Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:23:25 AM No.11456509
M-M-M-M.A.S.K.
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Thread 11456509 - /toy/ [Archived: 384 hours ago]
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 4:39:18 AM No.11456609
Best thread on 4Chan.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:15:33 AM No.11456649
>What does this vehicle turn into?
>Another vehicle!
What an underwhelming toyline, one of the least interesting big 80's lines. No wonder it could never get a relaunch
>Another vehicle!
What an underwhelming toyline, one of the least interesting big 80's lines. No wonder it could never get a relaunch
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:03:09 AM No.11456709
>>11456509 (OP)
My dad had a couple of these that he let me destroy as a toddler. Were they worth anything?
My dad had a couple of these that he let me destroy as a toddler. Were they worth anything?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:08:40 AM No.11456713
>tfw chewing on one of the masks
I wish I could remember which one it was
I wish I could remember which one it was
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:18:27 AM No.11456719
>>11456649
It would make a great Lego theme. Some of the transformations are hokey (e.g. whatever the semi turns into), but the good transformations are great.
It would make a great Lego theme. Some of the transformations are hokey (e.g. whatever the semi turns into), but the good transformations are great.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:19:20 AM No.11456753
>>11456509 (OP)
Some of them were cool. But then you had some incredibly boring ones that just had a gun or something show up or the doors just open.
Some of them were cool. But then you had some incredibly boring ones that just had a gun or something show up or the doors just open.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:35:44 PM No.11456936
>>11456649
It wasnt just a vehicle, but with guns or can fly. The bigger problem are cars that leave a hull behind.
Gator is nice turning into a boat. But the car vessel should turn into a base too.
It wasnt just a vehicle, but with guns or can fly. The bigger problem are cars that leave a hull behind.
Gator is nice turning into a boat. But the car vessel should turn into a base too.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 12:39:01 PM No.11456938
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:05:32 PM No.11456974
>>11456649
I've checked out every tie-in media for MASK they had in the '80s and all of them were awful, so I don't think you're wrong there. The concept makes for a cool toy but you can't put enough sense into it to squeeze an actual story out of it.
Which coincidentally is a problem it shares with the Pretenders from Transformers; they make sense as toys (toys that disguise themselves as other toys) but any attempt to make sense out of it within fiction is going to fall flat.
But then, Masterforce made the Pretenders cool so maybe it's just a skill issue.
I've checked out every tie-in media for MASK they had in the '80s and all of them were awful, so I don't think you're wrong there. The concept makes for a cool toy but you can't put enough sense into it to squeeze an actual story out of it.
Which coincidentally is a problem it shares with the Pretenders from Transformers; they make sense as toys (toys that disguise themselves as other toys) but any attempt to make sense out of it within fiction is going to fall flat.
But then, Masterforce made the Pretenders cool so maybe it's just a skill issue.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:14:48 PM No.11457040
>>11456974
>they make sense as toys (toys that disguise themselves as other toys)
That's one thing that could lend itself well to Habsro's attempts at making their own IP universe- pretender shells are how they can interact with GI Joe/Visionaries/MASK/ROM/Inhumanoids, etc-- problem is Transformers fans generally hate all of those other IPs and don't want the TF line interacting with them anyway, so it's moot.
>they make sense as toys (toys that disguise themselves as other toys)
That's one thing that could lend itself well to Habsro's attempts at making their own IP universe- pretender shells are how they can interact with GI Joe/Visionaries/MASK/ROM/Inhumanoids, etc-- problem is Transformers fans generally hate all of those other IPs and don't want the TF line interacting with them anyway, so it's moot.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 3:18:06 PM No.11457045
>>11457040
>Transformers fans generally hate all of those other IPs and don't want the TF line interacting with them anywa
Transformers fans are gay who cares what they want.
>Transformers fans generally hate all of those other IPs and don't want the TF line interacting with them anywa
Transformers fans are gay who cares what they want.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:02:29 PM No.11457118
I'n not optimistic on the Loyal Subjects line, if it ever comes out. Prices will be 2X what they warrant. John Warden even said Hasbro licensed out brands they consider "otherwise unprofitable" to Loyal Subjects which is not a vote of confidence.
>>11456649
They tried in the 90s, but due to Hasbro having toy rights to The Mask at the time, they renamed it so it went unnoticed.
>>11456649
They tried in the 90s, but due to Hasbro having toy rights to The Mask at the time, they renamed it so it went unnoticed.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:04:53 PM No.11457120
>>11457045
TF fans also take it up the rear. No class-action lawsuit over poor QC because they'd rather be beaten than ignored. "I'd rather have a broken Omega Prime than no toy at all, BE THANKFUL!". But we've seen how brainless the Hasbro-obsesses /toy/ trolls are, they are not capable of rational thought.
TF fans also take it up the rear. No class-action lawsuit over poor QC because they'd rather be beaten than ignored. "I'd rather have a broken Omega Prime than no toy at all, BE THANKFUL!". But we've seen how brainless the Hasbro-obsesses /toy/ trolls are, they are not capable of rational thought.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:06:03 PM No.11457122
>>11457040
Tomy also can't market most of that overseas, so we only ever see crossovers in US-specific media like comics.
Tomy also can't market most of that overseas, so we only ever see crossovers in US-specific media like comics.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:45:28 PM No.11457442
>>11457399
The UK comics I never got very far into because they did it in this annoying anthology format where each issue has four stories running simultaneously and each is followed up in the next, meaning if you want to read them in any sort of coherent order you have to keep jumping back and forth between issues which was super annoying.
That said, the UK comic held some promise; it's the only place that actually depicts the backstory of Miles betraying Trakker and stealing the plans to the vehicles (and I think he also killed his brother?) but even that felt super rushed because it all happens in like a single page or two.
However, it definitely takes the setting a lot less seriously, there's this couple of pages I saw that I haven't been able to track down the source of where Miles has his mask on in a bathtub and Cliff shows him the life-size mannequin off Matt Trakker he'd ordered so he'd have something other than Cliff to punch for a change, leading to a scene of Cliff pointing out how it looks just like the real Matt Trakker "out there" while looking out of the window, and Miles realizes they're under siege.
The UK comics I never got very far into because they did it in this annoying anthology format where each issue has four stories running simultaneously and each is followed up in the next, meaning if you want to read them in any sort of coherent order you have to keep jumping back and forth between issues which was super annoying.
That said, the UK comic held some promise; it's the only place that actually depicts the backstory of Miles betraying Trakker and stealing the plans to the vehicles (and I think he also killed his brother?) but even that felt super rushed because it all happens in like a single page or two.
