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>>96964293


Thread question:
What leftover models do you think other factions like Orks and Chaos will get before 11e?

I dont care for marines but its so funny how fucking forced they're making titus be the next mascot. Rip my boy ventrus or whatever the dude who saw perty is called.

>What leftover models do you think other factions like Orks and Chaos will get before 11e?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA
YOU WILL GET NOTHING AND YOU WILL BE HAPPY
BUY MORE MARINES

>>96967354
It's the smart thing to do and honestly I'm surprised it took GW this long to finally understand that they should be working towards tying in the other games that get people into 40k proper. They should have been doing this decades ago with Dawn of War.

40k needs to be more like 30k.

>>96967379
If they give us an official Blood Raven squad with the DoW launch I'll lose my shit.

>Cadia and Terra are both Chaos targets, and Cadia has fallen to Chaos
>Armageddon is an Ork target
>Mars is a Necron target
>Tyrannids, Drukhari, Eldar, Tau, and Votann have no notable targets of importance

>>96967386
It would be nice if they gave back Initiative.

>>96967386
Ew. No. I bet you think blast templates are good too.

>>96967379
It would be the smart thing to do if Titus had any kind of personality. Titus "fans" like Titus because that's what the marine they played as was called in the bad gears of war clone that failed over a decade ago

>>96967413
Yes, they are. They are fun and evocative.

>>96967386
Or you could just go play 30k

>>96967417
Can you actually be a GoW clone with no cover system?

>>96967423
Yeah go play with your fucking taint then for an evocative experience, it’ll give you all the options 40k lacks.

>"of all my brothers, why you?"
>"you were stronger than this!"

>>96967411
fights normal // fights first // fights last is a better system, they just need to use it more appropriately. Power fists//Thunderhammers should be fights last per model.

I'd be happy with WS returning

>>96967439
I didn't say it was a good clone

>>96967417
I think there's more importance to the recent game being a success, especially since it came out right around the time that 40k was (somewhat inexplicably) becoming more popular and mainstream.

>>96967430
>Nooooooooooo 40k rules need to keep sucking if you don't like shit you MUST go play another game, nevermind those rules are how 40k used to be

>Vigilus in need of aid, Armageddon under attack again, and Terra under direct threat for the first time
>Guilliman: tHe pRioRitY haS tO Be rEstORiNg uLtrAmAR!

>>96967453
Like I said, play with your taint if this is how you’re gonna be

>>96967450
I'm saying it can hardly be called a clone if it's not trying to copy the single defining gameplay feature GoW has. It's just a third person shooter like many existed before and after GoW.

>>96967423
so true bro, btw you didnt hit 5 of my dudes you hit 2, here you wanna check it? Are you blind bro? Nah you always do this yOU HIT TWO GU- TAKE THOSE DICE BACK IT WAS TWO GUYS

>>96967446
Weapon Profile To Hit is just renamed WS. We already have Fights First /Normal but as a compromise Fights First should be way more common.

>>96967451
Titus became even less of a character in the new one with a worse voice actor who sounds bored the entire time, and the game itself didn't improve in any meaningful way, at best it attracted another small secondary following that still won't engage with the ip in any meaningful way

>>96967354
SM2 sold millions of copies, they had to go with Titus

>>96967472
Old WS had you measure cock sizes with the enemy, if your WS was lower it was harder to hit them. It is not the same

>>96967471
You still have people argue over the rules nowadays just as bitterly as they argued over blast templates.

>>96967499
yeah let's not give them more reasons to do so

>>96967488
And was immediately forgotten by almost everyone that played it

>>96967491
A pee pee measuring contest that should have been rolled into a modern representation of Initiative.

>>96967504
They have just as many reasons regardless of what rules are pruned.

Melee T'au!

>>96967510
compare this to other 40k games

The games bad because it has marines in it at the end of the day

>>96967510
Does this include console players? I like SM2, its mindless fun. If it gets some people to buy minis who cares?

>>96967518
Where 500 people are dumb enough to buy them before realizing the game is a cashgrab by the devs that instantly abandon it after getting their GW money

>>96967471
I just don't play with annoying idiots, no reason to remove a fun mechanic. 30k still uses templates just fine.

>>96967516
They couldn't make melee Tau because that would go too hard and hurt their space marine sales which they already dedicated 80% of their production too

>>96967510
>all time peak 190,000
Really? It felt bigger than that.
Also I still play it from time to time when I just wanna smash stuff

>>96967513
Old 40k is too much of a high trust system to be a good game. It's written expecting your opponent to not be a bastard, that's great if you only play with friends or people who happen to not be a bastard.

If I have to play with bastards, which is gonna happen more often than with friends if I dont have a cult or closed loop friend circle, I want a system where that bastard cant make my experience more painful than it needs to be. Templates are not bastard safe.

>>96967516
>>96967542

>>96967528
That makes me hungry

>>96967552
While I agree, I think it's a shame that it appears like the game has to kowtow to a bunch of bastards. The problem is that they're still bastards even in the new system and they still game the system (Just look at the FAQ for the current edition). Now the game suffers and you're still probably stuck playing with bastards which is painful regardless.

>>96967518
This is the only other "big" 40k game. Warhammer games in general are at best mediocre, and usually are genuinely bad. The majority of their players are warhammer pigs that will buy literally anything with the warhammer logo on it

>>96967542
Agreed. Melee battlesuits would be too cool and make marine players upset.
Fortunately the imperium has battlesuits that we can purchase instead! Thanks GW!

>>96967549
that's only on steam, was also on EGS and every console

>>96967575
Well now my feelings are hurt.

>>96967586
Shouldn't the grey knight and sisters be wearing helmets? Seems like a bad idea to take a big fuckoff mechasuit, and leave your head exposed right at center mass.

>>96967530
>the game is a cashgrab by the devs that instantly abandon it after getting their GW money
Even vermintide/darktide which are always talked about as being amazing get one tiny overpriced dlc once every other year. Vermintide is the worst since most of theirs are just shit they already made from the first game that they charge you again for in the second

>>96967471
I'm a newfag by grog standards (started in 9E) but all the bad experiences Ive had didn't come from rules conflicts but from manchildren mad when their dice rolls are bad. Though there was one time when a guy was just wrong about Big Guns Never Tire and was convinced that he could fire his tanks main battle canon into my tanks when it was in melee with some arcoflags. He still lost even with it, I just didn't have the energy to argue with him after a point. Avoided playing with him after that and he stopped asking for games in our LGS discord eventually. That was one experience out of dozens of games though.

>>96967586
FE just needs melee bonuses for their stuff otherwise it's filling a niche that's not supposed to be filled

>>96967516
i'd swear an older edition had an upgrade for crisis suits that let them use their meltas as a sort of lightsaber in melee

>>96967528
This what they do with the primaris lieutenants that don't meet their standards

>>96967516
I'm not even a Tau player but I felt for you guys when GW put out that "close-range fighters" article showing off new minis last week and the two Tau suits had guns and not based melee weapons.

>>96967516
melee tau doesnt work, you have kroot on foot or mechsuits
those blue chinks would get minced up by even gretchens

>>96967586
grey knight one and battle sister ones are stupid

>>96967575
Darktide isn't trying to maintain 100k players at all times though, and the devs have said they are more than happy for the player base to drop off between big releases. And they are based for that.

>>96967461
>terra under direct threat for the first time
Remember when orks carved a giant ork smiley face into Luna?

>>96967656
They did?

>>96967461
The priority for Captain Titus and his company*
The priority for everyone else is Terra/Vigilus/Armageddon/etc.

>ATTENTION IMPERIAL GUARDSMEN: On November 12th, a most auspicious day, pious Sisters from the ADEPTA SORORITAS will be conducting the annual PENIS INSPECTION CEREMONY at oh six hundred hours. Attendance is MANDATORY.
>Some may be upset that the Ultramarines will not be inspecting this year, but be forewarned that the Sisters are equally adroit at handling MAN MEAT and will broker absolutely no HERETICAL MISHAPS during the process. Anyone who does not wash will be shot.
>Any man who suffers an ADEPTUS ERECTICUS incident, even the slightest involuntarily twitch, will be shot.
>Those found to have a flaccid length of less than four inches will be shot. But those with a flaccid length of six inches or more will be invited for an additional round of tests in the Confessionals at oh eight hundred hours.
>Give praise to the Emperor, but your manhood belongs to the Sisters!

Post what you're working on

10th edition torrent when?

