Thread 11620160

Origins/Cartoon Collection:
Mart Taylor Origins Sketchbook edition of He-Man and Man-E-Faces revealed.
>Sting-Or on sale now on MC.
>Multi-Bot announced. Preorders on Amazon. Shipping in Feb
>Dragstor leaked early at Oz Con. STILL no mass release date (though rumoured for Dec 9).
>CC Swift Wind/She-Ra on MC available now. Still available
>Snake Lair crowdfund over. Pythonus failed to unlock
>Lords of Power Castle Grayskull up for order on Amazon. Going cheaper than the regular version as of posting.
>FRIGHT ZONE still in stock at BBTS.
>Wave 1 of 200x He-Man, Stratos, and Tri-klops up for preorder, deluxe Beast Man shipping now. He-Man, Stratos, and Tri-Klops have been seen on shelves in Aus.
>Wave 2 official images are available.
>CC King Randor and Queen Marlena revealed. Randor seen on shelves in Aus as well.
>Past MC exclusives still available on Mattel Creations.
>Sketchbook Sy-Klone and Spikor both now available at Target.
>Two-Bad is confirmed sculpted but remains unrevealed.
>1 MORE Preternia character confirmed.
>Great Black Wizard revealed. We are not happy apparently.

Masterverse:
>Up for in-stock and shipping now: Mantenna, Mosquitor
>Anti-Eternia He-Man sold out at BBTS
>Dragstor, Despara, New Eternia Keldor coming soon
>Vintage Collection releasing Teela and Man-At-Arms

Crossovers:
>Skele-Shredder available on MC.
>Optimus He-Man and Evil Ghost of Starscream still on pre-order at MC.
>Thundercats wave 3 is Panthor-Man, another Panthro, another Lion-O.
>Stranger Things Skeletor and Demogorgon still up on Amazon.

Mondo:
200x He-man available for pre-order on BBTS.

Archive:
https://archive.palanq.win/toy/search/subject/MotU/

Previous general >>11599568

TQ: If you could create a while new faction (good guys or bad guys!) for MOTU what would it be?

First time making a general. Sorry if I screwed it up, I tried updating all the information in the last general, and adding anything I could find.

>>11619553
>>11619579
>>11619772
Like I said, maybe the light in Anti-Eternia works differently. So here is my edit.

>>11620160 (OP)
We all love Skeletor, he's great. But Hordak is cooler.

>>11620160 (OP)
Anchor post for hot bitches

>>11620303
Hell yeah.
Axel bruan needs to get in on this.

This should be a good week...not only should we be getting the official reveal images for the Club Grayskull figure that goes on sale on the 18th, but "Sword of Flaws #2" goes on sale on the 19th so we should get the preview of that too, shouldn't we?
We'll have lots to talk about

Also, do you think they'll announce the next batch of MC figures before Christmas? After this Dec 9th sale, we'll be all caught up, and we know the retail offerings for the beginning of 2026, but nothing about the first MC releases for next year

>>11620370
>Dec 9th sale
What's that?

>>11620160 (OP)
>TQ: If you could create a while new faction (good guys or bad guys!) for MOTU what would it be?
Maybe a do-gooder line of knights that mean well, but do bad things on occasions because they override morals with rules? Ans they all have a knight motif but its also based around warriors? And they have a knights of the roundtable sort of thing going?
>>11620164
I love the female demon head motif they went with
>>11620303
That art seems pretty close to what they'd look like in real life

>>11620303
Yannick Bouchard
https://www.instagram.com/p/DQIlAvREQXc/

shows off the behind the scenes of making it as well

StinKing says this thread stinks!

>>11620548
OK, that's good.

>>11620368
Succubug and Tarangela are OCs created by our good friend Axel for inclusion in Revolution that got cut for time

>>11620629
Looking up art from the comic, it was drawn by a guy called Daniel HDR, so I'd assume he's responsible for the redesigns

>>11620548
>StinKing
fucking lol

>>11620629
Kind of surprised only bug girls were designed for Revolution, not one bug girl, one cat girl and one magician in a burqa.

>>11620646
The last one wouldn't have fit Rev Hordak's MO of "fuck magic" they were going with, and Motherboard took the role of Hordak's right hand lady so she's that universe's "Shadow Weaver but for tech"

>>11620629
>Allude to fat chick being a succubus
>As if fat chick is alluring to men and they would want to sleep with her
lol wut?