However, it definitely takes the setting a lot less seriously, there's this couple of pages I saw that I haven't been able to track down the source of where Miles has his mask on in a bathtub and Cliff shows him the life-size mannequin off Matt Trakker he'd ordered so he'd have something other than Cliff to punch for a change, leading to a scene of Cliff pointing out how it looks just like the real Matt Trakker "out there" while looking out of the window, and Miles realizes they're under siege.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:57:01 PM No.11457449
>>11457120
Name me the last time a class action against some big corpo ever actually lead to positive change, that is, if it even avoided getting shitcanned by the court
Name me the last time a class action against some big corpo ever actually lead to positive change, that is, if it even avoided getting shitcanned by the court
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:28:42 AM No.11457483
>>11456974
I think my gripe with the M.A.S.K. cartoon (speaking as someone who didn't grow up on the 80's) compared to G1 Transformers, GI Joe, TMNT, etc is how little character driven the plots are (from what I saw) in comparison to those shows are
There's no real focus episode for individual members of the team since Matt Trakker's the one who summons them to show up in the episode to begin with.
They might have a quip here or two differentiating them but we don't get to spend much time knowing them to the extent of say, Beachcomber in The Golden Lagoon
I think my gripe with the M.A.S.K. cartoon (speaking as someone who didn't grow up on the 80's) compared to G1 Transformers, GI Joe, TMNT, etc is how little character driven the plots are (from what I saw) in comparison to those shows are
There's no real focus episode for individual members of the team since Matt Trakker's the one who summons them to show up in the episode to begin with.
They might have a quip here or two differentiating them but we don't get to spend much time knowing them to the extent of say, Beachcomber in The Golden Lagoon
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:35:00 AM No.11457492
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:35:33 AM No.11457493
>>11457483
The MASK cartoon was just a crappier Jonny Quest.
It was just the adventure of the week, except it was literally THE adventure of the week. It was the exact same adventure, every week, just in a different location.
I actually dropped it like 40 episodes in because I realized nothing ever fucking changed. The only episode I can even remember is the statue of liberty one, because at least that one actually DID do something different! I did eventually pick it back up and then season 2 came along with the racing theme, and I was like "thank god something's finally different" except now it was STILL the same fucking adventure of the week every week, just with racing stripes!
The MASK cartoon was just a crappier Jonny Quest.
It was just the adventure of the week, except it was literally THE adventure of the week. It was the exact same adventure, every week, just in a different location.
I actually dropped it like 40 episodes in because I realized nothing ever fucking changed. The only episode I can even remember is the statue of liberty one, because at least that one actually DID do something different! I did eventually pick it back up and then season 2 came along with the racing theme, and I was like "thank god something's finally different" except now it was STILL the same fucking adventure of the week every week, just with racing stripes!
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 1:22:45 AM No.11457525
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:24:52 AM No.11457587
>>11457118
>Hasbro licensed out brands they consider "otherwise unprofitable" to Loyal Subjects which is not a vote of confidence.
To be fair, giant companies like Hasbro consider making 10 million dollars in profit as "unprofitable" because they're wasting resources (workers, factory time, etc) that could be used to make cheapcrap that sells in the hundreds of millions range instead.
So a small company like Loyal Subjects would triple in size if they only made 10 million dollars from Mask toys.
And just to note, a lot of successful toylines don't even make a million dollars. Companies like NECA and Good Smile are happy when they sell 50k units of one of their figures. With retail's cut, that's not even a million dollars in revenue for them.
>Hasbro licensed out brands they consider "otherwise unprofitable" to Loyal Subjects which is not a vote of confidence.
To be fair, giant companies like Hasbro consider making 10 million dollars in profit as "unprofitable" because they're wasting resources (workers, factory time, etc) that could be used to make cheapcrap that sells in the hundreds of millions range instead.
So a small company like Loyal Subjects would triple in size if they only made 10 million dollars from Mask toys.
And just to note, a lot of successful toylines don't even make a million dollars. Companies like NECA and Good Smile are happy when they sell 50k units of one of their figures. With retail's cut, that's not even a million dollars in revenue for them.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:03:54 PM No.11457985
>>11457118
>John Warden even said Hasbro licensed out brands they consider "otherwise unprofitable" to Loyal Subjects which is not a vote of confidence.
I mean, that's how licensing works
>John Warden even said Hasbro licensed out brands they consider "otherwise unprofitable" to Loyal Subjects which is not a vote of confidence.
I mean, that's how licensing works
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:00:16 PM No.11458129
>>11456974
The cartoon is well done. Till the race storyline. They needed and wanted those racing car toys and had to come up with a story.
I read some comics and i remember they were on par with GI Joe.
It wasnt as good as superhero comics from DC or Marvel in that time but still you sound exaggerating it.
The cartoon is well done. Till the race storyline. They needed and wanted those racing car toys and had to come up with a story.
I read some comics and i remember they were on par with GI Joe.
It wasnt as good as superhero comics from DC or Marvel in that time but still you sound exaggerating it.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:50:32 PM No.11458228
>>11458129
Probably, but they all fall victim to the same problem where VENOM never comes across as an actual serious threat. The UK comic at least seems to recognize that and runs more with the comedy angle.
Personally I think they should've just gone with a completely different lore. Go with some kind of James Bond-esque superspy thing. VENOM are supposed to be mercenaries but we pretty much never see anybody actually hire their services. Instead of making them the butt of the joke, have them play second fiddle to a villain of the week/month and then make a timely exit from the scene when the situation is no longer favorable to them (and at least sometimes with their payroll too), that way you can have them as bad guys but not totally undermine them as a threat.
Probably, but they all fall victim to the same problem where VENOM never comes across as an actual serious threat. The UK comic at least seems to recognize that and runs more with the comedy angle.
Personally I think they should've just gone with a completely different lore. Go with some kind of James Bond-esque superspy thing. VENOM are supposed to be mercenaries but we pretty much never see anybody actually hire their services. Instead of making them the butt of the joke, have them play second fiddle to a villain of the week/month and then make a timely exit from the scene when the situation is no longer favorable to them (and at least sometimes with their payroll too), that way you can have them as bad guys but not totally undermine them as a threat.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:47:25 PM No.11458528
>>11458228
But thats the problem you have when your target audience are kids. The same as Cobra or Megatron.
There is space above them, but it is rather hard to raise the stakes while keep it kids friendly.
But thats the problem you have when your target audience are kids. The same as Cobra or Megatron.
There is space above them, but it is rather hard to raise the stakes while keep it kids friendly.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:57:24 PM No.11458541
>>11458528
I wanted to put it down to nostalgia bias, but, I had some issues of the Marvel MASK comic as kid too and since I had enjoyed Transformers so much, I had high expectations for MASK but it just didn't live up to them.
I wanted to put it down to nostalgia bias, but, I had some issues of the Marvel MASK comic as kid too and since I had enjoyed Transformers so much, I had high expectations for MASK but it just didn't live up to them.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:45:27 PM No.11458586
>>11456509 (OP)
When you think of them as James Bond-esque spy cars with hidden gadgets, they're pretty sick. The problem they had was they were in direct competition with Transformers. Popping a car's doors and pretending it can fly by turning the steering wheel suddenly feels a bit lame when the car a few shelves down can turn into a fucking Gundam.