>>96967512
At least having a big dick would finally be good for something, I guess

>>96967683
Its all on scribd

>>96967516
>gets bodied by some Untermensch penal legionnaire armed with nothing but a bayonet and a few packs of lho-sticks shoved up his prison pocket

>>96967672
Umironically more convincing "the imperium are le evil fascists" lore than anything I've seen published by james

>>96967670
Armageddon is Ullanor, and 9k years ago the orks perfected gravity technology and turned the Planet into a super gravitic engine so it could be used as a mobile superfortress. If the orks ever capture the planet they would enter a new golden age for ork technology, potentially becoming unstoppable.

So of course GW will never allow Armageddon to fall.

>>96967672
small pps are cute, especially if they are pale and squishy and circumsized and maybe a little leaky.

>>96967636
Never happened. Nice head cannon though.

>>96967672
do women actually hate growers?

>>96967386
Agreed.
I'm the guy who has been bitching about wanting 30k automata rules for 40k for the last ten years.

>>96967702
Link brother, or what to search.

>>96967702
scribd is malware nigger

>>96967413
You think ‘fights first’ is any better, big-brain?

Do you like the direction 40k’s aesthetic is going?

>>96967645
a melta gun might as well be a melee weapon

>>96967648
Based for releasing an uninteresting game that's been made a million times already, including themselves, with a small amount of content that is only supplemented with even smaller content for an unfair price over large periods of time

>>96967636
There's this as an enhancement in the 10th edition Experimental Prototype Cadre. Maybe there will be a model in the future with actual laser swords.

>>96967510
>American wants to make point
>HEY FATASS BUY OUR BURGERS WHILE YOU’RE AT IT
The death of Net Neutrality has been a disaster for the human race.

>>96967636
Fusion blades it was a Farsight Enclave thing

>>96967760
>Marines across all parts of 40k have mostly only gotten worse designs
>New ork heads look really bad
Those are the only big standouts visually to me

>>96967773
>that's been made a million times already
it hasn't, vermintide was noteworthy and exploded in popularity because nobody had done a L4D clone yet and valve doesn't make games anymore, including all three tide games there are only like 10 L4Dlikes on the market

>>96967681
I would but you guys hate Trench Crusade

>>96967773
what kind of game do you wnat?

>>96967379
It's pretty baffling that a boring piece of shit like titus got two models and a boardgame and GW never made minis for the Vermintide characters or a boardgame when they are ACTUAL characters that people like and want minis of

>>96967773
name 10 games like darktide

>>96967681
Assembled all this shit need to do a bunch of gap filling now and wait for a day warm enough to prime

>>96967825
I love the nurgle strider things. People always make fun of them but I think they are kino.

>>96967825
>plague hulk
>toads
>blight
Is that from Chang? is it sturdy material?

>>96967825
How well does sunscreen work as lube?

>>96967743
Women hate all men, it's just a matter of which excuse they're using today

>>96967842
The toads are printed, the rest of the resin stuff is from Z. Everything was fine but the plague hulk was hot garbage. The top half with the guy has shrunk so much from recasting that it doesn’t match up with the defiler parts that make up the bottom half. Also massive mold slips.

The cast for Corbax is also crispy ass. Typical chinashit quality

>>96967948
Not true, my mom loves me.

>>96967405
Macragge is a Tau target

>>96967953
Maccrage is not of particular importance to the Imperium.

>>96967810
True, U5 are long over-due of any form of actual promotional merch. Be it Minis or figures. Instead they went all in on Darktide merchandising with action figures, expecting it to be the next big thing just for the game to flop.
I guess luckily for GW, Space Marine 2 ended up being as popular as they wished.
Ah well, maybe the U5 will get what they deserve if Games Workshop finally bites the bullet and ports them to AoS as an Underworlds set or something.

>>96967681
I swear to god the colour difference isn’t as sharp in person. I don’t understand what’s going on with my camera or if my eyes are just shit.

>>96967950
glad Z is still able to deliver. was worried about him. fuck GW moving on our based chinesium friends.

>>96967405
Tyrannids target is anything with a pulse

>>96968023
They're just like me fr.

>>96967951
You'd be in the minority then

>>96967948
shit i forgot about that

>>96967681
Highlighting almost finished

>>96968067
I’m incredibly happy to see paint on those guys finally.

>>96968067
nice fur

>>96968037
I'm sure your mother loves you too

>>96967969
>ports them to AoS
Fuck that absolutely not, bringing fantasy shit into AoS just ruins fantasy and AoS. Its bad enough festus is back, for some fucking reason, instead of just giving us something new

>>96968023
Yeah but there's nothing the tyrannids are specifically targeting that the Imperium values too much. If the Tyranids ate Kadaku the Imperium isn't going to care all that much.

>>96968087
Especially with old world out now there's no reason for it, it's not like GW is actually doing anything with the game technically being in the past anyway just rerelease and remake all those characters for it

Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.

>>96967681
Spent the last day or so stripping paint from that Eldar lot I got. Did all the infantry/characters last night and the Tanks/Wraithlord today. Also tried to salvage as many of the Dire Avengers as I could (Most of them are missing parts) but could only complete one Exarch minus the flags and 4 standard dues since the rest are missing the buttcapes.

The real gem comes from the metal models, including a squad of Rangers (One missing a gun barrel), an Autarch, some old Gunner dudes (Three in the same pose), and a Rogue Trader Warlock. I went and printed up some 28mm slotta bases for them, probably gonna use one of the triplet gunners on the base of the Revenant Titan along with the lone Guardian Defender that was included in the lot for decoration.

>>96968096
They were targeting Baal and Macragge a while back, but those events are basically finished.

>>96968118
Baal and Maccrage aren't really that important to the Imperium either.

>>96968114
they're gonna cover up even more skin and make them less sexy

>>96967562
If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding!

>>96968114
Drukhari defresh is coming. I can feel it

Thanks for the gracious gift James

>>96967405
Eldar pretend Necrons are their target but they haven't had any sort of real rivalry in years. Necrons casually obliterate Eldar whenever they meet.

I'll probably take a better picture tomorrow, but in case I die and go to hell, here's my collage entry

>>96967950
I might pick up some etsy printed toads to use as beasts, a shame to hear about the hulk, I really liked that FW design, I hope we get a soul grinder refresh soon

>>96968076
She thinks she does, but she doesn't

>>96968071
Cheers but these aren't any of the older kitbashes I've done, I did this up last month, all my BGV and terminators are still languishing in my backlog lmao
>>96968074
Thanks anon!

>>96968096
>the Imperium won’t care if the Tyranids consume a planet, growing their fleet and strength to threaten other planets
Jesas anon do you think at all? Even if Kadaku is ultimately expendable, that’s exactly where you want to fight the Tyranids because you can pull out all the Exterminatus measures without pissing anyone off.

>>96968255
Eh, every faction gets stronger when they take a planet, tyranids aren't unique in that regardd.

>>96968265
>every faction gets stronger when they take a planet
Except Eldar.

>>96968322
Sure they do. They need to mine all those raw materials to make Wraithbone.

>>96968333
that's what the Squats...Votann are for

Started Orks and tried to do checkerboards

>>96967338 (OP)
FRENSHIP MATTERS!

Im new. Should I collect Nids or Necrons?
I want a faceless, evil faction that gets beaten down by the good guys. Genuinely cannot explain it but I really like the idea of letting other peoples armies shine.
I was born to be a Season One Villain.

>>96968449
bugs

>>96968125
Isn't Macragge the capital of Ultramar? Seems like it'd be kinda important

>>96968449
Necrons
You'll be the weekly villain never actually dies, but has to help against the actually world ending villain that is Nids

>>96968449
Nids are probably your best bet right now just in terms of money value. You can probably still find nid halves of the Leviathan box for a decent discount and they're also getting a Christmas box this year. That being said, Necrons are a lot easier for a new hobbyist to paint and while you likely won't get AS good a discount as Nids right now, you'll still be able to get find some good deals on them if you go looking.

>>96967510
I can't believe SM2 was released almost 15 months ago what the fuck.

>>96968471
>Seems like it'd be kinda important
It's really not.

Cadia was the only thing preventing the eye of terror from becoming the great rift.

Armageddon is the only thing standing between Orks and invading Terra.

Mars contains the Void Dragon.

Terra itself has the Golden Throne.

Vigilus is the only way to get from one side of the Imperium to the other now that the great rift is a thing.

