Tamagotchi Paradise is finally out!... For some people. Did you manage to get one? What are your first impressions? Do you care at all?

>>11491809 (OP)
holy shit what is this fagnime tranny bullshit this board has gone downhill

>>11491812
are you okay anon

>>11491809 (OP)
I will probably buy one later on. Bandai will never release the kiosks in my country anyways.
I hate the exclusive characters been locked behind buying two devices (nobody I know cares about Tamagotchi) on top of been device specific, I want the dragon but I'm not buying two devices.

None of the stores near me had it. They just that the uni, that I already have.
One had the Pix, I bought it. I'll get the Paradise in few months

>>11491860
so it's confirmed that some of the Tama are locked behind the docking feature? I hate the japanese and their retarded gimmicks
>>11491863
>Pix
nice. Did you get the Pix Party? That should have a couple more features. I'm doubtful stores in my country will ever carry the Paradise

A Japanese bookstore near me was selling the Puchipuchi Omisecchi fanbook, so I was able to get my hands on it. If anyone's interested, I'll try to translate the interviews in them. There's three interviews, one for the staff who worked on the games, one for JINCO, the main artist for Tamagotchi, and one for Dokomusu, the streamer who helped revive Omisecchi and Tamagotchi's popularity in Japan.

>>11491809 (OP)
Family's shipping from Japan so I should get mine soon. Really excited about getting Dekababymarutchi specifically.

>>11491885
>Family's shipping from Japan so I should get mine soon. Really excited about getting Dekababymarutchi specifically.
Super cool anon, do let us know what you think about it once you get your hands on it! I think I'm going to wait a bit before getting one, I kind of want to see if it's actually worth it or if it's a completely different experience entirely.
In the meanwhile, I finally managed to get my hands on what I think is the coolest looking Connection, the True Friends - Blue Graffiti! Can't wait for it to finally arrive!
[spoiler]the Pink one is also great but alas I couldn't find one[/spoiler]

>>11492112
oh fuck I forgot this board doesn't have spoilers. Me so retardy!

Update on the Omori Tamagotchis:
While they’re still delayed till next quarter, they’ve release production made pictures of them and they turned out great. Definitely excited to get mine in hand later this year.

>>11491809 (OP)
Don't get mine until the middle of August. Had to preorder the worst one because the other two were always sold out instantly. I like that the characters are mostly like regular animals and not stupid baby dolls or weird sperm lizards. I heard that there are weather effects but I'm trying not to spoil everything before I can actually play on mine. One thing I heard is that the screens scratch really easily.

>>11491809 (OP)
>What are your first impressions?
The dial is annoying. The physical problem is that it makes the device look retarded, it should have been something like a scroll wheel that follows the form of the device. You pretty much have to use both hands, or use some kind of weird claw grip, to use the device which goes into the next problem, zooming in and out is a requirement since important menus are scattered throughout different zooms. The device always starts up zoomed out on the planet (which has completely useless menus), and then clean up is on the first zoom, feeding is on the 2nd zoom, and stats are on the 3rd zoom. Its very annoying when you just want to quickly see if your tama needs anything.

Everything else about it has been great so far. I like that it feels like you're taking care of an actual animal and not a child. You get to choose when your tama wakes up and goes to sleep (which can be a good or bad thing depending on preference, I suppose). Playing games are separated between with and without your tama, so some games build their happiness while others give you money (you can play the money games while your tama is asleep). Theres nothing to fucking do at the beginning since everything is locked depending on your planet level and your tama isnt very needy which only exacerbates the feeling that theres nothing to do.

>>11491809 (OP)
>What are your first impressions?
The dial is annoying. The physical problem is that it makes the device look retarded, it should have been something like a scroll wheel that follows the form of the device. You pretty much have to use both hands, or use some kind of weird claw grip, to use the device because of the dial, which goes into the next problem: zooming in and out is a requirement since important menus are scattered throughout different zooms in a very optimized way. The device always starts up zoomed out on the planet (which has completely useless menus), then clean up is on the first zoom, feeding is on the 2nd zoom, and stats are on the 3rd zoom. Its very annoying when you just want to quickly see if your tama needs anything (3 zooms just to see how hungry/happy it is).