When you think of them as James Bond-esque spy cars with hidden gadgets, they're pretty sick. The problem they had was they were in direct competition with Transformers. Popping a car's doors and pretending it can fly by turning the steering wheel suddenly feels a bit lame when the car a few shelves down can turn into a fucking Gundam.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:29:46 AM No.11458722
>>11458586
Speaking as a child from the 80s, I never saw MASK as a competitor to Transformers.
It's like you said, it's actually more James Bond-esque and most kids actually viewed it more similar to Knight Rider.
I'm sure you have no idea who Knight Rider is, but it was super popular with kids, despite KITT not even being 1/10th as cool as the transforming, heavily armed MASK cars.
Not everything had to be transforming giant robots back in the day and kids had a variety of interests. In fact, Transformers wasn't as popular as you think it was back then, so comparing it to Transformers kinda falls flat. He-Man and GI Joe were bigger franchises.
Speaking as a child from the 80s, I never saw MASK as a competitor to Transformers.
It's like you said, it's actually more James Bond-esque and most kids actually viewed it more similar to Knight Rider.
I'm sure you have no idea who Knight Rider is, but it was super popular with kids, despite KITT not even being 1/10th as cool as the transforming, heavily armed MASK cars.
Not everything had to be transforming giant robots back in the day and kids had a variety of interests. In fact, Transformers wasn't as popular as you think it was back then, so comparing it to Transformers kinda falls flat. He-Man and GI Joe were bigger franchises.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:57:54 AM No.11458732
>>11457040
>Transformers fans generally hate all of those other IPs and don't want the TF line interacting with them anyway, so it's moot.
Transformers have been crossing over with other shit for decades, and fans have been fine with it.
What didn't work was the massive garbage dump of everything at once they tried in the IDW comics
which were faggy enough on IP's in general let alone smashing them all together.
>Transformers fans generally hate all of those other IPs and don't want the TF line interacting with them anyway, so it's moot.
Transformers have been crossing over with other shit for decades, and fans have been fine with it.
What didn't work was the massive garbage dump of everything at once they tried in the IDW comics
which were faggy enough on IP's in general let alone smashing them all together.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:02:47 AM No.11458736
The cartoon is okay, if formulaic, better written than most 80s toons but its not a high bar to clear in that regard as most 80s cartoons are kinda awful. Better animation, they hoped to maybe dub it in Japan. Vanessa is hot, unlikecthat trend so many 80s toons did of making females bony & ugly, because copying Cruella Deville was how most cartoons told the audience "this woman is evil!"
>>11457985
Okay so then George Lucas saw Star Wars as unprofitable and let Kenner/Hasbro do the toys instead... right, /toy/ retardation...
>>11457985
Okay so then George Lucas saw Star Wars as unprofitable and let Kenner/Hasbro do the toys instead... right, /toy/ retardation...
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:52:28 AM No.11459002
>>11458736
George Lucas doesn't make his own toys
Hasbro licensing out M.A.S.K. is like SEGA and Sony licensing their games out to other publishers
George Lucas doesn't make his own toys
Hasbro licensing out M.A.S.K. is like SEGA and Sony licensing their games out to other publishers
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:30:31 PM No.11459249
I'm pessimistic on Loyal Subjects even being in business long enough to get these out. They've released very few new products this year with it looking like several lines are canned after 1 toy came out. MASK gets a new teaser every week but just digital render shots, when they had hardcopy test shots at Toy Fair. Still no solid yes/no on chrome parts, the prices look set to kill the line because who aside from nostalgia freaks will pay the $125 asking price for Rhino? That's above commander class pricing for a truck that unfolds a few panels. And naturally do not expect Hasbro to push any new media with it that might sell the brand.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:43:06 AM No.11459693
>>11459249
Companies tend to hold off information for important events. USually there's no announcements for 4/5 months leading to Toy Fair.
Same shit can be happening for San Diego Comic Con.
Also, Loyal Subjects used to release even fewer shit before. So they could be returning back to normal. I mean, when you lose a license, especially a small company, you don't have a lot to fall back on. So hopefully they made enough money from TMNT that they have enough reserves to continue going during these tariff times.
Companies tend to hold off information for important events. USually there's no announcements for 4/5 months leading to Toy Fair.
Same shit can be happening for San Diego Comic Con.
Also, Loyal Subjects used to release even fewer shit before. So they could be returning back to normal. I mean, when you lose a license, especially a small company, you don't have a lot to fall back on. So hopefully they made enough money from TMNT that they have enough reserves to continue going during these tariff times.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:46:07 AM No.11459694
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:38:38 AM No.11459789
>>11456944
>Teammates get cars that turn into boats or cars that fly.
>You get stuck with car that....gets to stand up on stilts for some reason
MASK really made it known when they had a bitch member of the team huh?
>Teammates get cars that turn into boats or cars that fly.
>You get stuck with car that....gets to stand up on stilts for some reason
MASK really made it known when they had a bitch member of the team huh?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:46:45 AM No.11459793
>>11456753
I think how cool the vehicle was really depended on the character. Sometimes they had something cool like the motorcycle that turned into a helicopter. And sometimes it was boring like the car just had a missile launcher on the door that flipped out. Like some of them were really half assed.
>>11458722
Same, I never thought it was competing with Transformers. More like competing with GI Joe since it was more about guys in vehicles that had guns and missiles all over them. Or really any of the shows where you had guys riding on something over the top and covered in lasers. Like Dino Riders or Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors.
I think how cool the vehicle was really depended on the character. Sometimes they had something cool like the motorcycle that turned into a helicopter. And sometimes it was boring like the car just had a missile launcher on the door that flipped out. Like some of them were really half assed.
>>11458722
Same, I never thought it was competing with Transformers. More like competing with GI Joe since it was more about guys in vehicles that had guns and missiles all over them. Or really any of the shows where you had guys riding on something over the top and covered in lasers. Like Dino Riders or Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:52:39 AM No.11459993
>>11459793
>Like Dino Riders or Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors.
Yeah, these types of toys were pretty popular back then. Maybe not best sellers, but there were a lot of toylines like this back then.
>Like Dino Riders or Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors.
Yeah, these types of toys were pretty popular back then. Maybe not best sellers, but there were a lot of toylines like this back then.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:14:22 AM No.11460000
Why are boomers obsessed with bringing back these shows no one cares about? It's gonna kill toy retail if they keep doing this.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:54:32 PM No.11460252
>still only digital renders
The final product is gonna be a letdown
The final product is gonna be a letdown
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:30:22 PM No.11460291
>>11460252
The digital box art and supposed first wave are available. No venom in wave one which is odd, id like to see the figures too before i get excited but right now im hopeful. Ive bought their starwberry shortcake and rainbow brite as gifts and i guess they were well recieved but those arent action figures.