>>11620719
Ticks are bugs that "get fat" (swell several times in size) when they suck you. You're overthinking one of MotU 's punny name.

>>11620629
>>11620630
So basically Hordak is Darkseid and Succubug is Granny Goodness

>>11620749
She looks more like she's a stink bug than a tick to me

>>11620629
>>11620840
>stink bug
>Axel designs fat girl to stink

Lol. Ok Axel, you've earned yourself an extra Snakeman.
Someone should do the "no, she's not interested" meme with Tarangela, Stinkubug and any male character of their choice

>>11620933
>>11620936
It's fucking Red Shadow

Eldor AND Great Black Wizard btfo lmao

>>11620951
Who the fuck are these people. I just thought Preternia was dinosaurs boobs old and wizard heman

>>11620936
>>11620951
Alright guys, who asked for this shit ?

>>11620971
Axel?

>>11620973
>>11620971
>>11620959
>>11620951
>>11620936
>>11620933
mattel please fuck off

>>11620981
Mattel right now:

>>11620951
I'm a hardcore origins collector but genuinely what the fuck is the point of this guy? I will skip.

>>11621001
The point is "we need something cheap with lots of reuse that we can bilk the paypiggies with"
Now they can save both Eldor and GBW for next year to force you to renew your membership, knowing you'll pay it because you don't wanna miss Eldor, do you?

>>11620936
>but they were all of them decieve, for another OC was made
as someone who only started collecting MOTU figs at the start of Origins era, I welcome these new characters. I still want those chameleon bros too.

>>11621004
>renew your membership,
it's $10 so not a big deal, a mcchicken is $3 so I am willing to give up 3.3333 mcchickens a year to get access to new OC motu figs. I buy 3 and resell them to nonmembers for $10 the price I paid for plus shipping on ebay.

>>11621001
To pad out POG line. Expect Gladiator and Best Lord next.

>>11621001
>I'm a hardcore origins collector
>doesn't know about relavence of characters in the box and card art or nu-minicomics
I don't think you know what hardcore means anon.

>>11621013
I know red shadow it's just what am I supposed to do with this guy? Team him up with He-Ro?

>>11620719
>As if fat chick is alluring to men and they would want to sleep with her
You should try browsing /tv/ more often.
Or not.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/215802802/#215802802
And before you pass judgement on me, I'm not like that. My ideal succubus would be a 6'+ Amazon with perky B-cups and bipolar disorder. I have a very specific type.

>>11621094
Yes. Assemble your POG line 3 figures a year.

>>11621094
Army build them as creatures serving Beast Man

>>11620936
>it's not Great Black Wizard
>>11620951
>it's even lower than the bottom of the barrel
I thought my prediction that it would be GBW was funny enough, but it stemmed from the idea that because the snake haters kicked up such a stink, that Mattel would repay you all by giving you Axel shit that would make you pray for more snakes.
But I don't think I could have possibly predicted anything as shit as fucking Red Shadow out of the gate.
>>11621006
I still want Cham-or and Dart-os. I don't hate all of Axel's OCs, but Red Shadow might be the weakest of them all.

>>11621006
>branded with the Snake Men logo
>obviously not a snake
I want to see a cartoon episode where Lizard Man is harassed by Snake Men insisting he belongs to them.

>>11621011
>Expect Gladiator and Best Lord next.
Best Lord, or Worst Lord?

>>11621099
>a 6'+ Amazon with perky B-cups and bipolar disorder.
So Nu-Catra if the art style didn't make characters completely flat?

>>11621006
>>11621118
Hear me out:
You could make it work like a "No Homer's allowed" joke where Lizard Man wants to join but can't with Cham-or being the other Homer.

>>11621118
>branded with the Snake Men logo
>obviously not a snake
I believe the backstory is that they are a race that had been enslaved by the Snake Men. It ties in nicely with the Saurod bio from Classics.

>>11620936
I might get this. I have an idea.

>>11620160 (OP)
>Randor seen on shelves in Aus as well.
Picked mine up yesterday. He's good, except for some really bad paint on the left shoulder.
Also I don't know if this has been discussed, The figures are using face printing on the heads now.

>>11621120
I thought Nu-Catra was shorter than Adora. Also she looks like she's binding her chesticles, so they are probably B-cups. But that bipolar personality combined with a pixie cut? Damn. Would let her ruin my life.

