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Will it ever get its just recognition?
Anonymous No.215245483 [Report] >>215245924
>>215245424 (OP)
It has its just recognition.
Anonymous No.215245517 [Report] >>215245643 >>215246078 >>215246117 >>215246255 >>215247315 >>215247339 >>215258687 >>215260157
>>215245424 (OP)
>Will it ever get its just recognition?
Unironically one of the greatest films of the 20th century. You want to know how underrated this movie is?
I've been shilling it for over 25 years now. I remember telling people in 2000 and how underrated this film was. I remember the early days of /tv/ when I used to make threads about 2010. 10 years ago, I kept shilling 2010, and even now... people still havent' caught on.
Anonymous No.215245590 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
does it address the zoo situation?
Anonymous No.215245643 [Report] >>215246209 >>215247521
>>215245517
>I remember telling people in 2000
until I saw this post just now I thought 2001 was actually made in 2001 but holy shit it was made in 1969, it doesn't feel old when you're watching it at all.
Anonymous No.215245924 [Report]
>>215245483
The memory hole has enlarged and the brain rott is real. AI will widen the gap.
Anonymous No.215246028 [Report]
it wasn't that good and they didn't do a good job resolving the plot of the first one
Anonymous No.215246074 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
I thought you were a dumb zoomer crying about 2001 you pos. Might as well as ask why Donnie darko 2 didn't get it's recognition fuck you and die
Anonynous No.215246078 [Report] >>215246554 >>215253143 >>215256526
>>215245517
2001 is a great movie. The screenplay and book were being worked on at the same time.

2010 is based on a great book that was already written.

I challenge you to name a single God thing about 2010 FROM A FILMMAKING PERSPECTIVE. Since Arthur C Clarke already wrote a great book that I had stop reading because I started the movie halfway though and this movie made me fucking barf and I wasn't able to return to the kino visuals I had in my mind after seeing MST3K level special effects.

Its God Awful.

But seriously. Name a good thing about the movie THAT'S NOT THE STORY.
Anonymous No.215246117 [Report]
>>215245517
Maybe you are a bad shill
Anonymous No.215246209 [Report] >>215246364 >>215247149
>>215245643
Are you like 9 years old or something? This beggars belief.
Anonymous No.215246255 [Report] >>215246390
>>215245517
I love it, anon. Equal to the original, yet different and that's okay. You're doing good work.
Anonymous No.215246363 [Report] >>215246402
>>215245424 (OP)
CRTS!
they were too cheap to even fake flat screen displays like in 2001 released in fucking 1968
cheapskates!
Anonynous No.215246364 [Report] >>215258556
>>215246209
>Are you like 9 years old or something? This beggars belief.
Nta, but I've met 25 year olds who can't spell and don't know basic facts like Ronald Reagan was a Hollywood actor or the Hoover Dam from Fallout actually exists in real life.
Anonynous No.215246390 [Report] >>215246422
>>215246255
>Equal to the original
A smiley face smeared in shit is equal to the mona lisa. Just different.
Anonymous No.215246402 [Report]
>>215246363
CRTs are tough and meaningful and oozing with soul, while flat displays are anorexic tryhards.
Anonymous No.215246422 [Report]
>>215246390
In terms of story, it's superior even.
Anonymous No.215246493 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
It's not as easy as cake.
Anonymous No.215246554 [Report]
>>215246078
>Name a good thing about the movie THAT'S NOT THE STORY
Cool moody cinematography.
Memorable characters and performances (Roy Scheider is kino as always).
Great spacewalk panic attack scene.
HAL's redemption arc was well done I thought.
Special effects are of course not on par with the original but were still very good for their time (fuck off with that mst3k shit) and the image of Jupiter being consumed by the monoliths is really iconic to me.
Peter Parker's landlord is in it, so it's automatically kino.
Anonymous No.215246762 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)

Recycling old notes:

Crew of the Leonov, l-r, 1-8:

1) Victor Steinbach as Nikolai Ternovsky. A minor crew hand. In the novel, this character gets a bit more play in that he helps Chandra get HAL running again.

2) Czech actor Jan Triska as Alexsandr Kovalev. This character has an English line or two after a probe crashes, but it's easy to miss. The novel's character by same name is similarly inconsequential.

3) Natasha Shneider as Irina Yakunina, a largely ineffectual chickie who still has an English line. In the book, a character by this name is initially slated to be part of the Leonov's crew. However, this book-character meets with a hang gliding accident before the mission commences, and is therefore replaced for the mission by an understudy, one Zenia Marchenko - who is in fact fucking Max during the trip. The film simply dispenses with this backstory in favor of using the early listed name for "second minor female character".

4) Oleg Rudnik as Vasily Orlov, really the chief science man on the ship. He plays with the space probes and actually leads sciency stuff. In the novel, this character and captain Tanya (Orlova) are spouses.

5) Vladimir Skomarovsky as Yuri Svetlanov. He helps Tanya run the bridge and has some Russian exchanges, but never speaks English. This character is a pure invention of the film's, and has no equivalent in the book.

6) Elya RENT! Baskin as Maxim "Max" Brailovsky, who has a good spacewalk scene with Lithgow's character. In both book and film, the two characters develop a bro-ship, with the novel making a faint suggestion (IMO) that something a bit more might be going on. Baskin often plays a stock Russian/eastern-euro guy for western movies.

7) Helen Mirren as Tanya Kirbuk, captain.

