Post Gencon edition

>Build Divide
>Force of Will
>Final Fantasy TCG
>DBZ CCG
>Wixoss
>Keyforge
>Gundam
>Legend of the 5 Rings (L5R)
>Digimon
>Flesh and Blood
>Gate Ruler
>Battle Spirits
>Ashes
>One Piece
>The other DBZ game
>Sorcery
>Doomtown
>Warlord
>Magi Nation
>Lord of the Rings
>Neopets
>The Condemned CCG
>Grand Archive TCG
>Disney Lorcana
>Hubworld: Aidalon
>Earthborne Games
>Riftbound
etc.

Post about card games you've played and help other anons get to know your games!

Pastebin/Rules for some games
>Wixoss
https://pastebin.com/LC8SpttH
>FoW
https://pastebin.com/aGEBEKeF
>Dragonball GT SD
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Pj_0YeUXI5g4XyKwbAXJuZCGt3qWJwyp
>Gate Ruler
https://pastebin.com/nbcZP0nB
>Build Divide
https://pastebin.com/1cQT2pkz
>FaB
https://rentry.org/oypcs
>Ashes Reborn
https://pastebin.com/2jr0EG9S
>Netrunner
https://pastebin.com/g3yQAQ7w
>Fusion World
https://www.dbs-cardgame.com/fw/pdf/rules/fw_OfficialRule_Manual_en_v1.00_2.pdf
>Various Japanese CCGs without western translation (page is in moonrunes)
http://card.g1.xrea.com/tcg/catalog.html
>The Condemned CCG
https://pastebin.com/Liu2E7Rq

voice chat for playing /acg/
https://discord.gg/rCQFKcGcEP

>Previous Thread
>>96222440

>Thread Question
What's your underdog card, the one card you want to make work in a deck?

>TQ
Tried to make this one work as a pseudo-Haste strategy alongside another card that activates Backups so I have consistent 10k attack and defense. Couldn't make it work, the game just advanced too far and moved too fast for it to pan out.

>>96254561 (OP)
So are we going to have Char and Quattro memes when the Zeta set comes out or

>>96254561 (OP)
Is Mimi appropriate for a kid's game?

>>96254561 (OP)
>TQ
Picrel. You're going to lose the game for having the audacity to even try this, but if you win it's going to look incredible.

>>96255046
What kinda dumb question is this

>>96255201
anon has an armpit fetish

I just learned that three years ago today, it was announced that there were plans to bring Duel Masters to other parts of Asia (Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, Taiwan, Hong Kong).
As far as I can tell, no more news on those plans has come out since. I wonder if they're still planning on doing that...
I wonder if they're planning on bringing it world-wide.

should I play RG char rush and cope ill get char
or do I run GW wing breach and cope ill not get blown out by RG char rush or my own incompetence.

Ive only played 5 games total irl.

>>96255586
RG rush is a highroll deck. If you're a gambling man, play it.

>>96255774
at least that way I can blame my loss on luck and not sucking at the game

Anyone else seen ads or heard of this game Ariokan?
>inb4 buy an ad
No, this game looks like shit. Don't support this trash. It's a TCG where players make the cards; sounds like a nightmare. How do you even do a game like this in the first place? Surprise surprise I can't even find a how to play guide or rules. I hate how many pump and dump TCGs are being advertised these days.

What scam ACGs have you seen? Have any stood out as actually looking decent/interesting?

>>96256251
looks like a ai phone game.

>>96256251
buy an ad

>>96256251
>AI
The worst part about AI is the fucking spam. How were there no endless hordes of low effort stick figure spams before AI?

>>96254561 (OP)
Mimi!

I bring you definitive proof flesh and blood PVE exists.

Enter: Bonus Stage - Beat up the Car

>>96257359
An event back in 2020 was hosted at a newzealand event where players could attempt to beat the shit out of a 100 life total target, and if the succeeded they were awarded a special promo from Arcane Rising.

>>96257370
The car's primary defense mechanism was the four car doors. These would be added as blocking cards when drawn after launching an attack.

>>96257383
woops I got that reversed on the image selection. The car doors shown here, and then above the dents that would prevent additional damage on top of it.

>>96257391
Lastly 8 nothing happens cards, making the deck ration 8/12 for do nothing verses stop damage.

This was a fascinating look at the very first prototype for PVE in flesh and blood, which actually does exist, despite LSS not sharing anything about it.

>>96257359
Did you make this shit? And having to deal 100 HP by the third turn is pretty wild.

>>96257455
Are you daft? It's printed back in 2020 and is signed by James White.

So yeah, I edited this in photoshop just for /acg/ to lose their marbles over, then I'll pull a bait and switch and call you dunces for believing it was real.

>>96257359
>>96257370
>>96257383
>>96257391
>>96257400
>a goofy minigame from a very early event
Which was then memed to death by fucking reddit and made into a bigger deal than it was ever supposed to be. Even worse, the company made the mistake of listening, doing some exploratory design (that has since been put on ice), and then ADMITTING IT. Never admit to doing anything in game development until you're ready to ship.

The only reason you're posting this shit is to create more "PVE PROMISED FUCKFAB AIEEEE" by causing casual onlookers to believe incorrect things.

>>96257481
Why do you expect people to recognise that guy's signature? And considering the absolute seething that FAB tends to generate here, yes actually I would expect the local fuckfabber retard to do something like this.

>>96257499
It's not my fault you're a dumbass that couldn't notice a signed card in two images and ask if a fan made this

>>96257518
Fabgots really do consider the game's devs to be super stars, don't they?

Losing your minds over something that was literally prefaced in the first post. >>96257359
You guys never critically think about what you're saying, you just immediately jump to hating on the game. Every time.

>>96257533
And you think yourself pretty keen, don't you?

>>96257539
No, they never read anything or comprehend why they hate it; they just simply want to fuck it.

Proof that fuckfab is nothing but bandwagon memespouting tourists. This beat up the car pve deck existed for five years, was discussed a lot since then, and they still think this is out of the blue fan made. You guys keep elevating your bloodpressure over this and you will have a aneurysm.

One of the reasons early fab was likened to fighting games is because they took direct inspiration from them from the beginning.

>>96257580
>>96257370
>set on the coastline, even same orientation
Soul

Posting about other PVE games to share positivity for the concept

Ashes PVE is really nice and highly approachable, even starting off with casual players that stick to the Reborn Core. Just buy the boss box, grab your deck and you're ready to play. This really felt like a CPU Ashborn was squaring up against you, with some home-turf advantage and a coded personality. The gameplay for Ashes is always satisfying, my group and I had fun fighting Red Rains for those 5 play sessions we spent with it. There's plenty of annoying or threatening things that popped up from time to time, but I made quick work of those as they surfaced. There were instances where I was able to have the right answer on hand for them, but I found there would be effects on the board that could thwart my ability to respond if only they happened out of sequence or I was a card short. Once I got the boss attack pattern down good I found elevating the difficulty didn't really put a dent in my win record. One thing I would've liked to have seen is a way to add a more randomization to titan deck setup. This way you don't precisely know what you're facing off against, which could lead to some surprising legsweeps. I would love to take on more Titans in the future to see how any of this differs, but alas I haven't dove all-in yet, as it can be a little expensive to do so. I can recommend it, almost certainly would say it is better with more people but nothing is lost from the experience by playing true solo.

I did play this thing solo with a precon and just mopped the fucking floor with it. Dinosaur Ashborn is amazing against the dragon; it felt like this wasn't even a contest just pure laying her out flat.

>>96254850
nobody that plays gundam tcg has actually watched any gundam
every reference will bounce right off them

>>96257917
The UC, in particular, is pretty impenetrable at times. Lots of people have seen some combination of the recent AUs and maybe Unicorn but never gotten anywhere near Zeta/CCA.

>>96257917
The game has references?

>>96257917
It's unfortunate that a lot of people won't get it, but I was just at an event on Sunday where one of the other players had a HG they were building while they waited, so not all of them are going to be retarded.

