Do you guys think it's worth buying bootlegs at pic related? I live in a third world country(Brazil) and original figures are really expensive here, costing hundreds if not thousands of reals(the local currency). Even with the abusive taxes on imports, all I can do is buy these bootlegs on aliexpress because they are still cheap compared to the originals, or maybe not, I think they have almost the same price because of the taxes on the bootlegs. Also, the problem is that sometimes I buy really bad bootlegs

Good bootlegs I bought at aliexpress:
>Figma 359 Guts from Berserk
>Hasbro Spider-Man from the 1994 cartoon
>Hasbro Venom also from the 1994 cartoon

Bad bootlegs I bought at aliexpres:
>NECA Jungle Hunter Predator
>Hasbro Marvel Legends Deadpool(Build a Figure Juggernaut)
>Yamaguchi Agent Venom

The Predator has bad painting details and is a pain in the ass to fit the cannon in his shoulder. Deadpool didn't came with his classic belt with a holster and grenades. The Yamaguchi Agent Venom has bad joints and articulations and he didn't came with the classic Venom head, I think I should have bought the CT version, I heard good things about their bootlegs. Sorry, I know I'm an amateur and I might be annoying you guys, I started collecting figures about a year ago, but I just wanted to know some tips for buying decent bootlegs(if that is a thing). I only know how to look at the reviews and the store's reputation on aliexpress, but that doesn't always help to buy a decent figure. Should I stop buying bootlegs? I heard that they harm the industry and consumers. I can buy original figures from now on, even if it's just two or three a year

There is no rhyme or reason to getting decent bootlegs. It's a luck of the draw thing. But yeah CT bootlegs are pretty good quality, at least the 4 I have.

If you don't want to gamble spend the extra to get genuine figures. Even if you get less figures they'll be better quality. But if you don't mind the gamble for a cheap ok figure then go that route. It's up to you buddy, no one else can make that call for you.

>>11434641
Thanks, I think I'll do the following: buy genuine figures of characters I really like and bootlegs of the ones I don't like that much

CT toys is currently some of the best value for their price and quality.
Transformers also has a lot of great quality KOs, both of official product(which has been lacking as of the last few years, but still plenty of older figures that hold up) and third party toys.
Most other things can be a crapshoot. NECA KOs can be close , but due to attempting to mimic the paint apps with little QC means you have a lot of issues with stuck joints. Generally revo, figma and SHF KOs will be pretty terrible and not hold up to much play, but may look ok initially for the price.

>>11434619 (OP)
All of CT Toys releases this year and last have all been great and they keep getting better and expanding their roster of copies and with their 3rd part brand Mess Toys doing more customs. These are all my CT figures and the Revoltech copies are the best ones.

>>11434879
Forgot pic

>>11434885
bootlegs are exact rip offs of pre existing figures with dubious quality
third parties are just figures that are not official, alot of them are made in higher quality than the original companies

>>11434619 (OP)
Have you looked into alternative Chinese brands instead of KOs? They are probably the best value-for-money right now, even more so than KOs in some cases.
Like this SHF-equivalent kit is just 89RMB even though it's licensed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmaLl_qYJuA
Some of these brands happen to be ex-KO makers too and they know how to compete.

>>11434908
>third parties are just figures that are not official,
Yet need that original copyright righted idea to sell hence it's a bootleg you unimaginative retard. How many autobot and deception stickers do you buy to put on your third party bootlegs you fucking faggot? Are they official stickers from hasbro or third party bootlegs from toyhax?

>>11434619 (OP)
It’s worth doing research into good ones, definitely. Also sometimes on sites like zenmarket you can get used/boxless figures off JP mercari and jdirect for super cheap, which shouldn’t result in too much tax.

>>11434908
>third parties are just figures that are not official
I think that most would agree with your definition

>>11434885
>>11434912
How ever this petulant adolescent does have the dictionary definition right.

>>11435033
Oh it's you athena
Apologies, I thought you an ill mannered edgelord. Not a terminally online basement troll.
I look forward to see you getting banned for the millionth time as you rail about everything while I live rent free in your head as I have for several years now.

>OP posts an innocent thread
>devolves quickly into pedantry because third party is used colloquially to separate copies and independent designs
Ah, sasuga /toy/. Buy secondhand from Japan or sites like Superbuy to access Carousell.

>>11434910
The fondjoy are horrible.
I have the mark VI kit and has serious problem with the hands joints.
The only chink company got license is the Blokees.
At least the EVA kits are better than Bandai ones
Also the Miku figure is good for the price and better than buying the Figma KO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNGl-R3y7t4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEcIBwHzV8

>>11434912
Imagine being this much of a Hasbro simp and still getting fucked on quality

>>11435158
I honestly don’t get how Chinese toys with such autistic attention to detail, low production and kibble-less transformations can be around the same price as “higher-end” hasbro stuff in this day and age. If I were involved with the design process for hasbro I’d be out to poach some 3P/bootleg designers.

>>11435185
As a long time 3P collector, the best value in 3P was before Covid. 2014-2019 was a peak age for it, decent variety and good prices.
A lot of good values relative to size and detail you see, like that Megatron, were released over 7 years ago now. When it was out, it was more expensive than Hasbro figures, but also cheaper than the prices Takara MP were getting.
Modern 3P prices are pretty fucked. A Legends figure at $70 plus just doesn't seem like a good value when I was getting MP scale figures for . Reissues or remaining stock of older 3P from this era remain at the prices they were, and as Hasbro prices inflate they seem like an even better value than they were back then, but besides some KOs we're not likely to get values as good as they were.

