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Ashes to Ashes Edition

>Most recent bracket system update
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-october-21-2025

>Outline article introducing the bracket system
https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/introducing-commander-brackets-beta

>Current banlist
https://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned

>Former Commander website, where you can learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committee
https://mtgcommander.net

>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet
https://www.edhrec.com

>Learn about PDH, Commander's budget pauper format
https://pdhhomebase.com/
https://www.pdhrec.com/

>Deck list site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices
https://www.archidekt.com
https://www.moxfield.com
https://www.tappedout.net

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity
https://managathering.com

>Card search
https://scryfall.com

>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheap
https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM

>Precons
https://magicprecons.com

>TQ
Do people at your LGS allow as many mulligan as you want?

Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)

I wish we got a better Azula full art

>>96959377
I wish we had gotten a better IP than Avatar

bumpan for ideas
https://archidekt.com/decks/16541659/parnesse

I have spider web like triggers and mechanics, I removed sin prodder and added requiem monolith because it can be draw, and I can kill with it in multiple ways. The only major caveat is activation timing. If I use it with radiant performer, I can have all creatures have it - and then potentially hit for lethal with cerebral vertex if they draw only a little. I can also use it with tempt with reflections or cephalid facetaker and create tokens that permanently have it. I have ashling, so this is more of a backup. Incendiary command is flexiblee, but isn't super lethal, but it can wheel. Ill-timed explosion is just a board wipe, but it can be a big one and let's me draw. Call forth the tempest is awesome, but requires 8 mana on top of the 5 I've already dropped, so it's a mana geyser/seething song requirement to bust this out.


also, immolation man

>TQ:
people who have conniptions over having to bottom 1 or 2 cards for a good hand are so bad at this game i hate them.

>>96959189
The Blue Spirit is a truly useless pick with the amount of creatures you're running. It sounds nice to flash in something with firebending mana but its just ramping with extra steps. And the copy you would get is irrelevant because you have 6 non legendary creatures, 2 of them with innate flash and practically no relevant ETBs. As it is the list reads like youre just kind of hoping you don't die before you can set up a very telegraphed Aggravated Assault/Hellkite Charger infinite. But a 4/4 with no keywords except firebending who needs to be attacking is going to die a lot, even with the meager amount of protection you have. Temur Battle Rage, Embercleave and other combat tricks go a long way. Prioritize first/double strike and trample so she can survive combat. Maybe some swords of x/y to protect from stp and the like.

>>96959442
if a hand is playable, you should play it. or at least that's how I do it, I only ever mulligan if I straight up can't play the hand more or less.

Always 1 free mulligan and Ill usually tell people who reveal 0 or all lands the next time to take another free one but in the spirit of getting in as many games as I can Im always pushing people to get going as fast as possible either way.

I could have kept a playable hand but mulled recently to get a removal for a KOS commander and didn't get punished for it
I think I'm drunk with power now

>>96959507
Worst meme since scrimblo brimblofag

>>96959524
t. Had a melty because he saw the wrong memeblo brimblo on 4 chins

I bought these cards and have no idea what I was cooking

>>96959583
meth, clearly.

>>96959585
>>96959583
Lmao

>>96959589
>>96959583
Storm? Cantrips into some big commander-based payoff? Destined Black Mage spellslinging?

Rate my decky
Wash my belly
Clean my belly
https://archidekt.com/decks/17343619/azula_combat_copies

>>96959589
All kino except FF slop

>b-b-but muh Amano

Shut up. Pick up the Masques, Urzas or foil jap manga promo Urza's if you gotta show your weebness off.

Any mono-white commanders with an effect similar-ish to this?

>>96959632
Lmao no

had an interview over zoom at wotc for game designer. 2nd round, maro himself shows up. doesnt say shit the entire time while the other 2 women ask random questions. after 30-45 minutes of staring at me, he asks me to design 2 cards, and then laughed at my idea, quickly concluding the meeting.

My ideas aren't stupid.

I came up with this right off the top of my head,

Descent into Anus
2B
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a despair counter on this enchantment, then each player reveals the top X cards and puts them into their hand then loses X life, where X is the number of despair counters on this enchantment.

>The hole lead down in both directions.

>>96959351 (OP)
>Do people at your LGS allow as many mulligan as you want?
Some people at my store allow one additiona free mulligan if you've gone down to 5 cards or less, but if you're a regular or do that too often the n you get told to suck it up and deck build better

r8 and h8

>another rakdos player who cheats mana and then plays this as a inisher

yaaaaawn just fucking let me scoop bro

Is a mono white lifegain deck with Felidar Guardian/Test of Endurance too strong for bracket 3? It technically wins as early as turn 4.
I'm using Aerith as commander. I just can't think of any other way to win.

>>96959632
No. There's a reason blue is king when it comes to card draw. There's a lot more but these are included in every deck I build with blue

>>96959814
>Is a mono white lifegain deck with Felidar Guardian/Test of Endurance too strong for bracket 3?
No. Those are perhaps the most telegraphed and well-known wincons ever with lifegain decks, if your opponents don't save removal for the most obvious cards you'll ever play, then that's on them for being too stupid for bracket 3 games. Be sure to include pic rel for a "daring today, aren't we?" reaction from the table

>>96959824
>There's a reason blue is king when it comes to card draw
Well the reason I ask about White specifically is because Blue has a few commanders that do it, Green has Toski, Black has Gix and Gonti, Red has... some really shitty impulse draw effects or impulse-theft or discard-draw that you can build around wide evasive stuff. I was wondering if white had anything in that vein or if it was the odd one out.

>>96959738
Yeah losing is pretty boring huh

>>96959867
These are the only ones that even come close to combat-related card draw. White does not do card draw from combat

>>96959814
>It technically wins as early as turn 4.
Brackets arent about how early you can win, they are about how early you can CONSISTENTLY win.

Please treat me like I'm retarded. I just don't understand why this card is so broken. I get that companions were busted from the beginning, but are people just Entombing some powerful 2cmc cards and running away with the game?

>>96959632
No, because of two things
>White is supposed to have the worst card advantage
>Giving this to the best color at making tokens will have a very obvious outcome

whats the best way to get into magic?

>>96959992
Precons with friends, or at a casual playing night at the LGS. Research the precon that best fits what you think would be fun and go for it

>>96960012
Like I said, treat me like I'm retarded. There are much better ways to generate infinite/lots of mana, why would this ever be played?

>>96959992
Great question, sadly there is no good answer to it.
Commander is a very compelling format to people just starting, it allows you more creativity in your deck building, so you aren't just playing some meta netdeck, and really allows you to have "your" deck.
But commander also has a bunch of extra nonsense rules, is a multiplayer format, and has a cardpool that is composed of almost every magic card to ever exist, making is a fairly complex format.
Limited requires you to already know how to play to not get blown out, you can't really just show up to a draft for your first experience.
And obviously most constructed formats are right out due to a higher level of competition.

So what is left? I don't know, have somebody you already know teach you how to play with some learn to play decks or something. Maybe arena can help here too

>>96960021
Lurrus is mostly a problem for shit like vintage, not commander. In vintage, your opponent isn't just waiting 6 turns to let you assemble your infinite mana combo.

