Savage Crucible's Wave 2 figures currently being shipped out, it includes, the wolfman Jaeger, the three Barbarian characters and the Frazetta "Ball and Chain Warrior". Kickstarter orders will be fulfilled first, followed by shop pre-orders and retail bought figures will be shipped out last.

Mythic Legion's next wave, “Horror of Einsamall” will be revealed Wed July 2nd 8pm EDT on their Youtube Channel. This wave seems to be the start of a new "storyline" for the franchise as it moves away from the great war and introduces some new evil entity.

Infinite Legions official 4H Pre-order period has ended while pre-orders on Retail Partner sites has opened with the increased retail release price.

AS6 Single figure direct pre-orders are shipping out now, retailer release Street Date is 8.16.25

Xesray Studios has been teasing new versions of their original Gladiator figures with updated gear and all new bodies with greatly enhanced articulation. Prototypes of updated Gladiatrix Berenice and Gladiator Medocus the Thracian have been shown off, as well as painted protos of the new Barbarian Line character, Hildr.

>Mythic/Cosmic Legions In Stock
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>2025 Retailer Appreciation Wave Pre-Orders.
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Next Wave Release Status
>Cosmic Legions: OxKrewe, Book One/Cosmic Head Packs/Silver Knight LB2 - Currently in production, ship in Q3 2025
https://sourcehorsemen.com/about/release-status

Previous Thread >>11444996

It seems the allure of shining Knights and the horrors of the Undead horde have finally passed as we're currently in the age of the Barbarian. Ready your axes, fluff up your furs and dry clean those loin cloths as this adventure is just getting started!

And remember, don't feed the trolls.

>In the years after the Second Great War, the Realm of Mythoss once again knows peace. The heroic factions that make up the Legions of Light have banded together closer than ever before. It is a time of rebuilding and prosperity in the kingdoms of Mythoss, yet there are also strange happenings in the far reaches of the Realm.

>At the Castle of Four Sides, the Legion of Light’s best and brightest minds receive a particularly disturbing report from the Northlands. This message comes from far beyond where the settlements of Sjelgard and Vikenfell once stood, from an area known as Einsamall that is so remote it does not even appear upon most maps of Mythoss. Eking out a meager existence in the unforgiving tundra of the Far North, the people who live in this region have existed somewhat insulated from the rest of Mythoss for ages, but now they send word that they are in danger and need help.

>The letter from Einsamall reports that numerous townsfolk have been slaughtered, taken in the night by some unseen monster only to turn up in pieces days later, their bodies torn apart and cast across the frozen landscape. The area’s greatest hunters have thus far been unable to find what is attacking their small settlement, and yet something continues to come for them every few nights, claiming another victim with each grisly visit.

>The Castle of Four Sides assembles a small party of heroic adventurers and sends them to Einsamall to investigate. Into the colds of the Far North the party heads, but what awaits them is a nightmare unlike anything they have ever experienced, and one which will open a monstrous new chapter for the Realm of Mythoss.

>Join us on our YouTube channel on Wednesday, July 2nd at 8pm EDT as we reveal the latest Mythic Legions wave and discover the “Horror of Einsamall”.

Thanks to the anon from the previous thread who initially posted this!

>>11471587 (OP)
Xesray's viking girl.

>>11471718
Nice. Real nice.

>>11471718
I prefer Viking men

>>11471718
>Xesray
She look really nice, never heard of these guys, what scale are they? Is she up for order somewhere?

>>11472500
They're coming too, along with some more beast like figures in the line.

>>11472632
She's still in prototype so nothing to order yet. She'll probably be up on most major collector sites or anywhere you prefer to get your chinese toys from. This is the same company that make all those Gladiators and Roman Soldiers, and they're actually working on updating a few of their older characters. They also make those massive Minotaur figures.

They're 1:12, fit perfectly with Legions and most other current fantasy figures and are just really solid figures overall. My only issue is that you should be careful with some of their weapon storage, the fit and finish with that stuff isn't there and some holsters and scabbards end up being too tight and can damage the weapons if not outright break apart themselves.

>>11472678
Ah ok thanks anon, I have seen those minotaurs around, so these are the guys that made them then. I just had a look for some of their stuff and, yet again, another company I missed the boat on it seems. This girl in the pic looks awesome, shame that wave seems long gone, I take it they only produce a small amount of them? Probably hard to get here in the UK, AliExpress I guess. That viking girl looks great.

>>11471587 (OP)
I just got Warrior with Ball and Chain, and I'd like to run a wire through the flail such that it I can bend it as desired. I can get the wire through chain without issue, but the base chain attaching to the plastic still more or less spins freely. is there any way to anchor that part with the wire?

>>11472703
They're actually working on an updated buck, so it's possible the original girls may all get re-releases down the line. Only one has been confirmed so far, but they were all popular figures so I'm sure the company is aware that people really want more of their figures.

Pic related is the proto of the updated version of the red chick from >>11472678, with new armor and a whole new build.

>>11472731
I haven't done that mod myself, but it's something I been planning as well. Generally when you get to the handle of the weapon you have to continue the wire down to the top of the shaft and kind of coil it around until the mace head is stable enough to stand on it's own. Kind of have to do the same to the mace head itself so that doesn't flop around either.

>>11472755
Oh nice, very cool! Well thanks for bringing them to my attention then anon.

>>11472757
My pleasure, it's a solid little line that's really finding it's feet now that it's moving away from the more historically accurate figures they started with. Here are some protos of some of their other upcoming releases, including the male Vikings, another Gladiatrix and some new body types that shows off how they're moving into more original concept characters.

>>11472760
Oo I like the berserker and the big fat gladiator guy, he could make a good slave driver or sultan's guard for a Conan display I want to longterm build.

>>11471587 (OP)
So I've gotten 4 from wave 2 so far, and my bonus weapons were Ko'Mo greatsword in blue, Nin Saber in blue, imperial sentry longsword in blue, and imperial sentry saber in purple. Thats a lot of blue... but happy to have gotten the greatsword in any color. Anyone else wanna share what they got?

Card wise I got 3 emblems... the Dwarven one in foil though, and a character pack head on Nashorn. Never got a named character yet.

>>11473655
My "secret weapons" were both Sentry longswords in purple, which considering I have a set of blue ones from previous releases, and a pair of red ones from the exclusive Sentry and a pair of solid metal ones from the weapon pack....I was honestly kinda disappointed to get another set of em. Grats to you for getting some of the cooler weapons though, I honestly didn't even realize they had different options outside of color.

As for the Cards, I honestly don't know cause I've never opened any of em. Cool concept I guess, but I was never a fan of cards coming with my toys.

>>11473707
At least you got ones with a nice color. In the latest livestream they discussed some other ideas of what to do with these secret item types, and there were some ideas like complete sets of gear, which sounds pretty interesting.
>Cool concept I guess
I agree, but I'd have specifically liked if these were sized like regular TCG cards rather than these giant ones. Can't just sleeve them up or what have you. They are pretty clearly built more to be like role playing game cards.

Any of you guys had any experience with Maestro Union figures? There are a couple of their conceptual Furay line ones that I like the look of (pic related), so wondering if they are worth holding out for. Sorry if this isn't fantasy enough, but they are sort of borderline, so thought I might get away with it here. Also the Conan cargo ships being delayed a bit sucks a little.

>>11473983
And of course, I forgot to add the pic.

>>11473983
Ya, I got the first Tiger, Blade Master Weng. The figure is solid, but it's also very heavy. While it's definitely a good figure, I was pretty bored playing around with it. A lot hindered the articulation sufficiently enough, and everything was tight enough that I wasn't having much fun. On top of that it's massive and the tiger feet made it pretty hard to balance (I think it did come with some more regular booted feet though, so that would probably make things easier).

They're very nice sculpts though, so if you're happy without needing to articulate it too much, you should have a good time with them.

>>11473985
is that a recent pic?

>>11473983
They're fantasy enough for me, so as they're more then welcome here as far as I'm concerned.

As for the Furay stuff, I got both Crocker and Veteran Willaims and they're both nice looking figures but Williams is a way better figure then Crocker. As the other anon said, these guys are heavy, solid figures, and Crocker suffers way more from this with all his bulk. Williams was way more fun to handle because he's way lighter and slender...though still pretty beefy. I'm sure the catgirl should be fine as she'll be one of their more slender figures, though those feet worry me about her balance.

>>11473985
I preordered that in excitement long time ago, but the more I look at those feet... if they don't reveal a really state of the art 3d toe joint there or alt shoes I think I'm going to cancel.

>>11474039
No idea sorry, saw it in the Gundamit comment section.
>>11473997
>>11474047
>>11474192
Ah yeah, I always wonder about the animal footed figures and how well they can stand up. Alright thanks for the input, I'll have a think about it. I do like this upcoming undead/oni looking samurai figure they showed off that looks like a part reuse of the rabbit guy, but I now notice he has quite small feet as well.

>>11474039
I'm a moron. I say "no idea" before realising I can just check the comment date, which was may last year, so no, not new.

>>11474047
Crocker seemed like their first attempt with things. They could probably improve upon a lot of it, namely the neck.

Here’s a good interview with 4H’s Jim Preziosi discussing Four Horsemen and the state of other toylines and licensing.
https://youtu.be/H62hBiv-Dxw

>>11475628
No thanks. Bobby's a fucking retard.

>>11477157
I don’t know who that is, I just watched it because of Jim

>>11477157
Yea, I couldn't sit through that, even though Jim was saying some interesting things.

Anyway, livestream reveals start soon, anyone have predictions or preferences of what we'll see this wave? I'm sure vikings will play a noticeable roll, and the newest tease kind of confirms that. I'm pretty certain Otho v2 will pop up in this sale as well, they teased him a long while back and this would be a good time to finally drop him. Especially since the story is supposed to focus on a mix of heroes from each faction.

>>11471591
First of the new figures revealed, a pretty good generic Viking figure with an alt army builder head. Tunic is a two piece soft goods set with the basic tabard body underneath

Also features a new shield peg that offsets the grip and lets it rest more securely on the arm while giving it a more natural look. It also works with all previously released shields and will also come with some of the Rising Sons figures.

>>11477275
New female Knight. Mostly reused build, but two new headscults and soft goods

>>11477275
I like his soft goods. Might get him and swap heads.

>>11477281
New buck, new race, new size class, their first "Imp" class figure is a Gnome. He's about half the size of a normal figure, so even shorter then Dwarves and Goblins. Also includes a Frost Goblin alt head.

>>11477288
SCHNOZ!

>>11477288
>>11477290
He actually has double jointed knees, though I do wish he had an actual weapon or something to go with the pick axe. Especially considering he's a full priced figure.

>>11477288
I want this solely for the barrel of booze.

>>11477275
>>11477281
>>11477288
Honestly mid

>>11477305
You're in luck, the fourth reveal is a full on Tavern set with a nicer painted bear barrel, four mugs of ale and a handful of food and plate items.

>>11477310
Will buy.

>>11477310
Next up is a "Tundra Orc" using the new 3.0 build and featuring the horse jawbone club, the first time it's being used in Mythic Legions since being teased many years ago.

>>11477314
I was sold by the little backpack.

>>11477323
Yeah that head is WAY too big. Looks ridiculous.

>>11477323
Oh my God, yes. He's so adorable. Like a finnick feller. Bought.

As someone who has only recently gotten into the line less than a year ago, why has every set since me getting into it shit? Like this wave is awful. I just want cool knights.

MORE BEEEEAR!

FUCK ME IN THE ASS YES

>>11477348
This is the most exciting thing in the wave.

Fuuuuck... 13% price increase... I was just starting to get into Mythic Legions, but they were already just on the border of too expensive for me. This may knock me out.

Man, who do I have to blow to get some new goblins?
Have we even gotten one since Swigg if we don't count reused heads tossed in with other figures?

>>11477334
Shit comes in waves dude, Knights and Skeletons had their year and you can still buy most of em. Now they're showing off new vikings and furries, which a lot of people have been askin for too.

>>11477338
That is one sassy bear.

>>11477348
>>11477351
Alright, I was expecting a lot, but I wasn't expecting a fully armored Ogre Scale Werewolf with new articulation. I guess it's a good reuse of the lion guy's parts. Guess I have someone who will actually be able to bully my Yakotaur.

Knight chick, fox dude, beer set and the giant wolf are must haves for me while the Viking dude is a strong maybe depending on budget. The bear is an easy pass as I don't really need two of em, the Gnome is cool but his best parts in the accessory set and the Frost Orc is neat buy overall pretty meh. Would've preferred it if he was some sort of Gnoll creature as that's a race that needs to be expanded on.

Cool little theme, nothing too original about the story but who comes here for an original story? I'm curious to see where they go with things, but in the end I just do my own story. But I do know I'll probably have to create another new faction as most of these guys don't fit neatly in the existing groups.

>>11477351
Tourist here. How much of that armor will come off?

>>11477382
Should be all of it. The shoulderpads are normally pegged into the back, the torso armor is either pegged together or you'll have to pop them apart at the waist and slide it off or something. Mythic Legions are meant to be fairly modular and swappable with parts. The legs.hip area, though, while you can remove that whole skirt piece, it leaves it bare "toy articulation" area.

>>11477382
Everything from the waist up can be removed but the belt and the boots need to stay on. The belt can come off, but it leaves the mid torso joint and hips exposed and they're not meant for show while the greaves are the legs themselves and can't be removed.

>>11477385
>>11477390
>greaves are the legs themselves and can't be removed
Aw, bummer. Thanks for the info, anons.

>>11477393
Better look at the back of the legs, pretty much the entire piece between the calf and the ankle is a solid chunk. But that does mean there's a chance modders and printers can make a replacement unarmored piece, and the 4H said they're not ruling out doing a fully bare figure like that in the future. But being Ogre scale, I wouldn't expect anything any time soon.

Full group shot to better give scale to each figure

>Vikings
Alright. Nothing amazing, but not terrible.
>Underpants Gnome
I think I might prefer the frost gobbo build. Love the keg. Needs a weapon, but I've got plenty to spare.
>Accessory pack
Immediately kills half of the appeal of the underpants gnome.
>Frost Orc
This might be my fave of the wave.
>Furry shit
Eh. Glad that the Gladiator LB came with spare shoes so I can use this body for the bonus dwarf heads from the Sons wave. Of course, it's got a 2.0 neck just to fuck with my plan slightly...
>Polar Bear
I expected the mold reuse eventually, but I don't feel like buying a polar bear until I have the first bear in hand. And even then, do I need another bear? Maybe if I display Bodvar as the mount and this one standing up. If they had sat on this guy for another year or two I might have been more interested.
>Werewolf
The only acceptable furry shit. About fucking time. Probably the best of the wave, but it really does feel like the retard kid getting a participation trophy after all these years that we've asked for one. Will look good leading Kessler and all the Maestro Union and Loose Collector wolves I have.

