I've been playing a bunch lately. I keep starting Warriors of Chaos campaigns and then getting annoyed when I don't have any money. Maybe I'm being too greedy with upgrading all my infantry as soon as I can. Chosen are fucking expensive
>>712385149 (OP)I just finished campaign with Boris, who should I pick next?
Are HElves or Dawi a better campaign to play to ease back into Total Warhammer after several years?
I did, belakor sucks and is lame with shitty redbuffs for daemons
Back to skarsnik
>>712386892Dawi just got updated a dlc or 2 ago, you can either full speed settle grudges or turtle up for bonza bucks
>>712385149 (OP)No, I don't think I will.
Every time I open the the campaign start screen I inevitably end up clicking on Repanse, and hearing her voice lines gives me a raging erection.
CAN'T
I'M STARING AT RACE SELECTION
Been playing Azazel, Slaanesh needs an update.
>>712385149 (OP)fix vamcunts first and then I'll come back
i would, but everytime I play it my GPU keeps going to 83C and I get scared.
best voice lines in the game
I've been meaning to get into the series should I buy all 3 games or just get the third one?
>>712388217Everything is functionally a DLC for the third game. Definitely wait for a sale though because Sega never lowers prices but drops things a ton during sale
>>712388217buying 1 & 2 will unlock the base races from those games, otherwise you will only have the races from 3
also, DLC races are like $9 - $16
>>712385149 (OP)>Started Thorgrim ME like 6 hours before this postWHO'S THE LAGGARD NOW, UMGI
>>712385149 (OP)Have they fixed it yet?
>>712388217Buy 3 on sale, then use CreamAPI to unlock everything. F U C K CA and Sega. I wouldn't even be recommending this if they didn't fumble the bag so fucking hard over and fucking over.
>>712385149 (OP)Which campaign/leader would be a good choice to learn the game?
>>712389004Karl Franz is probably teh best starter
All-purpose versatile army (melee, ranged, cavalry, artillery) , strong melee hero, relatively simple campaign mechanics
>>712389004Tyrion for H.Elves or one of the base game Cathay leaders are the most recommended for beginners. DO NOT PLAY EMPIRE AS A BEGINNER. There's a ton of shit going on with something like Karl's.
>>712388217buy 3 and bust a big fat creampie
>>712389004If you wanna be a little less "vanilla" than Karl Franz, the lizardmen is also a good choice with Gor-Rok
>>712385149 (OP)>Age of SmegmaNo thanks give me the same game in the 40k then well talk
>>712388681>only 1/4 of enemy melee unit health depleted on two volleys of blasting charges from two unitsYeah, Elves have to take two more steps and they win.
>>712385149 (OP)>play game>turn 20>random fuck faction from half a map away talks to you mid-turn to offer you 237 gold in exchange for tanking your reputation>Your camera zooms to their location half a map away>game crashes.>its unavoidableThank you for the updates, they helped a lot.
>>712389847its not age of sigmar though, its warhammer fantasy
>>712390248white lions are armored, blasting charges dont do good armor piercing damage.
ONE NORSCAN WEAK
TWO NORSCAN STILL WEAK
BUT ALL NORSCANS TOGETHER MAKES WA
>>712390993Meaning that entire video was nothing but wank at shiny explosions and stagger.
Might as well show a video of bloodwrack medusae stroking her staff and pretending its a gacha game.
>>712391380Exactly. Can't expect any better from dawicucks though
>>712390818Only reason to go back to 2 is either vortex campaign or to enjoy absurdly OP elves
>>712392201Are the Wood Elves in 3 still absurdly overpowered? Orion might as well be a Khorne worshipper the way his economy is the best in the game as long as you're focused on total genocide of everything that isn't a tree or an elf.
>>712393652Probably not since ranged units took a hit and wood elf infantry was never very good. I don't play them enough to comment on the campaign side of things
>>712385149 (OP)Every time I start a Legendary campaign I remember the elf factions and how unbelievably annoying they are unless you're VCoast or dwarves
>>712385149 (OP)Iโm about to start a katarin campaign tomorrow. I have 1000+ hours in 2 and 3, but I started about a month ago a little project to play every single immortal empires character to at least a short victory. Kat tomorrow would be #9 I think.
>>712388217Buy tww3 AND tww1:
>tww3 has so many updates (for the best or the worst) that 1 and 2 seems barebones.>tww1 gives you so many iconic "heroes" that is a must buy, like gelt, wuzragh and Manfred.>don't buy 2, buy it's dlcs because they unlock so many units that are missing from the basic roster (skavens are the worst example) With that you can get a good first experience and access to a majority of factions and expand it buying their dlcs. Some dlc i recommend: prophet and the warlock, silent and the fury, queen and the crone, gorband (youbcant play savage orc without it)
>>712394908lol
lmao, even
It has denuvo, so unless you want to play it on a meme OS that does not allow malware to have kernel level access you're shit out of luck. It does support both mac and linux though so there's that.
>>712395449Why are you posting something that was outdated 6 years ago?
>>712395449I'm actually butthurt that CA made it so magic and fire resistance don't apply to unit attack attributes because Irondrakes being effectively 99% immune to Sisters of Avelorn was the funniest shit.
>>712385149 (OP)>Buy game>Over half the factions are locked behind paywalls>Play as Bretons because they're free>Oh wait no they aren't you have to buy WH1 to play themI hate being scammed so no.
No.
I only play the lotr mod for medieval: total war 2.
There is just something about the new total wars that don't click for me and I bought them all up to warhammer 1.
1
md5: d7caa4497b33c4cafa6195c13e84968b
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dose kislev still look like total fucking gorilla nigger dogshit ?
yes
THEN NO HOLY FUCK I HATE ANGLO SO MUCH AHHHHH bit low energy tonight holy shit nottinghm should be nuked
>>712385262Magnificent. When is the next game with good "cavalry smash" gameplay?
>>712389137>>712389203>>712389295The only factions that clicked for me were Vampires (wind of death spam), Skaven (artillery and projectile spam), and to a lesser extent Dwarves (camping with artillery). No, I don't like this genre at all, despite desperately wanting to love Total War Warhammer because the game oozes soul, and has an awesome setting and lore. I wish they had a game mode for people who hated control stupid, unreliable blobs of units.
WHERE IS THE FUCKING DOGS OF WAR DLC
Fantasy is a dogshit setting, give me a necrocum game.
>>712396549I'm going to impregnate her.
>>712396549Built for Slaaneshi corruption
>>712395449>knife ears getting blown the fuck outWhat else is new?
>>712385149 (OP)I refuse to play before the DLC.
>>712396393Scrapped. This DLC is the last one we're getting before they dedicate their entire manpower on an End Times expansion.
Playing Yuan Bo, what should I be doing with his Cathay holding? Eltharion at least gets a second lord and a strong city worth holding with his split start, while this city is T1 and only gives access to trash units to build up from nothing. Do most just ignore it and come back to conquer later?
>>712387190isn't slaanesh the next DLC?
>>712398354>their entire manpowerCA has already dropped Warhammer 3 from their main studio's focus. That's already working on the next title. Warhammer 3 DLC is being done by Studio Sophia. there is probably going to be 1 other DLC and based on how well it does MAYBE end time one at some point.
>>712391380worse is that TW used to have effective explosives in shogun2
>>712392175Being Skrolk is hurt-suffering
>>712398483Sell it for dosh, acquire lizard penis and elf ears for Chinese herbal remedy
>>712398546High Elves, Slaanesh, and Norsca.
Playing as Karl, just beat the secessionist, now what? I want to beat the shit out of Marienburg, but they're fucking full stack and camping at their city.
>>712398754Have they confirmed it's High Elves?
>>712396549I can jack off to this.
>>712398909In Warhammer 3 you have way more to worry about as the Empire than Marienburg. I would leave those guys alone. You've got like 3 different Legendary Lords to go kill in Toddbringers territory before they kill half the empire.
Wood elf wife when?????????????
>>712385149 (OP)What's so hammer about it?
>>712399059I figure it's probably going to be either Helfs or Delfs but I'm hoping it's VCs
>>712398909You've got gobbos, RAH-ROOs and The Poopsmith practically on your doorstep already anon, the burgers can wait.
I have over a thousand hours combined in the entire trilogy, I have completed every race campaign on legendary in every single game, and yet I have never played a single skaven campaign.
>>712398968Yes but they haven't specified who their lord is going to be, but most people are assuming it's Aislinn since he's a naval commander and he has a superiority complex like Imrik, minus the good meaning charm to it. He's just an asshole. Fitting for a Tide of Torment.
Give me snake princess though.
I just want to fuck Miao Ying badly.
