Thread 96958555

Pirates of the Mortal Realms Edition

>Previously in the Mortal Realms:
>>96951175

>Official AoS website:
https://www.ageofsigmar.com

>Downloads, Rules Errata and FAQs:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/

>Tools
https://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/

>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator:
https://aosg.github.io/

https://sigdex.io/

>Thread question:
Would you like to see Vampire Coasts in AoS?

>>96958555 (OP)
no, it's a meme faction that only appeals to tww secondaries

>TQ
>Pirates
Yes
>vampires
No, well not at the forefront.
Pirates are the most diverse groups to be, and it should ring true for a fantasy faction too. Have it be a soup of vampires, ghouls, ghosts, and bone reapers too.

What are you planning to ask Santa for Christmas for hobbying? One of the battleforce boxes, something smaller, something different, basic supplies? I asked for Cursed City before it went OOP and probably one of the new warband bundles. Not sure if there's anything else I could really need besides an airbrush, but I really don't have the space to make it work cleanly without potentially getting splatter or overspray everywhere.

>>96958555 (OP)
>TQ
A side game that focuses on maritime warfare might be fun. As for vampire pirates in particular, I have no interest in them.

>>96958615
Just Tamiya glue and some beans

>>96958615
I asked my Secret Santa on /wip/ for warcry/underworlds stuff so hoping they bought me an OOP Warcry box and 2 of those Underworlds big boxes that cost 1 jabillion dollars

No. I want Wraithfleet.

>>96958555 (OP)
Yes I want vampire pirates. I'd grab them day 1. Only if it's AoS though.

>>96958615
I'd ask Santa if I could hug my mom again one last time.

>>96958695
My dad's been dead for almost 3 years and I'd rather ask santa to rid me of the occasional dreams where he tries to gaslight me into thinking he totally didn't die and I have to tell him to fuck off back to heaven.

>>96958555 (OP)
FUCK Vampirates.
It’s Zombie time. It’s Crelis time!!!
https://ageofsigmar.lexicanum.com/wiki/Crelis_Arul

>>96958555 (OP)
So is AoS just the ape from fantasy setting now? They’ve stopped doing their own thing and want to be a cheap copy of WHFB? Why?

>>96958809
Its more of
>x was established very early in the setting to be wrought up later
and x just happened to be some ideas that fantasy never got to properly explore, or taking some glup shittos and making them into proper characters. In some cases turning them into world building pieces. Which is fine, fantasy battle is awesome enough to lend some concepts that it never fully explored that aos and tow can share, right?

>>96958555 (OP)
>TQ
Kind of but not really. As a whole new faction they would overlap way to much with IDK. I'd rather they just make a unit of pirate themed rogue Namarti and call it a day. I don't really care for the vampire aspect of Vampire coast.

>>96958809
AoS is the other main game and it gets what it wants. Side games need not comment.

what are some quintessential books to read to explore the realm of ghyran?

>>96958673
What’s he doing to that poor alien child :(

>>96958615
My LGS is doing secret santa and I see the items I ask for have disappear from the shelf.

Stuff that has been there for a year now, no less. I'm getting some Ogors and I'm fucking ecstatic.

>>96959469
>I see the items I ask for have disappear

>>96959502
I fucked that up, yes. I even forgot to reply to the anon.

I am a bit retarded today.

>>96958555 (OP)
No, give us Dreadfleet pirates

How would you integrate warcry with spearhead?
>inb4 just kill one off
no we're not taking the lazy route with this one.
Only thing I can think of is introducing a "campaign" system where you play with the war-cry original models and you can buff your main spearhead based on the results of that campaign.

but that sounds dogshit and can just end up dragging both systems down.

>>96959565
Squat warcry and make it like Kill Team. Release REAL units which are updates/refreshes to kits everyone wants and make the new game even faster with a proper storyline integrated to the main storyline of the edition.

>>96959535
Daek Elf Corsairs.

>>96959597
>Squat warcry and make it like Kill Team
fuck you.

>>96959597
>squat the best game GW has put out in years and turn it into tourneyfag slop
Frogposters really are subhuman scum.

>>96959597
>Release REAL units which are updates/refreshes to kits everyone wants

Warcry has done this more than killteam did, unless you count upgrade sprues added to old kits

>>96959597
>Squat warcry and make it like Kill Team.
Absolutely the fuck not
>Release REAL units which are updates/refreshes to kits everyone wants
Yes, and stop discontinuing them after a couple years and then sending them to Legends hell a couple years after that.

>>96959647
This is probably the case for everything that’s around now, the problem with slaves is that they had a million units with identical army roles. It sucks to lose sculpts that sick, though, I find the new darkoath a massive downgrade in lore and style

>>96959565
Add warcry rules to spearhead boxsets

>>96959469
happy for you anon, interesting timing for it. I would expect the ogre refresh to come after fyreslayers if the leaks are true, so you'll get at least 6 months out of them.

>>96959704
My main problem with the game stems from GW's whole move towards "unit in a box". There's no customization, no /yourdudes/, no room to make a cool generic character with a fun loadout. You get your hero character with a premade battlescroll and that's basically what you have to work with. No special items you can give them or anything interesting. I kinda forgot where I was going with this, but something about cool units losing rules and getting discontinued instead of having some kind of generic use for them.

>>96959848
I... what? What the fuck are you trying to say dude

>>96959597
Fuck you.

>>96959848
Kill Team also lacks this.
What we need is 2 skirmish games like 40k.
Game one, more simple, get into the world, much like current Warcry. Kill Team too to an extent even though it's worse than Warcry.
Game two, super crunchy, hyper narrative focused like Necromunda. Which is something AoS sorely needs.

>>96960008
What I wouldn't do to be able to kit out some /dudes/ with random fuck-ass trinkets and enhancements from across the realms that don't have to be modelled or even enhancements/upgrades with fluff from within the faction. That would just help flesh out the setting more in general.

>>96960008
...Mordheim
You want Mordheim

>>96960082
Shadespire was kind of set up to be exactly that, but it was for underworlds…it was kind of fine at the time, but now it’s kind of losing its charm. Here’s hoping they revisit it and make it a more central location with a more deeper game system.

I really want to start trying to build up an AoS community around here next year by doing Spearhead nights at a local shop. I got two Spearheads, have one built already.

But I don't know how to play and I'm shy :(

>>96958615
Alarielly might be nice. Or the SoB Spearhead

>>96960232
Learn to play it! It's very simple, honestly. You can be taught in the span of an hour, but you'll need to learn the odd interactions that rarely come up if you want to teach.

I've been doing that exact thing at my LGS. I've had a small group of about 6 people that's slowly getting ready for Matched Play and eventually PtG.

Do you have any particular questions about it? I could offer some input. I'm also backed by my LGS, though, so I'm using their materials aside from my own Spearhead army.

>>96960250
oh no, I just need to sit down and figure it out, watch a few batreps.

Meeting new people is the really scary thing. I haven't done that in ages. And I need to reach out to the potential venue to make sure it's OK, and then advertise it somehow. What a mess!

>>96960276
Just bee yourself, anon. As long as you're not a GUO irl, you'll be fine. Everyone just needs a little nudge to get out of their shell and have a good time.

>>96960232
>tfw kroxigor daddy to princess carry you and cuddle
Why live bros

>>96960232
>>But I don't know how to play and I'm shy :(

I mean spearhead is pretty piss easy, just did my first game yesterday and it's basically just a small scale skirmish with set armys and objectives and abilities are kinda like underworlds with the 3 card system. Coming from having been dragged into this game kicking and screaming at 2k it feels loads easier.