>>11620951
>>11620936
Oh what the fuck, I thought it was the blue wolf monster from the Grayskull dungeon grate.

Pass.

>>11620933
>>11620936
>>11620951
Literally who is this? Literally, actually, for real, who the fuck is this?

>>11621133
Post some pictures.

how's the robe, restricting?

>>11621144
For a second before I read the description I thought it might be a Skelcon based on the spear accessory.

>>11620933
Motu sisters, I am sorry.
This feels like Mattel is punishing me for spamming them with Raz porn.Then all the non stop Snake hating (how could it be a hate crime if it felts so good Daddy Mattel?) And then being mean to their homegirl Tiff over her shit comic.
>it was still that bad

For her revenge she took it all the way to the top.
>Eldor sucks but I get why you'd make him.
>Gay Bnigger Whizzerd is worse character but could make a cool 5.5" dude.
I KNOW that Tiff specially told them to make Red Shadow. She's got the clout and she knows this is worse than any snake repaint.
She did it all because I told her she didn't win.
>she really didn't though

Now all of you must suffer for my sins. I'm so sorry.
>they could have made Two Bad
>they could have made Wrap Trap
>they could have made New Adventures Dart-Os

I think next year I am going to withhold my membership fees until Mattel gives me a full list of characters and their release dates. This cock tease waiiting for supreme dissappointment isn't doing it for me. Also

>Masterverse Anti-Eternia He-Man is gone already. To the same Valhalla as BA Skeletor, Webstor and Ninjor no doubt.
Fuck

>>11621133
post the minicomic.

>>11621152
Supposedly it's this guy in the dungeon of Grayskull. Hoping the mask is removable. He also hung around Moss Man in Preternia.

>>11621169
She's not calling you back. Dont be needy.

>>11621174
I'm not being serious. Just tried to make myself laugh instead of rageposting.

Except for this part. I meant this
>I think next year I am going to withhold my membership fees until Mattel gives me a full list of characters and their release dates. This cock tease waiiting for supreme dissappointment isn't doing it for me.

>>11621152
I checked his bio in MOTU character ecyclopedia. The whole thing is basically "part of Grayskull's Heroic Warriors, was there when He-Ro died, wears mask, has red streak."

>>11621178
Oh yeah, they burned trough last reserves of my trust with that.

Fucking Red Shadow. They broke the bottom of the barrel and started digging.

>>11621173
I don't know who told you that, but have never heard or seen any indication that Red Shadow is the dungeon beast.
I think you've been had by a headcanoner who equates a superficial similarity (the fur) with being the same character.

Fans are like that. They don't recognize something and instead of just accepting they don't recognize it, say that it's whatever character closest matches.
I remember a couple years ago seeing posts of people assuming the purple cyclops was Flogg, for example

>>11621169
>Then all the non stop Snake hating
You reap what you sow. You thought it couldn't get worse than Snakes, and now you will live to see Axel made horrors beyond your comprehension.

>>11621158
>Post some pictures.
Alrighty.

>>11621172
>post the minicomic.
Shall I post here or do a brief read along on /co/?

>>11621189
Here's the paint issue. I'm sure it's just an isolated issue on mine, but if you see multiple on the shelf be sure to compare them.

>>11621190
>how's the robe, restricting?
Not even slightly. A very pliable material and fairly thin. They gave the shoulders plenty of clearance without it gapping.

>>11621190
>>11621189
Best case would be to combine all the pages into one image, otherwise let's just go /co/

>>11621193
The figure actually works well without the robe too.

>>11621196
Ankles are a little restricted.

>>11621197
For anyone that might be interested for how the robe works on other figures. You could keep the harness on for CC He-Man (or Faker in this case), if you're willing to stretch the robe a bit.

>>11621200
Definitely won't stretch over the 200X harness though.

>>11621196
Awesome pics.
Can you put robe on other people. I want to see if it looks like one of boxer robes or perhaps a nightobe or bahrobe.

>>11621200
>>11621204

>>11621205
You work fast, lol.

>>11621196
CC Count Morzo should be an easy cash grab with this. He better come with Eternia Flowers

>>11621205
I don't really wanna spend all afternoon part-swapping figures around. I picked the two that I did to give a general idea.
If there is a specific figure, and I have it in my collection I can do that one.
In the mean time I'll be over in /co/ doing the read along. If other anons want to join and turn it into a general MOTU discussion, that'd be great.