But Macragge? There's nothing particularly important about it. Guilliman likes it for sentimentality reasons, but if Macragge fell, the Imperium would scarcely notice.

>>96968512
>ten space marine chapter homeworlds, including a fucking first founding one
>several huge forge worlds
>a shitton of well-managed industrial and mining worlds
Yeah, imperium will barely notice losing those, uh-huh.

>>96968532
First off, I said Macragge, not all of Ultramar.

But also there's thousands of forge worlds. The Imperium isn't gonna notice the disappearance of a few.

>>96968512
>>96968537
>t. based Ultra hater

>>96968569
I don't hate the Ultramarines desu, but like...their actual planets? Not important. If Macragge fell, the Ultramarines could recruit from a new planet. There's nothing critically important about Ultramar itself.

If Armageddon falls, it's an "OH SHIT PROTECT TERRA" moment. If Mars or Terra falls, everyone is fucked. If Vigilus falls, half the Imperium is fucked. When Cadia fell, shit got fucked beyond belief.

But Ultramar? If Ultramar fell, the Imperium would be slightly worse off having lost .05% of its planets. But only slightly.

500 worlds has got me nervous because what if they refresh the chimera chasis and make it not cancer to build

>>96968449
Nids, check out maleceptors and exocrins they're really cool

>>96967586
I hate how they always push the gay knight baby carrier in the rules despite it being the ugliest thing ever so I have to look at it whenever I'm up against a gay knight playing even somewhat meta

>>96968589
Ultramar is backup Terra. The realm is important for being the backup, well at least before it got half eaten.

>>96968620
There is no 'backup terra', if Terra gets eaten the astronomicon goes out, and quite possibly another Chaos God is born with everything irrevocably completely 100% fucked beyond repair.

>>96968537
nta but they will definitely notice a forge world under threat, they and the Mechanicus will fight tooth and nail to keep one and it gains the attention of the High Lords directly. Despite what the memes say the Imperium doesn't casually exterminatus planets. I think you're looking at planets like they can only have one trait and not the administrative impact losing a capital causes, that'd be like a country's capital along with all of its government staff getting annihilated at a stroke.

Let's consider a more mundane example like an agri-world. Whatever, who cares. It gets vore'd by Tyranids. That planet might just be one of many but it's still a significant percentage of the food production for a sector. This causes a shortage in a system that barely breaks even when times are good, and times are never good. The lower supply causes a hike in price and forces densely populated planets to ration their supply. The economic shock and rationing breeds unrest, and impacts production efficiency as more resources must be allocated to over-working the remaining agri-worlds. A barely stable sector is now very unstable, an ideal environment for cults and separatists to gain power. Neighboring sectors do what they can but they have little to spare lest they risk their own. More security is forced inward, allowing raiders and invaders more chances to slip in. The magnitude of resources the Imperium must spend just to maintain order and solve the food supply shortage is immense, has to come from somewhere, and all of it takes time. Maybe worlds rebel, maybe the Tithe fails to yield adequate numbers due to malnutrition and leaves the sector even more vulnerable. That's how you get shit like the Sabbat Worlds. For want of a horseshoe.

The Imperium treats its worlds like thousands of pawns on a chessboard because it has to, but that doesn't mean it does so flippantly. For the record I'm a Chaos enjoyer, Death to the False Emperor, etc.

>>96968643
I don't know about that, I mean, if the Tau took a forge world they can't be that important to the Imperium.

>>96968591
The Chimera chassis is fine to assemble though? The only vehicle that desperately needs a modern update is the Land Raider, the gaps/seams on that thing are disgusting.
>Buy the Horus Heresy one!
Nah, it's too small.

>>96968656
Just because they get lost doesn't mean the Imperium doesn't care. Sometimes you have to eat an L no matter how bitter it is because you're just shit outa luck.

>>96968589
>Imperium Stronghold on the Eastern Fringe of the galaxy loses their capital planet
>not a big deal
I feel like this is rage bait

In an autism beam clash between the most autistic warhammer fan and the most autistic star wars fan who gets disintegrated?

>>96968756
It depends. Are we talking modern consoomer autism (i.e. Femstodes fan vs Disney Star Wars fan) or are we talking venerable neckbeardnought ancient autism (i.e. hates femstodes vs old school SW fan)

>>96968756
I think the Star Wars autism takes this one because there's isn't a whole lot of Glup Shittos in 40k that have eighty thousand word wiki articles, especially when you consider Legends.

>>96968658
I just think it (and the Leman Russ) could have a QoL sprue redoing. Like having better connections between the treads and the center. I think the Russ is the one I'm really bitching about, between the 40k one and the HH one, I'd rather build four HH ones than one 40k one but then it would clash with my army due to the solar auxilia symbols.

>>96968087
Festus was a thing hinted in Aos for a while, with explicit hinting since rotmire creed was released. Same could be true for valkia. Chaos was a fundamental core of the setting so they tried embedding some old stuff into it from the get go while doing new things, this was all naturally done before old world was a thought, but either way the direction that both tow and Aos are going it wouldn’t hurt one or the other if Aos took some of the more high fantasy stuff from fb.

Has there been a job that Custodes haven't failed at?
These are the ones that come to mind
>fail keeping an eye on Lorgar which led to him falling to chaos
>fail at capturing and bring back Magnus and letting Russ just go and kill him
>fail at being the Emperor's body guards and letting Horus kill him
>fail at keeping Terra xenos free by letting a God damn GSC take root

>>96967405
>>96968150
Alaitoc is doing stuff in the Pariah Nexus

>>96968667
The thing is, Ultramar isn't close to anything important. It's not protecting Vigilus, or Terra, or even Armageddon. It's just kind of out there by itself.

>>96968814
It's the recruiting grounds for the best space marine chapter.

>>96968792
>I'd rather build four HH ones than one 40k one but then it would clash with my army due to the solar auxilia symbols.
Then just don't use the Solar Auxilia symbols?

ive noticed that oil washes have been getting spammed quite a bit on social media lately, but the question is do you think they look good? seems like more effort desu; gloss varnish, and then wiping most of it off raised areas with a sponge or something similar

>>96968827
They look just as good/better than acrylic washes with the benefit of being able to easily clean up mistakes

>>96968756
star wars for sure

>>96968818
Yes but they can use any planet for that. Ultramar itself is of little importance even if the Space Marines that recruit from it are valuable.

>>96968756
I dunno but I hate them both.I think a warhammer "fan" will make it their identity which is worse. Then again I have not interacted with star wars fans past 2016.

>>96968827
I like oils. They're great to work with because nothing you do has to be permanent. That said, they add a bunch of steps to the process that otherwise wouldn't be necessary

>>96968818
We're not talking about Baal though?

>>96968827
It depends, just like any other painting technique. Oil washes and oil-based paints over acrylic for shading and weathering have been used in regular scale modeling for a long time. I think its just that most people are always trying to find The One Technique that will magically speed up their painting tenfold, so if you focus on that kind of thing if you're a slop dispenser you'll get more engagement.

>>96968814
>The border of the Imperium on the Eastern Fringe isn’t important
I feel like you’re being willfully obtuse here

>>96968512
Every time I see a description of Macragge, it's the author jerking Gillymun off for being the best and most noble and most moral administrator the Imperium has ever seen, as if nobody could possibly manage planetary administration until a fucking Primarch came along.

>>96968827
reductive enamel washes can achieve effects that are very difficult to do with acrylics and are imo worth the extra effort. i think they look pretty good but a lotta people misuse them by just dumping streaking grime over a model

>>96968868
That's precisely WHY it's not important. Fringe worlds generally aren't that critical. It's why the Tau were able to grow from 1 planet to 300 planets without the Imperium really noticing or caring.

I miss Captain Tycho

>>96968756
ENTER

>>96968883
Star Trek autism has cooled down significantly.

>>96968883
I don't think Trek autists can power up to the same level as SW autists, they are constrained by their setting as much as they are empowered by it. Star Trek has a rigidity to it that SW lacks, SW's only rules are that the Force is magic and everything else is the whim of the writer.

>>96968512
we need a subfaction for ultramar's 40k auxila
no proxying 30k isn't enough

>>96968883
Nobody has cared about star trek in almost 20 years

>>96968883
trekies haven't been bad in a long time
i think after 20 years of subpar content they've really been fatigued
star wars fanboys are getting there

Every time I play a game of 10th Im bored by the bland rules. Any hopes this will change with 11th?