>>712399446Dragon Blooded Shugengan exist so she fucks and gets pregnant.
Played a Cylostra campaign on Vortex last week. By far my least favorite of the four VC LLs
>>712399446Miao Ying is built for Big Imrik Cock
>>712389004High elves are very strait forward, their griffon lord fuy is good
>>712397821>>712398354There is NO FUCKING WAY they scrapped DoW.
>>712399749Imrik is literally overcompensation incarnate.
Like legit, if there was a wind of small dicks, it'd IMMEDIATELY bind to him during ET and he'd have to go through all the books enduring the fact everyone now knows.
>>712399663Even over Aranessa? At least the units Cylostra buffs are actually good. I didn't love Vampire Counts in general though.
Vortex is actually good. I don't get the hate. I prefer it over Immortal/Mortal Empires. I don't give a fuck what's happening on the other side of the planet when I'm only going to play it for 50-100 turns anyway. Realms of Chaos is a harder sell because of those tower defense missions but they essentially let you skip those now so it's not as bad.
>>712385149 (OP)I tried, but my CPU gets too hot.
>>712389137Don't listen to this retard, Karl Franz is one of the harder start positions once you actually finish your initial clean up of the secessionists.
>>712399891Aranessa on Vortex is one of the best Vortex campaigns imo because you get to bully HElves the whole game and your base is much closer than Noctilus's.
I don't like any of the Vortex race campaigns because of the random spawns that raze your shit but everyone else who doesn't have to do the race is pretty good (except Throt)
I played one RoC campaign as Katarin and it was actual garbage
>>712390248Miners with blasting charges are almost the cheapest unit the dwarves have. White lions are definitely not the cheapest unit the elves have. Those miners also have another couple volleys of blasting charges. Elfcucks coping once again.
did they boost the performance? i remember playing 2 years ago and i barely could mantain 30 fps
>>712389004Tyrion is easy mode in both games
Yuan Bo is OP and has an easy start location
>>712399302It's a faction for a specific kind of player the kind I would assume likes Legendary difficulty. They're all about trying to stack your deck against the enemy and avoid fair fights at all cost. I don't particularly love them compared to factions with more conventional and straightforward methods.
I actually liked pitched battles where my armies clash and a win is coming down to a good charge or a well placed spell or good timing on a Lord kill but I'm a fucking casual when it comes to total war and have no interest in Legendary difficulty, at least when it comes to stat modifiers. Hard/Very hard on campaign and battle is where I typically find my fun
>>712389004Tyrion or Zhao Ming are always the go-to beginner and edcuative campaigns. I'd also add Thorek to that list.
I don't think any of the game 1 LLs are good beginner campaigns anymore. Definitely not Karl, who not only now has a truckload more enemies than he used to have back when he was a recommended first campaign, but now also has a couple mechanics that demand at least a fair bit of game knowledge to be able to take full advantage of. Elspeth might be slightly more straightforward but I'd still not say she's beginner level.
I was a big enjoyer of Rome and ME2 and I tried TWW2 but thereโs so much going on in the over world of the game that it feels more like a civ game and I got burnout after a few hours of playing
>>712400162Actually kind of impressive they managed to make the premise of invading the Realm of Chaos annoying as shit.
>>712399302Ikit Claw gets to spend the whole game bullying the Fr*nch with nukes its really fun. On Vortex he gets to bully dinosaurs with nukes instead
>>712400165regular miners only have 1 ammo. only the ror miners and ironbreakers can throw more than once.
>removes free skeletons
>removes Arch Lector Free Company Militia & Flagellant buffs
I fucking hate TWW3 so much.
>>712399302I've played just about every skaven LL because it's genuinely one of the most fun factions in the game, but now I feel like I have to wait until Thanquol finally arrives.
>>712400162I suck with Skaven but played a Vortex with a few of them with decent success but to this day I have zero fucking idea how you're supposed to effectively proceed with Throt early on in Vortex. You get fuck all to start with and have to take a Capital with a guaranteed stack on top of it and a buffed wood elf army just to get your first province.
>>712400274Yeah it's called buying a PC components that were made after 2012.
>>712399302most fun faction in the game
>600 hours in 1
>2500 hours in 2
>1000 hours in 3
I don't even play battles anymore, I just autoresolve so I can get back to manipulating the campaign map.
>>712400875It's so fascinating how this game attracts 4x autists who genuinely hate the actual gameplay and devote themselves entirely to the worst aspect of the game.
Predict the starting races of TWW 40k.
>>712400875To be fair, if you fight any dlc faction in an actual battle, your most expensive units will get wiped out by a full screen tactical nuke if you take your eyes off them for 1 second in order to micro.
>>712400875>770 in 1>2350 in 2>2100 in 33's gonna catch up soon for me apparently.
Anyway, I still don't autoresolve everything, though I feel lately I do it more than I should to keep the game fun.
i'll play only if theres a mod to make every battle a field battle
>>712400960The problem is that the battle AI is so braindead and predicable, oh look they have arranged themselves in a wide line with one or two cav units on the flanks and arty units in the back and now they are going to slowly approach me, I wonder how this battle will pan out.
Was Warhammer 1 secretly the best in the series all along?
>>712400975TWW 40k 1: Space Marines, Orks, Chaos, Eldar
TWW 40k 2: IG, Necrons, Tau
TWW 40k 3: Dark Eldar, Sisters, Tyranids
>>712400975>My prediction:Space Marines (starting with Ultramarines and expanding from there to other legions)
Chaos Marines (ditto with Black Legion)
Orkz
Eldar
Imperial Guard added the same way Bretonnia was in 1, as a placeholder to be fleshed out later
>My personal wishlistTau
Mechanicus
White Scars
Harlequins adapted into a full faction like they were in 8th but actually with a more complete and fleshed out roster that then translates into GW also readapting back into the tabletop so Cegorach (best god) can truly have his day
>>712401228No, it was horrendously bad compared to 2 and even 3. Shut the fuck up.
>>712400975Stormcast eternals
Blood angels
Skaven
Bretonians
Orks
Green skins
Skaven
Dark eldar
>>712401252ANNOUNCE A RELEASE DATE ALREADY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
for the DoW redemake, I mean
>>712400975orks obviously
probably tyranids for massive horde battles
chaos obviously
spess marines have to be in there
maybe the Guard for bigger battles
>tfw didn't bought any DLC
>too lazy to use creamapi
Which faction is badly gimped without any DLC units?
>>712400975Space Marines (Ultramarines obv.)
Choas (Black Legion)
Orks
Necron
IG will be in as non-playable, much like in DoW1
>>712401605The entire game is a massive clusterfuck with zero balance or forethought it really doesn't matter, plus MP faggotry has steadily sucked away at any fun that was in the game.
>>712400975I don't think they'll be doing another trilogy and instead relying on the work from Warhammer 3 to provide a baseline, from which they'll release a bunch of DLC, unfortunately probably closer to the way that Paradox does their shit after the initial launch.
At the most baseline I would assume it's Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines, Eldar, then Orks, each with 2 or 3 legendary lords. Probably 3 pretty similar Codex Compliant Chapters, so Ultramarines, Imperial Fists, and Salamanders, Chaos will probably all be Black Legion Warbands, not specific God devotees, Eldar will all be Craftworlders, Orks will be Orks.
>>712401406Alright, sorry I snapped at you. I thought you were being silly.
>>712401605Isn't Skaven basically unplayable without DLC? All of their gunners are locked lmao. What are you gonna do, Storm Vermin doomstacks? Might work on easy difficulty.
>>712401605Skaven are pretty much useless in late game without weapon teams and Vehicles from Ikit's DLC and Lizardmen also get some useful low tier stuff but it doesn't effect their late game as much as the skaven does.
Chaos is strong with just it's base DLC but you'll want the Lord packs for a few unit buffs and getting the feeling that you're bringing all of Chaos under one banner to destroy the world, which is easily the best feeling in the game for myself personally.
Most other races, it's meh. There is some fun stuff here and there but it's hardly ever worth it unless you particularly like a faction.
>>712398681Holy Slaanesh I was not expecting that much money. Eltharion gets shit for giving up a way better city. DLC power creep I guess
>>712401852For Chaos Marines they'd probably do Black Legion, Word Bearers and Red Corsairs because that's the most bland they could make them without people crying that they didn't use different legions/warbands.
