Thread 96833101

Instead of orcs. Rabbits.

>>96833101 (OP)
What game?

>>96833187
Any game with orcs. Those orcs are now rabbits.

It certainly has historical precedent.

Stop that, it's silly.

>>96833310
What’s with all this shit? Why were medieval artists obsessed with killer snails and killer rabbits?

>>96833515
You've never gotten bored enough that you started doodling weird shit in the margins of your notebooks, anon? Because sitting in a chair from dawn until dusk hand-copying Latin treatises sounds like it would lend itself to that kind of behavior very easily.

>>96833187
The one you play. You do play games right? You're not trying to police /tg/ - Random With Dice while not actually playing games, are you?

>>96833841
Hm. You make a good point. I shouldn’t shame bored people.

>>96833515
Memes and shitposting. The same kind of people you're talking with here existed back then, and had big chances to end up as monks.

>>96833914
Bahahaha

>>96833310
Wait, is that a giant orange rabbit cock? Huh?

>>96833914
Un fucking real. Humans are such a disappointment.

>>96833515
The fellas illustrating and transcribing books also kept gardens. And the two biggest menaces to any vegatable garden was rabbits, and snails.

Way ahead of you, mate.

>>96833187
Well that looks like a anime

>>96833101 (OP)
>big snu-snu still possible
I'm ok with this.

>>96834972
lol

>>96833854
I do. I don't. I'm just asking a simple question. Why does it make you so angry?

>>96835863
>8 hours later
>U Mad
You're not fooling anyone gamelet.

>>96835990
Sorry for not being online 24/7 I was too busy playing traditional games.

>>96835993
You’re not fooling anyone.

>>96835993
kek

>>96835993
What games?

>>96835993
Tell us about it anon

>>96833187
>What game?
Shadow of the Weird Wizard has orcs but they also have playable rabbit-people, the Haren. They're anarcho-primitivists.

>>96833914
I've always wondered what percentage of monks were just autistic, nerdy dudes who didn't have an even shot in medieval society. Not that they weren't devout or anything, I'm sure they took faith seriously, but I suspect that similar to how nunneries were "fuckup woman containment zone", an isolated monastery would store the same man who becomes a comic book collector or IT guy in a couple hundred years.

>>96833214
>>96833854
>>96835990
>>96837156
Aaah, no answer because no games...

>>96833961
It's the belt, you fucking furry

>>96837384
I gave you an answer, the Haren from Weird Wizard. I ran the first bits of “Rage of the Goblin King.”

I actually did something like this in a game.

Instead of goblins, the land was being attacked by fey-descended creatures who resembled short humanoid rabbit-ish creatures. They lived in burrows and had a matriarchal structure, with each warhost having a large foul tempered queen. They were pretty desructive and regarded as pests until their burrow got large enough, after which they would form armies and sack towns.

I described them like they were fur-covered goblins but in truth I could only picture them as Max from Sam & Max.

>>96833101 (OP)
My druid PC actually got their arm ripped off by a rabbit demon a few months ago. They've since grown a magical wooden arm. We were never able to completely eradicate the demon infestation, a few lesser demon rabbits got away and our DM implied that while we stopped the growth for a year or two, the problem will just come back, maybe even worse. The only time our party wasn't able to outright defeat the monster/completely fulfill our contract.

>>96837369
That was literally what the clergy was for. Oh sure, there were no doubt some truly pious types who wanted to go into the service of God. Even today people sign take theology classes, get a Masters of Divinity, enter Seminary, and go through all the steps because they want to be a priest. But back then it was also a viable, non-embarrassing career for middling noble children who weren't in line to inherit anything and showed no talent in the military or elsewhere for that matter. Hans from Frozen? Thirteenth of thirteen sons? He wouldn't have been out trying marry some random princess. He would have had a Roman collar around his neck.

>>96833101 (OP)
Rabbits are more of a goblin analog than an orc analog.

>>96834946
IT is. It's Arifureta.

Small critters look especially unsettling also when they are drawn large and looking intense.

>>96839400
Regular European hares look unsettling crackheads without any modifications.

>>96833101 (OP)
*goblins

>>96839584
They're the same monster, stop letting D&D lie to you.

