BattleTech General /btg/ - /tg/ (#96217055) [Archived: 22 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:00:26 AM No.96217055
this kills the king crab
this kills the king crab
md5: 3fae29784f950feb995bf5b60e956081๐Ÿ”
The /btg/ is dead! Long live the /btg/!

King Crab Edition

Last Thread: >>96201826

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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:01:57 AM No.96217063
>>96217055 (OP)
Thread question: should we have thread questions in the OP?
Replies: >>96217145
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:14:26 AM No.96217145
>>96217063
I like the thread questions
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:21:14 AM No.96217180
FB_IMG_1753905518744
FB_IMG_1753905518744
md5: 6d400d6abf6069378daac096f65b6a28๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96217205
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:22:37 AM No.96217188
IMG_9832
IMG_9832
md5: b163d0c2239b479c2bfe610795ee37b2๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96217205 >>96217309 >>96217349
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:25:36 AM No.96217205
>>96217180
>>96217188
very honorabru
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:27:11 AM No.96217213
IMG_0686
IMG_0686
md5: 784102b365b18432d29503f7a85a936d๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96217232
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:30:22 AM No.96217228
Antlion
Antlion
md5: da29cb0590a18fcc2f66104d312f8c81๐Ÿ”
>try to get brother into Battletech
>he only likes bird mechs and quads
>his favorite mech is pic related
What do?
Replies: >>96217234 >>96217247 >>96217254 >>96217362 >>96232225
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:31:21 AM No.96217232
image0-2
image0-2
md5: fbb4c12306a3f7a45030fc42464f4f1d๐Ÿ”
>>96217213
kingcrab senpai~ your auto cannon is so big~
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:31:51 AM No.96217234
>>96217228
let him play w those mechs heโ€™ll develop better taste over time
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:33:41 AM No.96217247
>>96217228
Bird Mechs are great, though. A lot of quads are too.

The Antlion is...unfortuante.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:35:14 AM No.96217254
>>96217228
Learn how mech mortars work. Weep at how much better they could be with just a few minor tweaks. Always put a gunnery 1 or 0 pilot in there. Miss most of your mortars anyway since they're always indirect fire even with a clear line of sight.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:36:49 AM No.96217264
I love the king crab.
I love every variant of the king crab.
I played it on table, i played it in mwo, i played it in hbs's game, i have a 300% model i printed, I'm going to get a tattoo.

I love the king crab.
Replies: >>96217268 >>96217316
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:37:30 AM No.96217267
My top 5 mechs are Shadow Hawk IIC, Black Knight, Crab, Horned Owl and Crusader. How retarded am I
Replies: >>96217277 >>96217287 >>96217291 >>96217590
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:37:38 AM No.96217268
>>96217264
I love the King Crab but always have bad luck with it on the table
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:38:07 AM No.96217271
>>96217173
>clanners hate melee
>but the biggest and meatiest claws ever on a mech
Interesting
Replies: >>96217300
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:39:52 AM No.96217277
>>96217267
You're 3/5 retard and I'll leave it as an exercise for the viewer to figure out which ones.
Replies: >>96217297
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:41:36 AM No.96217287
>>96217267
Based regard
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:42:18 AM No.96217291
>>96217267
>Shad IIC
No shoulder gun, it is a disgrace to the name of Shad.
>Black Knight and Crab
Good workhorse mechs. These are good choices.
>Horned Owl
Clan pulse boat jumper, a meta choice. A boring choice.
>Crud
A very flawed mech, but that gives it character. A good choice.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:43:44 AM No.96217297
>>96217277
>3/5
Can we compromise
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:43:59 AM No.96217299
>>96217254
I need an iMortar so badly. At the very least the Antlion MMs are clantech so they only weigh a little more than an SRM/6 rather than as much as an LRM/15.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:44:02 AM No.96217300
>>96217271
Jade Falcon decided that melee is honorable when they do it because... it just is, okay!?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:44:52 AM No.96217309
>>96217188
>That Dragon
>supposed to be DRG-10K
Missiles are not on LT...?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:46:05 AM No.96217316
SmartSelect_20250730_194547_Opera
SmartSelect_20250730_194547_Opera
md5: 580cc7b7258b3f3029e1bca9dbb800e1๐Ÿ”
>>96217264
Long live KGC-007
Replies: >>96217435
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:48:50 AM No.96217331
>>96217291
Black Knight and King Crab are the picks of secondaries and newfags
Replies: >>96217347 >>96217364
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:51:13 AM No.96217347
>>96217331
Thatโ€™s my list and Iโ€™m like a month into it so that tracks. But I said Crab not king crab.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:51:46 AM No.96217349
>>96217188
>Rokurokubi
>Yokai characterized by its long neck it can stretch out
>has absolutely no neck whatsoever
>Just a dumbfuck upside down sword
Replies: >>96217438 >>96218698
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:53:18 AM No.96217362
>>96217228
my roommate thinks BT mechs look awful
>show him literally any mech. Quad, bipedal, bug, light, assault, Clan, IS, etc
>"wow, nice wardog, bro."
Also says that the designs are objectively awful and ugly and "peak western walking boxes", and says that the setting is fundamentally stupid if he's expected to believe that these things can run and jump and punch and kick because "they dont look like they could in real life."
Replies: >>96217374 >>96217389 >>96217401 >>96217615 >>96219164 >>96223724 >>96232225
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:53:42 AM No.96217364
>>96217331
The Black Knight is good for newfags and veterans alike because it teaches how do deal with heat, and a veteran can enjoy the thrill of riding that heat curve.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:56:10 AM No.96217374
>>96217362
Now western mech fans know how eastern mech enjoyers feel
Replies: >>96217421 >>96223724
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 4:59:05 AM No.96217389
>>96217362
So what are you asking for? Like places to bury the body or what?
Replies: >>96217421
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:00:45 AM No.96217401
>>96217362
Well I for one think it's great that you volunteered to be a live-in caretaker for the mentally disabled.
But have you ever wondered what would happen if you didn't secure his helmet one morning and just... let nature take its course?
Replies: >>96217421
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:05:06 AM No.96217421
>>96217374
thing is he doesnt like mecha all that much anyways.
His favorite mecha shows, and the best two in his self-admitted opinion, are Code GEASS and Eureka 7.
He enjoyed Gundam: Witch of Mercury, and that inspired him to try and marathon the entire gundam franchise, but he dropped it after finishing 0078 and Zeta, two episodes into ZZ. He then declared the franchise dog shit.

>>96217389
Ill simply roll him into the river

>>96217401
I could always just piss in his sleep apnea machine. Doesnt use it half the time, anyways.
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some other anon
7/31/2025, 5:06:13 AM No.96217425
>>96217254
>Weep at how much better they could be with just a few minor tweaks

Every weapon introduced since the Field Manuals is bad on purpose.
some other anon
7/31/2025, 5:07:38 AM No.96217435
>>96217316
>king crab
>no ac/20

wut
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:07:49 AM No.96217438
>>96217349
What did you expect from a bunch of larping weebs?
Replies: >>96217498
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:08:53 AM No.96217442
>>96217421
>Code GEASS and Eureka 7.

>Franchises where the mechs don't actually use their legs for walking or running most of the time.
>Just surfing and floating in the sky
Fucking disgusting.

>Declared UC dog shit
I'm conflicted on whether to drown him in a puddle or get his opinion on Neon Genesis Evangelion.
Replies: >>96217457 >>96219932
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:10:22 AM No.96217448
macross884
macross884
md5: 88d9ee9a793edd557380db36088f27ac๐Ÿ”
>>96217421
>Eureka 7
fug I read that as Macross 7 because I happened to be listening to Planet Dance.
Replies: >>96217457
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:11:31 AM No.96217457
>>96217442
thinks NGE is pretentious and doesnt make sense, likes the robot design.

>>96217448
Sadly, he refuses to watch Macross. He doesnt remember love...
Replies: >>96217463
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:12:53 AM No.96217463
>>96217457
>the robot design.
What robots?! Evangelion is a fucking kaiju anime, not a mecha anime.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:13:10 AM No.96217465
On cooling vests vs. cooling suits for MechWarriors, what about in the Periphery? While post-Jihad nation-states like the Filtvelt Coalition and the Timbuktu Collective may have since they were created from secessionist movements from the Federated Suns and the Lyran Commonwealth respectively, what about the Taurian Concordat (this also includes the Calderon Protectorate), the Magistracy of Canopus, the Marian Hegemony, and the Outworlds Alliance? Would those Periphery powers have gotten colling suits for their respective MechWarriors?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:17:05 AM No.96217485
>>96217465
The Taurians and Canopians probably would, everyone else is iffy. They're "available" but that doesn't mean the small guys with very limited resources want to spin up a line for them. On the other hand, infantry scale anything is easier to work with than vehicle scale.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:17:45 AM No.96217488
>>96217465
Buddy, actual Knights of the Republic of the Sphere still used the old gear in the 3130's because of its ruggedness. The old jacket/bootshorts/bucket/boots remains the most popular dress even into ilClan. Some warriors may prefer the full cooling suits or the holographic neural headbands, but average McFuck is still rocking the 3rd War special, both because he can afford it and because it lasts.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:20:09 AM No.96217498
>>96217438
A non-retarded sword. I seriously want to gp back in time, find whatever dipshit Hollywood fuckhead decided to first hold a sword backwards, and prevent him from ever doing movies. Because this terminally myopic idea has fucking infested popular culture, and anyone who's ever even fought sticks with their siblings as kids can easily recognize how impractical, stupid, and useless the reverse sword grip is. But because the goddamn baboons making these decisions have never touched a sword in their lives, they think it looks cool and morons who don't have the first clue about sword fighting lap it up.
Replies: >>96217508 >>96219127
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:21:38 AM No.96217507
GogglerOrnithopterInFlight-1040x424
GogglerOrnithopterInFlight-1040x424
md5: e92f24182c43ec830e8368a9f60f24e5๐Ÿ”
>>96217055 (OP)
You know, most conventional aircraft really should be Ornithopters. It makes no sense to have this amazing myomer technology which makes animalistic vehicle designs more efficient than robotic vehicle designs, and NOT use it to make insectoid-inspired planes.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:22:06 AM No.96217508
>>96217498
Because of the reduced reach of reverse grip, which makes it shitty in real life, they can have safer and closer combat in film. That was the reason. Not that I disagree with you. There are many people I would see thrown into a coliseum match with a hungry bear.
Replies: >>96217577
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:25:14 AM No.96217519
>>96217507
Myomer only really makes sense with fusion for the power it takes. Since that's the bottleneck for all advanced tech, probably should not be in the conventional aircraft realm.

>Muh Indy's and power amps
Yeah, sure, got me there. Go ahead.
Replies: >>96217530
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:26:52 AM No.96217530
>>96217519
Nah, myomer is very clearly just more efficient in general, hence why even civilians use it with ICE engines mechs. Hell, Myomer is literally used for prosthetic limbs. It does not need constant infinite power, it's incredibly power efficient.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:30:08 AM No.96217541
>>96217530
>Generates as much heat as a 1.5 Gigawatt laser every 10 seconds its used
>Efficient

I will admit it's inconsistent, like rock bands using myomer strings and current to quick tune their electric guitars.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:32:24 AM No.96217554
acfe9a562a065c1431f7adc23d4010c3
acfe9a562a065c1431f7adc23d4010c3
md5: 33d27ac8a73ff155fcc781744672c857๐Ÿ”
>>96217541
The gigawatt power is probably coming more from the ECM of the mechs rather than the actual myomer itself.

On a related note, I find it humorous Battletech went through all this effort to distinguish their mechs from other settings by making them more animalistic and 'fleshlike' than other mech settings...only to ditch the actual giants from the setting they initially came from.
Replies: >>96217562 >>96217746 >>96217784
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:34:08 AM No.96217562
Crusher Locust 1
Crusher Locust 1
md5: 3738960de55fe93786d62eddcb5b7180๐Ÿ”
>>96217554
The setting for Battletech is basically Dougram>Crushe Joe>Macross even if there are more Macross designs by number and commonality.
Replies: >>96217585 >>96217688
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:38:28 AM No.96217577
>>96217508
I want to see them thrown onto the Collosseum where they have to fight with their stupid reverse sword grip against people fighting normally.
Replies: >>96217607
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:40:27 AM No.96217585
>>96217562
As it should be. Fang Of The Sun is god tier.
Replies: >>96217632
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:42:01 AM No.96217590
>>96217267
You seem very taken with the โ€œdude in a robot suitโ€ style of mech, with Crab thrown in for variety.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:44:41 AM No.96217607
>>96217577
Bro it's a game about giant robots punching each other, proper swordplay isn't the goal lmao
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:45:35 AM No.96217615
1685943787643130
1685943787643130
md5: 19b75e6e5e63a8cc48d0a15bfd31ea97๐Ÿ”
>>96217362
To be fair when was the last time BattleTech represented mechs actually showing any finesse outside of novels instead of just depicting walking tanks?
Replies: >>96217700 >>96217705 >>96223724
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:47:27 AM No.96217632
>>96217585
It still swells the pride in my chest that it was an /m/ community project to sub it back in the day. God, 4chan has done some good in the world.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:56:56 AM No.96217688
>>96217562
I'd argue the clans are inspired by the Zentradi. Both are biologically effectively human, but completely alien in culture. Both had a divide between crusaders (Kamjin) and wardens (Britai). And both, despite numerous battles, are ultimately defeated slowly by the culture of their enemy.
Replies: >>96217701 >>96217720
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:59:33 AM No.96217700
>>96217615
Mechwarrior is just an AU where everyone has a terrible pilot score.
Replies: >>96217731
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:00:38 AM No.96217701
1752876958876526
1752876958876526
md5: 123ce1345a5e97844ef7e02065e488fe๐Ÿ”
>>96217688
Which makes it a shame Battletech didn't have the balls to make the clans giants.
Replies: >>96217732
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:01:20 AM No.96217705
burn and hold
burn and hold
md5: 9a46b4769f821e1b0c7c2284f250d2c7๐Ÿ”
>>96217615
Wow someone saved one of my old drawings. Have an old butte hold
Replies: >>96217886
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:05:14 AM No.96217720
>>96217688
I would counter with FASA doing Star Trek prior and making most of the alien honor stuff before it made it into the shows or movies.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:07:17 AM No.96217731
>>96217700
They fall down a lot less than your average clanner on TT.
Replies: >>96217883
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:07:27 AM No.96217732
>>96217701
There is nothing stopping you from saying omnipods are jewelry type accessories for giant busty women
Replies: >>96217746 >>96217787
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:10:59 AM No.96217746
1501179170574
1501179170574
md5: 012e58d2aa5f278801afe20425807f57๐Ÿ”
>>96217530
Not more efficient, easier to WORK with.
Just look at how "easy" hydraulics are to service.

