So, now you need to decide. Do you close your eyes to what you've seen and go back to sleep? Or do you come with this psycho burnout and do the impossible against the unbelievable and keep the future at bay for another day? What's it going to be? In or out?

Yeah? You dumb shit.

>Thread Question:
What media has influenced or inspired your DG game(s) the most?

>Previous thread:
>>96173649

>Unofficial Resources:
https://delta-green.neocities.org

>>96285079 (OP)
Looking for feedback on a 90's-era shotgun scenario I'm writing. It involves a BBS and a fractal generation program that has hypergeometric math in the code.

https://gofile.io/d/8isH3C

>>96285079 (OP)
its been 4 years since the last new sourcebook (that isn't a remake)
why is this the case?

>>96285307
>https://shop.arcdream.com/pages/kickstarter-status

All of these are in the works. It seems like they were more focused on releasing new scenarios and pushing Caleb's "God's Teeth" stuff (not a fan personally). "Deep State" will probably be the next Program era sourcebook.

Funny enough, the stuff I'm looking forward to the most are the updated versions of The Conspiracy era sourcebooks. And Operational History.

>>96285191
am i missing something or is the fractal horror supposed to be a guaranteed player kill?

The /dg/ thread recommended that I run Future/Perfect as an introductory mini campaign for people new to both CoC & DG after running Last Things Last and it fucking sucked. Are there any other good introductory scenarios that slowly ease players into DG? I'd consider "good" to be one that slowly introduces new mechanics and is slightly hand-holdy to gently nudge players along. Future/Perfect has way too much information just thrown at you with no indication of how said info can actually be utilized by the players.

>>96285457
Pretty much. One way to mitigate it is to have an NPC in the group that the Fractal Horror targets las:. A school official who insists on chaperoning them, a janitor, local police officer, one of the Friendlies, etc.

Or you can use a ritual like "Open Gate" to create a gateway for them to escape.

>>96285494

>>96285500
fair enough. personally i would wanna foreshadow it a bit with something they could discover on the victims or their surroundings, but that's personal preference

other than that i like it, demo scene stuff is cool and it could easily be a jumping off point or made to fit into a larger investigation too

>>96285079 (OP)
Nice, been sick the past few days so I'm glad someone got this thread up and running when the last one got archived.

As for TQ, I'd say it would have to largely depend on what kind of scenario I'm running, and what my players might be facing.

>>96285581
I am considering allowing a POW check to avoid the initial swap (like the swaps afterwards do). Maybe lower the Fractal's HP to 8 without someone to drain HP from.

>>96285494
As far as I say in the last thread, the only guy that mentioned Future/Perfect was talking about how he was going to run it for his players, not that he recommended it for anyone else.

>>96285494
It's bizarre to me that Future/Perfect gets recommended as much as it does. It's a perfect showcase of all of Detwiller's worst sins as a scenario writer.

Impossible Landscapes is getting a German release
This might be the first pre published campaign I will run

Here's audio from the GenCon 2025 panel for Delta Green. It's Caleb (God's Teeth), Ross Payton (RPPR), and Ken Hite (Fall of Delta Green):

>https://gofile.io/d/h7HueS

>>96285702
>pre published campaign
pre-written

>>96285699
Part 1 is a pretty fun scenario on its own. The follow up chapters are pretty dogshit and not worth using.

>>96285733
Exactly, don't plan on using anything further than the first part. I'll admit, also just makes me think that Caleb watched that old British series Primeval (fun show btw) and decided to rip that off to make this own story, which is why part 1 feels soooo much better than all the other parts.

>>96285079 (OP)
I've actually been using DG to create my own setting/game called "DUST Protocol" (Designated Unstable Spatial Terrain).

It's set in the southwest US in the mid 90's where a government facility caused an anomalous zone to manifest. So players play regular people who go into the Zone to explore, push back the creatures coming out of it and attacking their town, and catalog the things they find (all in analog: cassette tapes, VHS, logbooks, radio transmissions. Digital tools corrupt in the Zone) to prove it exists since the government is trying to cover it all up.

It's like one part Roadside Picnic, one part Pacific Drive, and one part Tremors. I have a rough draft of it I've been using for playtesting.

>>96285770
Dennis, actually. Caleb has just done Lover In The Ice and the God's teeth stuff iirc

>>96285792
Ah, I've been mixing up the names lately, my bad

>>96285733
Part one is the part I'm talking about. The write up is full of information that has little baring on the scenario and/or the investigators have no way of ever figuring out, and it relies on players following very specific lines of logic in order to do anything. Detwiller is a good writer, but his scenarios are fucking terrible.

>>96285869
I know he is rewriting it for the Great Race of Yith sourcebook. Maybe he'll manage to fix it.

