Chinese toy collectors will only pay 10% tarrifs on US made toys while we get hosed a whopping 55% after the pause expires. What the fuck was this deal? This isn't making america great again, this is pandering to China by giving them all out stuff for low prices. Manufactring can't come back to the US since the labor needed does not exist for the wages they want to offer. And those that do take up low wages are all being deported.

>>11452982 (OP)
Labor cost isn't why the US lost its manufacturing base. It's because of environmental regulations. It takes years and years just to open a factory of any sort. Any sort of hazardous manufacturing, like REM processing, gets blocked indefinitely. Even steel mills can get blocked indefinitely, which is what happened to US Steel's attempts at opening and/or modernizing their mills. Right before US Steel decided to sell, their planned refurbishment of their Mon Valley mill got blocked indefinitely (after years of waiting) by the local health department, which also fined them millions for bad conditions and pollution at the existing mill, problems which would have been fixed by the modernization. After that they abandoned the plan citing a new direction in the company.

Unless every single local and state regulator disappears overnight at a minimum, the US won't get manufacturing back. It has little to do with labor cost.

he hasn’t even signed a deal with England yet, nothing this man says should be trusted until the pen hits the paper

>>11452993
He already said on his Truth social it was a done deal. We get Real Magnets too.

>>11452982 (OP)
Wait so we’ll be paying more than before these tantrums started?

>>11452982 (OP)
And they wonder why we riot

Trumps doing y'all a favor a lot of y'all are addicted to buying now you'll have to be more selective

>>11453010
yeah okay wake me when he signs a deal until then he is baiting for attention like always

>>11452989
You are right about environmental regulations, they are one of the biggest problems to manufacture. Those tree hugging fags fuck so many people.

>>11453049
ah yes the people wanting to not live next to rivers of pollution are at fault for the state of the American manufacturing industry

>>11453039
This. I've cut back a lot on collecting plastic chink slop and I feel more free than ever.

>>11452982 (OP)
So there you have it. The end of toys in the US. Will you buy 39 dollar basic Marvel Legends? I won't. What do you think about the hobby in retrospective? It was always just a fleeting dream propped up by essentially slave labor wasn't it? It never could last as living standards rose around the world and living standards in the US declined. I guess be glad you got the figures you got before the toy industry ended.

>>11453049
>China is a shithole look how polluted it is
>fucking treehuggers ruined manufacturing
Chuds be chudding

>>11453111
It was never sustainable.

>>11453049
Those regulations exist so you don't have to breathe polluted air and get lung problems from being down wind of manufacturing plants. There's a reason we exported manufacturing, and why toys have not been made in the US in decades and decades. It's not all on the labor costs or the fact that there is no talent for fine painting details that modern toys have (which still are not all tampography as you might believe).

But you're ignorant of the past and how entire neighborhoods used to smell of rotten eggs from the industrial revolution and into the 1930s, 40s, 50s and even beyond in areas where large scale manufacturing was still happening. I suggest you look up the health risks of long-term exposure to chemicals in manufacturing.

>>11452982 (OP)
Are you actually retarded or just pretending? You literally have it reversed. America pays 10% on Chinese goods.

>>11453114
No job is sustainable when every single transaction, be it a burger, an iPhone, or a truck, must furnish shareholders with another mega yacht before it even thinks of paying for materials and labor.

>>11453110
Yet you're still here

>>11453111
I will continue to buy import toys from Japan

>>11453145
And then China charges more for those goods. So what does it matter?

>>11453049
Man I hope this was bait

>>11453145
Nope you’re retarded lol

Get a job.

>>11452989
>lost its manufacturing base
It wasn't lost. It was sold to China to make them become democratic and instead they just fucked the economy of the world over with cheap goods.
China companies are state owned and get state subsidies. They can afford to sell things at a loss because they're paid for with taxes.

>>11453163
They aren't made in Japan so you will be paying 55% more.

>>11452982 (OP)
The purpose of the exercise is to force US citizens and companies to stop doing business with China. It is not meant to stop China from doing business, or to make them economically weaker, the result of the war will do that and you don't want to conquer a broken nation so that you can seize its assets, you want to conquer an intact nation so that you can seize its assets.

This is the preliminary stage where the entire point is just to get Americans to stop buying shit from China so that manufacturers will dip in a different direction trying to fill that gap in the market.

TL;DR Just don't buy shit from China you dumb mongoloid.