Everything else about it has been great so far. I like that it feels like you're taking care of an actual animal and not a child. You get to choose when your tama wakes up and goes to sleep (which can be a good or bad thing depending on preference, I suppose). Playing games are separated between with and without your tama, some games build their happiness while others give you money (you can play the money games while your tama is asleep, which I guess can also be a problem since I have 9000 points but I cant even buy anything yet since its all locked because my planet isnt high enough level yet).
Theres nothing to fucking do at the beginning since everything is locked behind your planet level and your tama isnt very needy which only exacerbates the feeling that theres nothing to do. I dont like that the child>teen stage is only dependent on what food it eats the most.

Anyway, this has just been a stream of consciousness. Thanks for reading.

>>11491809 (OP)
>What are your first impressions?
The dial is annoying. The physical problem is that it makes the device look retarded, it should have been something like a scroll wheel that follows the form of the device. You pretty much have to use both hands, or use some kind of weird claw grip, to use the device because of the dial. Which goes into the next problem: using the dial is a requirement since important menus are scattered throughout different zooms in a very unoptimized way. The device always starts up zoomed out on the planet (which has completely useless menus), then clean up is on the first zoom, feeding is on the 2nd zoom, and stats are on the 3rd zoom. Its very annoying when you just want to quickly see if your tama needs anything (3 zooms just to see how hungry/happy it is).

Everything else about it has been great so far. I like that it feels like you're taking care of an actual animal and not a child. You get to choose when your tama wakes up and goes to sleep (which can be a good or bad thing depending on preference, I suppose). Playing games are separated between with and without your tama, some games build their happiness while others give you money (you can play the money games while your tama is asleep, which I guess can also be a problem since I have 9000 points but I cant even buy anything yet since its all locked because my planet isnt high enough level yet).
Theres nothing to fucking do at the beginning since everything is locked behind your planet level and your tama isnt very needy which only exacerbates the feeling that theres nothing to do. I dont like that the child>teen stage is only dependent on what food it eats the most.

Anyway, this has just been a stream of consciousness. Thanks for reading.

>your tama isnt very needy
Oh, yeah, and this has the same problem as all modern Tamagotchis in that since the evolution timers are so short and getting care mistakes is so difficult, because of how little attention they need, its actually harder to get the low care tamas than the good care ones (dumb mechanic that I'm baffled that they havent found a work around yet).

>>11492992
very informative anon, thank you. How much do you feel you still have to unlock?
>>11493013
>its actually harder to get the low care tamas than the good care ones
I mean, whatever, as long as it's hard. I do agree that it's the bad kind of hard though, since it takes a lot of trial and error to understand completely and it's very limiting, especially when most of the newer devices don't even have a discipline button. I still don't agree with tama evolving based on care mistakes, it doesn't feel right when the tama you want has to suffer like a bitch before it gets to your preferred evolution. I'd much rather they evolve based on the games they play or the shit they eat, or something else entirely

>>11493056
>I still don't agree with tama evolving based on care mistakes, it doesn't feel right when the tama you want has to suffer like a bitch before it gets to your preferred evolution.
You're looking at it the wrong way-- care mistake-based growth was originally envisioned as go-with-the-flow in terms of how you raise your Tamagotchi, where you get certain evos based on naturally messing up along the way, which is why there's a challenge factor to getting perfect cares in the past and was a vital part of the game flow. Old bad care characters likewise were treated as punishments for doing poorly, which reflected both in their design and in-universe personality (Maskutchi, who is perfect care but many discipline mistakes, is selfish and mean, Kuchipatchi, perfect discipline but poor care, is kindhearted but fat, lazy and dim, Connection's Gozarutchi and Masktchi don't brush their teeth nor bathe and were originally characterized as LARPers who sit around watching TV before the former was eventually changed to actually being a ninja). Caretaking WAS the game.
Nowadays it seems like they keep the care mistake mechanic without understanding that it fundamentally doesn't work with the new gameflow. Growths are shorter so there's less of a natural element to make mistakes over time unless you're actively being neglectful. It's one thing to miss a discipline call or let the needs go unchecked because you're busy in the old entries with slow growths, but now, the meters deplete so slowly and growths are so fast that you have to go out of your way to be less than perfect. Likewise, the original philosophy of "flawed growth = flawed personality" is long gone too. There's not much separating Hachitchi from Papillotchi in terms of how they behave, yet one's a bad care while the other's a perfect.
Then again apparently to get Babymarutchi's secret form you need to let your Tamagotchi idle for 4 hours from birth without doing anything, so maybe Bandai's just having a laugh.

