Thread 96949186

I'd like to share a story that I find emblematic of the current "D&D Community."

There's a pub where people (used to) play 5e drop-in pickup games. Approximately half the people there were, well, a horrible stereotype of trans/non-binary leftists playing non-binary tiefling warlocks having loud self-indulgent tea parties and not actually playing the fucking game. I say this part just to characterize the general vibe of the crowd; the rest were...well, a bit Reddit is the meanest I'll be to them. There seemed to be some mild segregation; women, trans, NBs and the fabulously gay/queer in one camp, conventional-looking dudes in another.

Anyways, this one evening I'm drinking at said pub, and a group of these 5e players are also sitting at the bar on intermission, and, get this, one of them is a biological woman of average midwest attractiveness. Also around here are three of the conventional-looking dudes, also varying levels of midest average, everyone mid-to-late-20s. One looks a lot like Charlie Day. They're not exactly vying for her attention, but there's a sense that they're trying to engage with her socially. She'd joined them at the bar, it's not like they relocated to harass her.

The biological woman has her phone out on the bar and is openly swiping through Hinge, loudly shitting on the profiles she sees. The dudes around her tepidly try engaging with her, asking about female perspectives on dating and such. Her answers are, not terse, but flippant. She's not really looking at any of them.

One of them asks her if she's ever been on a Hinge date. The biological woman replies
>Chuh, no, I don't want to get Assaulted

>>96949186 (OP)
What does the woman's love life have to do with traditional games?

the literal tranny discord camping out on /tg/ isn't going to like this but keep going.

For the record I'm in campaigns for both WoD and D&D 3.5 with long-time buddies of mine and thus have no similar problems, so you have my sympathies.

Okay but who's she playing as

Also first for phony and homosexual

>>96949186 (OP)
>Continued
I'm starting to regret paying attention. The conversation continues, and the charlie-day-looking one offhandedly mentions being gay (he's not fabulous, just well-groomed).

Immediately, her entire affect changes; she turns towards him, full loving eye contact, chin resting on her palm.

I see the hurt in the eyes of the straight dudes as they realize they no longer exist to her. This is what their social scene is like. This is the woman they encounter IRL who shares a hobby with them. Intermission ends and the rejects shuffle off back to their inclusive diverse 5e game.

>Chuds have to literally make up stories to feel good about their outdated, dying believes

Sad. Low energy.

>some guys tried to talk to a girl
>she only paid attention to the fag
I don't care if it's fake or not; it's a shitty story.

>>96949237
>On another evening, we were hanging out at this same pub in the lounge area, and saw a card on the floor. I crouched down to examine it. Decent cardstock, oversized.

>Carefully, I turned it over.

>It bore a black X in sharpie.

>"Troons have been here"

>>96949217
Based fellow 3.5e chad.

>>96949343
The "I don't want to get assaulted" story happened some time after I'd tried attending this pub's 5e night.

There were only a few people in the room, I tried engaging in idle smalltalk with a guy (fat, odd voice octave), asked him about the build of his 4th-level human paladin. He was terse in his responses, so I took the hint. Then more regulars turned up and he immediately became warm and social. The topics of conversation were
>A disgusting bigot lives near me.
>Free Palestine
>such-and-such Fantasy series is so Queer, omg, you have to read it.
Me: Traditional Games?.JPG

A short girl with dark curly hair sat down next to me, and gave her a polite greeting.

She immediately went on a rant at me about Gatekeeping Mansplainers.

I got up and sat at another table.

>>96949217
Remember when we used to talk about games?
At some point the stories became shittier and shittier, and I've always had the thought that since 5e came out, the ethos of these games has changed and the scene in general has become gayer and more unfun.
/tg/ stories used to be about overpowered wizards, cool moments, stories from people's campaigns.
Now /tg/ stories are like, "I met a faggot tranny today, and he was annoying."
What a nightmare.
I'm going be real with you, I refuse to be friendly with trannies. Not for religious or political reasons; I've just interacted with enough of them that I've accepted that they're like a human cancer.
Do you want to hang out with dumb, mentally unwell, political extremists? What if I told you that this hypothetical player also had autism, was ugly, and smell heavily of BO and cum? Would you want to play with him if I told you he's also a sex-pest who is going to eye-rape any women he sees, meanwhile he's also going to insist on talking about his """pussy"""?
Trans people are just nasty motherfuckers, unfit for civilized contact. I don't want to hang out with stinky, ugly, annoying lunatics. The fact that they're trans is just an obvious red flag that leads smoothly into all these other nasty traits.
Really wish these mongrels would just self-detain themselves to their discord servers and stop venturing out into public.