>>96285792
what's with Caleb and rape?

>>96285896
Closeted gooner

>>96285079 (OP)
So what book are you guys least excited for?

>>96285959
Which one has the most Fate stuff in it? That's the answer.

>>96285959
Probably "Falling Towers". I just don't have a lot of interest in The Program era.

>>96285959
deep state mainly because i'm sick of seeing people use that one single seal exercise as visual reference
it's not even the right decade when the entire gimmick is it being a GWOT book

>>96285504
Looked it up and this does seem like a far better introduction, thank you!
>>96285619
Wasn't from the previous thread, this was a while back. Funny how people are still falling into the Future/Perfect trap though.
Are there any Shotgun Scenarios that act as good newbie onboarding ops? I wish that one website that collects them had a noob-friendly tag.

>>96286843
I recommend running "Last Things Last" and have the Agents deliver Clyde's artifacts to a nearby Green Box after dealing with the main threat. Then immediately run "Metamorphosis".

I usually like to having the Agent's storing the items at the storage unit, discussing the events of what just happened when they suddenly see headlights and the sound of a car fast approaching. Then the car erratically slams into a nearby dumpster or something, Reservoir Dogs style, and a bloodied man in a suit gets out, yanks open the backseat door and pulls out a delirious, sickly Agent Ophelia.

>https://fairfieldproject.fandom.com/wiki/Metamorphosis

Any actual play videos involving women are immediate no's, they're always awful.

>>96285079 (OP)
A woman? Getting tortured?
Wow, the zeitgeist is really changing.
Do they still consider ICE to be an evil organization?

>>96287500
>Do they still consider ICE to be an evil organization?
The TV says it is, so the answer must surely be yes.

>>96285079 (OP)
Hey bros I brought the snacks tonight

>>96287689
hehehe

>>96287689
>Delta Cream
That sounds like the name of a DG porn parody

>>96288271
Imagine porn but every 30 percent of it contains cringe political commentary.

>>96285504
It's amazing how the first scenario they ever wrote is still the best one

>>96285973
my main issue with The Program era is the lack of cool antagonists, we have like 1 fucking sourcebook and a small guide on Artifacts and thats it

>>96288486
Yeah, they've really fucked this aspect of the setting. March Industries and the idea of Mythos proliferation after their cold war went hot is a neat idea, but they've done absolutely nothing with it.

I think they know that *most* people who play DG are either running one shots or barely connected scenarios so they haven't really focused on anything other than that. It's nuts that they had Ken fucking Hite as a contributor and they didn't put any version of the conspirimid and the adjoining campaign advice in their book. Honestly the handlers guide is a pretty disappointing tome.

What would be a good first scenario for a group that have already played Last Things Last in the past, but haven't played anymore DG than that since?

>>96287500
>>96287635
>the fat pedophile is in charge so this means the feds are based
The feds are scum and you know it.

>>96290874
Do not speak ill of Dana Scully and Fox Mulder

>>96285889
I remember seeing that book are when I first learned about delta green 6 years ago
aren't the Great Race and Lligor supposed to be the meta villain's that are also in conflict with one another?

>>96291431
To be fair Mulder is kind of portrayed as a rebel within the FBI and frequently butts heads against both the bureau, the government and authority in general.

>>96291584
Only Daddy Skinner gives him the respect he deserves.

>>96289055
last equation
victim of the art
darkened room
depends on taste & what they wanted more of, should probably skim through the list of shotgun scenarios as well

What's some good media with DG vibes?

>>96285699
Name three.

>>96293635
I Come in Peace (1990)

>>96293635
X-files and True Detective (Season 1) are the obvious ones.

>>96285785
Damn it. I was going to use that premise for a demonstration of how to mash up MY0 games.
Ah, well that’s basically Roadside Picnic anyway.

>>96293726
If they're obvious, why did you bother writing anything at all

>>96293884
>>96285785
If you wanna check out what I have so far, here's a link to a very very rough draft. It's mostly just a hodgepodge of ideas I tried to organize into a decent looking PDF.

>https://gofile.io/d/3OCUV2

>>96293884
>>96285785 (You)

If you wanna check out what I have so far, here's a link to a very very rough draft. It's mostly just a hodgepodge of ideas I tried to organize into a decent looking PDF.

>https://gofile.io/d/3OCUV2

>>96294096
I even tried to make an online "game" for it. It sorta serves more as an interactive powerpoint than anything, but I barely know Javascript so I was pretty limited in what I could pull off.

>https://dust-protocol.neocities.org

>>96287500
>its a bold woke take to think that an arm of the DHS is an evil organization because this one focuses on brown people

this board is embarrassing sometimes

>>96293635
Ignore anyone that says True Detective S1, the real actual show about a bunch of people who get turned into DG agents is the Outsider (read the book though), it's a perfect low level scenario.