>>96258141
Of course.

>>96258141
the front cover of the first set (and by extension the art on the og gundam card included in the set) is the pose the gundam makes when it destroys the first zaku in episode 1, literally everything from poses to unit link requirements to the scenarios portrayed in the command card artwork reference the shows in some way

>>96258312
>>96258141
It's too simplistic mechanically to have crazy strong theme but there's lots of small subtle touches, like Zeon being an aggro faction or RX-78 handing out aura buffs or Char refusing to stay dead.

>>96257885

That deck is so good. I don't remember which Chimera pack has the upgrade cards for his magic type, but I hope they gave Dino Dan some nice deck building options.

>>96257917
>>96257917
it's not my fault the OG Gundam series is dreadfully boring. Couldn't even make it through 3 episodes.

you guys realize i did quit fab for real this time right? no need to keep posting about it

>>96258605
Oh really? Do tell us about that. Where did you start your collection? What have you done with that collection now that you're out of fab? What would need to change to make you come back?

>>96258090
I've only watched the original one, and the game is making me interested in the rest of the series.

>>96258379
A sure sign of a small brain.

>>96258379
Try the movie remakes, it does a lot to help with the early pacing.

Every day I come here I feel like I accidentally walked into /m/ territory

>>96254589
fftcg has new artworks now? I thought it was all screenshot

>>96258806
>Oh really?
Yes really
>Where did you start your collection?
WTR but i found out about the game post dinasty launch
>What have you done with that collection now that you're out of fab?
Nothing yet, ESL-kun
>What would need to change to make you come back?
LSS to stop kicking the can down the road, and a proper poorfag format

>>96257917
the only reason Im playing gundam is because Ive seen every series.
My sleeves for next set btw.

I'm interested in Wixoss for the cute girls, but does the gameplay hold up?

>>96260184
The whole deal with Wixoss is it's a shockingly serious game despite the aesthetic.

>>96254561 (OP)
Not really a card, but for vs ive put some time into morlocks otk and ai stall that plays like mkko. they're both pretty bad affiliations, fragile and inconsistent

>>96260184
Yeah, you can try it on the emulator now too

It's different than most games because how cloth (shield) works with how you can get a "free" attack every turn

>>96260890
I was just going to grab a starter deck for me and a friend since they're cheap, any recommendations? I like playing control/combo/burn more than aggro.

>>96257917
Like 90% of the people at the first gundam tcg locals at my LGS were gundam fans with the last few being crossovers from other bandai games

>>96261259
Mine is similar but something funny is that i encountered a japanese player for the first time playing gundam as opposed to the 3 years i've been playing yugioh

>>96259868
>>Oh really?
>Yes really
No way!
>>Where did you start your collection?
>WTR but i found out about the game post dinasty launch
You came after Dynasty to collect WTR and up? Crazy. Must have really wanted to play Guardian, Warrior or Brute. Who did you try and build?
>>What have you done with that collection now that you're out of fab?
>Nothing yet, ESL-kun
Sell the whole thing as a collection. Waiting for all your singles to get adopted will take over-long. Make a stack of all the hits you've ever pulled and host an image of all of those spread out. You'll get an offer in no time.
>>What would need to change to make you come back?
>LSS to stop kicking the can down the road, and a proper poorfag format
I can only guess what you mean by that. Like them not realizing the games true potential? Yeah we're past that as of the 5yr mark. Game's still growing horizontally but not really reaching out vertically.

On the cheaper side I think Project Natty Ice is going to attempt to broach that subject. I mean they had what seemed to me to be a positive response, and then they stopped testing it. I guess that means they're happy to launch it and let it take on a life of its own.

>>96261461
The cheaper / more beginner friendly formats so far have been ruined for me by the 2 card per deck limit rule. Project blue should have 3 cards per deck, otherwise I'm not predicting a bright future for that either.
It'll also need a lenghty ban list too.

>>96260184
its the best designed game on the marked core rules wise easily.
>>96261148
The starters are "ok". The games cheap enough you could just tcgpkayer topping lists from the main site or last GP and have fun with those.

>>96260030
>next set includes Zeta
>shows off sleeves with ZZ art
NGMI

>>96262075
she shows up first in Zeta so im hoping she gets a card anyway (dif outfit prob)

>>96257917
I'm only playing because I'm a Gundam fan and I'm pre-ordering boxes of the 2nd set entirely because they have the balls to add X so early

>>96261461
>I can only guess what you mean by that. Like them not realizing the games true potential?

This exactly, a game that has many uses for every card should not be decided by playing the card with the highest number, i hate that the pitch system fell into this game and it's absurd cycle where they're releasing either parasitic design sets or undercooked mechanics and leaving you constantly waiting for the second part

I wish there was something bigger than capital letters for this one:
FUCKFAB

(the unmarked box has UPR and CRU)

>>96263271
Reminder that LSS was founded by guys who used to run a yugioh singles shop.
These guys have always been using the Konami school of design. Individual heroes are archetypes, and the card pools everyone focuses on(class/talent) are mostly a mirage.

>>96263271
This is precisely where FAB peaked. OUTSIDERS was the last well thought out set (six heroes) for both limited and its impact on constructed.

Don't get me wrong, I fucking loved Bright Lights, but it was the solidifying of the main issues with the game; half baked heroes that die waiting for a part 2 to their move pool.

Interestingly Bryan Gottmilk got invovled with Dynasty and took the reigns with Out, but by the very next set they changed course and slipped off the ledge.

>>96263271
following that box order HNT should go below ROS fuckanon

>>96263710
You came in too late to figure out like the rest of us that Dynasty was weaksauce and the original Arakni is all you need to talk about regarding terrible design still waiting for more to this day. Monarch/Uprising/Part the Mistveil is just more of the same pushed hero nonsense as it's always been.

>>96263815
I see. While I don't necessarily agree with that assessment I get what you're saying. There was honestly more value in Dynasty outside of assassin. The set was fun to open and the idea of an imperial precession turning into a murder-fuck fest was cool. We got unique weapons from the emperor's vault as well as interesting side-grades for all the classes, plus blitz gets a badass dual class for the first time in fab's history and a fascinating one at that. I think people weren't around long enough to know what it felt like to have a new class core drop, wtr & arc; so assassin releasing in that state was honestly fine. It was followed up in OUT with a much more interesting approach and that's the kind of 'sin that's been sticking around over Huntsman.*cough*Flick Knives.

Dusk till Dawn was the one that left a bad taste in everyone's mouth. It was wanking off one set from the past that many people felt was a terrible direction for the game at the time, talent siloing. The NuPrism was fucking rejected on launch and everyone thought Vynnie was a pushover as well.

Then later we got Mech set, which was absolutely needed but in truth a lot sooner in development than Bright Lights fell. However, the set idea was all well and good, the problem was it just got left in the dust to ramp up towards talent domination, again. Evos are fucking cool.

I give Heavy a pass because I really liked the set in limited and constructed, but its heroes are kind of a joke of the now commonplace hero design that pervades the company today. Now Victor and to a lesser extent Kayo are the only winners since then, which is ironic given picture related being a thing that did happen in fab's history. A warrior actually did something significant.

Flash forward to today and we have come full circle back around to the arena focused set, and the design directions that have been twisting the game in a direction that's anti-venerable player is in full force with Super Slam.

All this gundam talk is urging me to finally go back and continue watching ZZ and finish the UC series. It did nothing wrong, my 'tism just has trouble picking things back up if I stop regularly watching/reading something.

>TQ
She's got a cool effect (Can move an energy to another member and +50 with enough Myth members in the discard) and a cool gameplan that works thanks to Kiara but her damage, despite being high for the type of card she is, is still poor compared to 2nd Stages. More support cannot come soon enough.

>>96262075
How do you feel that the EXVS games consider qubeley to be a ZZ suit?