Glad it's not a huge wave like Agbendor was.
Also I guess All Stars is completely scrapped in favor of the Legacies of Mythoss subline. Did they say that last year when they announced it?

>>11477360
>Fuuuuck... 13% price increase
I was expecting this. So I'm guessing $45 for a basic figure now directly from them? $57-$60 from retailers is a bit harder to swallow. Probably the end of my BBTS purchases. I should start getting my extras from another retailer that doesn't charge me tax. Or maybe from the only local retailer. Whatever is cheaper.

>>11477199
Just checking, I'm not missing any release of blue dread man knight right? I felt bad skipping on him during 1.0 because on the prototype his head was HUGE.

>>11477528
Nope. You haven't missed him. Later this year, it seems.

Did Subby die? Not seen him in a long time.

>>11477534
No, nor has he been deported in a Home Depot ICE raid.
He was trolling the TMNT thread yesterday with pics of broken 40k figs because someone mentioned breaking a Joytoy TMNT figure.

>>11477348
THIS IS FUCKING SICK!
totally forgot there was a wave reveal yesterday. The vikings are fine, but not really my thing, but the two little dudes are great too.

>>11477413
The gnomes seem fun. I look forward to Figura Obscura Seven Dwarves in the future.

>>11477348
>>11477351
I want him to ravage me

>>11477756
always the degenerate pedo furries talking about how much they want to rape animals

>>11477762
Nice projection

>>11477764
yet you're the furry degenerate needing to make everything sexual, like a down syndrome spastic

What’s their justification for the price increases? Tariffs? I mean this wave won’t be out for years so tariffs may not even be a thing by then…

>>11478047
As always tariffs, every company has, currently is, or will be shortly doing it.
>tariff should raise price of item by $6
>company raises price by $15 to $20
>cite tariffs and shrug as customers eat it.
Hasbro I could see being the one it backfires on since they're being the most egregious and blunt about jacking prices.
>>11477413
Love that werewolf simple as, even with the price increases I still see him being worth it.
Love the little fox dude but I cant see slightly over half the price of the werewolf for 1/3 of the figure. Might be why they're including a campfire and barrel with the little guys to help justify the price.

>>11477348
>>11477351
>the bronze vamp head belt buckle
Wonder if they're gonna play with a vampire/werewolf conflict

>>11478047
Why whouldn't they plan on playing tariffs? As far as we know, tariffs are on and will be on.
Also, if nothing else, the increase in price in these future items will pay for tariffs on currently arriving items.

>>11477528
Nope, it was just my assumption being incorrect. When they talked about sending "Heroes from the Castle of Four Sides" I just assumed we'd see a figure from each of said factions, which Otho is one of. Instead we got a horror movie themed wave with heavy focus on new factions and races. So in the end it was just me underestimating what the 4H were capable of.

>>11478084
I think he's only $10 more then the Lion dude from the Beast wave, but this guy seems to have more articulation with the double jointed knees and butterfly shoulders. Even compared to the old Ogres, who were like $60 a pop, we're still getting our money's worth as far as I'm concerned.

>>11478047
Eh, it's been a slow creep for a while. These guys started at $32 for standard figures, now ten years later they're $42, but with generally better gear, paint, accessories and soft goods. The Armory figures are $45 as of right now and they're not nearly as nice as some of these new figures. The Gnome figures being this price is honestly a bit rough to swallow, but it does reinforce the idea that going smaller in scale doesn't really lower the budget.

>>11478084
>tariff should raise price of item by $6
>company raises price by $15 to $20
>cite tariffs and shrug as customers eat it.
Considering the basic figures in the Rise of the Beasts wave were $40, I was expecting 4H to charge $45 when they announced the 13% increase. They must have meant 13% of $37. This isn't as bad as I predicted.
>>11478229
>These guys started at $32
I'm sure they said when All Stars 5+ was announced in 2022 and they increased to $37 that it was the first time they had raised prices since the start of the line.
They were $45 (including postage) in the Kickstarter or $33 for an add-on to your pledge, but I'm pretty sure they were $35 when they hit the store. I'm happy to be corrected if they were actually $32 on their store for the first two waves.
I went to check my old order invoices, and the earliest one I bought from their store was Covenant of Shadow wave and they were $35.

>>11478047
They have to pay to have them produced now, though.

>>11478047
Tariffs started in June.
Most any company selling stock today got theirs before the tariffs started.

Most companies started increasing their prices when tariffs were certain back in February, because fuck you. They anticipate fewer sales due to tariffs increasing prices, thus want to start making up for the fewer sales before tariffs even start. *Actual shipping/costs haven't increased for them.

Then when the start time for the tariffs started getting closer, well, fuck YOU even more. Now even more companies started increasing their prices or increased their prices even more, because that's the real cost from now own. *Actual shipping/costs still haven't increased for them.

Now that the tariffs have officially started, but due to special circumstances, are temporary lowered, prices are at their NEW actual cost, because FUCK YOU! *All but food products that are currently in stock in stores/distributors weren't affected by tariffs, because it takes 1-2 months for overseas made stuff to be shipped to their stores/distributors, thus got to port/unloaded before tariffs started.

So everything from after August will be even more costly, because companies actually have 4 months of data to see how poorly shit is actually selling due to them raising prices and the fact that they're actually paying for tariffs.
And even if tariffs/shipping fees go back to pre-COVID levels, they'll keep their high prices, because they want to make up for all the lost revenue from the past 5 years or so. Hence no one raising lowering their prices after the shipping crisis during COVID and high prices continue being the norm.

In short, fuck you.

>>11478596
They have to pay the tariff to import them into the country. If they produced them in China and then distributed them to the rest of the world from a warehouse in China, the rest of the world wouldn't have to pay the tariff cost. Only Americans would once they arrive at port.

>>11477348
Ooh, I'm in for this bad boy. Surprised it took this long to get a werewolf in the line. We've had ghosts and vampires and I suppose zombies so...

>>11477288
almost there, David.

>>11477288
WOOH

So the Xesray Hildr has just gone up on %ktoys and I want to get one, but I can't find any info on their UK shipping costs, anyone have any idea how expensive they are? She's a good price outside of that, was hoping she would be on Gundamit but seems she's 5k exclusive.

>>11480937
Nvm I just tested with some in-stock stuff it's fucking £23 shipping, that's insane.

>>11480937
It's probably only the color which is exclusive. "Gold" Hildr.

>>11480965
Oh you think? I hadn't considered that, I kind of hope you're right, cos that shipping has made me choke, I can't decide. A bit scared she will go on order stop quickly. I am also interested in the gold and red gladiator girl who they mentioned goes up for order next week I think.

>>11480937
>>11480965
>>11480975
I think she's a Wonderfest Shanghai exclusive premiere release, most likely they'll have a regular repainted release later on. But I feel she may not come with all the same gear. I'll probably grab her now because the price isn't bad, even with shipping, and she does look great.

>>11481065
You or anyone else have any experience with Bombusbee? They have her as well oddly and they seem to list free shipping on everything I've experimented with going to checkout with, but it seems too good to be true.

>>11481067
>>11480975
It's done, I've committed £3.75 to the void, instant cold feet. I'm almost one of you guys now. Combined with my current three (now four) pre-orders, if the long-without-an-update GoodSmile Motoko figure reveals itself this year, the Mafex Black Widow expected at their event at the end of the month is good, along with probably Xesray's Berenice next week and likely the CT Hush Batman, those should be the last figures I will be buying for the forseeable future.

I blame >>11472760 you for this btw, adding another (soon to be two) unaccounted for impulse buy to my year and opening an account with another random unknown to me store. Hopefully they go well with Conan. Speaking of Conan, it looks like anyone who ordered the Chinese exclusive edition will get that one first, before people like me who got the regular Frazetta Girl's store one, I noticed it is listed as in stock at some places now.

>>11481184
If it makes you feel any better, I just dropped a buncha deposits on not only Hildr, but on one of those Metytoys Goblins and another figure from 5K I wouldn't have bought if I didn't know Hildr was up. Almost got that LADo toys Catgirl too, but I think I wanna wait to see how the wolf girl turns out before getting more figures in that line. Here I am supposed to be saving up for Legions, but I go dropping cash on random chinese figures.

As for how Hildr will do with the FG Conan, I have the Norseman and he scales pretty good with one of the older Xesray figures. I'm sure Hildr and Conan will end up being really good together on a shelf. And it honestly kind of irks me the Chinese Conan is hitting first....because I was super tempted to grab him instead of the original version, but I had already placed an order on FG's site and figured it'd be too much of a hassle to cancel it. But I prefer the Chinese Conan's gear and should've gone with him instead.

I'm hoping FG release either an accessory pack, or a variant that is different enough to warrant double dipping.

>>11481235
>because I was super tempted to grab him instead of the original version
Actually, I think I was the Anon you talked with in a thread about that a while ago and I felt the same at the time. Ultimately I think I prefer the curved sword, it's more accurate to the art's scabbard and a bit rarer in figure form/more orientalist and exotic, which is what I like about Conan. The shield and helmet aren't so different it bothers me much in the end. Can always get a straight sword from somewhere else and like you said, they sound like they may do accessory packs. I am really excited for him, I hope it doesn't have any issues.

The Hildr fur cloak will be good for reenacting the Frost Giant's daughter, the figures look quite similar stylistically which is nice. This Berenice one looks too good to pass up as well, her helm is amazing.

I'm not usually into anthro animal characters, but that LADo wolf and cat girl actually look really neat, I can see the appeal, hope you like them.

>>11481067
I got my Veteran William and white repaint from them. Got my stuff and it was always packed nicely. No peoblems.

>>11481067
Their free shipping might be the slow boat from china. Or they still haven't fixed all the bugs since they updated the site.
I've bought a fair bit of stuff from them. Their only big issue is their communication can be pretty shit. I wanted to combine two preorders that came into stock the same week, which they did, but some glitch in their system (this was not long after they updated their site) made the payment amount 5x what it should have been, so I contacted them a second time telling them about the glitch and that I would pay when it was fixed, and they just cancelled the whole order without even replying. I was out 5 bucks for the deposit, but honestly I was more pissed because one of the figs had sold out nearly everywhere, but I was lucky to grab her when another store had a few cancelled orders. I'd never had an issue until that. Kinda soured me on them a bit.

>>11481314
>>11481357
Well I pulled the trigger anyway, the 5ktoys shipping was going to make me skip her and I was hoping she would pop up on Gundamit, but that didn't happen, so it was Bombus or bust. It is listed as airmail, shipping to the UK from Chinese places is often free/quite cheap for whatever reason, so I suppose the site might be telling the truth. Oh well, I guess I'll see, thanks anons.

>>11481361
I'm sure it will all work out. They have been mostly good apart from that one incident. And like that other anon said, they pack their stuff really well.
Thinking back, their shipping has been mostly cheap, but a bit inconsistent between things of similar size. Sometimes a couple of bucks. Sometimes $10. I think the most expensive shipping was San Zero Cthulhu, which was going to be pretty expensive by airmail so I got it shipped by boat which was crazy cheap and only took a bit over a week longer than an airmail package from Amiami. But the last order I got shipped by boat took over two months because the ship was delayed leaving China and was then stuck in port enroute for ages. That wasn't Bombusbees fault though.

I'm glad they are filling out the packets of these little fuckers with the bigass accessories. They are tiny.

>>11481399
That's about the size Legions would've been had they stayed 1:18. I'm glad they went bigger, each figure feels far more impressive at their current size and I don't think we ever would've gotten "imp" scale if they stayed small.

Still, wish these guys were just a bit cheaper. Even if they didn't come with so much stuff.

>>11481413
I jokingly thought of the anons that are still mad about them not being 1:18 when I saw the pic, and thought "hey, you finally got what you wanted." But I couldn't imagine an imp class figure working at 1:18 scale.
It would be nice if they were cheaper. The campfire with the furry isn't quite enough to makeup for the price. If it came with non furry feet so that I could use it for the frost gobbo head, I'd be more inclined.

Heads up that the other Xesray's are available for pre-order now. I'm not sure which to get between Cassia or Berenice, I can't really afford both.

>>11482467
Medocus.

>>11482467
Cassia (Posecia?). She seems the best value based on accessories and parts, I like that she has two hair styles.

>>11482467
Berenice. I'll probably go for this one I think, I love the red and gold, and that helmet is amazing.

>>11481399
>>11481413
>>11481446
You do realize that the steel molds are still the same price with those figures, yes? Obviously there’s less plastic with those figures, but plastic isn’t the main cost.

What happened to the NECA D&D line? They weren’t the best articulation wise, but I did enjoy them as throwbacks and the amount of accessories was nice. There was still several characters I wanted.

>>11482478
Now explain why an Ogre scale figure is more expensive than a Brute scale figure, which in turn is more expensive than a basic figure.
And then apply it to your post.
Especially compare the cost of a Brute scale vs a basic figure, because the size difference between the parts is negligible. Less than the difference between a basic figure and the Imp class.

>>11482503
Plastic price becomes more of a % in the total of a figure the bigger the figures are.
The difference in plastic price between a 3" figure and a 4" figure is small, it's the number of pieces what counts. The difference in plastic price between a 6" figure and a 8" figure is more meaningful.

>>11482522
>The difference in plastic price between a 6" figure and a 8" figure is more meaningful.
The difference in the price of plastic is negligible. The size of the molds has more impact on the figure's price than the amount of plastic going into it, and larger molds are exponentially more expensive than smaller molds due to the cost of such high grade steel that needs to withstand the stressors that high pressure injection molding puts on them.
And the size of the Imp class figure molds are small enough and cheap enough for the figures to still cost out with huge accessories, so obviously the molds don't cost anywhere close to the same as a basic figure.

>>11482470
helmet is amazing and the shoulder pad is really nice too

Am I missing something or are all the social links outside of Lufel girls?

>>11471718
$65 on BBTS. It's tempting, but how are the quality of this line? Does the plastic feel sturdy or brittle? QC on face paint, joint integrity?