The digital box art and supposed first wave are available. No venom in wave one which is odd, id like to see the figures too before i get excited but right now im hopeful. Ive bought their starwberry shortcake and rainbow brite as gifts and i guess they were well recieved but those arent action figures.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:10:32 AM No.11460725
>>11458736
>Vanessa is hot, unlike that trend so many 80s toons did of making females bony & ugly
Dude, have you watched any 80's cartoons? Hot female villains was a pretty common thing.
>Vanessa is hot, unlike that trend so many 80s toons did of making females bony & ugly
Dude, have you watched any 80's cartoons? Hot female villains was a pretty common thing.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:01:33 PM No.11460945
https://youtu.be/nk9fvidgeRU?feature=shared
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:49:13 PM No.11461027
>>11460000
Nostalgia cares about them. You could blame that the companies dont make new IPs anymore. So people get nostalgic for the old ones.
And it is an interesting concept.
>>11460945
Looks cool. But a little bit too many guns. And the batteries? The content is a little bit over the top.
Nostalgia cares about them. You could blame that the companies dont make new IPs anymore. So people get nostalgic for the old ones.
And it is an interesting concept.
>>11460945
Looks cool. But a little bit too many guns. And the batteries? The content is a little bit over the top.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:54:34 PM No.11461029
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:45:29 PM No.11461178
>>11460725
Baroness and Zarana are perhaps exceptions. Ever seen She-Ra? Catra could cut someone on her bony cheeks
Baroness and Zarana are perhaps exceptions. Ever seen She-Ra? Catra could cut someone on her bony cheeks
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:54:05 PM No.11461183
>>11460291
This is a problem lately with Loyal Subjects. They put out a nistalgia brand, it sells well, then no follow-up waves so sales stall. It's like just making Leonardo with only a vague "we might make Donatello next at some point, maybe" hope. Funny that since BST AXN punped out entire waves but now they just do not try.
>>11461027
Problem with nostalgia brands is often a kack of new media. Some 40-something remembers it? Fine. But the only media push is the old cartoon on streaming, buried deep in the listings, of a cartoon that aged like milk in the desert sun. I can barely stand to watch most 80s cartoons, they jave samey plots and suffered from 10 writers at a time pimping out enough episodes per season to fill 5 seasons of most shows(the standard 65-episode order of the time) with really bad animation quality. You know why Batman the Animated Series was such a hit when it came out? The quality was easily 10x that of what the 80s gave us.
This is a problem lately with Loyal Subjects. They put out a nistalgia brand, it sells well, then no follow-up waves so sales stall. It's like just making Leonardo with only a vague "we might make Donatello next at some point, maybe" hope. Funny that since BST AXN punped out entire waves but now they just do not try.
>>11461027
Problem with nostalgia brands is often a kack of new media. Some 40-something remembers it? Fine. But the only media push is the old cartoon on streaming, buried deep in the listings, of a cartoon that aged like milk in the desert sun. I can barely stand to watch most 80s cartoons, they jave samey plots and suffered from 10 writers at a time pimping out enough episodes per season to fill 5 seasons of most shows(the standard 65-episode order of the time) with really bad animation quality. You know why Batman the Animated Series was such a hit when it came out? The quality was easily 10x that of what the 80s gave us.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:10:12 PM No.11461915
>>11461183
I think most 80s cartoon episode do really well. When you watch Ninjago or other cartoons they are similar in writing. What you mean is that you can see that the cartoons are very flanderozed and aimed at 5 tp 10 year olds.
I think most 80s cartoon episode do really well. When you watch Ninjago or other cartoons they are similar in writing. What you mean is that you can see that the cartoons are very flanderozed and aimed at 5 tp 10 year olds.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:39:55 PM No.11461941
>>11461915
>What you mean
No, what I mean is 80s toy commercials don't hold up and have terrible writing.
>What you mean
No, what I mean is 80s toy commercials don't hold up and have terrible writing.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:25:27 PM No.11462052
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 11:05:34 PM No.11462340
>>11461941
Well played!
Well played!
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:14:04 AM No.11462683
I feel like M.A.S.K. as a gimmick is too limited
There's only oh so many ways to have guns stick out of a regular car to stay fresh
There's only oh so many ways to have guns stick out of a regular car to stay fresh
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Anonymous
6/20/2025, 7:47:43 AM No.11462715
Ramen toys just posted this on FB, new Makina scale apparently.
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 3:45:53 PM No.11462982
>>11462683
You could argue that with any toy. How many dolls, action figures, matchbox cars, green army men or dinosaurs do you need?
But i agree that you could add morevgimmicks than just guns.
You could argue that with any toy. How many dolls, action figures, matchbox cars, green army men or dinosaurs do you need?
But i agree that you could add morevgimmicks than just guns.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:11:35 PM No.11465143
>>11462683
It's cool when it is a vehicle that transforms into a different type of vehicle. Like the cars that transform into planes and fly, or the ones that turns into a boat.
Some are kind of redundant like the helicopter that turns into a plane, it should do something else that's not just flying but faster. Like become a sub and go underwater.
Then the later models were just cars that unfolded out secret lasers in the tailpipes or behind doors. That seems way too lazy compared to things that fully transformed.
It's cool when it is a vehicle that transforms into a different type of vehicle. Like the cars that transform into planes and fly, or the ones that turns into a boat.
Some are kind of redundant like the helicopter that turns into a plane, it should do something else that's not just flying but faster. Like become a sub and go underwater.
Then the later models were just cars that unfolded out secret lasers in the tailpipes or behind doors. That seems way too lazy compared to things that fully transformed.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 2:14:08 AM No.11465487
I honestly love these designs
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6/23/2025, 2:30:38 AM No.11465497
>>11459993
Starcom is a toyline that could easily get a great update. Increase them to 4" figures, keep the magnet and wind-up gimmicks, and you'd have a winner.
Starcom is a toyline that could easily get a great update. Increase them to 4" figures, keep the magnet and wind-up gimmicks, and you'd have a winner.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 7:47:24 PM No.11466311
>Trump's war for his Jewish masters is gonna choke the oil supply and these get canned because no plastic to even make them
This is the future Jew chose, MAGA
This is the future Jew chose, MAGA
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 8:25:28 PM No.11466375
>>11465487
I think they look too busy and too much like a Bayformer style.
But i like the idea of incorporating emergency related vehicles or characters.
I think they look too busy and too much like a Bayformer style.
But i like the idea of incorporating emergency related vehicles or characters.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 9:32:36 PM No.11466468
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6/23/2025, 9:49:40 PM No.11466498
>>11466468
Goku would vaporize Detroit and wished it back with the dragon balls with the stipulation that only the good souls get to come back. (Everyone who was sent to hell or are going to be sent to hell aren't revived) Detroit becomes 96% white and prosperous.