>>96968895
We do have a subfaction for Ultramar's Auxilia, they're called THE IMPERIAL GUARD

>>96968892
Trek autism used to be strong in the 60's, in fact it was one of the original tism fandoms alongside LotR. It's just when your heyday is the very first slash fics in the 70's and various conventions thereafter, it's nothing compared to the autism of prequel apologist Star Wars fans or Sequel trilogy essay writers.

>>96968905
>Imperial Guard will be replaced with Ultramar space roman legions and Dark Imperium space Bretonnia led by the Lion

>>96968636
Nah, the Tau would still win if Terra is gone. Chaos is a joke.

>>96968906
Agreed. It was not the first, but it is a powerful force that set the stage for all that followed. To use the standard scale of power level measuring, I recon it's the Vegeta arrives on Earth of 'tism events.

>>96968883
All the properly autistic trekkies died from an anger-induced aneurysm ages ago.

>>96968905
which guard regiment?

>>96968928
The Ultramar Auxilia

>>96968922
Chaos is literally the only faction that ever gets any significant wins over the Imperium. Sure, sometimes Necrons or Tyranids or Tau win, but when they do, they only lose planets or space marine chapters the Imperium doesn't care about.

>>96968931
thats what i want
it'll be so funny if we get that for 11th over catachan refresh

>>96968909
>IG getting replaced with anything
an absolute win

>no one wants to talk about captain tycho
>everyone wants to talk about star trek
I'm getting my 8th edition codex. You guys are gonna learn some Tycho lore.

>>96968959
If that were to happen, the dichotomy between laughter and despair would kill me.

>>96968878
And if the Tau Empire wants to take more territory, they will run into Ultramar, because Ultramar is on the Imperium’s border on the Eastern Fringe. This makes Ultramar an important place, as other threats coming in from the Eastern Fringe on that half of the galaxy will have to do the same.

How does /tg/ feel about female space marines?

>>96968965
If you want to start discussion, you have to posit a question or statement, otherwise there is no prompt for a reply of any significance.

>>96968972
Literally nobody wants them.

>>96968964
Go fuck yourself.

>>96968972
Female space marines destroys the identity of both Space Marines and Sisters of Battle.
Just give Sisters of Battle a buff in lore and call it a day. They're already the female counterpart of Space Marines, both the nuns to their monks as well as the females in power armor with bolters.

>>96968943
yes, chaos wins over the imperium, but not anyone else. thats my point.
humans are just too weak

>>96968972
Fuckoff namefag

>>96968992
Sorry that your literal NPC faction is the worst part of the entire setting :(

>>96968972
I think they are cool, but not nearly enough is written or illustrated regarding how unnerving, and sometimes terrifying, it is to be in a situation with someone who has such an ruthlessly ardent religious faith.

what faction lets me spam plasma guns

>>96969052
dark angels? Admech?

>>96969052
30 Hellblasters seem like a lot. If you go Dark Angels you can give Terminators plasma too.

>>96968969
>This makes Ultramar an important place, as other threats coming in from the Eastern Fringe on that half of the galaxy will have to do the same.
Sure but...what is it protecting?

Yeah it's protecting 'general territory' but there's nothing critical over there. There's no single planet that splits the Imperium in half if it gets taken. There's no super-important artifact necessary for all FTL.

Even if all 500 worlds of Ultramar were to fall, the Imperium would only have lost 1/20000th of its territory.

>>96967338 (OP)
>They killed Chairon offscreen
>In a hopeless sacrifice that also took the captain and a bunch of marines
Nice. Proper grimdark that is.

>>96968905
Ultramarines unique units being their auxilia would be actually cool desu

>>96968972
is that peg bundy?

>>96969093
Was Chairon based on Ving Rhames?

>>96969092
It’s protecting the rest of the Imperium from threats coming from the Eastern Fringe, that’s what a border stronghold does. The rest of the Imperium becomes more vulnerable if it wasn’t there.

>>96969093
>Secondaries online are mad saying he should of died in another secret level animation (read VERY EXPENSIVE) or in another game

>>96969125
none of that is happening

>>96969125
>joke that named space marines who take their helmets off have mega plot armor
>be surprised that they die in a footnote without having a 12-book series and two games about it

What if instead of being some fatass blob thing, Nurgle was a cute chubby demon chick who wore diapers? I'd join Chaos too ngl.

>>96969145
That's because you're a freak

>>96969125
if it wasn't for the fact that titus got named the new big dick of the second company so abruptly, and that the entire ordeal seems so fucking forced, I would agree with you, but none of this sits right with me and I dont like it. But I already hate marines, let alone ultramarines, so I dont really care. Just give me traitor guard.
Its fucked up how Ultramarine's are more likely to get human auxiliaries before traitor guard becomes a fully fleshed out army.

>>96968589
>>96968620
>>96968636
Not sure if this person is being sincere or not or just lacks a broader understanding of the themes this setting explores. Ultramar is important precisely because it isn't Terra or any other "critical" location in the Imperium. It's important because it is the spiritual home of Humanity, the relocation of the kind of Human experience that represented the culture that created the Men of Gold. Terra is consumed by it's purpose unable to foster any sort of real "Humanity". Malcador waged an entire cold war to make sure that "Humanity" survived in this kind of capacity.

If you absolutely must use real world analogs Terra would be the UK and Ultramar would be America.

>>96969093
>Chairon was a 10,000 year old Cawl super secret project btw
James really knows how to leave a shiner.

>>96968838
>>96968848
>>96968857
>>96968875
what are your favourite enamel washes and whats your approach to applying them?

>>96969139
>40k secondary fans shocked that people dying ignobly and forgotten as the galaxy effortlessly moves on without them can happen to characters THEY LIKE
Killing Chairon and 'only 3 men' scottsih captain was based and I hope GW comes for Gabrial as well

>>96969166
I use tamiya panel liner over an airbrushed layer of polyurethane gloss varnish, flows into recesses to minimize cleanup needed and gives really nice hard lines, might not be the style you're looking for though

>>96969172
Ok time for bed Demon

>>96969161
That sounds dumb. The same Imperium that sends child soldiers into the arms off the enemy wearing suicide vests, will lobotomize mothers for stealing a loaf of bread and turn them into servitors, has industrial baby furnaces, and will gladly sacrifice hundreds of billions of Guardsmen on an unimportant frontline just to slow some minor unheard of alien species down.....is concerned with saving the 'spiritual home' and culture of humanity?

>>96969180
Gorgeous models king

>>96969185
Don't reply to me decalmutant

>>96969183
Yes.

>>96969198
The hell's ur problem?

>>96969180
do you put satin or matte varnish over all of that once you're done?

>>96969206
I airbrush ak ultra matte, hit the metallics with brushed on satin and purity seal wax with gloss afterwards

>>96969180
why is there bath foam on the bases

>>96968883
This reminds me of the autistic trekkie girl I dated years ago.
Good lord her gigantic mammaries were so amazing. I miss her milkers more than anything in this world.

>>96967681
Right now I'm working on a Castellax, after that I'm working on Deathwing Knights and lastly a Leviathan Dreadnought. This ought to take me until the end of next year.

>Jesus Christ. How many times do I have to say this.
>I am NOT a god, I'm just The Emperor of Mankind for all eternity.
>I'm just a 40,000 year old being who has also been most major historic figures, including the Son of God.
>Now do what I say so that all of humanity can live in an angelic pocket dimension free of evil forever and if you don't then literal demons from hell will destroy the universe.
>And also go forth and proselytize on my behalf and be sure to punish anyone who doesn't follow my belief system.
>Also, I need to eat the souls of 1,000 people every day or else, but it's totally differen than the Aztecs, I swear.
>Also, I need to personally authorize and fortify every single individual human psyker in an empire of nearly half a quadrillion people.
>Also the light I emit in the spiritual realm is literally greater than any of the 4 actual gods and is so powerful that it's attracting threats from other galaxies.
>Also, I'm a biomancer who can choose my form and I choose to be an 11ft tall herculean stereotype wearing equally giant golden power armor.
>My children and their children will all also be giant supermen who are physically *different* than baseline humans and are in fact called my Angels.
>But no, I'm not a god.

Why is Big E so unbelievably fucking stupid?

