Thread 96951175

Maybe next edition edition

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>>96943521

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>Thread question:
There's still a bit of weekend left to discuss the reveal show, so let's do that.

>>96951175 (OP)
>Maybe next edition
I've been telling myself that every edition since I joined the hobby for all my armies.
>TQ
Happy for nurglebros. It all looks so good. Shame that the old Blightkings kit has to go, though.

>>96951175 (OP)
>There's still a bit of weekend left to discuss the reveal show, so let's do that.

I couldn't be more happy as a nurglebro, I hope that other factions get this type of release too. Fingers crossed for fyreslayer and ogor frens.

>TQ
Im looking forward to playing dark water, or at least painting up the minis. Dont know if Im gonna collect a full ass army just yet. Not really in a rush for that, but I do hope sylvaneth gets something beyond a pity hero.

>>96951267
Nurgle's not too bad to get into, they're about as close to Custodes as you can get in this fuckin' game.

Next year release schedule guessing

>Using the blood of tainted arachnids and other transmutative ingredients, varanite being amongst the most prized, the expert stalkers and trappers of the Brood perform profane rituals and employ bubbling potions to rewrite the laws of the flesh. Specifically, they are interested in inducing mutations that mirror the sacred spider‑form. Their most infamous trait, however, is the unity in which they act — almost like a psychic gestalt. Whatever the source of this phenomenon, it allows the Tarantulos to commune with the spiders that inevitably accompany them. Many enemies have been overwhelmed by these creatures, either brought down by hundreds of tiny venomous bites or feasted upon by creatures swollen to a terrifying size.
Would you join the psychic gestalt?

>>96951175 (OP)
>OP pic
I unironically think they're going to get soft squatted and replaced with proper Dark Elf knock-offs. I've literally never seen anyone play them ever except for competitive players and their boxes have been rotting on the shelves at every LGS I've ever visited.

>>96951332
Man you have no idea how much it annoys me to be reminded of AoS content from just a few years back and then remembering that all the YT video content was delisted for no explicable reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hFahk6gyRY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjpRi1B-ugk

How do the Helsmiths breed? Do that marry?

>>96951394
Presumably they fuck and suck just like other duardin do.

>>96951394
they mention marriages and childbirth in the battletome, yes. they're biologically dwarfs

>>96951175 (OP)
Why would they have more akhelian infantry when the role of cannon fodder is the lot of the namarti?

>>96951394
You fuck that plump mommies they have is a shame those go to war too

>>96951394
after being an incredibly small population in fantasy i imagine hashut learnt his lesson and went full shinzo abe and told his new chorfs to have sex

>>96951370
Warcry dead is a lost for this game, specially considering the amount of cool miniatures that died there

>>96951175 (OP)
>pic
Personally I'd like to see some client races. I mean they're an empire. The first thing they did after fleeing Teclis was to carve out lebensraum on the ocean floor. It could be fun if they got some units to represent subjugated denizens of the deep sea. Maybe there are creatures who aren't hostile but whose souls aren't well suited for reaping. Or sea witches who bartered knowledge for safety. Or whatever.

>>96951461
the models being so cool and unique is probably what doomed it, they're not like Kill Team where they fit the vibe of the full army. Like Cypher Lords, don't fit any Chaos army. Wrecka Crew, absolutely slots in with the rest of Orks

>>96951461
What the fuck are you trying to say

>>96951588
Tbf they tried doing the kill team thing with gorgers and the little hunting squad for cities and people bitched.

>>96951588
Cypher lords are literally just Kairic acolytes with bondage harnesses and chestplates

I need the scans for the HoH battletome, helsmiths of hashut is a friend long love from the past and he ask me to do a battlemat based on that army and I kind of need the battletome to see what kind of stuff they use for decoration etc.

>>96951614
give me a sec.

>>96951626
Don't give that guy your tome, that's clearly some esl who can't even ask properly

>>96951636
I have the half a gig uncompressed version so I can't catbox it anyways apparently.

>>96951614
the art is all in articles on warcom from the week before the army set release.

>7777 years to reach daemonhood
Was it worth it you think, anons?

>gates of azyr
>card game within the Aos universe
Gw if you ever plan on making (another) card game set in Aos please fucking hire some decent artists and someone who understands game design. And don’t just rip off magic.

>>96951781
>average adult lifespan is 70 years
>get to live 100x longer than a normal human

I'd say so

>>96951781
Who cares time is pointless in this setting

>>96951781
He looks like a mix of charlie kirk and a flapjack character

Where's the FUCKING roadmap

>>96951175 (OP)

WIP of my skaven girls. lineart is done, coloring in one week.

God damnit painters tape doesn't hold this fucking pouring resin in. Internet forums are full of LIES.

>>96952099
cute rats

>>96952099
Ass not fat enough, lady rats get thicc

>>96952101
I've never heard of anyone having good luck with tape. I hear a lot of people suggesting tape, or claiming theyve used tape, but never seen anyone show their process who also used tape. Look up how redditors do acrylic pour tables. Most of the time they are physically screwing borders into the edges of their piece as well as using caulking to ensure no spills. Not that it'll clean up the resin off your floor or fix your piece, but you'll at least know for next time

>>96952120
Thankfully the resin hasn't dried it is a fucking mess right now though which is really god damn annoying. I just wanna have my glotkin in the ocean damnit. The most success I've had was using those plastic cake wrappers with hot glue but that's inconsistent since I suck at applying the glue without having holes and then I find out hours later that there was a leak and I got a fucked up model.

Should have my first game playing with HoH this weekend.

How much of IDK's lacking popularity is because they don't have a full army list and how much of it is on people not liking the concept? I think it's super strong personally but when I realized running a bunch of namarti was a requirement, I picked up a different faction.

>>96952138
Use some kind of weatherproofing caulking. Lots of them are peelable particularly if you live in a cold place. I think using every single fastening method will leave you something that is total overkill, but won't let you down again.

>>96951886
still the same as the shitty rumor engine. Fyreslayers getting new units, ogres getting a refresh/new units, and one of the death factions getting new units. That's probably it till summer of next year, please enjoy.

>>96952223
I'd like them more if they were shoeless

>>96951600
A cool helmet, cool chest piece, better looking weapons, that's pretty much all it would take to fix the acolytes.

>>96952223
>when I realized running a bunch of namarti was a requirement
It's not.
Their unpopularity is a lethal combo of having gorgeous, but admittedly challenging to paint minis with several on flight stands, a higher than average skill floor, and a small roster that has gotten continually passed over for updates. Concept could play a small part, but people generally do like the idea of them.

>>96951588
Cypher lords look more like an IDK unit with their helmets with what look like fins on them and a blue color scheme. On the official paint job it even looks like they have waves painted on, genuinely confused how they ended up as LRL.

>>96952228
I'm more annoyed I decided that this was a good idea to do for basing that wouldn't make me positively miserable. It looks cool when it's done but the process is never easy.

>>96952223
mostly the former from what I've seen
the word abortion gets thrown around a lot for them
or people mad as fuck about eel spam; I don't know if that's still what they do, but it's what gets said when anyone even remembers IDK exist

>>96951592
"Warcry's death is a loss for this game, especially (...)"
Maybe he was using some kind of speech-to-text
>>96952269
>confused how they ended up as LRL
They were StD. Should have been Tzeentch, though.

>>96951781
You mixed up the characters from tbe shitpost

how good of a skaven start would it be to get skaventide and the christmas box?

>>96952538
2k instantly

>>96952228
Okay anon, they're double insulated and sitting by a cold window, AND IT'S SNOWING. I'm gonna get back to working on my blight kings. Did a rewash to help get some shade in on my other ones since a couple threads ago an anon mentioned they could use some work.

>>96952272
>>96952564
I do a lazy water effect basing for my marines for 40k I could share the recipe if you're interested. You definitely don't get the same depth you would out of true pourable water effects but it sells wellĺ enough and just uses paint.

>>96952594
I mean that's a much smarter idea, but i'm an idiot and like to suffer, also it looks neat having the water effect from the side. I uh, haven't figured out waves yet but it's fiiiiiiine.

>>96952600
I think waves you want to use a wide flat brush and stipple your white water effect in little lines. Check out some of the model train guys on YouTube, or paepercuts might be a good channel for you to check out. He's doing similar stuff to what you're trying
https://youtu.be/IruH5yS8ugk?si=-VqcSOFf4Drj1e56

>>96952620
Ya know it's funny, my dad does model railroading and yet I don't think he's even done stuff like this. Preciate the tips anon.

>>96951352
>>96952223
>>96952263
>>96952279
I'm the anon who was considering starting AoS with Seraphon or Idoneth Deepkin in the previous thread and finally decided on Deepkin only to read here that they are "a unpopular abortion in danger of soft squatting"

Should I reconsider? I mean I was suspicious when I saw I could still buy the old Spearhead without a problem...
Is it a bad idea to start collecting Idoneth Deepkin right now?
I like their models and I like their lore but now I'm worried.

>>96952713
Ignore anyone saying a faction is gonna get "squatted" so far that's only been beastmen so they could get hauled off to the old world. I doubt any of their units are gonna squatted as well because everything looks nice (unlike say some fyreslayer stuff)

If you want to collect idoneth I say go for it, they're a neat faction. I personally do not care for elves but chase your bliss and all that.