>>96217554
>coming more from the ECM of the mechs
No.

>>96217732
>There is nothing stopping you from saying omnipods are jewelry type accessories for giant busty women
That seems rather impractical...
Replies: >>96217766 >>96224484
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:14:38 AM No.96217766
9ea34a779b7e992f1c8f8059ff4c8eac840a98ear1-850-1202v2_hq
>>96217746
>impractical...
Right, it'd be better if they wore hardpoints like a kind of gundress.
Replies: >>96217789 >>96217815
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:20:42 AM No.96217784
>>96217554
>On a related note, I find it humorous Battletech went through all this effort to distinguish their mechs from other settings by making them more animalistic and 'fleshlike' than other mech settings...only to ditch the actual giants from the setting they initially came from.

I think it took Jordan Weisman a couple years to realize that people would want detailed, coherent lore. Remember that originally it was just a set of rules intended to help sell licensed minis.

On the other hand, by the time he started BT, he'd already done some writing for Traveler and a Star Trek RPG, so he should have known better. Maybe he didn't expect wargamers to want the same level of detail as RPG players?
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:21:09 AM No.96217787
e9e1aea3b66ab68496a616afc0d1bcbd6d5cf2c2
e9e1aea3b66ab68496a616afc0d1bcbd6d5cf2c2
md5: 78fe199cd51fb780cb57dee15a0dbcb0๐Ÿ”
>>96217732
Where's the DazzleTech sourcebook that adds accessories and jewelry with appropriate rules?
Replies: >>96217857
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:21:43 AM No.96217789
>>96217766
What is it about spergs that makes them need to post their fetish material constantly?
Replies: >>96218883
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:29:02 AM No.96217815
Iowa's Big Stick
Iowa's Big Stick
md5: 442d9e6d85e577f5debc20deaa2958ea๐Ÿ”
>>96217766
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:40:19 AM No.96217857
>>96217787
First we need rules for the Beemer jammies.
Then Crael's cosmetic spike missile covers.
Then canonize the chain drape from ArcadeOps.
Then the Ostpimp hat.
Then we can worry about mech jewelry.
Replies: >>96217858 >>96217907
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:41:23 AM No.96217858
ht128-camo
ht128-camo
md5: 7b71d7a598bf06e2690ecb2b6773190d๐Ÿ”
>>96217857
Replies: >>96217907
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:47:03 AM No.96217883
>>96217731
I dont even know if you can be knocked down in MW5. 3 and 4 you basically had to target their knees.
Replies: >>96218037
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:48:06 AM No.96217886
Gv80_RgW4AAPRrT
Gv80_RgW4AAPRrT
md5: dec9801ea5a6cff053b1c5fcc5a96554๐Ÿ”
>>96217705
draw a Marauder with a thicc ass
Replies: >>96219385
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:53:03 AM No.96217907
Volleygun
Volleygun
md5: 2a60378bdc9a124b4ecdfa20cd287f0d๐Ÿ”
>>96217857
>>96217858
Beemer Jammies lower heat signature and offer a bonus against active probes during hidden unit scenarios

Crael's spikes are just an RL10

Chain drape increases to hit for cluster weapons

Ostpimp Hat is functionally a command console if the rest of your unit are female pilots
Replies: >>96217932
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:56:32 AM No.96217932
>>96217907
Crael's spikes hide SRMs

The chaindrape already has a pretty extensive amount of rules and can be worn as an apron, poncho, or cape and each configuration does something different.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:19:24 AM No.96218037
>>96217883
You can't fall over in MW5, just as you can't fall over in modern MWO. I remember it being quite rare in the games before that.
Replies: >>96218229 >>96218265
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:56:17 AM No.96218229
>>96218037
>just as you can't fall over in modern MWO
Emphasis on Modern...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K2QF70H2hc
Replies: >>96218265 >>96218884
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:58:16 AM No.96218237
1722605607219571
1722605607219571
md5: ac27c8bb212f056c1cf3cc683bc17a49๐Ÿ”
>>96217055 (OP)
>In fairness to the Clans, it seems like disproportionately many white people got off of Earth (which makes sense, poor people can't afford to migrate to the stars).
>Who's to say that the SLDF wasn't also disproportionately white? Especially because I wouldn't be surprised if Capellans and Dracs were less likely to join up. And the Second Exodus was pretty small, there could have been a founder effect amplifying the discrepancy even more ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ
Well hold on, that doesn't really track when you put it that way.
If all the rich people that left earth were white, then the people who stayed behind in the Hegemony weren't. If anything, that would mean the SLDF and TH house troops were primarily brown.
Furthermore, Muslims were the last significant population to notably stay on Earth because they weren't sure how prayers would work out in space. They eventually figured it out, but by then they'd have been a significantly major chunk of Terra's population for generations. Who's to say the SLDF weren't primarily browns and Muslims?
How do we know notables like Kerensky weren't Muslim?
After all if all the Whites Christians, Jews, etc left Earth first, they can't also be the majority on Earth, it's one or the other.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:03:27 AM No.96218265
>>96218037
>>96218229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlzSgbfLyZg
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:14:44 AM No.96218318
IMG_20250731_001208
IMG_20250731_001208
md5: ae2276432231f046894d523adfac2cfa๐Ÿ”
Got the basecoat done on the Fortress.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:28:46 AM No.96218371
>>96218237
>If all the rich people that left earth were white, then the people who stayed behind in the Hegemony weren't. If anything, that would mean the SLDF and TH house troops were primarily brown.

That doesn't follow. Terra was the most highly populated planet in the Hegemony (12billion in 2766), but lots of worlds had populations almost as high. New Earth had a population over 4 billion in 2766, Thorin had over 2 billion in 3067 (and probably higher back in the day), Dieron 2.4 billion in 2766, Caph 3 billion, Keid 5.3 billion, etc. And the Hegemony had about 100 worlds. Even given that some of them were tiny like Sirius, we know that the Hegemony worlds were in general the most highly developed, so Terra was probably something like 12/200 โ‰ˆ 6% of the Hegemony.

And yes, those numbers are reasonable. People on the newly colonized planets probably had insanely high population growth rates. The average fertility rate in the US in 1800 was almost 4 per woman taking into high infant mortality! The US consistently hit 3% annual growth from natural growth (i.e. not counting immigration) through the 1870s. Similar numbers exist in other "settler colonies". When well-off people expand into a vacuum, they expand fucking fast. For comparison, the rate in the UK was around 1.2-1.5% annual growth. It wouldn't take very long to hit huge populations, especially if people are having 6 or 7 kids without infant mortality.

On top of that, the Hegemony did not provide all of the SLDF.

>How do we know notables like Kerensky weren't Muslim?
Srsly?

If nothing else, it would have been noted. Also blah blah 700 years in the future blah blah, not super a lot of ethnic Russian Muslims.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:29:47 AM No.96218373
>>96218318
Nice.

Drac, or just like red?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:31:01 AM No.96218381
>>96218373
see >>96210669
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:31:17 AM No.96218384
>>96218318
10/10 Mien fuhrer
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:38:01 AM No.96218403
>>96218381
IC
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:38:19 AM No.96218404
On the Periphery's relationship with the 1st Star League after the Reunification War, I must ask: were Periphery natives allowed to enlist in the 1st SLDF? I can imagine there would have been discrimination against any SLDF troops that hailed from Periphery Territorial States, especially in the wake of the New Vandenburg Uprising and the Amaris Coup?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:49:06 AM No.96218438
sldf recruitment
sldf recruitment
md5: 4bf6c606e50422dd366a252e64f2cf08๐Ÿ”
>>96218404
Looks like yes.

Officially there was an attitude that any soldier of the SLDF was a member of the SLDF and no specific nation aside from the Hegemony, though it's very possible that there was discrimination.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 8:57:35 AM No.96218470
>>96218438
Seems like a contradiction. Weren't the periphery states specifically not member states?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:06:59 AM No.96218507
>>96218470
They were "territorial states", but I guess technically still members.

Anyway, that's from FM:SLDF. I'm gonna check the Star League book now.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:09:00 AM No.96218513
sldf recruitment og
sldf recruitment og
md5: 3fa06af836dfd13e894caaf001e16b50๐Ÿ”
>>96218507
Well, if it's inconsistent, it's old and inconsistent.
Replies: >>96218887
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:11:58 AM No.96218520
>>96218470

As I imagine, Periphery Territorial States were each represented by an administrator but didn't get voting rights in the High Council and while Council Directive 41 changed that, the Periphery States were exploited more than ever after that, allowing Stefan Amaris to back them into launching the New Vandenburg Uprising.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:03:03 AM No.96218698
>>96217349
They originally called it "Kappa", I'm sure.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:04:38 AM No.96218702
>>96218470
They were provisional states at first, but the star league at least pretended they were real states. That's why they got mech factories for star league classics like the Canopian Shadow Hawk and bug lines. They're officially "in" even if they're only being drip fed basic stuff and held hostage economically by particularly bad supply side mismatches. Most of the "world that only makes left handed gloves" stuff was in the periphery.
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some other anon
7/31/2025, 10:07:46 AM No.96218713
>>96218702
Wasn't the Periphery also under crippling taxes to pay for their own occupation? Or did that end at some point?
Replies: >>96218916
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:18:29 AM No.96218741
>>96218371
>blah blah, not super a lot of ethnic Russian Muslims.
It's more like a Mormon writer might have heard of Beta Jews, but they were unlikely to know more about Russia than them being our enemy.
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some other anon
7/31/2025, 10:39:02 AM No.96218810
>>96218741
Are you trying to deny that there are almost no ethnic Russian Muslims?
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some other anon
7/31/2025, 10:40:03 AM No.96218814
>>96218741
Also "Beta Israel", not "Beta Jews". They actually split off before the name became "Jews".

It's fun when people show their own ignorance while criticizing that of others.
Replies: >>96218904
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:04:57 AM No.96218883
CxiwuQo
CxiwuQo
md5: 6f64f4d33512902d023ac99fa1099da2๐Ÿ”
>>96217789
It's called having a healthy sex life. Sorry that you've taken the puritan pill and will never enjoy physical love again. Hopefully your undeserved sense of superiority makes up for it.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:05:10 AM No.96218884
>>96218229
I was in the match where we bullied the dev with our max engine, max armour dragons and rammed their whole team to death, styling on the faggots so hard they fucking turned physics off. sore loser cheating faggots.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:06:50 AM No.96218887
>>96218513
That's not from a canon source.
Replies: >>96218896
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:10:50 AM No.96218896
>>96218887
>not bitching that CFL just copied and pasted the old into the new

Come on man, improve your shit posting game
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:12:35 AM No.96218904
>>96218814
>Also "Beta Israel", not "Beta Jews".
Wow, I just reported you for supporting Hamas. There is only one home land of the Jews.
Replies: >>96218957
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:13:59 AM No.96218907
>>96218810
>boo hoo hoo chechens are actually totally different than us pure Rus

Shut up Ivan, you are all snow monkeys to me
Replies: >>96218949
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:17:25 AM No.96218916
>>96218713
>Wasn't the Periphery also under crippling taxes to pay for their own occupation?

That's because of the Taxation Edict of 2763, which was the spark needed to detonate the Periphery Powder Keg that led to the New Vandenburg Uprising.
some other anon
7/31/2025, 11:28:33 AM No.96218949
>>96218907
What are you on about? Chechens don't speak Russian and are only slightly related to Russians genetically. The only thing they have in common with Russians is that Russia conquered them 200 years ago.
some other anon
7/31/2025, 11:31:24 AM No.96218957
>>96218904
Jews are a subset of the Children of Israel.

Granted, a subset currently comprising more than 99% of them, but there are Children of Israel who are not Jewish.