>>11452989
>Unless every single local and state regulator disappears overnight at a minimum, the US won't get manufacturing back. It has little to do with labor cost.
Yes. And the billions of dollars it costs to build these factories, guess who'll absorb the cost of it? Oh yes, the US consumer. This entire trade war shit is so pointless and will just hurt us in the wallet at the end of the day no matter what.

>>11453323
>TL;DR Just don't buy shit from China you dumb mongoloid.
Many products (such as action figures) will simply never be produced in the US. It's stupid to think so.

>>11453323
>TL;DR Just don't buy shit from China you dumb mongoloid.
Many US manufacturers still require parts that are made in China dingus. The label may say Made in the USA, but it's made of 90% chinese parts.

>demotivation slide thread
>again
Recycled.

>>11453111
>The end of toys in the US.
They'll still be sent to Ollie's
They'll still be importable
Other countries will take up the lead in manufacturing
Nothing will change

>>11453320
you are very naive if you think the post office has the staff to open every package for inspection

>>11453573
>Nothing will change
The price is going significantly up lil bro.

>>11453704
its not actually
this 55% is actually just the current 30% according to lutnik, the 55% is only on the the key industries that had additional tariffs
trump's truth social posting is a barrage of horseshit like usual to hype up what is essentially keeping the current status quo

>>11453646
you are very naive if you think companies will risk marking their freight incorrectly just for you to save some money.

>>11453323
China will just sell to other countries, they'll lose our business, but they'll gain elsewhere. All the while *we* won't be able to import items from *any* nation for cheap, thus hurting every US business in the long run for no actual gain.

There's a reason no one with any brains would do something this colossally stupid.

>>11453715
Good old TACO.

>>11453323
And how long do you think it would take American toy companies to move manufacturing from China to the US if it was at all feasible to do so, even if they started the process on November 5th last year? What do you think happens to them in the interim period between the tariffs kicking in and them opening those hypothetical factories? How much do you think toys made by people not on developing nation slave wages will cost?
Keep saying "buh it's supposed to" until the cows come home, and try to think about what is actually going to happen to American companies that could not possibly move manufacturing back to the US in such a short time.

>>11453715
It's kinda sad the status quo was 0% and then became 30% but somehow 30% is the status quo. You're gonna carry that weight.

>>11453801
They can and will, because at the end of the day these japanese shops won't be the one getting nailed for the duties if it gets caught when going through customs, it will be the person who is receiving the package. They've been marking packages incorrectly for decades, nothing will change.

>>11453857
> these japanese shops won't be the one getting nailed for the duties
They may get banned from sending freight to the US though.

>They've been marking packages incorrectly for decades
Because it didn't matter then

>>11453908
it won't matter now either because again, the receiver is the one paying for it
they don't care otherwise, the shipping is already paid for, if you can't pay the duties the post office trashes it, its of no concern to them, the only time they ever try to even send things back internationally is if a package is valued over $800, and at that point you are getting a formal inspection so you would have gotten caught either way
by all means continue to fearmonger but nothing is going to happen

>>11453917
Not being able to send freight to the US in the future might cause a bit of an issue for them.

>>11453942
again, they won’t get blocked because the post office does not care you don’t get your package, they already got paid to handle it whether or not you pay the duties

>>11453942
>>11453962
>>11453908
>>11453827
Americans will literally do anything other than make their own toys just to save a few dollars all because of slave labor. Steady Craftsman was right.

>>11454070
Stop breathing Chungus.

>>11453962
Marking freight incorrectly can get the sender in trouble with customs agents. It's not the post office that handles the inspections.

>>11455231
nothing will happen

>>11453039
>>11453110
If you ever want to see actual cope, this is it right here. "It's actually a GOOD thing that my wallet gets raped when I make a purchase, because I can't self-regulate and need the government to punish me if I'm not being to be frugal!"

>>11453039
>>11453110
If you ever want to see actual cope, this is it right here. "It's actually a GOOD thing that my wallet gets raped when I make a purchase, because I can't self-regulate and need the government to punish me if I'm not being frugal!"

Le trump is le bad guy?

>>11453039
The amount if delusion here is astounding. I'll apply your same logic to the Biden admin:

Biden is doing you a favor by opening up the borders and exposing you to other cultures.

>>11454070
Don't worry, the new AI Palantir deep state will turn americans into slaves that serve as energy reserves for bots.

>>11455283
BASED

These comments are making the libtards look smart.

>>11456814
dead cats

>>11453320
You'll only pay a tariff if a United States storefront is supplied directly from China. You can circumvent it completely by ordering from places like amiami.

>>11453126
>talent
kek

Toys are the least of our worries.