Where can I see all the Spearhead Battle Tactic cards? Will be playing in a tournament soon and I'd like to go over all the tactics cards since I'm not the fastest reader and I don't want to waste peoples time.

>>96952752
Another high cosideration was Seraphon or Soulblight Gravelords (who are getting a battleforce). I can also find the Skeleton Army Set for SBGL.

It's not so easy to decide. I'm not CRAZY about elves in general but I like Idoneth's underwater theme.

>>96951823
>gotta spend the entire time covered in boils and shitting my pants constantly
>mindraped into thinking this is a good thing actually
quite literally the worst method of immortality

>>96952802
So I've played quite a bit of SBGL, it's a weird faction. You've got the most annoying chaff, all of which on full death can be brought back once per game (per unit) at half strength. a 20 block of wolves is nigh immovable in most cases and infuriating.

Also if you like named characters they're the faction for it, every vamp is pretty strong, probably a wizard, and can self heal. On top of that vampire and skeleton cavalry hit like trucks and can be buffed to be even scarier.

Also skeletons, those are pretty neat. I got like 40 deathrattles and 40 graveguard. They're fun to paint and you get lots of em to paint. The zombie half of SBGL is in need of some more support but otherwise they're a solid faction.

Now that the dust has settled, do we have any ideas on why Helsmiths of Hashut failed to make much in sales or impact?

>mfw all my armies combined have less warscrolls than maggotkin
really kills my interest in AoS

>>96951175 (OP)
Did I miss the preorders for the christmas boxes

>>96952822
Alright. I'm going Vampires. I'll get the Battleforce, Cursed City and the old Spearhead. Might be much but it's get it now or never I guess.

>>96952859
Next saturday.

>>96952843
It's not always a bad thing. Helps with analysis paralysis

>>96952868
Shit I didn't expect that, uh. Well I hope you enjoy anon. Remember, don't just get chaff, you need hammers for your anvils.

Also Kritza is good, Radhukar the beast is a one man wrecking crew, and skeletons are the best.

>>96952713
Don't listen to fags on a bhutanese kite making message board , get whatever you like the most. If that's IDK, go for it. Seraphon are really cool too, to be fair

Anyone got a print of Warcry Pyre and Flood’s booklet

>>96952843
Sometimes I really wonder why GW has such a huge hard on for Nurgle

>>96952837
Well he works here (for $0)

>>96952887
Yeah I know. I'm now looking what to get that is limited.

Also is this the same box? Looks to be the same. Seems they are counting the gravestones as miniatures in the Spearhead version. The Vanguard is a bit cheaper so go with that?

>>96952903
The lead mini designer is a Nurgle lover for both AoS and 40k.

>>96952903
>khorne is super generic demons
>slaanesh is too nsfw
>tzeentch is harder to get across
>nurgle is just fat green guys with boils
it really just makes sense why they’d focus so hard on nurgle

>>96952900
> files(dot)catbox(dot)moe(slash)2yr8i2(dot)pdf
here you go my friend

>>96952907
It is, and yes. Might I reccomend the old skeleton start collecting with the mortarch kit. You can pretty easily convert Arkhan to be on foot as a necromancer or wight king and you get a mannfred or neff (or both the chair and head are easy to magnetize)

Cursed city is good for the models but fair warning most of it has been legends'd. Radukhar the not beast is the only survivor. (Cool fucking models though)

>>96952870
its a bad thing for me since I enjoy list building and having tons of options.

>>96952928
List building even when you have a big roster still feels like shit with all the weird hero and unit limitations gw arbitrarily puts in place.

>>96952925
I doubt I'd be able to find the old Start Collecting. I will look. As for Cursed City I'm just getting it for the models. So I'll get the Vanguard as it's 10$ cheaper. Then I'll probably get pic related or the old Army Set when I paint it all up.

>>96952945
Rock on homey.

>>96952919
Thank you kindly buddy

>>96952903
He got fuckall since the 1e wave

>>96953075
yeah, i mean what did nurgle actually get during age of sigmar?

slimux and the harbinger, and the GUO. and a warcry band. i think thats it right? everything else was end times and before. maybe the sorcerer on foot?

>>96953123
Pusgoyls. Tree. Beast of nurgle. Great Unclean One.

>>96953143
pusgoyles werent end times?

>>96952945
Old wight king is a treat

>>96953157
No.
Oh and also the scribe herald and jester herald were post-ET

>>96953179
Not like there's a new with king

>>96953157
Surprisingly no, though the plaguebearer version is.
Nurgle aos stuff before current reveals is:
>horticulus
>GUO/rotigus
>gnarlmaw
>scribe herald
>piper herald
>beast of nurgle
>blightlords/lord of afflictions
>lord of blights (not to be confused with 8e lord of plagues)
>Rotbringer sorcerer
>rotmire creed
>harbringer of decay
And then two underworlds warbands, although they're just alternate sculpts at the moment.

>>96953186
There's a bunch on horses thoughbeit

>>96953179
Yeah I think I will get the current Spearhead next as the discount on the Skeleton Army Set is pretty shit and the old king is great.

>>96953186
There were a couple from what I checked but they were all named like the commemorative ones and the very awesome Underworlds Warband.

>>96953211
Heads up, you can get sons of Belmore in the bundle
https://www.warhammer.com/en-CA/shop/warhammer-underworlds-morbid-minions-2025?srsltid=AfmBOop8rzLCB5_ENNucLQjTub9cxiK9RjtHYaZLxEe7ATAd0Dq0-dCc

>>96953244
Yeah and there is the other one with the vampires. I'll have to get both at some point.

Big boxes, big prices

>>96953366
>over 400 AUD now

Alright so with maggotkin announced we're almost more than halfway through this edition's battletomes already. These 12 (soon to be 11) are the remaining factions without any battletomes yet.
Of these, more than half have reasonably credible rumours as to their future this edition. The ones left out are:
>lumineth
>tzeentch
>slaanesh
>seraphon
(Additionally DoK and Sylvaneth only have some vague rumours about krethusa/kurnothi respectively)
What do you guys think is in the cards for these guys in 4th? Any special hopes or fears? Personally I think it'll be mostly pity heroes + terrain/spells for them, since the rest of the edition is already looking very packed release-wise. I like lizards and I would love a refresh of saurus guard or something, but I think it'll more likely be a hero and maybe a coatl incarnate if we're lucky.

>>96953381
how many large waves do we get per edition?

>>96953381
Sylvaneth don't really have rumors, not that I've seen. The usual leakfags haven't said anything to hint at new models or rules changes this edition. That there's a wave of Kurnothi stuff incoming sounds plausible, but people didn't get that from the rumor mill.

>>96953381
Aside from Tzeentch those factions are it good positions and can get away with a pity hero.

>>96953429
I'd like some sort of priest for Sylvaneth.

>>96953366
If anyone's wondering, when buying straight from gw full prices would be:
>Trolls
296 yuro, so around 32% discount
>skaven
296.5 yuro, so again around 32%
>vamps
315 yuro, around 36.5% (though bats are like €50 which is overpriced as fuck)
>trees
a bit difficult since it comes with 20 dryads while they're sold for €45 in groups of 16, but if we count 20 dryads as 56.25 then that comes out to €306.75, at around 35% discount.

>Tldr
trolls and rats 32% off, vamps 36%, trees weird but 35%

>>96953429
seraphon are one medium-sized wave away from being completely up to date and set for life

>>96953449
You know what? Fair.
Old World will probably come knocking for those skinks eventually.

>>96952925
>Recommending a box out of print for several years
>>96953381
>Sylvaneth
Very popular army with high sale numbers so I guess it is possible that GW will spoil them with more then a pitty hero. Also maybe they will get rid of Dryads considering the TOW dual use?
>Tzeentch
Could need some love and the release space that maggotkin now got. Fleshing out the Chaos Warrior type of units would be neat because currently it's merely Deamons and Goats. But I doubt this will happen this Ed.
>Seraphon
Similar to Sylvaneth a fan favoriute so might be getting some love
>Slaanesh
Yeah I guess a pity hero will be all this time
>DoK
I kinda hate the idea of more Krethusa and Elves bullshit. It was supposed to be Morathis faction and now it's turning back to some Dark Elves revamp which will only suffer from deviating from DoK instead of becoming it's own thing

>>96953485
>get rid of Dryads
That would be a dick move since they put 20 of those bitches in the Christmas box.

>>96953485
DoK aren't popular besides in waacfag circles so they are doing what they can to save that army. Malerion's elves will probably be a shadowmonster mash and not really elves.

>>96953449
>>96953478
I made a shitty ms paint overview because I was curious, their refresh was actually really sizeable. (duplicates hidden and marked with a x2)
I'd say of the pre-aos kits the carnosaur, starpriest and bastilodon hold up perfectly, the stegadon to me too but I've seen people say it shows its age in certain parts, the terradon/ripperdactyls depend on the build, while the oldblood and saurus guard are the only ones that really need the refresh. Skinks are kind of odd because they're absolutely ancient but hold up surprisingly well. GW is probably going to want to refresh them too though, especially when keeping in mind that gw might want to use those older sculpts in tow eventually.
I think given the popularity of lizards it's not unreasonable for say an oldblood pity hero, spells/incarnate, and then a refresh of either skinks or guard to go along with it.