>>96949504
Trannies are not the problem. Chud shitters like you are. Please self-detain yourself in /pol/.

>>96949504
Trannies are indeed the problem. Please stay, chudbrother.

>>96949533
>Trannies are not the problem. Chud shitters like you are. Please self-detain yourself in /pol/.

>>96949582
No need to post selfies here, this isn't /soc/

>>96949186 (OP)
Closest I got was years ago we were playing online (yes I know but bear with me) and the DM ghosted the players repeatedly, kept cancelling sessions. We finally get back to it after multiple weeks of delays and cancellations. We start the session and about halfway through we suddenly hear someone angry sounding talking over his mic. He mutes, and minutes later he messages the rest of the members "session's over".

I had just re-created my character to play since I put actual effort into the backstory, and hearing this I proceeded to straight up lose it and go off on a huge rant, getting kicked out. Game apparently fell apart eventually after that.

On some level I knew I was in the wrong for chewing him out as vitriolic as I did, but he later came out as a tranny and all things considered I probably dodged a bullet at the time.

>>96949582
Bronie
Trans
all the same.
they are all delusional young men who have very odd ideas on
what they should do with their lives, so they sell out to
feminism and systems upheld by the rich.
It's very very sad.

Xi needs to ship no-gunz areas guns so we can have more shoootings.
not mass shoootings...specific shoootings.

>>96949731
For sure!

Kirk was only the first one. We need more!

>>96949504
This literally happened to /k/ a million years ago. moot deleted /n/ because it was just /stormfront/, so all the stormfags went to /k/ because weapons = redneck = likely to support muh politics. They started by making up fake stories about people acting like retards at the range, and all the people in the stories happened to be black, and over time they just started posting niggerhate threads with a pistol for the OP, and over time again they just kind of stopped caring about even pretending to make the thread weapons related. moot had to assign a moderator to clean up the board before he made /pol/ to corral the shitters, but here they are, coming to /tg/ to whine about trannies and make threads extolling the virtues of Nazi pedophiles.

>>96949775
The difference being, I encounter nasty ass trannies out in the real world, meanwhile all these nazis that harass you are all concealed firmly on the internet, and primarily inhabit the world of your own delusions.
Your political ideas basically just boil down to retarded fanfiction narratives that are invented and spread on twitter. Even this little anecdote is you just making up shit about the internet, because you--like all trannies--are a terminally online, delusional retard who lurks on the internet constantly.
People don't like you because you're annoying, generally disgusting, and insane? You'd rather just make up conspiracies about how people only hate you because they're le nazis, because there's no universe where you will fucking EVER take accountability for your own behavior.
People don't like you because you're fucking gross. That's it. End of story. Everything else is you just making up leftist cope so you can be a weasel forever.

>>96949905
>/pol/chud concedes defeat and starts crying

You will never be a man.

>>96949217
My trans player loves 3.5. We're all having a blast.

>>96949186 (OP)
There's something really spooky about the bright Penguin Club vibe of modern D&D that leads me to believe that the design intent is for the fantasy world to be a saccharine and happy place where everyone basically gets along, with evil and villainy being active dissent from the natural order of cosmopolitan pluralist faggotry.

Contrast with even a few short years ago, where the landscape of the default 4e fantasy world is a hellish wasteland full of nightmarish danger with only a "points of light" I.E., beacons of civilization standing above the darkness. It's been completely inverted, where now every scene seems to be people in nearly first-world splendor, there's no sense of danger or malice in the world, it now seems as though if evil exists at all it's in designated evil areas.

It's fucking wild to see this presented unironically. It's like D&D for Quokkas. It's also understandable--Dungeons are things you have to go into, Dragons are things you brave in the Dungeon, the basic mode of D&D is indeed that you leave a safe place (town, tavern, etc.) and go and seek out danger, but the presentation matters, and this presentation speaks to a complete and possibly deliberate misunderstanding of what is appealing about Adventuring conceptually.

I think fundamentally D&D was an escape from boring normalcy to a fantastic world of danger and violence and heroism--and has now become an escape from anxiety in the real world to a fantasy of safety, comfort and positivity, with heroism being affirmation of the self. It's really depressing to think about where we must be societally for this to have happened.

>>96949995
Well observed anon, hear hear.

