Thread 2824054

Where in the world can you get the ABSOLUTE cheapest apartment with modern amenities? Laundry, internet, clean air, etc.

Is it possible to get these with quality food anywhere on earth with rent for like $300?

>>2824054 (OP)
Middle of nowhere, Vietnam

>>2824056
nope,
Bolivia, Peru and Philippines are cheaper.

>>2824066
In the Philippines you pay much higher premium for decent quality. It is more expensive if you want to live with dignity

>>2824066
>Philippines cheaper than Vietnam
lol sure thing newfag

>>2824066
>Philippines
>cheaper
In a slum maybe

>>2824095
>>2824070
Not my fault you two are retarded and don't know enough of those countries.

But I'd still put Peru above all others if you can speak the language and are not retarded. SA does not reward retardation though, so you subhuman westerners often can't deal with it.

>>2824107
>Peru
Colombia is better

You can get live in a modern apartment in Philippines for $280 a month, but you will need a 1 year lease and 2 months deposit. You will also need to furnish it yourself.

>>2824115
I think our definitions of modern our pretty different. outside of a few cities in PH, modern seems slim to unavailable in the supply. Where are you thinking in terms of neighborhood?

>>2824056
>>2824066
>>2824115
>>2824114
Do any of these places actually have clean air?

Would some rural place like Georgia be better if I'm alright with a slightly more rustic apartment?

>>2824126
>Vietnam
Air sucks
>South America
Air is bretty good but you can get real altitude issues in Peru and Bolivia. Colombia is tolerable. Cusco is an amazing city as a traveler, but I couldn't imagine spending any considerable time living there. One set of stairs felt like three or four.

>>2824054 (OP)
Batumi, Georgia for almost half the year was about that cheap. I was getting places like that for $300 but as soon as winter was over, the next month jumped to $1,000+.

>>2824107
>can live on $300 a month
>doesn't reward retardation

>>2824054 (OP)
non main cities of Japan, but the catch is that if you don't know the language and have no Japanese dna, you're probably beaned

>>2824115
280/mo in PH is going to be hostel level at best. You're not getting anything modern with utilities for 280.

300 for a place including utilities is kinda rough.

Malaysia has some stuff
Osaka has some Japanese futon business hotels for ~12-10 a night Toyo Hotel comes to mind. Believe it or not rural Japanese places aren't better in prices most the time.
If you don't mind the "nothing to fucking do" after the first month, look at south Taiwan or Korea.

>>2824126
>Would some rural place like Georgia be better if I'm alright with a slightly more rustic apartment?
Oh no he's retarded

>>2824107
>Not my fault you two are retarded and don't know enough of those countries.
Oh fuck it's another "Yeah you don't know the secret traveler hacks! KEK! I do"

Yeah you're always one of those people who knows "the hacks" to live anywhere ever with an insanely small budget yet can never post the examples. You fail to consider the total cost of ownership those "check apartments you only know by speaking the language" never include they need to pay utilities, insurance, security deposit, etc. Great your <300 apartment is now closer if not at 500/mo

>>2824126
https://www.iqair.com/

>>2824054 (OP)
Are you fine with line drying your clothes? Many Thai apartments have 30 baht coin-op laundries, but none have driers. Single-story motel style apartments can be had for 3000 baht per month throughout the less desirable provinces. The more desirable provinces have plenty of hotels, which sometimes offer monthly rates and have a coin-op drier on site in addition to the coin-op washer.

>>2824106
You're not getting a spacious well-lit apartment in a slum. Thailand has a tiny fraction of the population density of the Philippines. Compare Bangkok's population density to Manila's.

>>2824054 (OP)
Kibera slum in Nairobi. About $15pm

>>2824396
Don't forget to mention to OP A/C in the room is more and they will probably add on a foreigner tax. Also these places on the first floor are crawling with bugs.

