for it, but all of the seethe for having to write for a toy company and not the next National Wonder Novel

>>96215474
It’s a setting that lost its satire and embraced taking it serious now with the kind of fans who love it. Now they try to downplay all the appealing chud lore they made but the retards still stay

>>96215474
>soul
No. You can’t convince anyone it was. If it were, people would flock to it.

>>96215540
>>96215559
Trannies that’s not a true reason

>>96215474
overrated
overwrought
derivative
done

let it rest ffs
mutant chronicles was always cooler

>>96215185 (OP)
The fanbase has always been annoying, this twittershitter is just slow on the uptake (probably because he's mentally retarded like (You)).

>>96215531
>near constant raids against other scifi
this happens far less than is often claimed, its basically restricted to places solely devoted to vsbs

>>96215474
Anon you're in a thread meant to rile up Warhammer fans and haters, you won't get an opinion here that's actually worth much. As it stands 40k is fine, it's a fun setting and people like both its old and new aspects but GW is a shit company and people can get tired of its dominance in the wargames scene as well as certain fans who are annoying and call everything heresy while making it their personality.

Frankly there's probably more pushback because in general a lot of so-called "nerd" fans are actually people who latch onto the popular thing and so the pendulum is swinging towards disliking nerdy interests yet again, at least against more "extreme" nerd things like tabletop games. Plenty of retards who just call it nerdy cringe while playing their videogames and watching their marvel movies, unaware that if they had been born 10 years earlier they'd hate that shit too.
Disregard these individuals as subhumans, when 40k gets popular enough for an adaptation they'll latch onto it and say they were always a fan.

>>96215510
>using the media literacy unironically
>acting like the plastic toy soldier game that ripped off 2000ad, dune and starwars. has a deeper meaning.

>>96215540
post your RT models or lose all cred
>>96215559
>satire
>og 40k
you mean the game cobbled together out of nothing, produced a breakneck speeds and ripping off anything they could get their hands on.
yes i'm sure there was bitting satire in the bits they lifted whole sale from 2000ad.
fucking retards.
it's okay not to say anything you blokes, rather than spew reddit tier midwit nonsense.

>>96215595
>mutant chronicles was always cooler
best opinion in the thread.

>>96215561
>No. You can’t convince anyone it was. If it were, people would flock to it.
we've literally seen an oldhammer renaissance and it's going to keep growing.
but to keep it in low IQ american terms for you.
McDonald is popular
but it's food is bad.
how can that be?
if thing not good, why it everywhere?
answer dumb: people go for it.
hows your newest 40k army anon?

>>96215860
Basically.

>>96216146
Love Gundam but this is an issue that plagues almost every piece of 'anti-war' media. Even so, Gundam shows that war is horrible but also sometimes necessary to stop evil beliefs.
The piece of Gundam media that sends the message of "war is bad" best is War in the Pocket. What an amazing OVA.

>>96215595
>Double barreled, double feed pump-action shotgun
Not even 40k's that cool

>>96215595
>>96216603
Here's the cover I forgot to add..

>>96215474
>>96215655
It never had soul
it was always soulless trash that ultimately took from better media

>>96215185 (OP)
I'm ambivalent about the game itself, I think the setting is derivative but meh, but the fanbase is absolutely one of the worst on the entire net.

>>96216146
Laibach

>>96215185 (OP)
good. burn it all the fuck down. GW shat on its core playerbase of hobbyists to chase normiebux. Let them reap what they've sown.

>>96215880
but anon they said Birmingham was The Black Planet, isn't that biting satire?

I'm starting to wonder if that's just a Black Sabbath reference since they're from Birmingham, but likely that's too subtle for that era of 40k. They just stole the name outright and maybe changed a letter when they wanted to reference something, see Pirate Mustaine and Calvin Morris here. More likely just a jab at Birmingham.

>>96215185 (OP)
>Does anyone think Warhammer 40k is starting to get more hate online?
Understandably so. I say this as someone who likes Warhammer 40k.
>Is the fanbase getting too annoying?
Yes.
People just want to talk about science fiction but when people constantly bring up 40k in a "my fictional sci-fi setting can solo your fictional sci-fi setting" it gets annoying.

>>96215389
Every discussion about the new avatar is destroyed by tradlarper vermin screeching DA BLUE ALIENZ R AKSHULLY DA VILLINZ CUZ MUH WARHAMMERINO SAID HUMANITY IS LE GOOD

>>96217393
I thought we left that SDN, OBD, and SB powerlevel shit in the 2000s. People still try to do that?

>>96215185 (OP)
Yeah, but then they keep making decisions that piss off their customers.

>>96217191
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Country

>>96215185 (OP)
Probably. I stopped caring when faggots cry about something. I only come to hate threads for new IP to explore. This beautiful handsome SOB here
->>>96216624
Is what I'm talking about. I get the possibility of new cooler things to enjoy. Everyone else might as well post ai wojack edits.

My love of warhammer has dwindled over the years mostly because of the fanbase itself, doesn't help that GW keeps shitting the bed. The tiring part is whenever GW fucks up, which is the majority of the time, you'll have people have faux outrage before consuming it again as seen by the constant sales of GW shit with FOMO boxes always going out of stock and new greytide armies constantly being seen out in the wild. I don't want to be part of that statistic anymore.
What gets me is that when the faux outrage does die down, if you bring it up at any time in the future, you get shut down for being a "secondary" and "being a grog whiner" like half of the faggots in 40k related discussions (Including the cesspit of /40kg/) weren't up in arms about it mere weeks ago. 40k players in of themselves aren't bad, 40kfags I despise.

>>96215474
>Game is mediocre at best
>Lore is stupid as fuck
>It's capeshit
>It's everywhere

>>96215595
>mutant chronicles was always cooler
Finally a good opinion

>>96215211
Pic related?

>>96216731
Literally everything takes from other media, and while you personally dislike 40k that doesn't mean there weren't people who wrote and painted and played it with passion. I understand that autistic people can have trouble seeing other people's point of view but it'd be a lie to say 40k is maligned by the majority of the tabletop community or even by the majority of /tg/, your hatred of it is your own.