>>96949905
>The difference being, I encounter nasty ass trannies out in the real world, meanwhile all these nazis that harass you are all concealed firmly on the internet,
Arguable, but a fringe position
>and primarily inhabit the world of your own delusions.
hahahahahahahahaahahahaha no

>>96949775
Anon, that was 15 years ago. There has been a generational change in the intervening decade and a half. Trans ideology took off in that time, and infected everything due to being funded by NGOs and being forcibly inserted into all media to try and normalize it. That very action of trying to force everyone to play make believe with mentally ill leftoids bred enormous resentment--just like trying to force everyone to pretend that black crime and buffoonery isn't a cultural plague bred enormous resentment.

At each point the corresponding surge of "-ism" has been a reaction to an astroturfed push from the top down to force people to go along with obvious falsehoods. Obviously anywhere where these falsehoods are repeated, you are going to get people who come in to start trouble in the same way that the easiest way to find Fedoras is to go to where people are having a religious discussion.

But one thing that should be obvious is that this is now a multi-generational cycle. It's not the same people. In many cases it isn't even the same ideology. You've now ended up on the receiving end of the Creationistt vs Evolution debate, and you're going to have to suffer through it just like the Christians did, until by the end you will admit that the Earth is not 6000 years old--I.E., YWNBAW.

>>96950135
Please, take your meds.

>>96949995
>with evil and villainy being active dissent from the natural order of cosmopolitan pluralist faggotry.
It absolutely is.

>>96950135
What are you even talking about you schizophrenic?

>>96950135
>Trans ideology took off in that time, and infected everything due to being funded by NGOs and being forcibly inserted into all media to try and normalize it
USAID being made public revealed that this is factual and people on this board are still calling you a schizo for it lmao. You really can't reason with these "people".

>>96950148
*is depicted as such, I should say.

>>96949186 (OP)
>>96949237
I'm sorry to hear about your unpleasant experience, anon. Personally I have had pretty good experiences with trans and NB players across over a decade of gaming. Here are the trans players I've played with since getting into the hobby:
>E
She's an insanely talented roleplayer, though a bit of a drama queen at times. Luckily her boyfriend (or now, husband) can help resolve things. She's also an artist and has drawn the whole party time and again. Played a bard in our 5e game. Longtime friend.
>A
Almost as good at roleplaying as E and much less dramatic. I don't know her as well, but she's also a musician and has composed theme music for our characters. Played a warlock in our 5e game. Decently-long friend.
>D
My best friend and better at system mastery than me. Currently playing a warmage in a 3.5 game, and really fun to hang out with. Absolutely happy I brought her onto a long-running group for a new campaign after the last one wrapped up.
>R
They're a little peculiar and intimidating, but a solid person. Played a paladin-like class in our SotWW game. Don't know them that well.
>S
Again, don't know that well, just that he played a rogue in our SotWW game, and was good at it.

>>96950135
>rightoid
>thinks he isn't an unscientific cunt literally shitting on innocent people because of his hurt feelings

You guys are sometimes cute in the sad, pathetic, clueless way. But usually its more of a subhuman shit.

Like this >>96950179 lying piece of shit. USAID proved nothing of the sort. But you know that and are just lying.

>>96950179
Replying to yourself doesn't make you seem any less insane.

>>96949928
Please find the strength to detransition like I have. It is an awful lifestyle and the truth of it and the monetary exploitation will come to light in due time.

>>96950240
HRT and social transition just make me happy.
Never cutting my dick off tho.

>playing on an open table with number of trannies and non-binaries greater than 0
OP, you are your worst enemy. Trannies and whatever the fuck non-binaries are even supposed to be are to be shunned and segregated alongside communists and other societal refuse.
In my country, these fuckers are not even recognized by law, and D&D is chill, as the drama-causing fags know that their shit does not fly in a place where a man in a dress is still a man.
Hell, I play weekly at a Daggerheart table alongside my main D&D table, and things are actually pretty serious, with no theatre kids drama and the likes, just using another system for a change.

>>96950250
>In my country
Go back to the meat grinder, ivan.

>>96950252
Wrong country, balkanite here.

>>96950240
Not trans, but thanks. You will never be a real man.

>>96950245
Literally the way I was until reality caught up. It will catch up with you too like it did with me. Please detransition. The truth of this awful lifestyle will come to light in due time.

>>96950258
Sorry, got my rightoid shitholes mixed up.

>>96949458
And then everybody clapped.

>>96950137
Calling me insane is not going to change anything, Anon. It may be convenient for you to pretend that everything that bothers you is the same group of 12 people, but we are now talking about broad cultural forces encompassing many tens of millions of people and two or three generations of cyclical dialectics. It's not going to stop, and it cannot be contained. Look at how hard our forebears tried to contain it, in its prior iterations, and look how it ended every time.