>>96958955
My only complaint of all the new stuff shown is that these guys only appear to have 3 designs/poses for the horses, and given how unique each one is, they're gonna get very obviously repeaty even with just a second box

>>96960232
Offer to play loser bottoms on your local discords and then lose on purpose. Repeat a few times and you'll have a new aos friend

How much do you guys think the dark water box will cost? I literally want every new Nurgle unit and a handful of the new heroes so I think it’s worth it to buy. I’m scared to think how much I’d spend on the entirety or part of the non-dark water new Nurgle units.

Also, how do you replicate the rust effect they did on these guys?
I have Vallejo rust pigments but they always rub off or blow away and they’re hard to manipulate. Idk how to get them to stick or harden in place.

>>96960573
180-200

>>96960573
Probably like 200 bucks or so, which is about what cursed city costed on the rerelease. They can't go too crazy with the prices since they're also trying to sell to board game people. So I'm betting 200.

>>96960065
You can a little with Warcry narrative. But it's pretty basic.

>>96960082
Except with bette rules

>playgroup wants me to get back into 40k
>the only ones left that play 40k exclusively play codex compliant marines
i'll uhhh.... i think i'll pass, thanks

>>96960619
cursed city was like 250 before it was delisted on gws site. this one doesnt have terrain, and the board is on one book...so I hope they removed that in hopes of making it as low cost as possible. I really hope its nowhere near skaventides price.

>>96960746
>this one doesnt have terrain
cursed city doesn't have terrain! Though the little nurgle objective tokens are in fact smaller than the undead ones.

Shit I could totally take one of those undead cats and slap it with festus....

>>96960746
That's cute diorama

>>96960726
I don't play 40keks, what's the problem with codex compliant marines?

>>96960746
Can love blume on the battlefield?

>>96960882
>blume
Explain yourself

>>96960726
I feel ya, I've been making steps to try and rekindle some interest on AoS at my lgs but 40k is 40k everyone knows how to play it and has already spent hundreds if not thousands on it.
>>96960792
NTA but it's boring. It's not even deviant chapters with different rules and list limitations. Every game will feel similar and blur together into a slurry of spacemen.

>>96960912
>I feel ya, I've been making steps to try and rekindle some interest on AoS at my lgs but 40k is 40k everyone knows how to play it and has already spent hundreds if not thousands on it.

It's rough, I'm enjoying some of the more casual games I've played recently against people more my tier. My biggest problem is every fucking player in the local community is a god damn tourney player. They're still very chill but holy fuck I'd like to fight some shit more my level instead of having some hyper sharpened "I've been playing this for 6 years." list. I enjoy getting to play, roll some dice, throw my dudes around but if I feel completely fucking outclassed or am fighting a murderball it can be a bit discouraging.

>>96960899
What's the Tzeentch colour?

Something that didn't get enough credit is the storytelling aspect of nu-Blightking hornes. They're show a clear progression/hierarchy like in actual deer

>>96960971
Not enough mutation, maggots, flies or signs of disease on the PUTRID blightkings. Hell they don't even have nurgles mark forming on their skin to show the Grandfathers blessing. They're too clean. >>96960971

the new boole rumors have me confused as hell

>>96961115
Yeah, I do not like them at all.

They are just fat fucks now with some shitty togas.

>>96959848
If you want cool customized "your dudes", just play Path to glory.

>>96961169
Tree elf making trees from the old tree, nurgle seething

>>96961189
>>96961115
buy the old ones then. they hold up, and they're probably cheaper too

>>96960971
I like their weapon design but some of the pose and the new priest outfit are retarded. Who hold an axe like this?

>>96961115
drill bit the stomach, and greenstuff away with gore.

>>96961169
remove the flowery shit and the core of the posts is that there's a sylvaneth model coming called the grove guardian or something like that, with a headgear like the everqueen's, an amphora in one hand and a weapon in the other, with roots emerging from her base, accompanying a story about how sylvaneth are getting uppity and attacking everyone, confirming once again that elves shouldn't be considered part of order.
probably sylvaneth's pity hero for this edition.

>>96961240
>>96961169

Pity hero for Sylvaneth. No Kurnothi yet.

guess it really is the dwarf edition.

>>96961277
good. dwarfs have gotten basically zero love for 10 years straight. it was about time

>>96960971
>>96961115
yeah, they look like a different kind of unit altogether, but I think they could be made to look properly nurglish if you emphasize the sickness of their exposed skin
the studio's brown tone is relatively too natural for it to pop

ideally it wouldn't be the same green as the other armours, but chromatically it fits

>>96960971
>>96961289
I love it when units act like Pokemon

>>96961298
Same.

>>96961267
I do not care for either Sylvaneth or Kurnothi but Sylvaneth already have a big range, why do they need Kurnothi?

Scrap Kurnothi.

>>96961311
>Sylvaneth already have a big range
Hardly
>why do they need Kurnothi?
Unit diversity

>Scrap Kurnothi.
And turn it into something bigger, yes.

>>96961311
>Sylvaneth already have a big range
GW doesn't consider a range truly big and healthy until it has at least 10 big kits that aren't special characters, and a similar number of small heroes kits

If your army can’t have 3 or 4 distinct play styles, you aren’t a real army.

>>96958539
Eh for all intents and purposes darkwater is your nurgle battleforce

>>96959597
The worst opinion I've ever seen ITT, have you actually ever played Kill Team or have you only watched battlereports? It's an unironically awful game, last edition was ok, the new edition is probably the worst game GW has put out in recent memory only carried by the fact that it's 40k and its "cheap".

>>96960573
You have to mix them with a small amount of water and brush them on, make sure they don't pool weirdly. It's incredibly brainless, just stop applying them dry lmao. You can manipulate them with a wet brush but it will lessen the effect so try to get it right on the first go, they wont rub off after you varnish.

>>96961379
Your range doesn't have as much range as this range.

>>96961446
oof

>>96961446
>>96961462
Should've just kept a "realm cultist" warscroll that you can take a bunch of upgrades for to represent all these little fuckers in the battletome
Realm cultists with poison (use splintered fang models)
Realm cultist with extra ward save (use iron golems)
Etc

>>96961446
Imagine how much better the models lines would be if gw didn't waste dozens of kits on half naked faggots

>>96961240
I know they write like they’re ESL but you kind of have to lack reading comprehension yourself not to realize the twist of that overly drawn out story is that the person talking is a nurglite, not part of order, which is why they’re talking up the brutality and insanity of alarielle

>>96961620
>she has long forsaken her former allies
>...
>none may escape her vengeance, not even her former allies
nurglites or not, it's pretty explicit

>>96961620
>Order of Azyr
>Former Allies
>Pastoral Idyllic life
They are likely praising Nurgle because they've been driven to it, but it's a recent shift hence the coughing of the old man.

Greywater genocide soon
Fuck around and find out Humans

>>96961746
greywater is so popular both thematically and in terms of colour scheme that they'll force a way for it to survive

I'm pushing my schizophrenia to manifest it becoming a nomadic free city, centering on cogforts

>>96961759
greywater collides with the potatocore aesthetic so it'll definitely go imo

>>96961759
Stay on your ONE ROAD soft-skin.

>>96961765
>>96961777
GREYWATER NON DELENDA EST!

>>96961320
Do people actually want to see Kurnothi in AoS proper?

>>96961358
Funny but now that I take a look at this picture, only now I realize that Helsmiths do not actually have a big range. All other Chaos factions are quite larger.

>>96961234
>Who hold an axe like this?
Someone who uses it as a ram to force open a door? Or someone using the butt end of the weapon to knock someone out/incapacitate by hitting solar plexus.

>>96961809
>Do people actually want to see Kurnothi in AoS proper?
Some people do. For the most part they do not play Sylvaneth.

>>96961812
NTA but how did you come to that conclusion, anon?

>>96961809
For a start of new army, HoH are fine. But yeah, their range is actually small compared to older Chaos factions.