Trump was a Trojan horse. He was put in place to be the face of America at a time when no other leader openly backing Israel could keep public support. The assassination attempt? Staged. The nonstop media fighting between left and right? Just theater. It’s all a massive psyop. You’re not watching politics you’re watching a script.

I worked in shipping and logistics almost a year ago, I was tipped off by my former boss, a retired intelligence officer, that World War III had already quietly begun. He told me it would go hot about six months after Inauguration Day, starting with Israel launching a strike on Iran.

He laid out two possible outcomes. One: Iran can’t respond conventionally and is forced to go nuclear or the U.S. and Israel stage a nuclear false flag and blame Iran. Two: Iran activates sleeper cells inside the U.S., or we see false-flag domestic attacks designed to look like they did. Either way, the objective is to spark mass fear and get full public support for direct U.S. involvement.

Russia, China, and North Korea are the last major powers resisting the New World Order. Everyone else has already been bought, broken, or brought into line.

Now we’re seeing the next steps. The military parade is just a front to reinforce D.C. The protests are the excuse to deploy National Guard and Marines not to contain unrest, but to quietly put forces in place for whatever comes next. Bug out now if you can.

>>11457445
That's fine, I'm tired of paying rent as is.

>>11453041
>>11453573
Toys will still be made.
Just not a prices anyone is willing to pay.

Wait 4 years and maybe we'll get a 'Grey-Hulk Snaps Everything Back to Reality" President and fixes all the shit mucked up by the previous guy

>>11453049
Nice bait. Did you get AI to type that for ya?

>>11458025
Same with food, gas, clothing...

>>11453806
china can't really gain elsewhere, though. They're already selling as much as they can to other countries, those countries won't just want to buy more now that the US isn't buying

>>11458258
Prices on necessities can't really be fixed. Toys maybe, but the demand on necessities is inelastic.

>>11452982 (OP)
Just move to Matel country so you can buy more than two dolls, its not that hard retard-kun

nothing ever happens.

>>11452989
>Unless every single local and state regulator disappears overnight at a minimum, the US won't get manufacturing back. It has little to do with labor cost.

You're wrong as it was NAFTA and FreeTrade that allowed companies to ship jobs to other countries where they didn't have to pay a basic standard wage and could skirt safety and environmental regulations.

I live in Hamilton Ontario and this city was once a major manufacturing powerhouse until the early 90's when NAFTA and FreeTrade started taking effect.

Most manufacturing jobs are now gone and the ones left are disappearing now because of trade disputes!!!FACT!!!

>>11458596
That's the fault of the rich, not other countries. And who is in power here currently? Not gonna return here when the rich are the ones helping the rich get richer.

>>11453323
American factories already can't fill job positions. There's is no shortage of factory jobs. "Moving jobs to America" doesn't mean or do anything. And that's ignoring the fact that factories aren't just going to spring up out of nothing. Who's banking rolling the millions of dollars in equipment to start up a new factory?

>>11459032
>American factories already can't fill job positions. There's is no shortage of factory jobs.

There certainly are. Most are laying people off and eliminating jobs just like any other industry in the US right now. A large part of that is thanks to the tariff uncertainty, leading to a downturn in manufacturing, because most don't want to order new shit when Trump just keeps kicking the can down the road on the whole situation.

>>11459053
Or, it's cheaper to hire the Chinese who have a history of producing quality goods, worth the price.

>>11458596
Everything you've ever said is false, so no, nobody should listen to you.

>>11459095
What's true is Americans incapable of making anything of value that's for sure.

>>11452982 (OP)
They'll anounce another pause on July 1st for TACO Tuesday.

>>11459168
You are from Singapore Chungus.

Aren't a lot of Hasblows stuff made in Vietnam? Transformers ars at least

>>11459053
>Most are laying people off and eliminating jobs
Every single factory I know of is hiring and has been hiring for years.

>>11459738
I don't know what area you live in, but here in reality, they aren't. All it really takes is a glance at the news and job reports to see that most major manufacturers like cars, automobiles, appliances, even some food packing plants, etc. are laying people off by the hundreds, if not thousands (but that's most industries right now).

There was a period of maybe 2022-early 2024 where they were hiring, but that was after lots of shut downs because of Covid, then the huge spike in buying in the 2-ish years after that. The last year especially has destroyed many factory and manufacturing jobs, and it is only getting worse and more uncertain because of the tariffs. A big part of it is just not knowing where the tariffs are going to ultimately land, so most production/manufacturing plants are slowing way down until things get sorted out. And I hope I don't have to tell you that when car manufacturers or appliance makers, or whatever start laying people off, firing people, and/or down sizing, every single plant that makes parts that go into those things also slow down.