>>2824054 (OP)
Bansko, Bulgaria
Not always the quietest place because gypsies are loud sometimes, digital nomad freaks come and stink up the place with their bs, and winter season is a ski resort, but it's very beautiful and affordable

>>2824400
Electricity is usually charged at 9 baht or 0.30 USD per kWh for the listings I saw. And those cheap rooms are never shaded, so they bake in the 34 C sun. If you want the interior temp to stay at 24 C, you're gonna burn through a LOT of juice.
>foreigner tax
Most Thai rooms are very clean and constructed to a good standard of quality. You might have a hard time getting the deposit back at some of those properties, especially if you're a piggish foreigner who wears his shoes indoors and eats take-out meals in the room (roach bait).

>>2824671
>you are a pig if you eat food in your apartment
Are you gay?

>>2824066
>and Philippines
Only if you want a mud hut with no A/C.

For anything first-world, you pay a fucking premium in the Phils, and OP did specify that he wants a place with all the amenities.

>>2824054 (OP)
Thailand has some nice cheap condos for rent, especially in Pattaya/Jomtien. AFAIK you have to sign up for your own internet service. If you're talking something like AirBnB then you get to pay the AirBnB tax.

I remember a thread here about either Laos or Cambodia that showed some seriously nice apartments with pool and all that stuff for only about $400/month. IIRC the anon said he got it through AirBnB.

>>2826301
>If you're talking something like AirBnB then you get to pay the AirBnB tax.
It's still cheap af.
Can find good places with airbnb for $500-600.
Smol, but with all amenities+internet.

>>2824693
Eating in your apartment in Thailand like a megacuck is the worst. You should be eating out daily after some mauy thai training and eating a good healthy meal for pennies while flexing after an intense session. I'll be babe watching while getting a tan on the streets eating some yummy food while you're stuck in the cuckshed jacking off to anime porn this winter once it's hopefully not over 30 degrees. Then again most of you are americans so opinion instantly disregarded.

probably outskirts of chiang mai

china unironically, but you need to have a chinese person rent it for you.

Why not just go to SEA be a bar tender and just live for free, maybe teach some english on the side at a local school for some extra cash? Seems easy since the cost of living is so low compared to cuckmerica.

>>2824054 (OP)
in China you can get stuff like this, 6 rooms with two shared toilets and a shared kitchen for $195/month. And this is in Beijing, which is expensive. You can probably get an ensuite/studio in smaller cities for the same price

there is also stuff like this where you have to outfit it yourself but the price is incredibly low. This is property investors cutting their losses on unpopular developments.
$50/month for an unfitted 115m2 apartment in Xingtai, Hebei

another example from a smaller city: 40m2 all to yourself, with a bathroom and living room. $140/month in Hebi, Henan

I think food might be a bit of a limiting factor for getting the cost under $300, because in China a cheap meal is usually 15-20rmb or 20-25rmb if ordering takeout. So let's say you get a few baozi for breakfast 5rmb, one lunch at 20rmb and dinner takeout 25rmb = 50rmb/day budget on food, which gets you to $7/day or 210ish per month.
Actually poor people in China only eat a simple breakfast 5rmb, instant noodles (5-10rmb), and maybe make their own dinner (idk how much this would cost since I never made food for myself, but let's guess it's around 20rmb per meal).
that's $5/day which gets you to $150/month which alongside living in >>2826380 here, which I think is a pretty ok apartment, gets you just under your $300/month rule.

You could probably get it even cheaper by living in an outlying district outside the prefecture-city urban centre, or hunting a bit harder.

and yes, I know you guys will shit on China for air pollution, but there isn't much in most of the south. I just picked some northern cities for examples since that's what I'm familiar with. Other poor provinces that you can probably find cheap stuff in:
>Anhui
>Jiangxi
>Guizhou
>Gansu

>>2826387
Southeast Asia's winter climate is definitely more pleasant than southern China's chillier, damper winter weather. IDK if Chinese officials are keen on poorfag foreigners living month to month as bums in cheap apartments in China. You might not even be able to rent one of these places on a tourist visa.