My group have been playing Call of Cthulhu for a couple of years, and now want to try some Delta Green.

I would like recommendations for a couple of good introductory scenarios so we can get our toes dip in the system.

If possible, I would like some scenarios that I can run back to back in a mini campaign.

>>96294257
>the Outsider
>read the book
Sell me on it.

>>96294270
last things last into metamorphosis a la >>96287236

Just bought Foundry, how do I get it to use metric system instead of american numbers

>>96285079 (OP)
What is the closest thing we have to a DG vidya game? I want to scratch the itch between sessions.

>>96295459
deadly premonition

>>96295247
There should be a section called "Preferences" in the settings, and from there you got to the Input section and then can choose which measurements you want to use.

>>96295459
Phantom Doctrine

>>96295505
Fuck you're right

>>96295247
Why would you want to

>>96290874
Hating immigration enforcement is like hating fire fighters.

Why do all the bad actual plays last 500 sessions and all the good ones stop after 4

>>96294096
Holy fuck these are some good stalker style anomalies
Stealing them for my personal campaign

You run anything yet DUST anon?
A lot of this shit looks like pretty gamble prep materials

Some friends and I are playing The Fall of Delta Green and one of us is most likely a Majestic double or triple agent.
Have you ever dealt with PC on PC violence in a game?
Cause I think it’s going to end in a shoot out.

>>96296071
because the handbook itself uses metric

>>96296884
That's not a positive

>>96296350
Yah, I've been running a "West Marches" style campaign where the players push further into the DUST until they need to return to their town for supplies or recovery. It's all randomly generated, and I've been using some hexcrawl rules from different books ("World of the Lost" for LotFP has been a big one).

It's also cool having my players record the anomalies and artifacts they find into a shared notebook, the way the actual PCs would. They've fought things like glowing coyotes, a woman made of TV static, and giant a glass mantis. One PC imploded after walking through a Pressure Gate.

I was initially unsure what rule system I wanted to use, but Delta Green seems like a perfect fit for what I am going for. It really emphasizes that these are regular people in irregular situations.

>>96295459
Alan Wake 2 / Control
The Black Watchmen
Dark Pictures: House of Ashes

There are some coming soon that seem promising:
Loveland
They Are Here
Underworld Dreams

>>96285354
I think they are going with Operational history cause it can act not only as a sourcebook, but as a scenario collection as well, which we know they love.

>>96298500
Apparently it's so big, it's now going to be two books.

>>96299449
that's a bit worrying

>>96294344
Nice.
I'll try it.

>>96287236
The problem I'm having with DG is that my players have Agents from all over the US, so the idea that they're a rapid response force doesn't really work, since every operation is going to take a day for them to arrange flights and gather in the meeting area.

>>96299955
Either have your players live around the same geographic area or have a revolving door cast with different agents for each scenario. If you want it to make sense why you have agents hopping around the country you'll need to have a campaign with some sort of throughline instead of it just being disconnected investigations.

>>96299955
Delta Green operates in cells that only know one another and the 'leader' of their adjacent cells. So if someone in J-Cell moves from LA to Chicago, they're not just gonna be removed from J-Cell because they're geographically distant. They're an intrinsic part of how that cell operates.

Also, Agents aren't just constantly investigating the unnatural like it's a day job. They're only called into action like, once in a blue moon.

>>96299449
So it's coming out in, what, 2032?

>>96301140
if we would be so lucky
nah its going to be more scenario collections

>>96302040
I read the drafts and it's more in line with the history section of the handler's guide

>>96302267
Oof, that's not great.

>>96302338
>Nooo it's bad because it's just lore
Lore is the reason why I read the sourcebooks.

>>96302583
dg lore is a lot better when its more of a framework and less of a fleshed out thing imo

>>96302583
I'd prefer if it's actually fleshing factions/groups out more than just recapping history.

>>96302999
Most of the faction sourcebooks are just history and lore

Do I need the COC rulebook to run Delta Green: OG edition, or can I use the BRP rules instead?
Which edition does /tg/ recommend?

>>96296076
Firefighters commit arson at like 10x the rate of the general populace, and their standard operating procedure is to "contain" a housefire rather than go to any great lengths to save your house.

Hating them seems like a pretty reasonable position, all things considered.

>>96303090
>their standard operating procedure is to "contain" a housefire rather than go to any great lengths to save your house.
>NOO THE FIREFIGHTERS ARE TRYING MAKE SURE THE FIRE DOESN'T SPREAD INSTEAD OF RUSHING IN TO SAVE MY FUNKO POPS

>>96296076
>Hating the FBI is like hating fire fighters.
>Hating the ATF is like hating fire fighters.
>Hating the CIA is like hating fire fighters.