>>96953411
Ogors and Bonereapers will have big waves in 2026. I assume the rest will be a pity hero and then in 2027 one big wave and new edition.

>>96953381
Tzeentch really need some attention but I'm guessing that'll be in 5th at the absolute earliest.
>>96953416
Huh, I was under the impression there was a kurnothi rumour related to underworlds. Something like "dok and sylvaneth will get warbands that will herald future releases" and then we got a krethusa one and a sylvaneth one. Something like that idk.
>>96953505
I think it was implied by one of the usual guys that malerion's guys would be souped with them when the time comes

This kit is so cool but it bugs me that they're all masculine

>>96953551
Look forward to the faun girls then.

>>96953558
I was, but then it turns out they aren't happening. All the Rumor Engines showing Kurnothi stuff were for Darkwater. Kurnothi are going to stay a weird sidegame only thing for the foreseeable.

>>96953558
No more furries.

>>96953519
This was the medium-sized wave I was thinking
>skinks update (bows/atlatls)
>stegadon update
>eternity warden underworlds band
>coatl elemental
going the extra mile during a campaign
>lord gar on carnotaur
no need of a scar veteran or oldblood on foot because you get one from the carnosaur kit
and besides stuff like that can be handed out as pity heroes in the following editions

>>96953539
>malerion's guys would be souped with them
That doesn't make any sense.

>>96953574
I'm crushed man. I was so excited for a furry elf subfaction :(

>>96953411
Depends on what counts as large I suppose, let's see.
1st edition
>stormies
>khorne
>fyreslayers
>ironjawz
>sylvaneth
>tzeentch
>more stormies
>kharadron
>nurgle
>dok
>idk
so around 11(!) large waves
(man in hindsight releasing both dok and idk like a month apart was kinda crazy, they just shat out new armies back then)
2nd edition
>more stormies
>ghosts
>gsg
>obr
>sons of behemat (does this count as a large wave?)
>lumineth wave 1
>slaanesh wave 2 (wave 1 was pretty small
>lumineth wave 2
>vamps
around 9 waves, but depends on what you count as large honestly
3rd edition
>even more stormies
>kruleboyz
>std
>seraphon
>cities
>ironjawz
>fec
>std darkoath
8 waves, though technically no new armies
4th edition so far
>more stormies
>skaven
>gitz
>vamps
>hashoot
>nurgle
Pretty decent considering we're only halfway through, 6 big waves already

>>96953551
We have dryads for "girls", I guess?

>>96953569
they should bundle all the existing kurnothi into a playable spearhead and leave it at that

>inb4 that's not a kurnothi
honorary

>>96953615
It’s a shit idea but the game would be healthier if underworlds didn’t legends shit

>>96953615
the darkwaters heroes are not on individual sprues, they're doomed

>>96953522
>bonereapers
I don't think it'll be nurgle or skaven tier, I'm guessing more like cathay wave 2. Like 3 or 4 new kits to have fun with. Which would be really nice honestly.

>>96953632
A clever company would slap the assets onto a new sprue that also includes upgrade bits for the kurnoth hunters and perhaps an extra faun or two.

>>96953615
That's a nice idea but replace all the not-trees with more trees.

>>96953656
This but replace all the trees with not-trees.

>>96953576
>>skinks update (bows/atlatls)
I hope they get atlatls, they're pretty unique. I do think it's more likely that we'll get a melee/ranged dual kits rather than a double ranged. Come to think of it atlatls also make it easier to combine with melee build options, design wise
>coatl elemental
man people have been talking about this so much I'm going to be dissappointed now because no way gw is smart enough to do that. We'll get a shitty chinese jungle swarm spell like GSG spiders probably

>>96953612
>honorary
If 4 Darkoath kits count as a large wave you should count shit like Kharadron and Deepkin this edition

>>96953522
>>96953633
Dont give me hope....

Why are our threads always so dead?

>>96953706
Ben got banned

>>96953690
They most likely will, good for you

>>96953706
we slow down posting when you're around specifically to drive you off

>>96953706
You're always free to post models, ask questions, share ideas or stories, etc.

>>96953673
kharadron got the equivalent of a pity wave and a repurposed warcry kit that never was
they're definitely not a big wave

and the idoneth shit is a big wave only if you're autistic about the elemental

>>96953706
we're not 40k. Also I think the timezones for people who visit the general are kinda weird. I a good 1/3 of it is from NA, maybe another 1/3 is from europenis, last 1/3 is probably from LATAM.

>>96953613
Now that we know Kurnothi aren't happening, I'm thinking the Dryad kit is getting replaced this edition. They already showed off a new Dryad design that's way more in line with the rest of the Sylvaneth range, and they can send the current kit back to TOW
>>96953615
God, just put Kurnoth's Heralds in the Sylvaneth tome as a unit! It's three centaurs, it shouldn't be some special named thing, just let me run some centaurs!

>>96953706
oh excuse me, I'll be sure to start shitposting so we can be as "active" as /40kg/

Trying the Blanche thing on this mega boss. Is the skull okay? I think it really needs a wash and I fucked up on the layering process.
I’m am planning on doing a cool blue for the pants but I’m not sure about the black segments of the armor yet

>>96953721
>we know Kurnothi aren't happening
Do we?

>>96953718
It's the middle of the workday in yurop, and i'm pretty sure it's either night or early morning in america. Thread's a lot more active than it usually is around this time honestly.

>>96953721
ohh man right I forgot about those new Dryads from Warcry. They're cool as fuck, I'd instantly jump on a a full kit of them.

>>96953632
the Blackstone Fortress heroes weren't on individual sprues either

>>96953730
skull looks perfect to me, but im easily amazed ill be honest to you.

>>96953615
Remove the darkwater stuff and that's actually possible, the darkwater stuff is locked on sprues with other shit.

>>96953717
The Kharadron wave "felt" like a bigger wave than it was because the new units filled a big hole in the army's aesthetic. They express the sky-pirate dwarf concept better than the old kits, so seeing them was like, "oh damn, Kharadron on the scene now"

>>96953673
eh darkoath also had abraxia, the oathboand and some terrain. though I forgot savagers were a repurposed warcry warband that came out earlier

>>96953736
>It's the middle of the workday in yurop
>not shitposting on company time
weak

>>96953733
there were two major reasons to expect Kurnothi to be released in the near future.

>1
During a previous reveal stream when they revealed the Kurnoth's Heralds Underworlds band, the announcers said they were a taste of things to come.

>2
Multiple rumor engines showing what were clear Kurnothi design elements

But all of those rumor engines turned out to be for Darkwater. Which also means that Darkwater could be what the announcers were saying was the followup to Kurnoth's Heralds.

So we're back to square one, with no reason to believe that Kurnothi are coming any time soon, but they're still so prominent that it feels really weird that they aren't.

Genuinely, I was kinda crushed by that reveal stream. I was so excited for Kurnothi and Corsairs, and we got neither of them.

>>96953765
>corsairs
I don't know too much about 40k but some of my friends are really excited for these guys but I don't really see what they add. They just seem like normal eldar painted in dark eldar colours to me. Exodites seem like the far more interesting option personally, but again I'm not really into 40k. If done well exodites could tempt me though.

Looks fun.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/pm4r36ou/an-adventurers-guide-to-warhammer-quest-darkwater-what-is-the-jade-abbey/

>>96953799
>Everything begins with the Everspring, a font of crystal-clear water blessed by Alarielle the Everqueen. This sacred liquid is essentially supercharged Aqua Ghyranis – one swig and any mortal illness is cured, any wound healed without a scar, and with regular administrations one can achieve a sort of immortality. More than just providing a five-star spa day, the Everspring is a vital artery of life energy for Ghyran, even giving the Everspring Swathe its name.*

>Naturally, such a powerful resource was closely guarded, and a stronghold known as the Jade Abbey was constructed around it. The monastic order that inhabited the Abbey trained a sect of warriors to prevent certain Chaos gods – mainly the jolly plague-spreading one – from seizing it.

If it was so important to Alarielle and the Swathe then why are there no Sylvaneth involved here? Why were they not there and guarding the place?

>>96953799
>THE GUSH
shouldn't make me laugh. I hope if the story sees the gang cleanse the place, we can get a look at how it looks once its cleansed afterwards.
Also I dig the art, i fw it heavy. Even the maps good.

>>96953745
>>96953738
On top of black stone fortress sprues being highly coveted, I fully expect 40k degenerates to eat up most of the stock of dark water. It will sit in their pile of unopened 30k and kill team bundles while they put contrast paint on space marines once a week for 1 hour and post about it in discord

I’m very excited because I like everything in the set, but I’m really hoping that my country gets a decent supply or it’s in constant production as to not be a FOMO

>>96953765
Are kurnothi the centaur guys or just any mortal sylvaneth units devoted to a certain god?

Judging by the Druid and shapeshifter in dark water, I’d say they’re happening eventually. I would love to see it too. Ghost trees are kind of wack but mortal Druids and tree huggers are awesome

>>96953814
that art is pretty cool

>Inverted waterfalls, part of a complex realmstone-powered system built to ferry precious liquid up from the Everspring, carry tainted water from the depths. Even Pust and his followers are yet to breach the lower levels of the abbey, and rumour has it that the Sanctum of Life so far remains unsullied, though the rot and ruin of Nurgle is all but inevitable. It’s now up to you and your band of heroes to battle through the Jade Abbey and prevent the corruption of the Everspring.
Potentially some expansions coming down the line, then?