>>2826391
>Winter climate
Yeah, it's not all year round warm and tropical like Bangkok or Singapore. Most expats would go to Hainan for their winters but not an option for poorfags I guess.
>Visas and renting
Yeah this is the main disadvantage, tourist visas are restrictive and need you to do a visa run every month/two months. If you are working or married then you won't want to live in one of these places.

>>2824107
>Does not reward retardation
>Accepts its own mouthbreathing mongoloid browns over the 'subhuman westerners' who literally invented civilization and then personally built it
Its gonna be one or the other, Anon. If they didn't reward retardation they'd gas their own population and invite the Westerners in to replace them.

>>2826325
>this is the guy calling you a cuck for not eating peasant noodles on the street
lol
lmao even
Have a negroni, bud

>>2826325
>thai food

hearty kek

>>2826375
>in China you can get
If you speak fluent Chinese and know how to deal with all the bullshit to lease an apartment in China, correct?

>>2826519
One of my friends rented an apartment in Beijing while only being able to speak very basic Chinese, so I don't think it's impossible. Yes there is bullshit with the police to deal with but once that's over you're set

>>2826567
You can rent apartments knowing zero Chinese either by using translation applications, making a friend, or getting a girlfriend. If you get a girlfriend, she'll rent you an apartment *and* pay for it.
Police registration involves bringing your passport and rental contract to the police station and waiting 20 minutes. Does not require any words said.

Also you don't need to live in the middle of nowhere to live in China. You can get 3 bedroom apartments for $300 a month in the western suburbs of Shanghai, which is about 2 hours from the center of the city.

The one thing that isn't being discussed though is visas. China doesn't have visas like Thailand's DTV.

>>2826585
yes.

>>2826585
Where is my bullet point presentation? Is ChatGPT still generating it?

>>2826584
>using translation applications
yeah the landlord will either fuck you over or not be willing to put up with you and find someone else
>making a friend or getting a gf
bold of you to assume that a /trv/ poorfag could accomplish either of those things

>registration is 20 minutes long
now this I can confidently say is total BS, having registered myself with the police multiple times in China. None of the police know what to do and they don't want to work so they will pass the laowai between them until one of them finally does something.
>go to local police station
>go to "registering" counter (ie for applying for a new ID card)
"we can't help you, you have to go to the chief of the 派出所“
>go to chiefs office
>all of his aides and other people off duty gawk at me
>tells me I should just go to a hotel and register there (without booking a room), then stay in the apartment (because he doesn't want to deal with me and wants to push the task of getting my details onto the hotel people)
>I tell him that I'm not doing that bc they won't know how to do it
>he grumbles and gives me two of the same form and makes me fill them out
>I give them to him and he pretends to read stuff on his computer then makes me go to the 新市区派出所 which is a bigger police station in the new city sector
>go there, go to the office, give them my forms. more gawking
>they try the hotel spiel again, I explain not happening, they take my forms and say it's incomplete and I have to go back to the original police station or something
>I call the other station and they tell me it's complete, I give the phone to the guy here and they argue for five minutes
>the guy takes a photo of the form, presumably to post it in their wechat group and make some subordinate read it and put the info into a computer, then tells me I'm registered and can go now.

>$300/month apartments in Shanghai
but OP wanted rent AND food under $300

>>2826719
>food
Food is cheap. You can get a kilogram of white rice for less than a dollar.
Do you have any resources for learning chinese?

>>2826584
>DUDE JUST LIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF NO WHERE IN SOME CHEAP ASS TOFU BUILDING!!!!! IT'S AT LEAST CHEAP!!!

Anon if I wanted to do that I'd go live in Lawton OK where you can pick up a house for 40-50k but at least you have slightly more shit to do.

>>2827915
seriously just do that
There is no reason to come to China except business and work, even if you are right in the $1000 a month city center of Beijing or Shanghai.

>>2827915
Show me listings for that much which aren't in a complete state of disrepair.

Thailand, obviously.