>>96969185
it's so fucking funny watching you try to suck up to thread regulars lmao

>>96969271
I dunno ask /hhg/

>>96967681
Nice, i'm making my own DA combi LT, going for more stealthy nocturnal green

>>96969277
You worship Satan

>>96969166
I like cheap winsor newton craft store oils and white spirits. I do all my basecoats, maybe a drybrush for vehicles and heavy chipping, then lock everything down with gloss. Then go in with thinned oils into all the recesses and let them set for an hour or two. Then go in with a cotton swab and some white spirits and tidy up any weird spots, and also do any streaking you'd like while you're working on it. Once you're happy just lock it down with gloss, then over than with matte. Pic related is before and after oils

>>96969271
And then he makes human mistakes and has human flaws and then onlookers complain that he doesn't act enough like an omnipotent god.

>>96969271
>Also, I need to personally authorize and fortify every single individual human psyker in an empire of nearly half a quadrillion people.
>an empire of nearly half a quadrillion people.
Theres at least 2 quadrillion people on Terra alone.
Also the Emperor logic was that normal people would think like this
>I am not a god despite golden aura and being large
>This makes sense as there are no gods so any resemblence to our ideas of a god is concidence or a manipulation of the god botherers to get them to follow
>literal demons from hell
The Warp is not hell, and daemons are not demons. All life goes to the warp and daemons are just manifestations of the most common emoitional feelings of the dead. There was no Heaven with angels that turned aganist god that became demons
Fuck off secondary

>>96969271
>Jesus Christ.
Stopped reading there. There's never been any mention of the Emperor conversing with Jesus in and of the Canon source materials

>>96969301
Why would he talk to himself?

>>96969307
>They Hated him because he spoke the truth

>>96969291
Love that Model Queen, awesome rust effects.

>>96969321
>>96969277

>>96969326
Yes we saw your comment and rejected it for the schizo nonsense that it was.

>>96969321
I am going to go to the nearby reserve and pay the local medicine woman to bring the spirits upon you and hex you with bad luck forever.

>>96969342
I hope this is some other anon playing a joke. Otherwise why would you do this to me?

>>96969342
Gotta say tho, those rust effects are really sublime. Hard to say If I've ever seen better.

>>96969347
>Doakes.jpg

Seriously what the fuck is going on with the "story" in 40k?

It feels like ever since they revived the Lion the plotline because completely unhinged from whatever it was at the beginning on 8th.


>indomitus crusade retconned from 112 years to just 12
>suddenly, Vigilus is the next big thing.
>whoops, it's actually the pariah nexus
>Dante's entire imperium nihilus plotline is abandoned in favour of the Lion taking the spotlight
>Lion immediately gets sidelined
>no, wait, it's actually the Tyranids
>meanwhile they release a prequel book series that culminates in them fighting the necrons

>>96969357
Who cares, I just read up on the little bits of fluff I like.

>>96969357
James is frantically looking for something that sticks.

>>96969357
The story is nothing more than excuses for your dudes to fight some other dudes using official Games Workshop miniatures. Narrative coherency limits things too much. It has to be brief and confusing.

>>96969369
As a Newfag even, to me that is personally unacceptable. The franchise is too valuable and too many people are invested in the story for it to be treated like this.

>>96969381
>As a Newfag
You're the problem.

>>96969357
Narrative inconsistency is just kind of normal from a meta standpoint, it's just whatever dudes are fighting whichever other dudes at the current moment. The real headscratcher is why shrink the length of Indomitus to 1/10th? Was that necessary?

>>96969357
The story is just a medium to sell toys

I really want a squad of 2nd ed stormboyz. The odds of GW doing a made to order thing for them like the kommandos are pretty low but not zero right?

>>96969357
It reflects high up admin cleakers being made of new threats to fight and wars on worlds that need manpower and whose fighting where that need more support. Really the story should be 10 times more hectic than it really is. Orks WAAGH previously undetected attacking somewhere, a very scary dark eldar raid on a planet with loads of pull so its treated as a bigger threat than a whole hive fleet because corruption and birbery is that bad, etc

>>96969404
Your best bet is finding a recaster, there are a few that do metal casts but they generally have more limited catalogues.
Maybe ask the subreddit

>>96969395
How so?

what colour lasers for las weapons?

>>96968756
>>96968771
Squad Broken would kill a post-Disney senpai outright but a Wookiepedia contributor would be able to out-'tism any WH fan except MAYBE the black lion guy.

>>96969357
I don't even know what happened since Lion came back.
The tyranids appeared at the beginning of 10th, they had a poll who will win some battle (and get their models revealed first) and iirc tyranids won but I don't think anything came out of that.
Then nothing happened for an entire edition and now Titus is fighting crons or something but you're saying that's a prequel?

>>96969357
Because a coherent narrative would make the end-of-edition campaign less marketable or some shit.

Can we get some Tank posting in this bitch? I swear I only see me and the Choas dudes sick lookin tank.

>>96969357
>GW's narrative leader is a retard with daddy issues and muscle mommy fetish
>wondering wtf is happened

>>96969502
>That is how I learn ADB is the narrative leader of GW

>>96969510
>>96969502
You're going to get Serena Williams as the Return of Russ and you're going to like it and btw it's MA'AM.

>>96969457
They had a big focus on fighting the necrons in 9th ed in the pariah nexus but it got sidelined by the Lion returning. Then the Tyranids were the next big thing but that went nowhere and the focus is now apparently on necrons again since the end of the dawn of fire series. All of this shit actually preceded the plague wars in 8th edition which also didn't get resolved.


So now Titus has to liberate ultramar, which doesn't matter because it will get fucked up by mortarion just a few years later.


Vigilus and Dante's regent plotline is completely dead in the water, which is weird since at some point it seemed that they were going to do a parallel to the imperium secundus thing with Dante, Guiliman and Lion at some point IIRC

>>96969357
40k is a setting not a story and treating it like a story is a cause of 90% of its problems (primarchwank, characterwank etc)

>>96969398
So then shouldn't there be more effort put into making a storyline that isn't all over the place? One that makes it feel like you've made a good "investment" by buying 40k minis and makes you want to buy more?
Wouldn't a non-cluster fucked, more coherent story do more for attracting new players to purchasing said toys?

>>96969517
Cont.

My theory is that they overcompensated for the negative reaction to some elements of 8th edition and took a different designer philosophy with marines(which is how we got bladeguards, the SW upgrades and the Templar upgrades), you can still see the "old" 8th designs in the dogshit BA refresh.
The dark imperium series was pushed out in 8th to flesh out the new setting but they then inexplicably decided to do a prequel series with dawn of fire(why not just do dawn of fire first?) but dawn of fire sets up this massive conflict with szarekh which is completely ignored by the previous Dark imperium books.


>>96969531
That's exactly my criticism. They are trying to create some kind of narrative which goes against the nature of the setting and are making it even more incoherent as a result

Wrack No.25 is ready, just 5 more left.

I will take short brake from painting Wracks and I will focuse now on the Haemonculi and maybe Grotesques.

>>96967681
>Post what you're working on
i think im done other than one or two touch ups around the helmets

why are rhinos more prestigious than chimeras in the lore when chimeras are the superior vehicle

Is there even anything of value to the Imperium in the Imperium Nihilus?

>>96968959
After Catachans, I wondered what the next regiment to get a release would be between Vostroyans and Mordians, but I think Mordians are fucked, their niche of being the fancy orderly regiment with blue uniforms is gone

>>96969554
Because GW couldn't let space marines ride in cheap metal boxes, so they had to make excuses why the crude exploration vehicle is ackhually super advanced and way too advanced for the Imperial Guard. Also, because each army has to have their own model line, otherwise the bean counters cry.

I feel like the december collage theme is gonna end up being "something festive/christmasy" but maybe we should have seasonal stuff like that as a subtheme for bonus points those months instead? Like let's say mounted unit/bikers win but you're encouraged to give it a festive spin if you want etc

>>96969457
Right now the most recent lore event has been the Imperium's second go at taking down the Pariah Nexus, which also coincides with a Necron civil war between the Silent King and Imotekh. Last we heard, Vashtorr showed up to fuck with everyone with the weapon he got from the Arks of Omen stuff.

The next Cawl novel is probably our best bet in actually advancing that story line

>>96969446
>except MAYBE the black lion guy
Black Lion Guy is like entry level SW autist. Need I remind you of the Mandalorian Purist who draws nothing but "true Mandalorians" mutilating Dave Filoni and his Filoniverse characters?

