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How are you liking the alpha demo?
I don't have a PS5 so I started a new Nioh 2 run

Rip corrupted and purity weapons

Something interesting from the interview is pointing out how the crucibles are the main road block for the open world/story. You can freely explore in the open map as much as you want and then take on the crucible (which plays more like a traditional level), purify the area, and then move on. I think this is an interesting approach to open world design. It's not like this is the first open world with roadblock but those roadblocks would typically just be a boss or w/e or you do some quest to get an item that unlocks more of the map or a main story mission that progresses the world suddenly letting you explore more.

In this they just completely block off a part of the world with a mini-level and then defeating that level makes a permanent change to the map that allows you to move forward. I'm curious on just how big the map will be and how many crucibles the game might have. I know people have gone out of bounds to explore more of the map but still hard to say the true scope.

>>712345603 (OP)
Give me samurai kusa TN. I need my 3 stances kusa

>>712346672
Will be in the next demo. Trust the plan brother.

>>712347040
I trvst TN

Can't wait to use cheat engine to make a decent build without having to grind for actually usable RNG drops

>>712346672
Sorry man it's not happening unless they're adding some weird variant of it that better fits a samurai

>>712347680
the dogshit rng mechanic really does ruin these games. the only retards willing to defend it are gambling addicts

Which one will be the better game?

>>712348131
NG4 will be better because it's not soulshit
NG4 will also flop because it's not soulshit

>>712348131
NG4 is doomed since it's being done by nuplatinum, ragebound will end up being better than most

>>712348131
For me it's Nioh 3 but I'm biased since the Nioh games are some of my all-time favorites

>>712346395
Wind and earth were better

>>712348131
obviously nioh because itll be worth playing for more than 20h

I miss her bros...

Based autist made up a collectibles map for the demo

>>712349760

Did something happen to her!

>>712346672
>I need my 3 stances kusa
Implying you aren't just mad you can't spam high heavies

>>712350005
My penis happened. It's terminal. T^T

>>712350026
Honestly kusa is such a good weapon in theory but I find it to feel very awkward and boring in Nioh. I think it feels better in the alpha demo but not a lot of skills to play around with so not sure how it'll be in the full game.

>>712350026
To be fair to that guy it's rarely a good thing to take options away from players. One new moveset at the cost of 3 old movesets that all interact with each other isn't really a good deal in my opinion, either.

>>712348131
Nioh 3. With the inevitable dlcs I imagine dropping 1k hours on it.
I love ng 1 and 2 but don't know how I feel about 4. I don't think platinum can nail anything close to the thrill of ng1/2 but I am a big fan of revengeance

>>712351004
3 is good and only redditors think otherwise. 3RE is what the baseline of the next NG should be but instead platinum is just remaking it from the ground up with their own gameplay designs and only taking the surface level details of NG2.

It's grim

>>712351360
>3 is good
Have we finally reached the "DMC 2 is actually good and better than 5" stage of contrarianism for Ninja Gaiden?

>>712350026
For kusa the "spam" move is high lights but keep being a shitter fag

Pros and cons of the 3 alpha? Can't play it myself

>>712352631
Pros: it's fun
Cons: it's on ps5
Hope I've been helpful

>>712351657
3 has a bad reputation because it's initial release was riddled with a dozen of major problems.
3RE reworked the game and did the best with what it has and the result is ninja gaiden on crack and it's very good. Great movesets, great enemy design, enemies are genuinely as deadly as ever.

Does it still have the retarded story and those bad scenes with level evil twisted red arm? sure but the gameplay is good in 3RE and only retards who can't form their own opinions parrot "LE 3 BAD" shit.

I'm glad hatchets are in, the last thread had some more out-of-bounds discoveries. It looks like all or most of the skill tree is there so I wonder how they'll handle inputs since it's a ninja weapon. I'm not sure if there will be samurai hatchets though because it looked like basically all of their skills from 2 were already in the ninja tree. I might be forgetting some skills so I don't know.

if i had to choose between nioh 3 and silksong i would choose nioh 3

>>712351360
I never mentioned 3re just because I havent played it. It's on my list but never got round to it. I just hate how 4 looks

>>712352995
It's just placeholder. Tonfa was also in the ninja skill tree but had nodes for it's unique ki pulse move and the "versions" for each of the 3 stances when ninja has no way to ki pulse.

>Yasuda: Past Nioh titles were all proposed by Kou Shibusawa at Koei Tecmo, but Nioh 3 was proposed by from the development side, who expressed that they wanted to make the game.
>Game is so good the devs keep wanting to make more of it
Based

>>712345603 (OP)
https://youtu.be/OBLE8vFs66Y?t=57
SCAMPUSS BROS.....WE'RE FUCKING BACK

>>712353623
wtf how do you get the scampuss core??