>>96839584
Gobbits*

>>96839400
Okay that’s actually terrifying
Also fuck that crow just watching it happen

>>96839591
are goblins the child orcs?
or is it a pygmy subrace of orc, like how hobbits are technically just a kind of men?

>>96839709
That is a part of the D&D lie. Orcs exist within the same range of heights as humans.

>>96839852
I don't like the idea of 6ft goblins. Doesn't really feel gobliny anymore.

>>96839439
They really do look like grasshoppers

>>96834972
Bunny Googol
With the goog-goog-googl-y eyes
Bunny Googol
Had a wife 4 times his size

>>96833515
>>96833841
>>96833914
>>96834037
Serious answer, IIRC the snails were because they called this group of people they were at war with snails as slurs so they drew them as snails like propaganda posters. IDK about the rabbits but it could be something similar.

Aren’t rabbits like the most delicate and pathetic creatures in the wild? They can break their backs just from running too hard? They can get a heart attack from being spooked too hard?

>>96833101 (OP)
I counter with: instead of elves, rabbits.

Elves put everything into dexterity because they're too weak to fight, so they flee as fast as they can. Replace orcs with badgers, and now we have something to talk about.

While technically furry, Redwall did this sort of thing really well and is genuinely pretty well-written. Hares become brits, squirrels become scots, badgers become wise giants, moles become dwarves, and things like owls and snakes become large fantastical monsters. Id highly recommend giving the series a read if your looking for low fantasy, medieval conflicts in definitely not england but everyone is an animal instead of a nationality

>>96833101 (OP)
Would that mean my garden would be ravaged by orcs and my kingdom by bunnies?

I guess my only option is to join the order of the coyote. No matter how many times they think they wipe us out, we spring back up.

>>96842700
My pet mouse was named Martin.

>>96842735
>Orcs are obsessive agriculturalists, but nothing they plant can be eaten by humans/they're considered weeds
>Fucking Orcs have been though again, they planted goblinweed in with my wheat, the crop is ruined and now the barn is being overtaken by it

>>96833101 (OP)
>Minding your own business looting some ancient dungeon
>See this in the darkness
What do?

>>96842798
Smack the DM across the face for a Monty Python reference that broke the dramatic tension of the scene.

>>96842798
>What do?
Thriller.

>>96843068
>Dungeon looting
>Tension
In what universe? That shit is always comfy

>>96842798
“IT’S A VICIOUS KILLER”

>>96842798
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U49R3Gqx8lw&pp=ygUSc3ViYXJ1IGJ1bm55IGRlYXRo

>>96840081
>look like grasshoppers
>hop through grass
>"bugs" bunny

They're up to something here, I know it.

>>96842798
I-I-I watched him for fifteen minutes, sitting in a room, staring at a wall; not seeing the wall, looking past the wall; looking at this moment, inhumanly patient, waiting for some secret, silent alarm to trigger him off. Death has come to your little dungeon, Wizard. Now, you can either ignore it, or you can help me to stop it.

>>96833187
Games not necessary.
/tg/ is for fantasy discussion general too.
Lurk more.

>>96842768
I like that. They're green because the green thumb took them over.

Rather than spiky armor and a taste for flesh, they're wearing those granny sun hats and the farmer Paladino's have to chase them off with brooms. Clifford scale dogs roam the fields

>>96843848
Poor Subaru ;_;

The fat ugly bastard comes in bunny form too, better hide your girl

>>96833101 (OP)
"Can you run? I think not. I think not."

Cute buns :)

>>96833101 (OP)
Rabbits will never escape the monty python memes.

>>96840071
Call them orc or hobgoblins at that height, but they're still goblins. The idea that the various words for goblin are all different things is an advent of D&D. Hell, even kobold, which came into English through German still has its roots in the same Greek word we get goblin from.

>>96840071
>I don't like the idea of 6ft goblins. Doesn't really feel gobliny anymore.
What if they're creepy, lanky fuckers while Orcs are Neanderthal-esq swolemanlets? Does that work?
Creeping, sidling, crawling, lanky things that slip into any gap they can and lurk right behind you while you're shitposting, waiting for the chance to strike.