>>11482598
They’re oddly enough very similar to NECA as far as that stuff, so take that as you will.

>>11482598
The first Xesray wave was a bit rough. I had the 3 gladiators (Viking, Roman, and black guy). Face paint was a bit iffy and joint was stiff/brittle. I skipped on the women and roman waves, but fast forward couple years, I got the minotaurs the joints were fantastic. Smooth gliding, solid plastic, nice paint. So it seems like Xesray has gotten their shit together, although they have not released smaller humans in a while.

>>11482638
>Face paint was a bit iffy and joint was stiff/brittle
Guess I see what this anon meant now >>11482602

>>11482598
the first female wave (wave 3) had VERY tight and squeaky ankles, (this made swapping feet scary, but they stand super sturdy because of them
good not as tight sturdy knees and shoulders and wrists but still above average, regular quality, hipjoints and midriff joints, elbows were the loosest of the bunch but still more than ok

most the joints were painted but the plastic underneath is also colourmatched wich was weird

the main issues were the aformentioned hard to swap feet that might break if you don't heat them up to soften and then remove VERY carefully
and paint transfer issues from the castoff armor sticking to the skin wich could be incredibly hard to remove
also said armor can often impede their range of movement a lot

otherwise, solid figures I'm glad they're making more of
hope they work on more precise cute face of the females and paint issues the most
and hopeflly they give all female figures the castoff hard plastic panty piece that Vlattia had
becaue berenice and tadala had painted on shorts that looked so-so

>>11482913
>*shorts
i meant panties oops
so only a slip painted on the lower body, no painted pantleg on the thighs

>>11482468
The new sculpt looks fantastic, arms look they get way more range and butterfly joints are always nice to see. Not gonna grab him myself, but he's cool for people who missed out on the original run.

>>11482470
She looks fantastic, and I'm sure she's a huge upgrade over the original, but I'm happy with that first one and she's not that much better where I feel I *need* said upgrade.

>>11482469
I'll be grabbing her though. She has such a "Bad Bitch" vibe the other girls didn't have, and I especially love the night club look she can rock without the armor.

>>11482598
All the figures I have, seen >>11472678, are solid...but a bit squeaky. I wouldn't compare em to NECA stuff like that other anon, but they're definitely in the same tier as other Indy lines like AWOK, Plunderlings or the Savage Crucible stuff. Most of the gear on each figure comes off, and some have extra "bare" limbs when they have molded on gear.

My biggest gripe with most of the figures I have is that their weapons do *not* fit in their storage loops. I had to massively grind out Berniece's little scabbard to fit her sword, and it's still kinda tight while one of Vlattia's loops straight up snapped when I tried to stow one of her sword. Actually fully enclosed scabbards don't have that issue, but gear loops and such don't actually fit their weapons properly.

Also the scary tight ankles on the girls can be an issue, but only if you want to pull the feet off.

>>11482913
I can see them going with painted crotches on the newer girls. Vlattia only had undies because she had nothing over them. A molded undies piece might get in the way of tight fitting armor and cause pieces to ride into each other. I know V1 Bernice's armor was more or less perfectly fit to her lower torso so much that it didn't really move. If you tilted her upper chest back too much her boobs would pop right up and out of the armor. It didn't really leave much room for specifically molded undies underneath.

>>11482478
You're a retard.

A larger figure is going to use more molds than a smaller figure. Nevermind that producing a larger mold also takes more time, thus costs more too.

This is why 1:18 figures cost 50% less than 1:12, or at least, used to. It's hard to saw now, since prices have been fluctuating like crazy.

The cost of steel and plastic is basically negligible. It's the processes that cost money.

>>11482938
I ended up putting a deposit down for the Berenice to go along with the Hildr I did the other night, I have to stop myself now. >>11481235 I still blame you (myself), this is all your (my) fault.

>>11482944
ALSO, because processes are such a major cost, it's why shampoo bottle toys are so cheap to make. So a different process can make something much more cheaper, even if they're using the same amount of plastic.
Despite their size, rotocast molding is super cheap to make, because it doesn't require heavy pressure machines and molds to produce them.

So large toys like these Marvel Titans are super cheap to make, despite being like twice the size of a ML. SAme shit with 4H's dragon, which is also made with rotocast parts, except 4H is pretending it's the plastic that costs money and is charging you toy made fully from high pressure injection molding would cost.

>>11482649
Apparently you don't understand anything then

Fml the Xesray figures are now appearing on Gundamit, so I feel like a fool for Bombussin'. It's all going to go wrong, I can feel it.

>>11483390
Also do you think the guy in charge of updating the listings had a stroke?

>Love goblins
>Also love gnomes
Man, if I get the gnome I'm gonna have a hard time deciding which head to put on him. Might have to either buy two or else print a separate body for the goblin head.

>>11482954
>except 4H is pretending it's the plastic that costs money and is charging you toy made fully from high pressure injection molding would cost.
Why are you making stuff up?

>>11482947
I sincerely apologize for forcing you into buying a bunch of cute girl gladiators with tons of gear and cast offable armor. Rest assured that the guilt will cause me great suffering for all of five or so seconds, but woe what a traumatic five seconds that will be.

But no seriously, I hope you enjoy em. They're a good line of figures and this new batch seems to be the best product they've put out to date. I'm personally excited about more barbarians and have been very much on the fence about buying more of the Roman soldiers to build a small squad of em, especially since they seem to be on discount at most online shops. If there weren't so much other good stuff coming out I'd already have me a nice shield wall of the dudes on my desk, but I understand how hard it is to turn down so many cool toylines that keep popping up these days. Even with my collecting habits greatly reigned back, I'm still finding new stuff to impulse buy almost every day.

>>11483909
I am trying to set my cut off now, that's it, the only two I will make an exception for are the ones that haven't been revealed yet, but should be soon; the Mafex Black Widow and the Hyper x Body Motoko. The only other one I am still on the fence with is the Tyrande by Greyknight because I am already in for Sylvanas and she looks great, but I think it's all too much, I should really hold off and just wait to enjoy all the orders as they come in before buying any more. I hope my fantasy orders turn out well, I'd like to actually be able post some toy photos here for once, get my Mythic Fantasy member badge, instead of ruining it with my dear diary entrees like I am atm.

These gladiators look great though, I'm excited, I watched some reviews of the original figures last night and they looked really nice as well, so I feel contentment now. [spoiler]Well aside from the emotional turmoil of the momentary joy at last night's discovery of the Pilot Baroness, being an almost perfect femme fatale figure I have been searching for since forever, and a mere G.I. Joe at that, only to then have the crushing realisation it is a Haslab exclusive and goes for $165 at the moment.[/spoiler]

>>11483944
And now the added humiliation of fucking up the spoiler text again.

>>11483945
Yea, /toy / don't have spoilers for some reason.

And I saw you posting about that Baroness, but as others have said she'll get a mainline release in time, just with different colors. Retro Scarlet started life as a pack in with a Haslab too, as did the Retro Cobra Commander. So just think of it as giving your toy budget time to recover so you'll be ready for her re-release.

As for the Xesray stuff, they've really fun solid figures but the originals still had a lot of room for improvement. The new ones should certainly be better figures overall, as should future Legions releases as they're also getting better and better with articulation and range of motion.

It is easy to be overwhelmed by the stuff coming out these days. I'm slowly building a backlog of things I haven't even opened yet, and I hate doing that. But there's too many cool toys coming out now, especially fantasy stuff which really wasn't even a thing in toys for a LONG time.

>>11483966
>It is easy to be overwhelmed by the stuff coming out these days.
Absolutely, it reminds me a bit of the big Kickstarter boardgame boom when there were so many enticing projects all kicking off at once and everyone was ending up with like 10 project preorders in the pipeline. These third party companies popping up everywhere with really impressive stuff is quite mad and a lot of them are fantasy figures as well. Feels like there is something new every day at the moment. I need to use this as motivation to renovate my place for more space.

>>11483476
Nothing i said is a lie.

4H is using one of the cheapest methods to produce their Dragon and is charging for it like they're using normal high pressure injection molding.

Normal companies who don't rip people off actually pass on the cost cutting savings off to their customers, so they only ended up paying $10 (instead of $20-30) for giant toys like this. But not 4H, who has a history of lying, like saying that 1:18 cost nearly the same to produce as 1:12 figures.

>Subjectanon is back to shit up a thread about toys he doesn't collect
Marvellous.

>>11484028
Quick, someone jump to the Joytoy section to praise their warhammer stuff!

>>11471587 (OP)
Anyone got a clue on when BBTS will have Savage Crucible up for order? I pre-ordered the Frazetta barbar but wasn't interested in Krieger or Who-Man at the time or the accessory packs. Now I am and the anticipation is killing me, I'm just so paranoid they'll come into stock and instantly get scooped up...

>>11484087
I'm sure you'll be fine. They should probably have finished the KS orders soonish, so I'd expect BBTS was a part off those, then it's just a matter of them listing them as ready to go on their site.

>>11484028
The best part is him posting the LOTR Battle Troll that had to be released for half the price of the two previous Troll releases because they were both so notorious for the rubber rotting (exacerbated by the "Try Me Now" action feature) that the majority of them had to be thrown straight into the store dumpster because the face was falling apart before anybody could buy them. And even if someone got them straight out of the case and never used the action feature, there was still a high chance it would start cracking in a few months. They had to price them that low for stores to even consider stocking them because they had already burned retailers and their customers two years in a row and nobody was spending $20 on that shit. A great example of "Normal companies who don't rip people off."

>>11484150
>ignorant retard making shit up to defend 4H ripping off their customers.
The previous trolls had electronic features to them, so of course they cost more.

Still doesn't change the fact that rotocasting is super cheap, hence companies being able to release their toys for cheap. Unlike 4H, who constantly lies, to try and justify their price gouging.

Nevermind that Battle troll was $9.99, years AFTER the original trolls came out, and holds up better, due to Toy Biz learning about the plastic issue. Major toy companies like Toy Biz weren't purpsoely using cheap plastics, because they're made for children and aren't supposed to crumble apart. Unknown problems can pop up, hence Toy Biz fixing that issue once reports started coming out.

You know who doesn't respond to issues like professionals should? 4H. Their toys have been crumbling apart for almost a decade now and they still don't fix this issue.

I've read one of your posts already today. I've had my laugh. Not reading another one. I don't give a fuck what essay you've got concocted to push your "4H bad" narrative while posting companies that made shit that literally fell apart while it was on the shelf.

>>11484173
Sorry, I couldn't resist.
>hence Toy Biz fixing that issue once reports started coming out.
Reports of that issue were happening while the FotR Cave Troll was still on the shelf, and they STILL made the Armored Troll with the exact same issue the very next year for the Two Towers line.
And yet the Legions Cyclops and Frost Trolls don't have paint scraping issues that the first wave of trolls had ,(which you still cry about to this day), but of course you want to pretend 4H don't respond to issues because you are a lying faggot.

>>11484192
You realize it takes almost a full year to make a toy, right? Pretty hard to react right away, especially when it took about a year for those issues to pop up.

Oh right, you didn't and don't know any of this, and even if you did, you'd just lie and make shit up.
Because here you are, trying to talk shit about another toy company to deflect criticism about 4H, because you can't actually defend 4H using one of the cheapest molding methods there are and still charging for their dragon like it was made of the most expensive molding method.

Again, rotocasting is super cheap, hence every company who uses this molding method charging the appropiate amount for it. Except for 4H, because they like abusing their fanbase and gouging them.

BTW, the paint scraping issue was a DAY ONE issue since the birds. It kept being an issue 3-4 years later. It shouldn't take a year to fix that, and it's nice of you to ignore the fact that their toys still crumble apart, without any fixes, because 4H doesn't want to use quality plastics, despite the high price for their figures.

>>11484150
They used an even softer rubber than McFarlane did on their Sleepy Hollow box set?

>>11484204
>You realize it takes almost a full year to make a toy, right?
Maybe they could have delayed it once they started getting word of all the Cave Trolls literally rotting on the shelves. It's not like it was the centerpiece of a major scene like the Cave Trolls was. It was on screen for a few seconds when Frodo and Sam were at the Black Gate.
>it took about a year for those issues to pop up
Bullshit. They were literally rotting on the shelves within weeks of being released.
>>11484220
It was somehow even lower quality than that. The open box design that allowed you to try the action feature meant that most of them fell apart before they were ever sold. Picrel is what they look like these days even if the action feature was never touched.

>>11484245
>4H shill born in 1999 needing to lie about the history of some toy because he doesn't want to acknowledge the actual criticism about 4H not being able fix brittle plastic issues 10 years later
You realize reviews still exist for the original troll and no one mentions it has issues? Again, it took a while for the issues to pop up, not weeks like you're lying. I'm old and i never saw the issues, despite the troll being such a shelf warmer that it actually co-existed with the Two Towers troll later on.
I only found out about the rubber issue around that time, since i asked someone on a forum if the armored troll was worth it. So i skipped him and completely forgot about the line by the time the superior Battle Troll came out. Again, Toy Biz was able to react to the issue like a good toy company does, hence the Battle troll still holding up to this day.... unlike 4H's mythic legion figures, which continue being prone to snapping

But what's this ahve to do with the original point, which is that 4H uses rotocasting, one of the cheapest ways of producing toys, but charging for it like it's high pressure injection molding?
Does 4H have a good reason to charge as much for the dragon or is it just 4H expecting fanboys to bend over for their pricing, because they don't know how cheap rotocasting is?

>>11484278
>You realize reviews still exist for the original troll and no one mentions it has issues?
http://www.oafe.net/yo/lotrct.php
He .emotions THE LotR movie, indicating that the second one hadn't been released yet.
He mentions the face already cracking.
He mentions having to glue it to prevent it from deteriorating further.
You are a liar, and I'm not reading another fucking word of your drivel.

>>11484285
>review literally says it's not happening to the troll
>specifically mentions oldass xmen toys and their issues with rubber rot (which is still a common issue with all rubbery figures).
Are you an ESL who has a problem with understanding English or are you just lying?

You're twisting a review around, because you need to deflect criticism about 4H doing a worse at addressing issues than literally everyone else, by not fixing issues that they've known about for years and years, and even a decade later.

Can you you acknowledge the original point, which is that 4H is overcharging for their dragon, because it uses one of the cheapest methods that toy company charges half the price of high pressure injection molded toys?