>>96953815
>Are kurnothi the centaur guys or just any mortal sylvaneth units devoted to a single god

>>96953821
Looks like Boyd has been at the head of developing Darkwater's visual identity. While Cursed City was more the purview of Kevin Chin.

>>96953815
>Are kurnothi the centaur guys or just any mortal sylvaneth units devoted to a certain god?
Per the most recent fluff out of Warhammer Underworlds:

>Though Kurnoth no longer strides the realms as an embodiment of primal predation, his worshippers and warlike offspring can still be found everywhere life blooms. In his absence, they continue to venerate him through rituals of the hunt.

>The Kurnothi are not a single species but a gathering of aelves, centauroids, tree-folk and other entities that pay homage to the Hunter God. Most — but not all — are Sylvaneth, forest spirits bearing seed-like organs known as lamentiri and possessing an elemental connection to the Realm of Life. Others are mortal beings of flesh and blood, imbued by lineage or divine blessing with the hot-blooded aggression of their patron. Though Kurnothi roam far and wide, their sacred homeland is Kurnotheal. They ruthlessly defend this ranger's paradise from anyone foolish enough to trespass on its tangled pathways.

>>96953796
Corsairs are just really cool in the lore, Prince Yriel is a fan favorite character, the Kill Team we got is fantastic, and the rumor says they'll come with a new Vyper kit replacing one of the oldest models in the game.

While I also prefer Exodites, Corsairs are also a much easier add. If you want to run 2,000 points of them the rumored kits won't be enough, but some very simple conversions to existing Eldar kits will let you run 2,000 points that look very Corsairy.

Exodites could very well be a Kroot situation, where you technically can run 2,000 points of them but you'll really be feeling the gaps in the range. And adding regular Eldar units would require much more significant conversions if you want your whole army to look Exoditey. So everyone wants Exodites, but there's more trepidation about what that would actually look like. But Corsairs are nothing but upsides

Also, we have rumors that we're getting both by the end of next edition, so everyone wins.

>>96953834
I honestly don’t give a shit about sylvaneth and resent them for denying us mortal Druids a la night elves from wow

All I know is that kurnoth is some other god or important guy on the orange bug and his followers are called Kurnothi

>>96953848
>Most — but not all — are Sylvaneth
If most are sylvaneth then why are most of the ones we get models of not sylvaneth?

>>96953805
ehh, you can handwave it away as being part of the Age of Myth where all the gods and races worked together in relative harmony. Like, the Everspring wasn't just Alarielle's thing, it was important for all the Realms, so she didn't feel like she had to guard it specifically herself it could be the responsibility of all, yadda yadda yadda

>>96953862
Interesting, so are they like a mix of normal and dark eldar? I thought that's what ynnari were supposed to be
>>96953864
the dude on the orange bug is kurnoth's herald, like krethusa is for morai-heg, or morathi pretends to be for khaine

>>96953865
?

>>96953865
because kurnouth hunters are said most

>>96953881
Why are they clones?

>>96953876
>Interesting, so are they like a mix of normal and dark eldar?
Basically, yeah. Eldar who live on Craftworlds have to follow specific Paths to keep them on the straight and narrow and not fall to excess again. Those who find that life too constricting can take the Path of the Outcast and go wander around being a space pirate for awhile until they come home and get a real job. But some never leave that Path, staying Corsairs their whole life. Corsair crews can also be an option for Dark Eldar who for whatever reason want to get out of Commoragh.
What's interesting is that this wasn't reflected in their models at all until the recent Kill Team. All the old Corsair stuff (picture related) just looked like regular Eldar.

> I thought that's what ynnari were supposed to be
yeah I really want to know the behind the scenes stuff about the whole Ynnari mess. What's very interesting is that the new Corsairs Kill Team, which blends Eldar and Dark Eldar aesthetics just like the Ynnari character models do, came out a few years after the Ynnari were introduced.

I have a conspiracy theory that the Corsair Kill Team was originally designed as a Ynanri infanttry unit. Bu then, for whatever reason, they decided to make it Corsairs instead since it worked with their lore too.

>>96953722
Thank you. Now get on it.

Are you getting any of the Battleforces?

>>96953959
Probably not? was rather hoping for a stormcast or blades of khorne box.

>>96953919
thanks for the breakdown, appreciate it. And yeah, from what I can gather gw seems to have backtracked pretty hard on the ynnari stuff. Shame, since I'm a zoomzoom and the visarch is actually the first model that drew my attention to warhammer in general, after which I got into aos. Well, I hope 40k players get their corsairs someday. Was this rumour what boole was talking about earlier then? elven prince from the maelstrom or something?

>>96953967
Probably but Yriel was leaked a while ago. Honestly none of the 40k stuff he mentioned was his leak as it was leaked ages ago by Valrak.

>>96953959
Vampires, most likely.

I kinda hope we get a tie-in novel for Darkwater. The setting seems fun.

>>96953967
The elven prince is definitely Prince Yriel. He's one of the biggest deal Eldar characters and a fan favorite, and he used to have a model. The Maelstrom is an area of space that the Red Corsairs hang out it, Chaos Space Marine pirates led by Huron Blackheart, who is also rumored to be getting a new model. So Boole is saying that one of the narrative books for 40k Will b Chaos pirates led by Huron Blackheart fighting Eldar pirates led by Prince yriel.

Which would be insanely sick
>>96953959
Man, I tried so hard to figure out a way to get value out of that Sylvaneth battleforce and I just can't. THREE SPITE-REVENANT KITS?! WHO THE FUCK WANTS THAT MANY? They released that exact same set like five years ago but with one of the Spite-Revenants kits swapped for a Treelord, and that alone is enough to make the old box like ten times better and more useful.

The current Spearhead, which is a fantastic box and easy to justify buying two or even three of, has a unit of Spite/Tree-revenants. Which means that if you have bought even one copy of the Spearhead, buying that battleforce gives you too many fucking Revenants.

If you want Drycha, buy Drycha and a Spearhead and you'd be way better off.

Fucking hell, imagine if they'd done a bug rider-focused box with Alarielle, or a Kurnoth box with Belthanos and a bunch of Kurnoth Hunters. I would have bought either of those in a heartbeat.

>>96953835
Really digging the vibe
also like the reference (?) to alarielle's 'crown' in the statue

>>96953959
This looks really boring. It’s likely a product of the range being small but the revenants and dryads read as the same thing. For somebody unfamiliar with the faction it seems like a bunch of little trees and a medium tree and a big tree

OH WHAT THE FUCK. I was looking up the previous Sylvaneth Battleforce that was just this year's one but better, and I discovered that there was another Sylvaneth Battleforce from a couple years before that.

GW has done three Sylvaneth Battleforces.

AND EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM INCLUDED DRYCHA, TWO UNITS OF SPITE-REVENANTS, AND A TREE LORD

THEY'RE RELEASING THE SAME BOX OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WITH THE SAME FUCKING NAMED CHARACTER

>>96954031
shit he's on to us

>>96954028
Just off the top of my head, imagine if they had done this as the box. How fuckin sick would that be

>>96954031
She was also in the Broken Realms box. It's been something of a running gag among sylvaneth collectors.

>>96954031
>different treelord build every time
lel sneaky fuckers

>>96954031
they gotta sell her somehow

get ready for the spitegrove spearhead coming soon alongside the tome

This is my Freeguild Command Corps War Surgeon from Chamon.

>>96954061
I wish there were more viny revenants like Ylthari. It's a rad look.

>gnoblars are kill
rip

>>96954077
good riddance

>>96954049
Buyers remorse after trying to build any of those kits

>>96954049
You missed one

>>96954104
Unfortunately we are not allowed to have elite infantry units of anthropomorphic spites. We get furry elves instead.

>>96954031
>the revenant wargrove came with an extra fucking tree lord instead of 5 wimpy ghost trees
>was probably cheaper too

To be fair, they’re model rang is so small weak that they really don’t have many options without giving you TOO much value and we can’t have that now can we?

The new one would have been more appealing if it had less chaff and some
Kurnothi hunters or flying bugs

>>96953959
None of them interest me, no.

I think that each year we arw getting worse and worse Battleforces for both games.

>>96954161
posting slop contributes to the enshittification of all things

>>96954175
Good

>>96954077
I kind of expected it after GW put Gnoblars in the new spearhead honestly, it's exactly what they would do.

Also:
>Fyreslayer/Dispossessed update is 12 kits, including new breeds of magmadroth.

>>96954061
Fuck, I'd buy that. No Dryads and only one unit of Spite-Revenants

>>96954063
yeah that works OK

>>96954193
12 kits sounds like a lot, I'm assuming he's counting dual kits and stuff

>>96954237
He reacted to someone else clarifying 12 kits total, so not all of them will be Fyreslayer kits it sounds like. Still, 12 kits is a ton, that's a full on new army release, especially assuming some of them are dual kits.

>>96954049
Replace Alarielle with another unit of dragonflies and an an arch-revenant or warsinger and I'd buy 2.