>>11492992
I'm still on the fence about the paradise, right now people seem to like it but stuff like the dial, planet level andmenus you describe sound terrible. Guess I will buy a connection first and the paradise later.
Also, there are rumors of a 4th paradise in the future so it might be better to just wait.

>>11492992
Most of your complaints about the dial itself and the zoom feature are nonsensical. Who cares if you have to use two hands, are you fighting a gun battle or driving while you use the device? I am curious about the build quality of the zoom dial, however. Does it feel sturdy or do you think it's going to be a chronic point of failure/frustration over the lifetime of the Paradise?

>>11493102
>where you get certain evos based on naturally messing up along the way
of course, I realize that. My point is that since that hasn't been an actual thing in decades and tama just pop out with random personalities assigned to them nowadays, they could maybe change how the system works entirely.. or, of course, go back to making care mistakes an actual threat, but I doubt they would
>>11493249
Same here, it looks fun enough but I want to wait and see a bit more of it before I make my mind up. It's not like it's gonna get discontinued right away anyways

>>11493056
>How much do you feel you still have to unlock?
A lot. I'm on day 3 and my planet is lvl 2. Most things unlock at lvl 4 and 6.
>>11493102
This
>>11493276
>Who cares if you have to use two hands
You can handle every other Tamagotchi with 1 hand but with the Paradise I instinctively wake up the device with one hand then have to make a weird claw grip to zoom into the planet (which is mandatory). I like being able to quickly pull the device out of my pocket, tap a, look at how my tama is, and then determine what it needs all with one hand and in a matter of seconds. You cant do this on the Paradise, not just because of the dial but because you have to zoom in 3 times to get to the stats menu, then zoom out to feed, and then zoom out again to clean up poop. The menu philosophy is completely backwards where all the important stuff is deeper down and you have to work backwards. Its like if stats were the last icon and feeding were the second to last icon on the Connection.
>Does it feel sturdy or do you think it's going to be a chronic point of failure/frustration over the lifetime of the Paradise?
The dial wiggles around a little bit. Its not going to break off but the spin is kind of loose but I think its supposed to be that way.

>>11493056
>How much do you feel you still have to unlock?
A lot. I'm on day 3 and my planet is lvl 2. Most things unlock at lvl 4 and 6.
>>11493102
This. You have to make an effort to treat your tama like shit. It just feels wrong whereas it was a natural process in the past.
>>11493249
>stuff like the dial, planet level andmenus you describe sound terrible
They arent bad, you just cant do everything right at the start. I'm sure the everything gets a lot better at level 6.
>>11493276
>Who cares if you have to use two hands
You can handle every other Tamagotchi with 1 hand but with the Paradise I instinctively wake up the device with one hand then have to make a weird claw grip to zoom into the planet (which is mandatory). I like being able to quickly pull the device out of my pocket, tap a, look at how my tama is, and then determine what it needs all with one hand and in a matter of seconds and never having to go to the bottom row. You cant do this on the Paradise, not just because of the dial but because you have to zoom in 3 times to get to the stats menu, then zoom out to feed, and then zoom out again to clean up poop. The menu philosophy is completely backwards where all the important stuff is deeper down and you have to work backwards. Its like if stats were the last icon and feeding were the second to last icon on the Connection.
>Does it feel sturdy or do you think it's going to be a chronic point of failure/frustration over the lifetime of the Paradise?
The dial wiggles around a little bit. Its not going to break off but the spin is kind of loose but I think its supposed to be that way.