As Children of Israel, the Land of Israel is the land of the Jews, but it's also the land of the Samaritans. And the Beta Israel have all converted to mainstream Judaism, but the name still doesn't include the word "Jew".

Learn before you smugly accuse other of ignorance.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:14:26 PM No.96219051
If clans value combat skill so highly and don't care about comfort wouldn't it have made more sense for most clan mechs to use small cockpits?
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:21:42 PM No.96219069
>>96219051
A: they hadn't thought of the small cockpit when they were writing TRO:3050
B: the clans have no shortage of weight saving innovations and almost none of them are detrimental to combat effectiveness.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:38:24 PM No.96219115
>>96219069
They do however have a culture of intentionally hampering their combat effectiveness on a personal, tactical and strategic level through bidding, so handicapping themselves both as individuals and as fighting forces is not even an uncommon thing among the clans.
It also seems to me that clan culture would easily create a toxic environment of warriors pretending they're personally above the detrimental affects of small cockpits, with widespread ridicule of anyone voicing discomfort or a hampering of their abilities as weak and incompetent.
Just a thought.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:40:27 PM No.96219127
>>96217498
It's way older than hollywood and it's cool. If you don't like Shinobi, I can only assume you have no foreskin. Probably some ninja stole it and that's why you're so salty.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:49:21 PM No.96219164
>>96217362
>"peak western walking boxes"
I mean yeah, half the fans will give you the "heh, this isn't like gundam or macross, these are REAL mechs, and they're so slow and limited they can barely do anything but walk and shoot!" pitch. Half the fanbase is completely convinced that they're literally just gun turrets shaped like people for some reason, and this is the actual true appeal of all mecha and everyone else is just getting it wrong.

Then you get the flipside where people look at the games and notice their basic gimpy slow walking animations still clip their legs inside themselves and they just call it stupid western mudcore crap.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:51:07 PM No.96219172
>>96219115
Bidding is always tailored to the situation and never permanent. Once your mech has a cockpit that is so small it hampers your piloting you can't change that, whereas you can say you won't use your left arm guns as a flex but if it turns out your enemy has a bunch of friends when they said they were alone you can just use all your guns.
Replies: >>96219203
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:51:50 PM No.96219177
>>96219164
That half of "fans" played one mechwarrior game and have no other involvement with battletech.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:54:28 PM No.96219203
>>96219172
Tailored to the situation, but they still intentionally hamper themselves in pretty much any situation they can. Not to mention the various technologies they shun or even destroy on contact for being "unclanlike".
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:55:56 PM No.96219211
>>96219164
And then there's people like you, who insist that actually all mechs can do dark souls dodgerolls, and please ignore that they are basically never written or depicted in official art doing that.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 12:57:39 PM No.96219219
MechMelee
MechMelee
md5: 0972eddec623ca206c0244e7a60a09fc๐Ÿ”
>>96219211
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:09:08 PM No.96219271
1704051452598320
1704051452598320
md5: fff4d7a9da6581eb0f24925b247e2387๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96228245
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:18:18 PM No.96219296
>>96217421
>I could always just piss in his sleep apnea machine.

Of course it's a fatty
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 1:48:00 PM No.96219385
>>96217886
listen to this anon
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 3:29:26 PM No.96219932
1417507581689
1417507581689
md5: f69adca626c7737227977b27b31bcce5๐Ÿ”
>>96217442
Dunbine is an excellent show though?
Replies: >>96220019
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 3:40:12 PM No.96220019
>>96219932
Dunbine is good because it's the only isekai where all the fun totally spirals out of control.

>We kidnapped a college student from California and he showed us how to make transistors!
>Then he told us the purpose was to make GIANT BUG ROBOTS WITH IT
>Then the MC is a biker thug

God, just peak 80's.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 3:50:04 PM No.96220091
>>96219203
To be absolutely fair, Clan mechs do have cockpits that are significantly smaller than IS cockpits in the fluff, they a lot of the campaign/long patrol stuff IS Mechs have like the cot, the toilet unit, the storage, etc, since Clanners design their equipment around duels and quick skirmishing, not long campaigns where they need to be in their mech for days to weeks at a time.
It's just not represented mechanically because their small cockpits aren't so small as to hamper actual pilot ability, it just costs out the non-essentials for mech combat, whereas the small cockpits designed by the IS were intended to cut down enough to save tonnage, even at the cost of comfort and piloting ability.
One has the style of combat their culture revolves around in mind, the other saving space and weight.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:18:44 PM No.96220703
>>96219211
Battlemechs are shown doing handstands and summersaults.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:49:03 PM No.96220876
>>96220703
That's not something the average pilot can do, though, and certainly not in combat situations. It's the mech equivalent of air show trick flying.
That being said, mechs are supposed to be a lot more agile than the videogames would suggest. They can run, jump, crouch, climb, and of course rip off another mech's arm and beat its pilot to death with it. They can more or less copy normal human range of motion.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 5:52:46 PM No.96220892
>>96220703
>>96220876
>>96219211
It's like how you can make a forklift dance - it's a skill you can have and a thing the forklift can do, but it's not the kind of skill you'd ask your best forklift operators to master.

That being said, any MW videya worth its salt should occasionally feature somebody who whose mech can do more than assume the position and lumber forward.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:00:18 PM No.96220936
>>96220876
>>96220892
>https://youtu.be/19-Pp7e4jjs?si=J1QWoDV-tqsSsh88
This would be an โ€œaverageโ€ mech pilot Iโ€™d say, with the backflips and handstands reserved for the more elite pilots.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:17:03 PM No.96221053
>>96220876
I mean, if you go by mechanics then even the average MechWarrior can have their mechs climb vertical heights, accurately toss things, strafe, etc, the kinds of precise movement that require a lot of agility that a stiff, bipedal tank like presented in the vidyas couldn't pull off. The rule books are also pretty explicit about how the Neurohelmet bridges that gap between pilot and mech, making it feel more like putting on a suit and not just piloting a humanoid vehicle. How agile and humanlike a Mech can move is purely a matter of skill, not inherent limitations people assume Mechs have.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:26:05 PM No.96221116
>>96220936
There probably are differences in training. You might train a light mech scout to move like that, but medium and upwards, you'd treat them like work horses - pilot gotta walk without killing themselves first thing, no matter the situation.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:37:21 PM No.96221192
>>96221116
True but even assault mechs are very fast and lightweight by the standards of modern vehicles.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:41:24 PM No.96221220
>>96221192
All the same, you'd train the pilots to walk in ways that maximize the shooting and to not flinch when being shot at.
These are land battleships.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 6:58:18 PM No.96221318
20250731_125654
20250731_125654
md5: 5f434027681d2209cbd8d6581198f993๐Ÿ”
How do you do fellow weeaboos
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 7:59:15 PM No.96221670
IMG_20250731_115654
IMG_20250731_115654
md5: 927a105795d902e97dcdc1c10c6eb68d๐Ÿ”
Making progress.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 9:58:21 PM No.96222552
What are you house rules / optional rules you always use when possible?

For me: Punch table melee weapons. If you're paying the tonnage for it, it SHOULD be a better default choice than a kick.
Threshold PSRs for aerospace, except for if something has the flak special rule, then it causes PSRs for hitting like default.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:12:35 PM No.96222653
>>96222552
I always use floating TACs.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:18:21 PM No.96222710
IMG_9265
IMG_9265
md5: 52d02f342c75bba035e967272aee95d5๐Ÿ”
LAM pages from the new TRO 3025
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:19:43 PM No.96222720
IMG_9266
IMG_9266
md5: 0b62d9bd40765a78fd8859764f93183e๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96222846 >>96222900 >>96223488 >>96223550 >>96223829 >>96224024 >>96224120 >>96226624 >>96227978 >>96229145
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:21:30 PM No.96222733
IMG_9267
IMG_9267
md5: 99338db826b6b47d7ade70ddf563b5f3๐Ÿ”
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:34:36 PM No.96222846
>>96222710
>>96222720
>>96222733
Mmmm, LAMs. If you can bring a piloting 2 jockey they can do good work, bring a normal pilot and they die in a burning pile sometime during your movement phase. Awful in the air, bad on the ground, interesting in air-mech mode.

I like that the book highlighted their advantages on the operational scale, they're great scouts if you don't have to worry about them being targeted by enemy air.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:37:18 PM No.96222869
>>96222710
LAMs no longer looking all anime is an atrocity.

The Stinger barely looks like an airplane at all.
Replies: >>96224939
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:40:34 PM No.96222900
concern
concern
md5: 608deade1ce0183692ccbc18c00fd24e๐Ÿ”
>>96222733
>>96222720
>>96222710
Is this your choice, White Anglo-Saxon male?
Replies: >>96223060
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:50:59 PM No.96222986
erikagolem
erikagolem
md5: e51184eb2817f737ddb5e3a0ac547418๐Ÿ”
Howdy frens, I was sick for a while and couldn't paint or really get into the game, but I have quite a few boxes that I ordered a while ago with the mercenaries kickstarter. Now I'm feeling better, so I'd like to start playing Battletech :D

I have 3 LRM Carriers, 1 Patton, 1 Black Python, 1 Highlander IIC, 1 SM5 Field Commander, 4 Savannah Masters, 1 Charger, 1 Cicada, 1 Clint, 1 Hermes II, 1 Dervish, 2 Vulcan, 1 Locust IIC, 2 Demolisher Heavy Tanks, 2 Schrek PPC Carriers, 2 Condor Heavy Hover Tanks, 2 Pegasus Scout Hover Tanks, 1 JagerMech, 1 Scorpion, 1 Whitworth, 2 Manicore Heavy Tanks, 2 Vedette Medium Tanks, 2 SRM Carrier, 1 Devastator, 1 Flea, 1 Firefly, 1 Caesar, 1 Quickdraw, 1 Starslayer, 1 Ostsol, 1 Chameleon, 2 Maxim Hover Tanks and 2 Galleon Light Tanks

Yes, I know there are a lot of vehicles, but I was in full combined arms autism when I put eurobucks in the mercenaries kickstarter

I'd like to make an Inner Sphere combined arms list to get into the game and play, but I'm not sure how to balance it. On the one hand, I'd like to include a lot of vehicles, but I heard that can quickly become cancerous, and I don't want to make a cancerous or cheese list that's not fun to play against and since there aren't many players where I am, I don't want to show up and have a hellish list in my first game, that would give a bad first impression

Soooo does anyone have any advice on how to make the list or ideas for lists to make? I would really like to make some combined arms that are fun and balanced for everyone, both me and my opponent. Thanks you so much frens
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 10:59:58 PM No.96223059
>>96222986
To make specific lists weโ€™d have to know more about the kind of games youโ€™re going to be playing. If itโ€™s just pick up games with a BV limit and a cap on max units, thatโ€™s pretty easy, but most groups set different restrictions or change the BV limits around depending on how much time you want to spend at the table, and thereโ€™s no strict rules on any of this so thereโ€™s not really a โ€œstandardโ€ BV to aim for.

Unless youโ€™re building out different lances or companies for a known BV limit though, Iโ€™d say just paint everybody in a paint job you enjoy, and build your lists from that pool as you need them.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:00:04 PM No.96223060
>>96222900
They were just posted in another discord I'm in
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:00:22 PM No.96223064
>>96222986
The way to avoid cancer is to keep total model count reasonable. So if your opponent has a lance of 4 Mechs, don't have more than say 6 units total. More than that not only gets annoying because it takes time, it's also unfair because of initiative sinks.

One thing to do in general is to use the slightly cheaper vehicles to allow you to have slightly more expensive Mechs.

For example, the Demolisher is a 6-9 hex radius bubble that enemies won't enter, or a fire magnet. And it's twice the guns for less than a Hunchback!

Or use a Shreck as heavy fire support instead of an Awesome, saving 500+ BV. LRM Carriers are also amazing fire support for cheap.

Anyway, use those extra BV you save to let you deploy that Black Py - I mean, White Raven, and that Highlander.

Stay away from the SM5, it's good but it's very, very expensive for what it does.

Also, consider having something proxy for a Saladin (actually, the SM5 would be great for that since it's also a fast hover with an AC/20). Those are crazy little guys and a lot of fun to use.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:03:57 PM No.96223088
>>96221192
All assault mechs are heavier than any MBT currently in use, even the ridiculously heavy fat fuck that is the challenger 2. There has never even been a tank in service with any nation weighing at least 80 tons.
Replies: >>96223110
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:08:30 PM No.96223110
>>96223088
Yes but MBT's aren't really a fair comparison, an MBT is more of a light mobile turret compared to a mech's land battleship. Compare the 80 tons of an assault mech to the 58,000 tons of an Iowa class battleship and you have a better example.
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Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:19:54 PM No.96223169
>>96223059
I'm not really sure about the cost in BV in my area. The only place in my fucking country where people talk about Battletech is a half-dead facebook group, but I'm hoping that by posting there, I'll be able to ask them. From what I've seen online, the โ€˜standardโ€™ is 4k/6k? But after that, it depends on the era of what I see online?