My attempt at a Jin-Sakai bracket 3 deck for my friend group. I'm not sure if this is good because I'm still relatively new but I wanted to do a Voltron-style deck that doesn't need a perfect curve to get onto the board.

https://moxfield.com/decks/EHsFcCpMpkGz5uA5Vnjpqg

>>96960041
Whoa is this the revival of Rafiq decks?? It powercreeps him in every way

Building a deck around this fella. Pure hate.

>>96960063
Shit like this is the ultimate litmus test to see if you're a shitter or not. I would LOVE to play against this bad boy. 2 cards for 2 life? Every turn?? For free??? Hell yeah I'd buy you a beer for running him. I would counterspell whatever removal another player uses against him

>>96959814
No

>>96960083
I've got about 25 cards in it that punish you for having all those cards, and that make you draw even more. It's going to be hilarious once I get it together and take it out to play.

>>96959738
Bro your interaction?

>>96959738
sac all my creatures into phyrexian altar
response?

>>96960047
It doesn't have green so that's somewhat limiting in combat trick stuff but it's weird exalted but counting for every separate player is definitely more versatile. I wonder if that will become a new keyword or something.

>>96959897
>>96959986
Wizards will print a hybrid azorius symmetrical coastal piracy at 3cmc in nu-lorwyn after they announce the hybrid rule changes. Blue because it's coastal piracy, white because it's symmetrical.

why can't they just ban kinnan

>>96960336
That's not how hybrid mana works.

>>96959738
Beginning of combat, tap Homeward Path.

>>96960427
It will be. You haven't been paying attention?

>>96960435
>he spent $20 on a silver bullet for threaten effects

so if a card has hybrid colorless... can it go in anydeck?

>>96960462
Yup.

>>96960471
>inb4 some mega retard thinks anyone is casting this for six
Treasures, exotic orchard, fellwar stone, and various one-of-any-color lands and rocks go into nearly every deck by default.

>>96960448
Try even a little harder

>>96960471
Thanks Trinket Mage! I'm with you on the boycott of Lorwyn!

>>96960063
Fine taste, oath-brother.

>>96960063
seizan group slug (don't go wheels, that's inconsistent as fuck) is a b2 deck at most
set your expectations accordingly

>>96960471
>tutor that you have to reveal and waste a turn spending 6 mana for
Nice hand info, FAGGOT.

>>96960598
>power level
Who cares? I get to use cards I haven't used in decades and have fun..

>>96959934
Because in 1v1 formats, the game ends much faster due to you only needing to get through 1 opponent with 20 life, instead of 3 opponents with 40 life each. As a result his condition is much less punishing to work around and makes it so everything you cast is impossible to kill, making it extremely hard for your opponent to stabilize against your aggression.

>>96960615
>tutor that you have to reveal
This is every tutor outside of black.
>but that tutor is black
Not in my mono red deck it isn't.
>and waste a turn spending 6 mana for
>>96960484

SOON

>>96959934
Yes being able to loop to best 2 mana etb/sac in your deck every turn is pretty good.

>>96960803
VERY SOON

>>96960419
Preach brother

>>96960484
>inb4 someretard thinks a 3 cmc tutor is worth running

>>96960775
Ah yeah there's the problem: I was only having a Commander mindset. I have this issue with most cards that everyone calls broken and I'm sitting here like "no the fuck it ain't..........???"

>>96960812
EXTREMELY SOON

>>96960448
>>96960471
>No hybrid is absolutely winning.

God you guys are making a mistake.
If wotc isn't allowed to use hybrid how it's designed too, they are just going to retire it and make something that does work how they want. You should stick with the devil you know.

What's wotc run on, a 2 year design cycle? 1.5 - 2 years, you guys are going to be regretting not just letting hybrid slide.

>>96960869
Yeah but in all fairness, forcing them to print cards that say "this card's mana cost can be paid with blue mana instead of red" or something like that just because of some autists bitching about something as petty as this would be pretty funny

>>96960869
>God you guys are making a mistake.
The vote doesn't matter. They've already stated the outcome they want.

>>96960892
>zuko passed up the opportunity to make lavabenders with THIS in favor of some cheating bitch

>>96960892
damn, she's got some big tits

>>96960889
They already do this and it's the worst blight on textbox space imaginable.

>>96960083
It's a generic wheel draw-punish deck like every other Nekusar clone out there.
It's just Sheoldred for hipsters.

>>96960923
Lmao, that is such a hilariously stupid line of text

>>96960904
>thinking he didn't plow that field

I want to build a deck where casting this is the wincon. Suggestions?

>>96960860
I’m for removing almost all of the banquet due to power cards, but this needs to stay banned. Same with Bargain. >>96960915
Based.

>>96960198
>>96960939
Oh so it's just "Nekusar but in worse colors" yeah never mind

>>96960951
Include lots of cards that do this so your library is way bigger than everyone else's after he drops, and you can keep doing it over and over

>>96960940
Hybrid mana should be an "or"
Twobrid mana shouldn't count for color identity
Color indicators shouldn't count for color identity.

>>96960956
Fine you can have him, then. Shake on it?

>>96960962
What did you think it was retard just free cards? Damn zoomers are retarded

>>96960984
100% a GC

>>96960990
>What did you think it was retard just free cards?
Do you have any idea how bad the decks are that get posted here? Yes the fuck I did.

Most of the banlist could have come off if we stuck with the original vision for brackets. Here's the full list of cards that would not fit in b4:
>Contract From Below
>Darkpact
>Demonic Attorney
>Jeweled Bird
>Bronze Tablet
>Tempest Efreet
>Rebirth
>Amulet of Quoz
>Timmerian Fiends
>Shahrazhad
>Chaos Orb
>Falling Star

>>96960978
Yeah, I was thinking about that approach. Picking a commander that supports self mill with it secretly not being a graveyard deck and only caring about recurring the pile to avoid drawing out.

>>96961006
You don't wanna go the cheap/boring way of tutoring him out every game, just add a ton of looting/draw effects. Black has a bunch of it

>>96961004
errata ante as just exile and every single card is now legal, elegant and clean
>do it wotc, i dare you

>>96961026
>1-mana draw 7
Maybe in b4.

>>96961028
>Discard your hand, exile the top card of your library, then draw seven cards.
maybe when polukranos rotates

>>96961028
1 mana draw 7 instantly elevates to above Power 9 level, which I absolutely want to fucking see. The shitstorm would be marvelous

Unbanning Time Walk wouldn’t change the game much; The One Ring is far more powerful and abusable.

>>96961026
>>96961028
I unironically want this, even if it only lasts a week before being rebanned. Ante has some fun cards.
Or maybe I'll just start telling people I'm playing unsymmetrical ante with them having no obligation to bet a card but me still wagering one to see if they'll take it as a reasonable rule 0 to allow ante cards.

>>96960041
>2/4 not dying to bolt
>draws just one card not too broken
>neat text/trick thing
Cool! Everything going for it to be a neat commander…
>$150 secret lair
Lmfao oh how foolish of me to stave my cynicism for only a moment.

>>96961108
Literally and unironically just proxy it

>>96961084
Tempest Efreet is still unworkable because it exchanges ownership without using the ante zone.