>>96953765
We'll definitely get Kurnothi eventually, but honestly at this point Sylvaneth seem to be in the same place as every other Elf Army-rumors of shit on the horizon but not right now. I think 5E is looking to be the Elf edition at this point, there's just no real room to update elves alongside all the other huge updates we've gotten or are coming soon.

>>96954297
Bit weird to go so hard on dwarfs in 4th and then go hard on elves in 5th. Surely you'd want to spread it out so you've got a big elf and dorf release each in 4th AND 5th? especially with votann also in 40k getting a fuckton?

>>96954316
>Bit weird to go so hard on dwarfs in 4th and then go hard on elves in 5th
dunno how it'd be weird. If you're implementing a new faction like helsmiths you'd want to see reactivity for other duardin races. Same way how when Slaanesh eventually comes back in earnest, you'll want to see how the other elves react.

>>96954139
>spites
If you're gonna whine then just call them bugs. Calling them Spites just confuses people as to what you're even whining about, since most anons believe Spites = Spite-Revenants.

>>96954334
Sure, from a fluff perspective. But I mean business-wise you'd think they don't want to overload potential dwarf players by dropping 2 new armies on them in a short amount of time, while missing out on potential elf players meanwhile, and then doing the same thing in reverse in the next edition.

>>96951175 (OP)
>Tq
Well all I know is that this guy is getting Kitbashed into Slaanesh the second the box Hits the shelves.

>>96954061
Weird how they don't utulise her.
Since Every moddeler seems to praise her for beeing a fun to paint model.

Kurnothi>Sylvaneth.

>>96954448
Didn't you hear? Most Kurnothi are Sylvaneth.

>>96953959
debating trolls but I've got a backlog, on the other hand it'll sell out and I've got an amazon gift card.

>>96954237
>>96954248
No matter what they do they can't save this faction. I wish we got more alien high fantasy beings than just flavors of dwarves and elves.

>>96954603
We have already 4 flavors of elf’s.
Why we can’t have two flavors of dwarfs, anon?

the fact they are merging generic shitty stunties with fyrechads is infuriating to me.

>>96954603
eh wait and see, I think they deserve at least a fair shot.
>>96954618
We already have 3 flavours of dwarf in the game anon, sick art though, that magmahold in the background looks really cool

>>96954175
but dark fantasy slop looks so good

>>96953815
>I fully expect 40k degenerates to eat up most of the stock of dark water. It will sit in their pile of unopened 30k and kill team bundles while they put contrast paint on space marines once a week for 1 hour and post about it in discord
That is such a specific generalization but it’s an honest and brutal takedown LMFAO. I know the exact kind of people you’re talking about.

>>96954635
>3 flavors
How many of those flavors have a proper army? Be realistic, we are polluted by elf overpopulation of armies yet we only have one only way of play dwarfs.

>>96954603
>No matter what they do they can't save this faction.
If they let me design the units I could fix all factions with 3 easy tricks.

I am not joking.

>>96954645
it's not like idoneth of khainites are swimming (heh) in options at the moment either

>>96954629
For some reason they seem intent on basically revamping several armies to more closely resemble their WHFB counterparts. It's like they're trying to placate angry grogs from a decade ago. Shit's weird.

>>96954645
Elf armies are barely armies. Its either WFB models like DoK or all heroes like Idoneth. Sylvaneth is barely elves.

>>96954660
This. The fact they lazily shoehorned these retards in a book they don’t fit and that is already really cramped makes me think the same.

But is a really stupid tactic because both Gitmob and Fyreslayers have so much potential and room for expansion on their own making this kind of halfassed releases leave a bad taste in every fan of those concept mouth

>>96954660
Because TOW flopped and they need to focus on AoS again.

>>96954650
well, let's hear it then

>>96954660
if the bold new directions sold enough they wouldn't need to scamper back to familiar grounds.

>>96954673
Lmao you know what is “barely” an army? Fyreslayers. You field dwarfs and Mamadroths. On the other hand, LRL, IDK, DoK and SYLVANETH (they are elves) have every single one proper armies to play, stop seething.

>>96954698
Are you implying armies like Gloomspite, Lumineth, Ossiarch or Kharadron sell poorly?

Im just curious if the dwarves will continue to adopt the eastern dragon asthetics

>>96954710
I'm not implying night goblins are a bold new direction, no

>>96954721
>Fyreslayers more followed than Khorne and Slaanesh
>Ossiarch not even on the list
>Sons of behemath at the bottom too
Is clear then: Let’s erase DoK half of Chaos and SoB and make room for more Fyreslayers, Gitmob and Deadwalkers.

>>96954673
>Its either WFB models like DoK or all heroes like Idoneth
You're taking the piss, cunt

>>96954721
6k of followers boc? gwchuds maybe we made a mistake?

>>96954721
you know, slaanesh always escapes these discussions because they're a main chaos thing so they're unlikely to go anywhere
but seriously they're by far the most unpopular faction here, even fyreslayers and SoB mog them to shit
How do we solve the slaanesh problem?

>>96954660
The way I see it, if the people in charge of developing the game each have like 15-20 years of experience working on WHFB, then whatever they do with that experience is probably gonna bear some resemblance to WHFB.

>>96954776
kirby was right, slaanesh was to be slaughtered by and fused with elves

>>96954711
idk, im getting a little tired of the new aos team just telling people their collections are invalid. if the rumors about half the heroes and the vulkites being squatted are true thats half of most fyreslayers players armies. on top of what they did to the stormcast, beasts of chaos, and all 3 bonesplitters players, they're really testing just how much the community can take before they lose faith in the game as a product all together. why buy into a game when peoples armies are prone to just randomly being squatted or disassembled by the powers that be?

>>96954752
Take heart. Good gor things can still happen.

>>96954787
I never bought into a microfaction so I dont really care.

>>96954792
beasts and stormcast were not microfactions you retard

>>96954721
I can’t understand, Slaanesh got the perfect release, the models were awesome and the rules weren’t half bad…

Why is so fucking unpopular? And Khorne? Wasn’t he the most popular chaos god?

>>96954787
what baffles me even more is that it's an undeniable fact that the more options an army has available, the more popular it is, and yet gw intentionally shoots itself in the foot by limiting as much as possible cross compatibility and the full extent of kits options.

>>96954792
>Microfactions
Brainlet confirmed

Using Reddit as popularity scale somehow? Are we serious?

>>96954787
>if the rumors about half the heroes and the vulkites being squatted are true
eh I understand that sucks but at the same time the heroes all look very similar and can be easily proxied. I also highly doubt nufyreslayers won't have some basic infantry that you can easily proxy fyreslayers for, if they won't be straight up refreshed. Same goes for stormcast honestly, unless you really loved dracolines and ballistas your shit is all easily proxied.
Now beasts of chaos type squatting is a bigger problem, but I feel like that's an exceptional case with the whole tow divorce.

The new stinkers got fresh fan art

>>96954787
That was infuriating, i have the theory GW doesn’t even know what they want to do with Orruks in AoS.

>>96954603
>No matter what they do they can't save this faction
Pfft. If all they do is deliver some actual options for Fyreslayers (like droth Cav, which is looking more likely now) plus some decent looking new dwarfs to go alongside them I see Fyreslayer stonks going through the roof, easily.

>>96954682
>waah they made more good looking goblins boohoo
fuck off

>>96954806
who said they're unpopular?

>>96954806
Very intimidating to paint for newcomers, also not the cheapest faction in general.
But I think fundamentally the biggest problem is playing the "gooner god' is not that appealing a lot of players. Even actual gooners will probably play dok instead

>>96954876
Is not the fact they made good goblins stupid, they could make really awesome Malerion stuff in the future but if they somehow put them in the Lumineth book i would be pissed.

>>96954890
Read, dark skin man, read >>96954721

people acting like adding some dudes with pants to fyreslayers is another shoah.

>>96954806
slaanesh is simply extremely unappealing as a concept

>>96954787
OPR is right there (I say this as I’ve swapped over)
List building is actually fun

>>96954896
you aren't actually mad about this thing that has literally zero effect on you outside of saving you from buying another overpriced book, not buying it.

>>96954826
do you have a better metric?

>>96954831
By the furry, of course.

>>96954920
This. There is an audience for wanting to play an army of drugged out trans gooners, but it's extremely niche. Especially because it's not like the models are even actually sexy, it's just degenerate.

People will naturally get mad about Slaanesh being replaced because it's part of tradition, but that doesn't mean all those people wanted or ever will play Slaanesh.

>>96954836
they knew all along
they had black orcs as a popular iteration of orcs, so they expanded them into a faction
they had night goblins as a popular iteration of goblins, so they expanded them into a faction
then they complemented the gorky orcs by making a faction of morky orcs, and a faction of sun goblins to parallel the moon goblins
it's not difficult

>>96954964
Not difficult indeed, just horrible.

>>96954964
they shouldn't have made the lanky orcs and the wolf goblins and instead keep the morky moon goblins paired together with the gorky sun orcs instead.

>>96954982
>O&G pleaseee
to ToW with you, potato

>>96954982
fuck off, kruels are krool.

>>96954982
Leave the Gitz alone faggot. Is one of the few good things this game has.

>GW still doesn’t tell us if Dogwater will release for Christmas or not
It’s a month away James parents (and manchildren) are buying Christmas christmas gifts now, not 2 weeks before the 25th

>>96955037
Supposedly end of this month

>>96954831
People like em.