Goku would vaporize Detroit and wished it back with the dragon balls with the stipulation that only the good souls get to come back. (Everyone who was sent to hell or are going to be sent to hell aren't revived) Detroit becomes 96% white and prosperous.
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Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:50:18 PM No.11466567
>>11466440
I meant the humans too. The police vest looks weird too.
I meant the humans too. The police vest looks weird too.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 4:19:37 AM No.11466880
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6/24/2025, 5:12:34 AM No.11466930
>>11466880
>By that point they were already changing the lore entirely, huh?
Not like M.A.S.K. had a deep lore to begin with
>By that point they were already changing the lore entirely, huh?
Not like M.A.S.K. had a deep lore to begin with
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6/24/2025, 12:07:08 PM No.11467212
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:15:56 PM No.11467685
>>11466930
It didn't need to be deep, still big changes, though. Even Matt's mask is completely different.
It didn't need to be deep, still big changes, though. Even Matt's mask is completely different.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 3:18:24 AM No.11468094
I just saw an article about the Loyal Subjects release. I loved MASK as a kid but I only had Stinger and Hurricane. My cousin had most of the series 1 releases and all the series 2 that I didn't. How I coveted them. Anyway, counterpoint to all you negative Nancy's, I'm the mark for this. I will buy this slop.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 6:23:44 AM No.11468295
>>11466498
No he wouldn't, none of the groids are powerful enough to make him say waku waku, he wouldn't carrot all about saving detroit. Maybe you could get Vegeta to do it, that was basically his old job under furieeza-sama.
No he wouldn't, none of the groids are powerful enough to make him say waku waku, he wouldn't carrot all about saving detroit. Maybe you could get Vegeta to do it, that was basically his old job under furieeza-sama.
Anonymous
6/26/2025, 1:27:46 AM No.11469256
The asking prices might be eaten up by nostalgia geeks, but they will shelf warm in stores. No new media to hype these also kills sales.
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6/26/2025, 12:18:04 PM No.11469768
>>11469256
This. Without any emotional response, people, kids, parents will look at the price.
This. Without any emotional response, people, kids, parents will look at the price.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 12:49:50 PM No.11471179
>>11469256
I just came here to see if anyone knew the price of this sdcc/bbts set coming up soon. Im really curious but as a less than wealthy fag i have budget dumb shit like buying toys carefully. Plus id hate to just get this set and then nothing else due to the line failing yknow.
I just came here to see if anyone knew the price of this sdcc/bbts set coming up soon. Im really curious but as a less than wealthy fag i have budget dumb shit like buying toys carefully. Plus id hate to just get this set and then nothing else due to the line failing yknow.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 2:53:35 PM No.11471268
>exclusive just adds silver paint(not chrome) & 2 bonus figures for a hefty markup
I love how every TLS exclusive has managed to piss people off by being too expensive & underwhelming. Its as if the conpany is subtly saying "we're about to fold, here's the last of what we're making" without being blatsnt because I see TLS going under soon without finishing up a single line.
I love how every TLS exclusive has managed to piss people off by being too expensive & underwhelming. Its as if the conpany is subtly saying "we're about to fold, here's the last of what we're making" without being blatsnt because I see TLS going under soon without finishing up a single line.
Anonymous
6/27/2025, 3:18:51 PM No.11471288
I wasn't super into MASK as a kid, but I always thought the logo was amazing. I still remember how it made me feel things the first time I saw the logo. Things that smelled like gasoline and greasy garages. That fucking truck, man.
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6/28/2025, 7:05:49 AM No.11472140
>>11471288
Fun fact, M.A.S.K. had roots originally as a trucker toyline
Fun fact, M.A.S.K. had roots originally as a trucker toyline
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:19:17 PM No.11473326
>>11457493
>The MASK cartoon was just a crappier Jonny Quest.
There is a lot Johnny Quest in mask, yeah. Each episode has a weird little plot about robbing a bank, weapon deals, making off with a new military weapon, etc. Trakker's kid probably gets pulled into some how. They defeat venom and all have a good laugh at the end. Tracker very much is a Dr Quest / Dr Venture
There is also a lot of anime in Mask.
Had some good action scenes in it and the vehicals are drawn more competently than season 1 tranaformers.
The writing is so samey though that it really does not lean well to marathoning.
As an aside, as much as tranaformers fans want to fawn on the whole unicron plot, the episodes of G1 being so fucking random is really what saves that show l. Gobots had a lot of Johnny Quest in it too and it was worse for it.
Its a shame mask didn't do more with itself. The characters and vehicals had pretty good designs. Each character has a personality. It just doesnt go anywhere
>The MASK cartoon was just a crappier Jonny Quest.
There is a lot Johnny Quest in mask, yeah. Each episode has a weird little plot about robbing a bank, weapon deals, making off with a new military weapon, etc. Trakker's kid probably gets pulled into some how. They defeat venom and all have a good laugh at the end. Tracker very much is a Dr Quest / Dr Venture
There is also a lot of anime in Mask.
Had some good action scenes in it and the vehicals are drawn more competently than season 1 tranaformers.
The writing is so samey though that it really does not lean well to marathoning.
As an aside, as much as tranaformers fans want to fawn on the whole unicron plot, the episodes of G1 being so fucking random is really what saves that show l. Gobots had a lot of Johnny Quest in it too and it was worse for it.
Its a shame mask didn't do more with itself. The characters and vehicals had pretty good designs. Each character has a personality. It just doesnt go anywhere
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:25:26 PM No.11473328
>>11458722
>Not everything had to be transforming giant robots back in the day and kids had a variety of interests. In fact, Transformers wasn't as popular as you think it was back then, so comparing it to Transformers kinda falls flat. He-Man and GI Joe were bigger franchises
Transformers was pretty damn popular during season 1 and 2.
But toys were just popular. Parents and kids had a lot more buying power. You could mow a yard and get enough money to buy a half a combiner team
>Not everything had to be transforming giant robots back in the day and kids had a variety of interests. In fact, Transformers wasn't as popular as you think it was back then, so comparing it to Transformers kinda falls flat. He-Man and GI Joe were bigger franchises
Transformers was pretty damn popular during season 1 and 2.
But toys were just popular. Parents and kids had a lot more buying power. You could mow a yard and get enough money to buy a half a combiner team
Anonymous
6/29/2025, 3:31:57 PM No.11473334
>>11459793
>Same, I never thought it was competing with Transformers. More like competing with GI Joe since it was more about guys in vehicles that had guns and missiles all over them. Or really any of the shows where you had guys riding on something over the top and covered in lasers. Like Dino Riders or Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors
Kids never saw this stuff as competitions. You just went to the store and got the characters or vehicals you liked best from whatever line. So you had a couple Joe's, couple Transformers, couple mask cars, etc.