>Black LegionAbaddon LL, literally just generic Chaos army with maybe a shitty Black Crusade mechanic that lets him spawn a free army once every 20-30 turns
>Word BearersErebus LL, literally the same as Black Legion but with a bonus to spreading corruption and daemons (only 2-3 daemon units in the game at launch)
>Red CorsairsHuron LL, again the same as the BL but with a bonus to raiding and some cheaper, weaker units due to being renegades instead of First Founding
>>712389137Lizardmen with Kroq'gar is really simple. Saurus are so strong they regularly go insane while holding the line, and when they come to their senses the enemy has had enough and is running away.
>>712402532>play Yin Yin campaign>choice is either leave and get jack shit or endure a dinosaur apocalypse that makes Wulfric's campaign look like baby daycare
>>712402334Yeah, all their really good shit (ratling guns, jezzails) are locked behind the Ikit DLC. You'd really think jezzail teams at the very least would be in the base game, but no: warpfire throwers only, final destination.
>>712402594Oh yeah, that's a good point. I'm curious how exactly they're going to do territory. I imagine it'll be a Sector or Sub Sector, but maybe they'll pull an Armageddon and justify dozens of factions all on a single planet. Will they try to do Space Battles after ignoring the navy for several games?
I just got a new amd ryzen CPU. I am PRAYING it fixes a lot of the slowdown and frame loss on the map.
>>712396191lol just lower the battle difficulty, im a battlet myself
>t. Campaign hard, battle easy
>just want to play Slaanesh and corrupt Yinners
>get forced into Elf War instead
>>712402862guaranteed you "space" battles will be ship interiors
>>712389137Fuck no maybe in TW1 or start of TW2 but now?! His start has like 5 fucking problems to deal with. Greenskins, Norsica, Chaos, Drycha, Vampire Counts. And angry Elector Counts. It is a hard start.
>>712402979>he thinks he's going to Space
>>712402979"Boarding Actions" honestly wouldn't be the worse thing on earth. Battlefleet Gothic was fun but I don't really have an interest in playing some spectacularly downgraded version of it.
I'm generally hoping for more chaotic and tunnel like maps of Hallways and Ruined buildings to encourage you to spread out your forces for different avenues of approach, resulting in lots of small conflicts instead of one massive blob, but I fully expect CA's AI to go full retard if they try it.
>>712403032My fav method as Karl is holding only my starting province and trying to keep all the elector count independent and alive.
glad i finally understood how to play a fugging 4x game, been having so much fun with warhammer its so addicting
>>712402862I'd love to see space battles done something like the Battlefleet Gothic games but there's zero chance of us getting that. It'll be like
>>712402979 said or the minimalist battles from something like Rogue Trader (in real time, not turn based) at best.
>>712403109If they do end time Morathi better get the option to get her Daemon Prince form
There needs to be a mod where you can pick who to play as and then just pick where to start, it gets boring doing the same thing. Alternatively a mod where you can play coop-multiplayer but by yourself so you just control 2 factions. Again this would simply be so I could start a new campaign and have a different scenario than usual to play out
>>712403109I NEED mommy Morathi to keep me as her sex slave
>still no dlc news
How are they struggling to release 2 packs a year? There's like barely 20 units in a pack
So we have a slaaneshi dlc and they've shown no slaanesh in trailers yet, why?
>>712403296there's a random start locations mod but i think it randomizes everyone's position
>>712403109Turning a Druchii female into a soft spoken tradwife.
i want to like the tw games but the overworld not having a grid got me fucked up
>>712403412You'll die on that mountain, son.
>>712403347Sofia is doing all the DLC work since Pharaoh flopped and the main studio is busy with TWW 40k or TW Star Wars, who knows
>>712400162I played RoC with Miao despite all warnings because I was interested in seeing what the story would be. Finally complete the piece of shit and the most low-effort of all cutscenes say "Ursun told us where the lost dragon is before he died, we will go look there now" and it just ends. Base game Vortex endings were better than this.
>>712400960I would argue that that its the worst aspect from a 4x perspective.
Its an earth shaped fantasy map with decades worth of lore. Between your regular high fantasy of elves and dwarves, to your far out there dino and ratmen, it has a little something for everyone.
My last five campaigns have all been as the empire, because there is nothing better than bringing those filthy fantasy races under mans boot
>>712385149 (OP)I got TW WH2 for free on Epic a while back a go and started playing recently.
Started on the High Elf vortex campaign as recommended. They play extremely conventional, but spearmen seem really weak. Is that just spearmen in general or do other faction spearmen fare better.
I'm mostly just archer spamming my way to victory until midgame where I started using Hoeth swordpeople. Are the Chrace lions worth it? Or should I keep archer spamming those slots?
>>712403483Games Workship does have a Lord of the Ring line of models but I can't imagine that's the IP they'd be interested in embellishing.
>>712403347They palmed the rest of W3 off to their third world eastern bloc studio, please understand.
>>712403483Sofia? My beautiful TW3 DLC is being handled by fucking BULGARS?!?!
BARF
>>712385149 (OP)its like literally 500 fucking dollars to play with all the DLC fuck that
>>712403412REVOLTING. DIE.
>>712403524Lions are for flanking. You can use spears, archers and sea guard for most of the campaign.
>>712385149 (OP)FOR ZEEEEEE LADDDDDDDYYYYYYYYYY
>>712403524In Warhammer 2, Infantry and Cavalry are generally on the weaker side compared to other total war games. Archers and Magic are king. It's not that Infantry doesn't serve a purpose, but in general they're not going to be your primary damage dealers like they were in something like Rome. Their job, and all that you should expect from them, is that they hold the line for a few minutes so your archers, artillery, monsters, mages, or heroes can go and kill the important stuff.
>>712403607I believe Star Wars was part of that supposed leak from Legend like a year ago
>>712403524Lions disintegrate almost all low tier stuff when they flank since they cause fear. which compounds with the morale debuff from getting flanked by a charge.
>4 units to hold the line
>4 ranged units
>4 cav/flanker units
>4 heavy/special infantry units
>Lord
>1 or 2 heroes
>1 or 2 artillery or monsters
Every time.
Sniffing my Asur wife's panties
>>712403389oh fuck, that works I guess. I'll have to try it for my next run
>>712403834I could see it but I'm not sure how'd you do faction variety or milk DLCs from a Faction perspective in Star Wars. CA is on the financial backfoot, they need something that'll sell big on launch and offer lots of DLC potential so they can milk it until their next big game.
>>712404047Blessed image, I'm taking that.
>>712403685Stupid Delf bitch. In game you have maybe a B Cup. LOL
>>712404047ALLONSY, REPANSE! ALLONSY!
>>712403895Teclis's campaign sucks in 3 but in 2 he was really fun to run a hero stack with a Loremaster and Mages
>>712404047Big Henry Cock
>>712403895>15+ Heavy infantry with various weapons>2-3 heavy cavalry>maybe a hero>maybe some rangedThis is me
>>712404209>Whole point of the character is wandering the civilized world and making allies with all the races of order>3 puts him in the ass end of the world next to 2 Tzeencth fags and a bunch of lizards who will gang rape you over the smallest slight to any of them. Bruh, this fucking sucks. I can't belive they've done this to my boy.
SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS
>>712404340Hammer meet Anvil
Again and Again and Again
>% bonus to looting settlements
>% bonus to sacking settlements
>>712404438Karl Franz is the only campaign I've played in all three games
>>712404502I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE INVENTORY
>>712404502built for Skaven, V.Coast, Warriors of Chaos, and Beastmen
>>712397573Doujins for this feeling? ANYTHING at all for more like this? The other mods arent as good as this masterpiece.
>>712404502What was the stupid cheese again? Something something sacking the same settlement over and over again? Man these games are shit. If Warhammer was not attached to the name I'd never have played this shit.
>>712405075you can keep sacking to level up the sacking skill but there's a gold penalty for sacking the same settlement multiple times in quick succession
>>712405314Pretty sure in 2 it was the meta for pretty much everything. You'd farm gold and your units would level for doing nothing.
I really hate how it seems like the game keeps track of your factions power, and if you don't have an equivalent power level of enemies currently at war with you a nearby faction will declare war on you essentially out of the blue just to keep said power level even. It makes it so that you never get a few quiet turns to rebuild, reorganize and recruit new units in peace and quiet. The game makes you always constantly be at war no matter what and it fucking sucks.
>>712405827there's a heavy anti-player bias in 3 which is weird because they turned it down during 2's development
NO VOICE IN OUR EARS BUT THE MAW
>>712405827>>712405937What really started annoying me is because of this, my own allies or potential allies get to blob for free because all AI armies are hitting me instead. Then they get fucking massive and I can't confederate them.