You are now engaged in a holding action to force people to pretend that their lived experiences are false, but you have no way to actually enforce this mandate. You will discover, as so many others have discovered, that over time your untenable position will gradually sink underwater, and you will become an object of scorn and ridicule, despite you not having changed at all. It will be like trying to hold your breath, to maintain your long-held positions in the face of overwhelming social change. Like having your face covered with layer after lay of wet paper, at first breathing is easy, then hard, then impossible.

Finally you, as everyone else in your position always has, will break. And you, like everyone else, will admit that the Emperor has no clothes, and then you will shift your position back above water: "It's OKAY for the Emperor to flash children in public!" and the process will begin again, but the memory of drowning will increase the background anxiety of your life forever.

You can get out now, Anon. The water will be no gayer for your drowning, no less cruel for your endeavor. Save yourself while you still can, and withdraw, or like Caligula's army stabbing the ocean you will find yourself only salty and tired.

>>96950240
>>96950266
What did Reiko do to you, dude?

>>96950271
tl;dr

>>96950268
That's ok. For the future, there are differences for those used to spotting them - you can tell by the fact we don't call everyone in the west trannies, and that we don't seethe about the US randomly. We still hate trannies, though.

>>96950250
I don't get it anon. I've never had any really bad experiences with trans players. I talked about my personal experiences in >>96950205 but as an addendum, my worst player ever was a cis guy. But even he wasn't THAT bad.
How the hell do you find awful players?

>>96950261
I was born one and always was one even when I was in denial of it.
Be on the right side of history and don’t support the self destruction of other people.

>>96950271
All of those words to say nothing besides some schizo babble. But I guess that's how the dying gasps of failed ideology sound.

>>96950288
>How the hell do you find awful players?
Trannies always bring drama and make it all about themselves and how they are pretty little princesses, and the worst player I've ever had was a furry.

>>96950290
You will never be a man. Just a failure of a person who bought into the right wing grift.

>>96950275
No idea what you’re talking about.

>>96950299
>Trannies always bring drama and make it all about themselves and how they are pretty little princesses
That is not my experience at all. Most of my trans players have been excellent to good players, as I laid out. I am sorry to hear your experience has been worse.
>and the worst player I've ever had was a furry.
Really? Huh. I've had a couple furry players, and while clearly deeply autistic, they were also committed to the game and both got art of the whole party commissioned.

>>96950287
Apologies then. You will be dealt with just like russia. Because of the rightoid shit.

>>96950208
Actually, the fact that the NGOs which funded this propaganda were all backed by the State does prove that they were astroturfed for political reasons, yes.

But let us move to your seething. I am not cute, and I do not evoke any such emotional reaction in you. Your latter assessment--that you see me as less than human--is more honest and refreshing to hear, since it cuts to the meat of what I mean. At core, this is a religious conflict to you, and those who disagree with you are Infidels to be excoriated and purged. At one time there was even an inquisition to this end--but it failed. You are absolutely seething that you have chosen an indefensible position and that the social capital that allowed you to impose it on others is disintegrating.

I am here to tell you Anon that you are not going to be able to keep this up forever, and every day that you try it is going to get worse for you. The generational cycle has begun to drag your religion under the water. It cannot be stopped and clinging to it as it is destroyed will only destroy you.

There is still time to escape. You can still be free of this torment--you need only turn away from your chosen path of martyrdom and forget that you ever believed the lies of John Money. Like so many others you will have to find a new religion, but that is the spirit of the age, no?

>>96950307
No right wing grift shook me out of this. I just woke up one day and realized it was all an impossible pursuit and that was the most painful of day of my life.

Please stop emulating the bigotry of the right. You’re supposed to be on the side of tolerance and understanding.

>>96950318
>Most of my trans players have been excellent to good players, as I laid out
Not a single one of them is anything but an autogynophiliac. You supposedly have multiple trans friends, with a condition that is, when real, rarer than schizophrenia, but you somehow got surrounded by the 0.2% of not just mentally ill people, but mentally ill who got encouraged to put on a dress.
Let's be serious here.

>>96950331
>Please stop emulating the bigotry of the right. You’re supposed to be on the side of tolerance and understanding.

You don't know shit about me, rightoid-kun. And your story is full of shit, just like yourself.

>>96950324
>Because of the rightoid shit.
Heads up, everyone, the commie in the dress is about to deal with us. Better make way for the absolute unit coming our way.

>>96950328
>John Money
But trans people predate him? Modern trans culture emerged at the Institute of Sexual Sciences in pre-Nazi Germany. Babylon had trans temple prostitutes. Scythia had trans priestesses!
You're sounding awfully ahistorical there.

