Thread 712388531

RATATAN!

>>712388531 (OP)
Shitters complain about the lack of tells
Literally every attack is Guardable as the tell comes out at the latest the first beat.

Best element?

>>712389840
i got beamed by the crab boss because i forgot his beam shot took a turn to charge so i jumped too early

Will the demo progress save for the release?

I beated the game

I like the character designs

>>712388531 (OP)
The demo was the most I've been disappointed with a game since Spore

>>712388531 (OP)
YA-HO-YA-HO-YA-HOI-HOI

>>712388531 (OP)
RATA-RATA-RATATA

>>712390902
RA-TA-RA-TA-RA-TA-TON

>>712390048
You can still dodge if you jump again next turn. I make that mistake every single time.

Is there any gameplay difference to advanced controls beyond making it more fun?

>>712390896
sucks you didn't like it.

>>712390896
Come on it's not THAT bad.

>Finally found not one but two?! people online
>match crashes
t-thanks i guess

>>712388531 (OP)
the gameplay feels very rough
I hope they improve it but doesn't give a good impression

y the V tho?

The Bull seems a little imba, tells are not as obvious as the crab

>find the cowboy in the wasteland
>Fight takes 15 minutes because he keeps jumping around and have non-telegraphed attacks.
10/10

>>712398782
you yeed you last haw

Rat

What the fuck is this performance.

As someone not subjected to the sunken cost fallacy
It's pretty good

>>712390798
cute!

Yeah, think I'll just be getting Patapon 1+2 next month

Hey Pata/v/ros, beat the demo and I’ve got mixed feelings. Did they indicate how close to “done” this was? My thoughts below:

Good
> voices/music not as annoying as teaser trailer, actually kinda dig the parade vibe
> you can set the game to use Patapon style beats which allow for desyncing, basically mandatory to have a good time for anyone who’s played the original
> it’s basically Patapon with a controllable hero which is neat; I think there’s a potential lot of frantic energy to be had with keeping the beat and moving your Ratatan around hazards

Mixed
> Visual design/polish lacking a bit, especially with base upgrades
> Roguelike elements poorly explained and swingy; without power leveling your time through the first world can be a breeze or a slog depending on Ratakaruka
> 9 Cobun max seems low
> Weird your Ratatan doesn’t attack/so much beyond a passive buff; would be nice if it did something per song so it’s not just a moveable liability
> 3 beats and all same button is weird; but since playing locks you in place probably necessary
> same world progression will be boring; hope the main game has routes/different options
> no eugenics?
> lack of explanation of commands/mechanics/story (prob just demo things)

Bad
> input lag; this game needs a buffer setting on release
> genuine nightmare to hit flying and digging enemies depending on loadout
> both world bosses have poorly telegraphed attacks that can be 100% unavoidable; this is worse than the big lava dudes in Patapon 3 dungeons
> not that it matters because Cobun respawn forever (but at 50% HP???) and there’s no penalty to having 0 Cobun like a game over timer.
> since Cobun respawn, healing items are irrelevant. Likewise, at 9 Cobun the chorus item is useless
> no minigames (?)

There’s other small QOL stuff but that’s the big things after playing today. So far like a 6/10, hope the main game is a bit more along than this.

just beat the demo on classic+advanced.boss wasnt that hard after i could reliably jump and shield.now i am enjoying demo+ content

>>712389925
every element has his perks but water is my favorite element because of the splash damage+possibility of the droplet card
fire if you want absolute carnage
ice for freezing aura that works like a charm on bosses
wind for crit
poison is reliable but i found that is the weaker element here
>>712408757
>9 Cobun max seems low
9 cobuns isnt the max play the game more
>Weird your Ratatan doesn’t attack/so much beyond a passive buff;
probably it will be fixed later on but for now pick water+ice until you find the droplet card and freezing aura if you want to be more active
>3 beats
because you are playing baby mode choose advanced commands so you can enjoy harder combos with more beats
>input lag
not sure about this one but once i bought the melodium mod i got an easier time hitting the notes dunno if is true tho or i am huffing copium

>>712407623
Honestly not a bad idea, Patapon 1+2 still slap to this day. Ratatan has potential but right now it’s more like a weird tech demo with rhythm than a full meal. Less “PATA-PATA-PATA-PON!” and more “please hit triangle at the right time or lose half your Cobun to a mole.” Might be worth revisiting post-launch if they buff the telegraphs and actually explain what the hell a “beat spiral reversal” is. Until then, stay comfy in the Pataverse.

was the logo really so hard to read that it needed a subtitle? it bothers me more than it should.