>>96961809
helsmiths were smart because most of their kits are dual kits, including one hero kit, as well as making almost all the units cover very different size categories
but still, they could have managed their resources better in places
hopefully they get a second wave soon enough

>>96961833
NTA but you are quite naive if you think Helsmiths of Hashut are getting a second wave soon. I think a pity hero next edition. Maybe second wave in 6th edition.

>>96961809
>Do people actually want to see Kurnothi in AoS proper?
Yes, I've been hype for Kurnothi since Beastgrave came out like 6 years ago.

>>96961836
You're probably right, but still, a pity hero, spells, scenery, and perhaps one special character during some campaign may be more than enough to make them feel a much bigger range already

>>96961849
No offense to you Kurnothi fans but I am truly curious, what to you is the appeal of the Kurnothi? What attracts you to Kurnothi as faction?

>>96961853
As HoH player, they do need a proper second wave. More Daemon fuelled engines/automata. Elite infantry. Lammasu.

And people have correctly called for exploration of the Hashutite religion and the Scorched sect. By far the best lore element of HoH lore.

>>96961870
Kurnothi for me is basically the best part of old Wood Elves (Orion, the Wild Hunt, Wardancers, etc) taken to the next level, blurring the line between Elves and Fey Creatures, and I fucking love Fey shit. Give me Centaurs and Satyrs, Wild Elves and Fairies all day.

Sylvaneth are OK, I don't dislike them, but all trees is boring and I'm not obsessed with insects like some posters here. Kurnothi are much more what I want from a proper Wood Elf succession army.

>>96961882
>As HoH player, they do need a proper second wave.
See you in 10 years.

>>96961910
I see the appeal. What do you wish to see in Kurnothi range?

>>96961836
I think they'll probably get the Lammasu before too long, but yeah a full on 2nd wave could be a while.

Is this worth it? I'll be getting the new Battleforce as well as the old Spearhead with the Vampire and Knights. Obviously I'm getting a lot/too much but it's not like I can wait and grab them in a month. It's all gonna be gone by then and I do want those units.

Those bats are an unpleasant filler which eats some of the value. They are nice bats but come on.

>>96961914
I hope they get a large second wave in next or 6th edition.

>>96961870
Isn't it just Narnia?

>>96961921
Next ain't happening. 6th who knows.

>>96961234
>priest outfit
I think the manner in which they've wrapped cloth around themselves looks patrician rather than priestly.

>>96961910
My brother in Kurnoth!

Precisely. I hope we do get Kurnothi eventually. Either as their own faction or part of Sylvaneth. I would prefer them as their own faction but okay.

Praise the God of Hunt and Beasts!

>>96961234
>>96961935
It's definietly supposed to be a noble thing. Even the dark red colour is royal in symbolism.
They tone back on the Blight- and go harder on the -King

>>96961910
>what I want from a proper succession army.
This kind of thinking is why we got Gitmob while Spiderfang are left to rot.

>>96961971
that's the correct line of thinking, spiderfags deserve to rot

>>96961910
>>96961918

As a fellow Kurnothi fan, I am seconding the resquest. Fellow Kurnothianon, what do you desire to see in a Kurnothi faction?

>>96961870
I don't particularly care about kurnothi, but whenever there's these sorts of dualities and parallels, the setting always feels wrong and incomplete as long as they aren't properly explored, even if nobody actually cares about them once they're released, they contribute to the ecosystem, lets put it that way.

I wish AoS releases were faster. We are getting good shit but but it feels like everything is 40k and then suddenly a huge AoS release. They need to spread it better and also give us a new narrative.

Ours I think

>>96962125
orks for 11th edition of 40k

we're not getting rumor engines as punishment for the leaks

>>96962114
We got a new army this fall, another huge range expansion coming up, we had 4 other sizable range expansions and refreshes over the summer and spring, on top of old world stuff that can be used cross game fairly easily

We've been eating alright

>>96962136
More vampires? Dam GW really loves their bloodsuckers.

>>96962125
This is probably Ogors.

>>96962125
I would guess something O&G, actually. Gitmob don't have topknots anymore so

>>96961920
No one responded so I got it...

>>96962125
Another not-Abadon for Chaos

>>96960573
these types of acrylic rust effects can be achieved simply with paints of the appropriate colors, thinned down more than usual

>>96962360
its all a bunch of staples, 15 BKs with the new box is too many for most list, bats and sogs really got hurt by the beast change.

>>96962410
I figured I'd run Vhordrai with 10 Knights and a Vampire on Nightmare Steed (or a Vengorian Lord) with 10 Knights and fill the rest with chaff and objective holders.

>>96961729
It’s framed as an order of azyr report on an eavesdropped conversation between nurglites, who are bemoaning alarielle/sylvaneth fucking them up. They talk about former allies in a poorly formatted way unrelated to that stuff about themselves, but I also think it’s a nothingburger because sylvaneth haven’t been randomly attacking people and I doubt they’re going to decide they were as part of what their up to in 4e. Closest you’ll get is more of their fey shit they always do, or some dreadwood antics

>>96962427
Sylvaneth are always randomly attacking people and Kurnothi are a resurgent violent faction. It's not unusual to imagine hostilities

>>96962125
Could be a bunch of stuff honestly. Gitmob for us (unlikely imo), tow orcs, 40k orks, chaos in either system. I'm going to guess this is for 40k though, maybe that huron dude.

>new nurgle has rural horror elements
>no old times beekeeper headgears
FUCK

>>96958955
Can't wait for these to inexplicably be faster, tankier, and more deadly than the dudes on giant flying maggots

>>96959597
I'm fine with the bullshit 'ummm no new units unless a codex unless it's technically a WARCRY unit' merry go round they put themselves through as long as every army gets a slice.
I dont like only getting a single set of models for an edition, and half the time it's just a pity hero, especially when SOME factions (fucking LRL) get showered with attention

>>96962661
What army do you play that you complain so much?

>>96961320
Sylvaneth have
> Five unique foot infantry choices (dryads, spite recs, tree recs, the twist dudes, the flying archers)
> A big guy infantry choice that has two fights varieties and a shooting variety (Kurnoth)
> Two super heavy flying cav
> Three varieties of tree man (Regular, Durthu, Ancient)
> Generic foot caster
> Bigger foot caster (tree song)
> Generic small fight buff hero (arch revenant)
> Four big unique monster heroes
Compared to MANY that is a ton of units and variety.

>>96961620
I'm not pandering to that faggots ego.
Pics or fuck off

>>96961920
> Some value
All the value the bats are insanely overpriced. But hey you got a one click no savings bundle ... Yayy...

>>96962646
with 3 cavalry units in the roster they inevitably have to fulfil different niches:
demons on rot flies should clearly be the cheapest and so can cover the fast ligh cavalry role
blightkings on rot flies can't possibly be both better and faster than the sloven knights, but they are unlikely to be slower and are evidently more elite

if normal blightkings are being recontextualised as support aura units, where the rotswords do the actual hammering and anviling, then similarly the blightkings on rot flies would logically become buffers and debuffers instead of mainline shock cavalry

>>96961870
I like the Hunt vibes/aesthetic and centaurs

>>96962709
No, the discount I got essentially gives me the bats free and either the skellies or wolves free as well and I would buy Lauka and the 5 Knights 100% right now anyway. I also definitely wanted the wolves (which are also overpriced) so it's not bad. It's not great, not terrible.

>>96962725
As long as ONE other unit was free through a store discount it's an ok deal then. The bats are just a rip off

>>96962782
I was looking into the Army Set as well but that one basically has no discount. Well I guess the Battletome is free...

I see a lot of "scams" in the AoS range in terms of bundles and pricing. Like those new Maggotkin bundles and even the old one has that warcry team or just plain plaguebearers (new ones also have the warcry team and plaguebearers and the same hero)

dryads are surely get refreshed if they're in the battleforce lmao

>>96962613
Make your own? proxy them as wretches

>>96962814
I mean realistically I just buy everything second hand, army boxes included. Ebay is your friend for this type of thing. But yeah GW has been gradually decreasing the value in value boxes all around which sucks.