>>96955037
Next week is tow, then quest.

>>96954787
I highly doubt they're going to squat vulkites unless they plan to completely squat fyreslayers as a whole. If they plan on combining the faction with dispossesed, it stands to reason they're most iconic unit wouldn't be getting removed.
>>96954806
>why is so fucking unpopular
slaanesh is the most humanoid/mortal heavy of the chaos gods, even many of the demons just look like people with an extra crab claw attatched and that's not what a lot of people want out of a "chaos" faction. Also it's slaanesh, so having a bunch of androgynous, effeminate units including the big demon, isn't really appealing to the broader audience of warhammer fans. They want hyper masculinity, not the keeper of secrets.
>Wasn't khorne the most popular chaos god
maybe among casuals? Nurgle always seemed more popular among actual tabletop players to me.

>>96955101
>it stands to reason they're most iconic unit wouldn't be getting removed.
You mean the magmadroths?

>>96955101
>If they plan on combining the faction with dispossesed, it stands to reason they're most iconic unit wouldn't be getting removed.
As a Fyreslayer player, ehhhhhhh it's very possible. Vulkites are the worst looking unit in the army, and in terms of role they don't really do anything unique, people just play whichever melee infantry warscroll is more efficient between Vulkites and Hearthguard depending on the edition.

Plus, the Warcry Warband exists now and they are effectively better Vulkites both in looks and rules, so just slotting them in a basic infantry replacement is doable, though I think a new dedicated infantry kit based on their designs is more likely.

>>96955109
I said iconic, not best. Mirrored Imageson is the obviously their most iconic unit.

>>96955083
Lel that's pretty good

The issue with Khorne is just that the entire fucking faction are hand me downs from fantasy battle and it shows. Skullreapers, blood reavers, and maybe even juggernauts designed with circles in mind would go hard.
Also the mutations for Khorne suck, fin beards are ugly.

does anyone have a link where I can get the novels? ;-;

>>96955101
slaanesh looks like armored chaos guys you can play alongside demons which you cant with std, they also have the best combined arms. The faction isn't unpopular its just been repressed by bad rules for 4 years.

>>96955232
>fin beards are ugly ad fuck
They really are, where do they even come from? I don't recall cerberus being half fish

>>96955276
It’s a reptile thing which is even weirder.

>>96955232
Faggot, Skullreaper kit is basixcally the only mortal not made for AoS.
That's why they're orange and not dark red like every Goretise member

>>96954694
>trick number 1: big hats at all times
helmets, hats, topknots, horns, halos, crests, hoods, warhammer is made iconic by these and by giving things a culture those things arise from, no matter the fantasy race, clothe them with a culture.
>trick number 2: everyone is max lvl
nobody wants the basic shitters or the underclasses, everyone wants the elites and the extra, first and foremost. so pimp out the troops with the same full armors that cheap hacks reserve for the heroes.
>trick number 3: diversity is strength
unironically, kits shouldn't be redundant in how they look, their silhouette and size category or role, and even within the kits the individuals should feel unique and stand out in design, pose and equipment.


fyreslayers commit the sins of not having enough diversity
idoneth commit the sin of not giving their shit the cool armours
sylvaneth don't have anything on them
ossiarch troops are not elite enough
nighthaunt are too redundant
stormcasts are also repetitive
and so on for all factions that have issues selling

>>96955286
Anon they were made in endtimes

>>96955307
Bloodrever, Blood Warrior, all the Gorchosen, Khorne Gore Wrath, and KHUL all have a clear aesthetic ugly scorpion dudes and red skined Slaves to Darkness don't fit

>>96955376
can you try that again, in a more coherent manner?

>>96955083
Ye

>>96951175 (OP)
cringe

>>96955376
>Bloodrever, Blood Warrior, all the Gorchosen, Khorne Gore Wrath, and KHUL all have a clear aesthetic
which skullreapers match to a T

unlike skullcrushers

>>96955413
>>96955376
The only real identifiable aesthetic among the range are the blood warriors. The rest is a mess, at least in execution.

>>96954739
I wasn't talking about that abortion, clearly.

>>96955487
what abortion? beast-men?

>>96955487
>I wasn't talking about the best elf army in AoS
I mean, suit yourself.

Khorne new wave with new Khul, new Valkya and new units when?

>>96955470
blood warriors are the models in that range with the absolute worst aesthetic

thick ass trims, nonsensical fake-marine armor design, worst khornate helmets ever, overdesigned equipment

>>96955487
>I wasn't talking about that abortion, clearly.

>>96955553
very subjective opinion, but the gore knuckles are quite literally what define the faction. Its why the newest deathbringer adopted an evolution of it.
>>96955548
next warhammer quest I guess.

>>96955581
>Its why the newest deathbringer adopted an evolution of it.
that's a shield
and it looks much better

There is only one model in the new nurgle wave that's got his guts open

>>96955649
pestigors?

>>96955598
>that's a shield
Where it functions the same as the knuckles, but better, yes.
>and it looks much better
Yes thats how evolution tend to go.
Hopefully whatever khorne chosen units get adopted into the range hold the same philosophy as it.

>>96955670
they don't actually spill their guts or have them open

>>96955553
>worst khornate helmets ever, overdesigned equipment
Absolute pleb taste. Blood Warrior helemts are the most frequentky stolen bits by 40keks and brass knuckle shields combo is fucking brieliant for Khorne

New character profiles.

>Prince Kelthannor is a member of the Golden Hunt, a nomadic clan that worships the Hunter God Kurnoth. To earn the respect of his kin and the right to rule them as king, he must track and slay a worthy quarry, such as an enemy of the natural order or a fearsome monster of legend. The prince has chosen Gelgus Pust as his target, and he cannot return home or claim his crown until he succeeds.

>>96955690
Poeple complained about Nurgle mouth and tentacle spam, especially on Death Guard, so the designers adressed that

>>96955707
>Vorn is chief of the Arak Klor, a tribe of warriors from the savage realm of Ghur. Drawing their own blood with the strange artefact known as the Ebon Claw, they can take on the forms of mighty predators. However, his people have begun to suffer terrible mutations from this rite, and Drasher Vorn hopes to cleanse the rage of the Ebon Claw in the Everspring.

>>96955716
>Jacobus Vyne is a powerful mage of the Collegiate Arcane and a master of nature magic and Ghyranite lore. The dutiful scholar has made his way to the Abbey to stop Pust from bringing about a season of entropy. Attuned to the Realm of Life in a way that few humans are, he is accompanied by a spite-owl and a vulpine forest spirit he calls Wisper, who functions as a guardian and familiar.

>>96955548
Quite sure end of edition with the campaign that leads up to 5th. So somewhere between Nov 2026 and May 2027. At least for Khul, Valkia might remain missing.

>>96954031
I assume because it is one of the prettier ranges that sell well to new players and as a gift for randos on christmas. Including the same units over and over makes sense if you consider that this is supposed to lure new players in and not be a good opportunity for existing players to skip costs on a new army. Thats also why they keep certain kits out of these so force players going retail price instead of bundle. Kinda related to the topic of reprint value in MTG. It sucks ass thou. But we are at the point where a shitty product with toxic sales patterns earns you more than a good customer experience.

>>96955725
>he is accompanied by a spite-owl and a vulpine forest spirit he calls Wisper
Does the owl not get a name? That's pretty racist.

>>96955716
Oh my fucking god just STOP CUTTING YOURSELF WITH THE MAGIC BACKSCRATCHER holy shit

>>96955713
NTG but the complaint about the mouths and tentacles was that they were being used IN LIEU of actual gore and rot.

>>96955690
I mean the body horror is still there but its not the vocal point. They might be keeping the extra weird stuff for the demons.

>>96955649
>>96955690
Honestly the new guy and guo are the only ones done well imo. The belly mouth thing has never been my favourite.

>>96955752
>the complaint about the mouths and tentacles was that they were being used IN LIEU of actual gore and rot.
No. The complaint was that it was over abundant about it that it became their identity. tentacles, and to some extent, mutations, should be reserved for tzeentch mainly. Deathguard pretty much ruined any potential for thousand sons to get freaky about it. Think of uh...helsmiths official color scheme. Everyone pretty much agrees its not the best way to go about it, but the reason they went with that direction is because it would likely blend in with the other chaos pantheons.

Kinda the same deal here with the mutations, nurgle being less freaky here opens up some avenue for disciples.
>but stomach mutations are so embedded in nurgles followers
1. I think its pretty fucking bad that chaos has been flanderized this far, and aos seems to be showing other avenues for chaos rather than just being its stereotypes, with slaanesh and now nurgle.
2. they can get stomach eyes. idk. I know I just complained about flanderization, and now im saying only tzeentch should have tentacles and shit, which is pretty hypocritical, but we ultimately dont know where tzeentch is going, only that they have some more creative design now that nurgle no longer overlaps with them. I dont think anyone expected maggotkin to adopt the new cult/folk horror vibe they have now. Will likely be the same with tzeentch.
>>96955829
I only really liked the bell one. Bells also helped give nurgle its own personality before the range, between blightkings and the harbinger.