>>712413845
No, but at first I read it as Patatan

>>712415285
burgha

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post porn

>>712419306
what porn?

remember to leave feedback somewhere devs might see it

>>712389840
>Shitters complain about the lack of tells
barely played the demo so I can't say much but the first boss (the dino) seemed like it was just random attacks in the middle of your beat

>>712388531 (OP)
>>712390048
>>712421792
Why is this creature so...
>>712390798
I'm glad you're still hanging around here, always liked your art

It occurs to me they have done the contrary to what they did qith Patapon.
Patapon is stilistically very simplistic because it was in the PSP and the bidget was tight; Ratatan on the other hand is stupidly over the top wich makes the gameplay harder.

>>712389840
>guard
>still die because you're meant to jump that specific attack
nice cope
they're changing the game according to our feedback and there's nothing you can do about it, bitch

>>712413845
Yes. The logo unironically looks like it almost says "Patapon".

>>712389840
Yeah, now they patched everything to be properly guardable except if you're using hustle techs which you should be using only when you know it's safe anyway. At first many attacks came out of nowhere and you had to learn the pattern of the monster itself down to every beat to know what to do.

>>712421792
add sex with the creatures

>>712424749
The two one-shot attacks do have very clear tells, the crab will charge for two entire turns and wagoon does the shout with reddish visual effects.

i want this cutie

>>712426801
technically they arent even one shot attacks because they do a fixed amount of damage and if have barrier or a lot of health you can survive 2 of those attacks in a row

>>712427089
you want to fuck a fungus?

what's the point of advanced controls?

are the Patapon remasters on PS4/5 still shitfests filled with input lag? trying to decide if I should buy those or emulate

>>712413845
yes, i couldn't read it and only found out the real name because steam had a catalog for all the games announced.

>>712427296
de-javu

>cobuns shout "MURDER!" as they rush into battle
Bloodthirsty little buggers! Go get em!

Why do all the characters in this game have emo hair?

>>712388531 (OP)
Why is the music so fucking adorable

>>712427613
Well, they come back as long as you remain alive, they don't fear death as much as you do.

Disa Disa point ment!

rata

Rata

RATA

YAHOI HOI

tried this and its pretty entertaining never played patapon, those games are better than this?

>>712428183
Patapon effect. You immediately think the chanting is gonna get annoying but all the songs are so earnest and mesh with the gameplay so its hard not to get drawn into them. (they could probably tone down the chanting in the hub a little I like it better when it gets a little muted in the shop menus)

bnnuy

>>712436795
Yeah, so much so that if you play them you'll understand a lot of things people criticize in ratatan were implemented way better in patapon.

The first is an amazing little game, imo it has the best direction and general consistency of the three.
The second is like the first but with more levels, one hero unit and the story becomes more grandiose, sacrificing some of the feel of the first.
The third is divisive (even though i liked it) as the story becomes more jrpg-y and you control only 3 units and a uberhero. The real flaw of this one is that it's balanced around multiplayer so if you play solo you need to grind a lot(!!) before being able to do some levels.

>>712388531 (OP)
QUICKLY WE GOT TO GET TO THE FACTORY! IT'S XANA

>>712436795
Maybe some improvements get ironed in later on, but for the moment yeah. The mission structure of the Patapons makes for better progression imo

>>712442819
The unending void scares me

Are we getting Dark Heros?