>>96961145
>change in ownership is permanent
holy fuck lmao early Magic was WILD. Imagine trading your fucking Efreet for a Black Lotus or some other expensive card

>>96961153
I guarantee you most people playing in 1994 would be quite disappointed to pull a black lotus from their opponent's hand.

>>96960471
>implying they let generic hybrid be played as if it was colorless
Maybe if it had actual colorless pips like Ulalek

>>96961158
I guarantee you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about because people already knew back then how powerful it was

>>96959632
1 Life = 1 Card right?

>>96959583
That's why I play test the fuck out of the deck on deck building sites until I'm sick of it. If it doesn't hold up after 30-40 tests I don't bother building it

>>96961145
Just errata away the permanrnt ownership part
Getting an opponents card into your hand (with it sticking out like a sore thumb because ofc it would have different sleeves from yours) is cool

>>96961208
Richard Garfield thought so.

Hybridsisters. Brian Kibler said we're all retarded for wanting Kitchen Finks in mono white

>>96961224
There are no effects that can put a card into a hidden zone owned by different player.

>>96961231
Tempest efreet does

>>96960980
So if you run a hybrid mana card in a mono color deck then it's only a mono colored card while in your deck?

>>96961227
It is 1993.
You are designing the first set for a funny card game where you pretend to be a wizard.
You want to make a signature card for each color that costs one of that color of mana and does 3 of something.

Which effect do you give to White?

>>96961244
Up to 3 target permanents you control phase out

>>96961244
Search your deck for 3 Plains.

>>96961244
if we look at in a more modern lens, return 3 creatures from the graveyard to the battlefield would probably be about on the same power level.

>>96961260
Wtf?

>>96961244
You skip your next 3 turns.

>>96961244
Realistically, probably something like making 3 1/1 soldier tokens. That probably would have been pretty good for the time, but today its uses would be fairly niche.

>>96960458
yes, unironically. opportunity cost is 0 since it taps for mana and theft is so abundant/incidental these days. I also run a single "shuffle back to your library" card for anti mill purposes and scavenger grounds in every deck

>have bruvac petitioners deck
>group hates mills
>shelve it
>see pic related
>dust off my bruvac deck and replace him with lo li
>group now hates how strong my deck is with just one "everybody mills" effect out

There's no pleasing people.

>>96961556
Tell your friends to play more recursion

>>96961583
They do
I milled it

The true litmus test for retardation is to show someone a mill deck and if they sperg out, they are retarded

I only hate mill decks if they do that faggy "mill 4 cards and repeat if you mill a land" type non-deterministic mill. So long as you are saying "mill 40 cards" or whatever, you are fine by me.

Its kind of crazy just how expensive this uncommon card is

>>96961244
untap 3 permanents

>>96961723
Luckily it's not a mtg card so there's no reason to buy it.

>>96961723
Because it has bunch of synergies and was only printed in one specific precon?

>>96961338
still cant dedice if this is worth running in my Rocco deck

>>96961723
It's an incredibly strong UB card that won't get a reprint for years, if ever, since UW reprints are explicitly a thing of the past and once the Fallout license expires it's basically reserve listed.

Food is only going to get stronger this year too. There's a 0.0% chance the Hobbit set won't have several busted food based commanders. The Cabbage Merchant is already turning heads.

>>96961556
>group dislikes thing
>come back around for sloppy seconds with more of thing
>wtf???

>>96961766
>It's an incredibly strong UB card that won't get a reprint for years, if ever, since UW reprints are explicitly a thing of the past and once the Fallout license expires it's basically reserve listed.
How fucked is it that UB cards are all pseudo reserve list. Why can't they just make reprints in universe. And ya cabbage guy seems kinda woke lol. I right realize how insane it is to just make mana rocks at remora speed

>>96961785
>How fucked is it that UB cards are all pseudo reserve list
its by design. i dont know what the other anon meant with
>UW reprints are explicitly a thing of the past

>>96961595
that shouldn't have stopped it from working

>>96961774
They're not crying about mill now though, they're crying that my petitioners bulk up too fast once loli's out.

>>96960448
The only reason I'm in favor for hybrid is so idiots will be forced to actually learn the color pie.

>>96961230
Why?

>>96961041
Retard

>>96961841
Because the colour identity restriction is half the reason the format exists and if you don't like it then you don't want to play EDH, you just want to play regular magic which you can, so there's no point in killing a funding pillar of EDH just to make it more like regular magic.

>>96961244
Give any target protection from 3 colours

>>96961896
Wrong

>>96959624
Shut up, nigger

They don't make art like this anymore.

finna put this into my rakdos, lord of riots deck. mental retardation or bait? you decide.

Hybrid mana discussion shows which content creator is a shill and which actually understands the basics of EDH

>>96961244
>White
Tap up to three creatures
>Red
3 damage to any target
>Blue
>Untap up to the three creatures
>Green
+3/+3
>Black
-3/-3

>>96962164
its so FUNNY and COOL when the NUMBERS are BIG

Downvote this man!
https://youtu.be/c0eQyza67xY

>>96959442
Wanting near-infinate Mulls is basically saying
>I don't know how to deckbuild but I want to pown with the "awesome" combos I read about someone else discover online.

How long does Untap take to come back when the site shits the bed?

>>96962219
it is a pretty fucking funny

>>96962462
The happy middle ground is 1x partial paris
We had it good back in the day but its true, multiple partials is game breaking

>>96960951
I run it in my Syr Konrad deck. Self mill like crazy, cast excruciator, pop Feldons Cane after it resolves. The demon can be used to set up combos too but I've gotten plenty of mileage from just fucking everyone's library and milling opponents a little further for the kill.

I miss when commander night was this thing I look forward to. Now it's just the thing I consider skipping every week because if I am in a bad mood it's gonna go bad now

I miss playing and having fun

>>96962865
What's putting you in a bad mood? Start with that.

So what the hell does this one mean?

>>96962865
just turn that frown upside down nigga

>>96962912
Socialism is evil, reject it.

>>96962912
Scryfall is happy that the WTC was blown up

>>96962912
Guy Fawkes day probably.

IF YOUR DECK HAS CARDS COSTING MORE THAN 20 BUCKS, FUCK YOU
IF YOUR DECK HAS LAND DESTRUCTION, FUCK YOU
IF YOUR DECK HAS CONTROL+STACKS SYNERGY, FUCK YOU

>>96962912
Is this like a rorschach test?

>>96963004
Get in line faggot

>>96963011
That's the clock tower with the big demon guy at the bottom?

>>96963004
My decks have cards that cost 100+ but could be obtained for like 20 dollars if you wanted to get the non super duper version

>>96963004
I have at least one three digit bucks reserved list card in each one of my decks.

>>96963004
Ummm anon I gave you a free card. The least you can do is obey my rule of law.

>>96961785
>Why can't they
I have heard they COULD. but won't lol. fomo forever baybee

>>96961785
>And ya cabbage guy seems kinda woke lol.
...what?

>>96963032
>can't attack your or permanents you control
This is so shit. There's countless decks that are completely unaffected by this. It should've also said that they "can't be the target of spells or abilities your opponents control" and even then it doesn't protect you from zullaport effects.