>Beastmen bloodgrounds settlements icon bog still not fixed
Fucks sake I just want to migrate my herd to Cathay and dine on girlflesh already but I refuse to put up with this shit.
https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/bugs/7871-raising-herdstone-razed-icon?page=1
>>712404518>want to play other race>goes back to KarlEveryfucking time
WE RELISH(yum) THE SOUND OF IT'S CALL
>>712388217buy the third game from a key site and creamapi all the dlcs
>>712385149 (OP)Warhammer insists upon itself.
>>712405937>turned it down during 2's developmentWas it? I remember shit like Tor Elasor going across the world to attack you in lustria, and if ai losing 20 settlements to another ai because they divert all their armies towards you and never want peace until they go from 50 to 4 settlements left.
Id rather rub glass into my eyes, no thanks. Cancer DLC game from a cancer company
lorelet here. who the fuck is kaine and why is he mad?
>>712408920He's an elven god of cuckoldry, he's angry because Morathi won't let him watch
>>712408114>Tor Elasorwell... on Mortal Empires for sure. There's definitely still some crazy TWW3-esque aggressive AI on Vortex. That's the real bullshit part about Throt's Vortex campaign. At least one of the DElves will declare war on you randomly, even with positive relations. You can see the AI difference in Mortal vs. Immortal Empires though with how WElves act for example
>>712390248The morale hit is pretty good.
Flank and throw at an engaged unit.
>>712403895>4 flame fire rats>4 ratatats>4 sniper rats>2 catnons>2 cat apults>1 nuke rat>2 warlock rats>1 bzzt
>>712400975Guard (Cadia/Krieg)
Loyalist Astartes (Ultramarines/Blood Angels/Blood Ravens would be kino
Renegade Astartes (Red Corsairs/Ashen Claws)
Orks (Goffs/Bad Moons)
Eldar (Ulthwe/Ynnari even though it should be Yriel/Iyanden
Chaos (World Eaters/Death Guard)
Chaos Marines (Iron Warriors/Word Bearers)
DLC is T'au, Dark Eldar, Nids + more leaders.
I dunno if this feels too anemic desu
When do people think that Total War 40k might release, are there any rumours or is it all speculation based on their release history?
>>712413162we had five years between TWW1, 2, and 3 so that would be 2027 be another five years. Hoping for next year though since everything else is so far this summer is being announced for them
What are the best lord traits?
Early/mid/end game
I read that I'm supposed to be on the lookout for a dragon trait prince for HE
Also what's the reason why Fantasy Orcs have a "C" instead of their space cousins with a "K"?
>>712413465Did CA spin up an entirely new team for the fictional games, or should it be X years after TW Pharaoh for the estimate?
>>712413682Main office is working on the next game, Sofia is working on the TWW3 DLC now
>>712413657Probably depends on the faction and the type of lord and the army they're commanding. If you've got a lord that's going to be getting into the thick of the fighting, then traits that buff their individual unit would be good. And you've got weird edge cases like Slann who only have second/third/fourth generation, where earlier generations are just better versions of later generations. I've played a lot of Kroq'Gar, so I don't really have the best idea of what all traits are available to the other factions.
>>712398574>Main studio's focusYou mean the guys that gave us launch RoC? Good fucking riddance. I look forward to the period two or three years after the next mainline game's release after CA Sofia have come in to fix enough of their fuckups to make the game somewhat playable yet again.
>>712413657I always take the +15% ambush chance in region lords no matter what and will often check the lord pool even if I don't need one just to snag any with that trait for later. Baiting and ambushing is just so important in this game.
>>712386856Malakai.
Try to keep Boris alive
>>712391196Go back to making videos tarriff
>>712398754So far theyโve updated every game 1 race, it makes sense that VC will be next
What's the point if burning chariots if changebringers do everything they do but better?
>>712385149 (OP)why? anything good since shadows of change came out? that was the last dlc I "acquired"
>>712417413Changebringers were a kneejerk inclusion to try and up SoC's unit count because the player revolt nearly killed the entire game. CA probably didn't think about their role in the roster too hard, it was just convenient that a single Storm of Chaos rulebook said in a single line "at one point btw some Flamers rode Discs of Tzeentch and acted as flying cavalry" (they never got a model) so CA could just slap disc models on flamer models and say they were adding a whole new unit to the game. They are indeed just straight up better.
>>712397573Any word if there's gonna be more of this good shit when the Slaanesh DLC drops?
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why are dwarfs so much fun
>strong melee units
>lots of different kind of artillery that are insanely strong, short range shotgun types, long range snipers, catapults, catapults with cluster ammunition, flame cannons, flame cannons with cluster ammo etc
>strong ranged units, iron drakes are bonkers
>helicopters with trollhammers, flamethrowers, bombs etc
>cool legendary lords
>oathgold to craft good equipment for all your heroes and lords
>deep roads buildings
so far ive played empire, krokodile people,tzeentch, orcs and tried bit of the undead bois but everything feels incomplete and dog shit compared to dwarfs
>>712417795Yeah Thrones of Decay was great. Empire and Dwarfs not only got fun LLs but Franz and Gelt got extensive updates to their campaigns and the Dwarfs entire campaign mechanic got an extensive rework. Nurgle's pretty fun too.
>>712385262>cuts right before all the models stand back upUnless you're using that obscenely overpowered enhanced cavalry breakthrough mod, in which case, carry on. That shit is fun as fuck.
>>712417973I got this fucker's DLC during the last sale; Holy shit he is so much fun
>>712416937 Based. Ambush trait is criminally underrated, especially for factions with trash early game armies that rely on cheese to stay afloat. Nothing like wiping three stacks in a turn because AI walked into your blender forest. Also works stupidly well with Skaven where ambush = auto win 90% of the time. Iโll even take a garbage trait lord if heโs got ambush, retire him later once the expansion phase is done.
>>712417973Sounds like you might also like skaven
>>712397573It's time for me to finally play this mod. I hope it's actually fappable and not just a few lazy throwaway lines.
>>712418051>cuts right before all the models stand back upLol seriously. Jank ass shit.
>>712418154i just bought the game from cdkey website for 14 dollars, it said its physical copy key so i dont think they can refund
then i used creaminstaller and unlocked all the dlc to save 300 dollars
>>712385149 (OP)sure but not the third one
>>712395745I'm pretty sure 6 years falls under eternal
>>712418154>I got DLCretard, it's all completely free
>>712388131*helicopter noises and Fortunate Son playing in the background*
>>712418510where'd you get your cream?
>>712385149 (OP)I just wish WH3 would get cracked already
>>712418839https://gofile.io/d/90Exof
>>712385149 (OP)when they fix the bugs without introducing new ones. so never.
>>712385149 (OP)I suck ass at Total War games. Can never get into them.
>>712419120dont worry warhammer 3 is one of the easier ones, not as easy as rome 2 but its absolutely nothing compared to attila or shogun 2
>>712419198Isn't Shogun 2 the easiest? Just spam Ashigaru speardudes
>>712419218its not that simple when the AI has super buffed samurai archers turn 3, the AI is also super duper treacherous and politics system doesnt practically exist, every turn you are playing lottery if everyone declares war and attacks you from every side
>>712385149 (OP)naah maybe when itโs finished
>>712399208>>712404858>>712405051>>712417934>>712418463I'm honestly a big fan of it. If you don't like preggo stuff you don't have to breed but I like it a lot. Praying that we get more of these. I also played the Alarielle corruption mod too and it was VERY in depth. Should give that one a try if you haven't.
>>712387164this is such a real post.
It is just a straight up enticing screen.
any mods to make game campaign feel slower?
>>712419602Yeah, I'll likely pass on the breeding, but we'll see. I'm usually not a fan.
>I also played the Alarielle corruption mod too and it was VERY in depth. Should give that one a try if you haven't.Nice, I'll have to add that one in once I finish with Lazy's stuff. Cheers
>is the only SOVLful part of 3
>>712419850just note that windows defender doesnt like programs that go around editing api files
>>712419602these mods are gay because they make you play as the woman. where's the mod where you play as sigvald and rape all of the female lords until they love you?
>>712419720You can significantly slow campaign speed with SFO menu options (decrease exp, movement speed, growth, replenishment, increase construction time) and it works for both AI and you.
>>712419720play dwarf and their abysmal growth
>>712420191>sigvald>rapingimplying he would need to rape women. also, he prefers the bussy :D. he would instantly sissyfi you with his mega slaanesh aura and pound ur bussy till your prostate comes out of your mouth :D
>>712420191There's a mod where you play as Azazel I think where you corrupt Miao, Alarielle and Kata.