>>96303328
The government past and present has many more mundane daily things to be against than enforcing immigration law anon.

>>96302583
Okay, that's cool for closet drama, but a dry recitation of history is shit for gamable material, and we already have hundreds and hundreds of pages that are just a dry recitation of history.

>>96304107
From the previews shared on Patreon, each Operation will contain its history and lore, as well as hooks for your game. It also contains stats for threats/enemies, like "The Federal Bridge Thing" for Operation Puzzlebox (the Innsmouth Raid) and assets/artifacts (similar to items in ARCHINT)

>>96303087
I'd just use the current DG.

>>96285354
>>96285307
Honestly pissed at their autistic and money grubbing pace. Falling towers and/or deep state should have been out by now for backers of the original Kickstarter. They just keep making new shit over 4 years after original articles were promised and its infuriating

>>96292217
As an abductee, I find this offensive. When can I have my own Me Too movement?

>>96304308
all of these except the one about infiltrating the town before the raid sound terrible, who plays delta green for battalion level urban combat? the scale and style are totally out of wack with the system, just saying that it's a fishman behind the mg position you're supposed to assault doesn't make it work.

>>96304308
that's good, I'd like more artifacts, tomes and spells
having hooks that you can use is also nice
its a shame we will get another full campaign before we get this

>>96304752
I think they are hesitant as Falling Towers and Deep state don't lend well to their favorite enemy of Christian cults.

>>96306788
Are you kidding? The FBI is literally "oops! All Mormons!" And Al Queda was essentially started by Right Wing Christian Identity psychos (this is a gross oversimplification, I'll admit, but still true.)

>>96306788
i half think they're just too touchy about intersecting mythos stuff with real events and also not really informed enough to see where to fit it in around the edges. most of the obvious hooks or big pivotal elements are probably seen as too 'hot' to touch on, politically. just look at how surface iconoclasts was, or the two afghan ones

any recommended Foundry modules, besides the usual Dice so Nice and Monk's modules?

>>96307808
token action hud supports dg

>>96307279
I mean, one of the old novels had speculation that the reason why so many bodies were never found in the wreckage of the Word Trade Center is that ghouls might have gotten to them before responders could find them. They had little trouble doing it before, and they pump out shit like God's Teeth which I think is a bit more touchy than that.

Sleeping Low sucks so far why do people like this

>>96309252
No idea, what don't you like about it?

I used AI to generate myself a 200-entry solo Delta Green scenario. Based around how the CoC "Alone Against the..." series works. It turned out alright.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/ca3bt6cz2cwgis9

>>96304308
Why would these retards push for something they know will be combat heavy when they explicitly made the combat rules they way they are to help discourage combat? Also almost all of these imply battalion scale fights, which is another thing this system as it is isn't built for.

>>96314168
If you think you can only handle any of those hooks with combat, then you lack imagination Anon.

>>96314343
how the fuck you could possibly run the first two and hit list without combat as a focus

Whoever makes delta green really needs to include a paragraph explaining the basic legalities of firearms, every single actual play seems to have a child's understanding of it all.

>>96314168
I don't think the rules are made to discourage combat, they are made to be brutal. Combat can be really good in DG if you aren't running into every spot half cocked. It encourages thinking strategically.

>>96315273
Ditto just basic law enforcement shit like who has what jurisdiction, what a chain of custody is, things like that. And basic tradecraft. It's kind of criminal that Alphonso's axioms aren't in the fucking core book.

I like the ruleset but I hate the fuckin books that we actually ended up getting.

>>96315273
people who dont already care aren't gonna read it

>>96315392
I think they probably would. They seemed to care enough to talk about it briefly in the audio recordings, to bring up questions as to what the legal process was, etc. It's just everybody involved knew jack shit.

>>96315273
Given their vocal political leanings it's a pretty safe bet that the writers don't understand that well enough to do that.

>>96315877
That is always the case, yes.

>>96315877
that's also why they can't write deep state

>>96315408
musing aloud about something is very different than being willing to read and retain information about it

also, the agent's handbook already notes which weapons are illegal/restricted federally. getting any more in depth than that would require having breakdowns by state, you cant expect a rulebook to be responsible for that if people aren't willing to do a tiny bit of research on their own.

>tfw subjecting my Handler to my /k/ autism
I almost feel bad, but then I remember that people in my group know radiation science shit and basically demand that the Handler googles/defines what kind of radiation a Macguffin is emitting

>>96316334
you should both knock it off

>>96316785
I don't think that's how autism works

>>96307808
Terminal