This idea that kids played brand wars with toys is zoomer revisionism. Toys weren't the fucking 90s console wars. Kids watched whatever cartoons were on and got the toys of the characters they liked most, and made up little stories at home when playing
>Same, I never thought it was competing with Transformers. More like competing with GI Joe since it was more about guys in vehicles that had guns and missiles all over them. Or really any of the shows where you had guys riding on something over the top and covered in lasers. Like Dino Riders or Jayce and the Wheeled Warriors
Kids never saw this stuff as competitions. You just went to the store and got the characters or vehicals you liked best from whatever line. So you had a couple Joe's, couple Transformers, couple mask cars, etc.
This idea that kids played brand wars with toys is zoomer revisionism. Toys weren't the fucking 90s console wars. Kids watched whatever cartoons were on and got the toys of the characters they liked most, and made up little stories at home when playing
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 4:01:35 PM No.11473348
>>11473334
Yeah, and kids didn't exclusively collect one or two toylines like adults do today, their toys were a total clusterfuck of whatever they got for christmas, birthday, pocket money, etc.
It's kind of why people can't make sense of the Pretenders either, because they stick them among other Transformers where they stick out like a sore thumb, instead their He-Man, Thundercats and various other large scale action figures they happen to own.
Yeah, and kids didn't exclusively collect one or two toylines like adults do today, their toys were a total clusterfuck of whatever they got for christmas, birthday, pocket money, etc.
It's kind of why people can't make sense of the Pretenders either, because they stick them among other Transformers where they stick out like a sore thumb, instead their He-Man, Thundercats and various other large scale action figures they happen to own.
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Anonymous
6/29/2025, 6:21:30 PM No.11473403
>>11473348
Yeah, people forget tranaformers existed inside a toy ecosystem.
The first wave or say came out to cash in on other metal robots from japan. Shogun Warriors started in 1977 and had a marvel comic.
Mini autobots were inspired by chronoQ / penny racers
Stunticons and Airealbots were meant to be used with hot wheels and other similar sized toy cars. They could be purchased with a few dollars and fit in your pocket.
Transformers would switch to more animal and monster alt forms in response to all the weird animal tmnt figures.battle beasts was also a response to tmnt.
Pretenders were a partial response to tmnt that fell kind of flat. Microbots were a response to micromachines.
Toy companies used to riff on each other and up the anti.
God, it's funny to look back on just how many forgotten toys riffed on tmnt. Barnyard commandos and food fighters come to mind. There was a moment there where they tried to mutate everything into a fighter of some sort. Oh a d army ants.
Yeah, people forget tranaformers existed inside a toy ecosystem.
The first wave or say came out to cash in on other metal robots from japan. Shogun Warriors started in 1977 and had a marvel comic.
Mini autobots were inspired by chronoQ / penny racers
Stunticons and Airealbots were meant to be used with hot wheels and other similar sized toy cars. They could be purchased with a few dollars and fit in your pocket.
Transformers would switch to more animal and monster alt forms in response to all the weird animal tmnt figures.battle beasts was also a response to tmnt.
Pretenders were a partial response to tmnt that fell kind of flat. Microbots were a response to micromachines.
Toy companies used to riff on each other and up the anti.
God, it's funny to look back on just how many forgotten toys riffed on tmnt. Barnyard commandos and food fighters come to mind. There was a moment there where they tried to mutate everything into a fighter of some sort. Oh a d army ants.
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6/30/2025, 7:09:28 AM No.11474115
>>11473403
>God, it's funny to look back on just how many forgotten toys riffed on tmnt.
Stone Protectors
>God, it's funny to look back on just how many forgotten toys riffed on tmnt.
Stone Protectors
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6/30/2025, 2:16:56 PM No.11474360
>>11474115
Stone Protectors was the first time I ever looked at something as a child and thought "now they're just desperate".
Stone Protectors was the first time I ever looked at something as a child and thought "now they're just desperate".
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 3:47:56 PM No.11474417
>>11473326
Good summarize. The plot is very similar. But the fights and which vehicles isfestured is the most important thing. You could argue that any cartoon or Manga is essential the same story.
Good summarize. The plot is very similar. But the fights and which vehicles isfestured is the most important thing. You could argue that any cartoon or Manga is essential the same story.
Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:31:39 PM No.11474507
>>11456509 (OP)
>buys out Kenner
>proceeds to spend the next 30 years burying all of kenner's in house properties (MASK, Vor-Tech, Bone Age, Centurions, Sky Commanders)
>When it finally becomes financially lucrative they drag MASK's decayed husk back out just to allow IDW and Skybound both to reimagine Trakker into a basketball ape
>fucks up the handling of the Batman license so bad Warner had to cut them loose
What the FUCK is their probelm?
>buys out Kenner
>proceeds to spend the next 30 years burying all of kenner's in house properties (MASK, Vor-Tech, Bone Age, Centurions, Sky Commanders)
>When it finally becomes financially lucrative they drag MASK's decayed husk back out just to allow IDW and Skybound both to reimagine Trakker into a basketball ape
>fucks up the handling of the Batman license so bad Warner had to cut them loose
What the FUCK is their probelm?
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:41:41 PM No.11474523
>>11473403
The state of the industry has enforced a really lame anti-competitive status quo. In the late 20th century competition was incessant, companies rose and a fell overnight, trends came and went, dynamism was the name of the game. But now there's none of that. It's the same 6 or 7 brands which have been grandfathered in after decades of continuous reinvention and success competing for the dwindling attention of kids raised by the internet and oldfag collectors. Every so often you see some internet or vidya thing breach that space (Bendy, FNAF, Minecraft, troon circus, etc) but the imagination and wrecklessness of 30-40 years ago is completely gone. Even if you have a pre-existing multimedia prescence ala MOTU it's not enough. Ontop of it all you can just stand to import a fuckload of off brand chinese product for the holiday season.
These are just some of the reasons why we dont see any more copycatting within the industry anymore. It really sucks how stagnant things have gotten.
The state of the industry has enforced a really lame anti-competitive status quo. In the late 20th century competition was incessant, companies rose and a fell overnight, trends came and went, dynamism was the name of the game. But now there's none of that. It's the same 6 or 7 brands which have been grandfathered in after decades of continuous reinvention and success competing for the dwindling attention of kids raised by the internet and oldfag collectors. Every so often you see some internet or vidya thing breach that space (Bendy, FNAF, Minecraft, troon circus, etc) but the imagination and wrecklessness of 30-40 years ago is completely gone. Even if you have a pre-existing multimedia prescence ala MOTU it's not enough. Ontop of it all you can just stand to import a fuckload of off brand chinese product for the holiday season.
These are just some of the reasons why we dont see any more copycatting within the industry anymore. It really sucks how stagnant things have gotten.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 5:48:39 PM No.11474531
>>11473326
I'd argue GoBots gets more mileage out of its Quest-isms than MASK. I can sit through maybe one or two MASK episodes a day, anything more than that and I get burnt out. With Gobots however there's this energetic plucky quality I dont ever tire of. It can get a bit Tin Tin esque at times in how expansive one episode's adventure can get.