>>712385149 (OP)>PLAY TOTAL WARHAMMERim not paying $60 for this shit lmao
>>712420307>he's not farm-maxing>he's not building undercitiesngmi
>>712420408>zoomer can't creamas expected
>>712420286that is actually something useful. in very hard/legendary campaigns shit is done by turn 50-60. and i honestly found early campaigns a lot of fun. everyone running around with low tier units is much more engaging that rolling over the entire map with my doomstacks. they also need to give us more reason to manual battle. why would i waste time on horrible sieges when i just can auto
Excited to finally try Norsca after putting them off since game 1.
>>712419602which alarielle mod is it again?
>>712420428are you actually retarded? the base game is $60 and still hasn't been cracked to this day
>>712420501>norscahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02vgCZZAVUo
return to monke
>>712420106dun worry man, i lobotomized my OS.
>>71242056816 dollars on keysites zoomzoom. Now sit on cs.rin like a good boy until it's cracked (never)
Waiting for the druchii DLC
>>712420560Alarielle, Temptation's Bloom
It's easier to find all the stuff on discord
A little heavy on lesbian sex and there's a lot of smut reading but I think it's pretty good.
>>712388217I'll go against the flow and recommend buying TWW1 for pennies and play one Empire (Karl Franz) campaign. If you like it, buy 2 and play one Mortal Empires HE campaign (Tyrion). If you like both, get 3 then try other factions and supplement it with DLC to unlock the full roster.
This way you'll already have all 1/2 races available (but without DLC units) and if you don't like the general gameplay, you'll only have bought 1 or 2 games
>>712419602what's the point of a fucking porn mod for these kinds of games. Your dopamine receptors are so fried they can't experience any other enjoyment?,
>>712420931>and there's a lot of smut readingIs that supposed to be a bad thing?
t. has a window with like two dozen literotica tabs open along with a few from AO3
>It's another episode of Middenland jobbing to Beastmen and Orcs so fucking fast
>forcing me to change my priorities from wiping out Barrow Legions asap to protect the frogs from wiping out
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>712420931>dream event>2/4go on...
It's another empire campaign except this time I'll spice it up by playing the Pope in Egypt
>>712388708>>712389253Ain't it full of malware nowadays?
>>712421848CA told you that?
>>712421457High T and active sex drive. Please try not to be so homosexual.
I just enjoy sexual themes in all things, it's lacking in almost every form of media. I like women, I'm sorry if that offends you.
>>712421527>Is that supposed to be a bad thing?Just not used to it but I'm getting adjusted to it. Mostly a more visual or audio enjoyer but unironicaly stuff like this makes me an active reader lol
>>712421609>go on...There's like 100 of these scenes in this mod so I couldn't possibly go through them all lmao
>>712422045post the snake one
>>712403895>1 Lord>19 Black OrcsI CAN'T FUCKING STOP MYSELF
>>712421527>mfw my first introduction to porn was literature and now nothing else hits the same
>>712385149 (OP)I cant beat the teclis campaign on legendary, not due to the battles but the campaign map.
I have tried it so many times and I dont think it is possible the mongs at CA dont actually test their game on the harder difficulties.
>kill initial foe in two turns>next natural enemy would be the skaventakes at least 8 turns to get to their end province, at turn 4 one of your provinces will be swaped to either the nurgle or tzeench factions so you have to wait to reclaim it. if you are lucky you can take two provinces from the skaven (the last place to delete them is 3 moves away at this point) before fate wever declares war on you.
you now have to take the skaven last place and work your way back as they will have retaken the placed you just took and eventually kick fateweaver out of your initial province. you can invade the chaos wastes but it takes too long for your units to replenish as it is not a sutible climate and the slanesh faction will also declare war on you. the best option seems to let one of the lizard men take them out for you.
while this is going on wurzag has become an unstopable monster who will declare on you, he has 6 armies at least all with waaghs againt your 2.
decide to change it up and do a beastmen game
>karl has a hardon for me the entire game no matter where i go there he ishe eventually just starts fielding full stacks of land ships
it really feels like they dont actually play the game
>>712401147oh they are getting reinforcements i wonder if they will wait to attack me then move in a big long line against me
>>712398354>>712397821Source? They wouldn't be so stupid as to deny us an opportunity to make mashup armies, right? Surely the understand the incredible potential this would bring, not to mention fleshing out Tilea/Estalia?
Right?
>>712421961Windows Defender and Malware Bytes told me it
>>712422679>scared by hacktool.win32
>>712421848>>712422679the automatic installer one probably is but the baseline version of cream is fine
>>712393652The sisters are insanely overpowered once you get the extra volley of kurnous and like 8 hawk riders into the army. Just delete half the enemy army at the start of the batlle, then delete the other half a minute later.
But you can't really autoresolve, which sucks donkey dick.
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>Hey let's just make a unit with over 120 WoMs in-built as bound spells(with 200% spell intensity)
What the fuck were they thinking. Why is this a thing.
>>712422526Itโs just a minor skaven faction. A mage + garrison should be enough to hold them off whilst Teclis destroys Kairos. Then you just sell of all the chaos territory and go back to your starting province. Itโs slow and you donโt get much of a reward for it so I wouldnโt recommend a Teclis campaign
>>712422905I'll give it another shot, thanks
>>712422247I prefer to read porn over watching it. Vaginas and dicks look icky in real life, and animated stuff tends to be either short or fucking weird. Thank god for my active imagination. Also, AI. Holy fuck, so much on-demand smut.
Anyway, played through the Azazel's Domain mod recently, and it was actually pretty damn fun. It adds a surprising amount of gameplay, not just smut scenes. You get portals from the starting province to Cathay and eventually Ulthuan (if N'kari fucks up), long-ass quest chains with actual quest battles in them and pretty damn good corruption porn to boot. It had more gameplay than most mods I use, actually. I liked Miao's story better than Katarins, but they were both hot, and some day I'll play through it again from the Miao's perspective, I think.
ate umies
ate orcs
ate chaos
luv me tyrant
luv me gut
luv me gnoblar
simple as
>>712424432love these fat gobbers, tho their unreliability is way overused for plots
>>712424504I think that's endemic to them being the most true neutral faction who will fight for absolutely anybody if they can get fed/paid, this also leads to them not getting a ton of relevance in the lore as a whole
Love them all the same though
>>712395449A WORTHY DEATH
>>712403895>slayer lord>19 slayerswhatever happens I win
>>712424938>didn't die in battleBad slayer
Get out there and fulfill your oath
so the DLC will bring more elves
Coomers and slaneshniggers make these threads unbareable
>>712423932they have 2 full armies and a half stack which is just too much
i usually get a princess but maybe i should try a mage
Anyone have the gif of The Great Unclean One shitting on an army? There literally is not a worse death than being covered in stinking, acidic, mucous laden shit
>>712423874Overbuffed. When they were first introduced they did not have bound spells, they had the normal spells that shared the winds of magic pool and they generally cost more to cast than any spellcaster lord or hero so they were originally quite useless. CA then buffed them but in true CA fashion kinda overdid it.
I fear they will ruin everything with End Times
more Age of Sigmar retard shit in the game
>>712403109economy overhaul when
i hate this chaos dwarf v0.01a alpha shit
>>712385149 (OP)Once it comes out of early access. Thanks for betatesting though.
Iโm enjoying Golgfagโs campaign with the random start mod.
Just being a wandering, backstabbing asshole that fucks off from any consequences is great fun
>>712425712I seriously hope we don't end up getting Nagash DLC unless it's classic metal mini Pimp Coat Nagash. End Times Nagash would be gay as fuck.
Hoping we get Neferata instead for the inevitable VC rework.
>90% of the thread is goonposting retards
>>712425712Never gonna happen. This is GW weโre talking about. They wouldnโt even let CA put beaks on their tzaangors because they wanted them to be noticeably distinct from the AoS variants
>>712426886>t. christcuck LARPer
>>712425185>*dismounts horse*>*mounts goatmen*
>>712385262except impact damage in this game is pathetic because otherwise the big retard monsters would be too powerful so cavalry deals no damage other than from poking things with their weapons
>>712385149 (OP)I'd come back for a major new feature, especially naval combat, they could have spent all that time and money wasted on hyenas on naval combat, imagine that.
>>712404209>a hero stackretard
>Next patch updates fusing so only the same items will be produced(2 green armor will give 1 blue armor and not a blue sword).
Wow, took em long enough.
MY EYES GOBE BUT I SEE
when will they fix my boy
>>712427483Fuckng finally.
>>712423874Tzeentch is like, the ultimate be careful who you call ugly in school faction. His starting units and economy is ass, but he has the most powerful late game units in the game. As Karl it takes an entire army specifically built and designed just to kill Vlad, but if you're playing as the changeling, your starting single unit of changebringers can kill him, isabella and the generic vampire hero without even breaking a sweat.