This is coming from someone who is seeing it first hand.

>>11459965
Ok but they're hiring by me. So you're wrong.

>>11459965
>This is coming from someone who is seeing it first hand.
>here in reality, they aren't. All it really takes is a glance at the news and job reports to see that

What

>>11459969
Usually you have to take your head out of the sand to see what's going on around you. Might want to do that first.

>>11459980
Don't interject into a conversation if you can't read.

>>11459985
>take your head out of the sand to see what's going on around you
Maybe you should. Half the commercials on the radio now are adverts looking for employees.

>>11459994
I don't know what area you live in, but here in reality, they aren't. Sure there was a period between maybe around 2022-early 2024 where they WERE hiring, but that was after lots of shut downs because of Covid killing everyone sickly or near the end of their time. And I hope I don't have to tell you that when car manufacturers or appliance makers, or whatever start laying people off, firing people, and/or down sizing, every single plant that makes parts that go into those things also slow down.

>>11459998
>but here in reality, they aren't
and yet, they are

>>11459965
This is unironically a ChatpGPT response. Some loser got caught in the DC thread using ChatGPT to respond to an argument.

>>11460020
>new boogeyman just dropped
Fuck off faggot

>>11459994
Well, maybe you live in bumbfuck nowhere with a population of 217 people, so they're desperate to get people from anywhere to come on down to the local widget factory, but in most industries that matter, no, they're pulling back.

>>11460020
No, it "unironically" isn't. I guess you're so deep into the corporate overlords that you've been convinced that the ability to read and write is some sort of voodoo AI magic now. Go out and experience the world instead of blaming weird boogeymen.

>>11460040
>but in most industries that matter,

Yea they all moved to China because they built up their work force and got America to help pay for that over decades.

>>11460040
>No, it "unironically" isn't. I guess you're so deep into the corporate overlords that you've been convinced that the ability to read and write is some sort of voodoo AI magic now. Go out and experience the world instead of blaming weird boogeymen.
Sorry it's just >>11459998 and >>11459965 are worded and phrased nearly identically. The way it's formatted, the way the response is written, it's AI generated. And someone in the DC thread got caught using AI to respond to an argument. No need to get so defensive Mamood.

>>11460119
I don't know what you're on but it's the same it's always been, there's no new manufacturing jobs since COVID killed off a decent portion of the work force. I really hope I don't have to tell you again when you continue to lie about opportunities arising from whatever advertisements on local radio that play in whatever backwater state you're from.

>>11460121
Well at least this response wasn't nearly identically phrased to the other two. I'm not saying I don't believe you, the content you're posting may be technically right, but it was written by a chat bot.

>>11460122
Again with these lies. Haven't you gotten tired of this /Pol/ boogeyman you espouse behind every post?

>>11460123
>ChatGPT
>/pol/ boogieman
Wut? Not helping your case Grok.

>>11453039
He is also breaking the back of Chinese communist domination in manufacturing. Something that needed to be done.

>>11460241
Grade A delusion

>>11457445
This dude wasn’t bullshitting

>>11459994
I've heard alot of ads for ZipRecruiter lately on (right wing) talk radio. We seriously have all of 3 stations on the AM band, which is nuts. Anyway, ZipRecuiter, can't believe they're still in business. I applied for IT and software jobs on there for a few years and it came off like a huge scam. They would send these e-mails that made it sound like a company looked at your profile and wanted you to apply to an open position. Yeah, no, never heard from them or any I applied to on my own. I think it's more to feed business delusion over worker "shortages."

>>11460267
Yeah everything sucks right now

>>11457445
>Russia, China, and North Korea
>major powers

>>11460040
>with a population of 217 people, so they're desperate to get people from anywhere to come on down to the local widget factory
lol One of the factories here produces most of the army's trucks

>>11457445
neat, i'm gonna stay home and play with my toys though

>>11460556
There is a shortage of people willing to do it for nothing. If you can't even buy a worthless Marvel Legend on an hour of work, then don't take the job.

>>11457445
Well fuck me you were telling the truth

>>11464555
Damn, guess you cucks gotta die for Israel now.

We’re in a hot war now and nobody realizes it yet because of normalcy bias. I don’t think most of our end of the year preorders are coming in guys.

>>11464889
Gotta revolt for some reason, right?

>>11457445
Oh...