Transformers by comparison always had much more of a rough and tumble quality to it. Even if the premise of the episode is pants on head retarded, the autobots are going to militarily manuever their way through the issue by shooting the shit out of it and asking questions later. It's plain to see how much DNA they share with the Joes.
Gobots is much more earnest and lighthearted. The episodes that ignore Gobotron make for some of the best viewings because they all adopt this Scooby Doo/Peabody and Sherman approach overtime. They'll run into the weirdest and most random situations (a wizard from an alternate dimension, a native american shaman, an alien from a dying world) and Gobot hijinx will ensue as they try to resolve the issue at hand.
I'd argue GoBots gets more mileage out of its Quest-isms than MASK. I can sit through maybe one or two MASK episodes a day, anything more than that and I get burnt out. With Gobots however there's this energetic plucky quality I dont ever tire of. It can get a bit Tin Tin esque at times in how expansive one episode's adventure can get.
Transformers by comparison always had much more of a rough and tumble quality to it. Even if the premise of the episode is pants on head retarded, the autobots are going to militarily manuever their way through the issue by shooting the shit out of it and asking questions later. It's plain to see how much DNA they share with the Joes.
Gobots is much more earnest and lighthearted. The episodes that ignore Gobotron make for some of the best viewings because they all adopt this Scooby Doo/Peabody and Sherman approach overtime. They'll run into the weirdest and most random situations (a wizard from an alternate dimension, a native american shaman, an alien from a dying world) and Gobot hijinx will ensue as they try to resolve the issue at hand.
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Anonymous
6/30/2025, 7:23:28 PM No.11474637
>>11474507
Apparently black Trakker was a Hasbro idea
Apparently black Trakker was a Hasbro idea
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7/2/2025, 4:52:19 AM No.11476317
>>11474531
>Transformers by comparison always had much more of a rough and tumble quality to it. Even if the premise of the episode is pants on head retarded, the autobots are going to militarily manuever their way through the issue by shooting the shit out of it and asking questions later. It's plain to see how much DNA they share with the Joes.
Tranaformers also had a lot of weird shit. Like that episode where they turn part of prime into a gater or send galvatron to a mental health planet
>Transformers by comparison always had much more of a rough and tumble quality to it. Even if the premise of the episode is pants on head retarded, the autobots are going to militarily manuever their way through the issue by shooting the shit out of it and asking questions later. It's plain to see how much DNA they share with the Joes.
Tranaformers also had a lot of weird shit. Like that episode where they turn part of prime into a gater or send galvatron to a mental health planet
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Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:12:20 PM No.11476612
>$125 for a truck with a few folding doors
>"We're a small conpany"
Fuck off
>"We're a small conpany"
Fuck off
Anonymous
7/2/2025, 1:22:14 PM No.11476618
Wave 2 will not happen. Literally nothing outside of BST AXN TMNT from this conpany has had a wave 2. Nostalgia stuff from literally 12 months ago has had nothing new. They're radio silent on nearly everything but MASK these days.the6 made a Jem doll that's piling up at my local Walmart, no one who remembers that wants it because it's a one-off without her band, for a brand no one really remembers anyway so anyone not nostalgic doesn't know who the character is, which is a big problem for their stuff because it's becoming obscure shit few people remember. They lack modern licenses.
>>11474507
You forgot to scream "but I'm not a racist". And you'll buy Hasbro "woke" garbage rgardless, huh?
>>11474523
>"Troon"
Opinion discarded
>>11474507
You forgot to scream "but I'm not a racist". And you'll buy Hasbro "woke" garbage rgardless, huh?
>>11474523
>"Troon"
Opinion discarded
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7/2/2025, 4:51:49 PM No.11476797
>>11476618
>Wave 2 will not happen. Literally nothing outside of BST AXN TMNT from this conpany has had a wave 2. Nostalgia stuff from literally 12 months ago has had nothing new. They're radio silent on nearly everything but MASK these days.the6 made a Jem doll that's piling up at my local Walmart, no one who remembers that wants it because it's a one-off without her band, for a brand no one really remembers anyway so anyone not nostalgic doesn't know who the character is, which is a big problem for their stuff because it's becoming obscure shit few people remember. They lack modern licenses.
People love jem. But women that grew up with it mostly do not collect toys. They will go look at the toys and talk about them with their friends while having coffee and cake and talking about their next trip to Orlando.
Every girls relaunch from the 80s Peters out before it finishes. 80s MLP never finishes. Never gets to the playsets. Has to depend on cross overs wirh boy brands and random shit like board games. Strawberry shortcake never finishes. Rainbow Brite never finishes. They have had some luck wirh thr $5 static figs at five below BUT a lot of that is women buying rainbow and strawberry and leaving the rest.
You know who is probably buying that jem doll? 40 year old men to mix with their 80s toy display.
Loyal subjects needs to press on and put out boy favorites like the Misfits. And some playsets with a stage and cameras and mics and speakers. They should go all in on Gen y men who do displays.
No one can depend on women for sales.
>Wave 2 will not happen. Literally nothing outside of BST AXN TMNT from this conpany has had a wave 2. Nostalgia stuff from literally 12 months ago has had nothing new. They're radio silent on nearly everything but MASK these days.the6 made a Jem doll that's piling up at my local Walmart, no one who remembers that wants it because it's a one-off without her band, for a brand no one really remembers anyway so anyone not nostalgic doesn't know who the character is, which is a big problem for their stuff because it's becoming obscure shit few people remember. They lack modern licenses.
People love jem. But women that grew up with it mostly do not collect toys. They will go look at the toys and talk about them with their friends while having coffee and cake and talking about their next trip to Orlando.
Every girls relaunch from the 80s Peters out before it finishes. 80s MLP never finishes. Never gets to the playsets. Has to depend on cross overs wirh boy brands and random shit like board games. Strawberry shortcake never finishes. Rainbow Brite never finishes. They have had some luck wirh thr $5 static figs at five below BUT a lot of that is women buying rainbow and strawberry and leaving the rest.
You know who is probably buying that jem doll? 40 year old men to mix with their 80s toy display.
Loyal subjects needs to press on and put out boy favorites like the Misfits. And some playsets with a stage and cameras and mics and speakers. They should go all in on Gen y men who do displays.
No one can depend on women for sales.
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7/3/2025, 1:22:53 AM No.11477224
As serierous as i was about wanting to get in on these i just wont pay the price. Ill just buy classified vehicles and figures at 5his price point.
No fuckin wondor i only had condor as a kid, you gotta have mask money to play the game. These arent good prices, regardless of company size. Oh well, i was really hopeful for a solid reboot.
No fuckin wondor i only had condor as a kid, you gotta have mask money to play the game. These arent good prices, regardless of company size. Oh well, i was really hopeful for a solid reboot.