>>712403895supremely based, fuck doomstacks
>>712428368I understand why I don't like the Changeling's campaign. His while deal is playing "catch em all" with his transformations and the goals to complete the theater of battle. But there are missions that includes having to fight factions that by the time you get there may have been wiped already and you will never be able to get all transformations since LLs gradually get killed off. And I hate getting softlocked on objectives.
>>712403895nineteen heavy cavalry and a fire wizard
>>712420931I lost my entire weekend to the Miao corruption mod
I shan't be doing another run of this, came like 6 times
>>712417413Burning chariots do a shit load of damage to single targets, dunno about changebringers
>>712389137Warriors of Chaos is much easier, you're a steamroller on the map.
Tamarkhan is great too, he's an absolute juggernaut if you want a fun Chaos campaign
>>712429670I played a vilitch campaign recently, had like 2 changebringers in my main army, decided to fight tamurkham, with his toad dragon no less. With his 11 thousand hp, his regeneration, his resistance and ward save, he did not last 30 seconds against them. They absolutely fucking tore through his health.
They are the single highest dps unit in the game.
>>712427329Where have you been? Cavalry shreds through anything that's not a braced line of infantry now. Almost Medieval 2 tier
>>712429012About to start one myself. Do I only need "Lazy's Corruption Progression Miaoying" and its dependencies from the workshop?
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>charges into the enemy
>gets stuck and dies
Wow awesome, great lord.
At least azazel can fly.
>>712430024Skill issue
He's an out-and-out duellist, have him isolate a lord or a hero and he'll shred them, you don't send N'kari into infantry blobs
>>712428789I mean, if not for Krell (and he doesn't count in autoresolve) and those graveguards (depending what kind of caster the prophetess is), I'd definitely give that fight to the brets. Not like the skellies can do a goddamn thing to the paladin, and if the prophetess has any kind of aoe nuke, she'll destroy the blob around the paladin.
>>712420347No he's not, he's into everything.
If it has a hole he's ready to role, if it doesn't he'll make one
So who got the hardest campaign and starting position?
>>712430184Either Khalida or Markus Wulfhart
I haven't played Khalida for ages but Markus might actually be even worse since they added Skulltaker a couple of provinces away
>>712385149 (OP)I did but sadly I quickly realized I dont particularly like total war and its combat and Id much rather play a 4X set in the warhammer universe (I know it doesnt really make sense lorewise)
>>712421435Came here to say that that's fucking retarded.
>>712430184I'd give it to Skarsnik. Both he and Belegar have challenge campaigns with punishing debuffs in the early game, but Belegar can get the dlc slayer units and those are just broken as fuck, as well as dwarfs generally being a pretty simple faction to play. Skarsnik starts even further away from K8P than Belegar does, and has Reikland and Argywlon coming at him from both sides.
>>712430184Skarsnik has it really really rough.
>>712430024You're supposed to cycle-charge with him.
If you do he's an absolute monster, but if you don't he withers and dies.
His speed is like sonic but he's giant with spells
>>712430184Definitely Khalida. Being stuck in between Thorek and Kroq'gar is a nightmare for Tomb Kings
>>712430024Dude has infinite mass and can walk through every unit that isn't a anti-large heavily armored halberd unit, and even then only really if the unit is braced and facing the charge.
Literal skill issue.
>>712430435In WH3 he starts at a Karak and has to deal with Thorgrim. He's much easier now
>>712430435Nasty Skulkers shred Dwarves though and you can spam those guys. Plus he's one of the only wh2 LLs who kept his endgame starting unit in wh3. He was way worse in wh2 than he is in 3.
Is there a good mod that keys you ride Gobbla as a mount?
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>>712430369That's because you're a moron, 3 can be overwhelming for newcomers. The basic gameplay remains the same, so doing one playthrough of 1 and 2 before deciding to buy 3 makes the more sense, especially since the purchase isn't wasted as it unlocks races in 3
>>712430435>>712430514lmao no fucking way. With Skarsnik you start in a tight passage province leading into another tight passage province. You just recruit as many skulkers as you can, which you can get a LOT of because you're fucking Skarsnik and get global upkeep reduction to all gobbos, and take down Thorgrim. You now have two of the richest provinces in the game, as a faction that gets global upkeep bonuses to already cheap units that you can also juice up with Skarsnik's special venom, with a faction leader that gets Stalk stance on top of WAAAGH mechanics. Then what waits before you is the Badlands, where you have no less than 5 factions to get quick confeds from by krumping their LLs, including Gorbad himself, and then you're just a short hop away from K8P. In my experience you don't even have to worry about Ungrim behind you because he gets locked in eternal stalemate with Azhag.
You don't even WANT K8P for the orc units, you don't need orcs as Skarsnik, you just want it so that now EVERY ARMY IN YOUR FACTION HAS STALK STANCE AND EVERY GOBBO IS EVEN MORE JUICED UP. The only negative Skarsnik has at all is that night gobbos underperform in autoresolve.
>>712430837He was talking about WH2 Skarsnik, who started in Karak Azgaraz fighting Karak Norn before getting assailed by Karl, Belegar, and Durthu
>>7124307371 is a significantly worse game that has almost none if the mechanics developed by 3. All you'd get is spending more money for a worse experience for the sake of learning to play the game wrong. Almost any non-Dlc lord is going to have fairly straightforward and easy to understand goals and objectives.
You're genuinely retarded or maybe just an honest to God shill. I'm not sure which.
>>712430857nigga you tripping
clearly Oda even with busted ashigaru
>>712400975Loyalist muhreens (definitely smurfs and blood angels, maybe fists, maybe wolves, possibly dark angels)
Chaos muhreens (death guard, world eaters, maybe thousand sons, maybe emp's children)
Guard (probably going to be split up on factional leaders but Cadia and Krieg will definitely be represented somehow)
Orks (different kinds of bosses: a normal one, a weirdboy and a mekboy probably, maybe a gretchin)
Eldar (don't care enough to list them)
MAYBE T'au but I doubt it
Deldar will almost certainly be an early DLC faction with a homunculus leader and some mechanics like clan moulder to create nasty shit
Nids will come later and will definitely have a whole DLC mechanic centered around them with reproduction, razing worlds, etc; gonna be hard to get them balanced
If T'au aren't in at launch they'll get a couple DLCs (assuming the first doesn't sell like shit).
They probably won't be in at launch but we'll likely get an Ecclesiarchy DLC later that adds them as a Guard faction with unique SoB and maybe assassin units. They don't have the manpower to be their own faction.
Mechanicus will probably get their own faction entirely later on in a DLC, possibly multiple.
Pure chaos (ie, not muhreens) will likely get DLC later as well, but if they're planning on doing multiple games then they're definitely getting saved for 2.
Obviously the launch factions will get expansions, we'll probably have every muhreen legion represented by the time the game(s) are finished.
>>712430975>He was talking about WH2He explicitly mentioned the Malakai DLC units from 3
>>712430024>play the cycle charge faction>why do i have to cycle charge
>>712430996>1 is a significantly worse game that has almost none if the mechanics developed by 3I specifically mentioned that 1 is more simple which is a good starting point for newcomers and some of 3s mechanics are highly questionable.
>All you'd get is spending more money for a worse experience for the sake of learning to play the game wrong. Almost any non-Dlc lord is going to have fairly straightforward and easy to understand goals and objectives.>You're genuinely retarded or maybe just an honest to God shill. I'm not sure which.If someone doesn't like the basic mechanics of 1 do you think they'll like 3? You want all those people to find it out by buying the significantly more expensive game and you're calling me a shill?
>>712431245>and has Reikland and Argwylon coming at him from both sidesI have no clue what he's huffing then since Skarsnik hasn't had to deal with either since WH2
>>712429947Yeah, but I also got some extra fluff from Loverslab as well like corrupted landmarks I think and some Zhao stuff which also adds extra dialogue and I can't tell you what wasn't included in the Steam workshop but you should be good if you just get that.
>>712431231>Ecclesiarchy DLC later that adds them as a Guard faction with unique SoB and maybe assassin units. They don't have the manpower to be their own factionWrong. It'll be reskinned imperial guard for tier 1 frateris militia chaff units, SOB for the mid and early high tier units, then Grey Knights/Inquisition for endgame units.
>>712400960I love total war battle gameplay but warscapeslop is floaty and unsatisfying and not a single game has managed to fix it.