>>96254561 (OP)
tasogare mimi my beloved

>>96264582
Mimi love

another day of nobody talking about rush of ikorr...

>>96265703
I'd actually play it but I don't have friends that will just try stuff on a whim with me like that.

>>96264582
>>96265604
tits too big

New guy at my LGS asking about playing old DBZ Score game. He has decks, all pre-panini, and will be hosting an event for interested folks soon.

I've been waiting so long for someone else to play with. In b4 he bails.

>>96265839
If he bails you play doctor and make a housecall

Good luck

>>96265703
I googled Rush of Ikorr and the only thing I found was that apparently Lorcana stole the game

>>96266265
Is it not the reverse?

>>96266455
apparently the designer worked on Rush, quit, moved to ravensburger, repackaged the idea as Lorcana, all before Rush got published, so the owners of Rush sued him.

>>96266471
Correct. I have a feeling the reason ROI is so bland is because they couldn't keep the original design they started out with. I have no idea how it plays though so if it is anything like Lorcana's ink well lands I don't know.

>>96266265
>>96266455
https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/58997/upper-deck-will-release-tcg-mentioned-2023-disney-lorcana-lawsuit
You don't remember this?

>>96267055
And Didknee got off easy, like we all knew they would.

>>96267055
Honestly thought this was a crock of shit until I demoed Ikorr and it's exactly the same fucking game, just you can attack active units and lore sits on units for a turn before you score

>>96265703
>>96267223
As one of the few people who have opened boxes and played with it, this game is fucking DOA. There was basically no interest at GenCon despite the constant advertisements - they even put themselves on the lanyards. I went to their booth on Thursday and they were basically begging me to sign up. On Sunday, they basically gave away all the free demo decks to people who were working other booths because they expected more people to show up.

I think the game is fine even, and the art is sweet, but Upper Deck can't advertise and their reputation isn't exactly great, plus the kerfuffle surrounding the game has leant it to be the butt of jokes.

It's not particularly similar, since you also have a commander and Lorcana does not. It just uses the same basic goals (harvest resource with dudes to win game), but plenty of other games have used similar systems, like Keyforge (which is more similar to ROI than Lorcana).

what are some unique tcg?

>>96265839
Fuck yeah, bro. Definitely keep us updated if you get some games in.

You know the thing that pisses me off about One Piece is they never made Don with different effects. Could have been an interesting mechanic to explore but instead they made it boring as fuck like everything else in that game.

>>96267805
it would be lame as hell, massively imbalanced, either automatic 4-of (or whatever maximum) or so dogshit it never gets used, insanely swingy depending on whether you hit it at the right time or not, and lead to rampant accusations of don deck stacking and insufficient shuffling.

I get the feeling we're going to see a lot of convenient last life bases in the inevitable Gundam webcam regionals.

>>96267284
I was at gen con and walked past the stuff. Game looked like it fucking sucked IMO. More people were there for Neopets from what I could tell.

>>96257885
if you're gonna do it get one of the other PVE boxes. they're each a little different. the zombie horde one is really good.

>>96258365
his thematic expansion shit is in the divine set. there's another dinosaur herder with a pet pterasaur and some support spells. he can also use the nature one without leaving his precon magic colors and that has a dino too.

>>96268270
>his thematic expansion shit is in the divine set. there's another dinosaur herder with a pet pterasaur and some support spells. he can also use the nature one without leaving his precon magic colors and that has a dino too.
Fuck yes, I'll put both those sets on my wishlist now. Dunno which one the zombie hoard is but I can look it up. I recall seeing the Pterasaurs posted here and they're really neato.

>Managed to pull Pekora's oshi card on my 2nd box
Man, there went my luck for the rest of the year.

Riftbound is apparently comming to cardmarkt
https://news.cardmarket.com/en/Magic/riftbound-is-coming-to-cardmarket2
This means the game might not be DoA, since people won't need to dredge through discords and facebooks groups to get the cards they need.

>>96268985
OSR or OUR? If it's the latter than pour one out for your luck.

>>96264271
Heavy is probably my all time favorite FaB set ngl

>>96270176
It was the OSR, but even still my luck isn't very good as is. So the fact that I actually got the card I wanted means I probably shouldn't buy anymore packs.

>>96270193
There are sets that feel like core sets, for me it's
>WTR
>ARC
>CRU
>HVY
>ROS
>SEA

which means nothing competent has been released for ice, illusionist or assasin, but i think the game would be better without the assasin class altogether, so what do i know

>>96267284
>There was basically no interest at GenCon despite the constant advertisements - they even put themselves on the lanyards. I went to their booth on Thursday and they were basically begging me to sign up. On Sunday, they basically gave away all the free demo decks to people who were working other booths because they expected more people to show up.

We walked by on Sunday and they forced a demo deck into our hands. They didn't even say anything, they just wanted to not have the decks anymore.

>>96268174
The demo decks were fucking atrocious. I can't speak to the full game but the demo decks they gave us were so hilariously imbalanced that we spent half an hour looking up rules online to make sure we hadn't missed something major that enabled the weaker deck to even play the game against the stronger deck.

The demo decks also included a leader with an ability that was literally unusable with the cards in its own deck, which just makes it seem like they rushed these out the door. For a game that's been in development for like 7 years or something?

Anyways, we walked past the main display area for the game in the exhibit hall, and got to see all the cards. One of our big takeaways was that none of the cards made us want to own them, visually. Like all the art is "fine", it's all solid, it looks good. But none of it is like, wow, I want this on a playmat, I want to own this card. But it's dragged down by weak frames, and there's not (from what we could see or find online) any kind of chase variants, full art frames, etc to punch it up.

The generic historical/mythical fantasy theme also doesn't help, it all just looks like stuff you've seen ten thousand times before, even as you look at it for the first time. I almost wonder if regular historical would've been more appealing than historical/mythical fantasy; like maybe there's a market for Ashigaru vs Hoplites that doesn't exist for Yokai vs the Hydra.

>>96270327
As sad as I am about the Wizards of ROS feeling like off-brand Runeblades, structurally and philosophically it's just about the best set we've ever had.
Instead of a pile of ultra limited cards that only one hero will ever conceivably play, ROS expands Lightning and Earth in a meaningful way that is open enough to be applicable to future heroes. Compare to something like Draconic which, even after 2 sets, is still a confused mess.

Roughly a third of the way there. I'm expecting more steel songs since they gave us big Ariel.

Reprint Pride Rock you cowards!

>>96270375
>I almost wonder if regular historical would've been more appealing
I vaguely remember a shitty cash grab TCG that the History Channel (burgerland TV channel) made back when I was a kid, but that could have been a fever dream for all I know. It looked neat but even as a kid I knew playing a game tied to the fucking history channel was a bad idea.

>>96270685
ong frfr nocap sigma skibidi toilet rizz

>haven't followed Netrunner in years, decide to see what's been happening lately
>null signal started putting runner's pronouns onto cards
>they still can't figure out how to balance the game
>all the corps play the same because the xhe/xir runners are overpowered and the only viable win con is flatlining them
How fucking grim. What a sad way to go for what used to be such an amazing game.

>>96270891
You see, the purpose of games is to EDUCATE and raise CRITICAL CONSCIOUSNESS in order to TRANSFORM Our World.
The runners have to be better because they represent rebellion, which we identify as (#resist). If the corp were strong, then our game would send the message that capitalism is good and we must #resist that by any means necessary.
A game is never just a game, it is instead a Site of Political Struggle.

>>96270763
wait until you find out about italian brainrot TCG, it plays very similar to fab lol

>>96270986
>wait until you find out about fab, it plays very similar to fab
huh?

>>96270891
Wow awesome anon congrats on catching up! Here's a cookie for your awesome post! Omedetou!!!

>>96271230
Is that the dog version of Gandalf in the end?
wtf

>>96271245
If it's a pound he's probably the oldest stray if it's someone's house that's the uncle tom, the owner's dog.