>>96217393
>bring up 40k in a "my fictional sci-fi setting can solo your fictional sci-fi setting" it gets annoying.
It gets doubly amusing when you realize that in the "muh biggah numbah beats your biggah numbah" assburger debates, 40k is considered mid-tier at best.

>>96215473
>now
It was always shit

>>96215510
>media literacy

>>96215185 (OP)
>Warhammer 40k is starting to get more hate online
Good. 40k is now uncool. All the normies and grifters can fuck off

>>96216146
Gundam is more about "war is a necessary evil that hopefully humanity will someday evolve past, but today is not that day. Now kill your rabid newtype GF, it's tradition."

>>96215485
>better war games existed with better lore and hobbying
Name some.

>>96218921
Most people think 40k is trash they just don't want the deluge of 40kid retards coming after them if they say so
40k is objectively trash. stop reading and engaging in slop. read real literature

>>96218965
Hello?

>>96218878
Chuds and trannies are very much two sides of the same coin. In fact being a chud is a very effective repressing strategy for closeted trannies who don't want to admit they share a sexuality with people they find cringe.

>>96219077
>read real literature
Why?

>>96217422
Why do you actually follow and watch avatar and it's discussions? That's fucking gay.

>>96215185 (OP)
Trench Crusade trannies are taking over the most annoying fanbase spot

>>96215485
>better war games existed with better lore
There literally isn't any wargame with better lore than Warhammer

>>96215510
>media literacy
ok now use "dogwhistle" unironically

>>96219156
There isn't any. Unironically 40k has the best tabletop wargaming lore. It is why (along with big brand power) it is so popular.
>>96219159
Does this mean my fear of wasps means I want to get the ultimate cock torture by putting my dick in a hive?

>>96219159
>You hate spiders? That must mean that you want to fuck them
>I'm so smart and clever for realizing this
Kill yourself.

>>96219159
It's more that lonely autists in the west have two paths available to them: chud out or troon out. Thanks, feminism!

I never got into Warhammer and I think I'll never get into it out purely out of spite. And because always constantly bitch about it as of late.
Everything has to get a 40k crossover, they always barge in expecting you to know their lore, it feels cringe to see shit you like next to their Buzz Lightyear guys, and even worse if it's something older than their franchise but they think Warhammer originated it.

>>96215403
40k fans are like Harry Potter fans 10 years ago, but with opposite politics. Always referencing 40k in the dumbest moments. So I don't really blame him if his only interaction with 40k is seeing space nazis or someone calling their favorite politician "god-emperor" online, while never seeing it irl
>this is just like when Dumbledore bombed Syria

>>96219159
Tsar bomba tier trvke
They're the fundamentalists who get caught smoking crack with male hookers

>>96219179
There's like five TC fans and they're all former 40k fans anyway

>>96216146
People have noticed this for years. Show about war bad but also fetishizing war machines. I think that's a criticism of Miyazaki's obsession with planes.
On a related note, I got a heart attack when I was looking at gunpla and model kits videos a lot, and then got recommended videos like "THE MODELS THAT CHANGED MY VIEW OF 40K MINIS FOREVER" "A BIG ROBOT JUST FOR 20-30 BUCKS???"
Really hope those faggots don't ruin model kits even if I only make one once a year.

This sounds fabricated, as if manufacturing consent for people to be more hateful towards Games Workshop and their playerbase.

Which I support, in part.

>>96219162
Why spend the limited time of your life reading slop?

>itt: trannies getting out their two minutes of hate

>>96219370
Because it's entertaining and relaxing to read some fun stories about space marines. Simple as that. Why waste your limited time with some high literature, if it's just boring?

>itt landwhales fail to grasp that their shitty setting as a whole is unappealing, without even considering GW's bollacks

>>96219379
Agreed. Hating things is for trannies and I'm glad /tg/ doesn't do it

>>96219159
I don't think that's universal but I did know a guy who went hyper chud mode to compensate for the years he spent as a tranny after detransitioning then years later trooning out again

>>96219582
It's not universal but it's naive to deny it doesn't happen a lot, I've seen examples of that too. Not the yo-yo-ing, but at least chuds trooning out, chuds ex-trannies, or just tranny chuds.

>>96219077
>NOOOO DONT ENJOY THINGS READ TEGMARK AND NOT COOL SCIFI NOVELS
How about you go kill yourself?

>>96215185 (OP)
It was the same shit a decade ago.

>>96218946
not so, nta btw but 40K used to be good. it wasn't perfect, but don't let perfect be the eney of good
>faggot

>>96219077
>40k is objectively trash. stop reading and engaging in slop. read real literature

40k is a setting for a wargame, it's not meant to be read as literature lol.

>>96218965
Any historical, for starters. Chain of Command runs rings around 40k rules wise and even the "history for babies" WW2 narrative in popular culture is better than 40k

>>96220321
Chain of command sucks tho. I rather play battlegroup.

>>96215474
40k is normie slop, just like D&D. And for all the "lore is so good" comments, it was always fucking capeshit.

>superheroic space marine shoots bad guys

That's all the lore fucking is. You just hate the new stuff because it's

>even more superheroic primarch with a recognizable superhero name shoots bad guys

>>96215185 (OP)
Not particuarly, no. It got more exposure thanks to what I hear are some decent video games. But I think the OP is overblown. Anyone who claims that things other than books are leading any trends in scifi would get dismissed pretty quick. And reading IP-based corpo-tie-ins will get you mocked endlessly by people who are literate.

>>96220349
>chain of command sucks
Wrong

>I'd rather play battleground.

I KNEEL.

>>96220367
Battlegroup* fucking phonepost

>>96219393
>40kid thinks all literature is shitty mundane novels
40kids have never heard of walter scott
The most stupid people on this board
Keep on reading stories about le space marines and pretending it's like paradise lost you pathetic fucking manchild

>>96220365
>And reading IP-based corpo-tie-ins will get you mocked endlessly by people who are literate.

