Thread 96569126

When you spread rice so a vampire has to count it, do they need to individually count the grains, or can they establish an near estimate using math?

>>96569126 (OP)
It's a fantasy game, you can come up with whatever you want.

If you show the /tg/ catalogue to a vampire, they're stuck refreshing it until a heterosexual makes a thread.

>>96569126 (OP)
Which system?

>>96569126 (OP)
Depends on the setting.

they need to get the number right, by any method

What about broken pieces of rice? Do they count as 1 or 2?

>>96569168
0.5

>>96569126 (OP)
What if one of the vampires is autistic and counts the rice in two seconds. Do the others still have to count if they know the answer?

>>96569126 (OP)
>vampire counting rice
What is this retconned myth? I've been a VampFan since I was 4 years old and have never once heard it. Is it some Asian or Eastern European bullshit that no one cares about?

>>96569126 (OP)
Traditionally it is individually counting the grains, a task that will take them long enough that the sun will rise forcing them to return to their grave before they can attack their victim.

>>96569288
>What is this retconned myth? I've been a VampFan since I was 4 years old and have never once heard it. Is it some Asian or Eastern European bullshit that no one cares about?

It is a classical European folklore vulnerability that is mostly ignored in modern interpretations. It is the origin of Seasame Street's Count von Count's obsession with counting things.

>>96569148
Well played, anon.

>still refreshing

>>96569321
>It is a classical European folklore vulnerability
rice was not a thing Europeans would know about back when classical folklore formed

>>96569126 (OP)
I have a sexual fantasy where I date a vampire who wants to kill and eat me. But when she makes her move I throw prepared rice and tsk tsk at her and speak down to her as she counts. And I say random numbers out loud to fuck her up. But it turns her on so later that night she stalks me and kidnap me to keep as a blood cow rather than as a one time feast.

>>96569362
The important bit is that it be lots of small things a peasant has easy access to but would be reluctant to spill. Individual barley or what grains are not very big either.

>>96569362
Rice has been part of the European diet since the time of Alexander the Great and would have long been part of it by the time vampire folklore was being recorded in the 19th century.

Other grains and even beans were also suitable sacrifices to distract them with as >>96569403 points out.

>>96569403
>is that it be lots of small things a peasant has easy access to but would be reluctant to spill.
being modern day vampire must be suffering
>crawl in some bastards basement
>he asks me to count his Funko Pops

>>96569682
Being a vampire has always sucked.

Can they take the grains and count them as they persue me or do they not get to move at all until they do? Can I stab or stake them midcount?

>>96569126 (OP)
>>96569288
>>96569321
>>96569362

is that a real belief, that if you throw rice a vampire has to stop and count it?

is this based on throwing pennies at a jewish person or something?

>>96569769
>can't cross running water
>can't enter houses uninvited

>>96569780
It's common enough belief that Count von Count from Muppets is parodying it.

>>96569780
>is that a real belief, that if you throw rice a vampire has to stop and count it?

Just leaving a pile by the front of your door would lead them to spend the rest of the night counting grains or beans.

>is this based on throwing pennies at a jewish person or something?

More likely the other way around. Vampires were more a village thing while Jews tended to reside in cities and towns.

>>96569806
>can't cross running water

Rivers and streams were traditionally used as boundary markers. Some folklorists suspect that rule basically meant that you would be safe if you got out of the vampire's territory.

>can't enter houses uninvited
Historically most vampire victims were either family members or otherwise close to the suspect vampire. This rule was likely a rationalization of why some people would be attacked while others were not.

>>96569288
Sesame Street.

>>96569952
yes, sesame seeds should work too, any plant-grains really

>>96569126 (OP)
Vampires do rainmain shit.

>>96569806
>can't cross running water

Do underground water supply lines and sewer systems count?

>>96570136
Naturally occuring underground rivers don't seem to count. So I'd wager neither does underground plumbing.

>>96569136
>OP and his autism
>Coming up with anything else than more autism
L M A O
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>>96569288
Vampires having weird compulsions has been a thing for a long time. There was also a belief in some cultures that if they saw a knot they had to try untying it.