>>96834063
160 years of War and still going
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=778Da7NCF6s&pp=ygUYcmFiYml0cyBhdXN0cmFsaWEgcGxhZ3Vl

Bnnuys

They also eat people

>>96850120
>Orc and goblin aren't just different names for the same creature
You are gross and wrong.

>>96833101 (OP)
I like it

>>96833854
>Random With Dice
You don't even need the other boards.

>>96840071
Greenskins are greenskins.

>>96843068
>Smack the DM across the face for a Monty Python reference
Kids these days. No respect for tradition.

>>96856279
Even in the "olden days" there were agreements and compacts in group to not bring up Monty Python at the table. Largely because it could easily cause references to spiral out of control and lose all sense of tone.

>>96833101 (OP)
Mutant was like this in the 80's: Rubbits are the only ones having no trouble replenishing their numbers in the postapocalyptic wasteland, so they've established fascist/expansionist city state societies and constantly send out patrols to raid/enslave other settlements.

>>96833914
>screenshot about ancient shitposting
>it's already decades old

That’s no ordinary rabbit

>>96833961
A giant orange strap-on belt, clearly

>>96839584
>>96839709
Earlier editions considered orcs as "goblinoids", same as hobgoblins and bugbears. Which is the correct take.

I do not believe LOTR would be improved with this change.

>>96833101 (OP)
Very cute.
>>96833187
Your anus.

>>96833187
Can you fuck off for once

ok, I have and now my players are making fun of me for ripping off Warhammer fantasy beastmen, what now?

>>96833214
y tho

>>96833101 (OP)
sure

>>96833515
I read something about how rabbits (being perceived as harmless fluffy critters) were used to showcase cowardice in medieval works, because only a coward would flee from a rabbit.

>>96842798
Run immediately, trip party members if I have to.

Rabbits are such pathetic creatures
They die of fright so easily and they can break their backs just from running away too hard

Bump

>>96868525
Because

>>96869798
If you only eat rabbit, like completely only rabbit that you hunt, you will starve. Rabbits don't have enough nutrients for any living creature, no matter how many you eat.

>Pathetic

>>96833101 (OP)
No.

>>96869798
So, actual warrior rabbits the PCs get to fight feel no fear and never run away? Badass.

>>96877465
Most combatative NPCs are like that.

>>96877731
Back in my day most everyone had a Morale rating!

>>96878428
Never let your mobs fight to the death every time. Beasts will always run when near death, sentient creatures will beg for their lives (as long as they ain't orcs).

>>96845499
Nogames cope.

>>96833854
>You do play games right?
Not any with orcs, retard

>>96880350
We don't sign out posts here on 4channel dot org. Please spend some time lurking before you start posting.

>>96833187
atomicrops, the enemies in that game are largely bundits, mutant bunnies who have organized to kill you.

>>96833914
>In one bar, a picture depicts two men playing dice.
>One shouts "Six!" while his opponent holds up two fingers and says, "No, that's not a three, it's a two"
I don't get it.

>>96881519
>Scenes three and four form a two-frame narrative, where two real men – with wiry bodies and short-cropped hair and beards – get into trouble over gambling. In scene three they are playing dice (figure 5). The man on the left holds the dice-cup in his right hand and says: ‘I won’ (exsi). His companion asserts: ‘It’s not three; it’s two’ (non | tria duas | est). This disagreement turns ugly in the following scene, where the two men, now standing, come to blows (figure 6). The man on the left grabs his dice-partner, who holds a fist up to his face. They exchange insults. The man on the left says ‘You no-name. It was three for me. I was the winner’ (noxsi | a me | tria | eco | fui). The other responds, ‘Look here, cocksucker. I was the winner’ (orte fellator | eco fui). The innkeeper wants none of this. He tells them ‘Go outside and fight it out’ (itis | foras | rixsatis).

>>96833187
Brancalonia introduced rabbitmen landsknechts that behave like old school orcs in the Empire Whacks Back sourcebook. You can even play as one.

>>96833101 (OP)
<3

>>96833101 (OP)
Instead of angels. Rabbits.

bnuuy?