Can confirm, if any randos or literate women or coworkers ask "hey, are you reading anything these days," YOU DO NOT TELL THEM YOU ARE READING BLACK LIBRARY. NAME SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY READ BEFORE AND KNOW WELL. People are going to rightfully mock and shun you otherwise

modern 40k fans = 2020s bronies

super autismos who can't see the world through any lens but their babyish colour coded characters and force their obsession into every conversation

>>96219393
I'm happy that you read at all, anon. Good for you. Eventually, once you start seeing through the formulaic and dull beats of plot, you'll start to enjoy character development. Once you figure that out, you'll start enjoying writing for its own sake. Once you get there, you'll enjoy literature. Virginia Wolf could'a written a novel called "Hot load on the john" and it'd be 100x better than the best 40k novel. But don't worry about it. Read at all. Good job.

>>96215185 (OP)
It's secondaries and tertiaries.

As a MASSIVE influx of secondaries and tertiaries has flooded into 40k from video games and memes, so too have their terrible fucking memes and opinions about "40k beats everything!!" that fundamentally misunderstand 40k been spread around other communities like a fucking cancer.

The solution?

Kill every secondary you see. Kill Henry Cavill. DO NOT ALLOW THAT FUCKING SHOW TO BE FINISHED, IT WILL DO IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE AND MAKE THIS PROBLEM TEN THOUSAND TIMES WORSE.

KILL THEM.

>>96220454
What "problem?" That people like the thing you think is cool? Pro-tip: the more people like it, the more of Thing there will be. Stop being a hipster and enjoy your good fortune.

>>96220454
based

>>96220476
I wanted to like the new Dune movies so, so bad. I really tried. But how can you have a movie based on a book solely devoted to developing a single character, and then completely forget to include any dialogue?

>>96220458
I feel obligated to hide my fucking hobbies from people because I don't want to be associated with annoying secondaries and tertiaries. The more popular it gets, the more annoying they get, and the more I have to hide my hobby from others. I feel shame in being associated with them, and I feel rage at the fact that they are making the thing I enjoy less fun by being fucking annoying. They need to go. It needs to stop

>>96220493
Nah, new dune movies are kino

>>96220551
They're certainly pretty, and I even liked the casting. I thought they coulda done more w/ Liet. Wanna replace her with a woman? That's like THE perfect opportunity to make her into the paradoxically militant, earth-mother hippy chick that I always felt like he shoulda coulda been. And instead we just got some lady who sat there like a stone and never spoke. While everyone else posed and never spoke. It was maddening.

>>96219208
>Does this mean my fear of wasps means I want to get the ultimate cock torture by putting my dick in a hive?
Yes 100%, and you'll only free yourself from that fear and grow as a person if you face that fear head on.
Stick your dick in a wasp nest anon, do it for yourself.

>>96215474
>Chaos is the most boring faction imaginable, somehow it’s the authors’ collective favorite faction destined to always eventually win
>Absolutely no variety in faction morals; Every faction is just evil, Tau are somehow the closest thing to good guys
>Space marines look stupid, dominate the visual style of the setting so hard they get three different factions (Marines, Marines forma Chaos, Marines forma Custodes)
>No non-chaos, non-imperium humans to speak of
>No chaos xenos
>Deldar aren’t chaos for some reason, instead they have that stupid “we gotta act like Slaanesh cultists so Slaanesh can’t steal our souls” angle (???)
>Tau writers can’t decide if the Tau are secretly evil or not
>Orks are British (I hate the British)
>40k fanboys will inject 40k into every setting they encounter, act like it’s somehow a high powerlevel setting despite chaos gods being equivalent to Destiny 2 raid bosses
>Seriously, 40k fans ALWAYS bring up 40k in every setting. I’ve seen 40k/RWBY crossover shit
>40k fans are always confused why people don’t like it despite very obvious reasons why it might not be to someone else’s taste

>>96220740
Nothing of this is "nu" Anon.

>>96220752
Reread the question

>>96215185 (OP)
i hear more people complain about 40kfags than actual 40kfags being obnoxious

>>96215185 (OP)
Yeah Warhammer honestly sucks and I hate gw, but what games do you guys play? I play the middle earth battle game personally. Glad to not deal with gw slop.

>>96215185 (OP)
The one thing I find most annoying about warhammer 40k fans (I play too but not so obsessively) is that if there is any thread on Lord of the Rings they will spam up the thread with their screaming but they will make 10 threads on warhammer 40k discussing the shallow and derpy narratives

>>96220765
It's like D&D in that way, on /tg/.

>>96220228
This man's voters tried to kill him

>>96220740
>Tau are somehow the closest thing to good guys
Eldar?

>>96220782
>I play the middle earth battle game personally. Glad to not deal with gw slop.

Anon, I have bad news...

Only people more annoying than 40k superfans are 40k haters. You are always THAT guy no one wants to associate with.

>>96220906
What?

>>96220624
Rip me pecker then.
Have a nice wank in his honor, bro.

>>96215185 (OP)
Nerds as a demographic are just afflicted wit crab mentality. They don't like it when one setting is more popular than their own personal favorite because they have a scarcity mindset, so they want to prove how cool they are by whining and tearing anything down that they're not personally interested in.
40k is getting MORE hate because it's MORE popular. That's pretty much it.
Not that I care overmuch about it. It's not really so much that I want to run defense for 40k, and more that I find it cringy and pathetic for a person to be a braggart about their hobby preferences. Like I'm going to high-five some nogame and declare him king of the nerds because he's saying all the mainstream contrarian opinions he's safely having right at the exact moment it becomes normal.
They genuinely think you're supposed to be impressed that they don't like it, or something.

>>96221113
>Nerds as a demographic are just afflicted wit crab mentality. They don't like it when one setting is more popular than their own personal favorite because they have a scarcity mindset, so they want to prove how cool they are by whining and tearing anything down that they're not personally interested in.
I wish this wasn't true, more often. I don't give a rat's ass about 99% of what's published in our hobbies, but I love that people can make a business out of publishing for our hobbies. It'd be nice if we could stop eating our own, in sad little attempts to seek out validation (I say as I write angry screeds in another thread about whatever idiot topic I've decided to lampoon someone for today). We really could just be better.

>>96221261
It doesn't bother me so much when it's just lone wolves with their own personal opinions. The point where I get angry is when it's obvious bandwagon shit. It's cool to shit on 40k right now probably because some eceleb complained, and now the algorithm is telling all the sheepies that it's time to complain. So they are.
Regardless of what someone's opinion is, it should come from a person's actual mind and heart, not from conforming to fads and envious franchise comparisons.