>>96963065
Yes anon. The commander doesn't do everything. Thankfully you get two commanders.

so how is the other general reacting to ViVi and Screaming Nemesis getting banned in standard?

>>96963078
You could go check? Never seemed like they even played magic so I wouldn't bother.

>>96963078
>Standard

I only play Pauper outside of EDH so I wouldn't give a shit about that paypig format

>>96963018
Not sure we are on the same page, but it's probably the mill in the swamp area. Don't think it's the astral clocktower where Ebietas would be. Interesting take, I guess.

>>96963082
>You could go check?
give it time and they're gonna show up here to doompost
>>96963088
based

I liked Spider-Man more and I am tired of pretending I didn't.

>people are unironically arguing about brackets, gamechangers, and whether hybrid mana should be allowed
>meanwhile pic related are legal in commander

>>96963004
>NOOO JUST LET ME WIN BY CASTING AN X SPELL WITH THREE TREE CITY!

>>96963166
Hey look a demon

>>96963166
Sol Ring is the only offender

>>96963166
Path doesn't even make the cut in my decks anymore. Ramping your opponent can really fuck you.

How many boxes of avatar collector boosters are you guys gonna buy?

>>96963166
Fuck, I forgot to buy sol rings for two of my decks.

>>96963207
None. I only buy magic the gathering trading cards.

>>96963207
Zero. I just want the sea serpent cards and the land that does +1/+1 counters and the rampant growth knock off.

>>96963207
One maybe two

>>96963220
Approved UB. Honorary magic

>>96963207
I will be saving it for Lorwyn shock lands

>>96963220
KING! WE GOT A KING OVER HERE!

>entire table projects their opinion about single cards on the bracket system
>call them out by telling them that besides game changers no card is forbidden in bracket 1&2
>entire table proceeds to fling shit in my direction
getting really tired of how people constantly try to bully each other into not playing interaction and play their solitaire game. pic very related.

>>96962219
This, but unironically

>>96963300
>bracket users trying to angle shoot
woooooah

>>96963207
Prerelease and that's it, if that.
I don't have a reason to buy the set outside playing limited and my circle doesn't find the limited enviroment to be all that interesting.
I only want maybe 2 or 3 new cards out of the set for my decks so I'm just gonna buy singles.

>>96963207
Got myself a jumpstart box to play with friends/family and 3 commander bundles for sub-msrp which I think I will flip.
my pre-release kits were canceled by the store.

reminder that WOTC had to update their bracket rules specifically because of this combo and others like it being possible in b1/2

>>96963434
How do you figure? This wouldnt have been allowed under either iteration

>>96963434
bracket rules are calvin ball

>>96963448
incorrect there is nothing wrong with these cards in either scenario

>>96963483
Then why were they updated...

>>96963004
I love building decks where no card costs more than $5

>>96963493
to specify win cons on turns per bracket
however this is still only a strongly worded "guideline" and not a rule that decides cards can not be played or used
ramp is allowed in all brackets
treasures exist in all brackets
none are game changers
so whats the problem

>>96963434
>9 card combo
I don't get it

>2029
>all formats except commander are dead
>each precon is now assigned a bracket
>only precon decks are allowed
>modifying precons and playing custom decks is a criminal offense

>>96963574
>modifying precons and playing custom decks is a criminal offense
this but unironically. customniggers on the same level as proxyniggers.
>b-b-but I NEED that one custom card to make the deck work
sure buddy.

>>96963537
You already know and I dont feel like having the same conversation for the 100th time.

>>96963616
point to where its bracket 3 please

Who do I build next? No UB pls

>>96963644
Ozai

>>96963648
No UB pls

>>96963613
By custom decks he means not precon decks you absolute fucking mouthbreather. You need to get a life my word

>>96963658
>>96963644
Maarika, Brutal Gladiator

>>96963662
by custom decks I mean not precon decks too you sub 70 IQ moor. sit down with the other cEDH tards, cheater.

>>96963717
No you absolutely did not. Embarrassing.

>>96963537
It's also about regularity. You aren't bracket 4 or some shit because one out of every 100 games you got a god hand that ended everything quick.

>>96963744
see >>96963616

>>96963781
Damn it's almost like brackets don't work

Most of you fucks need to play bracket 1 because you don't know what bracket 2 is.

>>96963537
>>96963744
>please please please have the same argument with me PLEASE
If you want to larp as someone with brain damage go ahead.

>>96963814
You are talking to two people btw

>>96963818
I did not think otherwise.

I for one am incredibly excited to play her.

>love my semi-obscure-but-not-really commander
>youtubers keep mentioning him
>keep checking his edhrec page to make sure he's sub-500 usage
>he still is but a whole new set came out that pushed a bunch of commanders down by 50 spots or more, so he SHOULD be in the 600s by now
Bros

>>96963858
pure sex

>>96961145
Wild card

>>96963004
I bought my Mox Amber back in 2018 when it was $10, it's not MY fault it's gone up to $60.

>>96963858
She really seems uninteresting

>but...waifu
So?

>>96963828
>>96963814
why are you posting?

>>96963901
I am the god of brackets. What I say is law. Bracket 2 means you cannot win until turn 15 and any combo even an eight card one on turn 30 is a DQ!

>>96961612
100% agree. I remember the shitstorm of a thread eariler this year with people hating it

>>96963870
your hipster license is expiring...

>>96961612
what if I go awooga and start howling in excitement to get free value as a reanimator?

>>96961612
The problem player that invaded my pod and made it so everyone just quit was like this. Someone even tried to have a rationale discussion on it with them and their argument was just "I do not care if it is fair. I do not care if it is weak. It MAKE ME MAD SO YOU CAN'T PLAY IT!"

>>96963942
>exiles your graveyard for 0 mana

>>96963943
>i play this game to have fun
>>well i want to play this deck that you expressly do not find fun
I don't think this is the own you think it is.

>>96963955
>reanimates in response

>>96961612
Playing with a mill deck usually makes you the target of the table instantly specially if you are using Izzet, so most avoid it.

>>96963901
I was hoping that anon had some actual novel insight and was not just hoping to regurgitate the same retarded talking points been peddled since what February? November? Cant even remember now

>>96963959
>One person should matter more than 3
No.

>>96963959
>my fun > your fun

>>96963977
It's one person playing the mill deck, too.

>>96963991
and the other 2 of that four don't see an issue.
If you take issue, fuck off. No one wants you there objectively, you dumb tranny.

>>96963964
You run Twilight's call?

>>96964000
Well apparently it was enough to get everyone to quit. They couldn't just shelf that one deck until someone else was in the pod who didn't mind?

>>96963967
Target my dick. I'm milling your ass and staxing your ass

>>96964009
not really because it can give others value too especially when everyone is milled. single target usually works well enough, like goryo's. they have also been printing many new ones recently that have saved my game more than once

>gruul spellslinger
Hey at least it's a unique design space.

>>96963973
you've been posting here for a year?

how do you feel about the "fix" being only guidelines?
the debate continues!