>>712431689Also Admech are almost certainly not going to get their own faction unless CA were to get free reign to do what they wanted like they got with Vampire Coast
>>712430435>>712430514I love Skarsnik and I think he has one of the best starts
>stalk stance>take karaz-a-karak>take karak kadrin>confederate รถrks south, north and west if you can>remove rat>now every army has stalk stance>so many gobbos>so many squigs>gobbos all get buffed to late game infantry>nobody can stop youeveryone is sleeping on squigs, they're great, and the lore of the little waagh is underrated as well
>>712430024>gets stuckif you get nkari stuck youre insanely shit at this game, dude is an unstoppable lawnmower you would need to surround him with necrosphinxs to slow him down
No mounts, High Elf Prince or Princess?
>>712431301>All you'd get is spending more money for a worse experience for the sake of learning to play the game wrong.That's all that needed to be said. You're a moron.
>>712430996 is right. Arguing with you any further is pointless.
>>712432201Prince is better because ranged lords (outside of a very few exceptions) are garbage. Especially true on foot.
I always build princesses because they are cute.
>>712431773>Admech are almost certainly not going to get their own factionI really, really doubt that, they're incredibly popular and have more than enough units and named characters to form a faction of their own. They definitely won't be in at launch but I'd be very surprised if they didn't get a faction DLC later on.
>people talk about 40k total war like it's actually happening
kek
>>712431689Ideal setup
>Inquisition main faction>Ordo Hereticus subfaction (SoB)>Ordo Xenos subfaction (Deathwatch)>Ordo Malleus subfaction (Grey Knights)
>>712432571>CA will go back to making historical games because uhh.... For both CA and GW not making a 40K TW game - despite how well TWW has consistently sold and brought new customers to both companies - is the financial equivalent of unloading an uzi into your foot.
I'm not saying GW and CA haven't made stupid decisions in the past but this one would literally just be "we've decided we don't want any more money".
>>712432571It would be interesting for sure but where are they getting this idea from?
Wasn't even announced or teased at Warhammer Skulls.
>>712432831People need to get it out of their heads that it's going to be a Total War game. They can make a 40k game with grand strategy elements and real time battles, but it's probably not gonna be made by CA and it's not gonna be a Total War game. Honestly Relic is a much better pick for the studio. Make it Dawn of War 4 in the vein of Dark Crusade/Soulstorm with some added depth.
>>71243309240Kfags overdosing on hopium, that's the entire basis of TWWH40K existing. They enter every Total War thread/general to discuss a game that doesn't exist
>>712432571I do think there will be another total war crossover game at some point. But it'll probably be a brand new IP like LOTR or star wars.
40k isn't happening in the next 5 years.
CA have ONE (1) ((uno)) game that's selling at the minute and that's TW:WH3. They'll cash in on it until there's nothing left to give, so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if we do eventually get Khuresh, Ind, Nippon and Tilea etc because it makes financial sense. Once they know they're running out of content then we'll start to see the teases for it.
CA shit the bed hard with Hyenas and Pharoah, they won't strangle their golden goose any time soon.
>>712432831>I'm not saying GW and CA haven't made stupid decisions in the past but this one would literally just be "we've decided we don't want any more money".Not the first time companies don't want easy money.
Sony has absolutely refused porting Bloodborne to PC and Creative Assembly has refused to make Medieval 3.
>>712433463Warhammer 3 is already on maintenance, not being worked by the main studio. They're already working on something else. After Hyenas it's make or break.
>>712433463You realize that they arent paying 500+ employees with dlc sales alone right?
They need a new game
>>712433463That's as delusional as TW40K, the current team working on WH3 DLC is the downsized Bulgarian studio.
MAKE WAY!!
BEST FACTION COMING THROUGH!!!
>>712433583>>712433592>>712433625Sotek recently said he's spoken to some devs at CA and they're not considering winding down support for WH3 for a long long time because it's the only money spinner at the moment. Admittedly I think they'll release a smaller-scale project like TW: LOTR or something which has a hell of a lot less unit variety than WH but would bridge the gap nicely for them.
I've done some pretty grand migration campaigns so far.
1. Boris Ursus campaign. Fought, settled and abandoned my way to where Vilitch starts, killed him and made that base Boris's new HQ.
2. Malus Darkblade. Took him and his black arc all the way down to where he used to start and killed Kugath and settled up shop there once again.
3. Skrag the Slaughterer. Slaughtered his way to even more south of Kugath's location and took over the elf islands there, set up camps and buildings to generate meat with nobody daring to come and reach me.
>>712433706Based
I can hear Hell March playing over that webm
>>712424843they are fun as fuck, it's just my 'tism saying "ok the are good but you can't rely on them because they can turn on you at any moment notice". Maybe they are THAT good you can overlook the unreliability (I hate when my little dawis get betrayed :()
>>712433756>CA says they arent abandoning TWWShocker
Also, its already abandoned fucko, the slavs are the ones making content for it, and there is an entire fucking studio doing ??? right now
>>712385149 (OP)I've been feeling like it. Should I get 3 or just stick to 1+2?
I feel like a Lizardman campaign is coming on
>>712433878Nakai is really fun now compared to how dogshit he was in WH2
>>712433463>>712433583>>712433592>>712433625The main team is working on a new game but I think they are definitely weary about it's success given Pharoah doing poorly. TWW3 is definitely it's current golden goose so if the new game doesn't meet expectations they still have that to fall back on. That's why I don't believe it's ending any time soon.
>>712433312>it's probably not gonna be made by CAWhy not? People seem to forget that CA isn't actually just "The total war guys" and have made games in entirely different genres using entirely different engines (Halo Wars 2, Alien Isolation, Hyenas) and knocked it out of the park (Halo Wars 2, Alien Isolation).
After the shitshow that was DoW3 and CoH3, I don't think relic could make a decent RTS even if they had a gun to the back of their studio's head, which they practically do right now.
>>712433756Anon why do you think we get 2 patches per year nowadays?
The bigger studio is not working on warhammer anymore ever since hyenas and pharaoh flopped
>>712433962Its ending because its simply fucking old and CA is too big to survive on DLC sales of it alone unlike paradox
>shogun was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>medieval was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>rome was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>medieval 2 was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>empire was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>shogun 2 was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>rome 2 was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>warhammer 1 was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>three kingdoms was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>warhammer 2 was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>warhammer 3 was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights
>but they're gonna definitely make a game in the 40k universe with tanks, planes, space battles, where people DON'T fight in strict formations, where most fights happen with guns and lasers and ranged weaponry
I still remember the Join the -ACK! Threads and how basedfags were seething about Warhammer chads celebrating when Hyenas got shut down. Ahh good times.
>>712434124But they fight in strict formations in 40k, its not modern warfare thats what you secondary fucks dont get about it
>>712434120It's still currently CA's safety net. You don't put that away until you're sure the main act is stable and safe.
>>712434124Halo Wars 2 would be a more accurate gameplay synonym to how Total War40k would work.
>>712434124>Warhammer 2>Focused on melee battles LUHMAO
>>712433924I do like big Krox, even if they were kinda shit in WH2
>>712434124>implying empire was a game with strict formation battles focused on melee fights>ignores FoTS
>>712434124Spoken like someone who never played a Total War game.
>>712431502>>712429947Don't forget the Compendium mod that adds that whole Emissary questline. Fucking boner city.
>>712434081There'll probably be an End Times DLC with Neferata, Thanquol and the Glotkin
And Nagash
>>712434234Its
Already
Abandoned
How many times people have to point that out?
>Slav b-team with 10 employees>Patches every semester at best>2 dlc per year on a good yearThere is no "ooh but they cant do away with it"
Its already on life support, just because CA didnt make a post about it doesnt mean its any less true
If something new flop, they are dead
If they need to milk an old game for dime change dlc, they are dead
Also, there is not much extra content for them to milk that GW would allow to be put in the game
>>712434376>he doesn't fire a single volley and then charge
>>712433850https://youtu.be/7l_E4a3gqPQ
https://youtu.be/vmm0FGNJ_nI
>>712389137https://youtu.be/GW_DCp1ZpVM?si=4a42T1uiLeyjpbwm
>>712434124>>but they're gonna definitely make a game in the 40k universe with tanks,steam tanks
>planes,we already have flying units
>space battles,WH doesn't have naval battles so why would 40K?
>where people DON'T fight in strict formations,they do
>where most fights happen with guns and lasers and ranged weaponrySISTERS OF AVELORN!
>>712385149 (OP)If there was a version without hero units, sure.
>>712434471Every time people talk about a "End Times DLC" I'm just filled with dread and repulsion.
>>712434515That's it, time to start another chorf campaign
HASHUT HASHUT HASHUT
In all seriousness, we probably won't be getting Warhammer 40k Total War any time soon. We do know that CA is working on a unknown star wars strategy game, however.