Convince me to start collecting and playing Age of Sigmar.

>>96962843
Nah, this time it's definitely going to be a pity hero.

>>96963075
no, fuck off

>>96962814
whats your problem with the warcry dudes, they're just a normal unit now with decent rules, for the moment.

>>96963075
How the fuck am I supposed to convince you, buy the cool models and paint them. It's cheaper than 40k and you get better models, the rules are a bit shite right now but if you wanna justify buying more models you can also play the game.

>>96962613
Aren't the cyclops masks basically that?

>>96963075
the models are fantastic

>>96963075
Don't; 4th sucks cock
>>96961446
Can someone explain from a logistical/business standpoint why they didn't bring back Horns of Hashut for Helsmiths? Anything that I can think of is refuted by gesturing at the still-playable warcry units for the other chaos god factions.

>>96963248
>Don't; 4th sucks cock

I'm gonna be real, I hopped in only by chance but before I was just here for the models.

>>96961069
MINDSTEALER BIBLIARCH FOR DISCIPLES OF TZEENTCH SOON I FEEL IT IN MY BONES

>>96963248
they aren't part of their faction.

>>96959597
>Release REAL units which are updates/refreshes to kits everyone wants
isnt that what warcry was?

>>96963235
nice base
tsons-anon?

>>96963269
Not for everyone and it's still a mess.

>>96963266
That's not an answer; that's just re-wording the problem.

>>96963276
It is
>its a mess
It really isn’t

>>96963248
Who fucking knows why gw did what they did. Maybe they thought if people could use their existing HoH that means people are buying one helsmith kit less to get to a full army. I don't think the aesthetic argument holds much water because every god specific warcry warband is quite different from the main aesthetic (jade obelisk, rotmire creed, claws of karanak, ...)

>>96958955
>AoS is the other main game
It's GW's equivalent a pizza hut refurbished into a yoga studio and always will be. It's not the real fantasy setting and everyone knows it.

>>96963394
Yeah the real fantasy setting will always be blood bowl

>>96963394
>It's GW's equivalent a pizza hut refurbished into a yoga studio and always will be.
So... a yoga studio that annoying retards won't shut the fuck up about and keep trying to order pizzas from? I suppose that's apt.

>>96959597
Based, warcry was crap.

>>96963262
the sphiranx should be available to both tzeentch and slaanesh
while the fomoroid should be available to both nurgle and khorne
the slaughterbrute is for both khorne and slaanesh
while the vortex beast is for tzeentch and nurgle
the raptoryx are shared by tzeentch and khorne
while the furies get shared by nurgle and slaanesh

>>96963394
>wfb is a fast food for poor brown people
>AoS is rich white person pleasure
Accurate

>>96960232
It's not really worth doing at the moment, the game is dead. We just quietly hold the line until the next edition and hope that it improves.

>>96963411
I love reminding people of back in Fantasy when the MVB and SB weren't actually mark-locked

>>96963439
go back

>>96963281
what problem, they as much hoh as plaguemonks are maggotkin.

>>96963270
cheers, yeah that's me

well it was a nice thread while it lasted. i'll see yall when the trolls go back to bed

>>96963497
Plague monks are not stated to work for Maggotkin as a vanguard

>>96963075
There's no point, it has nothing going for it at the moment. Just a waste of money and some of the lamest people you'll ever meet in a LGS.

>>96963512
Can you point to the trolls for me?

>>96963411
I hate that I can't play single mindstealer or mutalith vortex beast in Tzeentch. They're fantastic models, please james, just give me the rules that allow me to use these things.

Anyone have any ideas for a pet mini that can be used for a mighty lord of khorne kitbash? Plastic ideally.

>>96963763
Ghoul as a pet savadge canibal?

>>96963075
warcry into spearhead, or spearhead into warcry. Both really fun games and will be fun painting projects. a spearhead game will probably take you upwards around an hour, warcry its kinda all around the place, but unless you're doing the really involved stuff it can take you less time than a spearhead game.
Where spearhead is just a pre-constructed team for a gamey game, warcry has actual list building where you can take virtually everything (besides some monsters, but stuff like slaan have rules) so you can take everything from a spearhead and turn it into a warcry band and lengthen your fun.

Most of the rules and the list building app is here if you want to see em for warcry https://warcrier.net/ , the spearhead rules should all be free on the latest AOS app too, I think.

I havent had much time to actually play the full game proper, I played some soulblight at the start of the edition and it was fine. too much emphasis on it being gamey for its own good though. Not objectively terrible though, but I havent kept up with the new updates, might jump back in with the new path to glory if it actually adds something more than what ravaged coast did.

>>96963699
>can't play a mindstealer or mutalith vortex beast in tzeentch
Wut? Are they std only or something? That doesn't seem right.

>>96963910
Yeah. You can technically bring a Mindstealer via the Hargax's Pit-Beasts RoR, but then you need a Myrmidon and Fomoroid too.

>>96963891
it's a shame because in 40k, Kill Team into Combat Patrol or vice versa is a GREAT fucking idea, but if they kill Warcry for realsies you can't DO THAT.

So I know that in AoS everyone's a little racist but are AoS dwarves as anti-elf as WHF dwarves or are they mostly chill with them? And do they have a trigger finger for grudges?

why remove the old blight kings? why not call the new ones blight praetorians or something like that

>>96964073
GW can't supply enough of their existing range to meet demand as it is, they can't bloat the stock options

>>96964073
I’ve been thinking about it. Aside from getting some people to rebuy units, or prevent the “make extra Blightkings” hack, maybe they wanted to better define the path of nurgle mortals. Pusgoyles look like old Blightkings on flies so that represents the pinnacle of mortal corruption/mutation. That’s why the new BK’s are more tame in design. I do agree, though. Old BK’s could’ve become Pusgoyle Praetors which would put them just under being blessed with a mount.

>>96964073
>>96964142
They'll be moved to TOW since they are originally from WFB.

>>96964046
>everyone's a little racist
AoS is mostly refugees living alongside one another. There's no racism.
Read Grombrindal to see how Duardin think of Aelves. There's no animosity.

>>96964146
It’s more likely they’ll make their own version of nurgle warriors if they ever introduce marked warriors again. Blightkings barely function in a rank and flank game, and they want to have ranges not coalesce with each other between the systems. It’s why deathguard is grim derp and maggotkin is Elden ring.

>>96964163
You sound like you were enlightened by lumineth

>>96964184
Maybe but at the rate they are getting models we'll all have grandkids. For now they'll probably move Blightkings there.

>See gitz be at the finals

Couldn't see the match how was their army list? Cause i can't think of anything beside magic and pure monster brawn

>>96964205
Idk. Until the warshrine is reintroduced I’ll continue holding my doubts. Same with savage orcs. You don’t want to have something that can blend in between the range systems if you’re being really fucking through about this.

It’d also be shitty to beastmen in tow if they just had warriors aping them in relevance again.

>>96964046
They hardly ever meet eachother

>>96964046
>>96964163
Eh aos has some interspecies racism but it's more of a tribe-to-tribe basis unlike dwarfs just hating elves wholesale like in wfg. On the whole city dwarfs will have no problems working with city elves or vice versa, but a specific magmahold that got raided by idoneth will still hate elves, shit like that.
>>96964246
Pretty sure the match is on warhammer's youtube, lemme check it out

>>96964265
Oh shit I didn't know they squatted the shrine. That sucks.

>>96964344
Doesn't everyone hate Idoneth?

>>96964073
I believe they think keeping both products up will lead to the old blightkings being sold instead of the new product.