>>96963644
Purphorus Bronze blooded. Really fun deck to play

>>96963943
Sounds like you need to catch him in the parking lot and smack the crybaby right outta him, ffs

>>96963644
One of the elder dragons, any iteration

>>96964066
>Hey at least it's a unique design space
It's one I wish they'd explore more. Gruul has so many ways to generate tons of mana in and out of the command zone but very few ways to expend it in creative ways besides "make big creature" or "cast big fireball." Side note, I didn't realize earthbend makes the land revive indefinitely, which is really cool but sounds super abusable wow.
>>96963207
0, trynna save money before Christmas so I won't be picking up a bundle either but I will be going to prerelease with frens and will either grab a collector booster or a few regular packs

>>96964066
>infinite constant mists combo machine
yawn

>>96960951
Phenax, god of deception. Just tap and let them try to draw during their next turn. Or wait a round and breach the multiverse.

I'm waiting for commander without UB, anyone else? What should it be called?

>>96964294
>What should it be called?
The kiddy pool

>>96963004
I think my only card that was ever over $20 was Urza on his release
funnily enough I got ozolith when it was $4

>>96964294
Premodern commander, and it already exists.
Have fun, and good luck finding a game!

>>96964066
The hell is this obvious AI slop doing on a card? Dont care about AI ethics or whatever, I'm saying it looks like shit and it's AI slop.

Disallow or Negate

>>96964255
doesn't even work because you have to sacrifice the land before Toph triggers her earthbend

>>96963166
Yes ban signet and sol ring
Path and swords are fine though

>>96964430
Without any other context, disallow.

>>96964432
it works, you are just a midwit

>>96964470
ok nigger then explain how it works step by step

>>96963166
Yes, Sol Ring should be in the format. It's fun, accessible, and adds gameplay variance.

>>96964399
It’s hard to make something that abysmal with ai

>>96959351 (OP)
How do we feel about Flare of Cultivation on an early turn mana dork?

>>96963644
Cabbage Merchant

>>96964294
As Zombie player, why does everybody hate UB?

>>96964611
>why does everybody hate UB?
Because the average UB enjoyer looks and acts like this

>>96961244
Prevent 3 damage

>>96961244
Make 3 1/1 soldiers

>>96961244
Gain 3 life

>>96964255
>Constant mists
Why bother when you can just earthbend Glacial Chasm and sit around being nigh invincible while spamming burn spells?

>>96964626
Nah the average UB enjoyer seems to be
>fat
>bald
>wears a baseball cap (possibly backwards)
>beard to cope with being bald
>room full of Marvel crap
Every fucking time.

>>96964369
PreDH is a thing, also VDH,, but the cut off is scourge

>>96964783
>>96964214
>>96964066
My time has come

>>96964842
But the trigger immediately returns it to the battlefield causing the imprint to lose its connection because the card changed zones.

>>96961244
White would have the Power of Burden, based on the burden of white man. One effect would allow you to give -1/-1 counters on opponent creatures, to 'civilize' them. Other effect would allow you to turn the land opponent controls into farm, producing only white mana.

>>96964294
The way things are going, a new EDH format will be born, with rules separate from WOTC.

>>96964294
>I'll make a new dead format that has no reason to exist
An art based format is retarded

>>96964856
>or is exiled
God damn it

Okay so im new to magic and joined a game last night online and let them know im new to mtg and it was suppose to be a chill game.

Game starts i went first and drew my opening hand no land cards but got ozolith and a bunch of shit that lets me get my counters stacking early. So i decided to keep and gamble for my first draw to be a land.

First draw a creature I laughed and said pass. This guy asked me why. I said i didnt have land on my opening hand and asked i didnt mulligan i said i was betting on drawing a land. I thought it would end there but noo.

This guys turned a supossed bracket 2-3 game into a whole fucking lecture about advancing game states and doing a mulligan if you dont have a land on the opening hand. By turn 5 i left cause it feels like im just ruining the mood by staying since i still didnt get a single land by turn 4.

The other 2 guys didnt have a problem with me doing nothing they were actually laughing at my situation but the other guy just kills the whole mood and since i didnt wanna ruin the mood i left lmao.

Fuck that guy hahahahahah idc if you played mtg longer than im alived or played mtg competitively. Im here to have fun

>>96964890
Very interesting post have you ever considered killing yourself?

>>96964887
We can't have people using StP on your animated land anon! That would be a feelsbad and potentially make Farewell into MLD!
omg whoopsie we accidentally buffed blue removal again by making another effect that protects against all the better types of removal!

>>96964890
Ok but you're actually the asshole for ruining the game for people. It's like someone inviting you to play soccer and grabbing the ball as if it was baskeball; It's funny the first time but you ARE ruining the game for people involved.

>>96964890
Please, kill yourself.

I want to have a hottie in every deck, but I struggle to find any cute girl for Simic deck. Black has Lilianas, Red Chandras, Orzhov has Eriette and Teysa, Gruul has Arlinn and furry ladies, Mardu can choose from the myriad of angels and vampires, Rakdos has Judith... but is there any solid pick from Simic? Neither elves, nor merfolks seem to have particularly attractive ladies on their cards.

>>96964923
>tranime
He is superior to you

>>96964890
>new player
>already owns an ozolith
poser

>>96964890
>ha ha look how retarded I am!

>>96964890
Everyone else is blind with rage so I'll be the one to point out the reddit spacing. Good post.

>>96964890

Reddit copy pasta, you guys really can't spot this from the spacing?

>>96964959
Reddit spacing is a retarded /qa/ meme from 2016 newfriend

>>96964967
>muh reddit spacing
You mean 4chan spacing?

>>96964970

It's a Reddit thread you retarded nigger.

https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1ou54vg/psa_dont_be_a_dick/

>>96964587
Use Flare with Arboreal Grazer for 4 mana T2.
But to answer your question directly I think it's worth popping a cultivate for one mana and a creature.

>the single wpn premium store in my area wont do commander boxing league because they got no FF boxes
>i wont get my waifu promo
only china can save me now.

>>96964933
>but I struggle to find any cute girl for Simic deck
Your Vannifar?

>>96965123
I hate art like this. Close up art looks bad. Like a shitty proxy. Characters should never be up close like this. Images should be full body.

>>96964933
Proxy.

>>96963574
>all formats except commander are dead
Isn't that already the case?

>>96965123
Eat shit and die UBpiggy

>>96965378
Naw, Pauper is alive and well

>>96965123
I dont think this card is gonna go for much on the secondary market. I think you'll be able to buy the single without much of an issue.
Or just ask your store if they're gonna get the promo and you'll buy a box of a different set to get it. But if you're exclusively a UBaby and don't like any other sets then get fucked I guess.

>>96965334
This one should've had the text box moved to the top half of the card and it would've been serviceable.

>>96965389
Spider-man is over, old man. We like UB again. It's the quenchiest addition ever

this is the most flavorful equipment card ever printed and I dont care what you say I will put it into my vampire deck

>>96965752
>dies to destroy

>>96965752
>this is the most flavorful equipment card ever printed
Wrong

>>96965765
the art is pretty sick but its not as cool as elbrus

>>96965761
well you cant play terror on the demon since its black!!!

>graveyard hate
>extra turn spell vs the alpha strike player
>counters the mill deck
>fucks the guy who tutored his wincon to the top of his deck
>20 cents

>>96965911
damn, thats just a better learn from the past and the other blue cardsthat do the same thing

>>96966045
Any cool tech for this guy? I'm trying to build spellslinger in every set of colors and this guy seems like a great bant slinger

>>96966089
Yeah I'd include a lot of these, and cards that care about casting from exile you fucking retard lol

>>96966045
Cantrip is better than a fog in most situations though.