The big shuriken looks cool but it seems weak
Also the alpha just updated, what the heck

>>712353841
You're supposed to pet the first Scampuss, how could you miss it?

>>712354172
Its always been weak

>>712354525
nta but he flipkicked me in the face and i said fuck it

>>712350026
Shuten Doji is so fucking based.

What is the ninja mist mechanic even for? I barely used it and I didn't have any idea what it was doing when I did.

I liked both Nioh games but skipped SoP, Wu Long, and RotR. Now that 3 is coming out are those worth playing or should I just wait to play 3?

>>712352893
I thought you were talking about base 3 and not RE at the start

>>712353527
More like
>our last several games were such huge flops we need to whip up something quickly before Koei disbands the entire studio

>>712354172
The pinwheel shuriken in the alpha is great actually and was one of my favorites. You can get two extra throws if you time the input right as it returns and each hit briefly staggers enemies. It also hits twice on each throw so it usually hits the enemies back for bonus ninja damage on the way back.

>>712356073
Quickly canceling recovery while also having some movement if you hold a direction down. Same as Ki Pulse just it doesn't recover ki. You can use it to string attacks together quicker or get out of danger.

>>712357407
That's kinda what I was trying to use it for but I also found it really bad for those purposes. It doesn't take you very far and it doesn't seem to cancel recovery very much.
All I really did with it was use it to position behind enemies for the backstab bonus.

>>712354909
You just need to chase them a mile then pet them, you don't get to pet them for free.

>>712345603 (OP)
Rise of the Ronin was so fucking terrible I have no hope for this one.

>>712356418
They started working on Nioh 3 right after 2

i just want rise of ronin
but it's not optimized at all and almost 200 gig bloat
but it looks fun

>>712357889
>you don't get to pet them for free.
i was able to in nioh 2 though?

>>712357751
You just use it the same way you would use a ki pulse. If you have that muscle memory then it should carry over the same way. It also helps with going into skills while doing a normal combo.

>>712348131
Even with some questionable design choices Nioh 3, without a doubt. NG4 has no hope since it's being made by Platinum.

>>712358537
It's a design choices that's obviously meant to help you explore the open fields. Same thing with the weasels that you shoot down. They want you panning the camera around to actually look at the environments that they made and chase the scampuss to help explore paths that you might not take. They also tend to lead you to areas that might have treasure or other notable things nearby.

>>712357985
They got lucky with Nioh 2. They will never make a good game ever again

>>712358046
In a 2021 interview they said they were working on several games and Nioh 3 was not among them, so it's 2022 earliest

>>712359476
The producer said in a recent interview that they started development after the PC release of Nioh 2, in 2020

>>712360024
https://gnn.gamer.com.tw/detail.php?sn=286946 here's said interview

I love that Ninja style is a thing, I hate that it took away from the base gameplay style in order to exist.

>>712360951
Took away what?

How do stats work in the demo?
Is it still the same?
Do both "forms" share stats?

>>712361921
Yes, its the same. Samurai and Ninja both need a whole set of gear including 2 accessories. They've even got the titles come back which instead of 2 selections of 8 (4 you can choose from) They have ~8 selections of 4.

>>712361921
Yes to both

>You can break the enemy red burst with guardian spirit skills
So you can beat the game without ever having to switch stances

The alpha gets funner the more I play it. Tried multiplayer too and it seems smooth

>>712362657
Its meant to be an alternative

>>712362657
you can stance-switch counter without actually switching
but also now im wondering, burst counter required anima before, now style switch counter is free on deck always?

>>712366780
>you can stance-switch counter without actually switching
Is that a skill somewhere? I never found it if so, not like it matters, I like the stance switching

>>712345603 (OP)
why do you guys like this nioh woke 3? fuck team ninja. i regret giving them money in the past

>tale of the Taira in nioh 2
it isn’t fucking fair, also does anyone know who the revenants are in that mission aside from Kagekiyo, I’m assuming they’re supposed to be the sons of kiyomori

>>712368207
Are you talking about the body type thing? I could honestly not care less

>>712366780
Yeah stance switching is free so the counter is free.
Doesn't feel like a big change, burst counter was cheap enough that you generally had it up whenever you needed it.

>>712357985
>>712359230
ultra filtered. Wo Long, SoP, and RotR are all BASED

>>712367630
very early I barely played the demo and got it in the area of the first 3-4 shrines

>>712368207
Because it's fun and I'm not a faggot who posts wojaks on 4chan

>>712369807
I thought you guys were memeing but after playing sop and ronin, they're definitely peak. I'll never doubt TN again

>>712353623
I love these lil fuzz balls

>>712356289
I can speak for SoP, its fun. The interplay between soul shielding and managing your break gauge through switching classes keeps things interesting. However I will have to dock it some points since you have to do normal attacks to access the majority of your skills so the combat gets samey after a while. Also you get so absurdly powerful at the end people are hitting multiple lines of the damage cap and no longer need to engage with the enemy.