>>96964363
They’ve really only really worked with morathi so it shows you something

>>96964246
Here's gitz, surprisingly a bit of gitmob, also like 40 stabbas but the list is basically just 50 boingrot lmao

>>96964246
>>96964400
And here's slaanesh, lotta twinsouls, glutos, big brick of slaangors and some other stuff

>>96964400
Did anyone play KB or CoS? How did they do?

>>96964400
>>96964429
I assume the results are out? What's the top 5?

>>96964400
>five units of reinforced cavalry
>only half the list
god i hate the way GW balances this game

>>96964363
They would have to know about them first

>>96964363
Does anyone know idoneth exist?

>>96964197
Cry more

>>96964476
>>96964482
Is that why their abbreviation is IDK?
"We got raided"
"By who?”
"Uhhhhh idk"

>>96964476
>>96964482
They exist. They raided my village and made the old people disappear in 2020.

>>96964501
Fish elves? Under the sea? Preposterous!

>>96964466
>>96964469
https://www.bestcoastpairings.com/event/RuF7lUi7LDvk?active_tab=placings
This website seems to have the placings and lists but it looks like you need to sign up for that shit which I'm not doing. There's a couple of games on their youtube under live broadcasts. Seeing a good bit of gitz in the top 30 though, no CoS (I thought they were really good?), one KB at like place 26 or something.

>>96964578
You need a FUCKING SUBSCRIPTION

>>96964625
Did you read his post bro?

>winning 40k list would take around 1600 burgerbucks to put together at full gw price
Wew, I wonder how much those slaanesh and gitz lists cost

>>96964046
there was no equivalent of the war of beards/vengeance that soured their relations on a racial level, but elves are generally fickle, untrustworthy and dickish, and arguably betrayed the alliance of order before any other god, so dwarfs would have plenty of reasons to discriminate against them, unless local relations were different and positive for whatever reason
for example we have a rather famous example of dwarfs living in jolly coexistence with treelves
culturally aos dwarfs got instructed by the same ancestor gods that shaped their culture back in the old world, so they're still going to have a tendency to favour traditions and hold onto grudges, but by necessity they were forced to be somewhat more humble and flexible in many instances, less dogmatic, more pragmatic.

>>96964674
What was the winning 40k list? Was it the 240 guardsmen type of list?

>>96964701
ADmech I think, which is almost as much of a horde army as guard but priced like an elite army

>>96964701
Just checked, lots of ironstriders which are apparently more dollars than they're worth in points lol. Look pretty cool though.

>>96965235
i dunno if its fucked up or apt that slaves to darkness has some kind of right to all the weird creatures of the realms.
I guess kruel boyz have some weird stuff, but its not enough.

Is the yelloe stuff in his gut supposed to be generic nurgle rot stuff or is it bodyfat? Pretty gnarly if it's the latter.
Also are these guys getting warscrolls in sigmar proper? They're not mentioned in the little blurb.

>>96965584
>Also are these guys getting warscrolls in sigmar proper? They're not mentioned in the little blurb.
They're just alt sculpts for Blightkings

>>96965584
>>96965628
The power of reading. Listed under the Battletomes blurb.

>>96965646
Notice how this doesn't mention those guys. Pox wretches are the small dudes and the court is clearly the heroes

>>96965665
Exactly. If they were going to have an individual warscroll, they'd have been listed. Since there's only 3 of them, I feel like you could make them the individual Lord of X's.

>>96965646
I know, but unlike the characters, wretches and cankerborn, they're not explicitely mentioned, which is why I asked.
I guess they could be under "his court of supporting characters", but it's ambiguous, and I was wondering if there was some confirmation either way.

>>96965584
it would depend on how the sprues are arranged, from what I gathered the two shamans and the big dude are on shared sprues, so they would get sold as a bundle together, the cancerborn are on a neatly separate sprue, so they're definitely staying as an individual unit, while the kelpies and wretches are on one half of a sprue, separated from gors and whatever else by suspicious connection points that makes me think the moulds are modular enough for the wretches to be separated without issues later on; but I'm led to believe that everything else, like tokens, templars and pestigors will simply get lost and not get separate releases and rules.
also because you can use the templars as rotswords and the gors for their multipart kit here.

People really like using the new deathbringer for painting tutorials

Hopefully a Darkwater expansion adds a Pestigor Beastlord, all they'd really need at that point (presuming the wizard is generic on his warscroll) is a little diversity like hounds or something

>>96965846
I don't think they plan on having expansions with models

>>96965855
Every past game had them and we know they shit out moulds for less

>>96965880
silver tower didn't
cursed city either didn't or dumped the expansions contents as regular releases instead
nurgle got a bigass wave announced already

>>96965941
silvter tower im pretty sure did, although most of them turned into reused assets.

How do the new guys hold up to the cursed city gang in your options? First thing that comes to mind is that darkwater has significantly less ranged weapons compared to these guys. Wonder if that's gameplay related?

>>96965949
fuck I hate AOS dwarves so much.

>>96965958
dwarfs*

>>96965967
midget freaks*

>>96965967
*Duardin

>>96965941
Silver Tower didn't have traditional expansions but they sold boxes with heroes.
Cursed City was supposed to include new models according to Chris Peach.
It'd be unusual considering the 40k game prior to Cursed City and the fact Chinese production is bypassed with the main components being the book-board GW produces in the UK.

>>96965958
Watch yer tone laddie
Also while we're here what's going on with underworlds, we expecting any new warbands in the foreseeable future? Looks like we haven't heard much since spitewood's release.

>>96966013
Damn that looks so retarded with the big balloons.

>>96965949
I mean, obviously? Darkwater has small preset arenas with slow Nurgle enemies. It's hard to imagine the hoard based CC modes or agile enemies that necessitate range tbhon

>>96965998
>Cursed City was supposed to include new models according to Chris Peach.
They released those as the named characters in SBGL

>>96965949
Generally I prefer the dark water stuff more, but I’m more attuned with Druidic stuff than Slavic asthetics or whatever these guys have going on.

>>96966020
Could be worse

>>96966021
The kurnothi guy going to be weird to play them then because he looks to be very mobile too
>>96966042
>oldhammer dorf shit
They should bring back picrel for chorfs, after bazookas of course

>>96966042
from the thumbnail it looked like a shark rider

>>96966065
It'd be on my list but not at the top!

>>96965846
I think it'd be cool if an expansion had plague skaven as an enemy

>>96966100
>it's real
What the fuck, this is pygmy tier memoryholed

>>96966153
You're just a newfag secondary

>>96966164
Does aos even have secondaries? Where would they come from?

>>96966187
There's a possibility BL has generated a few but I seriously doubt it. WHF does but that piggybacks off games and a general fanfare for the fluff that's easy to stumble on... You'd have to try hard to find anyone selling you on AoS fluff (for better or worse)

>>96966213
"AoS has no secondaries/tertiaries because it's not popular enough" is ACTUALLY fucking with my head. I never considered that man, fuck.

>>96965949
CC guys felt more varied rhat DW gang. Someone correctly atated DW is just 2 sets linked by the water lady. Forest freakshit and boring city

>>96966365
It's because there is no real secondary media (only people who own WH+ are primaris wanting free models). It has fucktone of tetriaries though. They're the reason those threads are insufrable so often

>>96966375
They're TWWH fakegrogs

Which do you think pairs better as a flavorful opponent against Maggotkin: Sylvaneth or Cities?

>>96966365
AoS is popular but in its niche as a miniatures game. If you're interested in fantasy in general you'll find out about the warhammer setting, WHFRP as an alternative to D&D, Warhammer Fantasy games, tens WHF of channels dedicated to the fluff, etc.
You can't say the same about AoS. The games are sparse and underwhelming, the RPG is basically irrelevant with no cultural impact let alone on AoS itself, the literature is BL tier without any grimderp appeal which is really all WHF lit had.
GW are trying, with blacktalon toys next to the desired 40k action figures and pushing these ICONIC BL characters but that's forced rather than natural so who knows how that'll turn out.
The surprising part is TOW has been similarly shafted. One novel three years in. An RPG as worthless as Soulbound running alongside WHFRP... It's puzzling.