>>96966089
Reading the slop commander explains how to build the slop commander.

>>96966169
>>96966183
I know about adventures and casting from exile triggers, I'm asking about any other stuff thats a little more second-order or janky

>>96966200
You could run blessed respite.

>>96965911
Based. Fog and graveyard hate are super underrated.

>playing battlecruiser wizards
>guy keeps trying to combo off
>exiled 3 different infinite pieces
>keeps bitching about slowing the game down
>he vampiric tutors
>I flash in headgames, give him 9 lands
>he scoops

>>96966183
>slopslkopslopslopslopslopslosplsolsposlspslplslsoslosplsopslops
Mental fucking illness

What constitutes a slop commander?

Whenever ... draw a card?
More than two colors?

>>96966406
>I flash in headgames, give him 9 lands
based anon making sure his friend wasn't mana screwed I kneel

>>96966420
yes
yes
also, UB and every set that's "commander, but with a cowboy/detective/other gay hat"

I love frogs, but I don't care for tribal decks, what frog commander is most fun?

>>96966406
Whats your battlecruiser wizards commander? If you cast head games then its gotta be inalla, right?

>>96966420
from what I see a slop commander is a commander that does anything in the command zone or on the field, is in the top 100 on EDHREC, and is more than one color

>>96966431
>also, UB and every set that's "commander, but with a cowboy/detective/other gay hat"
wrong

>>96966200
In this case it would be third-order, because it is written plain as fucking day what makes this commander tick. I could recommend you fun jank in Bant all the day long, but in regards to your commander there wouldn't really be much.

>>96966452
https://moxfield.com/decks/fDdYAKNEG02izfpJ-M8N_Q

I replaced cyclone summoner and magus of the mirror with borne upon a wind and headgames

>>96966444
pic related was too strong for my friends, but I had fun winning

Man I fucking hate UB

>>96966472
Based. Would have been ok as SL only, but it being in Standard is just disgusting.

Hey /edhg/ do you have a favorite creature to connect face with? (preferably in Mono W because I want my new 8 1/2 Tails build to be good).

>>96966472
This except the approved ones like quenchatar

>>96966472
Man I fucking love UB

>>96966406
>NOOOO I HAVE BEEN INCONVENIENCED! I QUIT
Fucking babies. The only time to do that is if they have truly made it impossible for you to win. And even then I stick in the game in case it would impact the rest of the table.

>>96966444
I would've suggested Clement, the Worrywort but you don't care for tribal but Flubs, the Fool might be good

I FUCKING LOVE UB

>>96966501
With Clement, is it just about flooding your board with Frogs as win con?

This game has turned into dead by daylight in a year. and it sucks.

>>96966444
I've considered Grolnok before. He says frog but he also works with general mill stuff and having an exile based simic deck seems like it could be interesting. Or if you like big value there's always Gitrog.

>>96966517
Horror franchises would be much cooler than the westoid weeb shit and MAHVEL.

>>96966538
We have gotten some. We got Chucky last year and evil dead the year before. Unfortunately they put Chucky and Tiffany on boring ass cards and put Ash on a non-legendary

>>96966511
basically

He seems fun

>>96966563
Right, I guess it could be fun, but I want something more wacky but reasonably strong!

I tried listening to the command zone today
I want to apologize to anyone in this thread that I've called a slop eating pig, I had no idea how much worse it could be.

Why didn't Kamigawa have any sumo cards? Why is this my only choice for a rikishi?!
>6 mana white

>>96966519
I have a deck with him, but my pod very quickly realized that it stops working once the commander is dead, and you mill all your instants and sorceries you could use to protect him.
Still, it's a fun commander.

>>96966680
>it stops working once the commander is dead
This is 90% of commanders

>>96966645
>god forbid I have to run all of that land-to-hand stuff in white and also any of the multiple cards that say i can play more lands or put lands down
>OH NO NOT MANA ROCKS!!!
>AAAAAA EXTRAPLANAR LENS AND SNOW-COVERED PLAINS
>HELP ME NIGGERMAN

>>96966472
baitpost

>>96966692
You're right, but somehow this guy has become kill on sight because nobody wants you to have a huge second hand to use.

>>96966680
Yeah I figured that would be the case. Would probably need a good amount of protection and recursion options like Lier here to help move along. Still, I've been surprised by how much I've enjoyed mono green reanimator and Grolnok seems like he could be that but simic.

>>96966737
>mono green reanimator
I'm always interested in monocolor commanders, who are you using?

>>96966703
Not bait, I actually like magic.

>>96966696
Didn't read

>>96966557
Oh I'm aware, Chucky is even on Kardur which is a badass card. I have liked zero UBs, but plenty of properties that have been used (Street Fighter, League of Legends, less contemporary Marvel comics etc). The only one they might get me to buy is if they do TPB.

The only horror character I want to see on a card

>>96966751
Six. It's been one of the most entertaining decks I've built. Just the sheer options he gives with your grave as a second hand is immensely entertaining. All the little incremental mill cards like Crawling Sensation and Infestation and Hermit Druid setting him up perfectly. Slate Of Ancestry being another piece that works wonders.

>>96966798
Sorry best we can do

Fresh hate from the seethe mines

>t1 ragavan, volcanic island
>t2 rhystic study
>its a 3

Zzz

>>96966828
>These wildly different things are the same btw

>>96966828
Unfunny meme

>>96966843
>wildly different
>>96966844
Badge of honor

>>96966703
>having a problem with quality laundering is bait
Lol ok

>>96966851
>These wildly different things are the same btw
>why?!
>B-BECAUSE I SAID SO!

>>96966869
MTG was always funko...funko-hater bros what do we do?

>>96966860
This but unironically
>>96966869
Yeah that's part of the problem

>>96966885
>waaaaah UB is bad. F-funkos!
Shut up and bow to your king

>>96966885
>fortnite
it's actually weiss schwarz

>>96966885
I think this one's more apt, because Fortnite doesn't rely on everyone using an entire manual of unwritten rules just so the game isn't a fucking miserable experience.

>>96966832
>wins turn 4
>oh wow I didnt know jeskas will sigil of sleep and grapeshot did that!!!

I hate these cunts that run this shit, then grovel and keep apologizing, always using placating cues because they can’t handle confrontation or pushback

>>96966832
>Plays bracket with Rhystic Study legal
>Surprised 3-drop instantly wins the game

>>96966949
>oh no a deck has a magical christmasland combo!

>>96966980
>run best in slot for every card with counterfeits/proxies
>wow this is powerful! I didnt know guys sowwy :(
> deck is bracket 4 minimum
>intentionally plays as a 4 as well as constructed as one
>’well, technically, it’s bracket 3’

>>96966960
>>Plays bracket with Rhystic Study legal
Surely such posts are ironic?
Like this has to be either ragebaiting or ironic criticism of brackets. Surely anon doesnt sincerely find no problem with people intentionally hyper optimizing within brackets (2 and 3 in particular).