>>96271230
Thanks, I aim for 100% VIP QUALITY on all my posts.

>>96270763
Yeah that's the one. Thanks anon.

>>96270593
Oh nice, they kept giant Alice. I've been meaning to make a deck featuring her one day.

>>96271983
looking forward to purple being OP and causing the first ban
you'd think after making the same tcg half a dozen times in a row they'd stop making the same mistake

>>96270685
The game was pretty unique and interesting, at least. More akin to a proto-LCG than a TCG because packs were fixed and sold in packages of 5, which conveniently was the same size as a whole "deck". Different formats allowed varying degrees of flexibility of how to mix and match cards. Hardly a cash grab in comparison to other stuff on the market.

>>96270375
>>96268174
The demo decks are actually quite bad, but I found that the main game was quite interesting and varied. Played what amounted to full-box sealed with a friend with three different avatars each. The customizable plastic inserts are hit or miss in terms of whether or not they add to the game, but they certainly help make certain cards that are "balanced for draft" more playable and can be tailored to your avatar's overall strategy. Some quite clear identities in colors and some cool thematic stuff; my favorite was all of the blue Egyptian cards revolving around constructing monuments which, over the course of the game, gave you a lot of inevitability to winning the game that the opponent had to outrace. Jaguar Warrior tribal is also a cool aggro deck that I jived with thematically. I agree that the thematics aren't exactly interesting nor are the frames particularly great but I find most of the problems with the game come from the people who are responsible for product design not understanding the product itself. It's marketed as a 3v3 game for some ungodly reason, but its product lineup doesn't even push that; they published 4 starter decks and there's barely enough cards in a box to cobble together 3 decks, let alone 6. The marketing does nothing to highlight the interesting parts of the game nor do they seem interested in properly marketing the game (doesn't help that the super-super rare foil treatment looks fucking awful), so it's DOA and will forever remain a footnote.

>>96272905
>It's marketed as a 3v3 game for some ungodly reason
Blame Commander.

>>96271983
>purple is the same shit it always is
Damn, even setting aside balance you'd think they would eventually do LITERALLY ANYTHING ELSE with the color spread of core mechanics.

>>96254561 (OP)
>TQ
40k Conquest. It was so good, and killed by GW licensing bullshit, plus being an LCG.

Looks like a full set isn't terribly expensive these days, from a cursory glance. Maybe I'll pick one up and throw together some decks for board game nights (or realistically to sit in my closet).

Did anyone see Warlord at Gencon? Where are they even posting updates? Their Xitter hasn't updated since June of last year, and their website has fuck all.

I wish the company had even a tiny bit of competence and were marketing the game, instead of basically shadow launching it a year after they said they would.

>>96271983
Do we have official statements of what each color gameplay is supposed to do or is all based on player's comments?

>>96271983
>purple is trash as a second hand cancer
this shit is ALWAYS broken in every Bandai game

>>96270685
if you're talking about anachronism, that game was 1000x better than it had any right to be and you missed out

>>96273266
I didn't and I was definitely looking for it

>>96268315
I think the zombie horde enemy deck was also the divine one with the extra dinosaurs so that works out

>>96273752
>>96273266
Warlord had a play area set up not far from the Riftbound demo area, alongside Ghost Galaxy Games and Sorcery on the far end. As far as I can tell they were doing fine, met a few people who had some product, but I didn't look too strongly to see if there were any actual updates. They definitely existed, though.

>>96273749
I dunno how Bandai's other games work, but it's not exclusive to purple in this game.

Just learned about MetaZoo...

>>96273752
Yeah it was the one here >>96270763
What made it good if you don't mind me asking?

i love pairing m'quve with zeon units to make them extra gay.

I WILL be making a purple green deck with custom daily dose sleeves. thanks doc

>>96274417
gameplay was just really snappy and tactical. positional game on a little grid. different matchups were interesting.
it got by with really small decks. just a few cards per player.

There was a HoloOCG stream and Hoo boy there was news.

>More info on Kanata and Marine starter decks
>Set 5 info, some new Noel cards, revealing that there are returning members will show up in different colors (pic related, Suisei is now a red comet), and a new potential draw staple in SorAZ celebration
>Comiket collab announced
>PR Pack talk and tournament things
>Something about VJump and alt versions of upcoming cards
>FlowGlow Starter Decks (Riona and Niko)

>>96267913
100% of webcam play is how good a cheater you are and its a joke format.

>>96270375
>maybe there's a market for Ashigaru vs Hoplites that doesn't exist for Yokai vs the Hydra.
I really liked this about wizkids pirates until the disney Caribbean tie in shit Id play the fuck out of a historical tcg

>>96268315
>>96258365
for ashes I think the player decks for the new starter box are all spoiled now too
but weirdly they havent shown the time chimera box which is supposed to come out before it (?). hopefully shit didn't get cancelled.

>new cards
the flying ice axe captain is the best card in there by a lot. but the new summon creatures aren't bad. and there's PB damage prevention in both colors which is kinda big I think, idk there's not a lot of that in the game.

>>96275102
I don't get camera play. Are they not using chatbots to manage hands/hidden areas and drawing cards? Is that just not a thing? Zero researched because I have no interest in playing a physical game online and I've only heard complaints.

>>96271983
it's insane how no one's reacting to supression as a keyword. it'll give RG aggro the juice it needs to close games faster.
>>96272838
it ultimately depends on how potent the effects units gain when damaged are. recursion from graveyard is not a new thing here.

>>96275295
Why would that be a thing? webcam play is not as complicated as people here make out. I think they're just inept.
>cheating
most webcam is played with everything in frame. so it's obvious if you do some shit. but it's also not really for competitive. that's what apps are for, since the entire game state can be played back and verified.

>>96255774
>mfw pulled C+ Char from Beta, then the Zeon starter deck from random chance at my LGS's event
Fate decided I'd be a gambler and who am I to deny it at this point. Ended up ordering a second Marisa Cruz single too so I can have more odds of a Krish link

When is gundam getting reprinted so I can actually deck build without shitty scalper prices for singles

>>96270891
I hate how they did the same shit with VTES too. V5 anarchs were overpowered as fug with the best free actions available in the whole game. If they actually said something like >>96270982 it would make me at the very least respect them a tiny amount for owning up to their shit, especially since the video games were anarch-leaning already but in the case of a TCG it destroys balance that is a bit more of a sin in design than just immersion.

>>96274112
Only the dead can know peace from the hell they brought to this hobby

>>96275753
Bandai reprinting? LMAO

>>96276420
OPTCG gets occasional reprint sets of select cards and several new cards. But yeah, full reprint runs of older sets is a no-no for them.

>>96254561 (OP)
What game is this? I can't find the card on tcgplayer.

>>96276503
Duel Masters

>Step 1
>cut your own cock off with a butcher's cleaver

>>96276518
I'm not seeing a lot of info on this game that isn't on takaratomy's site. I guess it's never coming here. Mimi is the only one I remember.

>>96276530
Basically the only place to get info on modern DM in English is the Fandom wiki and its associated Discord.

>>96276551
>more secret club shit
I wish old forums were still a thing. Reddit killing them off was a great loss.

>>96276573
The kind of people who used to be forum moderators love discords and walled off non-public platforms like that. They can stalk an mass ban- / preban people with scripts for whatever perceived slight that they can come up with at the time.
They couldn't do that kind of power tripping back in the day where everybody had to make a new account for every website.

I remember using this site as a kid
https://www.pojo.biz/board/index.php?s=4ef901a2ea3f9bdda54f9bb6729620d9

Crazy to see it still being alive.

>>96276620
Holy soul

>>96276586
https://echoesofastra.com/ruleset

>>96276586
bottom looks nice but top looks AI

Is Keyforge fun?

>>96276873
Very. The lack of deckbuilding can turn some people off, but the game itself is fucking brilliant.
And there is a format that allows a form of deckbuilding, even, but I feel like it misses the point.

>>96271983

Are any of the characters featured in the higher rarity for Gundam?