>>96966545
AoS launched with Stormcast Vs Maggotkin, Sylvaneth being rallied by the victories, so it should be both.
Have Sylvaneth rescue CoS and fight alongside them.

>>96966587
Pretty good idea desu

>>96966545
Sylvaneth. They're very explicedly Nurgle's nemesis

>>96966187
>Where would they come from?
40k or fantasy?

>>96966750
AoS secondaries are the guys crying about joke rules and WHF being scrapped despite having played neither

>>96966769
That's just shitposters. Secondaries implies they actually ever engaged with something related to AoS,

>>96966799
They're tetriaries, people who only engage with what other people have said about a thing.
The same kind that beleive Orkz are keeping Emperor alive through their totally whacky beleif powers they sure have and use often in lore

>>96966854
Ork whacky belief powers aren't prominent? I thought everything from their endurance to their weapons were based upon it
Man 40k must be terrible

>>96966559
I'm so fucking tired of GW pushing Neave. Just please God gimme generic Stormcast characters. Something like the Embergard would be amazing: generic but still cool toned down heroes that fit in with the actual battle line models vs whatever is going on with Rostus bicep armor and the hideous mask armor Neave has.

>>96966986
I really wish we got way way more generic characters so it's easier to do your dudes.

>>96966986
We need a way to make Stormcast more yourdudesable

>>96967033
Generic Lord Commander kit would be a start. They need to write more than a blurb for stormhosts that aren't Hammers of Sigmar or Hallowed Knights.

>>96967048
They have most of the stormhosts are fleshed out to an equal degree in the tomes from 1 to now even though the fluff is 45% copy paste

Shadows Over Mystara but the character roster is a bunch of units from order factions. Y/n?

>>96967125
I want golden axe but it's the heroes from silver tower

>>96964163
>>96964344
>>96964699
jesus christ that sounds boring. What's next, culturally assimilated Skaven in dwarf holds?

>>96964163
>There's no racism in AoS
>He forgot the whole anti-Elf campaign in Excelcis while the Slaanesh Twins plotted under the city

>>96967186
You could probably soulbind with a skaven and force it to be nice

>>96967186
Everyone hates skaven, including skaven

>>96967307
anon they're souls are distinctly fucked as it is.

>>96963394
>ESL
>TWW secondary post
Iconic

>>96967186
>Relationships between factions and subfactions are more complex than "all elves hate all dwarves"
>this sounds boring
lead paint behavior

>>96967186
>No you don't get it, their dwarves, they HAVE to hate elves
A tired trope, I'm glad it's not present here. That's one of those annoying flanderizations of tolkiens elves that don't need to be in every piece of fantasy media.

>Lumineth
0 reason to be hated, unless some lore somewhere says once they were like "ew gay" and didn't help dwarves
>Sylvaneth
Only hateable if you live in Ghyran and your shit gets eaten by trees on a weekly basis and they kill you for eating fruit
>DoK
They love slavery, blood, and leather and hate men (the gender), BUT they hate chaos even more and maybe you just have to put up with the blood fountains and gladiator fights if it means no chaos corruption
>IDK
Hateable if you even know what they do and I'm guessing most don't go "hi I'm a sea elf, yeah so sometimes me and my boys will raid your lands and take your souls. Nothing personal mon'keigh, our god doesn't love us and cursed our souls with soul cancer."

>>96958555 (OP)
>TQ
Not really, im happy with Idoneth being the pirate-sea people, raiders.

>>96960971
I will be honest, I really really really like the new No-Darkwater nurgle boys (hairless goat pestigors and humans). Sooo sad GW doesnt give us a new Pestigor hero.

Hey anons, I'm starting khorne via several weird cheap lots. Is spamming Skullreavers and Wrathmongers with some heroes and bloodreavers or maybe a bloodthirster a decent idea?

During the reveal stream they mentioned the Nurgle Knights as having some special, powerful rule, but that's all I could make out; even on their best day their Bri'ish mumbling is hard to understand, but the audio issues were brutal.

Did anyone catch what rule they were trying to hype up? Absolutely disgusting (in a good way) sculpts, I'll be so happy if they're not ass on the table.

>>96968046
DoK don't hate men, they think men are weaker because their men are weaker due to Morathi making them weaker out of fear (weird lore if you ask me). They like human men quite a lot.

>>96968705
From what I could make out its that they're very much Nurgle specific Chaos Knights, shock cavalry that hit like "an absolute freight train" and also have a 3+ to make a unit strike last "no matter what".

I'm kinda disappointed in Darkwater. It's not as interesting as Cursed City and even the ending will be just... an ending because they can't pull off what they did to Radukar in CC which was cool as fuck. They could but they can't sinxe he's a Daemon Prince right away. That fat hang guy should've been the main antagonist and fot his Daemon Prince form after the game like Radukar. That was cool as fuck.

>>96968733
I think you just like power scaling stuff anon.

>>96968707
>Morathi made men elves weak subby twinks because she's scared of alpha males impregnating her again
lmfao

>>96968733
just wait til the pestilens expansion drops

>>96966042
kharadron would be infinitely better if they had propellers instead of balloons

>>96968887
you somehow made a dumber suggestion

>>96968887
I dont know, balloons are cool; and its a good thing AoS separate itself from WHF (they may have similar things and "inspired", but i dont like "copy-paste" aesthetically)

I think Kharadrons would do well with an arty piece, but to make it different from Zharrdron arty, they could get nautical with it and drop floating sea mines that hover over the ground or explosive tipped harpoons to kill monsters

I dont really have good ideas on how to expand khadrons range. I just like to head canon that some of them are really good at boxing and engage in prize fighting.

>>96958555 (OP)
My life was better in 2018.

I think KO are one of the most complete armies of AoS. What else they would need?

>>96968984
A heavy melee troop would be nice, like a unit version of the admiral.

Also some kind of balloon jetbike

And a transport somewhere around frigate size but with fewer/no guns and more transport capacity, like a barge

>>96968887
There's this pic I always see, and honestly smokestacks are a pretty neato alternative.

>>96968984
More elite melee infantry, more melee focused heroes.
Better designed cavalry in the form of gliders or small planes.
stationary gun emplacement, some kind of slow moving artillery piece that's seperate from the boats.
Some kind of animal, the only thing they have so far is the tiny drill beak parrot that sits on one of the champions shoulders. I might be mistaken, but pretty much every other faction has something like that but KO. Giving them some literally metal birds would be cool.
Alternative to animals, more drone style units like the faction terrain has, but bigger focus on combat over support.
More aethergold mining related units, right now it's pretty much just the aether khemist and mining aethergold is the backbone of their entire society.
A dedicated bomber boat for fly by's.
A submarine looking boat for ultra high altitude/low orbit flying
There's a million cool things they can do, they just have to pick something and do it. I'm sure more boats are on the way, I just hope they'll do other things besides generic infantry and foot heroes to flesh out the range.

>>96963887
I do have a leftover ghoul king from the zombie dragon...I might sculpt a collar for him. dunno how im gonna handle the chain though.

>>96969148
That one's neat
But my gripe is more with the balloon infantry
Literally anything would be better than what they have now

>>96969149
Doing the salvagers was honestly a weird choice. They are almost completely redundant with skywardens, both on the table and visually. Don't get me wrong I love the models, I got 10 of them, but it added absolutely nothing new to the army except visual confusion for opponents when you field wardens and salvagers alongside each other and they have to remember which is which

Think she'll go out with me?

Now that the dust has settled, is anyone shelving their armies until 5th edition?

>>96969204
>she
not with those stompers

>>96968812
No. I thought it was cool that he survived and showed his true form at the end. It was a good narrative.