Yeah, that's what I was thinking of doing in the end, or else I'll look at the BV price of the minis and paint half with one colour scheme and the other half with another, so I'll have two groups and I can force my friends to play... I had thought about doing that with a more classic mech-oriented force and a full combined arms as OPFOR, but I'm not really sure, I need to think about it, thanks

>>96223064
Thanks, I'll make a note of that :D. I like the idea of using vehicles so I can use more expensive mechs. I'll try to stick with the idea of having a few more units than my opponent to keep the game fun. But is it okay to play a Clan mech like the Black Python with a mainly IS list?
Replies: >>96223311
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:21:27 PM No.96223185
>>96223110
>9 Long Toms
>20 AC5s
>80 AC2s
>49 MGs

Please, I want to know what 80 ton mech caries similar firepower.
Replies: >>96223258 >>96223262 >>96223316 >>96223922
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:26:41 PM No.96223218
>>96223110
No? BT mechs carry similar armor and firepower to BT tanks. Tanks are the closest comparison.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:28:21 PM No.96223231
>>96223110
I swear this is just an AI designed to argue ridiculous, obviously wrong points.
Replies: >>96223259
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:32:32 PM No.96223258
26064bf7aeeba1864b5a9d8e664d0d82--gurren-lagann
26064bf7aeeba1864b5a9d8e664d0d82--gurren-lagann
md5: 3fdb00aa83f5bd5aa1e5d43e23fdec7e๐Ÿ”
>>96223185
>>96223110
Needs an axe.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:32:34 PM No.96223259
>>96223231
It's manic, a neckbeard basement dwelling loser who has never done anything but has a (wrong) opinion on everything.
Replies: >>96223274 >>96223691
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:33:12 PM No.96223262
>>96223185
Well the AC-sized weapons would be medium and light rifles I reckon.
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:34:16 PM No.96223274
>>96223259
That's certainly not manic's style of writing. It's the one that keeps posting lazy AI colorizations of BT art.
Replies: >>96223691
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:39:29 PM No.96223311
>>96223169
>But is it okay to play a Clan mech like the Black Python with a mainly IS list?

So, short answer is "no", especially because the Black Python specifically is basically a Steel Viper (and later Snow Raven) exclusive, but no one should be too much of an asshole. Either say you're playing DA (which the SM5 is), or say that it's a second-line Clan unit (which use vehicles, and sometimes even IS vehicles) and if you aren't Vipers that the Python is isorla, or if you're an IS force, say that the Python was taken during a raid on a Viper world protected by a second-line unit. Works better if you're FedCom, but not necessary.

But really, most people aren't assholes about that sort of thing as long as you aren't obviously min-maxing to combine the TSM Berserker with a Hellstar or whatever.
Replies: >>96223971
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:40:30 PM No.96223316
>>96223185
>not even a single energy weapon

Man, whoever designed that Mech must be really confident in their ability to restock ammo in the field.
Replies: >>96223337 >>96223691
Anonymous
7/31/2025, 11:43:15 PM No.96223337
United States flag
United States flag
md5: 742038759cdc69fe1833900df7d8ade7๐Ÿ”
>>96223316
You're goddamn right.
Replies: >>96223691
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:03:55 AM No.96223488
>>96222733
>>96222720
>>96222710
I actually kinda like the redesigns, but is there any art of them in ASF or Mech mode?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:12:25 AM No.96223550
>>96222710
>>96222720
>>96222733
Shimmy really has a major problem with making his redesigns overly fat and squat.
Still like the old ones more.
Replies: >>96223586 >>96223739
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:17:30 AM No.96223586
Screamer_LAM_XTROGunslingers
Screamer_LAM_XTROGunslingers
md5: 9d9345cc3add89e3492a0c9031e15552๐Ÿ”
>>96223550
The previous round of designs/redesigns were all pretty fat too. The unseen pixie LAM is a wide ass delta wing.
Replies: >>96223594
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:18:35 AM No.96223594
Phoenix_Hawk_LAM_MK_I_AirMech_TRO3085
Phoenix_Hawk_LAM_MK_I_AirMech_TRO3085
md5: df57e3a972e4e60c5be7b7e967eee03d๐Ÿ”
>>96223586
Replies: >>96223605 >>96223623 >>96223746
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:20:32 AM No.96223605
Stinger_LAM_Mk._I_(2)
Stinger_LAM_Mk._I_(2)
md5: d2bcec6a0635d7edb72f7af748ae0fb4๐Ÿ”
>>96223594
Replies: >>96223623
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:23:09 AM No.96223623
>>96223594
>>96223605
Even those limbs are spindly and the wings thin compared to shimmy's work.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:32:52 AM No.96223691
Iowa class
Iowa class
md5: 45ac2e314deffdbfb69e2f0233662b6c๐Ÿ”
>>96222986
>3 LRM Carriers
>2 SRM Carrier
Wait, did you not get the turrets to switch them like in the box set?

>>96223259
>>96223274
And I don't live in a basement, at least not yet.

>>96223316
>>96223337
U! S! A!
U! S! A!
Replies: >>96223702 >>96223971
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:33:53 AM No.96223702
>>96223691
Salvage box, methinks.
Replies: >>96223716 >>96223971
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:35:32 AM No.96223716
>>96223702
I assumed so due to the odd LRM Carrier, but I didn't know if the salvage version came with the other turret.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:36:05 AM No.96223724
>>96217362
>>96217374
>>96217615
>>96219164
>mecha goes real robo, Americans split off from that idea
>they start incredibly similar to one another (Near identical in BT's case)
>Western Mechs becomes "tanks with legs" that are so unbelievably shitty that no military would ever want to fund.
>Eastern Real Robo go so all in on being people-shaped jetfighters that you question why they even have legs if they can just float everywhere.
Crazy how in an attempt to differentiate themselves from Super Robo, they both ended up becoming less grounded as a result.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:39:21 AM No.96223739
duomk0i4ku4e1
duomk0i4ku4e1
md5: effae41a6c42a58ac8447615af0b4d82๐Ÿ”
>>96223550
My cope now is that they are squat because it will be easier to make plastic minis for them. The metal IWM LAMs are a fucking nightmare to build
Replies: >>96223766
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:40:20 AM No.96223746
12
12
md5: 1f9b2eb219a2213b12ac568bf08da0d0๐Ÿ”
>>96223594
Why is he naked?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:41:54 AM No.96223757
DEDUntilnewpunchingbagneeded
DEDUntilnewpunchingbagneeded
md5: 7459f272f3e2174d5d9035b97252bf17๐Ÿ”
What clan will they revive for no reason next and make worse as a result?
Replies: >>96223833 >>96223847 >>96226663
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:43:40 AM No.96223766
>>96223739
I'm pretty sure that's always been the reason shimmy's redesigns are thick, simple and flat.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:54:53 AM No.96223829
>>96222710
>>96222720
>>96222733

>Dude can't bother to take pictures with a shirt on.
Come the fuck on!

Otherwise, much better than Shuda's Mk I's. My only real complaint is the fast pack on the wasp and no handheld guns.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:55:38 AM No.96223833
>>96223757
Definitely the Wolverines
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:57:26 AM No.96223847
>>96223757
I'll say either of the blood spirits or widowmakers, as an attempt to pad the council for Alaric. Blood Spirits to collect all the dregs from the free guilds and loose ex-clan holdings into a "see, all clanners should be united in the spirit of doing whatever Alaric says, so you can be a real clan too!" type group, leaning on their power of friendship motif. Widowmaker because Wolf already has a bunch of their bloodlines anyway, so making up some bullshit about them earning their way back to being a clan (who always votes for whatever Alaric wants, of course) would be easy.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:59:30 AM No.96223863
IMG_20250731_165813
IMG_20250731_165813
md5: d45c2f44649460ac7f41c80d4f267dbb๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96223869 >>96223870 >>96226976 >>96227003 >>96227213
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:00:34 AM No.96223869
IMG_20250731_165744
IMG_20250731_165744
md5: a09f3ec4405cf4ef6b34f30653e63f05๐Ÿ”
>>96223863
All finished!
Replies: >>96226446 >>96226608 >>96227213
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:00:35 AM No.96223870
>>96223863
Nicely done.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:08:17 AM No.96223908
Anything interesting from GenCon?
Replies: >>96224046
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:11:44 AM No.96223922
>>96223185
An Iowa class battleship does not have long-toms, those would be more like light-rifles by BT standards.
Replies: >>96223926 >>96223947 >>96223956
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:12:41 AM No.96223926
>>96223922
>those would be more like light-rifles by BT standards
>Bullshit Dev cope
Replies: >>96223938
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:16:29 AM No.96223938
>>96223926
Or it's just outdated technology
Replies: >>96224195
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:17:53 AM No.96223947
>>96223922
Aren't tank guns light rifles?

Anyway, a modern tank has a 105 or 120mm gun.

Iowas' were 406mm.
Replies: >>96223957
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:19:48 AM No.96223956
>>96223922
Those would be a primitive weapon for which there are no stats. The stats given to what few primitive weapons we have are already stretched extremely thinly across the distant past. They give the same statline to WW1 tank guns and future space guns from the year 2236. The colonial marines failing to squash the outer reaches rebellion on Skye had light and medium rifles on their space tanks. Too many things are compressed into the rifle family of weapons. It's a gross approximation because they needed something for retrotech. It's not a good benchmark for actual old weapons.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:19:58 AM No.96223957
>>96223947
This. An Iowa would be like Heavy Rifles.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:21:33 AM No.96223971
43cd8147667aa6b9539aa773458cffbc6c70e3c8
43cd8147667aa6b9539aa773458cffbc6c70e3c8
md5: 0a7e64909e06ca702c90da3feb4a2194๐Ÿ”
>>96223311
Ohh thanks. I'm going to go with the Python stolen during a raid on a less protected world. That seems most consistent with the rest of the force who will be IS

>>96223691
>>96223702
Oh damn, you're right, I'm just fucking retarded, I just checked, and there is indeed an extra turret in the salvage box. So I can do 5 LRM/SRM and mix and match as I please depending on the situation, it's missile time
Replies: >>96223997 >>96224195
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:26:26 AM No.96223997
Quikscell
Quikscell
md5: 02ce26fe71eda5d8ecbc2389604a2b24๐Ÿ”
>>96223971
>Oh damn, you're right, I'm just fucking retarded, I just checked, and there is indeed an extra turret in the salvage box. So I can do 5 LRM/SRM and mix and match as I please depending on the situation, it's missile time

Honestly, 3 LRM/2SRM is the perfect combo to create something cheap and horrible to oppose.

All 5 of those together cost half as much [in C-bills] as one of your big fancy Clan Mechs.

Does someone have that cute Quikscell copypasta? I saw it in here a couple threads ago.
Replies: >>96224018
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:29:56 AM No.96224018
>>96223997
I'm sure that if I bring this to the game, my opponent will chase me with a stick as soon as I put the minis on the table lol
Replies: >>96224195
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:31:19 AM No.96224024
Phoenix-Hawk-LAM
Phoenix-Hawk-LAM
md5: 2e9c3de1f53a618aaf63008f5da831a8๐Ÿ”
>>96222733
>>96222720
>>96222710
Honestly they should just drop the mech mode and readjust the Airmech and ASF modes. There's no real need to have bipedal mode and slightly more bipedal mode beyond keeping in a reference that the last line dev clearly disdained.
Plus it's probably a lot more palatable to have a mech that just needs to tuck in and lock its limbs to look and fly like a plane, rather than a whole seperate transformation where the cockpit pulls back and pops out into a head unit for reasons.
Replies: >>96224051
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:35:22 AM No.96224046
>>96223908
Gencon is for people who play games. Why would you be asking anyone here what's happening at gencon?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:36:55 AM No.96224051
>>96224024
Mech mode has a big advantage in tight terrain and if there's a lot of flak. Airmechs have absolutely pitiful walk speeds, they're typically something like 1/2 or 2/3 on the ground. If they can't or don't want to fly, they're sitting ducks. In mech mode they can at least run at 6, 8, or 9.
Replies: >>96224088 >>96224345
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:44:53 AM No.96224088
>>96224051
Plus underwater advantages.
Replies: >>96224176
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:49:16 AM No.96224120
>>96222710
>>96222720
>>96222733
Give me the fucking minis.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:56:50 AM No.96224176
>>96224088
I think you've got bigger problems to worry about if putting a LAM underwater sounded like a good idea.
Replies: >>96224190 >>96224291
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:59:00 AM No.96224190
>>96224176
It's an absolutely awesome way to bust through the aero screen and land on a world for recon.
Replies: >>96224210
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:59:24 AM No.96224195
>>96223938
>Or it's just outdated technology
That's not how physics works...

>>96223971
>it's missile time
YES!

>>96224018
>I'm sure that if I bring this to the game, my opponent will chase me with a stick as soon as I put the minis on the table lol
I don't know, you could go 5 LRM Carriers with your 4 Savannah Masters.
Replies: >>96224206
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:01:34 AM No.96224206
>>96224195
>That's not how physics works...
Neither is Battletech's ablative armor yet here we are.
Replies: >>96224266
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:01:59 AM No.96224210
>>96224190
But then you have to get back out of the water without the benefits of UMUs or buoyancy.
Replies: >>96224222 >>96224255 >>96224266
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:03:18 AM No.96224222
>>96224210
He has legs.
Replies: >>96224235 >>96224266 >>96224341
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:04:38 AM No.96224235
>>96224222
And a buoyancy comparable to a large boulder, or several smaller boulders combined.
Replies: >>96224253 >>96224255 >>96224266
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:06:35 AM No.96224253
>>96224235
And?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:06:45 AM No.96224255
>>96224210
>>96224235

Interesting math. Mechs have a comparable density to styrofoam. It's the water leaking into all their open spaces that allows them to walk along the bottom.
Replies: >>96224267 >>96224282 >>96224288 >>96224338 >>96225463
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:08:10 AM No.96224266
>>96224206
>Neither is Battletech's ablative armor yet here we are.
I mean it could, it'd be carcinogenetic as fuck, but it could.