>>96276873
Yes and no.
/if/ its honest KF /and/ the decks have similar power level its simply the best
Sadly you aren't going to get a high % of that in KF even before the new guys power crept all of the old sets.
Essentially KF is a great game but its in the hands of incompetents that can't be trusted at all and considering GR was also just insanely unfun compared to older KF...
>image context, 75% of the meta are the 3 sets they made. there were 6 sets before those

>>96275560
>obvious
the few big times people get caught you practically have to go frame by frame to see it. webcam table top is a fucking joke.

We're so fucking BACK

>>96277219
Did this guy do the fusion dance with Jiren?
I dropped that new anime pretty early on.

>>96277234
No idea. Only watched 4 episodes myself. I just love the deck in Fusion World and it looks like it's going to be strong in set 7.

Duema has fallen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rm0K-vN1OQ

>>96277096
If the community has the kind of people that would cheat in a fucking webcam game, it's probably time to find a new game. that one's past saving.

>>96275492'
>it's insane how no one's reacting to supression as a keyword.
Just block lmao

>>96277493
every single tcg that had webcam play has had cheaters caught. every single one.

>>96277665
so has every single physical tcg, it just wasn't on camera?

>>96277747
its easier on camera due to set up, lag, less visual etc.
But yes it happens often.

>>96276586
>soul killing gas on a fucking card game art render
GET ME OFF OF THIS RIDE ALREADY

>>96277881
>soul killing gas on a fucking card game art render
I recognize all the words, but what the fuck does it mean?
Are you having a stroke?

>>96277895
He means fog.

>>96277900
So, depictions of fog "kill" the "soul" on card game art, which makes it "soulless trash" and give anon an autistic meltdown?
Is that what is happening?

>>96277895
You can clearly see how the digital artist over relies on fog to cover up how they were only paid to do the character and not much background. Just a simple observation no need to have a cow because you don't understand plain english grandpa

>>96277914
Kinda. He's mind broken from the overuse of fog or exaggerated aerial perspective (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerial_perspective) in some modern video games. Admittedly that is a problem, but some people get so mad that they start seething even over legitimate uses of fog.

WA LAO

>>96277917
"soul killing gas" isn't something a native english speaker would off the bat understand. even I had to do a double take on that lmao.

>>96277934
>soul killing gas (foreground)
It really doesn't get much worse than this, they can't even pay league of legends artists to draw legs and a second hand anymore... I'm gonna say it... FUCKFOG

it's SEAmonkey hours, huh?

>>96278165
Its prime trading hours, though? How else am I supposed to pay for all of these cards?

>>96278165
Literally 11pm, need eep

Anyone know what to do if TCGplayer doesn't have cards in their system? Like none of the season 1 promos for Gundam are even available to list.

>>96277665
nah. stop playing shitty games with shitty people and you won't deal with that.
you'll always see some scumbag behavior when money is on the line, you never have zero bad apples, but if people are cheating in casual ass shit like webcam games, the community is rotten to the core.

Just woke up and felt my soul being gased as I got caught up with the thread

I was literally having a dream about journalists being trapped in a rich cabin in the woods while waves of ai generated zombies entered the house and tired to claim our lives (soul if you will). There were two amorphous seagulls standing on top of zombie heads communicating with us, asking if this was the journalist cabin and how delighted they were to kill us last so we can still have time to write a piece for the news cycle as we're being attacked (so they could learn from us and itterate their own reports). All we had to defend ourselves with was every day rich fag glamping objects and limited weapons. One human like zombie was an automatic record player of sliced cylindrical stack of meat pancakes that oozed blood syrup.

They're coming to get us. It was revealed to me in a dream.

>>96278474
This is a perfect dream representation of an insider elite (You) being afraid of outsider elites (the seagulls) using the plebs (zombies) to overthrow (kill) them. If you made this up, then good job, you even have the anxiety about hidden weakness born from luxury (limited weapons - forced improvise with glamping objects). 10/10.

You get what you fucking deserve, huh?

>>96278393
Wasnt talking casual play. lots of games do webcam events with prizing now.
also lol if you think casuals dont cheat.

>>96278526
I never joke about my dreams. Also I was a part of the 80s/90s middle class lifestyle before it got murdered like so man stacks of paincakes.

>>96277468
Choose your Oshi, /acg/.

>>96279147
I claim コンパスちゃん

>>96279147
I dont care for any of their designs, but the top left ponytail is cute.

>>96279147
I'm sorry but none of them will ever surpass Tenma.

>>96279147
I'm torn between pic rel and the middle of the bottom row.
They seem like the two most likely to be male

>>96279207
>>96279147
-4/10
zero cute endangered animals, avant garde celestial bodies and floating oversized desserts

>>96279147
They all look vaguely the same (not in a interesting way either), so I'll be assuming its phone game slop or vtumer garbage.

>>96279147
y'all got any adult women?

>>96279421
Gay

Unlike One Piece and Dragon Ball, Bandai owns Gundam outright. They're gonna milk this hog hard because they don't have to pay license fees.

>>96279316
Lisa keyed

>>96279701
They've been trying to resurrect the TCG community they burned when they killed Gundam War a decade ago. This game is sure to be a killer in Japan and that's all bandai really gives a fuck about. Gundam War ran for 15 years so this game should have legs.

>>96278560
yeah, don't use webcam for online competitive. that's what an app is for.
>we don't have an app
if the game's brand new that can happen. but if it's been around a while and there's still not that's another sure sign the community sucks. find a better game.

>>96279701
>>96279957
Bandai owns Digimon too don't they? Don't they neglect Digimon? There's an official Sim coming though

>>96280289
I think digimon's issue is more that it's archetypal design like Vanguard and Yugioh rather than their other games which are just baby MTG.

Digimon is fun though I enjoy it a ton, I just wish this first set of Gundam had more oomph because its fucking lame as shit.

Riftbound looking like fire out the gate though

>>96279391
>EOP
>too stupid to read the video transcript
>too stupid to mtl the youtube page
>too stupid to google duema new set
It's pandering to idolshit, why even bother responding if you're too stupid to understand anything at all? Have a 卍 Grand Zero 卍 day

>>96280289
Digimon is a less popular IP and they have a rights sharing situation with Toei. The latter might not affect the tcg directly.

>can import a box all the way from Japan and still only pay $90
>meanwhile, English boxes are $250

Did Bandai just completely misjudge the Western market or what

>>96280799
American mindset to try and make a quick buck and scalp shit doesn't help. While I think Bandai misjudged Western interest in Gundam, I don't think that price is organic.

>>96277020
Only gundams. And THANK GOD it is that way.

>>96273235
I liked this game, but I loved Conquest. That was hurt but a terrible first cycle and still being 40 card packs instead of 60. But it was glorious.

>>96280683
im not going to do all that for some random shit animu art post, try /jp/ fag.

>>96280137
do any tcgs actually use apps or emulators for events? Ive only ever seen webcam events for tcgs.

>>96280984

>>96280988
Not official ones. You'll sometimes see unofficial fan events that will

>>96278658
What were your politics in the 80s and 90s

>>96280799
A Japanese box has half the cards, and anyone buying an English box for 250 is an idiot.

>breaks your game

What the fuck were they thinking with this?

>>96280995
you'll never be a slant eye.

>>96281487
>is textless in your path
>borked balancing
Even the busted cards are boring, holy crap.

>>96254561 (OP)
flesh and blood is saved

Rhinar mentioned! Armory deck coming Nov 14.

>>96281620
Dec 12 we get Slippy deck.

>>96281487
Below level 4 units generally get stats, an ability, and/or a link, but not all three. Rezel is just the designated high stat, no-link vanilla.

At the same cost/level, you have the 3/3 Rick Dom that gets Breach, Char's Zaku which links to Char and shits out a token, the 2/3 Jegan that has conditional -1 cost, the 2/4 Guncannon that links to Kai, etc. Rezel just happens to be the only example at the lv3/2c point in the first set.