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7/3/2025, 12:19:08 PM No.11477682
>>11476797
>No one can depend on women for sales.
Thats like any bigger target group you focus or define.
Boys or men have so many different hobbies choices too that you compete with them over the spending money they have.
>>11477224
The problem is that there is too much competition, people have less money to spend, small consumer group means expensive prices and the company wants to make 300% profit.
>No one can depend on women for sales.
Thats like any bigger target group you focus or define.
Boys or men have so many different hobbies choices too that you compete with them over the spending money they have.
>>11477224
The problem is that there is too much competition, people have less money to spend, small consumer group means expensive prices and the company wants to make 300% profit.
Anonymous
7/3/2025, 11:00:56 PM No.11478232
>>11474637
No, it was 100% Chris Ryall (head of IDW). Ryall was a woke shitstain who made a huge deal about "too many white guys" and that Matt and Duke were too similar and Matt had to be made into a nigger since Duke was going to be the leader of GI Joe.... Which was a bold face lie as Ryall and fellow workers Aubrey Sitterson promptly, within weeks of saying this, announced Scarlet was going to be the face of the GI Joe franchise and even rebranded the Joe title "Scarlet Strike Force". And for added shits and giggles refused to use ANY of the minority MASK members and race swapped Gloria into a dark as one can get without being black skinned Hispanic and turned Sly Rax from a white mustachioed biker into a clean shaven 19 year old Asian twink straight out of a Kpop boy band.
And Nigger Tracker's return at Image is due to Kirkman being bitter as fuck that his bestie friend Sitterson got blackballed from ever working on a Hasbro property property.>>11476317
No, it was 100% Chris Ryall (head of IDW). Ryall was a woke shitstain who made a huge deal about "too many white guys" and that Matt and Duke were too similar and Matt had to be made into a nigger since Duke was going to be the leader of GI Joe.... Which was a bold face lie as Ryall and fellow workers Aubrey Sitterson promptly, within weeks of saying this, announced Scarlet was going to be the face of the GI Joe franchise and even rebranded the Joe title "Scarlet Strike Force". And for added shits and giggles refused to use ANY of the minority MASK members and race swapped Gloria into a dark as one can get without being black skinned Hispanic and turned Sly Rax from a white mustachioed biker into a clean shaven 19 year old Asian twink straight out of a Kpop boy band.
And Nigger Tracker's return at Image is due to Kirkman being bitter as fuck that his bestie friend Sitterson got blackballed from ever working on a Hasbro property property.>>11476317
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7/4/2025, 2:31:35 AM No.11478463
>>11478232
>And for added shits and giggles refused to use ANY of the minority MASK members
They had Julio
>And for added shits and giggles refused to use ANY of the minority MASK members
They had Julio
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 5:36:24 AM No.11478640
Really weird to race swap mask characters when the show was filled women and nonwhite men.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 6:13:43 AM No.11478706
She really was cute. Glad I never sold mine
Anonymous
7/4/2025, 9:03:48 AM No.11479014
>>11478640
Eh, he's not unsalvageable but characters like Sato (in the show at least) leaned heavily on the stereotypes.
Hondo's pretty cool.
Nevada Rushmore's a fucking trainwreck.
Eh, he's not unsalvageable but characters like Sato (in the show at least) leaned heavily on the stereotypes.
Hondo's pretty cool.
Nevada Rushmore's a fucking trainwreck.
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Anonymous
7/4/2025, 3:27:16 PM No.11479371
>>11479014
>Nevada Rushmore's a fucking trainwreck
Yes. But they also allowed him to have the most attractive build for a man.
Thinking about it, they made most of the men and women attractive and fit. I guess they were trying to pull in that GI Joe money. Joe's were all fit because military.
Was Miles and Alex the only two members slightly on the heavier side? I guess max too.
>Nevada Rushmore's a fucking trainwreck
Yes. But they also allowed him to have the most attractive build for a man.
Thinking about it, they made most of the men and women attractive and fit. I guess they were trying to pull in that GI Joe money. Joe's were all fit because military.
Was Miles and Alex the only two members slightly on the heavier side? I guess max too.
Anonymous
7/6/2025, 3:22:43 AM No.11481306
has anyone ever went through the show and logged all the little animeism that made its way into the final product? Some of them are pretty cute.
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:31:19 AM No.11481472
>>11481367
>Huh, guess I'll have to do a rewatch
they're there. Like really watch Miles Mayhem and the other venom characters. Maybe even turn the audio off. Miles will often over emote like an anime and the dialog is actually more stern.
SOMETIMES, at least in the first 10 episodes, they will do action with just a solid water color color background. Like a waving blue hehind a character with a mask on. Thats another animism.
The vehicles also sway like anime cars in turns. Go watch the laser disc version of Road Avenger. Or the way ecto 1 drives sometimes in Real Ghostbusters. Japan had a way of driving fast car movement.
Oh and Gloria is kind of drawn like an anime mom. Vanessa is drawn like a feisty woman from bubblegum crisis or Gundam ZZ from back in 86. Someone like Chara Soon. Really, a lot of the humans look like gundam characters from around 86
>Huh, guess I'll have to do a rewatch
they're there. Like really watch Miles Mayhem and the other venom characters. Maybe even turn the audio off. Miles will often over emote like an anime and the dialog is actually more stern.
SOMETIMES, at least in the first 10 episodes, they will do action with just a solid water color color background. Like a waving blue hehind a character with a mask on. Thats another animism.
The vehicles also sway like anime cars in turns. Go watch the laser disc version of Road Avenger. Or the way ecto 1 drives sometimes in Real Ghostbusters. Japan had a way of driving fast car movement.
Oh and Gloria is kind of drawn like an anime mom. Vanessa is drawn like a feisty woman from bubblegum crisis or Gundam ZZ from back in 86. Someone like Chara Soon. Really, a lot of the humans look like gundam characters from around 86
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 7:39:11 AM No.11481476
>>11481472
>Go watch the laser disc version of Road Avenger
I found it for you. Whole thing is drawn like mask.
https://youtu.be/5axzEUD7QrA
>Go watch the laser disc version of Road Avenger
I found it for you. Whole thing is drawn like mask.
https://youtu.be/5axzEUD7QrA
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Anonymous
7/6/2025, 9:40:16 AM No.11481535
>>11481476
Thanks Anon
Thanks Anon
Anonymous
7/8/2025, 11:04:45 PM No.11483928
>>11459993
Starcom had one of the best cartoon tie ins of all the classic 80s franchises even though it was shortlived. The animation was great and it had a surprisingly fleshed out space opera setting with a lot of world building.
Starcom had one of the best cartoon tie ins of all the classic 80s franchises even though it was shortlived. The animation was great and it had a surprisingly fleshed out space opera setting with a lot of world building.
Anonymous
7/9/2025, 11:15:31 PM No.11484933
Did Trakker actually pay any of the MASK members or were they all doing it for free?