>>11493102
>>11493288
Something like a Princess Maker system where you might train specific stats would be a nice alternative.
You would be actively working towards what you want, instead of intentionally not doing something.

>>11493452
They already had the perfect system with the P's. No idea why they just dropped it after.

i wish the whole trend of some characters being intentionally worse than others would die already. nyorotchi is one of my favorites because of how silly and weird he looks and his thing about getting mad when he's hungry and he's always hungry. but i can't stand that smug faggot normal type ass mametchi. being a pokemon fan is pain too, why is japan like this

>>11493559
>but i can't stand that smug faggot normal type ass mametchi. being a pokemon fan is pain too, why is japan like this
I feel like the appeal of Mametchi is something that's completely lost in translation. A lot of love from Japanese fans comes from how his "perfect" status ends up making him come across like he has a stick up his ass since he always uses keigo with everyone, which makes him seem emotionally distant, while saying things that come off blunt in a psychopathic way. It also serves to contrast Kuchipatchi's kindhearted but dim nature, and they end up playing off each other very well. (It's also probably why Memetchi flopped as a mascot too, the boke/tsukkomi duo routine leaves little room for a third party to fill so she ends up being nothing more than "token girl".)

>>11493559
As >>11493655 said, I think the joke is that hes such a goodie two shoes that he becomes unlikable.

>>11492112
>what I think is the coolest looking Connection
What about my translucent glittery orange?

>>11494447
I gotta say, see-through shells can be very hit or miss for me. This one looks pretty nice though, I especially like the background's design
>no antenna

>>11494491
>no antenna
Yeah it's the first Connection from 2004

>>11491809 (OP)
tried preordering one from amazon jp to try and get it earlier but its taking a while to ship so I guess it will be a while before I get my hands on it.
in the meantime, im running my meets. I heard that it's way easier to put in custom characters now so I want to try it when I get the chance.

I bred my 1st tama and got an ayyyyy.
I like that you can straight up get rejected but it's not a once a day thing, so you can keep scrolling through breeding candidates until you find a match. No dating like on the Meets. I also noticed that there's no indication of genders anywhere. Did Tamagotchi go woke?

>>11494936
They're aliens, they don't need sexes and having them wouldn't add any game value. Either they would make some tamas always be male and some always female halving the potential combinations, or they would do anything else involving sexes that would be functionally identical.

>>11494945
You do know that genders have been a thing in Tamagotchi for 2 decades, right?

>>11494945
You do know that genders have been a thing in Tamagotchi for almost 3 decades, right?

>>11494960
Sexes, not genders, and explain what the distinction means on devices where any tama can be either sex. Why even bother?

>>11494963
>Sexes, not genders

>>11494936
>I also noticed that there's no indication of genders anywhere
It's probably meant to harken back to the original and early Connection era, where characters weren't tied to gender. I actually prefer this system since in most devices where characters were gender-locked the male designs were much better than the female waifuslop.

>>11494995
The Western Tamagotchi community's filled with people like this, never forget the screeching over Harry Potter Nanos.

>>11491860
>I hate the exclusive characters been locked behind buying two devices
You actually need access to all three as the secret character on a device isn't unlocked until your device docks with the other two shells.