>>11484285
oh, and BTW, if you were actually alive back then or knew anything about toys, you'd notice he's talking about oldass xmen toys.
Guess what he's referring to? Shittyass XMen 1 movie toys, which came out around the same time as FotR.

Since he's referring to reviewing them a long time ago, that means his cave troll is equally as old. So if it's only developing cracks years later for his review, it proves it wasn't rotting on the shelves like you're lying about.

So not only are you an ESL, but you're proving you were born in 1999 or maybe later. So you don't know shit.

You're just making shit up because you're want to deflect criticism about 4H overcharging hundreds of dollars for their rotocast dragon and cheaping out on plastic, so their toys from 2025 break as easily as their toys from 2015.

also, if you don't know the meme for pic, you're also a newfag.

>>11484288
>review literally says it's not happening to the troll
Let's go over that part of the review again since you obviously cannot read English, or are just completely illiterate, or retarded, or all of the above.

>Unfortunately, the Cave Troll's face is made of soft rubber, like the X-Men movie figures I reviewed so long ago, and is just as prone to drying and cracking.
How would he knows if it is just as prone to cracking if it hadn't cracked yet?
>The same rubber is used on his chest and stomach to give him a somewhat fleshy feel, but that rubber hasn't begun to break down since it doesn't get stretched and moved as much.
This clearly implies that the rubber on the chest hasn't begun to break down while the rubber on the head has.
>Repairing the beast's face is a simple task. I got a bottle of fabric glue from my local craft store. It's strong, dries clear, yet is designed to be flexible. I opened the mouth, put glue in the cracks, closed the mouth again, and wiped the excess across the remainder of his face. It gives him a bit of a snotty/sweaty look, which actually makes him a bit cooler.
An actual description of him repairing it.

And you think you can call anybody else an ESL.

>>11484304
You missed the part where he said THE LotR movie. Only one existed at the time of that review.
And X-Men came out mid 2000. Fellowship came out end of 2001. At least a year and a half between the movies, which is a long time to normal people. We know it isn't to you, because you've been mentally stagnating for close to 20 years, which is why you occasionally slip back into mid 2000s /b/tard speak.

>>305
>talks about the toy rotting (the dry crumbly shit) on the shelves and now referring to cracks that tend to happen at seams of rubbery toys
Nice goalpost movement.

Nevermind this is all moot, because the review speificially mentions the oldass xmen toys, which means the review happened years after the Cave Troll came out
To prove my case, here's a link to his review that he's linking to. A 2001 review for what was then brand new toys, yet he's referring to it as happening 'long ago" in his Cave Troll review.

thanks for proving you're a 4H shill desperately grasping at straws, ignorant about toys that were released before you were born, and you can't even acknowledge the topic of the thread anymore, because you know 4H is ripping you off for a rotocast dragon and overcharging everyone

also
>>a year and a half is a long time
LMAO, are you 12?

>>11484192
>>11484245
>>11484285
>>11484305
>>11484310
Don't, just don't. Once you start green texting and specific replying you've already lost. He doesn't actually care about the truth or reality, he's a lying sack of shit who does nothing but make things up so he can spam wall of texts so people pay attention to him. He will warp reality to fit his insane bubble and ignore whatever you say just to spam more made up bile and insanity.

He's already derailed the thread enough, everyone was having a pleasant, peaceful time discussing toys, it wasn't even about the 4H toys, before he proverbially burst into the room to spray his moronic shit everywhere. Do Not Engage. It doesn't matter if you're right or not, he will never admit or acknowledge it because he is not here for discussion, he's here to be a pathetic little attention whore.

Also, on a completely unrelated not, I recently got the BFS Red Sonia in hand and decided to see how her extra gear fits on Jjuno, and that stuff works surprisingly well. Like the BSF figure *looks* more slender then a Legions girl, but the thigh band fits perfectly on a Legion's figure bare thigh and the extra scale armor pauldrons fit right on Jjuno's shoulder with no modding needed. I mean if I drilled a little hole in Jjuno's back it'd be way more secure, but even without that it sits really well. I'll try and get pics of it later today, the cross compatibility with the gear is pretty surprising.

>>11484324
>Nice goalpost movement
Deflection and projection because you were unable to read the part of the review where he said the rubber is drying out and cracking. Or you were pretending you didn't read that part of the review because you are a liar.
>LMAO, are you 12?
I know time has stood still for you for the last 20 years, but a year and a half is a long time when you are actually doing something with your life. That review is still almost a full year before Fellowship came out. Did you know that a person can go from being childless to having a living human heir in that time?
No, you'd never be able to comprehend that.
Are you going to continue to ignore the fact that he started the review talking about THE LotR film? Singular. Not plural. Or that he doesn't mention any of the other releases of the trolls? Almost as if they didn't exist.
Because they didn't.

>>11484328
I'm done. I know, arguing with him is like running in the Special Olympics.
Still, it was worth it just to see him try to blatantly lie about the content of that OAFE review.

>>11484333
>literally misread own screenshots and gets proven wrong at every point
>no ur deflecting and projecting!!!!
COPE

This is a Mythic Legion thread and I've been asking you in the past 5 posts to get back on topic, which is that 4H's using the cheapest molding method for their dragon, so how come they're charging $500 for it, like it's made entirely from high pressure injection molded parts.

Instead, you want to talk shit about toys you've proven you know nothing about either because you weren't born yet or are an ESL who never saw the toys in person, thus are only repeating an exaggerated meme about the cave troll, because you just want to deflect criticism from 4H.

Instead of bullshitting, can you answer why 4H's rotocast dragon costs so much, when it's a proven fact that rotocast everything should be much much cheaper?

Ok, I got both Xesray Roman girls preordered. Still pondering on Gold Hildr, trying to figure whether I'l like the exclusive one or the probable regular one more (I guess she could be a redhead with different outfit colors and dark fur?). Might decide on the weekend after some introspection or something.

>>11484348
Forgot to say, one thing I'm reasoning in favor of waiting for a regular Hildr is she might be enthnically coordinated in cloth and hair colors with other barbarians that I might or might not be interested in.

>>11484356
>>11484348
Damn it Anon, now I want a red haired one...

>>11484347
>This is a Mythic Legion thread and I've been asking you in the past 5 posts to get back on topic
Mythic Fantasy thread. All on topic, but you really want to move away from the discussion about the Toy Biz troll because you've been repeatedly proven to be lying.
Also you wouldn't know about how widespread the Cave Troll issue was, because you admitted you weren't collecting them until 2014 because you were "2 kool 4 kiddie shit" while you were doing you community college degree in Bulgogi beef preparation.

Oh goody, this guy is back again.

>>11484361
Yeah, but I have no idea.
Some Xesray concepts for barbarians from 2022 that I've just dug from my hd. I think we've seen some of this in white prototype since then.

>>11484378
That bear pelt one is so good, a Chaos marauder, Adrian Smith HATE line would be awesome. Ffs Anon, stop.

>>11484367
>Mythic Fantasy thread.
Yeah, the thread to talk about Mythic Legion, yet only you're repeating a meme because I criticized 4H by comparing them to Toy Biz, who was able to make oversized toys for real cheap because rotocast toys are supposed to be real cheap, unlike 4H, who overcharges for their rotocast toys like they're made of gold.

And of course, your meme was proven wrong by your own screenshot of Oafe's review, since the review was obviously made years after the toy was released and the screenshot of that xmen review proves it too.

Also, just like you needing to misread your own screenshots you thought would prove you right, you're also misreading my post. I didn't buy anything from LotR (Toy Biz's, but i did buy GWS's minis) way back when, but that doesn't mean i wasn't going to toy stores. Obviously, i was and also buying toys (Ill always be a nerd even when pretending to be cool), hence that "90%" remark about the McFarlane toys i own.
Did you know I'm also a GI Joefag and was buying GI Joes back then? I also have sizeable ML collection too, because i was buying and going to stores back then on the down low.

Also, your poorfag is showing through, because you seem to be projecting your single-line purchasing habits on me. Toys aren't even my main hobby and i was only comparing my buying habits back then to how they are in modern times.

So can you actually explain why 4H charges high pressure injection molded prices for their rotocast dragon, or are you going to move the goalpost, make up more bullshit, misread more posts, to continue deflecting?

>>11484380
Umhh...

>>11484383
I said stop!

?
https://web.archive.org/web/20031220215052/http://www.oafe.net/yo/lotrct.php

>>11484386
It was also released in 2003 in the red Two Towers box.
https://www.figurerealm.com/actionfigure?action=actionfigure&id=35730
So the first anon might have been wrong about how old the review was, but the figure was still likely less than a year old when that review was made, and Subby has no idea how prolific the deteriorating rubber on the Cave Troll was.
It makes sense that it was the red box release in that review. The majority of the initial Fellowship release ended up with the fully torn mouth seen in >>11484245 because of the open box design and dumb kids fucking them up in stores.
But the rubber still began to disintegrate pretty quick even in a sealed box, as can be seen in pic related. And Toy Biz didn't try to find a more durable rubber for any of the reissues. It was so bad that when they reissued it in the blue box for ROTK, cracking and disintegrating Cave Trolls were warming shelves everywhere, so no retailer wanted to take it, and the blue box release ended up only getting released in Spain. Not even all of Europe. Just Spain.
I've got 90s Street Sharks thatngot actually played with that are in better condition than most MIB Cave Trolls.

Meanwhile, Conan arrived.

After long consideration, I’ve decided not to preorder this wave after having preordered every wave for years. I just can’t justify the price increases, especially when they’re charging the same price for those imp scale figures. Yes, I get they come with some big accessories or whatever, but personally I’d rather get two imp figures if they’re going to charge the same price instead of an accessory I won’t use. I’ll probably just order the Viking guy, werewolf, and maybe the bear. Seriously though I’m quite disappointed with 4H and really hope this isn’t the direction they’re going with every future wave.

>>11484713
Nice anon, I am so excited for mine, cucked delayed small horn version. Arghgh. Detailing on the straight sword looks nice.

>>11484713
Also, Anon, do you happen to have the Mithril Action/Greyknight Morna figure? If you do, would you be kind enough to show a size comparison to Conan please? I recognise it's a long shot. His skin colour looks so good, glad they decided on this look for him.

>>11484907
Nope, I don't have her, but I can give you his exact heigth, at 17,8cm to the top oh his hair.

>>11484951
Thank you anon hope you like him! Teegra is such a pretty figure.

>>11484386
>>11484473
I like how even in the review he doesn't make a big deal out of the obvious fault with the figure. If it weren't for those awful action gimmicks I might even have been tempted to hunt one down, regardless of melting face status.

Funny enough, a lot of the figures and all of the horses also had rubbery plastic parts, but none of my Toybiz figures are showing signs of breakdown yet. The tunics and gear I can understand being more durable, but the necks of the horses cover up a joint and should break down over time as well. I guess it must've been more the spot they used the rubbery plastic on that made the Troll face so prone to disintegration.

>>11484713
Now THAT'S a Conan. I'm so glad they went with an entirely new, unique mold for him, and his size is pretty perfect. The Mezco one was cool, but way too small, Ball and Chain SC figure is nice, but feels a bit too generic despite being based on actually art, but the FG version is easily going to be my definitive Conan.

>>11484771
I kind of agree with you on the "Imp" scale, as accessories or no, I feel they should be a bit cheaper, as is I lost all interest in the Gnome once they showed off the Tavern set. For the normal figures, the price increase sucks but it's not entirely unexpected as again, the Armory guys were actually more money. But the average figure just *feels* more worth it these days, as they have way better paint jobs, far more accessories and the soft good are light years better then the stuff older guys came with. I love my first wave figures, but they are very much showing their age compared to newer releases.

>>11484951
.....I was trying to avoid wanting a Teegra, but she makes such a perfect companion (not in that way you pervs) to Conan. Very much the damsel of the day he has to aid before things go horribly wrong and he escapes certain doom by the skin of his teeth leaving another maiden to deal with her own chosen path of fate.

......I'm also still kicking myself for skipping Darkwolf.

>>11484473
LMAO
I really love how you keep getting proven wrong but still keep on grasping at straws about a 2003 review of a 2001 Toy Biz toy, because you're angry that someone said that rotocasting is super cheap and 4H charges for their rotocast toys like it you're paying by the gram for their dragon.

This is the biggest cope on /toy/ since some autist said that toys aren't luxury items, because they're actually human rights.

pic of how 4H takes 2 years and still didn't address the paint scraping problem for their mythic legion figures.

>>11484967
I'm sure they will do more women, particularly ones in the Conan line itself, if you wanted to hold off on her still, Frazetta's art was covered in potential damsels. This is one I really want and hope they do, one of my favourite of his paintings.

Eamon also mentioned if there was enough interest they may do a small reissue of Darkwolf in the future, so might be worth adding your name to the waiting list.

>>11484278
Anon, I also broke that same tail you posted (twisted it the wrong way), and the 5 minute fix I did with a drill, a paperclip, and super glue solved it permanently. Meanwhile, that LotR troll is completely ruined, and that's without even being touched. It just rotted away. The troll issue was repeated in the followup release, despite them knowing the problem would occur again.

Meanwhile companies like 4H replace parts every time, and put in effort to improve in future releases. They even replaced a foot that my dog chewed up when a figure shelf-dove, despite not being remotely at fault.

>>11485033
>it's okay that 4H ignores complaints about their brittle plastics and their toys constantly breaking for 10 years, because a toy company in 2001 made a mistake that they fixed as soon as they found out it had issues
So all toys are shit except for 4H's? What a shill thing to say.

BTW, 4H replacing your broken brittle toy with the same brittle toy isn't much of a positive. If they were actually a good company, they'd have paid up to use quality durable plastics, instead of hiring shills like you to extol their virtues and how being overcharged for rotocast toys is actually a good thing.

>>11485023
Oh I've already got my name on that list, but I genuinely do appreciate the advice.

As for future "Conan girls", I'm sure they'll put out some great ones, I'll just have to make sure my wife doesn't see em. I got myself the Loose Collector Vampirella on my shelf and she keeps jokingly referring to her as "that skank" and wants me to push it behind other figures. I can only imagine her reaction if I got my hands on a figure of the Egyptian Queen and had her all damselling at the feet of Conan.

>>11485033
Just so you know, that pic wasn't his pic, it was someone else who specifically mentioned they ham handed that part of the tail. He doesn't actually care about *how* something broke, he just steals pics to bitch about things he's been bitching about for over a decade.