If the nioh 3 doesnt have a hidden kodama village im going to be pissed

>>712377437
Normal attacks get kinda redundant in late rifts and normal attacks do end up feeling like they're getting in the way of accessing your gigga nigga blaster that you built across 100 floors. Beyond that though it's a super fun game. I prefer the combo skill aspect rather than building to a 1shot ability build but the options are all there for fun

>>712378554
yea for SoP2 or even nioh 3, I hope they keep the damage cap not that high. I know its probably hard to crunch the numbers that far ahead but I think they did it fairly good in nioh 2. I think I can't remember, I remember dying to nyotengu a lot in the depths

>>712350005
she got married and had a kid which was apparently a breach of contract with her agency or some shit

post webms

>>712356289
All of TN's modern action RPGs are excellent. If you like one then there's a good chance you'll like the others. Of course you need to be willing to accept that while they're all fairly similar, they also have certain quirks and differences. In other words, don't get mad when you find out that they're not exactly like Nioh. The games all largely appeal to the same target audience is the point.

>>712383816
>>712383069

I'm looking forward to seeing if Heaven's Clash on hatchets is actually good this time thanks to the ninja mode damage bonus for hitting enemies backs.

>>712383816
Phantom burst counter is the coolest shit ever and is what made me fall in love with Nioh on the spot when I first did it. I'm going to miss it.

>>712385013
bonus damage to the back is an inherent property of all attacks in Nioh 1/2. It's only in 3 where they changed it to be a ninja only thing

How would you rank the nioh 1 and 2 dlc's?

>>712385383
I know but it felt stronger than normal since they made it ninja only in the alpha.

>>712386469
Nioh 2 had MUCH better dlcs imo

>>712386469
Both are good but I liked 2's more.

>>712383069
Bolting boar is so cool

I just started playing Nioh 1 and I'm getting my booty blasted. The keyboard and mouse controls feel like shit and on top of that I find myself constantly doing muscle memory dark souls inputs at bad times and eating shit. I'm using an axe and a spear at the moment and it feels like I barely have any stamina, if I miss a ki pulse I'm screwed. What are some good tips for early game? The gains from stats are really inconsistent, should I be spreading out to get extra stam/life or should I focus on damage? Is it viable to mix in magic and ninja items or is that spreading my stats out too much?

>>712385072
Phantom burst is still kinda in since style change works like it and brute has guardian spirit skills.

Its only feral that got screwed over.

No yokai powers, massively trimmed weapon pool, retarded ninja/samurai system
I have 800 hours in nioh 2 and zero interest in this whatsoever

>>712393238
Straight up get the skill that lets you ki pulse out of a dodge, its a mega crutch but it helps a lot in early game, you will have to eventually learn to do it well if you want to master the spear, the axe is very unga bunga so rely more on it to cleave ki for now.

> The gains from stats are really inconsistent, should I be spreading out to get extra stam/life or should I focus on damage? Is it viable to mix in magic and ninja items or is that spreading my stats out too much?
The game at least at the start expects you to be a jack of all trades so you should be mixing magic and ninja stuff as well.

>>712383069
I'm not that good but whatever, it's gameplay from 3

>>712393393
>No Yokai powers
false
>Massively trimmed weapon pool
It's an alpha
>>712393393
>Retarded ninja/samurai system
It feels good to play after you unlock stuff

Best soul cores in your opinion?
I've been enjoying Mezuki but I haven't even come close to trying all of them.

>>712393238
The game is designed for controllers so you might want to consider switching.

>>712358127
>3060ti
>R9 3900x
>32gb DDR4 ram
Runs fine for me on high settings with DLSS enabled, usually maintains between 50-60 fps, though a few areas can suffer from frame drops, particularly Yokohama. The game gives you an option to use frame gen, but I DON'T recommend using that. I don't know if that's just because 30 series cards aren't supposed to have access to frame gen on DLSS or if it's because the game is locking me to 60fps, but somehow the game runs far worse with it on.

I started replaying yesterday, I play 1440p on a 1080p monitor so I didn't notice until I looked at screenshots - do you still require mods for AA? I don't understand why team ninja games are always so ugly.

Especially Wild Hearts, holy fuck that literally looked like an early PS3 game.

>>712395495
In the demo or nioh2?

>>712398517
The demo. To clarify I was talking mostly about the soul core attacks you get when you set it in the top position.