>>96220901
I admit, every time I try to read Eldar lore my eyes glaze over, but I don’t recall them being particularly better than the Imperium. Just more snobbish, exactly as stupid and cruel.

>>96215474
Yes, the humorless faggots and megaminds behind classics like “everything has to conform to some formulation of my lazy, transgressive leftist politics” do indeed hate everything in warhammer. Every mewling gripe about its satirical content and low-grade offerings in narrative or whatever you’ll get from people otherwise convinced there’s nothing redeeming in a basically fun setting with lots of interesting concepts for campaigns and hobbying. The death of the hobby cycle and secondary ragebait comprises the rest of the criticisms. Like anything else that’s /cool/, this can only be expected when things go mainstream, however

>>96221577
40kid cope
Stop reading and pretending shit designed by soulless hacks in the 80s designed to get 14 year old to buy miniatures is "deep" or "based"
Read some actual literature for once instead of engaging in these puerile fantasies

>>96216271
War in the Pocket is fantastic not only as a individual piece of Gundam media but because if you know what you are watching it breaks down the entire driving force behind post-CCA Gundam even existing and critiquing it before it even gets off the ground.

>>96216271
The problem is the suits that don't care about Gundam and just see it as a vehicle to sell toys. Tomino Gundam is great. The later spinoffs like seed are more problematic.

>>96220740
>I’ve seen 40k/RWBY crossover shit
for me it's the pile of 40k/MPL crossover fanfics

>>96221113
Why shouldn't we have a scarcity mindset? Warhammer has like 100 games and books while all the shit it ripped off is largely confined to the dustbin.

>>96221577
What interesting concepts are there in Warhammer? There are like four alien races that the imperium fights over and over again and every story is some variation of "the bad guys got beat up until the Space Marines saved dah day xD"

>>96221798
40kids are braindead retards who think absolute slop memes like le HERESY and le EXTERMINATUS and le emperor not being who he seems is "interesting" and "based"
They're the manchildren of manchildren.

>>96220437
Why is it that snobs can't make a singular point without dripping condescension? Doesn't matter if its literature, art, food. Can't speak to anyone without looking down your nose with smug superiority. Makes any point you may have made less than worthless because it has zero authenticity.
>inb4 umad?
Yes.

>>96221798
Mostly a pile of things ripped and mashed together from 2000AD and sci fi of the time

>>96221865
>spot a grown man reading the very hungry caterpillar and watching childrens cartoons
>tell him it's a little bit weird
>WHY ARE YOU BEING SNOBBISH STOP LOOKING DOWN YOUR NOSE AT ME
Why are you manchildren like this? Your years on this life are limited and you spend your time reading slop intended for 14 year old boys and ruminating about how "deep" and "based" space marines are
>b-but classic lit is boring
If you're an absolute retard who has never actually read any literature. Not all classic lit is of the pedestrian mundane variety. There's classic literature that has more action and adventure than any 40k novel and is more enlightening too yet you won't bother to read them because its not soulless space marines shooting xenos or whatever shit you 40kids read.

>>96215185 (OP)
I stopped reading the books when they injected modern identity politics into my grimdark fantasy sci-fi setting. I never played tabletop because I hate chronically online, pedantic, sweaty nerds who take arguments about the ever-shifting rules of <insert hobby here> too fucking seriously. This stuff is supposed to be fun, and a game. The few ruin it for the many, as in all things.

>>96221927
>>tell him it's a little bit weird
rings hollow when one of the mental patients is screaming this from inside the board game subreddit of an anime porn website. complete roleplay

>>96222007
Not an argument, manchild
Why not read the three musketeers or ivanhoe or heart of darkness if you want adventure lit, why choose to read trash like 40k novels?

>>96220476
>Berserk
Had a pretty damn good adaptation back in the late 90s. Of course most zoomers can't handle watching animu from that time period.

>>96222028
No one gets into warhammer because they want "adventure lit" shut the fuck up faggot

>>96221865
You're right I guess; I guess I was being a bit condescending. I wasn't really trying to though, anon. I was just telling you about the cool things that happen once you get more into it. Sorry you felt condescended to. I honestly meant it when I said I'm glad you're reading.

>>96220321
Historicals lobbying consists of looking up time-period correct uniforms and autists getting assmad over minutiae.
You also don't get to paint anything outlandish, and generally few details if you're playing 15mm.
I like historicals but I find the hobby aspect much worse.(some of the rules as well but that's more of a self-inflicted problem same as playing current GW)
I also loathe when people pretend real history is "sooo much weirder than fantasy omigosh" and then they go on about normal boring parts of french history.

No one knows how to make cool shit so people are drawn to Space Marines. I wouldn't even trust your average fa/tg/uy to make something cool because everyone's afraid to be a "rip-off" and unoriginal.

>>96222255
>everyone's afraid to be a "rip-off" and unoriginal
I think it's becoming more common-place to realize that that's just not something to worry about. At least it seems like it to me. People seem more aware, in the last five or so years, that "original ideas" are worth jack shit, and execution is all that ever mattered.

>>96218948
>media literacy award.
Brother, Uzawa Reisa ~Superstar~ doesn't even have a regular literacy award

>>96221618
Expand on that.

>>96215419
nah, its still definitely real. pretty much everytime I look at anything related to the catholic church or just referencing it there’s some retard who comes out of the woodwork to say something like “Woah guys, this is just like 40K” which drives me crazy everytime I see it.

I blame Disney for canon-via-copyright religious worship of IPs that are only interesting as barebones settings

>>96221675
>40k/MLP
Yeah, that tracks. MLP is a series that sort of slots into crossover fic pretty easily. “Ooh, what color pony would this character be if they were a pony?” It’s an obvious question to ask. Power ranger colors, Fate servant classes, etc. That kind of thing invites fandom crossovers.
I have no idea what possesses people to make every male lead under the sun a lost primarch.

>>96215185 (OP)
>Is the fanbase getting too annoying?
Since like... 1998

>>96215216
This is Halobabies albeit.