>>11435226
>it’s been 7 years since I bought him
Say it ain’t so…

>>11434910
>>11435136
OP here, thanks anons

Here are the Figma 359 Guts and the NECA Jungle Hunter Predator. I didn't mention the 2012 Spider-Man movie figure on the left because I got it as a gift when I was a teenager. I didn't buy it with the intention of collecting figures

>>11435645
And here are the Hasbro Spider-Man and Venom from the 1994 cartoon, Hasbro Marvel Legends Deadpool(Build a Figure Juggernaut) and the Yamaguchi Agent Venom. What do you guys think?

>>11434619 (OP)
use zenmarket if you're planning on buying a lot of japanese figures
you get your own warehouse and can shop pretty much anywhere across japan

>>11434882
How are the joints and articulation? How come you didn't get Venom? Was it not as good as those?

>>11435104
Dead cats.
>>11435047
Life sucks.
>>11435033
Singapore.

>>11436056
Also find it sad that chungus can spell better than the 50 year old creep lmao
Also on the topic of the thread if I were to get something of the site it would be these KO gunformers based off various guns, they look “nice” and they are funny.

Give me some third party and bootleg recommendations boys. I primarily like transformers and Gundam and the usual Mecha classics. What are must buys? I refuse to pay the retarded prices that the usual suspects want these days, they can rot for all I care. Any content creators that specialize in this stuff?

>>11436004
>Venom
CT toys never made a venom, only agent venom.

>>11436299
What kinda transformers do you like? Comic, tv, geewun etc?

>>11436595
All of them but I prefer the designs from the Cybertron games the most and beast wars is my favorite series.

>>11436672
Your budget will have different options, but as a general lowest cost option to start, there are these cool KOs of the Kingdom toys that adds some diecast metal and makes them bigger.
They're called Beast alliance, which makes it a bit harder to look for since there's a line by the same name from Hasbro, but you should be able to find it on Aliexpress

>>11436004
Although I heard those were actually very nice for KO's they arent from CT. But I have heard good things about the KO venoms

if you gonna buy toys from Aliexpress at low cost you must have this points clear:
>most form not saying all will be bootleg with missing or bad impression at the boxes so will not be as good for display as originals
>some will have loose or tight joints thatyou will have to fix with semi flexible glue or hot hair dryer + silicone base lube
>others will have spots without propperly being painted
>at least 1 face will have weird eyes
>worst sceneario are missed parts orwroken joints

in my experience you will develope a second hobby of repairing toys and even customize theme, having a 3d printer also helps you, i used a FMD printer to make a balljoint for sentinel spider gwen neck which broke after moving it.

so buy at your won risk anon, but if you keep insiting you can end up learing a few things abbout fixing toys, damn you can even start resellign theme as upgraded quality bootlegs and earn a few bucks in the process if you have the time.

>>11434619 (OP)
I only bought one bootleg model kit from AliExpress so far but I was really impressed with the quality. It's definitely a cheaper plastic and manufacturing process than official Bandai, but not by much, and as long as you'll take some extra time cleaning the imperfections up it can turn out pretty nice.
I think I spent like 20 euro on it. There was a single missing piece though, but luckily nothing structural (you can see it in the bottom half of the shoulder logo)

>>11439462
>buy a KO SS4 Goku
>But not the Demonical Fit
aw shit anon what are you doing?

>>11442760
>aw shit anon what are you doing?
first time buying DB toys as an adult.

>>11443521
>first time buying DB toys as an adult.
also was really cheap in Aliexpress in comparasion to Demonical fit, and i based my puncharse selection based on price + verified delivery.

>>11439974
Iwaiting for this one arrive:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIyIQtYdvho
The company has officially license to make.
The moderoid (Goodsmile) you needs paint the rifle and some part of EVA 1 body.
Chink company can make a kit with a better color separation instead using sticker.

>>11434882
i need to get agent anti venom. i have the standard version but now i see i need the other to have them looking like the bash brothers. wish there was a space knight variant

I plan on enhancing some knockoffs.
I) I detach each joints/accessories
II) Cover them with primer
III) Apply paint
IV) Put finish
Is this the proper way or are there other steps?
Also, is a thread knockoffs a thing here?
Would posters here be mad if I made one?

>>11448720
>Also, is a thread knockoffs a thing here?
You can post at custom thread.

>>11434619 (OP)
I live in a third world country too (USA) and yeah I'd say they're worth it if you're buying the right ones. CT from their official store is a good example.

>>11448733
Alright thanks. It was my first choice but I just assumed it was for custom figs that uses genuine parts only.

>>11448777
Nah, a lot of customisers use bootleg fodder. Saves having to destroy an original figure, too.

>>11448834
Also aliexpress is good to get cheap bootleg gunpla and using theirs parts for custom.

Anyone here familiar or who had an experience with hao cai toy? Can't seem to find it anywhere.

https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Hot-Toys-OW-Overwatches-Figure-Hero_1600990647371.html

>>11434619 (OP)
Some sellers have original Bandai kits
I getting the 30 minutes sister line.
Just check if the seller send in proper package.