>>712389840
>as the tell comes out at the latest the first beat.
You understand that that means you have to recognize and react what is going on within a quarter of a second and also know what exact song you want to pivot to, right? You also might be locked into a specific song that cannot pivot to the jump or block so you need to wait the entire score before you get to reorient to a different song. Squiddly Pete is the definition of why this is an issue because he can go from attacking you to an instant charged tentacle and if your actions were on different timings that allows him to get the tentacle out before you can actually get to the second note of the new score.

I'm so fucking glad this is a furfag game because I'm a huge furfag now

post LEWDS

>>712436795
The gameplay in the originals feels wayy tighter in that it feels like you're taking turns with the bosses, if you mess up after knowing the tells its always gonna be on you. Overall its a bit slower and more deliberate and quite a bit harder at times (theres a few missions in each game that are nightmarish on the first clear)

Managing your troops also feels a bit more meaningful since if they die on missions they're gone till the end (sometimes permanently if their cap gets eaten) plus upgrading them feels more meaningful but I'm guessing tweaking your cobuns will feel a lot better in the full game.

>>712448674
>furry
sorry but you are a tdm chad now

>>712448820
I accept it

>>712449391
Naked tummy

drawan

>>712430189
I presume those are just reinforcements, meaning they do die, new ones just replace them

>>712446737
Yeah, they reached that milestone so we can expect dark ratatans.
I don't have the pick but IIRC, there'll be one for each regular RTTN
>bunny: turtle
>pig: boar
>cat: dog
>owl: bat
>mushroom: bamboo shoot
>frog: chameleon (should've been a scorpion I feel but whatever)
can't recall the pairs for the prickly Guy or the duck though

>>712453415
Panda and Squirrel
Stolen from r*ddit
Haragittan is a Hedgehog iirc

>>712454235
Okay. Thought he was a skunk at first.

>>712452235
drawan-drawan-draw-ta-tan

>>712408757
> you can set the game to use Patapon style beats which allow for desyncing, basically mandatory to have a good time for anyone who’s played the original
Huh? You mean the advanced controls? I thought they were the same as default, just 4 beats instead of 3. Honestly wish there was an option to ditch the measure and just make it work like in the original games, with interrupts and shit.
>input lag; this game needs a buffer setting on release
You can calibrate the game on the title screen in the settings, if i got you right
> Weird your Ratatan doesn’t attack/so much beyond a passive buff; would be nice if it did something per song so it’s not just a moveable liability
Funnily enough that was shown in the concept art and we know that they should have special skills, like Keroronpa calling an airstrike, i think. Probably demo things again.

TAN TAKA TAN!

>>712448674
full pic?

yah hoi

>>712459248
yah hoi hoi!

>>712457170
>I thought they were the same as default, just 4 beats instead of 3
Some commands will use the full measure, but some will also need more than one chant.

reminder to upgrade your weapons and crafting legendary weapons

>>712409564

Damn I literally didn’t even notice the advanced setting, thanks anon. For the content related stuff I just cleared the demo and left it there; peaking back I see you can also unlock more unit types per hero THANK KAMIPON

>>712457170

There is - go to settings and change the input mode to “classic” and it’ll be the original Patapon flashing border with free input and not the dondonpachi style meter with input bar. Absolute game changer.

I’ll check the title screen setting for an input delay option; must have missed it, thanks!

>>712436795

Hard to say because this is must a demo (copefag etc.) but if the idea of commanding a legion of murderous cute jimbos with sone relatively in-depth customization through the power of rhythm is appealing then get off /v/ and play Patapon ASAP.

Pretty sure 1+2 are getting a remaster, honestly that’s the way to go anyways as 3 needs multiplayer and is the weakest in the trilogy. None are roguelikes either so you’ll get a genuine story with map/world progression and a fair amount of content.

>>712454235
Sexo with all, except the dog

>>712463582
you are welcome.i love this game and Pyokorappa is very cute
https://files.catbox.moe/dq78zh.png

>>712463582
>it’ll be the original Patapon flashing border with free input and not the dondonpachi style meter with input bar.
I could swear that just changed the bar for a border and kept the measures the same.
Did they change it with the update?

>>712465105

Maybe; you may very well also be right and it also could have been completely placebo on my part! Disregard if so.

>>712390798
I hate it. I only like the way you control characters.