>>96224210
>>96224222
>>96224235
>Should we tell him the densities come out around "Styrofoam"?
Replies: >>96224276 >>96224282 >>96224288 >>96224338
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:08:11 AM No.96224267
>>96224255
Doesn't the water only get in when you fluff a piloting check to enter another underwater hex, fall, and fail the breach check on the location you fell on?
Replies: >>96224287
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:09:26 AM No.96224276
>>96224266
>it'd be carcinogenetic as fuck
Like civilians, infantry, or techs matter.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:10:45 AM No.96224282
>>96224255
>>96224266
People say this, but no one ever posts their work.
I've done some napkin math on an atlas, as that's the usual claim, and it's a far cry from being buoyant. Maybe lighter mechs get there, but I suspect it's the BT equivalent of fuddlore.
Replies: >>96224298 >>96224381
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:11:03 AM No.96224287
>>96224267
Breach is when the water gets into critical systems and kills them. There's plenty of other space that floods without a problem, including the heat exchangers which improve your dissipation.
Replies: >>96224300
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:11:16 AM No.96224288
>>96224255
>>96224266
I'm gonna need you to go check the weight to length ratios on school buses and F-16s. Then remember that mechs are the same height as those are long, but usually a lot heavier.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:11:29 AM No.96224291
>>96224176
You've got bigger problems if you think that airplanes underwater isn't completely awesome.

https://youtu.be/wY_O_prD9gg?t=442
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:12:04 AM No.96224298
Volume version 3
Volume version 3
md5: 7ddf3076801eb44ac8995b5c455353af๐Ÿ”
>>96224282
I have mini measurements, if you wish to convert?
Replies: >>96224315 >>96224316 >>96224388
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:12:18 AM No.96224300
>>96224287
Neat. I didnt know this.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:13:47 AM No.96224315
>>96224298
Wtf flavor of autism is this? Do we have engineers or something in thread.
Replies: >>96224336 >>96224340
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:14:11 AM No.96224316
>>96224298
>if you wish to convert?
Hard to do without units
Replies: >>96224344
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:16:50 AM No.96224336
>>96224315
Volume/Tonnage charts are critical for charting scale creep over time and deciding what is the exact correct size for 3D prints.

Also, just a humble Earth Scientist. That I build and program my own 3D printers is incidental autism.
Replies: >>96224360
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:17:12 AM No.96224338
Southwest_Coach_2984_side
Southwest_Coach_2984_side
md5: 6d5a7bd68f41149bd18bdf5b6a68ccdf๐Ÿ”
>>96224255
>>96224266
Behold, a styrofoam! It's almost 12 meters long (longer than many mechs are tall) yet only weighs somewhere between 8 and 15 tons! A mere gust of wind will blow it away, and the children delight when it runs off the road into a river and floats gaily downstream!
Replies: >>96224395 >>96224400 >>96224670
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:17:23 AM No.96224340
>>96224315
Wow, it's like the game whose flagship product is in-universe technical readouts appeals to engineers or something
Replies: >>96224352
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:17:30 AM No.96224341
>>96224222
Mechs are female.
Replies: >>96224348 >>96224447 >>96226049
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:18:01 AM No.96224344
>>96224316
Mech Tons per Cubic Centimeter. It's a nice printing ratio to work with.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:18:11 AM No.96224345
>>96224051
That's fair, I'd still argue that the mech form doesn't need to be fully humanoid though. It could be as simple as just Airmech mode having the wings fully popped out and legs bent further to compensate for jumps, and Mech mode having the wings folded fully back with the legs stretched out a bit for running unimpeded.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:18:28 AM No.96224348
Hot-Spots-Hinterlands-2204210094
Hot-Spots-Hinterlands-2204210094
md5: c5710880802b8d83521b7ab6d00339e8๐Ÿ”
>>96224341
Correct. Look, she's got a shawl. Intrinsically feminine.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:19:07 AM No.96224352
>>96224340
I have found most hobby related things can attract engineers. The results can be terrifying.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:19:18 AM No.96224354
>>96222552
UAC jams can be cleared that round by expending the stuck round but weapon can't be fired again until next round

Everyone is default 3/4 without BV increase. Any upgrades past that have same cost as normal.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:20:49 AM No.96224360
>>96224336
>Volume/Tonnage charts are critical for charting scale creep over time and deciding what is the exact correct size for 3D prints.
This makes sense. Keep on keeping on 3d print bro.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:23:29 AM No.96224381
>>96224282
Let's assume that a Mech has the same volume as a human, proportionally.

A 100kg human would have a volume of roughly 0.1 m^3, and is 2m tall.

So a 14 meter tall Mech would be (7^3 * 0.1) = 34.3 m^3

100,000kg (100 tons) / 34.3 m^3 = 2900kg/m^3, which is about three times as dense as water.

But an Atlas is way more swole than a human. By a factor of three? Probably. A factor of five? Maybe.

But styrofoam is 1-4% the density of water, whereas a Mech will be probably in the 10-50% range. So lighter than water, maybe, but not styrofoam.

It's the DropShips that get insane.

If we assume that a Union is an oblate spheroid of radius 81.5m and height 78 meters, its density comes out to 1.66 kg/m^3 while fully loaded, which is on the lighter end of styrofoam (water is just about 1000kg/m^3).
Replies: >>96224401
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:24:29 AM No.96224388
>>96224298

What are the volume numbers given as?
Replies: >>96224415
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:25:30 AM No.96224395
>>96224338
>nd the children delight when it runs off the road into a river and floats gaily downstream!

Okay, but if it was watertight, a schoolbus would completely float.
Replies: >>96224400 >>96224413
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:26:10 AM No.96224400
>>96224338
>when it runs off the road into a river and floats gaily downstream!
>>96224395
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs7as8tk6J0
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:26:20 AM No.96224401
>>96224381
>If we assume that a Union is an oblate spheroid of radius 81.5m and height 78 meters, its density comes out to 1.66 kg/m^3 while fully loaded, which is on the lighter end of styrofoam (water is just about 1000kg/m^3).
So the Phobos and Deimos getting made into erstaz water going vessels in the GDL trilogy wasn't 100% insane?
Replies: >>96224418
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:28:51 AM No.96224413
>>96224395
Mostly because it's all empty space in there. A mech has a lot less of that and also weighs upwards of twice as much to a dozen times more.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:29:08 AM No.96224415
>>96224388
Cubic centimeters per fluff ton.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:29:15 AM No.96224418
>>96224401
Honestly, they're probably too light to make effective water vessels. They'd be taken anywhere by the wind making them hard to control.

In fact, DropShips should be tied down really hard when they land. They're about 30% heavier than an airship.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:30:09 AM No.96224424
Shadow_hawk_iic_7
Shadow_hawk_iic_7
md5: e52aff9629bb429724002067263fa5a8๐Ÿ”
Kinda semi-related to the LAM talk, apparently there are advanced rules to treat Mech JJs like thrusters for space combat, and there are designs like the Shadowhawk IIC7 designed for space combat in mind.
How does that work, does anyone have the rules for it?
Replies: >>96224439 >>96224463 >>96225636
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:31:54 AM No.96224439
>>96224424
Mechs only carry a tiny amount of reaction mass by default, iirc something like 10 space movement points worth, which is only two or three turns of active maneuvers. Variants actually made for space carry liquid storage tanks to supplement it.
Replies: >>96224465 >>96225636
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:32:56 AM No.96224447
1Cykh8n
1Cykh8n
md5: f2a2d1ba274be5c6b844e614778672c9๐Ÿ”
>>96224341
Damn straight. Men don't have giant cannons on their chests.
Replies: >>96224456 >>96224572
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:34:10 AM No.96224456
My Gaussies
My Gaussies
md5: d81a8e4aa25c7c256a0a1130c8b988f5๐Ÿ”
>>96224447
Replies: >>96224466
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:35:06 AM No.96224463
>>96224424
Space hexes are so big that only actual space designs like the one you posted can do anything, and only for like 7 rounds in a row. ASF are the mechs of space, always have been.

Knights of the Void motherfuckers!
Replies: >>96224560
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:35:17 AM No.96224465
>>96224439
Assuming you have the appropriate liquid storage for a full combat scenario, do Mechs move at Aerotech speeds, or are they more like floating ducks?
Also if you know where to find these rules I'd really appreciate it.
Replies: >>96224531 >>96225636
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:35:38 AM No.96224466
>>96224456
I was looking for that and couldn't find it.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:38:20 AM No.96224484
Screenshot_20250731-143616.Discord
Screenshot_20250731-143616.Discord
md5: 62b3d89a3b58c97392a9cd2f7d5fc9c6๐Ÿ”
>>96217746
Stylized to look like armor
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:47:01 AM No.96224531
>>96224465
I would hazard a guess that the current iteration of space rules are in the strategic operations: advanced aerospace rules book, but who knows. It could just as likely be spread out across interstellar or tacops.
Replies: >>96224716
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:51:47 AM No.96224560
>>96224463
Old StratOps p24 for movement and p119 for combat. In SO: Advanced Aerospace it's p22 and p107.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:54:03 AM No.96224572
>>96224447
and those 'arms' have same number of crit slots and chance to get hit compared to some mech with gorilla arms?
Replies: >>96224610 >>96224684
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:02:46 AM No.96224610
>>96224572
No, they do not have lower arm or hand actuators on the crit table.
Replies: >>96224684
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:11:59 AM No.96224670
>>96224338
I'm reminded of the old "Behold, I give you a man!" before slamming down a defeathered chicken on the table.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:14:41 AM No.96224684
Anni-chan abs
Anni-chan abs
md5: 3b4ddbf7d15386dbd85046da8eb17873๐Ÿ”
>>96224572
>>96224610
>No, they do not have lower arm or hand actuators on the crit table.
So they have MORE Crit Slots!
Replies: >>96225174
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:19:28 AM No.96224716
>>96224531
Yeah I really wish they put it all in one big book and just split the contents by rule level. Still I appreciate the help, thank you.
Replies: >>96224808
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:48:14 AM No.96224808
>>96224716
>laughs in BMR
Replies: >>96224815
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:49:13 AM No.96224815
>>96224808
There's stuff in TacOps, StratOps, and ISOps from AeroTech 2 and MaxTech.
Replies: >>96224862
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:00:31 AM No.96224862
>>96224815
>"I just don't understand why nobody plays Aerotech" -t. CGL
Replies: >>96224876 >>96224945 >>96225037
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:03:07 AM No.96224876
1450627266706
1450627266706
md5: 814819f39ca17795b2f8599e0c92440c๐Ÿ”
>>96224862
There was talk during adepticon that Aerotech was going to get a revised rulebook released eventually.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:14:37 AM No.96224939
>>96222869
>>96222733
If you look closely, they've still got the head in the middle with the folded back ear parts. That's a pretty clear direct macross reference lol, when many of the older redesigns posted just don't give them heads.
I'd assume that's just them in their middle form which they typically use for art and minis.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:15:00 AM No.96224945
mckenna
mckenna
md5: 78d23be0a4150ee92bce3dce776caa95๐Ÿ”
>>96224862
AeroTech/BattleSpace is a surprisingly decent space battle game on its own. It has Newtonian motion, it has units of three different sizes that work reasonably well on the same scale, what more do you want?
Replies: >>96225045 >>96225100
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:35:44 AM No.96225037
>>96224862
"Aerotech doesn't sell enough" was their excuse for not keeping it all in a dedicated book in the first place
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:37:15 AM No.96225045
>>96224945
>what more do you want?
Less, actually.
Battletech is about big stompy robots.
It's okay to have space,air, ground and sea vehicles /beside/ the stompybots, but it is not okay to have them /instead/ of the stompybots.
Replies: >>96225105 >>96225281
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:51:48 AM No.96225100
>>96224945
The game itself is fine actually, I just wish the rules were gathered up in one book. That's my same criticism for Battletech too. It's a CGL problem, not specifically an Aerotech problem.
Replies: >>96225256
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:52:48 AM No.96225105
>>96225045
But in SPACE, there is nothing to stomp ON!
Replies: >>96225130 >>96225146
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:56:46 AM No.96225128
How quickly would things turn sour if CGL had to play a LAM-based scenario against people that actually understand how LAMS work?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:57:01 AM No.96225130
mech-in-space-art-goes-hard-v0-vf3apulyethe1
mech-in-space-art-goes-hard-v0-vf3apulyethe1
md5: a4c000166b376a466ed8e096cad182b6๐Ÿ”
>>96225105
nu-uh, if I put liquid storage containers on my mech for more fuel, I can zoom around and stomp on everything.
Replies: >>96225140
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:58:36 AM No.96225140
GUNTANK KICK!
GUNTANK KICK!
md5: 88b662bf93e0807fe5b3ded6aa5fceb6๐Ÿ”
>>96225130
That's not a STOMP, that's a KICK!
Replies: >>96225430
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:00:46 AM No.96225146
>>96225105
Incorrect, there is rather zero atmosphere to impede the stomp, if I trigger the jumpjets I can stomp from billions of kilometres away!
In space everyway is above, so all physical attacks are DFA.
Replies: >>96225172
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:06:07 AM No.96225172
Super Isazuma KICK
Super Isazuma KICK
md5: 0f48940a13108ed62432ac765ce232ba๐Ÿ”
>>96225146
THAT'S A KICK!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv7cW_ijtQQ
Replies: >>96225219
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:06:19 AM No.96225174
>>96224684
That paint job and armor is giving me TEC vibes from Sins of a Solar Empire
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:16:45 AM No.96225219
>>96225172
That's a poor translation.
Replies: >>96225220
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:18:06 AM No.96225220
>>96225219
They literally say it, word for word!
Replies: >>96225267
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:26:09 AM No.96225256
>>96225100
Yeah, the "new" books were organized "horizontally" rather than "vertically". But the existence of the BM manual suggested that they might go vertical now.
Replies: >>96225270
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:28:34 AM No.96225267
>>96225220
Woolseyism in the dub.
Replies: >>96225273
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:29:35 AM No.96225270
>>96225256
A truly revolutionary idea would be to simply put all the rules for this single game into a single book!
Replies: >>96225304 >>96225436
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:30:27 AM No.96225273
>>96225267
That's the original Japanese!
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:31:35 AM No.96225281
>>96225045
This shit again.