>>11491885
>>11492992
My Pink Land came in the mail today, so I've been giving it a go. A complaint I have when it comes to the dial isn't the shape or anything, but rather how much you have to commit to turning to actually change zoom levels. Oftentimes I'll do a quick flick to enter the inner layers, and the device will clearly read my inputs since it zooms in halfway before backing out again.
Unfortunately, my hopes of getting Dekababymarutchi were immediately squashed by the fact that his stats apparently deplete at a ridiculous pace (losing hunger every 5 minutes), rendering him a joke character. On the bright side, old characters you've raised will stick around as NPCs, so I can have him around as a friend, just not as the active main Tamagotchi.
Something I do like about the Paradise is how lived-in the world feels, even if there's no TamaTown-like society and it's mainly nature, seeing things happen in that outdoors space feels a lot less confined than the Smart and Uni's almost insular world. I also like the fact that previous Tamagotchi you raised stick around, while I know the theming is specifically to create your own wildlife, I like that the past guys you raised actually matter and don't go away-- earlier entries were very hit or miss with this with only the Plus/Connection-era's respective tie-in apps and websites (along with v4's Cell Phone item) and the gene mix entries' babysitter parallel actually using past gens in a meaningful way.
All that said, I find it curious how Pochitchi in particular still uses the Connection-to-Uni era artstyle for his sprites when every other legacy character has been redesigned in one way or another. He looks nothing like his official art, and while I'm glad he's the same as ever, it makes me wonder what the reason is.

>>11493013
I might have to redact this. It seems like care mistakes from both child and teen contribute to what adult you get. Child form can be quite needy so its possible to rake up care mistakes without intentionally meaning to. You can avoid this by using the sitter which I think is the best of both worlds.
>>11495889
Yeah I like that its more nature focused and that you're observing a biome. Its like raising your own Tamagotchi zoo.

Do these historically have stocking issues post-release in the states? I have one preordered but I've come to loathe the shell color. I've already seen some rumors going around about new shells coming out later in the year, any chance they could be true?

>>11495889
Playing it some more, a big gripe I have with the Paradise so far is that teen and adult stages can't freely swap between biomes, which ends up feeling pretty restrictive in an arbitrary way, since it means the only way to check out what's going on in the other biomes is to raise a new character entirely, rather than at least have one active character per biome. It also means nobody's able to cross-mingle either, you can't have a land adult visit the sky biome for example (this also means Kuchipatchi's annoyingly segregated from the rest of the legacy cast).
The game variety is also nice, but at the end of the day, I feel like the ratio of time spent compared to the rewards gained from completing them are skewed. You're not penalized for eating snacks, so those will always be preferable to the long happiness minigames when you're simply looking to keep your stats in check (combined with the tedium of the UI the other anon previously mentioned, you'll likely want to pick the most convenient option to put up with that), and the reward payout for arcade games are all the same, so it ends up feeling better to do the baby minigame for easy money over spending more time on the other games for less reward.

>>11495653
That's bullshit. I want the dragon but I don't want to buy the same device 3 times and I don't even like the pink shell. Not to mention the other 2 are kind of ugly in comparison.

>>11500742
Honestly feels like the only time Tamagotchi entries were self-sufficient outside the vintage era was in the localized releases. The Japanese Plus entries almost always needed supplemental devices to keep them from being barren, and the Color era was even worse with shit like needing to connect with SIX devices for Dazzilitchi alongside all those special gene mix versions, with some requiring 3 devices to unlock all locations.
I wish the global devices took more cues from the Western ones in that regard rather than copying the worst aspects of the JP ones.

>>11500742
Just get on the maglev and pop on over to your local megacity to meet up with polite strangers who will be glad to connect devices for mutual benefit you aren't some baka gaijin New Worlder are you

Guess I will just buy a connection and wait to see if they release a new shell or something.
btw, is it worth it to buy a V1 or should I just get the anniversary V3? I see someone selling a v1 in marketplace.

>>11501514
>btw, is it worth it to buy a V1 or should I just get the anniversary V3?
The Connections v1-v3 have the same core caretaking gameplay, but v1 is usually seen as significantly worse than the v2 and v3, since there's far less content which includes less characters (v2 and v3 triple the roster, with v3 having all of v1's adults and v2 having the entire v1 cast barring the babies), less games (only two compared to v2's 4 and v3's 6/7), no special foods and money/shop system, and items require connecting with another device to unlock instead of being bought from the shop, and they're far more restrictive too since only specific characters get specific items and you lose them when starting a new generation.
You're probably best off getting the v3 remake, or a v2 if you're dead set on v1's tone since it has the old roster.