>>96969537
It really comes down to GW fucking up by initially having the Indomitus Crusade end after 112 years and having that be the new present status quo, but then realizing it'd be stupid to just skip the Indomitus Crusade, so they retconned it so the new status quo is merely 12 years after Gathering Storm. This fucks everything up, and Dawn of Fire was a big victim of it

I just subscribed to Valrak AMA

>>96969583
What's a Valrak AMA? It sounds like some shitty slavjank gun

for the anons that are participating, how are your collage entries coming along? my deffkoptas are looking fairly shit atm, and ive lost the pilot for my dakkajet so im bailing on doing that

>>96969093
>Nice. Proper grimdark that is.
This, plot(-marketing) shield is one of the worst shit that could happen.

>>96969583
I dont care for your ecelebs

>>96969583
Did you really want to have a rumor video every single day in your sub box?

>>96969583
buy an ad

>>96969598
i've finished mine but i might do something else too

>>96969577
IMO it should have went like:
>gathering storm
>devastation of Baal campaign
>primaris introduced
>dawn of fire series introduced and ends, pariah nexus set up
>Abaddon teams up with vashtorr to conquer the dark imperium
>Lion wakes up, DA refresh
>campaign with Lion And Dante Vs Abaddon and vashtorr, BA refresh
>indomitus crusade ends, dark imperium series begins
>ultramar becomes a clusterfuck as Guiliman, Mortarion and Szarekh have a threeway over owning it

>>96969496
kill yourself faggot

>>96969598
I've been kinda slacking cause I got sucked into another replay of Bloodborne but it's built and primed with some basecoats. I'll be working on it later today.

>>96969598
Finished mine a week ago

>>96969611
>>96969618
what did you guys paint?

>>96969617
thats a start at least

>>96969622
shadowsun
i'm going to do some touchups but she's pretty much done

>>96969622
The old metal celestine

>>96969598
I haven't started yet and I don't know what to do.

>>96969614
You first.

>>96969532
I like a sandbox. I specifically fleshed my guys out to be patrolling the farthest reaches of the map in order to avoid having my guys be pulled from their story. That's what's fun to me. Taking the tiny disjointed parts of the lore and making something cool out of it. I think the more room for people to make cool stuff the better.

>>96969598
Working on my 3rd edition raptors. Basecoats are just about done.

>>96969598
what is the collage theme for this month?

>>96969604
rumour vids are fine, the annoying things are the Space Marine 2 videos.
>brand new armour!
>brand new class!
>datamined new bolter!

Probably a stupid question, but what do people do for robes etc for their dark angels now, there's very little i can see in the newer range (Im picking the hobby back up after quitting in 2012)
Also any good recommendations for paint shelves/racks, I have a mix of Vallejo bottles and citadel.

Pic is first paint job since 2012. Needs improvement

>>96969702
The problem with GW's current method is it's the worst of both worlds. The narratives are spastic and bounce from front to front, but at the same time it stars the same central cast with a stable, rotating gallery of guest stars. Every now and then someone new pops up like the Necron Ur-Destroyer or the Tau Twinstars or DA's Lion, but they're either forgotten just as quickly or linger around like bad fart playing second fiddle to the faction's TRVE protagonist.

Funnily enough, Titus is almost a breath of freah air in contrast to how the last few narrative campaogns have been handled. He's just a normal marine doing normal marine things on a mundane, impossible battlefront while Guilliman fucks off to eo big protagonist things

>>96969775
Flyers/jump pack

>>96969652
What do you have? I can help you pick something.

>>96969780
>stabilizing the Ultramarian 500 worlds empire
>just normal marine things

>>96969780
Where actually IS Gulliman at right now in the current end of the timeline? Pariah Nexus was set back a while before Dark Imperium. And he's obviously not in Ultramar now.

>>96969777
The annoying thing is having to fucking listen to that fat fuck spit out of his fucking gob for any longer than a breaths worth of your time.

>>96969779
Greenstuff, there are also a fuckton of bits sellers on Etsy

>>96969786
>do what you've been attempting to do for 10K years (reclaim worlds for the Imperium)
>except, you know, do better
Yeah, it's pretty normal marine things all things considered. Just with a fancy label and a little more direction in which worlds to retake.

>>96969779
>Also any good recommendations for paint shelves/racks
a spice rack

>>96967510
>still reaches 10k concurrent player peaks on steam alone
>this somehow means it's forgotten
I thought reading comprehension was bad, but apparently number comprehension is much worse

Does anyone have tips for doing rust like pic rel? I have vallejo rust pigments in a little jar. The problem is controlling it and getting them to stay where I put them.

>>96969818
He's a bitter faggy xenosfuck, so excuse him

>>96969821
Uh oh, decalmutant melty

>>96969822
schizoid hours

Upgraded Gladius has dropped.

>Macraggots get better Gladius
I'm tired, boss.

>>96969842
You VILL use the special character models and you VILL be happy

They didn't fix the gravis calgar deathball lfmao

>>96969820
Pigment fixer and stippling

>>96967516
You could have melee drones to preserve the Tau lore about slower reaction times while fulfilling gameplay needs.

>>96969892
Now I'm imagining a drone with a knife taped to it

>>96969598
I probably wont get something done this month, I've got necromunda and gundam stuff I want done first
if I blitz through those I have some stormboyz I could do I guess but I doubt it

>>96967516
>WS5

>>96969904
>hitting most enemies on 3s
pretty strong

>>96969845
This is a test for 11th. It is the special characters edition, no more your guys

Man, whatever I used to prime my metal tau figs 20 years ago just absolutely refuses to let go. First trip through the sonic cleaner and scrub only got maybe 40% of shit off at most. Now it's going through a second cycle.

>>96969932
It's already been like that since 8th.

>>96969937
Taking from warmahordes then

>>96969932
so 11th is going to be even worse than 10th, huh?

>>96969937
8th had quite decent <your dudes> rules, no?

>>96969937
Nope they were encouraged, your rules didn't depend on you having a special character. Look at the new detachments, all need you to buy the <new named character> to be able to use it. Now will be required.
In the end of 9th GW tested removing special weapon costs and everyone clapped and then, no more weapon costs in 10th.
>>96969941
You bet

I'm listening to the Vahl audiobook and two characters are a night lord and a sister of battle saint who were brother and sister somehow despite the brides of the emperor not existing when the night lords were recruiting let alone the sisters of battle
did he join the night lords way later? am i thinking about this too hard?
it might get explained later in the book but im just confused

>>96969939
I've made this observation before.
>entire army revolves around one or more special characters
>figs have gone from customisable multi part to extremely monopose
>command points, stratagems and MTG combos
Basically everything that GW fanboys said was bad about Warmahordes back in the day now defines 40k. A pity they also did it extremely badly so it's not anywhere near as good as Warmahordes rules.

>>96969842
Next time don't pick an NPC chapter, loser

>>96969842
>Tactical, Devs and Assault marines are now just strategem/detachment bullshit

>>96969963
You can even see the warmahordes mentality of terrain being something that's unimportant aesthetically creeping in too as of the late

>>96969974
Deserved

>>96969941
It's not like I am still playing 10th edition.

>>96967681
Thigh bug!

>>96969093
Chairon getting unceremoniously killed offscreen as a result of Black Ultramarine Highlander is the funniest shit to me.

>>96970021
There can only be one ultratoken!

>>96969183
It's possible your impression of the setting is grossly flanderized and not particularly useful.

>>96970000
I'm going to be honest with you anon I don't see the thigh thing at all. It just looks like regular animal proportions

>>96970058
Its cause you arent a furry
Its mainly the post with a leg on top of tactical rock
Its the most visible thigh we had since the AoS Khorne priest

>>96970076
>Its cause you arent a furry
Ah that checks out since someone with severely burned out dopamine receptors probably sees things in a different manner

I have a question:

I have a unit led by a character with a "stand back up on 2+ at the end of phase" rule, for example custodes terminator captain.
The unit is in combat with a vehicle, let's say a knight.
In the opponent's shooting phase the vehicle shoots into combat and I decide to tank the damage on the captain, who dies. I roll a 2+ and he respawns outside of engagement range at the end of the phase.

Am I correct in assuming that he comes back as part of the unit he originally led and piles in/fights like normal in the opponent's fight phase?
Or is he now a separate unit?

>>96970088
>I decide to tank the damage on the captain
You can't do this, nimrod. Read the rules for leaders on page 39 of the rulebook.

>>96969842
Good. Give that rule a little weaker to to normal captains then its perfect. I would even change it to calgar not needing to switch a doctrin at all and keep it active untill chosen otherwise.