Almost like there ain't ever been tanks or nothing.
Replies: >>96225289 >>96225303 >>96225440
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:32:54 AM No.96225289
>>96225281
I mean tbf the way that Battletech treats tanks very much plays into the way basically every other mecha anime treats tanks.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:35:47 AM No.96225303
>>96225281
The foundational mythos of the battlemech being a bunch of them kicking the piss out of some tanks so hard everyone started scrambling to make them.
Replies: >>96225333
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:35:52 AM No.96225304
>>96225270
As fun as it is to beat grown men to death with a 6 pound slab of paper, I'd rather it be a little more convenient if I only need some of the rules at any given moment.
Replies: >>96225368 >>96225427
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:41:19 AM No.96225333
>>96225303
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtfjxDFtHHY
This is how I imagine your average Battletech tank vs mech fight going, though Battletech weighs it a bit more strongly in favor of the mechs.
Replies: >>96225526
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:51:33 AM No.96225368
>>96225304
At the very least a gathered trio of books, that splits the crunch more evenly, in one set isn't a huge ask.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:04:48 AM No.96225427
>>96225304
There's this really cool new invention called tabs.
So instead of needing a rulebook to be cut down for you, you can just index the shit you use most frequently.
Replies: >>96225515
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:05:14 AM No.96225430
tumblr_2bc9be78b9e4f2ccb7028c8e92f7f609_150f6088_500
>>96225140
...can you charge in space?
and if so, does it multiply differently based on the Aerotech hexes being way bigger?
Can I charge kick a hole into a Clanner Warship and die in a blaze of glory?
Replies: >>96225445 >>96226356
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:06:20 AM No.96225436
>>96225270
There's definitely too many rules to put in a single book, especially with all the construction rules.

You could maybe break off the construction rules to their own book, and aerospace rules into their own book, possibly support vehicles (in which case you may as well do conventional vehicles and infantry...)
Replies: >>96225500
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:07:20 AM No.96225440
>>96225281
Just ignore him. There's on anon who keeps screaming GIANT STOMPY ROBOTS PUNCHING EACH OTHER every time someone mentions combined arms.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:08:33 AM No.96225445
tyra of the miraborg
tyra of the miraborg
md5: 939581fc7fa53e6f6c04f0c1af5e9f3c๐Ÿ”
>>96225430
>...can you charge in space?
An ASF can.

>and if so, does it multiply differently based on the Aerotech hexes being way bigger?

IIRC it goes by velocity at impact, which you can build up over a couple turns.
Replies: >>96226356
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:13:05 AM No.96225463
>>96224255
According to sourcebooks, at least some of the mechs' components are made of a sort of "foamed metal". It's made of bubbles of liquid metal that use some kind of furistic technology to arrange the bubbles in such a way that when they cool and harden they form a supportive latticework, like honeycombed armor but finer.
Replies: >>96225483
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:17:38 AM No.96225483
>>96225463
A. isn't that just Endo Steel?
B. we have that IRL, and they can indeed be somewhat lighter than water. But nowhere near as light as styrofoam (think 20+%, not 1%).
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:22:51 AM No.96225500
>>96225436
Incorrect, BMR exists and isn't "too big".
This is a rather odd phenomenon in the gaming world that only afflicts wargames and RPG's
With RPG's it makes sense, your encyclopedia of creatures needs to be a single book, and so on with various things, there truly is too much to compile it in a single volume with all the other rules, hell in many cases you need multiple volumes for just that one aspect of an RPG.
Wargames however can easily be single volume items, and in cases like CGL and GW splitting rules up into multiple books you end up with insane amounts of duplicate printing of rules because of it, otherwise you couldn't charge $60 for a hardcover as it would only be 10-20 pages per book, so duplicating entries and stuffing in full-page art, useless and controversial maps showing where modern IRL religions are in the game and full-page fluff entries need to all be jammed in to pad the documents out.
Replies: >>96225520 >>96225540
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:25:35 AM No.96225515
>>96225427
Tabs don't make it less of a 6 pound brick.
Replies: >>96225527
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:25:59 AM No.96225520
>>96225500
can't argue with triple dubs!
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:26:58 AM No.96225526
60110053_1083_1536_486365
60110053_1083_1536_486365
md5: ce84aa912d92931bfcb8c089601fd683๐Ÿ”
>>96225333
It's good, igloo is like halfway to being a great show.
Gundam does as well, just more so later in the war. The zaku was kind of a piece of junk compared to later war designs, and so tanks being able to push back zaku units when used properly started falling apart when higher spec units appeared. By the end of the war tanks are basically pointless and they mostly stop being used afterwards. You still get missile trucks and other ground units but there's basically not much point in fielding MBTs, your armor wont stop a beam and your cannon wont kill a mobile suit.

I wish petite mobile suits showed up more. They're so cute. When are they gonna redo protomechs?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:27:04 AM No.96225527
>>96225515
if 6 pounds is a burden for you, you should get on steroids, fucking weeny.
Replies: >>96225562
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:33:25 AM No.96225540
>>96225500
BMR includes minimal aerospace rules, and doesn't have aerospace construction, "full" BattleSpace rules, or all of the new construction rules that CGL introduced (Battle Armor, infantry, support vehicles). And there's way more equipment now.

CGL has added a bunch of crap to BT. Yes, the core gameplay is unchanged, but there's like three times as much crap hung around it now.
Replies: >>96225544
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:34:35 AM No.96225544
>>96225540
>new construction rules that CGL introduced
Not canon, fit only to be ignored.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:35:56 AM No.96225548
Keeping construction rules separate from gameplay rules is fine because most people never customize or custom design units, and even if they do, construction rules are used at home, not the LGS, so I don't need to bring the construction rules with me.
Replies: >>96225589 >>96225620
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:39:00 AM No.96225562
>>96225527
I like being able to fit two thin books in my small bag along with my minis. There's no space for a phonebook.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:40:39 AM No.96225567
Svartalfa_TROPrototypes
Svartalfa_TROPrototypes
md5: 7e5a3e3b3129320c6d577dc79b4b5bb9๐Ÿ”
What the actual shit?
Replies: >>96225584
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:45:19 AM No.96225584
>>96225567
That's Rape Horse, everyone's favorite character.
Replies: >>96225596 >>96225614
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:46:59 AM No.96225589
>>96225548
>and even if they do, construction rules are used at home, not the LGS
Anecdotal bullshit.
Replies: >>96225613
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:48:50 AM No.96225596
>>96225584
I am upset and uncomfortable.
Replies: >>96225599
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:49:39 AM No.96225599
>>96225596
I know what you're thinking, his name is Rape Horse, is he really going to rape me?
Replies: >>96225826
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:52:49 AM No.96225613
>>96225589
Actually my experiences are universal and objectively correct. So if you say otherwise, you're a liar by definition.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:52:54 AM No.96225614
>>96225584
But Clanners don't believe in rape.

Also, why the fuck do you name something "dark elf" if you're going to give it a horse's head?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:54:25 AM No.96225620
>>96225548
...And now we have multiple rulebooks, "vertically" separated. Especially because the space combat rules don't need to be in the "core book" either.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:58:04 AM No.96225636
>>96224424
>>96224439
>>96224465
Semi-related, but if you wanted to use a space-based design for ground combat, what practical use does a liquid storage tank have? Can you put anything useful in it, or is it effectively just fancy crit padding at that point?
Replies: >>96225654 >>96225657
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:00:51 AM No.96225654
>>96225636
Use it for fuel for a vehicle flamer or something?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:02:04 AM No.96225657
>>96225636
Without a sprayer, I don't think so. Maybe you could use it to recharge depleted coolant, but I think that's technically considered a unique ability/quirk of the coolant truck and only relevant if you play with coolant depletion rules anyway.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:04:15 AM No.96225661
IMG_20250611_215851796
IMG_20250611_215851796
md5: f20832e0de8d30995b2e123aed3ce5bc๐Ÿ”
Blood Asp, needs more blood.
Replies: >>96225747
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:13:43 AM No.96225712
fleachan
fleachan
md5: 003dcf341e20755c679bf197651e8269๐Ÿ”
Fleas or locusts?
What's your 20 tonner of choice?
Replies: >>96225765 >>96225807 >>96226356
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:19:50 AM No.96225747
haha asp
haha asp
md5: 225a735de1c5a335176f0245a2581234๐Ÿ”
>>96225661
Maybe more asp as well?
Replies: >>96225756 >>96225836
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:22:17 AM No.96225756
>>96225747
I think it needs more asp than blood
Replies: >>96225836
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:22:56 AM No.96225765
thorn
thorn
md5: 8bb245fcbf289f2ea649c642295479fc๐Ÿ”
>>96225712
>What's your 20 tonner of choice?
Thorn, but if I have to choose between the flea and the locust, probably the locust.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:33:04 AM No.96225807
IMG_20250613_225331278
IMG_20250613_225331278
md5: b89d43ef9eb9002f0fa9e661173f90df๐Ÿ”
>>96225712
Fire Moth P. Fuck you in a can.
Replies: >>96225830
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:38:12 AM No.96225826
Say the line, Bart!
Say the line, Bart!
md5: aca9aec22fb90753b894c756ce4fb7d3๐Ÿ”
>>96225599
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:38:54 AM No.96225830
>>96225807
I like the H better. It's true that those extra 5 hexes of running can be what lets you get around back, but 36 < 54, though I suppose with the modifiers from the pulse lasers and the heavy lasers, it might work out more on average in some cases.
Replies: >>96225869
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:39:54 AM No.96225836
IMG_20250618_203728122
IMG_20250618_203728122
md5: 23e602225aabff2da2cd86f16a061514๐Ÿ”
>>96225747
>>96225756
My Legionnaire needs a hat or hair
Replies: >>96225850 >>96226026
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:44:54 AM No.96225850
>>96225836
He looks like he needs to go back to the future, doc
Replies: >>96225868 >>96225886
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:48:31 AM No.96225868
CGL insists the kids will love it
CGL insists the kids will love it
md5: 03c458a666f8c490ea48c9569d440172๐Ÿ”
>>96225850
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:48:51 AM No.96225869
IMG_20250523_221408257
IMG_20250523_221408257
md5: 5503950a9660ae72d065ae8787e358c2๐Ÿ”
>>96225830
I combo up Fire Moth with Piranha 5 for mondo spam.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:54:50 AM No.96225886
IMG_20240620_195753717
IMG_20240620_195753717
md5: 7dd5b10361fa7bca2b467c4494672a7a๐Ÿ”
>>96225850
Painting clothes on Mechs.
Replies: >>96226125 >>96226137
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:37:20 AM No.96226026
>>96225836
He has a hat. It has several rapidly-rotating barrels.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:45:36 AM No.96226049
>>96224341
You wish.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:11:44 AM No.96226125
>>96225886
Whatever happened to those ones painted up to look like a baseball team?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:14:55 AM No.96226137
>>96225886
>Tunnel snakes rule!
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:08:23 AM No.96226356
1501269163900
1501269163900
md5: c6495749417e20b96fa898abe91d9edf๐Ÿ”
>>96225430
>>96225445
Be the foot that Kicks the Clanners Ass!