>>96222203
>Historicals lobbying consists of looking up time-period correct uniforms and autists getting assmad over minutiae.
That's my entire contact with historicals. I got some Swedish Reiters from a friend to paint, read up on their uniforms, got advice from said friend (who was into historical reenacting), then when I brought the painted minis to the LGS to hand them in I heard: "Those collars are supposed to be blue [or whatever color they weren't, I forgot], you must repaint them."
Not from the friend, he was pretty happy with them. That was one of the historical regulars, and those were the only words I've heard from him. No "hello", no "did you paint these", no "who the fuck are you and what are you doing in my general vicinity", nothing. I still don't know why he thought I'd take advice from some literally who I'm seeing for the first time, but it and a few similar cases seen online soured me on historical gaming for a long while.

>>96222474
>That kind of thing invites fandom crossovers
You could just have said autism

>>96222540
lol you got owned.

>>96220437
>Virginia Wolf could'a written a novel called "Hot load on the john" and it'd be 100x better than the best 40k novel.

Who gives a shit? It could be 40000x better than any 40k book.. If its not about 40k, its simply not interesting.

>>96220926
Haters and superfans have a lot of things in common: 40k lives rent free in their heads, and they cant think or talk about anything else. And both think little of the other, for either owning GW product, or not owning it.

>>96221978
>when they injected modern identity politics into my grimdark fantasy sci-fi setting
Can you give 5 examples for this?

>>96222593
here you go
https://www.thriftbooks.com/a/mike-brooks/338937/

>>96221927
>comes to 4chan /tg/ to preach about literature
Dont you feel stupid anon?
> Your years on this life are limited and you spend
your time arguing here, about books?
Shouldn't you read something, trying to find enlightenment or whatever it is some random books give you? Why waste your time discussing kids books and games with manchildren? The joke is entirely on you Anon. You pretend to be some kind of intelectual, while sitting in our sandbox, where we play with toy soldiers.

>>96222614
1 book. Next?

>>96222632
Next I'm going to rape you

>>96222646
As i thought. You read somewhere that there is something inside some books, but you can't even give 5 examples for the very thing that you claim put you off from reading them, which shows clearly you have not read them in the first place.

>>96215185 (OP)
It's the fanbase, primarily, I think. There are a lot of people who aren't engaging with the material honestly, because they want to pretend that fascism and all of the terrible, never-ending death is good, actually. Which is to say, they want to feel politically validated for their niche thing that no one likes, so they're imposing their own thoughts that those ideas are good onto the fiction so they can feel accepted somewhere.

>>96220901
Eldar are absolutely not the good guys, just anti-chaos mega-autists. Any Eldar story can be summarized as
>"WE MUST STOP CHAOS AND/OR PROTECT THE CRAFTWORLD!"
>"Look! An innocent Human planet! Let's invade it and/or convince something else to invade it!"
>the Imperium succeeds in stopping the invasion that the Eldar caused
>Eldar take 50% casualties in the process, causing their dying race to die even faster
>"We did it! Eldar #1!"

>>96222698
Mike? You suck, you cuck.

>>96222129
>Because it's entertaining and relaxing to read some fun stories about space marines. Simple as that. >Why waste your limited time with some high literature, if it's just boring?
You literally stated that high literature is boring and not fun
Are you retarded?
>>96222618
Continue reading 40k shit like a manchild
If you're gonna read fantasy at least read good fantasy like conan or tolkien, if you're gonna read sci fi read good sci fi like wells or dick, why the fuck are you reading the sloppiest of the slop

>>96222698
This is the rpg board so the argument has to be based on arbitrary board game rules, for example here I can't attack the libtard author without first rolling to identify him

>>96222814
>Continue reading 40k shit like a manchild

I will, and i will also continue to read Star Wars and The Dark Eye novels and there is nothing you can do about it. In contrary, you make a fool out of yourself by coming here to tell people how great your books are, when nobody gives a fuck about it.

>>96222814
>You
Do you even realize that just because everyone in here is called Anonymous, its not the same poster?

>>96222814
>You literally stated that high literature is boring and not fun
I didn't make that post. I agree with your argument that Warhammer content is low-quality and poorly written. But that's because it is poorly handled. It isn't an inherent feature of Warhammer. You can't say that Warhammer isn't a superficially interesting setting. The problem is that that's all it is, a setting. It's inevitable one day a better ripoff will come

It's the same reason that 40k got banished to /tg/ all those years ago, it's the same memes too
>/tg/ makes memes pre-2010
>those same memes slowly migrate to reddit
>then to instagram
>then to tik tok
>then to twitter
And now nerds of other fandoms can't fucking stand 40kfags since they are making the same exact "jokes" that 40kfags were making nearly two decades ago. It's the same shit. Some star wars guys will be talking and a 40kfag will appear
>LE HERESY! KILL LE XENOS XDDDDD
The worst part? Most of these posters don't even play the game or own the model. The secondary plague has caused the most annoying parts of the 40kfandom to rapidly propagate.

>>96222837
Continue celebrating mediocrity you manchild
>>96222848
How is warhammer interesting?

>>96222945
It certainly is interesting enough for you to discuss it, isn't it?

>>96222953
Making fun of 40kids is interesting

>>96222993
If an adult goes to the kindergarden to make fun of some 3 year old kids and then brags towards them about being better.. it does not really speak for that adult, don't you think?

>have played a decent amount of 40K tabletop, especially back in 7th edition
>start playing darktide with some friends
>mention that we should get a CSM miniboss or something, because one that's armored and ranged would be a different threat to the current melee fleshy ones
>get a cavalcade of "NO BRO WE COULD NEVER TAKE ON A SPACE MARINE ARE YOU INSANE THEY'RE SO MUCH BETTER THAN US THEY'D KILL ALL OF US EFFORTLESSLY"
>despite the fact that I'm using a power sword and plasma gun at that very moment
I hate secondaries so fucking much

>>96223011
40k fans aren't children. They're manchildren, which is why i will make as much fun of them as i would to furries, bronies, etc

>>96223072
Erm haven't you watched Astartes and played Space Marine 2 bud? They. Are. Unkillable. End of story

>>96215185 (OP)
Trekkie boomers and starwars xoomers are upset their soiwars isn't popular with the new generations.

>>96217422
Avatar is fucking gay with or without warhammer, making you gay as a result.