I'm honestly convinced he had a gay crush on one of the 4H and got shot down so he's been seeking revenge ever since. I can't think of any other reason someone would carry such a burning hatred of a toy company, especially a group like the 4H who are very much fan and consumer friendly, for so many years. Generally speaking, well adjusted people just avoid things they don't like, but he'll actively search for any pictures of broken 4H figures just so can he spam posts them here and ruin these threads in some weird attempt to get some semblance of revenge for whatever imagined slight that was wrought against him.

You can't really reason with a person who has those kind of mental issues so the best thing to do is really just hide his posts.

>>11485076
>she keeps jokingly referring to her as "that skank"
Hah, you need to get some cloth goods coats and hats for some incognito mode shelfing, just tell her you've started a noir detective display.

>>11485076
>That isn't his pic
Oh I know. I know because this one >>11484204 is MY pic. And he's still too much of a retard to crop it to remove my repair, which is irrelevant to his shitfits.

>>11485054
>So all toys are shit except for 4H's
Please, show me where I said that.

Additionally,
>Made a mistake that they fixed as soon as they found out
They didn't though. They released a second product with the EXACT SAME defect, knowing it would crumble.

>>11485130
>Please, show me where I said that.
It's the insinuation, because that's the history for you shills.
I used a Toy Biz 11" figure that cost $10 to prove that 4H is overcharging for their rotocast toys, and you guys have spent the last 50 posts making lies up to shit on Toy Biz, instead of defending 4H and explaining why they're not overcharging for their rotocast toy. It's all deflection.

Last time i talked about rotocast toys and how cheap they are to produce, you guys spent almost two threads shitting on Rebor (and others), because again, you can't actually defend 4H for ripping off their customers by charging them for high pressure injection molded prices instead of rotocast prices.

>And he's still too much of a retard to crop it to remove my repair
Why would I crop it? I've never once claimed any of those images are mine and I'm only posting it because it's proof of how brittle their toys are. Despite you guys knowing how cheap Mythic Legion plastics are and being careful with them, you STILL break them.

>They didn't though.
Of course they did. This is why you shills were trying so hard to pretend that the review came out in 2001 and were rotting within weeks of being on the shelf, because you know how long it takes to produce a toy. Again, toys take almost an entire year to be produced and the earliest a fix could be done was for a 2003 toy. Toy Biz was a responsible company.
Unlike 4H, who literally ignored people's complaints for years and years, despite problems popping up DAY ONE of release. Nevermind 4H takes months (up to a year?) BEFORE actually starting production on a new wave, so they had plenty of time to make any fixes.

But those fixes didn't happen for like 4 years and brittle plastics continue being a problem, because 4H is too cheap to splurge on durable plastics, despite overcharging for their toys.

pic of how 4H is too cheap to pay for quality control

>>11484713
fuck man
he looks so good
I thought the mezco one was going to be tough to beat but I think I like this way more already.

>>11484962
>Funny enough, a lot of the figures and all of the horses also had rubbery plastic parts, but none of my Toybiz figures are showing signs of breakdown yet.
None of the horses I have or figures like the Ringwraith with the rubber legs show an signs of rubber rot.
That troll though? I threw it out over a decade ago. I didn't even use the action feature much when I first got it, but when I pulled it out after it had been in storage for a few years, it looked like the Gremlins puppet props or the TMNT movie prop masks do these days. The skin had almost completely fallen off its head.
>>11484975
I like how you said there were no reviews that said how it had a problem, and then when one was linked, you said that the review never even said that the troll had cracking rubber and he was talking about the X-Men movie figures, and then when it had to be spelled out for you because you are a total retard, you focused on the review being so long after he reviewed the X-Men figures that it must have been a few years after the figure was released.
Want to move the goalposts again?
>cope
That's all you can do. You need to shitpost here to cope with the fact that people still buy Mythic Legions while you seethe eternally like the sad little faggot that you are.
>11485153
>ogre 4h.jpg posted for the 26th time in 7 years
Actual mental illness.

>>11485201
It still boggles my mind at how much Conan stuff has come out in the past few years. I'm going from having one to having at least three different versions of the classic (i.e. non-movie) Conan in my collection in a year, and that's not even counting the Legendary Barbarian homage.

At least I'll finally be able to use some of those spare heads from that Conan accessory pack Mezco dropped with the original release.

>>11485218
>>ogre 4h.jpg posted for the 26th time in 7 years
>Actual mental illness.

....I feel like I should start getting residual checks or something for as many times as he's posted that despite it literally having nothing to do with anything he says or even being any kind of example of a problem with the 4H's figures.

>>11485231
>"this is how you disassemble the hip joint if it is seized."
>"AHAH!!! This is definitive proof that 4H figures are brittle and I will repost it as many times as I can."
The funniest part is that he has posted it more times since they introduced the new hip tooling than he did when those hips were actually an issue.
And we've repeatedly told him that they redesigned the hips, but he still posts it. I know he says he went to college, but it must have taken him close to 10 years to do a 4 year degree because information does not sink into that thick fucking skull of his.

>>11485239
Yea, there was like one more Ogre buck released with those hips (The Horseman figures) before they changed over to the new ones iirc. It wasn't even that big a problem before the change, but it was enough for the 4H to completely retool the figure because they actually care about little things like that.

My original Ogre's still work perfectly fine though, as do all the newer ones I've bought since the change.

>>11485239
>needing to pull your toy apart to prevent it from breaking because people on /toy/ were shearing their joints apart due to 4H not paying for quality control on them isn't bad!!!!!
Sure is downplaying 4H's fuck ups because you need to shill for 4H.

>>11485218
>still needing to lie about how all other toys are bad because he needs to deflect criticism from 4H overcharging for rotocast toys and cheaping out on QC
see >>11484288 Everything was already proven wrong, hence you need to misread the review, pretend it was written earlier than it was, and move the goalpost for what rot is

also
>having a problem with me posting 2+2=4
Yeah, because being right in 2019 that 4H doesn't pay for quality control for their overpriced toys suddenly makes it wrong if it's posted one too many times.

Again, the images are just to prove how 4H doesn't respond to problems or takes years and years, because it shows why the continue having problems today: they're greedy cunts who cut corners.

>>11485250
Yeah, I've said before that my first run of ogres from the Bjorngar wave needed some hot water, and I hit one with some shock oil because it seized up a second time. But my copy of Argemedes never needed anything done to him. He was fine out of the box, and I thought they had solved the tolerance issues with that joint. But then when they released both Horsemen figures there were a lot of complaints, especially about the brown one. I never opened mine so I don't know how bad it was.
The next ogres they released were the Argemedes BBTS reissue because they didn't receive their full shipment of that figure and Decebalus from the Illythia wave, and I can't remember which came first but both had the new hip design.

>>11485261
>still needing to lie about how all other toys are bad
Ok, you are actually illiterate or mentally ill. I said that the horses don't suffer from the same problem as the Cave Troll. No wonder you are imagining that the goalposts were moved on what rubber rot is. Not that the goalposts were ever moved. Except by you when you tried to say there were no reviews from back then talking about the issue, or that the OAFE review was actually talking about the X-Men figures and he didn't even say his troll suffered from that.
You really are a lying schizo. But hey, at least SDCC is coming up, one of those special times of the year when they let you out of your padded cell. Is your brother going to be your tard wrangler this year, or will Newsom be providing you with one for the day?

>>11485277
>if i do a backwards compliment for a toy, while actively shitting on another toy by the same company, who I was also shitting on, means I'm not actually making shit up to deflect criticism from 4H
>now please keep responding to my contrarian bullshit about the dead horse that i only know about because of a meme, because i hate that you want to talk about 4H overcharging me for rotocast toys while literally every toy company in the world charges fair prices for them
What's it like being allergic to talking about a toy brand you shill for?

Be honest, when did you even get into 4H's Mythic Legion line? These past 5 years? because i really can't see how you can be positive about them if you recieved an entire package of toys from them where every single figure had paint scraping issues from just moving the joints around. Or having half of them suddenly snap on you over the years, because the plastic is too brittle.
I've noticed that there's been way less bitching these past 5 years or so, but that's mostly because all the oldfags who used to come to the Mythic Legion General all quit the line. The General finally died 2 years ago after 4H shat on their customers for complaining about the bad QC and needed to merge with the furfag fantasy general, and its still dead compared to even the 2019 Mythic Legion Generals. The oldestfag today is the guy who tries to be helpful with his half-assed guides, but it doesn't seem like he was around when the line got its Kickstarter and even he admits to his 4H figures breaking too.

You don't sound like you own anything. Just a random ESL shill with no interest in toys, hence not knowing anything about other toylines and just repeating memes you heard someone say that was repeated by some other dude who knew a guy who saw it happen 50 years ago. If you own anything at all, it's just going to be something within recent years... and probably only because 4H gave it to you for free when you took up your shilling job.

>>11485277
>mentally ill
I think we can safely this has been long established. The guy comes into every one of these threads and posts the same essay length diatribe. Who does he think he is even talking to? These threads are probably like 90% the same people who have heard and ignored his shit a hundred times.

As someone relatively new (the past few months), the way you type and write is just insanely boring, I don't know what your intentions are, but if your posts are supposed to inform prospective collectors on the dangers of Mythic Legions, your autistic, argumentative "I must have the last say", repetitive, long winded, unmoveable approach doesn't work. It has the opposite effect.

I don't know why you respond to people and engage in the pretense of discussion when you utterly refuse to concede even a sliver of a point to anyone over anything, it reveals how disingenuous you are and invalidates your credibility.

>>11485231
>It still boggles my mind at how much Conan stuff has come out in the past few years.
And long may it continue! I am very hopeful for some good Bêlits, I'd love one inspired by either Brom or Adrian Smith from the board game (don't know if ajy of you board game but Monolith's Conan game is superb, my favourite one). I adore the aesthetic of the mystical middle east.

>>11485476
And of the Brom I meant. Would be amazing if the Frazetta Girls/Savage Crucible artist lines inspire others to do the same. Bisley with his Sláine is something I would do backflips over, Paul Bonner's plethora of monsters and dwarves etc.

>>11485472
>I don't like your tone, so I'm going to buy brittle toys from a company who rips off their customers just to spite you
What a stupid 8th grader's mentality, but it's no skin off my back. I actually think that's funny.

And it's not even my goal, because I've only been responding to disingenuous shills who only post retarded lies.

My original response was to some guy who didn't know that larger toys require more molds, which raises the cost to produce the toy. The guy was probably just repeating a stupid lie that 4H said back in 2014, where they claimed the costs to produce 1:18 figures was the same as 1:12, which is a blatant lie, since literally every company who makes 1:18 proves it's cheaper by charging 50% less for them than 1:12 lines. Even used an example of how different processes makes things cheaper, like rotocasting.

Of course, this pissed off the 4H shills in this thread, so they've been bullshitting about how all other toylines are shit to defend 4H's honor.

>>11485482
>all other toylines are shit to defend 4H's honor.
Does one or two bad figures mean the entire toyline is shit? What am I saying, this is Subjectanon. Of course he would interpret someone pointing out how shit the Toy Biz trolls were as them saying the entire toyline is shit, because he's a Roof Korean anchor baby that struggles with the English language.
All other toylines other than 4H must be shit, and that's why so many anons are talking about and praising Savage Crucible, Xesray Studios, and Frazetta Girls. Not that Subby would know anything about those lines. He can't afford toys these days unless they are from the clearance aisle or Goodwill. That's why he only comes here to cry about the same shit about 4H every thread. It's the only contribution he can make.

>>11485497
>still more bullshit deflection because he doesn't want to respond to the parts about 4H and mythic legion, because he needs to defend 4H's honor with made up bullshit
Again, every one of your bullshit remarks have been pointed out how you're full of shit starting here >>11484173. every other backlink has more proof that disproves your retarded bullshit, plus some random post by some random anon who linked to an archive.

How come you haven't answered my question about how long you've been collecting Mythic Legions? Can you be on topic for once? I know you also avoid taking pictures too, because that would only prove me right about you.

And i don't buy the furry toylines, because I'm not furfag and the roman toys are just boring to me. Frazetta? Eh, they're alright. Maybe if i was a coomer, i'd be interested, but eh.

And you've proven you're just a contrarian. If i dared compare the Frazetta Girls/Xersay Studios to 4H, you'd be shitting on them too. You have a grade schoolers mentality, hence trying to turn my insults about you being a disengeous, ESL, thirdworld dwelling poorfag back on me. But since i have no interest in the furfag toys and generic romans, I haven't bought any, and have no idea of their quality to ever compare them to a 4H figure to.
You know what is comparable to 4H figures? Joytoy figures, because Joytoy also doesn't give a shit about QC and overcharges for their toys with outlandish prices, like they're some top notch Japanese toy company.

>>11473997
I have the gator bounty hunter, I'm kinda in the same boat as you with them.
>solid figure
>heavy as shit because he's absolutely solid
>changing the heads/necks out is an absolute nightmare even boiling the thing
>hands are similar in difficulty
>tail is the worst tail I've ever put in a figure

>mfw just got an email that my skeletons are on the way and should he here monday
Godamn now I've gotta redo my displays as my skelly army grows

>>11485580
How many skellies you getting? These the ML ones?

>>11485589
The 4H ones
>the evil Ogre knight
>Clavian
>Thorasis
>2 Skeleton raiders
>undead heads pack

>>11485510
>How come you haven't answered my question about how long you've been collecting Mythic Legions?
>I know you also avoid taking pictures too
Probably because it's not the same anon, but since these questions are obviously aimed at me because you are butthurt about being caught lying and knowing nothing about the LotR line, let's roll.
I take pics every now and then. Here's one from an old shelf display. Feel free to reverse image search it because I don't think I posted it anywhere else. If you are more than a surface level collector of the line, you should be able to identify some figures that indicate how long I've been collecting. I know you probably will save it to your folder like the obsessed hoarding goblin you are.
>posts 40k shit while demanding others post on topic
What a hypocritical faggot you are, on top of being a lying shitposter.
>And i don't buy the furry toylines, because I'm not furfag
Furry lines? Savage Crucible has one furry figure, unless you are a filthy casual that doesn't understand how Lizardman and Deep Ones are connected to fantasy. Do you mean Xesray? The closest thing to furries they made are the minotaurs, and we all know you have bought a Legions minotaur.
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/filename/Minoshit/
>Frazetta? Eh, they're alright. Maybe if i was a coomer, i'd be interested
It makes sense that you'd see Conan, Darkwolf and the Norseman as coomer figures, though I would have thought you'd be more into Mezco Conan for his buff manlet status.
All you are proving is that you don't actually know these lines and have no actual interest in fantasy figures, which is a pretty clear indicator that you are only here to shitpost. Which we already knew, but the fact that you are posting some 40k shit is enough proof that you are only here to shitpost.