>>96225712
>Fleas or locusts?
Locust for Compact Mech.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:36:51 AM No.96226446
>>96223869
>incorrect German

If you're going to continue shitposting at least get it right
Replies: >>96226526 >>96226760 >>96228214
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:02:30 AM No.96226526
>>96226446
>B-but it's a thousand years in the future... They're bound to get a lot wrong...
Replies: >>96226716 >>96228214
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:30:50 AM No.96226608
>>96223869
I like the choice of orange, nice work
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:35:57 AM No.96226624
>>96222710
>>96222720
>>96222733
So when will they release that?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:47:08 AM No.96226663
>>96223757
It'd be pretty funny if Alaric brought back Clan Burrock.
some other anon
8/1/2025, 12:03:34 PM No.96226716
>>96226526
I was going to go with "languages evolve over time" myself.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:16:11 PM No.96226760
>>96226446
What is wrong with it?
Replies: >>96226769
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:19:16 PM No.96226769
>>96226760
Das not Der
Replies: >>96226794
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 12:30:51 PM No.96226794
>>96226769
You are referring to the issue of gendered nouns? Regarding german ships it was not entirely consistent and was occasionally decided by personal whim. Some were "der X", some "die X", some "das X".
Were it a simple castle it would of course be "das", but it is a dropship, that would seem to lend far more leeway.
Replies: >>96226865 >>96226881 >>96227445
some other anon
8/1/2025, 12:56:14 PM No.96226865
>>96226794
I don't k ow about German specifically, but in some languages (e.g. French) you don't change the gender of the definite article for a ship's name, e.g. La Victoire even though ships are male in French
Replies: >>96226877 >>96227445
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:01:30 PM No.96226877
>>96226865
In German most ships are feminine. I know that they referred to the Bismarck aa masculine but it was an exception to the rule.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:02:31 PM No.96226881
>>96226794
No by rule ship names are always feminine therefore "Die X", So if the drop ship would be called 'castle' or 'Schloss' one would refer to it as "Die Schloss" but if the ship is called 'the castle' or 'Das Schloss' things get really wonky, and arguably could be correctly referred to as " Die 'Das-Schloss' "(IE the initial article gets incorporated into the X). Either way Der is incorrect.
Replies: >>96226960 >>96227036 >>96227445
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:24:48 PM No.96226960
>>96226881
You are applying an english rule to other languages.
The captain can decide how to refer to the ship, there is precedent.
Replies: >>96227036 >>96227036 >>96228214
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:28:16 PM No.96226976
>>96223863
Son, I am impress.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:33:56 PM No.96227003
>>96223863
I'm incredibly tempted to throw it at a Pikachu
some other anon
8/1/2025, 1:43:15 PM No.96227036
>>96226881
Interesting.

>>96226960
Neat

>>96226960
>The captain can decide how to refer to the ship, there is precedent.

The captain can do whatever he wants, but Definitely-not-a-Nazi-anon might want to know that he has to say he's making a statement.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 1:48:53 PM No.96227063
Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever heard of any ship name with "the" or any article in the actual name. It's all USS constitution or HMS Northumberland, SMS Kaiser etc.
Replies: >>96227148 >>96227185 >>96228346
some other anon
8/1/2025, 2:10:47 PM No.96227148
>>96227063
Again, depends on language. In French ships don't have prefixes and you often call them "le [Whatever]".

You do that in English too, by the way, albeit informally, e.g. "the Iowa".
Replies: >>96227152
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:11:48 PM No.96227152
>>96227148
Here, now I finally got rid of the stupid name. I swear I wasn't namefagging on purpose. I did it for one post and then forgot.
Not Entirely Anon
8/1/2025, 2:20:52 PM No.96227185
>>96227063

USS The Sullivans. DD-537, Fletcher-class.
Replies: >>96227226 >>96227330 >>96227400 >>96227651 >>96228346 >>96231274
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:26:05 PM No.96227213
>>96223863
>>96223869
Neat. Good work.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:28:14 PM No.96227226
>>96227185
fuck off nobody likes you
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 2:44:51 PM No.96227330
>>96227185
Stick around everybody likes you.
bottom-anon
8/1/2025, 2:57:19 PM No.96227400
>>96227185
please fuck me
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:04:01 PM No.96227445
>>96226794
>>96226865
>>96226881
there was specifically one german liner that was at all times referred to as masculine specifically because kaisar willie demanded it be so on the basis of his autism
Replies: >>96227820 >>96228214
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 3:35:48 PM No.96227651
>>96227185
Yo NEA, how's it going?
Map Campaign Anon
8/1/2025, 3:54:40 PM No.96227737
toulon squadron
toulon squadron
md5: 9eaaa57f20386a3b7e084929e111c98d๐Ÿ”
I hope you're having fun at Gencon, NEA. I saw Leviathans shipments have started going out.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:14:29 PM No.96227820
>>96227445
>you will never be born a king so everyone has to put up with your incredibly retarded shit or they literally risk death

Why even live?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:43:25 PM No.96227953
If 1st SLDF Royal units were only manned by Terran Hegemony natives, I can imagine units like the regiments of the Eridani Light Horse and the 320th Dragoon Regiment would have be cosmopolitan in nature as that was Star League in theory, but how did that work for those who defected from the SLDF from the New Vandenburg uprising until the dissolution of the 1st Star League?

Take the 159th Hussar Regiment that defected to the Taurian Concordat during the New Vandenburg Uprising and became the Red Chasseurs in 2784. I imagine they defected to the Concordat because a good chunk of that SLDF Hussar regiment would have been Concordat natives but if the SLDF is supposed to be a multi-national force, what about 159th Hussar Regiment personnel that didn't come from the Concordat? Were they willing to abandon their homes or did they stick with Kerensky?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 4:48:24 PM No.96227978
10e9239a4626767a9f52c8ce2756ba54.300x300x1
10e9239a4626767a9f52c8ce2756ba54.300x300x1
md5: 0dc095b26a29670bbafd1fd26804c1b7๐Ÿ”
>>96222710
>>96222720
>>96222733
Shuda's interpretations at least were original and looked like they actually compromising on a lot of things to make them work.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:28:17 PM No.96228214
>>96226446
Everyone else already countered with all the applicable arguments =/
>>96226526
>wrong
Even in the past thousand years German has evolved a lot, Teutsch became Deutsch, etc...
>>96226960
Yes, it's my castle and I'll call it what I want, whether that be "Red Balloon 99" or "Manfred's Moving Castle"
>>96227445
And yes, Though IIRC there were two, both named after Kaiser Wilhelm and it would have just been perceived as disrespectful to refer to them in the feminine.
Replies: >>96228594
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:34:12 PM No.96228245
>>96219271
I killed you because you're all crazy motherfuckers, and whenever those wolves show up I'm gonna kill them too.

Fuck your Blake and fuck the Clans, Ward shows up he's gonna catch these hands.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 5:52:48 PM No.96228346
>>96227063
>>96227185
The Sullivans is also the name of an Arleigh Burke DDG
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:31:06 PM No.96228594
>>96228214
>Yes, it's my castle and I'll call it what I want

So long as you do so the correct way using the proper rules of language you are writing in
Replies: >>96228624 >>96228662
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:34:17 PM No.96228624
>>96228594
Rules of language are an evolving thing that change when the people speaking the language start saying things differently.
Dictionaries and Thesaurus's, etc... do not lay down the rules of a language, they record the rules as observed. Rules which do not remain stagnant.
If you subscribe to the bullshit you are peddling than I fully expect you to rite and speak "Ek" instead of "Ich" and to do so in Elder Futhark runes.
Replies: >>96228685
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:38:44 PM No.96228662
>>96228594
>using the proper rules of language
Those rules aren't even consistent across Deutschland, let's not even get into Osterreich, Schweizer and Elsass.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:42:10 PM No.96228685
>>96228624
Watch out with those, don't want to accidentally summon bears in your dropship.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:44:43 PM No.96228703
I like medium mechs the most.
Replies: >>96228721
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 6:47:56 PM No.96228721
>>96228703
Now say it in Elder Futhark
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:06:45 PM No.96228821
What's C-Scale?
Replies: >>96228823
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:08:04 PM No.96228823
1754067860686
1754067860686
md5: 4b0f5a9970455f7fd04c8460f08c8ca8๐Ÿ”
>>96228821
Fuck me forgot pic
Replies: >>96228847 >>96228856 >>96228936
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:11:19 PM No.96228847
>>96228823
The fuck is up with those dice?
Replies: >>96228856 >>96228925
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:12:45 PM No.96228856
>>96228823
The size the bigger Timber Wolf came in for the kickstarter

>>96228847
They're just novelty missile, gun, and laser lens dice for those with more money than sense
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:26:00 PM No.96228925
>>96228847
You don't recognize the eponimous energy crystals which are the ubiquitous form of ammunition in Battletech?
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:29:45 PM No.96228936
>>96228823
Wonder what kind of background fluff you could give to those 100mm mechs if you use those as battlefield objectives. Fuckhueg statue?
Replies: >>96228973
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:35:44 PM No.96228973
>>96228936
Madcat Redentor
Replies: >>96230849
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:45:27 PM No.96229018
Are minis from loot hoarder worth purchasing or is it just 3D printed garbage? Not a lot of reviews on their site but they have uziels readily available
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 7:57:58 PM No.96229088
Need an art of griffin and wovlerine bullying shad.
Paying in exposure.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:06:11 PM No.96229145
>>96222710
>>96222720
>>96222733
Beautiful.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 8:44:19 PM No.96229327
jem1582kwdtsycp7se5kzct01zyr
jem1582kwdtsycp7se5kzct01zyr
md5: 5c657525041d44637ccad6528fb7977b๐Ÿ”
Wut
Replies: >>96229424 >>96230856
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:00:10 PM No.96229424
>>96229327
You confused baboon, this is the battletech general not the catalyst general
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:09:19 PM No.96229482
gencon-display-case-pics-v0-9t7vg3h11bgf1
gencon-display-case-pics-v0-9t7vg3h11bgf1
md5: 8b75cc2ed4f2ecafbad3af6419c9288c๐Ÿ”
I want those Abominations
Replies: >>96229524 >>96230232 >>96230753 >>96230863
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:14:54 PM No.96229524
>>96229482
I want construction rules for those abominations.
Replies: >>96230863
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:19:27 PM No.96229569
>The new AS7-H mixes a heavy energy weapon load in with a hatchet.
>new KGC-0KP mixing PPCs and light blazers in the hands and an AC/20 in the torso โ€“ it feels a lot like a Marauder II.
>a MAD-3H, a very Black Knight feeling variant with four light blazers, a large laser, and a mace.
>a RFL-3B, equipped with two blazer cannons and nowhere near enough heat sinks. Great if you want your โ€˜mech to glow from orbit.
>the PXH-1T, equipped with four medium lasers, a sword, and an SRM 6.
>SCP-1B, slowing it down a touch to upgrade the weapons to a blazer cannon and pair of SRM 6s.
>the FS9-HB, swapping the medium lasers and machine guns out for a pair of light blazers.
>a new UM-R60B, equipped with a pair of heavy machine guns and a blazer cannon.
Holy Blake and blessed Toyama...
Replies: >>96229578 >>96229588
bottom-anon
8/1/2025, 9:20:51 PM No.96229578
>>96229569
what a light blazer?
Replies: >>96229675
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:21:19 PM No.96229588
>>96229569
What the fuck is a light blazer and where are these coming from?
Replies: >>96229675 >>96229687
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:30:37 PM No.96229675
>>96229578
>>96229588
2 tons, 2 crits, 6 heat, 7 damage, 3/6/9 range apparently
Replies: >>96229796 >>96230154
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:31:45 PM No.96229687
>>96229588
It's shorthand for: Variable Speed Heavy Re-engineered Binary Pulse Refocused Laser
Or in GW: Arbitrary Meta Shakeup Device
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:43:58 PM No.96229781
TrenchesMap
TrenchesMap
md5: 6df5dc7de73851940185454919a73a78๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96229831 >>96230871
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:45:38 PM No.96229795
Decals
Decals
md5: e52db335b0665592ff0907eddcb73e9d๐Ÿ”
Decals!
Replies: >>96229818
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:45:52 PM No.96229796
>>96229675
So it's a Blazer made from medium lasers, but technically worse since it gets the full tonnage of two medium lasers and 1.5 times round down damage.
1.5 tons and 8 damage would have been too good I guess. Maybe with fractional accounting it could be 1.8 tons.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:49:04 PM No.96229818
>>96229795
>gothic
>no iron cross
Pathetic.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:50:14 PM No.96229831
>>96229781
30 metre wide trenches is retarded.
Replies: >>96229850
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 9:51:57 PM No.96229850
>>96229831
Anon, there are man sized trenches on the same fucking map. Six blobs of them in fact.
Replies: >>96229941
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:02:14 PM No.96229941
>>96229850
So? Unless those big ones are 3 levels deep they're still retarded.
Replies: >>96230066
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:19:44 PM No.96230066
>>96229941
1 level deep still provides partial cover, and complete cover to prone mechs or hull down quads.
Replies: >>96230107
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:26:24 PM No.96230107
>>96230066
Well, it would only give partial if the enemy is also in a trench. Being elevated negates the penalty, so they're of questionable usefulness.
Replies: >>96230154
bottom-anon
8/1/2025, 10:31:41 PM No.96230154
>>96230107
you are wrong.