>>96967015
>’well, technically, it’s bracket 3’
if it only has 3 GCs max and cannot consistently kill you before turn 6 then yes it's a B3, suck it up faggot
>run best in slot for every card with counterfeits/proxies
this is what you really should be angry about

>>96967025
if people are free to hyper unoptimize (aka intentionally make bad decks)
then people should be free to hyper optimize
the world doesn't revolve around what (You) think

>>96967025
Unironically ask yourself how much difference a turn 2 Rhystic Study makes compared to a turn 3 one when you're playing in the shitfest that is bracket 3.
Most games in bracket 3 are decided by whoever resolves the busted card that generates infinite resources first, and they justify it because their wincon is some "turn creatures sideways" shit.

>>96967053
ALL games are decided by whoever resolves the busted card that generates infinite resources first, duh

>>96967053
>>96967041
>be faggot netdecker
>runs the same pool of best in slot cards
>no creativity or expression
>drone regurgitating the same playlines as if it were modern or legacy
>in a mario party format
>'why do people think I'm a faggot when I tell them my deck is a 3, when actually it wins on turn 4 with best in slot cards designed to win as fast as possible with tutors, dont judge me!!!! I'm sowwwyy!!!!'

we need a containment format for you people

>>96966940
Fortnite also doesn't bother to try and integrate characters in any way aside as skins.

>hehe Goku uses a gun!

>>96967104
you have an Against the Odds edh deck and you are completely in denial about it
for the sake of your mental health never play with randos

>>96967104
If you didn't want people sharting out netdecks then maybe you should play a bracket that bans those cards?

>>96967015
>guys he can get a god hand and win on turn 4 once every 500 matches so this is bracket 9000!
Angle shooting piece of shit golem of a creature.

>>96967113
They started integrating them with loot drops during events centered around their release.
However, unlike in Magic, those items don't appear in the competitive pool nor are they permanent additions to the game.

>>96967121
>me admit to playing in weenie hut jr. bracket 1?! AAAIIIIIIEEEEE

>>96967120
>>96967121
>>96967128
>tropical island
>ragavan
>jeskas will
>force of will
>rhystic study
>mystic tutor
>DUDE ITS A BRACKET 3
>stop trying to angleshoot it's just a god hand!!!!!

>>96967155
Yes all those cards are legal in bracket 3, just not at the same time. If you didn't want to play against them, you were free to ask for a different bracket.
>B-But ebil blue card!
Literally just ask for another bracket.

>>96967053
I usually (fortunately) dont usually have to talk about brackets. My 2 playgroups dont discuss brackets at all really. We just play what we want and we know each other.

I do sometimes play with randoms at the LGS and I have had bracket discussion come up. I dont have enough data points to say what the average bracket experience is.

2 weeks ago I played with very nice guys. We agreed to play "high 3 / low 4" for our last match of the night. The Azorius flicker player won and I thought he played totally fair magic. I was a bit upset but I always am when I play my sweat deck and lose. Its fine, he described his decks power level well before the match. On the flip side, I had a diff player claim his decks were all 2/3 when they were clearly _quite powerful_ and optimized.

I would say Ive played "bracket 3" games which are fair. The issue is that B3 is a rorschach test that means different things to everyone.

>>96967155
then say outright he was playing with 4 GCs you stupid ape

>>96967166
>>96966949
>apologizing and making excuses for this shithead behavior

I can only assume you also engage in this, pussy

>>96967155
>NOOOOOO THIS DOESN'T COUNT AS BRACKET 3 BECAUSE BRACKET 3 IS PRICE BASED
It isn't. Kill yourself you dumb fuck

>>96967167
none of the brackets are rorschach tests
people just refuse to admit they run jank

>>96967181
I just want you to play the proper brackets for the game you want instead of demanding bracket 3 players play your dead by daylight style game. You want bracket 2 maybe even 1. You are in the wrong bracket
(You) are the problem

>>96967181
>Play bracket for retarded shitheads
>Act surprised you got a retarded shithead
This is nobody's fault but yours.

>>96967185
>none of the brackets are rorschach tests
The constant debates here on what constitutes a bracket 2, 3, or 4 deck along with the fact EDHRec has to do polls to decide the bracket of specific combos, indicates it is very much "whatever you think it is."

>>96967181
i'm not making excuses
your opponent is a faggot for sneaking in extra GCs but you are arguably even more of a faggot for allowing yourself to be blatantly taken advantage of

>>96967185
>none of the brackets are rorschach tests
>people just refuse to admit they run jank
You don't actually hold this opinion

How any of you people played before your weenie hut junior brackets is beyond me.

Why do people bitch about price? Just proxy or use counterfeits. EDH is the casual "who the fuck cares" format anyway.

>>96967202
>I take the constant debates of edgy casuals here seriously
>I also take a community poll of a website full of casuals seriously
this is your fatal mistake
>>96967209
uh oh melty

>>96967230
UW can't make something this cute

>>96967194
>>96967193
>>96967205
>>96967211
You people are legitimately autistic. In the last year, all of these new players, assuming you too, run nothing but highest powered netdecks outside of cedh, then ‘oh its a 7’ ‘oh its a 3’. The entire reason the bracket system was made was to contain you annoying cunts, commander is literally a chill format. Its a 4 person battle royale. If you want to play competitively, say it like a man. It’s a non-competitive format, where people express their intention to play slower. You people are fucking annoying, especially because you have no spine and need to find some level of gratification playing unevenly, when you would get shitstomped if everyone else pulled out their 4s

>>96967215
>ummm it's all jokes
Kill yourself

>>96967239
you are correct that brackets are containment (they're formats in practice)
the problem is that too many refuse to accept they belong in bracket 1

>>96967214
This thread cares immensely if you use proxies.

>>96967255
>i can't argue against your logic
>now i'm mad
medicate now

>play commander with randos
>unironic its a 3/4
Wew
Wotc controlled edh is going to be a thing to behold. Cant wait till they try to reinvent the wheel with every aspect of this format.

>>96967239
>"Wah too many people say they're 7s"
>Okay, they made a system where all those people self-report by filtering into one label
>"B-But I can't play with people using that label!"

>>96967274
>he doesn't have a sweat deck just in case
>he still went out in the wild to play with randos regardless
another fool has entered the thread

>>96967261
There's nothing wrong with proxies, I never buy cards until I've tested them in my decks.

>>96967295
>There's nothing wrong with proxies, I never buy cards until I've tested them in my decks.
this is the right mindset
the problem lies with poorfags proxying true duals, as if they will ever be rich enough to buy them, nevermind their lack of restraint
poorfags are disgusting and must be gatekept

Mono red stax. Can it be done?

>>96967289
The power level is the problem here autismo
Its that brackets are a change that solved zero problems
Its a criticism of wotc, who have repeatedly proven to be poor stewards of their formats.

>>96967323
the problem is you don't run anything else but jank, expect other people to only run jank with you, and you are completely in denial about your retardation
cry more and never leave your basement, thank god randos don't care what you think

>>96967323
Personally, I dont any more respect for tryhards going out and spending on duals than poorfags proxying them
The problem isnt necessarily the proxying its the impetus that you NEED the best in slot while playing a casual format
You just know players like that are going to be insufferable
That being said I did eventually buy a savannah for my selvala deck after playing it for 6 years. It was a satisfying capstone for my pet deck.