>>96968886
Yeah they will get something but it would've been cool if the main bad guy got defeated but it was too late because he corrupted that Temple and Nurgle raises him up as a Daemon Prince so he can get revenge. The big arm guy was perfect for that.

Are any units in Maggotkin in fear of Squatting besides Blightkings and good ol' Festus?

>>96969207
I've got 6k pts of gits I've been considering selling for a while. I was on the fence, but the 4e refresh convinced me they have no one on the team even remotely interested in the army. It's rules went from miserable and random to less random and more miserable, 75% of their roster is always dogshit and they lean on spamming 1 or 2 busted units which makes everyone hate you, and they REFUSE to make the mangler good or fun, and have limited its only interesting bit to once per turn army, ensuring anyone with more than 1 mangler or boss just gets to eat a shit sandwich because gw said so

>>96969223
I believe the new spearhead is intended to sell as much of the warcry band to eventually remove it, now that the army has a different basic infantry unit

the lord of of plagues on foot is also a relatively old miniature that I believe they might simply end up removing, and the same could happen to gutrot spume, since his blightkings fellows are gone

>>96969223
That one hero that comes with a square but I still wouldn’t count on it.

>>96969238
>I believe the new spearhead is intended to sell as much of the warcry band to eventually remove it, now that the army has a different basic infantry unit
Quaint schizo theory.

>>96969223
i personally think glottkin, the maggotlords, and possible the older daemons are all in the danger zone. the blightking refresh, when that was a perfectly modern and sericable plastic kit, says to me they want to cut all ties with any model kits from pre-aos, likely after the blowout from the old world stealing back a bunch of shit and forcing them to scrap their whole planned 3e release cycle

probably not right away, but i have my doubts any of those units will survive 5th edition intact.

>>96969238
the warcry band? no

the daemons? yes

>>96969247
If they wanted to do away with it they wouldn’t have kept the blight king title.

>>96969247
I'll say it 'til I'm blue in the face:

That new RoR for Maggotkin is just a stock dump. Aside from the hero, it's old plastic that doesn't move.

>>96969262
How old is the tree?

>>96969254
it would make sense to replace the beast of nurgle with a 3-models kit, but I don't see that happening anytime soon

>>96969261
no thats exactly the point though. even for units they want to keep, they need new kits because they are in danger of old world going above their head (apparently the 3e range thefts were completely done without any input or notice to the aos team until it was a done deal) and get their models ripped out from under them, so even for units that they may want to keep, like blightkings, maggotlords, or potentially other central units for other armies like dryads or witch elves, they will need new plastic so old world has no claim to it

>>96969264
3 years or so? It's not old by GW standards, but it's not new and I've never heard of anyone buying them. Even the diehard DG player here - who owns every single model - refuses to touch it.

>>96969242
They still sell the square Wight King.

>>96969254
>>96969272
Why would they replace the daemons and beast when they didn't replace or remove Bloodletters and they put those Nurgle daemons in the new Spearhead/RoR?

>>96969247
>i personally think glottkin, the maggotlords,
They already inserted them into AoS lore so they won't squat them.

>>96969272
>it would make sense to replace the beast of nurgle with a 3-models kit
What? How do you come to that conclusion?
>>96969274
You’re off your rocker anon. Next thing you’ll say is fetus is in danger of going back, endtimes centric stuff is core for Aos more than it is for fantasy battle.
Thought I wouldn’t mind if it forces them to refresh the entire blades of khorne range, and maybe the morghasts.

>>96969290
>How do you come to that conclusion?
It's an ugly ass and overpriced kit that only makes beasts of nurgle in one pose

>>96969286
Bloodletters are plain but perfectly fine.

>>96969298
I still don’t understand the train of logic here. Are you saying to just put the sprues in there or to remake it?

>>96969300
So are Plaguebearers.

>>96969300
Mold lines. The demons all have fucking awful mold lines thick enough to choke on.

>>96969304
Plaguebearers came later but are worse because their joints are more visible
But yeah, I wouldn't replace plaguebearers either if it was up to me

>>96954721
the legion grows

Man if blood thirsters weren’t all in that retarded pose id make the baleful lords aor. At least the gore chosen aor seems like a fun hobby project.

>>96969308
All of the demons that aren't the great ones, need to be replaced. All of them are varying degrees of garbage. Though I think horrors look the best, and are passable when all of the others really aren't.

>>96969204
When was the last tike you showered?

>>96969407
Do it anyway.

>>96969407
skarabrand offers a different body you can use and angron can be easily converted into a normal thirster
a recast of anngrath or khabanda offers a 4th one or 5th one and then you can get archon studio's balor and mantic's lord of lies more 2 more

>>96969421
>Though I think horrors look the best, and are passable
opinion discarded

>>96969483
>>96969407
these guys are all roughly the same size so yeah, you have options

I'll be getting into Maggotkin as my first Age of Sigmar army. I'm a World Eater enjoyer in 40k.
What am I in for? Also am I mistaken or do the new models have some Celtic or even Druidic inspirations?

>>96969499
The bloodthirsters pose really is weird, why did they want to have him jumping off the fire so bad?

>>96969541
he's being launched by a flaming fart

>>96969540
Historically maggotkin have been a very passive or a really hero hammer army. Im talking three great unclean one spam kind of hero hammer, thricefold befoulment was its moniker iirc. Wouldnt be surprised if that makes its way into an army of renown, but beyond that uh...back to it being passive, yeah know your army is really friggin slow. Though pestigors might change the dynamic of the army up hopefully.

>>96969541
It would be cool if it was on blood instead of flames, I kinda feel like doing that now but fucking with resin is beyond my scope.

>>96969567
>your army is really friggin slow

this is a myth. maggotkin has actually been quite fast for a while, it just gets its speed in unusual ways. weather thats affliction cyst, the slime fleet, blightkrieg, attention seekers, ripe pastures, or in previous editions like the drowned men pregame move or 2nd editions feculent chimes which let nurgle units run and charge if they were within range of a gnarlmaw

it looks slow on paper but it can get in your face almost immediately through deployment shenanigans and has a shocking amount of out of phase movement via its random countercharge shit from glottkin and beasts.

>>96969540
Idk how world eaters play, I'm assuming pretty agressive? Maggotkin are very tanky and very slow, sit on objectives, debuff the enemy, immoveable object type army. That might change a little with the new sloven knights and rotswords, they emphasized how they were more agressive, similarily pestigors are probably going to be decently fast. We'll see soon I suppose
>celtic or even druidic
The 'folk belief' thing is definitely something they're going for with the new designs, lots of wicker effigies and stuff. Festus has a huge wicker fly on top of his model, and the standard bearers of blight kings and rotswords seem to mimick maypoles. Idk enough about celtic stuff to really make a judgement but I think it's there yeah, especially the triple swirl motif you see on some of the pox wretches

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>>96969615
Maggotkin look slow and it makes sense but some descriptions make them out to be quite fast like the Rotswords who are described close to Nurgle Berzerkers. In any case they look cool and disgusting. Also not as happy as the usual Nurgle stuff.

Are pic related going to be a normal 3 man unit or is that only for Darkwater? Honestly this release reminds me of Elden Ring somehow.

>>96969540
>no seraphon hero in Dankwater
Of course we needed another goddamn elftaur instead.

>>96969643
Previous nurgle release went hard on the happy stuff, so I suppose they're balancing it out now with some more dour guys. Still some of that mirth there though, the demon prince looks like he's having a grand old time.
And yeah made me think of elden ring at times too. Not the first time this had happened in aos, ushoran got a lot of those comments too. Makes sense, elden ring was a bonafide fantasy phenomenon, so it's going to influence gw's idea of what people want. Similar thing happened with warcraft 10+ years ago, and you can clearly see the influence on end times and release aos stuff.

>>96969659
This guy looks like straight from a Fromsoft game based on Age of Sigmar. I look at him and I feel like rolling.