>>96229675
IS heavy medium, I guess.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:43:19 PM No.96230232
>>96229482
Is the scale for Gothic still fucked?
Replies: >>96230298
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:51:17 PM No.96230298
IMG_9271
IMG_9271
md5: b1938e78ed703aa9bd5b422f725bc74c๐Ÿ”
>>96230232
yes
Replies: >>96230317 >>96230460 >>96230748 >>96230875 >>96231978
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 10:53:19 PM No.96230317
>>96230298
Shit, I was kind of hoping to use them as Marians.
Replies: >>96230568
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:11:01 PM No.96230460
>>96230298
Does CGL not understand that bases are meant to keep your miniature from falling over?
I like 3D printing mechs mostly for this reason (PGI aesthetics being superior is another) I have scaled my mechs down to 90% of the syllogy files default which keeps all but the largest assaults from overhanging the standard hexbase.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:24:40 PM No.96230554
t13t862ezfgf1
t13t862ezfgf1
md5: e269c1adf8bde9e4c019082c2a16fe9d๐Ÿ”
Replies: >>96230641 >>96231493 >>96233016
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:27:12 PM No.96230568
>>96230317
the base looks the same seems no different than playing with someone with 3d prints to me
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:37:05 PM No.96230641
>>96230554
Why would they make the Empire Alone box a guerrilla fight against Liao and not one of the conflicts that's actually in the book? Like the open war between Andurien and Liao, or the open war between FWL and Wolf Empire, or the open war between that one rich dude and the Marians.
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:54:06 PM No.96230748
>>96230298
Remember when these were announced all the simps arguing that they were the same scale as normal?
Replies: >>96230756 >>96230778 >>96231758
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:54:40 PM No.96230753
>>96229482
>abominations miniatures
YES YES HAHAHA
Replies: >>96230863
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:55:12 PM No.96230756
>>96230748
They are the same scale. A human from both settings would be identical. The gothic mechs are just bigger. Side by side, the standard marauder is shorter than the gothic marauder by at least a few meters.
Replies: >>96230766 >>96230787
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:56:55 PM No.96230766
>>96230756
No, the devs fucking said very clearly that they had to make tgem bigger so the chinese manufacturer could actually make them.
Scale. Creep.
Replies: >>96230780
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:57:55 PM No.96230778
>>96230748
samr scale, differrent size
Replies: >>96231291
Anonymous
8/1/2025, 11:58:08 PM No.96230780
>>96230766
They said they're the same scale. The same way my new Corolla is bigger than my old Corolla. It's literally a bigger car.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:00:17 AM No.96230787
>>96230756
Don't be a retard. There's no reason for mechs of the same weight and make to be just magically 10% bigger.

There's no justification for it; though frankly there doesn't need to be. I'm just not going to buy a specialist gimmick product that's going to look weird next to my 'normal' mechs.

There's a lot of scale fuckery that I allow based on different runs and makes of models; I'm not about to encourage possibly the only company with the control necessary to keep the models relatively consistent for fucking with the consistency of the models.
Replies: >>96230804
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:03:45 AM No.96230804
>>96230787
There are already mechs that are the same weight that are way more than 10% different in size. Banshees tower over almost everything despite not being the heaviest of all mechs.
Replies: >>96230924
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:12:02 AM No.96230849
>>96228973
Our Lady of the PPCs
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:13:07 AM No.96230856
time is a flat circle
time is a flat circle
md5: 7e67cedd76a4a32529bc69b3ba680810๐Ÿ”
>>96229327
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:13:50 AM No.96230863
__vennominaga_the_deity_of_poisonous_snakes_yu_gi_oh_drawn_by_bb_baalbuddy__e2914608e409acb0da7456e328115bf9
>>96229482
>>96229524
>I want construction rules for those abominations.
>>96230753
>YES YES HAHAHA
Abomination Waifus WHEN?!
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:14:48 AM No.96230871
>>96229781
Heavy trenches is actually one of the cases where Mechs would be qualitatively better than vehicles. Neat.

Are the "fires" permanently on fire or something, or is it cosmetic?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:15:49 AM No.96230875
>>96230298
>you
>the marauder she tells you not to worry about
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:24:04 AM No.96230924
>>96230804
That is no excuse for taking models that you make and making another set of models that are supposed to be alternate versions of that model of the same weight and build and then making them wrong on fucking purpose.
Replies: >>96230951 >>96230958 >>96230997 >>96231064
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:29:28 AM No.96230951
>>96230924
>wrong on fucking purpose
They gave us the fucking purpose; They can't mold those details any smaller.
Replies: >>96231153
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:29:49 AM No.96230958
>>96230924
If a person in-universe saw a Marauder, they'd look up at it and say "wow, that's tall!"
If they then turned around and saw a gothic Marauder, they'd say "wow, that's taller! By at least a couple meters! If it wasn't covered in gribbles it would be harder for someone to get to the top of it!"
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:37:32 AM No.96230997
>>96230924
I suspect you are pretending to be stupid for (you)s but in case you aren't: making the war machines bigger is a classic component of dark timeline stuff.
Replies: >>96231023 >>96231153
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:43:49 AM No.96231023
>>96230997
I'm sorry anon; we can go around for hours about the people being too small and the cockpits being too big and the tanks being too squat and the banshee being too tall-- but when I want a fucking Marauder to be the size of another Marauder I'm the fucking retard.
Replies: >>96231069 >>96231080 >>96231153
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:50:50 AM No.96231064
>>96230924
>on fucking purpose.

>implying that catalyst does anything on purpose instead of incompetently scrambling
Replies: >>96231153
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:52:09 AM No.96231069
>>96231023
I agree they shouldn't be bigger and I'd much prefer if they weren't. But they are, in-universe, bigger. That doesn't make them a different scale. If they were supposed to be bigger in-unverse and then the model was the same size, that would actually make them a different scale.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 12:54:15 AM No.96231080
>>96231023
Yes, you are
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:09:21 AM No.96231153
>>96230951
>>96230997
>>96231023
>>96231064
The last one here has it.
The scale increase was not a purposeful design choice by CGL, all of your cope is so much bullshit.
They intended them to be the same scale as regular product but were told "no, cannot be done"
Which makes the change a scale issue.
no amount of sucking corporate cock will change the facts.
Replies: >>96231167
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:11:26 AM No.96231167
>>96231153
>They intended them to be the same scale as regular product but were told "no, cannot be done"
Then they shouldn't have made them. No product is better than bad product.
Replies: >>96231237
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:24:50 AM No.96231237
>>96231167
They shouldn't have made them for a number of reasons and they know it, which is why it wasn't kickstarted.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:31:54 AM No.96231274
>>96227185
Fuckin historical nerds. Go refight waterloo or Gettysburg with gorgeous terrain and leave us in peace to slinging shit over arguments we have had multiple times. Alternatively teach us how to do Waterloo with mechs.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:36:12 AM No.96231291
>>96230778
I don't know why everyone is still getting shitty about the miniature size when it's literally similar to the size difference between a space marine and a guardsman.
Replies: >>96231376
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:46:16 AM No.96231342
anybody see where the last uploads went?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 1:54:51 AM No.96231376
>>96231291
Space marine and guardsman are different units, marauder vs marauder is the same unit, fucking retard.
Replies: >>96231431 >>96231597
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:09:50 AM No.96231431
>>96231376
Marauder (main timeline) and Marauder (gothic timeline) are different units though.
Replies: >>96231476 >>96231607
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:18:37 AM No.96231476
>>96231431
No, they are not.
bottom-anon
8/2/2025, 2:23:58 AM No.96231493
>>96230554
For Scouring Sands:
9 high-quality, fully assembled (unpainted) miniatures; seven BattleMechs and two vehicles, including two new redesigned miniatures, the Thunderbolt IIC and Fulcrum Hovertank, and six all-new variants, in new poses.
- Thunderbolt IIC
- Summoner H
- Howler 6
- Bane 3
- Rifleman C 2
- Locust IIC 4
- Marauder IIC 6
- 2 x Fulcrum Hovertank
40-page Rulebook
70-page campaign book with 22 scenarios
paper log sheets
21 Alpha Strike Cards
8 Pilot Cards
70 Aces cards (11 decks)
10 Commander cards (2 decks)
12 Edge Ability cards
12 Battlefield Support Asset cards
1 heavy-stock reference sheets
10 large fold-up cardstock hills
1 punchboard sheet of counters
1 3-D punchboard bridge
8 punchboard river tiles
Replies: >>96231517
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:30:21 AM No.96231517
Spheroids receive a volley from a Bane 3
Spheroids receive a volley from a Bane 3
md5: d8a80d6749b13224be5030aca594f6f7๐Ÿ”
>>96231493
>bane 3

Hooray!

Now, Nova Cat B when?
Replies: >>96231570
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:45:10 AM No.96231570
>>96231517
Ragic.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:53:06 AM No.96231597
>>96231376
How many mechs does the Gothic Marauder miniature represent?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 2:54:48 AM No.96231607
>>96231431
Well no, going by the Gothic timeline it'd be the same chassis regardless of ornamentation.
Replies: >>96231678
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:13:47 AM No.96231678
>>96231607
I forget, did they goth it up before or after the Mackie? Are there old ungreebled mechs?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:36:10 AM No.96231758
>>96230748
Why are people freaking out about scale in a game that's perfectly acceptable to play with tokens, standees, and literally anything that fits on the correct base? You're all height 2 man, it doesn't matter.
It's not like they're twice the size or something either.
Replies: >>96231787 >>96232183 >>96232222 >>96232254 >>96232391
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 3:45:29 AM No.96231787
>>96231758
Double size is a lot less than double height, they're actually not far off of being double size.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 4:42:22 AM No.96231978
>>96230298
Good. Gothic is AU nonsense and it should be incompatible with real Battletech
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:46:33 AM No.96232183
>>96231758
If you show up to my table with anything other than fully painted miniatures I will slap you.
Replies: >>96232194
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:48:51 AM No.96232194
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f11becdc439853cf48d84567143808ef68d34d0b
md5: 785df824c7173260ad87ceac671dc351๐Ÿ”
>>96232183
They haven't made the best designs into miniatures yet though.
Replies: >>96232227
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:54:34 AM No.96232222
>>96231758
This. People still play old metals with the new plastic and dont care. The only different is the awful style.
Replies: >>96232254
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:55:12 AM No.96232225
>>96217228
Just be happy you got him into it.
I can't help the fact you think a man in armour is peak mech design that's a you problem.

>>96217362
Your friend is right. If he gave a shit enough to look at Sarna and look at the companies that made the game he'd feel very proud of himself.

>>96217421
>Code GEASS and Eureka 7
Well.
>He then declared the franchise dog shit.
I mean some of the series are but...
He has shit taste but, he's still right about mechs being ugly as shit, they have been redesigning them, and the setting being retarded.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 5:55:45 AM No.96232227
>>96232194
I am a fan of the Flashduck
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:01:55 AM No.96232254
Full Dark Age
Full Dark Age
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>>96231758
>>96232222

Maybe people remember the last time they tried a major scale change and tried to kill the regular game?
Replies: >>96232264 >>96232270
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:03:45 AM No.96232264
>>96232254
Did they change the size or shape of the Hex Base?
No?!
Then it plays.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:04:33 AM No.96232270
>>96232254
DA didnt have any scale whatsoever that shit was a free for all.
Replies: >>96232278
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:05:16 AM No.96232278
>>96232270
>DA didnt have any scale whatsoever
It was N-scale. How good they hewed to that varied.
Replies: >>96232342
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:29:48 AM No.96232342
>>96232278
Guys, someone needs to make a new thread. I did 3 out of the last 4, so someone else needs to.
Replies: >>96232351 >>96232388
bottom-anon
8/2/2025, 6:33:01 AM No.96232351
>>96232342
bottom-anon appreciation day thread?
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:46:53 AM No.96232388
>>96232342
You know why? Because if you haven't made a thread before on your current IP they make you wait 5 minutes.
So wait 5 minutes and I'll make it.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:47:51 AM No.96232391
>>96231758
The larger models can legitimately impede playing the game. When the models hang off the hex base, they also overflow the hexes on the map.
This isn't really a problem in, say, AS, but CBT it's pretty annoying.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:51:31 AM No.96232408
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>>96232402
>>96232402
>>96232402
new
Replies: >>96232410
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:52:45 AM No.96232410
>>96232408
Good job, now there's two.
Replies: >>96232417
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:53:56 AM No.96232417
>>96232410
And neither of them have a subject line because it ate mine after telling me I have to wait 300 seconds. They fucked posting so badly with these retarded wait times.
Replies: >>96232421 >>96232422
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:54:57 AM No.96232421
>>96232417
But whatever, it let me delete it. The mullet will just have to wait for next time.
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:55:09 AM No.96232422
>>96232417
I deleted mine, delete yours too and one of us can make a new one with the subject line
Replies: >>96232428
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:56:21 AM No.96232428
>>96232422
We both deleted it.
Okay, I'll make mine again. Please confirm so we don't do this twice. This is dumb enough already.
Replies: >>96232432
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:57:42 AM No.96232432
>>96232428
Go ahead lancemate
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:58:16 AM No.96232433
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Anonymous
8/2/2025, 6:59:48 AM No.96232437
>>96232435
>>96232435
>>96232435
Shoo
Anonymous
8/2/2025, 9:31:17 AM No.96233016
>>96230554
I just want the decks of cards , the aces system. I already got a giant pile of mechs. I just want to automate cool fights between them without ME interjecting myself and fudging the numbers and shit.