>>96966200
When you cast an adventure with rebound next turn you can cast the permanent side.

>>96967388
>>96967311
Meant for

>>96967316
MonoR has lots of options for stax. Most of them are "pain stax" that damage people for trying to play the game, the rest is what you may call "true stax". I have a Torbran deck that makes people take 3 damage minimum for doing damn near anything if they can't remove my bullshit.

>>96967388
>You just know players like that are going to be insufferable
those are legacy players that shifted to commander because who plays x4 brainstorm the format anymore lol

>>96966939
>>96966940
It's slop by any other name

>>96967347
What about my original post made you think I was out matched?
Im merely pointing out that wotc didnt do their due diligence for the 75%/its a 7/8 problem.
Our games went perfectly fine despite brackets being completely worthless.

>>96967388
>i don't like tryhards that buy duals
>but me buying duals is ok because i'm a casual
you're no different btw
just take the W in buying real duals and be done with it

>>96967316
>bloodmoon
>bloodmoon but a creature
>bloodmoon but it costs 9 mana creature
>all of the best MLD
>all of the best artifact hate to kill mana rocks
It's a narrow kind of stax that'll make you arch enemy but it can be done

>>96967428
>it was a fair match guys
>but i'm still mad because people play all the staples in b3
>nevermind that b3 is defined by staples
>aaaaiiiiieeeee take me seriously!
lol

>>96967121
>If you didn't want people sharting out netdecks then maybe you should play a bracket that bans those cards?
Which bracket would that be?

>>96967407
Tbh I like legacy bros
Im more referring to commander babies who go out and feel like they NEED duals. It comes from a misunderstanding of the format, usually.
A fool and his money are easily parted and I dont like playing with fools.

>>96967460
I didnt say any of that, schizo-kun.

>>96967465
reminder that if you play etali fairly it takes 9+ turns for it to kill everyone
>nobody i play with plays etali fairly
that means you're not in bracket 1

>>96967489
that's ok, you weren't saying anything meaningful to begin with

>>96967500
>reminder that if you play etali fairly it takes 9+ turns for it to kill everyone

I like Oloro

>>96967511
>oh no etali stole my rhystic
>this means i'm playing fair and the etali player isn't

>>96967404
>>96967316

Forgot to attach list. Some of my favorite red cards are on here.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/torbran-down-the-house/?cb=1762910905

Teysa looks like a hooker

>>96967211
Friend pod
In hindsight I would play 3, table master played 4, and our two others played 2 with us usually dogpiling the 4

Is there a better card?

>>96967576
Genuine question, why do you pedos always feel the need to announce your attraction to cartoon children?

>>96967602
NTA but the other anon is thanking you for the (You)

>>96966851
>he's still posting this image
>he STILL doesn't understand mechanical uniqueness is a major defining factor

>>96967602
I'm glad the bait still works

>>96967611
>he still thinks playing with his funkos makes a difference to what they are

>>96967508
How would you know? You are functionally illiterate lol.

>>96967239
>You people are legitimately autistic. In the last year, all of these new players, assuming you too, run nothing but highest powered netdecks outside of cedh, then ‘oh its a 7’ ‘oh its a 3’. The entire reason the bracket system was made was to contain you annoying cunts, commander is literally a chill format. Its a 4 person battle royale. If you want to play competitively, say it like a man. It’s a non-competitive format, where people express their intention to play slower. You people are fucking annoying, especially because you have no spine and need to find some level of gratification playing unevenly, when you would get shitstomped if everyone else pulled out their 4s
FUCKING
BASED

You need to think of the format from the ground up, not the top down.

>>96967696
what do you mean how would i know?
you don't know anything kekw

>>96967716
Proving my point, over and over again.
Sad.

>>96967700
>If you want to play competitively, say it like a man
I'm man enough to say that i play your noncompetitive children's card game seriously, that there are more people who think just like me, and there's nothing you can do about it

>>96967731
what's sad is you crying over brackets HAHA

>>96967739
>I'm man enough to say that i play your noncompetitive children's card game seriously,
Sure. You assure everyone at the table that your Etali list is actually a 3, smugly, before pubstomping casuals.
>that there are more people who think just like me, and there's nothing you can do about it
I can do something about it. I can run my Izzet Gamechanger sloppa.

I just think it's neat!

Going to EDH night for the second time in 10 years at my LGS. I am running a Blue Braids Sea Monster deck. I was thinking of putting a Kozilek butcher of truth in the deck in lieu of Elixir of Immortality. I am wondering if that would put a big target on my back deck wise. This deck was a budget deck from 10 years ago that I do enjoy playing, but I had a pretty slow game with it and had to move some stuff around.

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/braids-sea-monster-slam-jam/

The only reason I'm playing mtg at all is because of the New Phyrexia promotional material
If I wanted to play a lotr or marvel card game, I'd play the ffg LCGs.
Both of which are well made, lotr more so than marvel champions but whatever.

>>96967750
huh an actual level headed response in /edhg/
what are the odds

>>96967556
Have you considered shelling out for Snow covered mountains?
I see that you are running an Extraplanar Lens.
As a fellow Lens Enjoyer it is worth shelling out.

>>96967576
Not really. This bitch is easily the best generic firebender

>>96967748
>still thinks I'm complaining about brackets
F U N C T I O N A L L Y
I L L I T E R A T E

I want to build a conceivably B3 deck (that's what most people in my area play at) that's incredibly mean. Something to frustrate others without just stomping. Being unpleasant to play against is more important than winning.
Any suggestions?

>>96967758
>I'm wondering if putting kozilek 1.0 would put a big target on my bracket 1 deck in an LGS full of randos that i haven't been at in 10 years
that's the least of your worries

>>96967805
Teysa, Orzhov Scion is pretty fun if you want to make an oppressive stax deck.

>>96967805
just show up. you are annoying as you are without a deck.

>>96967801
wotc controlled edh IS brackets you idiot
otherwise you wouldn't be a dumbass and just say powercreep/FIRE design/UB
R
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>>96967814
I was thinking more mono-black. I like theft in theory, but in practice it tends to come online so slow that everyone just shoots it down first.

>>96967818
Not as annoying as other commander night attendees, sadly.

>>96967806
sooo, just keep Elixir of immortality and call the deck finished?

>>96967836
you're finished either way is what i'm saying
>so yeah go for it give back to your local community lol
>i'll expect your rant in a few days

love this bitch like u wouldnt believe

I've got an 8 hour ban in Marvel Rivals, I'm baking new.

>>96967624
>he's STILL coping
Dude just do a better meme, a mechanically unique card is not like another identical funko.

Is Merieke Ri Berit any good or is she just a meme since Post Malone played her?

>>96967866
>>96967866
>>96967866
I'ts up btw

>>96967822
I'm doing mono block, Seizan. Building it right now, shitposting on the 'chan. Give them cards, they have to discard, then you can steal shit out of their graveyard.

>>96967274
Say what you will about wotc, I genuinely think edh is in a great place right now. The only thing on the horizon that gives me pause is the inevitable hybrid change. Clearly this is a knock-on effect from UB and that kinda sucks.