>>96955735
Hootums

>>96955891
>No. The complaint was that it was over abundant about it that it became their identity.
You are trying to tell me what I was bitching about during the Death Guard release. I think I know what I bitched about. It was that the Lord of Contagion was the only guy with guts sloughing out.

>watery tart is at least coeval with the prince of lard
>plausibly much older than he is if she had access to the Everspring
He did not age gracefully.

>>96955965
>white male/indian female couple
They look cute together.

>>96955965
So is he the dude that fucked up the abbey? I'm a bit unclear on the timeline.
Also maybe this is retarded of me but I just noticed his flail has a fly motif, that's pretty cool

>>96956067
Yes, he was rewarded with daemonhood for it.

>>96955965
I hope they drop instructions on how to paint that muddy shitwater base

>>96955965
So does nurgle reforge your sword to be more appropriately sized if you gain a gooner army or was he just lugging that shit around like guts before that happened

>>96956164
Champions recieve gifts, especially Princes.

>>96956164
Birthday present from grampappy nurgal

>>96955965
The funniest thing about them is that both of those characters smell the same.

>>96956212
>Implying a person so dedicated to CLEAN water and CLEANSING filth would smell bad
I get that she looks indian so haha poopy

>>96956247
>she looks indian so haha poopy

>>96956198
Does make me wonder what the faces on his sword are all about.
The fluff mentions he betrayed his superiors at the abbry because they were functionally immortal and he was pissed that meant no climbing ranks for him. Maybe the former priests got their souls trapped in his sword or something

>>96956315
That would be an ironic punishment. Immortal and imprisoned on their betrayer's blade, forced to witness their land and waters corrupted

>>96955995
>couple
He's gay.

>>96955965
wouldn't it make sense for him to be brown too?

Where the fuck are the ogres, fyreslayers, and OBR.
Nurgle is boring. I'm sorry they just tried to bin the old blightkings those models still hold up. Also the horse guys look retarded and redundant when you already have super heavy cav like the blightlords (who look cool).
Tldr this release is already boring give us the next shit

>>96956373
No you don't understand only White Males can betray people in AoS.

>>96956164
You get gooner arms from carrying chunks of rusted metal

>>96955735
Hoot cares?

So Maggotkin are gonna be a horde army now? Seems like almost all units are horde units. Also why is the Spearhead sk fucking shit?

>was complaining about the marketing for dark water and nurgle was null
>they got the cute Scottish woman to introduce the dark water heroes
I mean I feel like they should have Done this when they were revealing the heroes one by one before the reveals, but oh well. I really like this woman’s voice either way. Smitten with it, even.
https://youtube.com/shorts/9R6wSvd4ig4

>>96956530
Too many nurglings in the storage shed

>>96956530
It’s pretty good savings wise, but it doesn’t have any of the new stuff sadly.

I hope nurglings get fun new rules, especially with that one mounted hero whose name I forgot.

>>96956414
>Where the fuck are the ogres, fyreslayers, and OBR.
somewhere next year

>>96956530
really might take the record for most unappealing box ever made.

>>96956564
nurglings with morbidex are actually pretty strong.

>>96956570
>Fyreslayers
Merged with Dispofags because James has no balls to make them an actual faction like they did with Ghosts or FeC.

>>96956642
that reminds me, is there any chance we can get ghost duardin? Or does Nagash kinda fuck with that.

>>96956642
Ghosts and FeC are actually popular. Dwarves always flop so might as well soup them. I think the only thing that could save them is to make them normal dwarves but everything is lava and forget about a whole army of diaper man babies.

>>96956662
>is there any chance we can get ghost duardin
Like... shorter ghosts? Yeah why not...

>>96956642
ghosts will get merged with gravelords in due time, you just wait

>>96956692
>Leech Maximum Cope
Two more weeks, bloodsucker, meanwhile you can salute your ectoplasmic overlords.

I know some blood and satin/gloss is missing but that feels like final touches I should wait with, but does this look somewhat decently like he's been skinned? Unsure if I should make it more red because the gloss or satin will also darken it a bit.

>>96956704
I have mixed opinions on how this was executed. I would have done it like the light of eltharion but with the beard holding it all together.

>>96956692
vampires aren't a real army
>3 units of skeletons
>2 units of generic undead animals
>2 units of zombies (and the cart is so going to get dropped that they didn't even bother showing it on an oval base)
>weaboo vampires nobody asked for

>>96956794
bring back the vyrkos stuff...please...

Bring back warscroll battalions.

>>96956794
surprisingly close to a full makeover for the undead
yes, I count ET releases as aos releases

>>96956530
>>96956628
>reveal show filled with like 5 variations of cool nurgle knights and pestigors
>oh the new spearhead? Some scrawny dudes, a beast of nurgle, and 6 fucking nurglings
Genuinely what were they thinking? At least the flesh hound one had a theme

>>96956895
they were thinking they can double dip. you will buy the discount box full of the crap sitting in a warehouse and you will pay full price for the shinny new kits.

>>96956808
Vyrkos should get a book a part form normal bloodsuckers. With a Godbeast like Hrunspuul the Hound of the Cairns as patron they almost on the same boat as Flesh Eater Courts, another blood line of undead that has different traits from your usual vampires.

Also Granny Volga is better than Manfag and the bitch.

>>96956794
is just me or cc vampires have actually almost the same kits as soulblight main army? considering their share kinda different aesthetics

>>96956925
What a bad suggestion.

>>96956794
The kosargi Nightguard and vargskyr were so cool, still mad.
Also I appreciate that they tried something different with the askurgan trueblades but they look so out of place. Is there any other warcry warband that looks as different from their main faction as they do ?

>>96956905
I just won't buy any of it. The RoR is also shit.

>>96956794
>vargheist kit still shared between sbgl and fec
>mortarch kit still shared between sbgl and obr
>terrorgheist kit still has unused sbgl build options
>hexwraiths kit still has unused sbgl build options
>the ghost chariot cannot be in the ghost faction
>the vampire chariot cannot be in the vampires faction
>the varghulf cannot be in the faction of vampires turned feral
>the giant bats cannot be in the faction with a bat falconer
>the faction with the most spirit hosts cannot field spirit hosts
I fucking hate grand alliance death

>>96956951
>Is there any other warcry warband that looks as different from their main faction as they do ?
arguably the nurgle and tzeentch ones
technically the chameleon skinks and gorgers too, but those were already long established as being weird units relative to their respective faction

I wonder if it's possible to have the askurgan fit way better with a different color scheme, I've never seen them with anything other than the stock photo

>>96956973
One tree? Are all three a duplicated sprue?

>>96956951
Nearly every 1e warband besides the darkoath ones

>>96956933
Cursed citybbasically IS the main look of gravelords now, more eastern european instead of classic gothic like they were in fantasy. I don't mind it honestly, but they should commit to it harder. Revuve kosargi and make them a proper unit, give them some werewolf Infantry, something like the vargskyr, shit like that.
>>96956977
The exact distinction of some of the kits is really stupid. Why the fuck shouldnt nighthaunt be able to use the ghostly parade float

Zombie bros... If they ever add a new army to Death, that they should, is us right? Lady of Flesh time, r-right?

>>96957077
next starter is either frankenzombies, undead pirates or ghoul expansion

I believe they would keep the undead pirates for TOW, so AoS should get the zombies, yes.

>>96957110
I want pirates in AoS to mog TWfags

>>96957037
I can see an argument for jade obelisks, but what’s off about rotmire? They’re directly connected with festus in lore even.

Also I gotta wonder if tzeentch will be taken to a mesoamerican direction…I’ve thought that kairics were Hellenistic but you could put an argument they’re leaning towards that as well.

>>96957127
>but what’s off about rotmire?
the bamboos schtick

>>96957110
imagine the backlash at tow if harkon and vampire coast get a faction in aos before them, chorfs raids 2.0 lmao.

>>96957110
Could be all three for Aos, really. Introduction of undead pirates would be a chance to test the waters of grand alliance death again.

>>96957110
>nautical order faction: kharadron
>nautical death faction: vampirates
>nautical destro faction: grotbags
>nautical aelves faction: idoneth
>nautical chaos faction: ??????????

>>96957136
I don’t think that’s enough to make it an argument.
>>96957156
Helsmiths still have their ships from man o war

>>96957127
Eh I feel like lizards have mesoamerican shit pretty solidly on lock. Then again we have like 3 elf factions alone based on greek shit one way or another so you never know. Maybe they should try north american native, lots of shamanic stuff that's relatively recognizable.
Never seen kairics as mesoamerican though, what makes you say that?

>>96957156
wasnt nurgle pretty nautical at some release? i think the dude spume was in that kind of line right?

>>96957138
honestly I can see quite some ambivalent sentiments regarding vampirates from tow, many think it's a joke faction taken way too far and undeserving of attention
and for that setting to get them instead of normal vampire counts would surely raise a never ending shitstorm that go way beyond the ones about cathay.