8) Saveliy Kramarov as Dr. Vladimir Rudenko. A little dialogue, simple doctor-character. This actor replaces the book's character which instead describes (Katerina) Rudenko as a fat, matronly babushka-woman.
Anonymous No.215246969 [Report]
-I wonder if anyone could let me know the translation of the Russian exchange that they have on the bridge after aerobraking is a success, I've always wondered.

-Note the general Syd Mead set design in the promo splash photo I posted. This compares very well with the grunt crew in Aliens getting briefed on their mission.

-a little detail from the bok is that the woman captain and chief scientist are wife and husband, so they rule the roost. This is never indicated in the film, and in fact I think they changed Helen's character name to minimize this detail, probably to focus attention on the cold war angle which is played up in the film.

-The 2010 book is the best (and longest, though not by much) overall book in the series, and plays things a bit more cool. It also predicts the future accurately, with a side plot about the secretive Chinese space program which works on its own; even the Russians and Americans continue to work together with the usual tension. I regard the 2010 book as the second-best installment in the overall franchise, of course behind the original Kubrick film.
Anonymous No.215247149 [Report]
>>215246209
Nothing wrong with the comment for all intensive purposes.
Anonymous No.215247315 [Report]
>>215245517
>>215245424 (OP)
I didnt like what it did with hal. shits stupid yo..
Anonymous No.215247339 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
>>215245517
will I dream?
Anonymous No.215247360 [Report] >>215247484
the director only made B tier slop after this movie lol
Anonymous No.215247471 [Report]
"something wonderful"
"it's shrinking!!"
"piece of pie"
"will i dream?"

All these worlds are yours except Europa, attempt no landings there.

2067 is really good
3001 book sucks ass

This was my first introduction to Helen Mirren and i've had a massive crush on her since.
Anonymous No.215247484 [Report]
>>215247360
hey fuck you buddy Timecop is kino
Anonymous No.215247521 [Report]
>>215245643
2001 shows its age only in a couple of small scenes. Most notable on the spacestation when Floyd talks to the Soviets, as you can see their civil clothes and the way their hair's done.
Anonymous No.215247559 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
I do love the special effects in it, but as a whole it just never hit me the same way as 2001.
Anonymous No.215249002 [Report]
it's funny.. 2010 was arguably the least "coldest" year so far... yet this movie acts like it was chrustjov era.. funny how they got that so wrong - soviet will survive into the 20s! lol
Anonymous No.215249019 [Report] >>215249837
>>215245424 (OP)
>Rob Schneider
no thanks
Anonymous No.215249837 [Report]
>>215249019
>>Rob Schneider
???
Anonymous No.215250629 [Report] >>215257426
>>215245424 (OP)
it's a pretty common sentiment here that it was a better movie than 2001.
the only thing 2001 has going for it is the cinematography.
Anonymous No.215251543 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
They should have used a classical music soundtrack like 2001.
Anonymous No.215251563 [Report] >>215251974
>>215245424 (OP)
>ships somehow look older and less advanced even though the story takes place 9 years further in the future
For some reason every sci-fi spaceship in the 80s had to look like the inside of a submarine. I blame Alien.
Anonymous No.215251974 [Report]
>>215251563
It was a Russian ship. Of course it was going to be inferior even 9 years after the first one.
Anonymous No.215252394 [Report] >>215252503
It's a pedo-movie. Jupiter is a child who gets raped by aliens. they wanna make the hole bigger and bigger until the planet couldn't take it anymore.
Arthur C Clarke is a certified sri lanka-lover
Peter Hyams has a phonyphil, his friendships with Blake & Simpson is on a snuff-level
Roy Schneider starred in Jaws
Don Lithgow was casted as a dexter-killer in Serial
these guys are all sixdegreed from known peds such as Geoffrey Jones, Victor Gomez Salva, Woody Fallen and Brian Songer
Anonymous No.215252503 [Report]
>>215252394
Good morning sir!
Anonymous No.215252902 [Report] >>215254379
Am I the only one who thought there was a massive amount of wasted space on the sides of the screen? The movie is 2.39 but the shot designs are for like a 1.33. Not even 1.85. And it happens for like 95% of the movie. No?
Anonymous No.215253143 [Report]
>>215246078
cringe redditnigger oost
Anonymous No.215254379 [Report]
>>215252902
do you have examples of this?
Anonymous No.215255731 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
I liked it
Anonymous No.215256526 [Report]
>>215246078
2010 literally saves 2001's ass by retconning an explanation about HAL's murder rampage.
Anonymous No.215257426 [Report]
>>215250629
It isn't common at all what are you talking about?
Anonymous No.215257974 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)
Truthfully no. A lot of people who are fans of the first one hate it because it's more talking and stuff instead of visual with mimimal words. They don't get it at all with the four books that it's how the whole thing develops.
Anonymous No.215258556 [Report]
>>215246364
Yet they have sex and you don't.
Anonymous No.215258687 [Report] >>215258818 >>215259978
>>215245517
Anon...it isn't that good.
For some reason lots of people get mind-fucked by Kubrick. I've seen the same with with Dr. Strangelove and Fail Safe; plenty of people trying to hype it up as some great masterpiece when in reality it was a mediocre film that has justly been forgotten.
Anonymous No.215258818 [Report]
>>215258687
Being contrarian about Kubrick is just a great way to bait retards
Anonymous No.215259475 [Report]
>>215245424 (OP)

Stay outta Europa.
Anonymous No.215259978 [Report]
>>215258687
now on the other hand let me just say that the The Shining series is vastly superior to Kubricks sloppy version (which didn't even get the right color on the car)
Anonymous No.215260157 [Report]
>>215245517
Dude, I saw it, it was good, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK YOU WANT FROM ME!!!