>>96281636
>do a barrel roll

>>96281487
>>96281559
you will never see the light of god if you dont accept the blessing of ReZEL into your life.

>>96281653
That's the thing though. It is just good without having to jump through hoops. Other vanillas aren't nearly as pushed as this. The fact that is is Blue is even worse.

Bottom line: what do I need to spend for a gundam deck that won't be complete shit for this round of events?

>>96281620
>brutes finally get their blue sixes
>rhinar keyed
>new talent silo'd
Haha, that sucks man.

>>96281487
if you were a yugiboomer, you'd probably think la jinn was busted too.

>>96281738
rg zeon aggro if you've got 100 bucks.

>>96281738
two ST01 or ST03 and as many GD01 LR OYW as you can pull. Blue green OYW rush or red Green zeon rush. Newtype spicy pepper ping and Wing Zero/ Deathscythe decks are the expensive ones.

>>96281765
>>96281772
I've got the Zeon starter and a few packs. Pulled Kshatriya and saw it was in their recommended decklist but was put off by the single price desu.

>>96281763
I mean, he kind of was back in the day. Thing is, vanilla tend to get power-crept real fast in any game, and Gundam will definitely be the same. Then give it a few years and people will be talking about how much they miss Re-Zel format.

>>96281791
Kshatriya is great, but I'm not sure how well it fits into aggro - it's fine as a top end, but your probably more interested in Char's Gelgoog at that point in your curve.

>>96271983
Turn A fucking when?

>>96281820
Cool. I'll probably go that budget route to see if I really like the game. I've only done a few of the mobile tutorials so far. I've got store options but was really hoping to try it out at gen con where bandai had the most retarded setup for getting access to the game I have ever seen at that con.

>>96281763
I played when this was a big enough deal, yes

>>96281763
>>96281820
>>96281853
How would you ever keep a game interesting while not powercreeping vanilla threats out of the meta?

>>96281839
try out wingtable to get a feel for it. can netdeck from exburst lists

>>96281860
Will do and thank you. I'm a huge gundamfag and my card prime card playing days are far behind me during peak L5R and occasional fits of magic so I'd really like to like the game.

>>96276436
You'll be waiting over a year to see these cards in some kind of reprint set but I was talking about the products like ST01-04 and GD01, they do one print run and then move onto printing the next set

One Piece got a small extra run of OP01 but that was over a year after release

>>96281487
*pings u*
*trades 2/1 guntank into you*

>>96281620
>>96281636
>more cash grab pyramid scam milking products
It's so over for FABGOTS

Here's my wip, tell me how it is

>>96281972
Got 'goog, I approb

>>96281983
Questioning whether or not to run a playset of Char's goog

>>96281972
Wash your socks

>>96282016
If you have they you should, it's critical to the gameplan of the zeon deck

>>96281971
Nah, armory decks (cc) were a victory owed solely to the players that kept asking for them. James White got on camera and said "I hate the idea of a cc precon. Why do you guys want this? Just on-board through blitz product!" It took many years but they finally got the message. Players wanted a low cost perfectly reasonable entry point to the premiere format.

>>96282035
Only problem is that they're kind of expensive to play: Zanzibar and full frontal remedy this, but if I don't get them it's hardly worth running at all since its so inefficient

So how is the tournament scene for Gundam, Hololive, and the other new tcgs that have released this summer?
Is anything big planned already or is it just locals to be excited for?

>>96280896
Bruh thats lame asf

>>96282363
No it isn't

>>96282325
Hololive scene is mid.
Riftbound and Gundam are the only successful tcgs this year

>>96282325
Hololive has Bloom Cup (DX), Exstreamer, and Entry Cups that keep usable members to those who got new cards in the set. It seems we're at least getting Bloom Cup.

>>96281858
Vanilla threats have to be the upper limit of what's allowed. Once you start adding effects, their power needs to be drastically reduced. Players should always be scared of a vanilla being played.

I have come to say the Rick Dom and Breach in general is a god send against the blocker meta, SEED players can suck my nuts.
That is all.

This is bait.

>>96281487
>Zowort
>Lfrith
>Rezel

yup... its time have absolutely zero fucking fun

>>96282740
Local meta is currently white/green with shit ton of blockers and green/blue to counter meta.
I feel sorry for my red niggas.

Can someone explain to me what the hell is the deal with the untap.in android app?

>>96280988
mixed bag, depends on the game. it's very common to see events held over app for LCGs and dead/revived TCGs (jinteki for netrunner, meccg, keyforge, ashes, game of thrones, fan-run fab events, etc) or where the maker has fully taken the digital pill (summoner wars or shit like mtg arena). some newer games that dont have a full app yet will even play events on TTS although that's usually almost as much of a headache as webcam.
it's pretty rare for new/hot TCGs like gundam to do it though at least until they get older and the hype wave wears down. since obviously their business they want people to be opening packs in a frenzy and to exclude people who can't afford it or find it for sale. and letting players use cards they can't physically acquire would defeat the point of the fomo-generation efforts which are the whole reason for the game being a TCG in the first place.

>>96282490
>>96281858
raises the question of why print vanillas at all. besides developers being lazy and having no vision. just skip the obligatory boring first set and get straight in to the good stuff.

>>96283222
so basically only dead games and that anon is being retarded?

>>96283236
They have good stats for the cost, it's literally the same as any other tcg

>>96283242
no to the first, yes to the second. unless you mean "dead games" in the hyperbolic "every game except the hot new shit I'm scalping right now is a dead game" sense then yes to both.
is its less about whether a game is dead than if the people in charge care about whether its being played and community health. apps let more people play games and events run faster and smoother, which means more interest, more players, more sales. it's a positive feedback system long term. so if you just want players playing your game then apps are good. if you're like bandai and you just want to milk players as fast as possible then let the game die in a year or two when it stops selling well and forget it ever existed, apps are counterproductive.

Anyone gonna try get Gundam tcg running on here?

https://tcg-arena.fr/

>>96283268
i dont mean they cant be balanced, i mean they're boring

>>96283222
>TTS as much of a headache as webcam
???????
webcam is a fucking awful way to play in every sense & most TCG's ported play quite smoothly once you get the hang of some initial setup on your end
I literally cannot understand why webcam lovers even exist, that shit is ass at every level vs TTS/app/emu. Its got more cheating, its harder to teach the game because you can't see shit or read the cards, its got more setup issues because people need good lighting, cam, angle etc. you can't test cards you don't own which is worse for everyone esp ppl considering getting into the game.
tl;dr fuck webcam into the sun, its so stupid

>>96275151
>>96258365
>>96268315
more ashes spoilers for the spoiler gods
elephant rider is back

>>96283404
>why webcam lovers even exist
>Its got more cheating
There's your answer

Nothing wrong with webcam if you're playing casually or against a friend

TTS is godawful

Elestrals launched their digital client. It's bad as a teaching device but very functional for playing the game. Despite the cutesy aesthetic, it's kind of a boomer-era yugioh with life as a resource.

I'm lucky enough to be near a LGS that hosts events, but even so having it digital is convenient.

Shit's free, try it out. Or don't, I'm not your mom.

>>96283236
If everything is special, nothing is.

>>96283404
>>96283424
>>96283435
TTS has its uses, but webcam is much faster to set up and play. a game that takes 20 mins in emu/app or 30 minutes on webcam might take an hour on TTS.

>>96283609
these games all look the same
fucking awful

>>96283698
except that's wrong. most games end up rotating out or bindering the vanillas anyway.

>>96283404
>that shit is ass at every level vs TTS/app/emu
vs an app yeah. but TTS is different. it sucks so much to use that people will take any alternative available.

>>96283280
deadgames mean "anything 90% of LGS dont hold weekly events for and I have to actively search for a opponent".

>>96283726
so fuck off back to whichever of the big 3 generals you escaped from then. why are we talking about this here?