>>96570354
Sounds like the kind of misinformation Vampires would purposefully leak so their victims waste time doing ridiculous shit instead of trying to just chop their head off.

>>96569126 (OP)
If the vampire cares, he would just practice until the could do it really fast. See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-9eDJ4maak

>>96569286
I'd say it depends if they intrinsically trust the other vampire. If someone held a stake to their heart, dropped a ton of rice, the autist counted it and gave the answer, would they risk their life and give his answer or count each individual grain of rice?

>Doing a vampire mystery setting for players
>They're bottled up with a set number of characters, know that at least one is a vampire
>Set up a bunch of vampire detection methods for them (rice, running water, being invited in, etc.)
>They don't know anything but garlic and crosses
>Explicitly no one has any of either
>Someone says "Hey wait they're weak to silver and the coins are made of silver."
>They gather up all the silver coins and just start chucking them at people until they get an extreme reaction

>>96570171
>Naturally occuring underground rivers don't seem to count.

I don't remember that ever being specifically called out, but besides there could be a distance factor here since vampires are repelled by e.g. garlic close to them, but not a garlic in the neighbouring village. Water pipes can often be more shallowly buried than underground rivers. Some are not buried at all, just have a structure over them, a culvert over a pipe is essentially very close to a bridge over a brook. And bridges usually don't help (though I think myths and media are mixed there).

>>96569126 (OP)
Depends on what setting. Which is?

>>96569288
Apparently not much of a fan, you casual.

>>96571436
couldne't you have made them role a in-universe check to to see if the charecters themselves knew any Vampire weaknesses?

>have a secret vampire NPC in my game
>he acts like an asshole, the PCs and players hate him
>really, he is heavily telegraphed to be a vampire at this point
>they don't suspect a thing
>they just think he's some asshole
Boy, am I looking forward to the reveal.

>>96573651
They'll just shrug and hate him because he's an asshole, making the whole vampire thing irrelevant.

>>96573651
You're running BG3?

>>96573668
I think they'll be overjoyed that they finally have a good reason to kill him.

>>96573670
Nah, but if I say what system I'm running I'm potentially giving it away.

>>96569126 (OP)
this sounds like some dumb anime shit
>VLAD DRACUL ART: THOUSAND GRAIN STORM
>oh no, he used his grain spreading attack
>he's counting them! H-he's fast!

>>96573916
>anime shit
You're on a Manchurian pottery forum

>>96569288
Well rice is asian. So...durrrrrrrrrr.

>>96571436
They're not so much weak to silver as they vulnerable to it. That'd be like saying you're weak to stabbing. Like, yeah, technically I suppose that's true, but so many other things are too by that logic.
Silver wouldn't provoke an extreme reaction so much as it would provoke a reaction, but there's no saying a vampire wouldn't react to a pebble or something being hucked at them. Just because it doesn't hurt them doesn't mean they won't react or feign reaction.

>>96569148
A heat-death-of-the-universe sort of situation?

>>96569288
South east asian belief that spread along the silk road and reached eastern europe so
>yes

Rain Man vampire is more dangerous

>>96569126 (OP)
They are savants like Kim Peek.
They can do this instantaneously

A vampire counting individual grains of rice sounds an awful lot like the stereotype of a jew counting pennies on the ground.

>>96569126 (OP)
They need to COUNT it. They love it, just ask the Count. (Was a classic troupe of vampires.)

>>96569126 (OP)
>When you spread rice so a vampire has to count it, do they need to individually count the grains, or can they establish an near estimate using math?
This is a stupid fucking question that only faggots would ever give the time of day.

>>96569806
With the water is it like they cannot walk through a running river or if there's a bridge over the river can they not cross that too?

>>96573596
Absolutely. If they had asked to, that is.
In this particular group were a bunch of people who didn't want to learn the rules, so I was enforcing that I wouldn't ever tell them exactly what to do at any point, they had to figure it out themselves.
Case in point one of the players was a Paladin. He did not use divine sense. Not even once.

>>96579886
Absolutely, but they didn't know much better so it worked well enough. It also helped that none of the people they did it to were actually vampires.
In their defense they did realize they could get enough silver to make a silver stake.