>>2824054 (OP)
This can be done in Hurghada, Egypt.
Tropical paradise on the Red Sea.

https://www.novelestate.com/estate_view.html?id=A15580

Furnished apartment in Skopje, Macedonia for 500 euros per month. I guess if I lose my job I can just fuck off to Europe for a while as a backup plan.

>>2827915
Billions live in China and this Tofu building meme still goes on. Mate it's fine. Propaganda has you people fooled.

>>2828068
lol, I didn't even have to try and filter

>>2824066
>Peru

>>2827915
>>2829825
NTA.
Oddly specific city but not too bad desu. But how are the neighbors?

>>2829864
Lawton is like 80% white as it's a military training ground

>>2824054 (OP)
Dar es Salaam
if you're ok with primates and open sewers

>>2829862
godammit i want dat with sound

wtf is going on, his computer cost 10x the rest of his life

>>2826378
Did someone slaughter a pig in that room?

>>2826378
ok but who gives a shit. what are you going to do with an apartment that doesn't even have flooring or an AC or whatever

humans cannot live in random fucking holes in the ground.

>>2826375
The problem is moreso the visa is more strict? Can't you only stay for like a month or two?

>>2829864
Lawton is a military town specifically around basic training + training for air and artillery. Lots of people come in, lease a house if they can live off base, then dip out meaning the housing market exploded on speculation a while back and no one is a perm resident. Housing prices are low for that reason.
>But how are the neighbors?
If you've ever lived in a military town or military port city, it's par for the course in terms of "roughness". So, stay away from the (dive) bars on the 1st and 15th and everything is basically fine.

You'll have access to some of the best beef in the country, 90 minutes from OKC 2 hours from DFW for weekend getaways. Biggest issue is the job market is all about supporting the military base. If you have around 100k you could easily buy a cash house in full and have an economy that's basically not going away unless the US military does.

>>2824132
>Air is bretty good
Gets worse the further south you go, parts of Argentina and Chile are almost toxic during wintertime due to particulate material from wood heaters.

>>2832394
You can fit it out very cheap, furniture is a lot less expensive in China.

>>2832438
Yes which is why you get married

>>2834001
>Lawton is a military town specifically around basic training
Ok so it's full of negros and mexicans.

>>2834025
Balkans is like this also, there's some comfy places and I got cheap as fuck monthly apartments there but when autumn/winter comes along it's completely unlivable.

>>2834078
Sorry you can't live in a +50% white town without having a mental breakdown anon

>>2824054 (OP)
so any actual answers here?

>>2835652
If you are looking for genuine answers, 4chan is not the place. Is like asking a homeless for stock market advice.

>>2835666
satan does it for free

>>2824054 (OP)
>>2835652
You could go down the following until you encounter somewhere not overrun by Muslims:
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/rankings.jsp

>Kharkiv, UA
>Gaborone, Botswana
>Fortaleza, Brazil
>Chengdu, China
>Nis, Serbia
>Pristina, Kosovo
>Colombo, Sri Lanka
>Oradea, RO
>Skopje, MK
>Cebu, PH

These will give you some potential starting points for research.

>>2835682
>Kharkiv, UA


Dude thats like right on the front line lel

>>2835714
I've been there during the war, it's not that bad, desu. People are still living normally-ish.

>>2834001
Surprisingly, Lawton has some cool nature areas nearby, though it's a bit of a stretch to call them the Wichita "Mountains". The Oklahoma climate is horrible though, which is why everyone is fat and stays indoors 95% of the time, never walking or bicycling anywhere. Blistering hot summers and cold, bleak winters. I expect the local wages for menial jobs to be among the lowest in America. 19.4% black population means that you can never relax in public.
>>2834025
Assmatic pussies should stay home huddled next to their air purifier.

>>2829862
How are they so subhuman they cant make a floor

>>2824107
>glazes peru
>calls westerners subhuman

After years of playing Dota, you will never convince me that Peru isn’t filled with actual apes pretending to be humans

>>2836649
The floor won't absorb piss so easily genius.