>>96957138
>SO NOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLED WHY DID VAMPIRE COASTS FLOP
>PEOPLE LIKED THE IDEA OF VAMPIRE COASTS MORE THAN VAMPIRE COASTS THEMSELVES
>THESE LOOK LIKE WARCRAFT PIRATES
>[posts comparison that shows no similarities between the two]
>WHERE'S DEAD PIRATE GUY WHO THE FUCK IS ALIVE PIRATE GUY
>FEMALE PIRATES? UHHH WOKEHAMMER MUCH?
>THEY WERE HYPING VAMPIRE COASTS BUT NO PIRATE MANIFESTATIONS???
>THIS KIT LOOKS LIKE ASS COMPARED TO THIS OLD KITBASH I FOUND OFF GOOGLE
>YOU ARE WITHOUT A DOUBT THE WORST PIRATE I'VE EVER HEARD OF

>>96957191
I keked.

>>96957191
Hearty chuckle

>>96957169
Nta but I always saw kairics as some kind of middle eastern/Egypt themeing

>>96957191
ok this is a good one

>>96957138
Luthor Harkon, Mortarch of the Abyss.

>>96957264
overrated bitch

>>96957264
Didn't he die during End Times?

>>96957284
Everyone died in the end times, it doesn't mean shit.

>>96957172
It was literally 1 character with no further support for his theam other than name of a subfaction being Drowned Men

>>96957301
@gork is dis true?

>>96957284
You heard of Sigvald anon? That gorgeous model? He got his head used as urinary by a Troll in EoT and you have him here without problem.

>>96957172
spume was pretty fucking weak as a nautical themed character, it wouldn't even have been that difficult if they applied themselves, but it's obvious they came up with the fluff after the model was finalised as a generic nurgle dude

>>96957169
It’s a stretch but it’s just because some kairics have feathers on their shields. I’d have to disregard the fact that they’re naked and not wearing jaguar pelts, and pretend the masks can be connected to some of the Mayan/aztecan pantheons.

>Eh I feel like lizards have mesoamerican shit pretty solidly on lock.
We could’ve made an argument sylvaneth had Celtic/Scottish shit reasonably in their favor, but then Nurgle came out and kind of mirrored them in some senses.
Although I don’t know if tzeentch is really considered seraphons eternal rival like how the other two are. Which would be a factor in this.

>>96957374
>but then Nurgle came out and kind of mirrored them in some senses.
hardly

>>96957156
>>nautical death faction: vampirates
Make it OBR instead. That way I get to be happy and the Total War kiddies don't.

>>96957138
Like >>96957187 said, vcoast are more polarizing than you might think among fantasy players. /v/ermin and redditors would love it, but I can see grogs being pissed that releases are 'wasted' on a meme armylist that's basically only known through the videogame, especially if hypothetically they came out before vcounts proper. That being said if aos got them the seethe would be something else too. I wouldn't mind getting vcoast but if I was a gw lead I'd give them to The of World, they need more 'evil' factions to balance things out with cathay and kislev coming, while skaven and dark elves and whatnot are legacy.
>>96957191
Lel

>>96957354
>spirals everywhere on the new nurgle models
>NOT ONE SINGLE SNAIL OR SNAIL MUTATION

>>96957434
gw really hates mutations on chaos nowadays for some reason

>>96957381
The antlers? The Kelpies? The blightkings at least give you a hint of a pagan theme as well.

>>96957434
festus?

>>96957464
I think he means the darkeater models

>>96957464
Festus is on a leech, not a snail, the point of a snail is the spiral shell.

>>96957486
What if the spiral is a corruption of the gyran symbol (multiple circles)

>>96957464
Nta, the new nurgle dudes have a ton of folk/pagan elements to be sure but I think the other anon meant they don't really mirror sylvaneth (who are surprisingly lacking in 'pagan' stuff for a faction essentially based on fairy myth and other wood spirit folklore)
But yeah nurgle is filled with it, which I personally love as a new direction. The darkwater stuff goes extra hard on it because the whole thing is religion-themed of course, like the poxwalkers have spirals and shit everywhere, both varieties of pestigors have like round effigies of stras (meant to represent a cycle maybe?), festus has a whole wicker fly effigy thing on top of his model. New blight kings are also obviously more priestly, kind of carcoca cultist/prophet thing. Again I personally fucking love it and when combined with the heavy armour of rotswords and sloven knights I'm a lot more interested in nurgle than I ever expected to be.

>No snails
>0 flies
>Gors with goat appearences
>Normal horses
>No todas neither
Not gonna say they dropped the ball because i like the majority of models but... Come on put those minds to work.

>>96955735
Literally hoo

>>96957528
>>Gors with goat appearences
They're cross between a cow and a potato

>>96957560
Mooshed potatos

>Talk with stranger regarding Helsmiths
>He mentions he had a Warcry squad
>Confused ask what is he talking about
>Helmsmiths of Hashut blood of the bull
>Already sent to legends

Bro what the fuck they barely released and one of their units already got sent to legends?? Which other army had this shitty luck?

>>96957528
For being in a swamp/sewer they dropped the ball on the nurgle theme

>>96957464
>The antlers? The Kelpies?
nurgle has had antlers for a long time, it's not enough to call them celtic
the only truly new design element is the straw dolls and crowns, which has got to do with generic rurality way more than any more specific culture or religion

>>96957528
>>96957560
Darkwater gors are more goat, the multipart ones are definitely more cowlike.
>>96957524
I really hope they'll do some articles on the design process behind nurgle and/or darkwater like they did for chorfs for example, really interested in the design decisions behind a lot of the symbolism.

>>96957579
You mean the fucking underworlds team that's like 4 guys?

>>96957579
underworlds are all kinda legends for some weird reason.

>>96957156
Zharr Vyxa, you would get the kraken, underwater bases, and other deamonic machines shaped like fish.

>>96957596
>>96957617
I'm assuming he's confusing the horns of hashut with the blood of the bull

>>96957585
They are Celtic in the Arthurian sense because they play upon the Order of the Fly chivalric fluff. The Arthurian canon reinvents pagan stories

>>96957528
I understand the horses because the nurgle lord on steed was a fucking sweet model and so it makes sense go give him some pals, but yeah, they had good occasions to make the multipart pestigors more peculiar since they could have the darkwaters ones as being more classical, as well as injecting plenty of slimy mutations into the lowly jungi ito fuckers, or taking the opportunity of separating armored blightkings and exposed-belly blightkings by making the latter way more mutated
and they missed all of the occasions

>>96957635
>they play upon the Order of the Fly chivalric fluff
The release has nothing to do with the order of the fly.

>>96957646
Yes, they're just more !Brets corrupted by Nurgle? Templars guarding an abbey in Ghyran

>>96957635
Ehh that’s a hard reach
>>96957646
The 10 man dudes do have some fly symbols on them…but that’s it, yeah.we are still missing ze lady…

>>96957630
>>96957596
Ye i got confused anons

>>96957617
All of them? So they just pop up and already got branded into legends? Whats up with that? Or different rules and shit?

>>96957655
No, they're just more nurgle dudes. The larger release has nothing to do with the abbey.

>>96957663
The Green Knight is the least of it, anon
>>96957672
And Cursed City has nothing to do with SBGL but all the skeletons are Ulfenwatch

>>96957710
The nurgle warriors don't even look particularly different from the previous looks for nurgle warriors, you cannot in good conscience think there's been a shift.

>>96956973
The most blatant "dump the shit nobody buys" box I've ever seen.

>>96957646
>>96957732
Nta and eh maybe not explicitly but the darkwater stuff is also a Ghyranite holy order of chivalric knights corrupted from within by a follower of nurgle, and the main aos releasr largely follows the same aesthetic. Compared to old blight kings they're more heavily armoured, and that armour seems to be a bit more specifically geared towards that 15th century, chivalry, jousting competitions style. I'm no armour autist but they seem to wear tilting shields and stuff, and the "curtain" skirt/thigh guard or whatever it's called also seems to fit that vibe.

>>96957797
you do sadly need like 2 or 3 of the trees I think, but thats conditional. If the heros was just the generic plauge bearer hero it would be neat, but I fucking hate the tallyman.

>>96952099
You that's a neat idea that i haven't seen (unless they already did) saw skaven with weapons stucked in their tails

Being paranoid every other fucker might backstab them should at least use stuff

I do remember old stormvermin models having simple stuff like emblems

Also, sauce/name of artist?

>>96952269
Man, chaos lost such a bunch of cool minis, and if you managed to find them the price isn't quite inviting

>>96956973
brutally mogged

>>96958057
I managed to get Catacombs for 185 and Scions are so fucking cool dude.

>>96958057
For me the fact they killed so many cool Khorne sculpts is still painful.

>>96956973
>>96956530
Is the old spearhead just gone now?

>>96958344
Still available on eBay. You can probably get it when that spearhead magazine comes over as well. I kinda only wanna get the Pusgoyles for cheap individually.

>>96957623
Most likely yes, but it will all be just words and text since it's very unlikely we'll get any images of it, let alone a thumbnail, unless they release more sea-related factions besides the hairless sea elves.

>>96958344
It's still available here and there but it will be replaced, yes. Though the old one has the old Blightkings and the Tallyman so it kinda cucks you if you are starting the army and want those trees from Regiments of Renown as it also had the tallyman. All of it is cucked. Even the old battleforce is cucked and they are putting the warcry shitty band in all boxes now.

SBGL were allowed to get new stuff in new discount boxes somehow but Nurgle gets the worst boxes ever with shit you don't want and it doubles it up. Spiteful fucks.

Living city…one day…

>>96958555
>>96958555
>>96958555

>>96951175 (OP)
Soon