>>96965949
These guys were pure SOVL. Every one of them a cool CHAD. The initial Darkwater guys are just fine. The Centaur and Furry are CRINGE. The Wizard is good. Well I guess pic related has potential but her hobbit feet are weird.

>>96969666
I would unabashedly consoom the fuck out of an aos souls game

>>96969262
There are no such thing as stock dumps. Only the dumbest and least informed people in the community mistakenly think that's a thing.

>>96969706
nta but those boxes are so shit they might as well be stock dump

>>96969711
if it makes the tree cheaper on secondary markets that box is neat for me indriectly.

I'm glad that this dude is getting friends to lead.

>>96969715
I doubt it. People buying it will buy it for the tree and not plaguebearers.

>gitz range is pure kino
>kruleboyz are cool despite what haters say
>nurgle gets a entire new range of elden ring style miniatures
Being a stinky mushroom poison chad always pays off.
Pestilence update when?

>>96969744
Kruleboyz are cool it's just that they should be a separate army (I know they kinda are) but they are counted as Orruks and all of their players are into the classic Ironjawz so they felt cheated even though the Ironjaw update came after all.

>Pestilence
Probably next edition (as a warcry band) but something might happen as a DLC for Darkwater. Though it might be more Maggotkin humans. Jade Abbey... Abbey Monks... Plague Monks.. huh, huh?

Pic related are pilgrims. Where are the monks?

Are the Warcry/Underworlds novels any good?

>>96969770
I'll let you know in the next thread, hopefully. At least for the book written by Reynolds.

I ordered a whole hunch of blighted plastic crack... The realization that I'll need to painted is setting in.

how do you feel about the default scheme for seraphon? does it work? i've never really understood the blue, of all the colors to paint a lizard, lizards come in a lot of colors but blue usually isnt one of them

>>96969744
I think pestilens has been mentioned by one of the rumourmongers, so soon™
>>96969754
>where are the monks
Blight templars I guess. The fluff description of the jade abbey gave me more military order vibes (teutons, livonian brothers, hospitaller, ...)

>>96969823
Esshin are sooner™

>>96969823
They had a female priestess (that hag) so I think it was a normal-ish abbey.

>>96969798
I like it a lot but I went with a darker turquoise for the scales

>>96969798
Correct me if I'm wrong but weren't the oldhammer hunched snakelike saurus usuallt green? Either way the blue has become fairly iconic.

>>96969770
Harrowdeep was okay. Some solid horror in the main novella and a story about the shared class struggles of a human thug and aspiring scourge privateer woman with the other.
I hope SP survive, especially considering Nick Horth placed emphasis on them in his attempt to kickstart the setting with lamentations and the shorts around Callis and Toll.
>Fleetmaster already OOP
Fuck

>>96969666
This guy is straight up lifted from boss baby

>>96969689
>her hobbit feet are weird.
I think it'd have been fun if she had actual weird feet hidden under the dress. Like chicken feet or hooves.

>>96969869
Yep old saurus were green

>>96969689
Is this Inara an elf, a human, or a half-breed?

>>96969962
>half-breed?
You could call her that

How do you even fight against this? I'd pass out from the smell alone. I genuinely think that Nurgle is the scariest enemy in both AoS and 40k.

>>96969999
nice digits but also yeah they are disgusting, khorne is probably the best one to fight as they'll just kill you and be done.

>>96969999
>How do you even fight against this?
Faith, gunpowder and steel

>>96969798
there's a reason both the lizards and the aliens of avatar are blue, it complements well with the jungle and looks alien

>>96969999
It's not even how to fight against it. Imagine you won, but then the land and water supply, plants and animals are corrupted and sick. And even if you can cleanse it (which is not always the case), it will take a lot of time and resources.

>>96970097
>>96969999
this is one of the reasons why there are so many priesthoods in age of sigmar. you pretty much need divine intervention to heal the land from chaos corruption

>>96966365
Depends what you mean by "popular", in terms of people who buy the models and play the game it's fairly popular, but you don't have any of those people who watch a youtube video on the lore and then start talking about how they're real fans or some shit like you do with 40k and WHF. This is a good thing.

>>96966559
The thing is WFRP's fanbase has been pretty much entirely distinct from WFB's fanbase almost since day 1. It's why a lot of the grogs hated the fact that 4e brought the game closer to what the actual battlegame was like.

But yeah in terms of the RPGs C7 have just really been fucking it over with TOW and AoS (not looked at their 40k ones), the games revolve around a very specific storyline you basically have to do (Grim Portents and being Soulbound, respectively), and there are ways to ignore this, but those ways are just "Oh don't use half the rules in the book," in which case why even play in the first place.

>>96967033
Have it so that they're able to get reforged at the various Stormkeeps rather than having to have it done at Azyr, it allows the Storhmosts to actually develop their own cultures seperate from each other. It just doesn't work when they all just come straight from Azyr anyway.

>>96964046
No Dwarfs (except Gotrek I suppose) and Elves are fine with each other, they only had that animosity because of the grudge from the war of the beard, but all dwarf grudges were deemed fulfilled in End Times. I'm pretty sure this also applies to greenskins too lol.

>>96965949
>Cursed City stuff burned down in a fire a few weeks ago
>Insurance won't pay for it because I don't have the receipt
>It's out of print so I'd need to go on ebay and pay a ridiculous price if I wanted it replaced

>>96970162
if its any consolation the player character models are very cheap on the secondary market, like $5-10 a piece.

the undead are quite a bit more expensive though

>>96970117
As a kid/teenager, I used to read Warhammer Fantasy and 40K novels despite not knowing anything about the game really. In theory that sort of thing is still possible with AoS, except...do kids even read books anymore? Certainly the days of grabbing random fantasy novels from the local library because that's all you had access to have come and gone.

>>96970173
A good friend of mine teaches at an elementary school and according to her once you get to like age 10 50% of the class has a smartphone. I think books as we know them aren't surviving gen alpha.

>>96970173
roblox is THE thing for them.

>>96969999
>>96970097
It would be scary in WHFB, because it's tied to an actual place, and permanence. In AoS it's a nothinburger because self-cleaning Magic Realms.

>>96970173
The only people under 30 who still read fantasy are women and teenage girls who read rape porn, so basically if they want AoS to take off as a setting they need to bring the Fimir back.

>>96970199
anon I hate to break it to you but fantasy battle is a fantasy, not real.
>in AoS it's a nothinburger-
Darkwater

>>96970207
The Milking Farm (featuring Sigvald the Magnificent from Warhammer:Age of Sigmar series)

>>96970231
They really made a mistake putting beastmen back into Old World

>>96970240
We have monogod beastmen still. Only Khorn is missing models at the moment

>>96970117
Yes, we're all shareholders here so that's the main thing...

are magmadroths dragons?

>>96970207
>vyrkos are both vampires AND werewolves
they were on to something

>>96970270
Vulcatrix was a dragon in the Glarung vein, but birthed Ignax who is a flying snake kind of dragon

>>96970270
depends on how you define dragon, but they're definitely some kind of fire breathing reptiles
vulkatrix has also mothered ignax, who's definitely very dragon-looking, so even if they weren't dragons they would be close relatives

Spiderfang refresh never ever

>>96970317
I'm still holding out hope they'll get an underworlds warband, gw loves giving gitz warbands

>>96969999
Throw stuff at them. They're slow and short ranged

>>96970270
>4 limbs
You already know the anwser

>>96970284
The original dracula could always turn into a wolf so its not that original

It's weird Vyrkos clearly play upon the threat of pack predators, with the emphasis on the bloodline lineage and branches, but Bloodborn were squatted so it's basically irrelevant and another isolated solitary threat and even the original bloodlines come across as more unified by omission of internal hostilities

NEW THREAD
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>>96970367
>>96970367
COME ON GIRLS, ALL ABOARD