>>96283715
I would rather vanillas get their time in the sun for a while and make choices based off the base game mechanics than rush to walls of text and unforeseen combos.

I'm probably the only dude here who will show up to locals with a tier 5 deck.

>>96283735
I dont play any non "dead" games anon. read the chain. this is about one retard saying all "good" games have official emulators for events which is just wildly inaccurate.

>>96282740
>Rick Dom has 3 AP
>All the Meta white blockers have 4 HP

No

>>96284222
What are pilot or command cards?

>>96284222
>>96284326
Rick is literally built for Mquve

>>96284222
Wufei gives protection against low ap

Mquve gives an additional +1 breech for helping out with bases

>>96284326
>>96284492
>>96284532
M'Quve and Dom don't link so they can't do shit until level 4. Turn 4 the White deck is now linking Kira or Suletta which is better than your Dom. You are also implying that you are magically attacking the blocker directly, no decent player is attacking with their level 1-3 blockers early game.

Shenlong + Wufei is great. But M'Quve shines on putting breach on shit without breach to chip away at shields. If you are running G/R, Char should be blowing up bases.

If you are wanting to kill that Lfrith, you are better off baiting into blocking something and slapping Indignation on your blocked attacker.

>>96283422
Wrecker mount and rubble spawnlings is kino.

they should have made gyan pop lv3 or lower blockers

Question about Gundam

Are all the different series stuck in 1 color each?

>>96284907
No but the factions are, eg. from OG Gundam the good guys are in blue and Zeon is in green

>>96284902
They gave that to Shenlong instead. Hopefully next set they don't introduced any better blockers.

>>96284907
>>96284926
Also that's only for now.

If it goes even remotely like One Piece, factions will launch in one color but spread out over subsequent sets.

>>96284861
>>96284532
I tried running a shenlong/wufei with less deathsycthe and lost to rush decks not playing vs white once and shenlong does shit vs no blockers. felt bad man. wufei is much better pilot then duo outside the link, since it on a wing is actually better in some ways then heero since you can slam into 3/1 tokens etc and not drip your wing to death but the duo/death ramp and strike is just too good for getting to zero wipe.

>>96284926
>>96284907
Zeon has red cards tied to Unicorn.
Zaku I Sniper
Shamblo
Zaku Mariner

>>96284926
>>96284933
Just realised I'm slightly wrong, there's already a few Zeon cards in red but for the most part the good/bad guys of each series are currently locked to a single colour

>>96284947
These should probably be Zeon Remnants but bandai don't want to make the distinction

>>96284940
My go to with breeches against non-blocker death is using them for trades with the opponent has no base.

>>96284861
Yeah that's kinda the fish of what I'm saying, gyan weakens blockers when paired with mquve too, the problem is he's better on the Gelgoog which becomes 5/4

>>96285130
yeah, thats how it goes just working on numbers is hard. deathscythe is the best and worse because duo kind of sucks as a pilot outside the link. I tried cutting back and going 4 wufei with his lower level breacher too and just died allot. Also tried that list that won gencon or whatever on 4/4/2 heero/duo/wufei and kept getting pilot flooded death.

>>96282407
Bloom Cup = regionals
exstreamer = no card restrictions format
Entry Cup = local
these are my assumptions on what these are because these mean nothing to me as an outsider

What the hell do I play to counter B/W Wing and blockers?

I was thinking of building this Zeon/Neo Zeon deck but I'm not sure. Thoughts?

>>96286612
Zaku Sniper is shit. Play Mquve.

>>96286833
I'm missing two Char's Zaku 2 LRs and 2 Char's Gelgoogs, as well as 2 Sinanjus.

Should I throw in 2 M'quves, 2 Gyans, and 2 Big Zams?

>>96286962
3 Mquves, 2 Gyans and the 4th Gelgoog if you aren't playing the full set yet. You really need 4x Char Zaku II LR though.

>>96286612
Zeon only wins when the Blocker decks brick. Blocker is too efficient and there aren't enough High Maneuver Cards.

Other Issues
>Zeon's R options are limited because Big Zam, Shamblo, Zaku Sniper 1 are mediocre.
>Support is a terrible ability
>The best aggressive vanilla unit is Rezel which is blue, a color that doesn't need that


I am divided on M'Quve+Gyan vs Full Frontal+Sinanju. M'Quve gives you more Links with the Gelgoog. While Full Frontal can help you end the game.

>>96287039
I dropped red and just play GW Zeon. Overflowing Affection gives extra consistency, Unforeseen Incident messes up your opponent's trades and Kira on a Rick Dom spits on Lfriths.

>>96287055
Overflowing Affection is kinda neat because it helps set up Big Zam lol. Kira+Dom is neat, but it just seems like they will just not bother blocking then. Do you run Strike in the deck as well?

>>96287097
Oh no, they didn't block, that's what you want. No Strikes, only units are Zeon ones to make Char's Zaku II hit rate highest. I cut Big Zam because I never wanted to see it and it just clogged hand.

>>96287126
Post the deck list I am interested.

>>96287365
Last list I played. Need a few more runs with it before I tweak more.

>>96287396
What was your record with it?

>>96287412
From this week's events: 4-1, 3-1, 2-2, 2-2.

One of those losses I bricked hard, had 3 bases and 3 Chars in hand at one point. Others were either close or really stupid mistakes on my part.

>>96287422
I'm jealous, i went to locals today and only one other guy showed up, not even that small of an area

>>96287437
We actually had two locals at different stores on Wednesday. 12 at one, 13 at the other. Hopefully this playerbase sticks around.

>>96287321
>rangers need a breakthrough card
>get Riptide spec

>>96287443
I've only been to the one store in my area because the other one i CAN reach isn't convenient at the moment. Turnout for the 1st starter deck event was around 10, 2nd was 8, booster set event was 8 and first locals last week was 6, those were all different people on all of those days other than me and 1-2 others. Weirds me out because stock went flying off the shelves twice and there's not that many playing. Which also sucks because they host yugioh on the same day so if no one shows up for gundam i can't even stick around for that

>>96287422
Very nice. I think the card draw is the key to making zeon work better. I am also looking at the Blue Zeon deck that is also putting results as well. Any reason you aren't running Zanzibar as a 4 of. You are running plenty of good targets and the card draw should make it easier to hit.

I am just waiting for Char Gelgoogs to drop in price. Hopefully the restocks help with that.

>>96287493
I'm sure I'll get around to a 4x Zanzibar version at some point. I had briefly tried Saint Gabriel Institute as some extra fixing since it can trigger off of burst, but 2/2 cost on my own turn sucked. Now trying out Asticassia to get Char + Zaku or Mquve + Gelgoog/Gyan up to 6AP. It hasn't come up yet in a game, so still testing. Probably going to try Falmel but 3/2 feels rough too, might just be Underground Desert Base since its 1 cost and 6HP.

>>96287507
>>96287507
Are you trying to hit 6AP to hit 6HP bases? I haven't run across any in my meta.

>>96287541
Yep, every Wing player here is running Underground Desert Base.

>>96287453
Every time a FaB spoiler is posted, you manage to turn it into kvetching about how hard done by and neglected ranger is. If ranger became t0 tomorrow you'd be pissing yourself about the inevitable LL.
You'll never be happy, so why not quit?

>>96286612
Play more low to the ground one drops with potential for offense. The point of zeon is to make too many tangible threats for your opponent not to trade into

The big issues facing Zeon Rush have primarily to do with a lack of consistency, and units that don't do damage don't help:
If you can help it never play char's goog or the gouf at full value : Zanzibar and full frontal should generally be your primary methods of making them. They're not bad at full value, just inefficient.

Big zam is probably your best anti blocker card as long as you know how to trade efficiently: Rick Dom and M'quve are both good options for this, and close combat is a godsend.

>>96288561
Cookies are such lovely creatures!

>>96281487
Can any gundam loremasters tell me why ReZEL has an erect cock?