Comic here
>>151223410

>>11621227
>>>/co/151223410
Let's try that again.

>>11621227
>>11621229
Don't feel bad. I've been here about 15 years and I still can never remember how to cross-post.

>>11621236
You can post the full link and the site will shorten it for you

>>11621239
Like so?
>>>/co/151223410

>>11621255
Well hot dog. I'll be remembering that.

>>11621200
This is kind of cool. Reminds me of Mark Taylor’s Prince Adam sketch where he wasn’t He-Man’s disguise. He had shifty loyalties and sounded like he could be troublesome compared to Randor.

>>11620951
>>11620936
>>11620933
That is kind of lame imo. I am all for new figures but the design isn't that good imo.
Why can't we get >>11621006 instead?

CC Dragoon and Dree Elle 2-pack when?

>>11621341
there is a lot of sexual energy here

>>11620629
>OCs created by our good friend Axel
So a lazy rule 63 Webstor and a fat girlboss. You suck at character design Axel, please stop.

>>11621144
>I thought it was the blue wolf monster from the Grayskull dungeon grate.
That would of been awesome, so no have this literal who from Axel's sketchbook instead thanks for the subscription fee anons.

Sincerely Mattel

>>11621173
>Supposedly it's this guy in the dungeon of Grayskull.
If they do combine these two concepts and include an alternate head without the stupid mask this rando will be redeemable.

>>11621374
>Girl Webstor
>Girl Leech
>Male Scorpia
>Tech Skeletor
>Snake Nepthu
>Snake Zilora
>Gold Roboto
>things he copied from random pieces of art like a sticker or a minicomic background panel or concept art and called it "his design"
>completely generic fantasy stock character like a basic skeleton soldier and a cyclops
>When take away the ripoffs, the copies and the generics, all you have left is....Bandwidth?

>>11621229
A perfect reaction in this for >>11620933
>>11620936
>>11620951

>>11621343
>there is a lot of sexual energy here
Naked Male Veiled Female

Given that Mattel gets the DC license back next year, we have discussed the potential for cross-over, the question I have is would you want the DC heroes to lean savage or technological in their armour? Or a mix? Like a barbarian Superman, and a sci-fi Batman. Me personally, not matter what happens I just really want Batman in armour akin to this. Which is from the Total Justice line (great figures) and I think draws inspiration from the armour Bats wears in the Batman vs. Predator comic. Which goddamn imagine a Predator crossover, that'd be something.

Remember in "Clash of Arms" when Skeletor had generic human minions who were gladiator fans?

>>11621523
>Given that Mattel gets the DC license back next year
Gross. Also Disney owns predator I doubt they'd allow Mattel who has close ties with Warner Brothers to Collab on a project

>>11621529
Marvel and DC are currently doing crossovers in the comics.

>>11621516
And all of those ideas are great for parts reuse so Mattel will keep loving him for them.

I think the only question if Tarangela and Succubug looked worse in Axel designs or in actual comic.

Also why Red Shadow and Black Wizard arent even Red and Black? Was trichromacy not invented yet in Preternia?

>>11621531
>Marvel and DC are currently doing crossovers in the comics.
>Checks out some titles.
>Just smush some brands together.
I remember the same thing from back when, only with actual plot and consequences. Dark Horse Comics did that to perfection.

>>11621516
Literally where did these characters show up before now?

>>11621566
If Mattel moves parts reuse so much why no Fuerza T...

>>11621523
>DC heroes to lean savage or technological in their armour? Or a mix?

Some other people mentioned this in the last thread but New Gods Jack Kirby aesthetic would be amazing but I doubt it would ever happen.

>>11621649
>Literally where did these characters show up before now

A couple showed up in Classics minicomics, but otherwise nowhere outside of Axel's concept art for planned Classics figures that never saw the light of day.

>>11621649
Most of them either started in Origins or got concept art in CLassics but were never made.Maybe they were mentioned in Classics bios and few appeared in Classics minicomics.

Because point of pars reuse is saving time and money and getting licence to use Fuerza-T would be counterproductive to that.
Yet another shit we'll never see again because likely profit doesn't justify effort so companies dont care.Why get rights to an obscure fan-favorite when you can use popular characters you already own or just make new ones?

>>11621661
10 minutes in.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltPpuFFed2k

>>11621672
I'm not trying to be a crab in a bucket but I never got the appeal of He-ro. He's too much of a plucky lucky go hero clean shaven average dude to fit either the barberian prehistory or wizard aesthetic. He should have been something like this.