>>96215211
>chud being used non-ironically
I feel like I know what your face looks like.

>>96220871
Very 40k of them.

>>96215430
>PONZI
I hate gw's pricing as much as anyone but
>3d printing exists
>third party models
>recasts
>pretty much all other hobbies like audiophilia, yachting, cars or whoremongering costs more

>>96216146
Showcasing the visceral appeal of weaponry and violence while declaring it immoral isn't contradictory though. You can in fact say WAR BAD and ROBOT COOL at the same time.

>>96219304
The only 40k parallel I'll accept is Russians. For whatever reason, they try to LARP as the Imperium
>Dystopian country where being miserable and depressed is the norm
>Oligarchy with strong theocratic backing
>Abhuman (Asiatic) auxiliaries
>Space Marines (Chechens/Wagner) This is a shitpost
>Reliance on decaying technology from a more prosperous time
>Use of literal purity seals
The only things that would make the parallel closer is if the warp and 40k technology were literally real.

The god emperor Trump memes and such are total cringe, though

>>96222528
Halo doesn't even have a fanbase anymore

>>96216271
War in the Pocket is extremely good, since it really rejects war as anything good or fun or heroic, although the ending's "don't worry, a new war will come soon" bit is a bit jarring honestly. I still remember the words that the one policeman says to Chris after she defeated Kämpfer, as she defended the collateral damages as sad but inevitable when defending civilians, with him replying to that how the entire thing "shouldn't have happened in the first place".

Anyways, in an alternate timeline:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSCgrdJ_qYU

>>96215185 (OP)
Last year, I started running an FFG Rogue Trader campaign for some of my IRL friends who didn't know shit about WH40k beforehand besides seeing annoying fans of it online, with me not engaging much with it after graduating high school. I tailored the campaign to their perspective, and it has honestly been such a breath of fresh air, like showing someone a TV show you love and re-experiencing it for the first time through their eyes. They were given just enough info to make characters that could feasibly exist within the world. Otherwise, everything else about the setting communicated outside of the sessions themselves has been through artwork, small descriptions, and vibes, because I promised myself I would not subject anyone to 40k """"""lore"""""" as the internet presents it. Plus, it allows me to just make shit up and show the version of 40k that exists solely in my head as fact because nobody knows enough to correct me. The campaign has been kino so far and everybody is having a great time and getting really into it.

All of this to say, I wonder how much more miserable I'd be if I were running for a bunch of 40kfags who already know everything and can't be surprised by shit. Or, even worse, who know more """"lore"""" than I do and feel the need to pipe up about it over minor details. And then, I realized that 40k fans are just annoying and that the setting is way cooler and more interesting when I'm the one writing it.

>>96223072
>>96223174
I forget what it’s from but I sometimes I think about that one story where a feral world tribesman killed a Word Bearer with a sharpened stick. I can’t remember if he punctured the eye lens or hit a corroded neck seal, but yeah

>>96224799
>that the setting is way cooler and more interesting when I'm the one writing it.
Pretty much I see it. GW gave us a canvas. It's our job to paint a masterpiece. It can be as serious or as goofy as your writing abilities can make it.

>>96219169
>Why do you actually follow and watch avatar and it's discussions?
Because it's great movies

.>>96219208
>40k
>big brand
Lol LMAO

>>96215185 (OP)
>Does anyone think Warhammer 40k is starting to get more hate online?
Warhammer fans are annoying as fuck.
This is nothing new, but people are getting collectively kind of fucking sick of it.

>>96224923
It unironically is a big brand in popularity nowadays though.

>>96224955
>It unironically is a big brand in popularity
It's nowhere near even to Dune, not saying Capeshit (despite desperate attmepts to ape it), Star Wars, Gundam (and other anime brands), DnD, or even Avatar (probably both)
It's not a big brand, at best it's king of the dwarves (miniature games).

>>96218965
>Name some.
Star Wars Legion
Battletech

>>96224978
>best it's king of the dwarves (miniature games).
Fair enough then.
But I have a feeling that cavils show whether it flies or flops will change that.

ironically the nu"fans" that GW started pandering to unironically hate the setting.
It's literally not meant for them and GW has been misled by wokesters to pander to them eg nwords, rainbow brigade, femoids. These people do not actually like or care about Warhammer.

Same thing was speedrunned in the new TC community
>go full anti-fan
>pander to rainbow pastel cultists
>the setting is crusader themed christian stuff
>all the people in the community can do is hate on it while pretending to like it

>>96224999
>But I have a feeling that cavils show whether it flies or flops will change that.
Yeah sure and Rebel Moon will be next 1billion $ IP

>>96225002
Well turns out chuds doesn't generate as profit as their corporate masters demand.

>>96225017
thats the other part. Its the chuds funding all this. The dei pandering isnt making money.

>>96225025
>The dei pandering isnt making money.
Care to explain why GW sales are increasing them? Seems like market really loves Gate Crushers marines

>>96225033
because more chuds are buying it not wokesters

>>96225033
Gw has a paypiggy problem. We’ve know this for years.

>>96225060
>those guys buying 12-20 boxes of the same release

>>96225059
Chuds buying DEI propaganda products?

>>96225072
>introduce dei crap to an established ip
>people dont care and ignore the dei shit
why do you troons not get this.

>>96225084
>>introduce dei crap to an established ip
>>people dont care and ignore the dei shit
So DEI is harmless and only increase profits. Stop crying and embrace female Custodes

>>96224955
>It unironically is a big brand in popularity nowadays though.
Let's compare
"Brand destroyed by woke" (picrelated)
Aaaand "I am big boy brand" (Hammer&Bolter series)

>>96216146
>>96216271
They're literally never going to square this circle BECAUSE WAR IS COOL. We all like looking at war, even if from a distance.
Making anti war media is like making "pizza is yucky" propaganda and filling it with characters eating delicious pizzas, but then they all get a stomachache later and agree to eat a little less next time. That's still just gonna wind up being pro-pizza.
>>96224772
>it really rejects war as anything good or fun or heroic
It still presents cyclops as being victims of war too and decently noble for fighting for a cause, even when they cause is extremely harmful to everyone in the colony. Like the cleanest takeaway is saying it shouldn't happen, but it will anyway, and it's not even wrong to fight.
So the moral of 0080 is a shrug and a "well, try to get to school around the craters kid, also buy the HG kampfer"


Frankly wargaming is inherently pro-war. It's literally war-games because it's so cool and fun.