>>96970088
You can't tank it on the captain, you gotta assign the wounds to the bodyguard unit first. If the leader gets sniped out by precision though, then he returns attached to his bodyguard unit as per the rules commentary.

Gsc killed 2 named Ultramarines who didn't wear helmets.
Does this make them the strongest faction?

>>96970110
Why do you autismo's yap so much about helmets. Their deaths had nothing to do with helmets.

>>96970099
>>96970108
Well, there goes my funny combo idea.
Thank you.

>>96969959
Its gw employes the most subhuman retarded writers they can find. Its all shit and you can throw it in to the trash. Shit writing by amoron with no skill.

>>96970110
Only counts if they kill a character with a model. Named characters in books die all the time.

>>96969598
here's mine >>96968157

>>96969959
What do you mean? Do you think the Night Lords stopped recruiting after the Horus Heresy?

>>96970110
None are as feared as the dreaded genestealers.

>>96967681
Chipping away at the captain.

>>96970124
i mean it's confusing but i imagine it explains how or why he ended up as a night lord

>>96969842
>>96969845
>>96969932
>Died 2012
>Born 2026
Welcome back, 5th edition

>>96970111
helmet autism is so fucking stupid. i dont think i put a single helmet on any of the space wolves ive built and only about half of the black templars and dark angels.

the new GW space marine face sculpts are all really good, and it adds a ton of character to the models, and slapping helmets on everybody sucks the personality out of the army

if we were here for realism we wouldnt have knights with swords and axes running headlong into dinosaur bugs and egyptian robots. rule of cool always wins

>>96970128
thank you, taco boy

Take a detachment from your army and a named character from your army. What special rule would you staple to that detachment or modify to make it that character's personal subfaction when they are leading it?

>>96970133
>doesn't use helmets
Snowflake alert! Snowflake alert!

>>96970139
I'm so disinterested in named characters I don't even know which ones are available to me

>>96970155
Found the GSC player

>>96970133
The faggots who bitch about other peoples models not having helmets are faggots but there's nothing wrong with building your dudes with all helmets since they can be pretty cool

>>96970139
Belisarius Cawl. Any detachment.
While Cawl is in your army, pick one unit each turn to be your Oath of Moment. Units in your army can reroll hit rolls against your Oath target.

>>96970139
>Hermiatus the second son
>Outlander Claw
Whenever Hermiatus is on the battlefield, decrease the damage on mounted and vehicle units within 6 of this model by one and all vehicle units have an invulnerable +5 save. If Hermiatus is embarked in a vehicle, that vehicle gains this ability.

>>96970167
lol

>>96970139
As in a homebrew named character or a official one?

I dont know how everyone paints their metallics so well, mine always come out looking like shit. Its almost like the metallic paint is too thick or something, even with the vallejo airbrush metallics i still manage to fuck that up. Maybe its just not for me

Here is the statline of the GIGA CALGAR deathstar.
10 models
Gravis Calgar
6 Vitctrix Guard
Victrix Champion
Victrix Ancient
Cato Sicarius

This 10 man squad has 4 epic heroes. The standard statline is T4, 2+ 4++ with 4w. In addition, the blob has the following special rules

-1 to Wound (forever)
4+++ on Calgar
Fall Back/Advance and Shoot/Charge
Free Heroic Intervention
6 inch reactive move (There is an additional strat for a second)
Bloodsurge on model death
Unit wide +1 Attack and Strength that works on All models

Average is 5 attacks ws2 s5 ap2 d2. Of course, the characters have twinlinked and hit harder.

As this blob is all Tacticus and Gravis, Uriel can give it deep strike. In cover(one model out of LoS) this saves AP 2 on a 2+ and Ap3 on a 3+ thanks to AoC spam.


What does your army do to GIGA CALGAR?
You cannot tarpit him as the squad will kill any chaff. You cannot move near him as he will reactive, perhaps twice. If you shoot they have high AP, and -1 to wound, and will then charge you during your turn.
Angron on average kills less than 3 Victrix with Strike and less than 2 with Sweep.

>>96970200
>marine slop

man how the hell we have two new tyranid prime models and still no warrior refresh? what the hell are they doing?

>>96970139
Cypher CSM Detachment The Fallen
Chosen are battleline.
At end of opponent's turn pick 1/2/3 (based on game points) units and put them into reserve.

>>96970200
deep strike 20 neos with lethals
no reactive as I didn't move, don't care about -1 to wound beause I'm relying on lethals, don't care about broodsurge or reactive as I'll wipe it in one go. it ignores cover and has AP1 because of detach and ridgerunners, so you save on 3s still.
Get Acheron'd

>>96970219
Same reason that we were stuck with wings and scything claws for years despite having no flying units worth attaching to

>Eldar get new book for the first time in years
>It's a good book with many people saying it's made them interested in Eldar
>Eldarfags are somehow furious over this and try to disavow
What the fuck is wrong with them? Shouldn't they be happy about this?

>>96970185
Either. It's just wish listing for fun.

>>96970238
Are these people who said it's made them interested in Eldar in the room with us now?

>>96970200
>Deploying [Infantry]
You fool

any ultramarine tabletop players itt ? i tried playing my first game vs chaos daemons and it felt so hopeless to see them go on a hot streak with the invuln rolls whenever i rolled big damage....how am i supposed to play a more balanced army vs armies that want to get close and dominate the fight phase ?

>>96970238
Who is saying it's a good book if the elder fags are disavowing it? Try to get your story straight first.

>>96970200
Land raider redeemer with Vulkan’s buff. Dev wounds if it’s turn 2 since I’ll have been saving up for it. Have fun eating 2d6+6 s7 d2 ap-2 with reroll wounds, plus a MM, assault cannon, and HK because fuck it. Add in whatever is riding in the land raider just to be sure. 6 bladeguard and adrax or a Judiciar should do the job.

Deathstars are overhyped.

>>96970248
>he plays special characters
cringe

>>96970229
Being set up from deep strike counts as having made a normal move.

>>96970139
Asdrubael Vect. Realspace Raid.
While you have 5 or more pain tokens, your army has advance and shoot and charge.
While you have 10 or more pain tokens, your army has a 6+ FNP.
While you have 15 or more pain tokens, your army has an extra attack on all melee weapons.

>>96970277
>xe doesn't use named characters
gay and cringe

>>96970277
Bro look at the post it was in response to
Even then I could opt for a Mantle Of Wisdom Autarch with a Star Glaive to lead the Banshee squad instead, and probably do even better.

>>96970283
yes, but it does not trigger reactive moves, you count as having made a move, so don't have heavy and can't move again, but you didn't do a move so there's no trigger

>>96970277
>He doesn't think his jen characters are special
You can do it, homebrew anon. I believe in you!

>>96970263
Ah I was looking for pics from your game, I'm sorry it didn't go so well but I'm hopeful for the next one. I hope you still had some fun!
I hope you got to see the Canoness, still waiting on the little namething to go on the base

>>96970200
Is this worth 470 points?

>>96970298
i did ty!

>>96970305
It's just asking to get nuked by oath of moment or similar debuff targeting from other factions.

>>96970277
>he plays special characters
>>96970200
>Gravis Calgar
>Cato Sicarius

>>96967681
Ok, one final adjustment. I wasn't particularly thrilled with how dark she looked on the table so I went back for one final pass of highlights. Now I'm done.

>>96970292
A 10-woman squad of Banshees even with an Autarch will kill like 2 Victrix tops then immediately get eviscerated by the fight back. You just waste 300+ points to get a squad destroyed and make yourself look stupid.

>>96970331
Amazing work, anon.

>>96970342
Did you do the math? They hit on 2s rerolling 1, wound on 3s rerolling 1s ap2 2dmg, they ignore -1 to wound due to anti.
I don't think they clear the entire calgar squad but they should get rid of victrix on average.

>>96970331
butter

>>96967681
Not really a mini, but I've been working on my lightbox.
Following TSanon's lightbox advice yesterday, I couldnt do it as clean as crisp as him with a white background.
I guess I'm doing something wrong, but I'll just go back to my black background. Maybe find a black paper to have it more matte and not reflect as much light.
But it was worth the try.

>>96970268
>>96970268
That land raider on average with Oath giving +1 to wound kills 2 Macraggots(3 if the HK highrolls) when they use AoC. As punishment for getting close, the Macraggot squad gets d6+12 inches of movement to run away and bloodsurge into a different unit, avoiding the Judiciar squad.