>>11485602
A veritable necromancer's horde.

>>11485580
Sweet. I am still waiting on my order of extras to get shipped, but I've been so busy I haven't even finished opening everything from the All In.

>>11485076
>I'm honestly convinced he had a gay crush on one of the 4H and got shot down so he's been seeking revenge ever since.
I hope they have extra security this time. Jilted lovers do the craziest shit.

>>11485636
People are going to need some big ass encounter sets if it's going to be a 1/12 tabletop game heh.

>>11485649
I'm sure they showed off some miniatures at some point. Legionscon last year maybe?

>>11485636
Didn't the game bombed pretty badly? They didnt learn anything, people just want to have OCs on their shelves. Making coherent lore for Mythic Legions is dead on arrival

>>11485651
Fair enough :p

>>11485153
>Fails to show where that was said
>"It's the insinuation"
Moving the goalposts, nice try. As ever, you are utterly incapable of directly addressing the substance of any reply to you. You immediately pivot to a different claim.

>Toys take an entire year to be produced and the earliest a fix could be done was 2003
It doesn't matter wether they could fix the batch they were making. They knew, before the release of the second wave, that the rubber would fail. They had the option to not release a faulty product that they knew would rot on the shelf, and they chose to release it anyway, fully knowing that the product WOULD suffer the same flaws. They released it because they hoped to sell them anyway, to recoup the production costs, at the expense of consumers. You're defending a company who released a defective product with full knowledge that every single unit was defective and would fail within months.

>>11485649
Even if they did intend to stick with 1/12 figures, plenty of tabletop games are almost entirely theater-of-the-mind, no battle map required.

But also, this seems like a stupid thing to invest effort in. Almost nobody cares about ML lore beyond the most surface level. The mobile game was also insanely stupid

>>11485651
Yea, they announced a table top game set in the Legions universe, but haven't had much info on it since the first announcement. They even sold a special d20 with the 4H logo at the con and on the site after. In >>11485636, the only new figure is the Knight dude in the front, the rest are all part swaps and such. I'm assuming they'll just have an SDCC figure and then talk more about the TTG.

>>11485721
The video game? Hasn't come out yet, probably never will considering the studio making it has virtually no prior experience to speak of. The most I've seen is some janked out "character creators", but that's about it. That game never had a shot in hell to be successful, but it got us some cool builder sets so I'd say everything evened out in the end.

>>11484087
Those barbarians look so good. Is there any chance they'll go back up on the Savage Crucible store, or am I going to have to pay third party prices for them?

>>11486262
There's a chance they'll have stock once all the Kickstarters, Store Preorders and Retail Preorders are all shipped out. And if they do the same thing they did with the Lizard men, they'll continue to drop new ones randomly on their store. Hopefully they do a "Slate" or basic Barbarian figure release, as those cheap army builder bodies for the lizards were great to pic up.

I also recommend the "slate" weapon set, it's about as cheap as you can get an accessory pack these days, but you get access to weapons that are otherwise locked behind specific full priced figures.

>>11486055
>Hasn't come out yet, probably never will
I saw something about the vidya the other day but didn't post it because I didn't think anybody was interested. It's in beta right now and could potentially be actually released by fall. Shocking. I figured it would be vaporware.
While I was looking for this post again because I couldn't remember if it was on 4H's page or not, I saw that the Silver Knight Legion Builder is on the boat from China right now.

>>11486417
Well hot damn, color me almost impressed. I don't have any skin in the game for...well the game...but I am hoping it turns out well for all those who backed it. I have absolutely zero faith that it will, but as long as it gets released I'll call it a win.

And yea, the Silver Knights and the 10 year books are almost done, guess they were able to slot production of them between a few of the larger waves because he's coming out earlier then expected. Hopefully the Agenbeforwhatever wave is close behind because I plan to use a lot of the extra gear from the Blue Shield builder to spruce up the Legion Builder.

>>11486428
I read a comment from Jeremy a few weeks ago that although originally they had Agbendor pushed in front of the Rising Sons wave because it was mostly reused molds, progress with the Sons wave is going so smoothly that they are now planning to release them in the order that they went up for preorder.
But like you, I need the Blue Shield builder for my Silver Knights.

>>11485627
I appreciate your photo and sorry for thinking you're that ESL poorfag, but it's hard to seperate shills from fanatics, since you amount to the same thing.
And what am i lying about? Again, the reviews that were posted prove my knowledge. You guys claim the toys were rotting within weeks of the shelves, yet that dates from the reviews show that the troll was reviewed a year or or two LATER and there's no rot. CRACKS from use are normal with rubbery shit, but that's not rot and even the cracks aren't noticeable.
So not only does this prove I was right, since i was actually visiting stores back then, but it proves you ignorant liars are only repeating memes and are exaggerating how fast the problem actually developed. You guys likely weren't even born back then or couldn't form memories yet, if you even live in America.

Also, you clearly have no idea who i am. I'm literally the last oldfag still visiting the Mythic Legion threads for the past 3 or 4 years, because I'm a long time 4H fanboy who has been collecting their lines since the original minotaurs. All the other oldfags rage quit due to 4H's shitty QC, but you you can still find them posting in other threads (same furniture, collection, and/or outdoor photos).

And i don't save random photos. I only started saving photos of peoples broken/chipped Mythic Legions because you shills and fanboys started to deny that 4H didn't have massive problems with QC issues after our archive crashed. Which either shows how newfag these threads are or are just massive shills, because 4H had so many issues back in the day, that they didn't respond to emails asking for returns/fixes for YEARS and YEARS. So these threads used to be full of people posting their broken, scuffed, missing pieces, and this is why all the other oldfags ragequit 4H's toylines. Too many problems.

pic of when 4H made a bunch of oldfags quit in 2017, because of their incompetence to market the Power Lords and were too greedy to use Kickstarter

>>11486319
>>11486262
I've got a good feeling about BBTS tomorrow or Saturday. At the same time I wonder how legitimate that feeling is given I've had pre-ordered items filled that didn't even show up under new-arrivals and went directly to sellout....

Fuck me I should have just pre-ordered Krieger and the weapons at the same time.

>>11486466
>the troll was reviewed a year or or two LATER
It was reviewed the same year as the reissue. Considering how many of the "Try Me" first issue green box trolls had to be dumpstered before the Two Towers reset because kids tried them and the rubber was so shit that they were falling apart in stores, it makes sense that he is reviewing the red box reissue.
>even the cracks aren't noticeable
He says he glued it, which is why the head is so shiny. Something that can easily be seen even in his 20kb images.
>i was actually visiting stores back then
And yet you don't remember the pile of FotR Cave Trolls that had torn and disintegrating faces because those stupid open "Try Me" boxes rarely go well, as seen by those decapitated Space Jam 2 Lebron figures. Never mind that even if you dug into the endcap to get one that hadn't been fucked with yet, it was still doomed. My friend, who was an even bigger Tolkien fan than me, never used the action feature once, and his was cracking before Two Towers even hit cinemas. Not the mouth. The whole head.
>You guys likely weren't even born back
This is the weirdest cope.
>you clearly have no idea who i am.
You are Subjectanon aka Rancorfag aka Interest-free-loans-anon. You've been posting the same images for a decade. I'm pretty sure it was you throwing a fit when BBTS received their stock before all the backers got their figures, but I am not 100%. It became obvious you were Subby when you started Rancorposting. You own 3 Mythic Legions figures, and most of the 4H figures from previous lines you own are still in the packet. You say you are a 4H fanboy, but its more like abusing your spouse and then saying you love her.
>And i don't save random photos.
You save photos of anons in their basement/attic/garage with WH minis as proof that they are Chinese shills or something, and repost them in threads that have nothing to do with 40k because you are fucked in the head.

>>>11486541 It was reviewed the same year as the reissue
LMAO. Here's 3 posts of you screaming about how only a single LotR movie existed when the toy was reviewed >>11484285 >>11484310 >>11484333 So now you're claiming it's no longer 2001 but 2002? nice goalpost movement, because you got found out to be full of shit.
And in >>11484285 your own image proves you wrong about what was cracked too

You're wrong and your obvious lies are obvious, all because you just want to shitpost about other toy companies being worse than 4H, because you want to deflect criticizism about 4H fucking over their fanbase for charging for rotocast toys like they're made of gold and not fixing their QC despite years and years of fans bitching at them.

Again, i wonder when you shills will start denying that 4H made a Youtube video to shit on their fans 1 year ago, because they were tired of their fans complaining about the massive fuck up with latest Mythic Legion figures being made of chalk instead of plastic.

And i didn't save any favela basement photos, until i needed to post them to make fun of that guy's squalor a couple months ago, since he started to deny he wasn't some third worlder. So again, this is another case of me needing to prove you guys are full of shit, because your own photographs prove you're wrong.

>>11486588
I am someone else, nta, may I ask which companies/model lines you use as a barometer for reliable QC and sturdy quality? This isn't antagonistic, I am genuinely curious because I get concerned about it with most of the lines I consider picking figures up for, upon looking I often find pictures and posts of chipped paint or broken arms, legs and pegs. Who do you use as a reference point?

>>11486588
Considering the movie came out end of 2001, and he did state THE LotR movie, I was going off the evidence in the review and assuming the review was from when the movie was first released. Maybe a few months later.
And I was wrong.

It's not like I was deliberately lying and/or ignoring the actual content of the review and claiming he was only talking about the X-Men figures cracking, or claiming that he doesn't even mention the Troll cracking when he explicitly describes how he glued it.
It was only when you were proven wrong on both counts here >>11484305 that you moved the goalpost again, and even then you were assuming the Cave Troll was only released in 2001 so it had to be many years after it was released that it was cracking.
The fact is you don't know how bad the Troll rubber was back then because you were so poor that you could only afford $6 GI Joe two packs with your allowance when your mommy took you shopping while you were on break from college.
>And i didn't save any favela basement photos, until i needed to post them to make fun of that guy
So you do save random photos. You complain about grudge holders and stalkers, but just like all of your attempts at insults about ESLs, third worlders and poorfags, it's projection.

>>11486636
Literally any line, but Joytoy.
I've bought a couple thousand toys from dozens and dozens of brands in the past decade and the only two lines that have broken on me are 4H and Joytoy.

Like, I own some of the most supposedly fragile toys ever created, with the thinnest pegs, using clear plastic joints, and they're still intact over a decade later, despite being handled by my 6-12 year old nephews. Whereas my 4H figures just SNAP from falling onto the desk that they were standing on, because shitty ass loose joint problems that they used to suffer from, because 4H doesnt want to pay for quality control.

If literally every toy i own holds up to the same level of use, there's definitely a problem with 4H.... but everyone knew this, hence all the Mythic Legion oldfags ragequitting the line.

The difference between the Mythic Legion threads today and how they used to be before 2020 is night and day. There were always crazy fanboys, but normal collectors still existed. People used to be able to vent, posting their photos about their problems about the line, without shitposters like >>11486541 trying to shit on other brands and toylines to deflect criticism. For the past 3 or 4 years now an entire thread can be completely derailed by the shills screeching at every shadow.
And i mean shills, because they're way different than the fanboys from before. They just want to stop you from saying anything negative about 4H vs actually having a viewpoint and disagreeing like fanboys usually do.

i took pic a couple of months ago, showing some of the most supposedly fragile toys i own. And despite aging, and some being over 20 years old, they still haven't broken on me.

>>11486641
>okay, you proved I'm moving my goalposts and made shit up for two days straight because i have no idea what i was talking about, but now I'm totally knowledgable and should take what i say seriously!
You're a fucking retard

>>11486681
stop spamming the board and fuck off retard

>same repeated arguments
>same pictures
>for years
I would say he’s a bot but I know better

>Yesterday morning we dropped a teaser for our appearance at SDCC, along with a new photo for Mythic Legions: The Roleplaying Game. Keen-eyed Legionnaires did a perception check and noticed that while most of the heroic party shown in that picture were combinations of figures we’ve released in the past, the “leader” of the party was an unfamiliar adventurer. Good catch everyone! Introducing the very first figure from the upcoming Mythic Legions RPG – the Heroic Paladin/Cleric!

>This figure will be making its debut at SDCC in very limited numbers, with only a select amount available for purchase at our booth each day of the event.

>This figure is a teaser for what we have planned for Mythic Legions: The Roleplaying Game, with parts included to build either the Paladin or the Cleric – both of which are fully playable in the upcoming game and which will come with links to download prebuilt character sheets!

>This deluxe version of the Paladin/Cleric comes in black and yellow SDCC colors with 3 total heads, extra weapons and hands, and premium wired soft goods – plus a 20-sided game die and a pair of Mythic Legions: The Roleplaying Game character cards.

>Can’t make it to SDCC? The Paladin and Cleric characters will also be available in a slightly different way when we go live with the Kickstarter for Mythic Legions: The Roleplaying Game in early 2026. Additionally, this deluxe, debut version of the figure (the same one offered in San Diego) will also be available as a special, limited edition item in that campaign. This means that SDCC is definitely the first place to get this limited edition figure, but not the only place!

>Are you ready to set out for the Realm of Mythoss? The adventures begin on July 23-27 at SDCC with your first chance to grab the Heroic Paladin/Cleric. We hope to see you there!

>>11486930
Damn. Another coif face that's in a difficult to get exclusive.

>>11486930
Love the yellow black look, I hope it won't be too much of a pain to get in the KS.

>>11486930
>>11486934
Welp, called it.

He looks good, I love the whole boots over armor thing and the extra heads are real nice with tons of reuse potential, so I'm hoping he'll be easy enough to grab from this Kickstarter of theirs. I also hope they have more actual figures and it's not just Minis.

That said, trying to pass this off as two different "classes" with just a headswap is a bit of a reach.