>>96288743
It can transform into a space jet and the shield hooks onto that.

>>96274112
Here is the newest chase card from the upcoming set Torrential Tides.

>>96287396
I would love to hear your logic on Asticassia - is it just there to help with attacking bases?

>>96286612
You don't.
Gundam is a triangle meta, the Zeon and R/U aggro decks lose to U/W, U/W loses to G/W ramp, and the G/W decks lose to the balls to the wall aggro decks.

https://riftbound.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/news/announcements/after-origins-spiritforged-slices-into-riftbound/
Riftbound next set is coming out in December/February for China/Rest of the world. I really don't like this several months lag thing. It's the reason why I quit One Piece (meta arrived presolved to us), and why the local shadowverse group stopped playing (you could just look up the next few metas). It takes out the fun of exploring a new set.

Yeah they're fucking retarded
Should've just done simultaneous release.

>>96289051
and we all lose to IBO purple trash soam 2 shield killers next set!

>>96286612
add mquve, drop red then either go hard into breach with shenlong + chang or tech blue for amuro and units that rest, there's also an amuro link that gives itself high maneuverer so you can double down on just not giving a shit on their board state

What changes would you make to this deck that don't involve getting more booster pack LRs? I don't want to buy singles until prices normalize.

They should've done something to separate Space/Earth/Sea suits in Gundam. They have the Space/Earth tag, which don't do anything currently (and if it's anything like One Piece's attributes, will end up being used for about 6 cards across 12 sets total), but nothing for sea. And already in set 1 we have some of the random sea designs just being ~useless vanillas.

And like, sure, some cards will end up as useless vanillas, nothing stops them reprinting a less useless version later. But considering how many suits in Gundam are one-off villain of the week in X biome suits, a mechanic to give them some distinctness would've been nice. I'm not asking for separate lanes like SWU, just *something* to make them even slightly mechanically distinct.

>>96284889
agree. the tiger thing will also be a nice target for hoppers to shit their extra tokens on to. assuming its a 2 cost since 2/2.

>>96287321
I know the art isn't AI, but there's something about the *concept* of FAB art that's just so... not human. right? like you're making a card called "Take The Bait" and instead of it being either someone getting trapped going for something tempting (the idiom) or a fish in the water going for bait on a hook (literal), you get this "hand pushing a gold nugget in to a dead fish while a fishhook dangles inexplicably from above".

it's like an artist was given the sentence "take the bait" but its someone who never heard the expression, can't connect the metaphor, and is an extraterrestrial and everything he knows about fishing and bait was described to them through a game of long-distance telephone.

Just buy the LRs bro. They're only $120 for the play set bro! It's easy bro just pay $400 and you can play the game bro!

>>96289791
the hand is clearly pulling it out, not pushing it in, you dumb autist

>>96290013
I'm sorry, do you have an art degree from a top 30 school? Go fuck yourself, ape.

>>96289860
Bandaid cucks will pay that price and then when the rugpull happens they're going to get severe rugburn and turn away from the game.

>>96289048
Gets Char + Zaku up to 6AP, same with Mquve + Gelgoog/Gyan. Hasn't come up yet, so still testing.

>>96290013
right, because that makes more sense. taking the bait out of a dead fish.
FaB drones will defend anything though.

>>96288148
Because the card is abysmal dogshit and I'm not the only one out there that knows it

https://youtu.be/oIYmYzsfxW8?si=WfUE5A39Gl_Lssb3

Why wouldn't I be upset at the game for dropping the ball on class development and character support this hard? You want me to say thank you for the bait, James? I'm sorry but how about pull your head out of your ass when you think that this criticism doesn't have any validity to it?

>>96289860
>own playset of most of the top cards
>play poorfag zaft deck anyway
live by the jank, die by the jank

>>96289791
>>96290081
nta but likely the name was changed post art since the card is actually two sided Take the Bait / Bait. Given Pitmaster KOX with his huge right hand and the other sex innuendos that only dads find funny Im willing to bet riptide the master baiter had something else on this card title before

>>96289860
its pretty bad, glad I got them all before the price jumps + locals trading since the LGS gives packs for top 16 players.

>>96289860
Zeon Aggro is $120 and the LRs themselves are $100 of that

if you play the $300 Wing deck that's on you

I really want to play R/G Zeon/Neo-Zeon midrange. It's probably shit and just straight up worse than unga bunga aggro decks but midrange is just a much more fun playstyle.

>>96290372
The problem with it is mainly that all the strictly best Zeon stuff is Zeon tribal. But you can fit the Gelgoog and Gouf into a Neo Zeon/Remnants deck just fine.

>>96287453
There's something so... not human about this.
It's called "take" aim, but it doesn't remove aim counters at all! If "aiming" is supposed to be represented by power boosts, that doesn't make sense either. Shouldn't it be "give aim" because it's a positive modifier? Very strange.
I think the only reasonable solution to all this is fuckfab.

>>96289791
>>96290159
Even without speculating on card changes the dad-theory explains it perfectly.
The card is called "Take the Bait" because the devs want you to say that as you hand your opponent the bait token. There's no need to reveal the searched card, so that only adds to it.
>"Naur, don't wurry about it m8. Go on, take the b8 :^)"

It would be fine if it was a yellow atleast but this is a red spec? Things not very helpful at all

>>96287453
I swear every FAB card I see is just a bolt

>>96290640
No you take (reload) aim (buff). I know you're a shitpost but that's a dreadful example to set your bait with.

played in two UVS prereleases yesterday for TMNT. wasn't bad. Rocksteady is such a beating in limited its totally valid to just go full stall out mill to try to win because you can't OHKO him with bad attacks and his attacks are block or die damages if they pulled enough of the right keywords

>>96290793
I can see now that the soulful, human name for this card would have been "Give Aim and Take".

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>>96254561 (OP)
>>Disney Lorcana
Just got into it. I'm a Kingdom Hearts fan but the old KH TCG has been dead for like 20 years. I've only been collecting for now since apparently rotation is happening next month. Seems silly to build a deck now. But I did play that Ursula PvE thing yesterday. That was pretty neat.

I got hard

>>96291465
Oh I forgot why I came here. Does anyone here know if these upcoming starter decks will have cards that are rotating out? Or will they be fully playable after rotation?

>>96291518
Not only are the new starter decks safe from rotatation, but any card reprinted in the new set will also be safe. That being said, most of the new set will be reprints.

More kitties ^_^

How are we building around him?

>>96292122
Nice cats
>>96292107
Cool thanks. The game is really fun to collect so far. I ultimately want to go to locals after rotation or whatever.

>>96292255
>white card without blocker
you don't

>>96292302
No worries! Hope you have fun with it!>>96292302

>>96292311
It's for board control, obviously.

>>96292255
We'll find out when we see more AEUG cards in the set release. Bandai games are always very archetypal.

>>96291469
Canonically doesn't kiss during sex

WHERE is the gundam simulator (that doesnt require joining a discord server)

>>96292255
>5/4
die to a 2 cost blue card lmao

>>96292970
sir, your pilot?

>>96292255
UW double attackers with him and Tallgeese as your top end

>>96293127
hoping Kamille gives him some sort of protection or repair

>>96292473
>Bandai games are always very archetypal.
Honestly Gundam so far is much less so than I'm used to. It's mostly just Zeon in this set.

>>96293226
There's ZAFT even if it's not that good.
The Green ramp shit is all Operation Meteor so I'd say it's heavy archetype deck as well.

>>96293637
Sure, but honestly that's less Operation Meteor and more just Heero Yui and the suits he directly links to. Which is a form of archetyping but it's just a handful of cards and the rest of the deck is just whatever synergizes.

>>96293650
Gundam Deathscythe and Duo Maxwell too

>>96293680
Right but what I'm saying is that if this was One Piece, Heero would have some effect that specifically works on Operation Meteor units and you would be basically required to run Duo and Deathscythe. Instead they just have soft synergies and support a similar playstyle.