>>96225150
>We all like looking at war, even if from a distance.
Yeah this is why footages with rotting ukrainians and russians in trenches are so popular.
Let's be hinest, we like looking at action, not war itself.

>>96225002
>ironically the nu"fans" that GW started pandering to unironically hate the setting.
More like Blackrock and Vanguard started replacing old staff with their "people", 40k caught their attention thanks to pol and now their having fun with their "demoralization" psy-op. Glowies love to "infiltrate" big companies to install their demoralization shart on people

>>96225169
>rotting ukrainians and russians in trenches are so popular
They're INCREDIBLY popular. This isn't vietnam, we're all desensitized now. All you have to do is convince them it's a righteous war without a strong fifth column arguing otherwise. There's all these 24/7 drone strike footage channels with big numbers.

I think any stance of war being inherently revolting to the populace, especially if you hyper focus in the dudes shitting their pants in a hole before they get delimbed by artillery, was absolutely not prepared for how the average facebook auntie would be instantly swayed into "heh I hope that fucking ORC suffered! we should cut the balls off his corpse and send the photos to their family!".

>>96222426
Can you elaborate?

>>96225211
>They're INCREDIBLY popular.
Nope they are not.
Check the most popular videos on YT.
>I think any stance of war being inherently revolting to the populace, especially if you hyper focus in the dudes shitting their pants in a hole before they get delimbed by artillery, was absolutely not prepared for how the average facebook auntie would be instantly swayed into "heh I hope that fucking ORC suffered! we should cut the balls off his corpse and send the photos to their family!".
Looks like it's just plain simple who is responsible for this war.
Same reason why everyone, except of american rights and their corporate masters, doesn't like having business with israel anymore.

>>96225209
>More like Blackrock and Vanguard started replacing old staff with their "people",
BlackRock and Vanguard doesn't hold most of GW stocks. They don't have enough influence, unlike Scottish Trust Fund

>>96224799
It has very little to do with 40k. You could have encountered the very same with star wars or forgotten realms.

>>96225252
>Check the most popular videos on YT.
They're not allowed on youtube, why check there? It's on twitter and facebook groups, like everything else. I can't speak for weibo or whatsapp or where ever else though.

God, it's like people forget we used to gather to watch executions or go the coliseum and see a lion tear apart some dudes on a lazy saturday. It's lack of exposure, and the exposure is coming back thick and fast.

>>96225610
>It's on twitter and facebook groups, like everything else.
Yet they aren't the largest groups, not even top-100.
>God, it's like people forget we used to gather to watch executions
You are not us zigger

>>96222346
She's retarded and self-assured, of course she has her media literacy award

>>96215185 (OP)
I hate 40k because all my friends play it and try to convince me "it's actually good if you think about it". Game sucks, lore is garbage and fanbase is autistic and cuckolded. Oh and worst of all the design of the miniatures is fucking ugly. Get taste retard.

>>96225610
You're trying to self-soothe by normalizing your wacko taste in videos. The reason you look at war videos is the same reason gooners seek out fringe porn -- you're bored and unfulfilled, and tasting something taboo awakens the tiniest flicker of feeling like you're actually alive.

>>96215185 (OP)
Reg scifi just experiencing what anyone talking about Event Horizon had to deal with for the last 30 years.

>>96215185 (OP)
40Kids have been the new bronies for several years and what is (was) good about the setting is totally hostile to normalscum and normalscum inherently destroy what is good about it, there is a reason it remained relatively niche for decades

>>96215185 (OP)
>Does anyone think Warhammer 40k is starting to get more hate online?
Yes, but it's been something that's been gradually building up over time ever since the internet became a thing.
>Is the fanbase getting too annoying?
The fanbase has always been that annoying, it's just that more people are noticing how annoying they are, now that 40k has finally gone mainstream instead of being a niche hobby. OP pic is a good illustration of shit I've been saying for about a decade now. That said, they've finally come out with a bunch of 40k related computer games I like.

>>96215342
Exactly, at the same age I couldn't take wrestling seriously any more I realised people were comparing power levels of shit where you just say you'd invented a midget that farts galaxies or something. 12 is peak age to appreciate 40k but powerlevelfaggotry should end by 13

>>96215185 (OP)
What did you expect? 40k is more popular than ever before and 40kfags were always one of the crustiest cringiest beings in existence. Now there's just more of them.

>>96215216
This is every powerscaler for their favorites

>>96221644
Pretty sure Gundam was meant to be a toy commercial from the start. It's just that it wasn't until the model kits that the toys took off.
But yeah, for me Gundam is one of those toy cartoons that transcends being a toy commercial show(unlike something like say, He-Man from the same time period) and stands on its own as a story and world, but that conflicts with the other side that need a new toy to launch out every five years

>>96226621
power leveling didn't even exist in classic 40k. This is something the dbz fags and then marvel fags brought to the setting.
For example Primarchs were just myths.

>>96215485
>so much (you mean so many reatrd) other better war games existed with better lore and hobbying
No, no there absolutely did not, or you could have named even one of them. No matter what other games had good points about them, absolutely nothing has ever come close to the miniatures, art, setting and comprehensive lore of warhammer or 40k, not even slightly close

>>96220321
History isn't lore you fucking imbecile
No one ever said GW had the best rules (even although warhammer has underpinned most historical rules for decades)
(you) said other games and better lore and hobbying and you failed to name one.
all other games with models are either direct proxies for 40k or have models that look like blobs and that has always been the case.

>>96220740
All factions in 40k are purely British you stupid dipshit, the orks are literally biker nazis

>>96215559
40k is not satire
Rogue trader was satire, but it's not 40k. It's barely a setting, it's a rough draft.
Yes, 40k has *some* satirical elements but it doesn't make the whole thing satire that average plebian is too media illiterate to understand

>>96223072
Nevermind the fact that we regularly kill plague beasts, plague ogryns, and chaos spawn, all of which are tougher than the average CSM

>>96226848
not even RT was satire, it parodied things but it didnt satirise anything
actually the entire fucking point of 40k was not to be satirical to distance itself from 2000ad a completely different brand which was satirical.