RIP - he's cancelled/the studio is MIA

>>11486892
If it's the same repeated arguments, it's because you shills keep arguing about the same shit.
>>i don't understand how bigger toys cost more money to produce than smaller ones
>explain manufacturing processes and costs
>>you're a liar
>how am i lying? Here's real world examples of how costs correlate with their prices
>>w-w-well everything you like is shit and made by hitler

Seriously, the difference between these threads from 2015-2020 and now is massive. There used to be quality discussion, even when there was disagreement before and now you shills do nothing but derail threads to deflect criticism.

It's like 4H noticed how many of their long time fans dropped them after so many quality control issues and hired 2 shills to act as an army just to do nonsensical damage control 24/7.

>>11487414
I just wanna say that I agree with you and even if nobody else agrees, I respect your opinion. This most recent wave really opened my eyes to how much 4H has been scamming us lately. Not only did they raise the prices of everything, but then trying to get us to buy 1/3 the size of one of their normal figures for full price. Hell no, enough is enough. I’m getting my dragon and then I’m getting the hell out.

>>11487417
Scamming us? Their figures have gone up at most $10 a pop over the last decade, but the actual quality and accessories each one comes with had expanded to match that increase in price. There's already plenty of 1:18 lines that actually charge *more* then what the 4H are charging for their Imp figures, and most collector lines are at similar if not higher prices.

They've been pretty consistent with what they've been saying about pricing and they've also been pretty consistent with charging very much average prices for low run Indy figures so you'll have to explain the scam to me. Hell most Plunderlings retailed for similar prices and are about the same size, but they don't have nearly the amount of detail, paint or accessories that the Imps do, and I just grabbed some 1:18 PGV Girls, who do have similar paint and tons of accessories, but actually cost more and they're just entirely reused bucks at this point. So if comparable lines of figures of comparable sizes cost comparable prices, where's the scam?

>>11487406
Hate that for anyone who wanted that. It happens with those Chinese companies.

>>11487406
I just checked BBTS, and the horses they put up for preorder after the Griffin did actually get released under the previous company name (Fish Studios). Not sure when that happened.
Reading into it a bit more, BBTS just cancelled everyone's preorders for the Griffins, but the horse accessory set due out at the end of the year is still up for preorder. So maybe the company just cancelled the Griffin and isn't completely AWOL.
>>11487506
Not even $10. I posted my invoice from the Covenant of Shadow wave earlier in the thread. >>11478579
$35 back then. And they stayed at that price until mid 2022 when they raised the price to $37 for All Stars 5. And the price of the three basic figures in the Beast wave at the start of this year was $40.
So really, since the tariff shit, they have increased the price by $5.
That said, I do think that charging the same price as a full sized figure for the Imp is a bit shit, especially when they are charging a higher price for the Brute figures which are about a head taller than a basic. I know that they are trying to make up for it by including the huge accessories, but I'm just not feeling it. In the past I'd probably get extras for the alt head, but if anything I'm only getting the Gnome.
But the other 3 basic figures are definites and still feel the same value for money as most of their figures from the Necro wave onwards, even if the Tundra Orc feels a bit light on stuff compared to Halvard.

>>11487640
Fish Studio doesn't handle the Griffin. The Griffin was initially solicited under D20 studio, but they split up to Fish Toys and Y.FAT. But I think Y.Fat went under/MIA, and the Barbarian OC figure was released under "Nightmare Studio"

Considering going all in on the snow figures DLC. They will go well with the Xesray viking girl, My only major reservation is the big bad wolf, it bothers me that a wolf is an ogre scale figure while they had jaguars and larger cats as normal sized figure. The blue orc is also meh, I'd rather they expand on giving us variants of the same species, like another frost giant with slightly different deco, instead of keep reinventing variants for the same species. Gnome, snow fox, blonde knight, and viking ranger are defo pickup though

>>11487417
Man, you must really have wanted that dragon if the last straw is $42 4.5" figure.
Paying almost $500 for a rotocast dragon is a waaaaaaaay bigger rip off, especially since they're charging $150 extra for each accessory. Rotocasting brings cost down dramatically and them not using that cost cutting method to bring down the price for their customers is greedy as fuck.

The imp bodies are using high end molding, but yeah, they're also overpriced.

>>11487506
PGV toys are small batch toys. I don't know if they're hand painted by the creator still, but that's why their figures were/are always so hard to get and take forever for releases to come out. Probably assembled by the creator too if he had to be involved with the painting process, but maybe he had help since i never saw that mentioned.
But that's nice that you cherrypicked the most expensive 1:18 lines. Hiya Toys sells their figures for only $20-25. Nevermind most 1:18 lines today have better engineering than 4H's figures too, which requires more molds and assembly time.

Joy Toy, Acid Rain, Eagle Force, Fresh Monkey Fiction, Boss Fight Studios, Creative Beast Studios, Mega House, Chicken Fried Toys etc etc etc have 1:18 figures in the 30-40 range. If anything, Hiya Toys is the cherry picked line to show a low price and on average their QC sucks so you get what you pay for. But hey, you like being wrong so keep doing that.

>>11487738
Think of it as the Cat people being more evolved and civilized while the wolf is a monster directly descended from Fenrir himself. The Jaguallians are just another race of people while the giant dog is a literal mythical beast that people thought mere legend.

Though I do agree it's annoying when they introduce more one off sub-races. I doubt we'll ever see another frost Orc so it's almost a waste to even add one. It would've been cooler if he were a Shadow Orc or even just a regular Orc who ran away from the horde or something. Hell, I've been waiting ages for them to do more Woodland Goblin so Thistlethorn wasn't so lonely, but all they've done is reuse the head on a MotU Homage and now the Fox Imp, which really just feels like a "Fine, I'll do it myself" kinda thing. But it gets annoying when they're all excited about adding a new race and it ends up just being a one off.

>>11487733
Ok, that makes sense as to why the horse armor wasn't cancelled. I thought they just changed their name again.

>>11485201
How tall is King Conan Mezco?

>>11488326
While I don't actually have him, he uses the same buck as all the other Conans, which is to say he's not tall at all.

>>11488378
Do you think the new Frazetta Conan is bigger? From what I heard he's 17cm

>>11488381
Going by >>11484713 I'm going to say yes. The Mezco one felt short compared to the Legions, not dramatically so, but he certainly didn't feel bigger then them and especially didn't tower over them. But the FG Conan is clearly taller then even the big headed Atlus, who's got a huge head. If I can get around to not being lazy, I'll drag my Mezco Conan and FG Norseman out my shelf tomorrow and try and get some comparison pics. But from what I've seen, FG figures tend to run taller then most other lines, including Legions.

The Savage Crucible Conan also feels taller then the Mezco, but not by as much and I think the FG version will still come out on top.

>>11488381
Here you go.

>>11488396
excellent, thank you bro

>>11488391
thanks for your input

>>11488396
That helmet will never not make me think he just found a pot to wear on his head.

>>11487963
I love how disingenuous and ignorant you are, and it only proves how 4H rip off their customers.

You do realize that the companies you listed that make smaller figures charge less for them? Boss Fight does 1:12, so they charge $40 for their 6" figures and $25 for their 4" figures. Even Joytoy, who does rip off their customers like 4H does, charges ~$40 for their 4.5" figures and ~$80+ for their 6-10" figures. So they understand that something smaller should cost less than something bigger. (btw, did you forget that most of these companies offer better engineering and articulation than 4H do?)

Nevermind all the companies you listed act like normal toy companies do, where they sell their toys at fair wholesale prices and have agreements with retail to not undercut them.
4H doesn't have that standard retail agreement or they overcharge their retail partners too, hence Mythic Legions being $10-15 more expensive at retail than at 4H's own store. So if we actually did a fair comparison for their prices, Mythic Legions are $45-50 compared to the $30 for most of the companies you mentioned

I also love how you're pulling the "well everything you like is shit" with Hiya, because their QC is actually one of the best in the industry. They might have had a few problems initially when starting their 1:12 lines, but that got smoothed out pretty fast. Again, compare that to 4H, where they take 2-4 years to unfuck their mistakes or not at all.
Pic of 4H's lack of QC a decade after their modern start, where it becomes obvious that the lack of QC is because 4H is too cheap to test factory samples. All this could have been avoided if 4H spent $50-200 to ship a couple of figures through FedEX.
4H being cheap and greedy is why they constantly fuck up.

Heeeee's...baAAack!

>>11488474
It's kinda like playing whack-a-mole, as soon as the same old pics pop up you hide the post. I like to call it "whack-a-troll".

>>11488474
I’m not sure who’s worse honestly, subby or Necanon.

>>11488552
Probably you, since you keep bitching about your bullshit.

>>11488552
They are both clinically insane.

>>11482469
>>11482470
I have the original Berenice, and after seeing Cassia in her little purple dress I suddenly had the urge make a casual outfit for my favorite muscle maiden. A shame they aren't selling Cassia's dress in as part of an accessory pack.

Why is FG Conan $20 cheaper direct from FG compared to BBTS?

Also thank you to Slate/Red Sonja Anon from last thread. I bought three because of your post and they're awesome.

>>11488862
Something something BBTS scam site

>>11488862
Remember there is a 15% off discount code on FG site as well, don't forget to use it if you order from there.

>>11488611
Yet you're the one that decides to stir up fights

>>11489351
If I was that insane, I would have earned a name like Necanon or Subjectautist 10+ years ago.
It's not like anyone in this thread trawls the entire board for someone talking shit about Mythic Legions just so they can pick a fight and then cry to the jannies when the person you pick a fight with tells you to fuck off.

>>11489417
>if i was insane
> proceeds to make up conspiracy theory
>if i was insane
hahah
But sure, you're not trawling anything when you call people liars for speaking facts about the manufacturing process and how retail works.

You're totally not trawling by shitting on other brands, just because someone points out how 4H is fucking up, like in this thread and how 4H charges you the price of a 7" figure for a 4.5 figure.

>>11489417
.....I don't think that other guy knows what the word "trawling" means

>>11482598
fuuuuuuug...it's really tempting me.

>>11489562
It's Subby. English really is his second language. Of course he doesn't know what "trawling" means.

>>11489417
Well you are already bitching and whining about people because you can't handle being wrong about things. Yeah, you're the problem here.

>>11489581
Her elbow joints look pretty damn good for singles, I hope that's how they turn out because that's basically real life articulation.

>>11489581
Tempting, even with the huge size (SNU-SNU) but the Xesray Gladiatrix I bought was a huge disappointment with paint transfer everywhere and broken ankles. Hope they've stepped their game up since then.

So my box of skellys finally came in and they're all fantastic. Surprisingly the biggest disappointment for me is Berodach.
>equipment so bulky it limits him to a degree
>no alt hands or skeleton head (his head is fucking huge)
>only alt wrist pieces
>sword is great but the shield is just gaudy
>can be stripped down to the bare minimum easily but the fuck huge neck to chest piece removed just leaves a plain blank spot
I don't hate him but still

Saw these earlier, sorry for the shitty screengrab I couldn't find the originals. Look pretty nice.

>>11492421

>>11492423
This one was interesting as it's clearly older, but I hadn't seen the middle-eastern looking assassin/sorceress woman in the top right before. I would absolutely get her, especially if she's Arabian themed.

>>11492003
I felt the same way about the white version of this mold, for all the stuff that was impressive, there was even more that was annoying. The worst of it being the giant freaking hammer he came with as it's just an awful weapon as it's way too top heavy and getting the shaft in his hand it super frustrating.

All the other Ogre scale bucks have been fantastic, if not light on accessories. But the Knight build seems to be more annoying then anything and much of it stems from the accessories. I was tempted to get Berodach because I have a real nice giant axe I could give him, but after all the issues with Ucczakk (or however you spell it) I'm hesitant to grab another of the armored Ogre types.

>>11492421
>>11492423
Neat, I'll probably get both Barbarians, but I dunno how I feel about the Croc dude. He's cool I guess, but not really filling a gap in the collection for me.

>>11492431
Her pic has been floating about for a while, but I haven't seen any updated versions of it like I have for the other figures. But I'd be down for an assassin lady as well. Moving away from the Roman stuff and getting more fantastical is probably one of the best moves this line could make, especially if they keep filling niches other companies don't cover.

>>11484713
If you're still about, could you confirm for me that he has ankle rockers? I just watched a review and the guy seemed oblivious to half the articulation that was shown earlier. Also, how do you find him after owning it for a while?

>>11492932
Sure he has ankle rockers, perfectly functional and with good range. OTOH, if we're talking about articulation, he is lacking a calf swivel, the thigh swivel is extremely limited, and he pretty much can't 2-hand a sword because of his chest.
He has a loose arm that I guess I'll try to correct with glue.
I think it's a great figure overall. He looks fantastic, and many of the criticisms I've listed for completion about articulation are standard in figures typical of this thread.

[hahaspoilersintoy]I uploaded a review to youtube today/last night[/spoiler]

>>11493041
Thanks man, I was expecting somewhere around that level of articulation, it was the trade off to the coolness of the sculpt in this case, I appreciate the confirmation.

Nice scene, what are the little demon guys from? I've probably seen your review already heh.

>>11493229
NtA, but those are Biblical Adventures demons.

>>11484967
Hey Anon don't know if you're still about, but whilst looking in the depths of the internet for some figures, I noticed there still seem to be some Darkwolfs knocking around on American sites if you're still interested. They seem to be at around $100 though, I'm guessing because they are some PX Previews! exclusive or some shit, which just seems to be a different box as far as I can tell.

I just noticed that this Hammond Collection troon... erm... troodon dinosaur looks stupid cool. I've got to get one for random fantasy usage.

>>11494297
Creepy eyes, looks like some cave dwelling beast.

>>11493041
can the Mezco Conan two hand a sword?
Most modern lines can do that now, so it's disappointing when new figures still cant' do that

>>11494903
Yes, but it's not perfect. Sadly I don't have any good pics of it, but he can get a solid two handed grip in some poses.

I agree it's a shame the FG version can't do that. It's not even a matter of engineering, the range of motion needed is all based on sculpt. Having those super wide pecs really limits how much his arms can angle in across his chest. The original Mythic Legions figures had that issue as well, but newer torso bucks as sculpted in a way to not have that issue, even the new bare body torso mostly avoids it. So it's a shame that an otherwise fantastic looking figure like the FG Conan has a problem that's been solved by so many other companies.

The Savage Crucible Conan doesn't have that issue though, but he's only got that helmeted head sculpt and doesn't have an as iconic and instantly recognizable look to him so I can see people not being as interested in grabbing him.