>>96950342
I know my friends better than you, lol. Yes, I have multiple trans friends, because I hang out in hobbies that trans people like to hang out in and I don't try to drive them out through bigotry.

>>96950208
>USAID proved nothing of the sort. But you know that and are just lying.
You can actually just give this a cursory google and find out how fucking wrong you are. The only people who think USAID was a good thing are people who have their mouths sewn to the DNC propaganda anus. If you look into the actual spending, it becomes pretty clear that the whole institution was just a feeding frenzy of liberals embezzling money.
>Be Democrat.
>Want to embezzle money, but can't be too obvious.
>Have USAID give 50 million dollars to tranny surgeries in Shitterstan
>Your Shitterstani catspaw takes this money, spends 10 grand on trannies, and then they pay themselves the rest and donate some back to you, because there's literally no oversight or accountability over this money whatsoever.
>One hand washes the other, and now all of this (Public!) money is in your pocket, paying for your re-election campaign.
>When people start wanting to put an end to this shit (Institutional embezzling on a massive scale.), just throw a bitchfit about how you need to steal money from taxpayers or else they're racist.
>This is a compelling argument to retarded leftists, who don't live in the real world and just listen to any retarded propaganda they read on the internet.
>The liberal faggots who love this shit want to accuse EVERYONE ELSE of oligarchy, because their only response to political controversy is to accuse everyone else of the shit they get caught doing red-handed, and they know their retarded political serfs will vote blue no matter who and believe whatever retarded lies you sell them.
And now, here we are, with you defending that garbage like a fucking retard. You just take it for granted everyone you're talking to is a moron like you are, also getting all their information from a curated diet of whacky lies from twitter.
You think you're normal, but you're just some brainwashed extremist retard. Everything you believe in is a scam.

>>96949186 (OP)
>pub
>woman of average midwest attractiveness
Say "warm water port" next.

>>96950350
You fuckers wish you got commies back, fake nations. Please try to keep up.

>>96950364
>wah, wah, people are helping out LGBT folks around the world

Wow, music to my ears. Worthless, politically dying scum passing away.

>>96950291
If you don't want to heed my warnings that is fine, it is nevertheless a great burden off of my shoulders to try and help you. You will realize in time that I was right, and I hope that when you do, you will remember that I tell you this not out of cruelty, but a genuine desire to help you avoid a lifetime of resentment and anxiety.

And it is precisely because my ideology is dead, and that I watched it die very slowly, and fought against that death to no avail just as you are now, that I am trying to warn you.

>>96950348
I know you need to change and grow as a human being for the better if this is the way you treat others who’s lived experience contradicts your worldview.
So once again please change and grow for the better as a human being.

>>96949186 (OP)
Is there some reason we should care about your blog post? Would you like to discuss a game system, or ask for advice on a game mechanic you're considering for including in a product you're developing?

>>96950355
>I hang out in hobbies that trans people like to hang out in
The psych ward is not a hobby store.
Are you a fucking speedrunner? Cause otherwise, you purposefully surrounded yourself with other degenerates, in normal societies even two of them ever meeting is a slim chance, and you somehow ended up with a whole list (and likely on a list, given that you are all deranged degenerates)

>>96949207

OP is just playing "meeting a woman" in his head.

>>96950376
>le edgelord /pol/ack has verbally jerked off

Give your sword a rest, samurai. Else it will fall off.

>>96950377
On the negligible off chance that you are not lying: your lived experience is worth nothing against statistical evidence. You feel better? Good for you. Stop sucking off right cucks.

>>96950392
>Are you a fucking speedrunner?
Nah, but I'm into Paradox games and TTRPGs (especially 3.5), and play both online.
And everything I've said here is true, btw. It may upset you to hear that I've met regular people and not the boogeyman you're terrified of, but it's absolutely genuine.

>>96950410
>I've met regular people
These "regular people" are so rare that even meeting each other would be hard to achieve, and someone even supporting them feeding their delusions by dressing in drag should be criminal.
My mind cannot comprehend what hobbies would make potential pedophiles and other forms of degenerates congregate, I hope it's not children's games like Pokemon, cause then I have questions, and you are certainly on a list.

>>96949754
Enjoy your ban.

>>96950405
It is not sucking off the right wing boogeyman rent free in your head to realize the lifestyle is just impossible and finding peace with who you were biologically born as.
You’re very bitter and need real help like what I got when I was in my own rut.

I hope you change and grow for the better anon.
I’m not partaking in this anymore.

>>96949775
And thank god for that. Anything that pisses you off is good.