I guess they were going for a Luke and Obiwan thing?

>>11621660
Because Fuerza T looks cool.

>>11621650
remember when Shera was created because the Barbie division was jealous of he-man's success

>>11621649
I brought this up to some of the Mattel team at SDCC. It’s the grayest of areas. Mattel sued them to stop making them back in the day. It’s been long enough but they’re not going to go and make it themselves now is a bad look. If they were to make them at all, they’d have to be called something else. Or they might have to be called a variant such as Havok Powered Clawful, Avian Power Webstor, Power Sword Mer-Man or Wasteland Fisto. No one has legal expertise but they weren’t sure if it would undo anything from the lawsuit or open them to be countersued. Top Toys probably wouldn’t care but they could also try something since they are technically working on a reboot and cartoon for Fuerza T. That said it’s been 5-6 years they’ve been working on this.

Axel has drawn them on some box art before but he said to Mattel legal it’s really Clawful, Mer-Man and Webstor standing there.

The one guy did say they’d be the easiest part swap figs they’ve designed.

If they continue PoG next year with the same format as this year, it basically guarantees that, at best, it will be Eldor + two shitters and, at worst, it will be three shitters.

>>11621715
The Filmation people said they created She-Ra.
It's fuzzy when the Barbie division took over toy design. Justine Dantzer, the first PoP toy designer, was told to start with the heroine being Teela's twin sister instead of He-Man's, which predates the work Larry DiTillio is credited by Lou Scheimer and J. Michael Straczynski as doing at Filmation (creating Adam's twin sister, the Sword of Protection, Hordak and the Horde, etc), which would indeed have the Barbie division being where it started.

>>11620548
Merfren's most legendary rival...

>>11620416
I wonder if anon knows...

>>11621756
We already know one shitter, Not-so-great purple whizzer.

Random guess, we're getting bottom guys next.

>>11621660
>Because point of pars reuse is saving time and money and getting licence to use Fuerza-T would be counterproductive to that
>He says, despite the fact that mattel did just that with Sun Man

What are the comments on Club Gayskull like over Red Shadow? Are they slopping it up or upset enough to post Simpsons memes?
>>11621814
Where's my boy Golden Rod?

>>11621814
Axel's ocs confound me because they all seem like pastiches of the existing cast.
>GBL = Skeletor
>Lady Slither = Evil Lyn / King Hiss
>Fang-Or = Kobra Khan
>Red Shadow = Beastman
Etc.
I like the idea of preternia and the whole ancient war angle, but alot of the designs are really undercooked.

>>11621834
>upset enough to post Simpsons memes?
As the person that posted the Simpsons meme, I can honestly say I'm not upset. I was expecting GBW, but this is even funnier.

>>11621687
there's really no room for He-Ro while He-Man is around, plus he needs longer hair.

>>11621814
I feel special hate for "Preternia's Man-At-Arms, who had one Horde Trooper leg".

>>11621856
>there's really no room for He-Ro while He-Man is around,
Well yeah. His role is to be heroic in the past, when they'd established King Hiss comes from.
Wizard heroes work better back then than He-Man types since the story has an established ending that includes magical banishment.

>>11621813
Man, forgot Mattel did the figs for this show. Loved watching it as a kid, but the only thing we ever got as toys was the snake basher vehicle. Hope Mattel runs out of ideas and visits this IP, maybe then we can get the Slime Pit.

>>11621879
that's what I was saying, except the only times we've seen He-Ro are when He-Man's gone back in time.
I really wish we could see them swap places- He-Man and Skeletor bringing tech back in time and He-Ro being stuck in the future with no idea how to use it.

>>11621756
>>11621814
I am hoping for Plasmar eventually. I hope they don't forget him. He is Preternia too, I think?
>>11621813
Thats funny I was thinking about those in my head when writing that up, like 'I think theres a toyline similar to this already..'

>>11621907
He's not.
He's Clamp Champ's old friend and is apparently from the time of "King He-Man"

>>11621585
Yeah but you're missing a crucial detail. Marvel and DC comics suck now.

>>11621916
Holy shit, dude, that resolution is total ass. Here's a copy that doesn't give you a stroke when trying to read it.

Spoilers for 2026, expect PoG Great Black Wizard, Eldor, and Mighty Spector, everyone's favorite characters.