>>11492431
same, really like the hooded girl
the fat ogre man i'm interested in too if some of his armor is castoff

Do you guys only/primarily collect fantasy stuff or do you just get whatever?

>>11496666
I pretty much collect whatever I like. I have a massive collection of Transformers going back to the original G1 and G.I. Joes (some I had since I was a kid), mostly 1:18 ME stuff and most of the Classified releases. I have a decent amount of Marvel Legends and Star Wars figures and vehicles, mostly variations of Troopers from both Black and TVC series. I've also been collecting McFarlane's Spawn stuff since I was a kid, though I mostly avoided their McStatue era I jumped back in when he started using articulation again. I also have a select amount of Masterverse stuff as I was a fan of He-Man but never liked the MoTUC or Origins lines. I collect a wide variety of Figma, Figuarts, Revoltech, Bring Arts, Busou Shinki and other random JP lines, mostly based on character more then anything else and have grabbed a handful of the newer Chinese figure releases like that Romankey Algar or the Oak Town Fairy Elf. I also have a good amount of Indy Kickstarter stuff like Plunderlings, AWOK figures, Savage Crucible, Skullitron and MGRs stuff. Also in addition to ME Joes and TVC Star Wars, I have a large amount of Acid Rain, Joytoy, PGV and other 1:18 figures, mostly military or Sci-Fi based as they all kind of inhabit one big 1:18 scale head canon. I also have a ton of buckets full of Lego and enough Nerf and foam flinging blasters to arm half a neighborhood.

Honestly, while I've always liked Fantasy stuff, that part of my collection didn't really take off until Mythic Legions launched ten years ago. Before then it was actually pretty hard to find decent Fantasy figures, especially in a long running line. The Toybiz LotR stuff was probably the best offering out there, which I also have a decent collection of, but mostly to scavenge accessories and gear off of. But when Legions came out, other companies followed suit with their own Fantasy offerings and it's been a non-stop ride ever since.

>>11496775
So you're an eclectic collector I see, that's kind of how I feel to an extent. I have too many interests to be locked into one theme, but at the same time, I really am just not the kind of person to want really big collections of stuff, so I feel very conflicted about to what to buy. I'm more committed to fantasy figures atm, so it feels wrong to spend on sci-fi, superhero or military stuff, I feel like I am limiting my fantasy interaction possibilities, but I'm teetering on the rails.

I've sat on sideline for over a decade at this point, watching Figma releases etc. and never took to buying anything, even if I wanted it, then since the start of the year really, I just decided to out of nowhere. I haven't bought figures since I was a kid until now. That's why I keep asking dumb questions, I feel like I am playing knowledge catch up, so, sorry about that.

On the thread topic, I just saw the designer post these and I'm even more stressed now, because that pelted one looks incredible. I am starting to regret both coming to this board and opening this thread, but I guess it may finally prompt me to actually sell/clear out a lot of things I have been putting off doing for ages.

>>11496775
I forgot to ask as well, do you have any Mezco amongst your plethora of figures? How do they compare to the other higher end ones and these newer Chinese third party import lines? I am on the cusp of getting one (heavily discounted but still quite a lot), but I feel like if I get it, I'll really, really have to call it quits for a while.

>>11496775
You sound like me, but i've fallen out of buying fantasy shit because there aren't any good fantasy lines anymore.
There's more fantasy lines today, but it's all too generic, he-man scale (too tall/buff for 1:12) and Mythic Legions has gotten way too bad.

In fact, I've also fallen out of collecting MLs and Star WArs figures, but that's generallly because of character selection. For the past 5 years, I've just been filling out the older lines i collect and supplimenting my 1:18 collection with random lines i don't collect, because sometimes Mattel releases something cool in their JP line.

And unlike you, last year i started collecting McFarlane's McStatue era figures, despite initially avoiding them because they didn't have articulation. After decades of admiring McFarlane's paint and sculpt work on them, i finally gave in.

>>11496808
Not him, but Mezco are always worth getting. The One:12 line is probably the only modern line i still buy on the regular.

If you like their aesthetics.

Western collector lines like Mezco's scratch the collector itch in ways that Japanese collector lines don't, like having better paint and sculpt work. I own quite a few Figuarts, Revoltechs, Robot Spirits, Megahouse figures, etc, but only lines like Figma and Play Arts/BringArts come close to that quality.
btw I don't buy Chinese "third party" imports, but i do buy Joytoy and Hiya lines. I also buy Hong Kong and Taiwanese lines, but they're not China.

>>11496808
>do you have any Mezco amongst your plethora of figures?
Different anon, but Mezco does some things that are great, and other things are pretty poor. I generally don't like any of their super hero figs because of the proportions, and their best work seems to be in-house and certain licensed properties. Their price-to-value proposition is getting even worse than import lines, though. I think their movie Conan is gonna be my exit ramp from them.

>>11497403
>>11497423
Thank you lads, you helped.

>>11496800
I've been "buying" toys my whole life and actively "collecting" for well over twenty years (the original Armada Optimus Prime was the first toy I specifically hunted for) so I never even entertained the notion of *not* having a giant collection. Though I still do just buy whatever I want, I mostly focused down my budget onto the various Legions lines and G.I. Joe Classified. I have an innate desire to build armies of figures, and those two lines fulfill that goal for both my modern and fantasy army needs. Mythic Legions are especially good for that since they're so generic and customizable, I can buy figures and stick em in whatever role or faction I want without having some pre-existing canon to excuse away.

And yes, /toy/ is a dangerous black hole many will never recover from. Best thing to do is really only focus on the things you like the most and don't worry what other people are flavoring of the month over. And no worries about asking questions, it's a far more interesting discussion then other conversations that can occur here.

>>11496808
Only two, their high price and character selection leave me kind of meh most of the time. But I did grab their first Conan figure since no one else did an accurate Frazetta version at the time (now we have options) and I think he's great...but he's quickly been overshadowed by even the Savage Crucible one. The only other actual Mezco I have is the Hawk P-40 figure, who is great, but mainly I bought him because he's the perfect heavy for my "Cyborgs With Weird Heads and Soft Goods" detective agency. They are solid figures though, and I have no complaints about them specifically. Definitely worth grabbing, especially if you can get one on sale.

>>11497380
I stopped collecting Marvel Stuff because for the most part I have all the characters I want, and Star Wars stuff I only focused on the Troops and again I got plenty to fill my needs. But I don't quite understand your complaints about the current fantasy lines.....what lines DO you like because I really can't think of any other non 1:12 scale fantasy lines outside of BSF's HACKS stuff.

>>11497455
>and G.I. Joe Classified.
I'm pretty sure I keep talking to you across these two threads, I need to go back to lurking, I feel guilty.

>don't worry what other people are flavoring of the month over
This is fortunately something I am pretty resistant too. A recent example is the whole excitement over these SexyIce figures atm. I saw everyone raving about them and, whilst the previous few look pretty interesting, I can see their appeal, they don't do anything for me and the new one that's like a baseball/footballer player looks ridiculously lame to me, it's bizarre. To each their own of course.

>for my "Cyborgs With Weird Heads and Soft Goods" detective agency
Hah this looks amazing, reminds of something that would be an Image Comics line. I like the L looking emo guy on the rails, you've inspired me to maybe paint something like that now heh.

And I pulled the trigger on the (on sale) Mezco and I immediately feel woozy. That's it now for really, genuinely, legitimately, actually real, I have to cool off for a while. I should have waited until after SDCC, I've made a huge mistake haven't I?

Also, back on topic, I saw that Frazetta Girls said they are supposed to be starting to ship out their Conans from tomorrow if anyone else was waiting like me.

>>11497460
before there used to be random fantasy shit, like Game of Thrones, Harry Potter, Hobbit, Magic, etc. none of them were great or bad, but there was variety, both in 1:12 and 1:18 scale.

I'm not really a fan of most modern fantasy lines, because they're super expensive for single jointed figures. And the ones that aren't single jointed, they're gigantic and don't fit in with anything.
Mythic Legion figures are also single jointed and 1/11 scale, but at least they have aesthetics going for them.
I've gotten tired of figures not being able to two hand swords/spears though. Toy engineering already peaked 20 years ago, yet most fantasy lines today still act like cheapo He-Man shit.

Most of the fantasy toys I've been buying lately are Figma Dark Souls/Eden/Demon Souls stuff. Despite basically being single jointed, their engineering gives them the range of double jointed figures.

>>11497476
Yea, I figured as much lol. /toy/ really isn't that big of a community and there's a lot of overlap. I agree with you on those Sexyice figures, the tacticool ones looked neat, but the football ones are pretty left field. Cool for those who like em, but not my thing. Though I do kinda want that mantis girl they put out.

>emo guy on the rails
Emo Girl! She's the 1000 Toys Synthetic Human, a super articulated and well engineered little figure. She's the "new recruit" of the team while Hawk and Assassin are the bickering muscle and Juzo in the back (aka Gundad) keeps the whole team in check.

And I'm sure you'll be fine with that Mezco figure, they're really well made toys and the guys behind em do put a lot of care into their stuff. I kind of regret not getting more stuff from em because they're actually a local company for me and I'd love to support em. I just don't really like their lineup enough to get too many of em.

>>11497545
The funko GoT and MTG figures? Those lines were awful. Like legit some of the worst figures I've ever bought. The GoT stuff used clear joints with a tendency to break and the MTG figures could barely get any range of motion with their joints, single or double hinged. Even the original Legions figures were better then those guys, and they had pretty awful range in their arms too. The current Mythic builds are fantastic though, can easily two hand weapons and have some of the best sculpts and details on the market.

They also seemed to have set the standard for size cause AWOK, Savage Crucible, Mezco, Frazetta Girls and so many other lines scale well with Legions, outside the giant noggins. Even chinese fantasy figures like those WoW knockoff lines or Xesray's stuff work with the Legion's scale. Hasbro's D$D stuff came up a bit short, but that line barely existed. Which is a huge shame because the idea had tons of potential. The monsters from it work well though, that Displacer Beast is, well, a beast.

>>11497625
>Emo Girl!
Apologise to her for me. I just googled it, I didn't realise you did the whole outfit thing, pretty cool anon.

>>11497672
She says "....whatever"

But yea, couldn't have her running around naked while everyone else had some nice gear.

And I FINALLY got my shipping notice for my AS6 Order. My skeleton horde will essentially be complete by this wednesday. Gives me just enough time to try and get my room back in order so I can get it all messy again with all the bits, bobs and parts I'll be switching about when I finally get them in hand.

>>11497625
>The GoT stuff used clear joints with a tendency to break
I mean, there's a reason why i shit on Mythic Legion for using shitty plastics, because my GoT figures are still intact to this day.
I'm pretty sure the Magic figures also used clear plastic joints too.

Still, we had variety back then, with humans of all sizes and clearly fantasy figures. Most figures today are just generic hemans.... aside from mythic legion.

OH, and when i talk about two handing swords, i mean something like this. If a figure can pull off this pose, it can do a lot more than just barely holding onto a really long grip sideways on the extreme end, which will look awkward in all but one or two poses.
All figures should be able to do this now, because even star Wars figures in 1:18 can do it, and i'm way more lax about 1:18 figures, since more joints can look really bad at that scale.

>>11497763
>Most figures today are just generic hemans.... aside from mythic legion.
You have the Warcraft/WoW figures that are Orcs, Tauren, Elves, Undead, Murlocs, bears, literal demon form Illidan etc. albeit at a bit of a larger scale. You have Savage Crucible with lizard men and upcoming fish men, Xesray minotaurs and soon a big lizard guy, Maestro Union with all kinds of animal warriors and oni, there is that company that does dinosaur warriors, and we've had multiple werewolves knocking around.

I actually think there aren't enough actual humans, most of the human warriors we have had so far have been barbarians aside from mythic legions. I want more Greek, Arab, Native American, African inspired fantasy figures personally, it's why I was excited about the Xesray ones. I would also like some more classic fantasy stuff like Dwarf and Elf dedicated lines, with all the flare that goes with them. And ofc we need more monsters/beasts, but I don't see this mass of "only humans" you're speaking about.

>>11498088
Too add a bit more after thinking on it, I also feel the issue is the "generic" part of what you said. I think we have yet to have anyone really do the classic D&D style wizards, rangers, warlocks, druids etc. Mythic Legions are pretty good at the pseudo historical guys, knights, viking-esque warriors, but most of their stuff really doesn't evoke that classic fantasy feel for me. It's cool with nice variety, but their line has its own atmosphere. I've yet to see anyone really manage to nail it, i think Savage Crucible are getting close with stuff like Nashorn. (I would walk on hot coals for a proper D2 Amazon figure)

Bruh...
Also sorry I killed the thread.

>>11498088
Almost everything you posted comes out at a glacial pace, and because some are from unknown, sketchy companies, their toys basically don't exist.
It's like with those third party 1:12 scale threads we used to have, where it was a single person making 95% of the posts and 5 other people just asking about the figures he was posting. Almost no one bought the toys, so who knows if a figure ever got released. So that thread no longer exists because of that..... and because the few figures that did become popular, practically everyone had problems with their toys breaking.

Man, i lurked the fuck out of those threads, but could never pull the trigger on so many toys because sketchy unknown companies make sketchy toys. And then that slow death of Generals/topics when people give up on toylines that breaks.

>>11498625
Fair enough I suppose. The problem isn't even really toys to me then. You're basically saying "why aren't Hasbro or Mafex/Figuarts making fantasy figures?" to which the answer is that there is currently basically zero mainstream fantasy presence at all. You gave an example of Game of Thrones, Harry Potter and Lord of the The Rings, two franchises from forever ago (one is basically just one set of three films) and one that was from 10 years ago at this point and drastically declined in interest about 10 seconds after it finished. Figuarts just started a LoTR line and I just saw Frodo and Aragorn on clearance sale on Nin-Nin Game.

Outside of video games, which is also fairly barren of anything good and new, nobody is doing anything with fantasy to even make toys of, it's why all we have are third party smaller companies who can be successful satisfying a small audience. You and me know there is like infinite potential adapting book material, game charcters or just using your imagination, but clearly that's just not how the big companies who can actually produce quantity quickly think. There is just almost no fantasy presence in anything and most new fantasy material is atrocious, I mean seriously, the last two things that can considered to have any real noteable impact are probably Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 and I would guess if you asked 100 people at the mall who Laezel or Malenia are, maybe 3 would know what you were talking about.

That's how I see it anyway.

>>11498529
It was time for a new one anyway

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