>>96887506
bnue

>>96887506
>>96889009
bnunies

>>96834972
kek

>>96833101 (OP)
kyute

>>96858280
Trying to separate Orcs from Goblins feels weird, especially when WotC isn't trying to make a list of subraces for Orcs right now
All they have as far as I know is the Orog and the Orog are just the obligatory Underdark variant that some races get

There's this artwork of what someone THOUGHT bilbo looked like. It wound up looking like a Mouse tailed Rabbit.

So perhaps instead of Orcs, Rabbits for Hobbits.

>>96904394
Didn't Orogs use to be half-ogre orcs?

>>96904443
You know, that almost works, particularly in 3e with the luck bonus to saves and OD&D with the thieving skills. I think in 3e halflings also get a bonus to Jump?

>>96903191
MODS

>>96847318
How dare you slander the boss.

>>96904828
>Didn't Orogs use to be half-ogre orcs?

Yep, what they are changes per edition but funnily enough they were half-ogre's for 2 editions

>>96871749
o

And they breed like rabbits

>stupid lolrandom thread being kept up this long
This board's really dying, huh.

>>96913521
You hate fun

>>96913521
You're right, we need another hundred "why warhammer/dnd/(insert game here) is dead" threads right away

>>96833101 (OP)
What’s that from

>>96833101 (OP)
I feel like an oldhead in that no one has mentioned blood-c yet

>>96918703
anime

>>96833214
How about the other way around?

>>96919478
No

>>96912218
What else could you expect them to be like, soccer referees?

>>96918703
>>96919364

>>96839018

>>96918786
I was going to but can't find my screenshots, sankyuu for posting it.

What’s with the Japanese and their love for rabbits

>>96869217
>Imagine thinking that was the only one

>>96925423
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare_of_Inaba

>>96925717
Look at the BONES

>>96925740
>Implying you're going to have time to look

Rodents deliver truly painful bites

>>96929384
That they do.

>>96938672
Cute bunny.

>>96868939
I hope the myos are doing okay for themselves in the outskirts

>>96940219
I think it's ugly.

>>96833187
D&D

>>96942611
I think you're ugly

>>96842700
the animated series was great, and kind of traumatic for a kid, as all great shows are
>Azzzzzmodeeuuuuussssss
>AZZZZZZmoDEIIIIIUUUuuuusssssSSSSS
>*the sounds of bones popping out of their sockets*

>>96947337
bun

>>96947337
Marshmallow

>>96833187
Danmachi

>>96840206
>>96833515
>>96833841
>>96834037
>>96869210
The answer is, as it very often is with ancient history, "we don't know". We can put forth a bunch of theories, but essentially there's no all-fitting solution. We can only look at the art this era produced and try to interpret how the people who made this kind of art saw the world, and what the snail and the knight might have represented to them.
Sauces for general interpretations:
>https://nicholasrossis.me/2019/04/07/what-did-knights-have-against-snails/
>https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20231221-the-mystery-of-the-medieval-fighting-snails
Sauce for the snail as Longobard interpretation:
>The Snail in Gothic Marginal Warfare
>Lilian M. C. Randall
>Speculum, Vol. 37, No. 3 (Jul., 1962), pp. 358-367
>https://www.jstor.org/stable/2852357
Contribution from The University of Chicago Press

>>96874232
Rabbits also need to eat their own shit, because they can't digest what they graze in one go.

>Pathetic

>>96953113
weird

>>96954107
It really is. That's the medieval mind for you.

>>96833187
Your asshole

>>96959988
Come on, anon. We all know his silly ass got no game.

>>96953404
Plant matter is like that. When food was scarce in some WW2 sieges, they had to pick chunks of corn and such out of their crap and eat them because there was no other food (luckily for them, and I'm not actually being sarcastic there).

>>96833187
Uplifts:heirs of the future

>>96960398
Entering his ass is my kind of game

>>96833101 (OP)
Yeah. I read that doujinshi.

>>96965670
Sicko

>>96833515
Future historiologists will puzzle over pre-FTL depictions of cartoon frogs with things on their heads on archived image boards. Maybe these frogs were spiritual totem animals and the things on their heads are offerings to gods.

>>96970517
I believe this