>>11621996
I hope they make Spector without Scott's approval or involvement and use the bio to turn him into a complete joke/loser character.

>>11622019
They should make him one of GBW's minions that travels through time to steal credit for great deeds done by others.

>>11621996
>Mighty Spector
That would be one hell of a redemption arc for Daddy Mattel.
>>11622038
>steal credit for great deeds done by others
That is my head cannon characterization of He-Ro. He just looks so fucking smug and useless.

This is probably an unpopular opinion but I think all the Preternia stuff is half baked and never went into production in the 80s for good reason. He-Ro and Eldor make sense to bring back out of the mothballs more for their infamy as lost characters, than the strength of the design.
But they failed to launch back then, and now this concept of Preternia is supposed to be the rocket fuel for all these other characters....but they more boringer than the "A Lister." Yeeesh.

Right now my current Motu want list is
>Snake Clamp Champ once he hits clearance
>Skell Ra once the scalper bring him up here to leaf land
>Sketch SyKlone once the scalpers are selling him up here
That's bad for Mattel. This is coming from someone who was buying litteraly everything despite the shipping costs or the scalper taxes. you could say my enthusiam has been struck by the Diamond ray of Disappearance.

>>11621916
>>11621898
Aren’t these part of those Crybaby.org bios? I know there was a while were a few of them were doing them and they were ok’d by Mattel but who knows if those people are still there.

I thought this new team was trying to make their own canon. They changed Wun-Dar as being pretty much the Oo-Lar til he got the armor in the comic. Plasmar was shown to be in Preternia in his card art. He-Ro was back to being Grey til he met Eldor. Sharella was the trainer of He-Ro. It seems like they’re going back to the old story instead of the Nutlick trash. Kudos to the team for trying to do better.

>>11621814
Is it wrong to want Gladiator and Bandwidth?

>>11622149
I do like Bandwidth. He feels like something that would have come out in the later era and his techy design fits with Rio Blast and Dragstor. His ye olde wireless radio inspiration also fits with Fearless Photog as another type of analog technology in figure form.
I'm not really a fan of Gladiator. His techy design fits in with that era of figures, but he kind of feels half baked, like there was no thought as to what his purpose is. But both are preferable to Red Shadow.

>>11621820
Well the difference is that I don't think Olmec Toys is in business anymore, so the license was probably dirt cheap, as opposed to Top Toys who are still around

But the irony in that is that Sun-Man had way more brand new tooling than Fuerza-T would require, apart from Platino's beard I think it was all just straight redecos

>>11622062
>That would be one hell of a redemption arc
In what way would propagating Scott's self-insert bullshit be a redemption?

>>11622317
I skipped a few trains of thought to get here but I would love to see public domain heroes and pulp heroes in MotU somehow. The specter was a shit way to do it though. (Hes clearly 90s phantom.) Especially Flash Gordon.

>>11622332
>Hes clearly 90s phantom
Nah, he's Deadpool with the teleportation harness, but with the stupid ace of spades thing. It is the most generic 90s Liefield knock-off ever. It clashes with the rest of the brand aesthetic, there is no way it could ever fit in.

ok. Im getting twitchy. Are getting trailer for movie this year or not?

>>11622075
The Plasmar one is his official Classics bio from his boxart
(But I will concede that it was during Super7 years, and Super7 had hired two .Org fanfic writers to do bios, but it was still the bio of the official release)

>Plasmar was shown to be in Preternia in his card art

I think you mean Lord Grasp's...and Lord Grasp is also shown to be a current year character rather than a PoG character in his minicomic and the Snake Mountain box despite Megator being on his card art.

And just for the record, I'm not saying you're definitely wrong, Plasmar could wind up Preternian, but I don't think we have anything strong enough to go on to make that claim.

>>11622317
I like Scott. His lorefagging was cringe but the guy did a great job with Classics in general. You can just turn the box over and not read the bios.

As for Specter himself, I dont like nerds who try and police what's "real" Motu or not. We already had ninjas, time travel, and by the later waves Motu had already lost the shared parts aesthetics. Anyone hating on MS for that is just being bitter they didn't to make Motu toys.

>>11622339
>clashes with the rest of the brand aesthetic, there is no way it could ever fit in.

So do PoP designs and NA designs but they're constantly begged for to be included.
Just saying.

Let's be honest. We just hate Spector because we hate Spector, the same way we hate most of the Axelshit. We don't need to reach for justifications like "it clashes".