>>96970200
I"ok bet Lelith +10 Wyches in Spectacle could do pretty well into this for half the points.

>>96970372
Yes. The Banshees still only force a 4+ save on the Victrix and it takes two unsaved attacks to kill one Marine. 24 wounds of Marines means they need 12 attacks to go through just to clear the bodyguard, and they only have 18 to work with. Even if we're generous and say that all of the Hits and Wounds are successful, the Save still cuts half of those out, leaving 9 unsaved attacks for 18 damage meaning two Victrix survive. This makes it impossible for the Exarch to swing at Cato or Calgar, as she only gets 3 attacks with the Executioner at 3 damage a hit. This does go to a 5+ save, but even then this means ideally 1/3 attacks will be saved if all three land and wound. This kills one of the remaining Victrix and leaves the remaining one with 1 wound left.
Importantly, this means the Autarch is wounding on 4+. With 4 attacks at 3 damage a piece, it's impossible for the Autarch to clear the Victrix, Cato, and Calgar all together. Considering the Wound roll now cuts the attacks in half, we have two attacks going in. Even if we're lenient and say the Victrix dies, Cato isn't going down even if the attack goes through, and Calgar is going to remain untouched.
Meanwhile Cato has a 9-attack Sweep profile and Calgar has six attacks that are 2+ to Wound, and every unsaved attack is a dead Banshee.

>>96970414
Forgot to summarize; so if we are EXTREMELY lenient and say that every single attack from the Banshee squad hits and wounds, they at best are only going to manage to kill the honor guard.

>>96970372
Sadly the Banshees will only kill an average of 2.5 solo. Jain will pick a couple off but she'll fucking explode on the clap back.

>Stealth Suits now required 5 Man squads

No James, I will not be buying your new KT Box.

>>96967681
Old pic of my Night Lord terminators

>>96970372
Banshees are pretty much designed to kill basic Marines and nothing else. Trying to toss them at a Terminator or Bladeguard squad is just going to get them mulched.

>>96969496
How many of these do you actually use in games?

>>96968756
The Legends wookiepedia of Anakin is bigger than the real life wikipedia biographies of several historical figures.

>>96970200
Ghaz + BM + 20 boyz
Clears in the waaagh in warhorde easily if all the boyz make it into melee

>>96970505
Ick. I have 9 of them. Guess I’m kitbashing an xv15 out of a fire warrior to bring me up to size.

The one melee deathstar that does it is Incubi with an Archon in Cartel.
31 attacks hitting on 2s critting on 5s with Sustained.
You get ~7.5 to 8devwounds, spend 2 aspect tokens for 10 devwounds which kills 5 blueberries. Regular wounds get 5 past AoC which kills 2 and a half more for 7 and a half dead blueberries.
Agonizer will scum 7 mortals so they'd kill literally everything but Calgar.

>>96970640
Just use an empty base and say its stealthed.

Also not sure if they're even worth taking anymore. They got more expensive, no more support systems, and forced 5s I think.

Shit sucks. 11e is going to go from trainwreck to nuclear bomb at this rate.

>>96970590
None

Jesus

>>96970238
>secondaries who never open codexes like it
>main audience doesn't
Many such cases

>>96970672
I dont like his apron but i like him even less naked
great paintjob though

>>96970672
Ew why is he naked

>>96970672
People who paint this well are not to be trusted.

>>96970645
Isn't Drazhar a better leader than Archon for incubi now that they don't reroll wounds? +1 to wound is still very good.

>>96970722
Depends on detachment. rerolling hits to fish for 5+ sustained has infinitely more value than +1 to wound.

>le wacky ork grot
I'm beginning to realize that Ork models are for redditors

>>96970766
yeah bro trying to have fun is literally r*ddit, we need to retvrn to endless bitching

>>96970766
This has literally been the whole point of Greenskins for the entirety of the Warhammer franchise, tourist.

God damn

>>96970766
>venerated armor of a proud, centuries-old warrior reduced to mere playthings of childish green retard
Grim
Dark, even

What model is this?

>>96970797
I think it's fully 3d modeled and painted by him
He called it a Cheetah
https://www.brushrage.com/minis/98

>>96970797
Custom vehicle. He called it a Cheetah

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/znbfzmcs/warhammer-40000-boltgun-2-voice-acting-a-battle-sister-with-alanah-pearce/

Damn they did the 'beautiful actor playing hideous hag' meme

>>96970816
>>96970824
>not a kit
Lame.

>>96970829
>alanah
so boltgun's just going to be a voice acting refuge for the funhaus C-team

>>96970829
Very nice. Now lets see if she paints her models.

>>96970848
Boltgun isn't exactly AAA anon.

>>96970854
It's just funny that both protagonists are ex-members of a dead youtube channel
Rahul at least was on some shitty CW shows like iZombie but

>>96969820
These are the best fat bastards GW has ever made. Why does AoS get all the good fatties, you'd think 40k would have more obese daemons/ people since there can be trillions of people per world. A slaanesh glutton gorging on flesh, a khornate glutton gorging on bloody flesh, a nurgle glutton gorging on rotten flesh, a tzeentch glutton gorging on.... tattooed covered flesh that consuming it acts as a cannibalistic form of reading??
Look we should have more fat models like this in 40k

>>96970829
That's a man

>>96970829
>alanah cunt
>beautiful
She's a hag and a grifter, anon.

>>96970766
Orks have always been wacky and weird.
That's like one of the founding core themes of them as a faction. Aka it's completely fucking ridiculous.

>>96970829
That face on the drawing looks fucking awful.
It's an actual man face with a Karen bowl cut. What fucking retard made this?

Rank the factions in order of silliest to most serious.

>>96970871
Really? You're telling me you wouldn't, given the chance? She's even wearing a warhammer T-shirt.

>>96970829
How did she worm her way in this time what the fuck
>>96970896
Oh I absolutely would, shes hot but shes a piece of shit.

>>96970877
No. Orks are supposed to be fucking horrifying. This kiddie shit belongs in D&D.

>>96970889
>Silliest
Orks, Harlequins they are literal clowns for gods sake they are somewhat silly despite their stern and serious mission and demeanour
>Most Serious
This is much harder, nids,necrons and dark eldar are pretty serious. Hell even the Imperium is usual portrayed pretty silly these days as are the space marines

>>96970896
Only if I plan on Marrying her.

>>96970901
>shes hot but shes a piece of shit.
QRD? Never heard of her before
>captcha STD8T

>>96970896
I'd let her tonguepunch my fartbox so I don't have to hear her voice, sure, but she's still a wretched cunt.

>>96970902
>Orks are supposed to be fucking horrifying
No, orks wacky shit and have always have been.
Don't let Mossa's gore shit or other shitty fanart trick you.

>>96970902
It's a matter of perspective, as >>96970796 pointed out

>trying to make new thread
>timer keeps resetting
How does the timer thing work?
I'm connected to my home network so its not like my IP is resetting

>>96970918
Even mossa's art portrays orks as wacky goobers having a good time

>>96970931
You were not the chosen one, cease and desist

>>96970914
Shes a """Games Journalist""" and that should tell you enough

>>96970903
Similarly but opposite to the Orks, I'd argue Dark Eldar are so over the top horrifying it comes back around to being silly

>>96970935
She's also responsible for all the feminist shit and black nords in the newest god of war, and had a hand in the scam that was Creator Clash 2/3

>>96970934
For real. Someone else make the thread

>>96970949
no anon!
she said she didnt work on god of war at all!
nevermind the fact she deleted the clips of her saying she did

Left handed or right handed Mortarion, teegee? Which one should I assemble?

>>96970951
>>96970965
>>96970965
>>96970965
Okay

>>96970957
Left handed, he is meant to be evil after all and the root word for sinister comes from 'left handed'
However would he wield his scythe or his pistol in his dominate hand? Which is the left handed option

>>96970896
her btw

>>96970896
She has 666k Subscribers on youtube

>>96970981
damn that explains the nose

>Hello Captain.
>You may be a war hero with a proven record of loyalty, but the planet you were born on has rebelled.
>That is unfortunate, but I haven't stepped foot on that world in 80 years. My life has been service to the Emperor.
>Yes but you may be tainted. We'll have to torture you for a few hours to find out.
>But I did nothing wrong.
>I really wish you hadn't said that. Claims of innocence indicate degrees of guilt.