>>96222593
NTA but
>that time they tried to make orks gender nonbinary
>tranny eldar
>tranny Imperium pilots
>space wolves getting sassed about how they should let females into their ranks
>femstodes

adding minorities to Space Wolves is genuinely infuriating
Funny they haven't done it to BA yet.

>>96222698
All of that faggots books, all of Gav Thorpe's books, all of Faggot McNeil's books, all of ADB's books. That's a lot more than 5 you snivelling faggot

>>96226888
Examples you little faggot.

>>96225150
>even if from a distance.
I would say specifically because we view it from a distance, watching a war and being in a war are two very different things. A lot of people who enjoy the former would not enjoy the latter.

>>96219328
There's a Gundam wargame now...

The absolute worst part of 40kids is that so many of them are completely unaware that wargaming is a larger hobby than just warhammer. I can't recall how many times I've had exchanges to the spirit of:
>Oh you play miniature games? I'm a massive 40k fan! [Insert five minute diatribe about their favorite marines.]
>Haha, yeah, but what faction do you play?
>I don't really like 40k, but I've been working on some WWI airplanes.
Cue the empty state as they try to comprehend a wargame that's not 40k.

>>96215389
I wish I had your life where you randomly overhear people talking about 40k, where I live you'd have to drive a hundred miles before you find someone else who's heard of it.

>>96215185 (OP)
Because fags take it as more than just a backdrop for a tabletop wargame. The setting is there to support the game not the other way around but retards with either shitfling it as the greatest sci fi setting to grace mankind or act retarded and shit on 40k for being too simple like it isnt literally made to set up the tabletop game like an RTS story mode.

>>96218961
>Kill your rabid new type gf
*Gasp* No! It took me forever to get a gf and she loves me for me! I'm sure I can fix her

>>96220423
Most women who "read" are reading hp/twilight/wordpad smut

Really you should tell them you read black library. It might get you a cute psuedo-nerd normie gf

>>96215474
Overrated slop with annoying faggots shilling it or shitting up discussions.

>>96233332
This but for CYOAs I don't like

>>96226831
>or have models that look like blobs
look who is talking about blobs

>>96215185 (OP)
This is a good thing. 40k needs to be gatekept hard and the best way to do that is to make it unappealing.

>>96222540
I keep hearing these anecdotes but most historical wargamers are not button counters (you try dressing on campaign the same as on parade) and have the good sense to play what they like for fun, not as their sole way of engaging with history (because attempting to do so on a pingpong table with some plastic Spartans is pretty abstract).

My experience is that the more popular games with a big competitive scene are usually where the smelly autists reside. Usually the intellectual curiosity that hwg calls for enrages and gatekeeps most tabletop players and long may it do so.

>>96224512
Why? consuming thousands of innocent souls daily is very statesmanlike, apparently

>>96226860
Orks are not sexually dimorphic, they certainly aren't male.

As for whether other aliens can or do change sex that is probably variable.

I would be surprised at the Imperium placing much emphasis on personal identity, free sexual expression... maybe on worlds away from "the front."

>>96233594
orks are male you idiot

>>96229545
40k should have stuck to tabletop and video games. The HH novels are an abomination and should not be taken seriously or as canon.

>>96233602
I can't really see how they are. They seem unsexed in terms of their biology, whatever macho behaviour they engage in, much like 40k fans.

>>96233627
thats because you are fucked in the head.

>>96233670
Can you explain how orks are male?

>>96233706
they are male gender obviously masculine and not feminine

>>96233716
So maleness to you is just a Seton behaviours? Bit woke m8

I like beating niggers with mallets

>>96233627
The argument could be made that they are "Boyz" i.e. males. But its long established that they are fungi, so their actual gender is irrelevant anyway.

>>96233769
They don't have any seconary sex characteristics or genitals.

>>96233784
Neither does a fucking tree or a slug.

>>96233469
That model is probably older than some of the posters in this thread.

>>96233895
Slugs have sex with each other and have both reproductive systems. Fungi are closer to plants I guess.

>>96227360
Still waiting for it to drop. Hopefully I could reel in some normalfags with it. Battletech is too much paperwork and Heavy Gear is expensive and niche so no one even knows what the fuck I'm talking about.

>>96215185 (OP)
Yes because they suck all the fun out of a very campy, bombastic and silly setting to make it 'serious' and boring.

>>96233953
That model was released in 2021.
4 years ago.
Only posters that are younger than this model are bots made in last week.

>>96215185 (OP)
>Is the fanbase getting too annoying?
Always were

>>96215510
>original meaning
Originally it was parody

>>96215185 (OP)
>that Warhammer 40K vs Star Wars crossover series on YouTube
>what is practically edgy WH40K fanfic where Warhammer OC invade SW galaxy and curb stomp canon characters
>40K act like it is some deep or crossover and how mature their setting compared to SW
>while it have things like Space Marines eating aliens from conquered planet as celebration
>also sperg out every time some Force sensitive manage to hurt SM

>>96226753
No, gundam was meant to be a cartoon first. There was a toy line that released a bit after the original show aired but it was a small and restricted operation. You can even see this in the designs, with all the MSes that look more like men wearing clothes rather than robots. This was to make them easier to draw by kids, supposedly.

>>96215185 (OP)
yep. outside 4chan, i falseflag all the time and i think i've convinced at least a couple dozen people that warhammer is the shittiest most insufferable cringefest for retards ever

itt: loads of gen z poltards acting contrarian because 40k is popular while having zero understand of what made it good

>>96221644
>Tomino Gundam is great
Tomino Gundam have cartoonishly evil Zeon who killed half of humanity and still act like its grey conflict

>>96234224
Proof that it was parody or satire? People keep saying it is but I’m not too sure.

>>96234317
It used to have more small joke pop culture references, like this or the Lizardman names, Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka = Margaret Thatcher, etc. Calling it a parody or satire isn't really right, but it used to be more tongue in cheek and definitely leant into the settings (both Fantasy and later Rogue Trader/40K) being over the top and a bit silly.