>>712434668fuck off you bald pivoting troon. 40k makes more sense and has bigger whales
>>712434668>star warseven lamer than 40k
>space marines in a 5x10 block with bikers in the flank as cavalry with predators behind
>approaches a chaos space marine army, similarly built
>stop 100 feet from each other and blast each other with bolters until one side routs
yeah this shit would fit so well into TW lmao you niggers aren't serious
>>712431231>no blood ravensHomosexual and unreal.
>>712434478Dude just the fact that it's still getting DLC means it's not dead yet. A team, B team, irrelevant since there is someone actually still working on it, so it's still alive, the fact that it's still the Total War with the highest number of players, getting more stuff over the TW thats suppose to be the new main TW (pharoah) can attest to that.
I'll consider it dead when there's no further DLCs and the player count drops below Pharoah's all time peak.
>>712385149 (OP)make the dlcs cheaper you fuckers
I've still snapped a few weeks ago and bought 3
Cathay is fun, Kislev is eh
>>712434797>units with guns? Would never work in total war. Yeah that could never happen. Lol
>>712434797You have to understand that 90% of the people in these threads aren't even secondaries, they're tertiaries. Tertiaries to both Warhammer _and_ Total War. We must forgive them for their ignorance.
>>712434797You can do that already with an Empire army with a gunpowder heavy army.
>>712434797Fire whilst moving is already in the game.
>>712434990the point which you so adroitly dodged is that while line infantry peppering each other in 17th century france is on point, it's not how battles in the far future are fought
they're not gonna meet in some field and get into line formation and then shoot at each other like retards
>>712434797>space marines in a 12 unit loose formation>cover placed around the map, acts exactly like forests currently do in that when you shoot you have a tiny grace period where projectiles phase through obstacles>tactical marines take up positions in cover and fire at incoming units>assault marines attack enemy units in coverI don't even think TW40K is happening but to say it wouldn't work is silly
>>712435119Your point is moot because thats not how the game would work. You can already build mixed ranged and melee units in warhammer and it's great.
>>712434823Hey, retard, Pharaoh wasn't made by CAs core studio. It was made by Studio Sofia using Troy assets.
>>712435119That's how all 40k art portrays big battles as though.
>>712435142you can make it work, but to make it work it would no longer be a total war game, and if it's not a total war game, why beg CA of all studios to make it?
i think this guy
>>712433312 said it pretty well
>>712435119>they're not gonna meet in some field and get into line formation and then shoot at each other like retards That's not how empire or Napoleon worked but dont let your lack of tw experience stop you from shitposting.
>>712435119That's literally how 40k table top works. Cover is for the Weak.
>>712433463legend said 40k would be all hands on deck once all warhammer 3 dlc comes out
>>712433706After playing a campaign as Chaos Dwarfs, all other factions seem bland in comparison.
>>712435312it's 100% how it works
you can cope all you want
>>712402862if CA just licensed BFGA for space combat that'd be fine
The mental gymnastics some of you people make to justify the existence of a 40k Total War game never stops being funny. Year after year. Just go play Dawn of War, it'll be better than what you think CA could ever deliver.
>>712385149 (OP)this game is only fun in co-op campaigns
>>712434478>>712434823At this point I see CA Sofia as the superior team since they're doing some pretty gold things with 3 after the "main" team's horrendous handling of it.
>thread stopped hornyposting to shitfling 40k instead
>>712435995you got plenty of boards to masturbate
>dogshit mediocre "rts"
>kept alive and thriving by 40k autists
I'm definitely looking forward to the Norsca rework all things considered.
>>712435142>tactical marines take up positions in coverliterally black magic for CA's programmers
>>712435985Reminder that Total War: Troy (made by the BVLLgaryans) has functional weapon switching, while the """A""" team that originally made TWWH could not implement this arcane technology for black orcs
>>712435863There are literally 40k units in Warhammer 3 already
>>712430121>drown the paladin in skeletons while the prophetess gets ran down by the wight kingCannot lose.
>>712436403You got one chuckle out of me but no more.
>>712436306By "take positions in cover" I meant that there's a pile of rubble and mostly destroyed buildings somewhere in a strangely forest shaped layout and you move them into it, not that they actually take cover behind things
The mental gymnastics some of you people make to justify the non-existence of a 40k Total War game never stops being funny. Year after year. Just go play old historical total war, it'll be better than what you think CA could ever deliver.
>>712436643Those games sucked
>>712436618damn that sounds almost like... wait a minute... like dawn of war!
I like fighting Chaos Dwarves, they make for good enemies. I'd never play as them, they're gay and honorless.
>>712436520>He thinks Soulgrinders are from Fantasy
>tfw 3 will never have 2s campaign AI
>tfw 2 will never have 3s battles
>tfw no dlc will have units as cool as the thunderbarge again
>tfw no femboy friend to flirt with while discussing all this
why even go on
also post hours you have in the games
>2: 1539 hr
>3: 1861hr
>>712437453>Warhammer 1154 hours
>Warhammer 20 hours
>Warhammer 30 hours
It's a pretty bad Total War game but it's a great WHFB game so every time I get the itch it's either WHTW or Vermintide.
>The best Campaign and story total war ever got is a tutorial that interrupts you every 3 seconds
Bruh.
>>712436931I specifically mentioned that the way they would be implemented would be identical to forests in TWWH
>trees block units unless they have woodsmen, then they phase through, or they're large units, then they phase through but with a speed and melee attack penalty>trees block projectiles except for a short grace period after firing where they can phase through obstacles (except for artillery because MPfags were seething)>units can stand in the woods and shoot out of them just fine while being somewhat protected from ranged counterattacks>close ranged units don't have to worry about obstacles because of the grace periodSo, to translate to 40K
>move my marines into the rubble>they start firing at an enemy unit in a different pile of rubble>neither side is doing much damage>send in my scouts with shotguns to delete them because they will ignore the rubble at their rangeIf CA wanted to go above and beyond, they could make explosives delete cover, but I doubt they would
>Dawn of War 1/2 does all of this betterI know but when has that ever stopped a company from doing it anyway?
>>7124374532: 2300 hours
3: 3300 hours
TWW3 might be the game I have played the most ever, although it's hard to say for sure since it's difficult to tell just how much time I've spent on World of Warcraft over the years.
If it's 40k Toral War I hope Psykers are either a lot rarer or a bit weaker than Mages for the sake of Sieges.
I just want a WHFB RPG in the style of W3. Just a big expanse of the empire or world's edge or somewhere to explore and get into shenanigans. Maybe a choice between a dwarf, human, high elf or druchii.
Instead we get developers making gacha slop or shit like fucking Marathon
So how about we add a unit that:
>has a long range cannon attack
>a secondary handgunner attack that still works while the unit is in melee
>a ton of health
>unbreakable
>no fire weakness despite being made of WOOD
>and have the AI not even remotely hesitate to recruit 10+ of these in an army in late game
>>712435985Yeah, see since there actually is a team still working on the game I personally think it still has a few years worth of life left.
>>712440206A few years is like 2 more DLCs at this rate
>>712439016There's something that gives big studios the ick about Warhammer. Gayfaggots Workshop is fairly hands off and plays loose with the loicense and at least 40k is a proven seller as long as the game is at least a 6/10 but it's only small and mid sized studios that touch it usually.
>>712385149 (OP)I want to but I fear my CPU doesnโt like the game
Is WH3 actually good now or should I just stick with 2?
>>712439464sister, your tabletop caps?????
>New blog post
>Special TW anniversary program planned for December
>Specially said they will have news regarding new games that will make both historical and fantasy fans excited
>separate paragraph confirms they still plan to have support for TWW3 after Tides of Torment.
Well that's something.
>>712442147Dogs of War please
>>712385149 (OP)But it's absolute garbage.
>>712442147https://news.totalwar.com/total-war-25-years
>>712430024Wait he was the only faction I ever played as for the brief time I played the game, are you telling me other leaders DON'T do this?
>>712433463I want TW AoS, 40k has enough good games, smigmar has 1
>>712433706Their expanded roster mod is crucial
>>712442658Getting stuck in blobs? No, that's normal.
Dying in said blobs? Depends on the lord, but N'kari's pitiful armor means he dies super quick if you don't babysit him constantly. On the other side of the spectrum, vlad is like, immortal.
Kroq-gar or Nakai for my next lizardmen campaign?
>>712446462Nakai if you have SFO mod, he's basically Chaos for the Order Tide
>>712446543>if you have SFO modI don't.
>>712426989reminder CA has basically entire 8th ed army books worth of rules for every faction
and that the entire chorf language has translations in some retard's desk too
i wanna speak dark khazalid dammit
>>712447370no lore for you, go buy age of sigmar miniatures