why the FUCK is there a large subsection of players that are militantly against this?
so far the reasons have been

>"but what about enlisted"
as if gaijins corporate profits are something they should be concerned about
>"i dont want infantry players ruining the game"
as they wait in line for the new russian downtiered dipshit clone slop
>"war thunder is a vehicle game"
even though theyve always said "war thunder is an plane/tank/x game", as if war thunder is going to remove vehicles and become an FPS shooter
>"gaijin should focus on balancing first"
as if pitting a light tank and a maus against eachother in a 16x16 field with NO INFANTRY SUPPORT yet with REAL LIFE ARMOR VALUES isnt why the game needs so much balancing
>"i dont want fps players to be cracked against vehicles"
even though their favorite two words are "skill issue"
>etc etc, selfish reasons that dont make any actual sense


i genuinely dont understand, did these people not install war thunder over the "war" aspect? are they just autistic virtual vehicle collectors?
i lik war thunder, i play it because i like war and military, but to these people, playing the same gamemode over and over and over and over again is somehow fun to them?
why do these people immediately assume the outcome of adding infantry will be ruining the game? why are they so against actually improving their game thats been the same since 2014?
it seems that most of these vehicle warfare type games are full of egotistical, hostile autists that can clearly be taken advantage of by a company

>>712438980 (OP)

>>712438980 (OP)
I don't want gaychin to take away focus from vehicles in a vehicle game. Not to mention this would add another grind-fest tech tree to the game which you will be FORCE to grind if you want to complete the battleASS
>b-but they won't
LOL!
>are they just autistic virtual vehicle collectors?
Yes, I don't give a fuck about guns and drones and shit, this is a gacha game with vehicles
also
>*gets ACK'd by FAB-3000UMPK*

>>712438980 (OP)
i literally started playing war thunder because of the infantry trailer
if they don't release it i am going to be pissed

>>712438980 (OP)
>>712439996
>playing the same gamemode over and over and over and over again
Also, why do you assume that it will be different with infantry? They clearly don't care about making the game better, they just want to rake in as much cash as they can
>da, da, the capture the point is perfect infantry game mode, why change it pido- I mean dear player?)))))))))))))))))

>>712438980 (OP)
autismos HATE change

>>712438980 (OP)
>why do these people immediately assume the outcome of adding infantry will be ruining the game?

All changes are changes for the worse until proven otherwise. Change of any kind is inherently evil and wrong unless massive benefit comes out of it.

>>712440421
see >>712440439
autismos hate change for no reason, even if its good, they hate it
pure mental illness

>>712440496
every change they try to introduce is dogshit

>>712440214
>IM GONNA DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>712440496

No, it's logic.
Change is INHERENTLY bad. It is DEFINED as inherently bad. Change is chaos, uncertainty, weakness, sickness, death. Stability is good, reliable, honest, true.

In order for any change to anything at all to be justified (not just in games, but in everything) the benefits will need to outweigh the drawbacks 100-fold.

>>712440549
every post you make is dogshit

>>712439996
good, i dont give a fuck about the grind as long as it isnt the exact same fucking gamemode over and over again. grinds can be fun you autistic fuck
>gacha low iq pedo nigger
as expected

>>712440690
>>712440834
>it isnt the exact same fucking gamemode over and over again
Do you even play the game?
When was the last time Gaijin introduced a new game mode that actually stayed?
Yeah...

>>712438980 (OP)
I've never played Warthunder, do tanks, planes, and warships all play in the same matches or are they separate game modes? I don't really see a reason to be against infantry if they're separated, and most of the groundwork is probably done by Enlisted's devs so it shouldn't need to take many developers from the other parts of the game. It wouldn't need to step on Enlisted's toes if it targets different game modes and eras, and the April 1st trailer was already modern while Enlisted is WW2.

>>712440959
its separated in twos
tanks/planes
ships/planes
and then solos of all

>complaining about infantry
>in a game where listening to enemy engines is normal
all the light tank players can eat shit and eat anti-tank rifle rounds like they should.

>>712440949
>make the gameplay be that of moving heavy slow cardboard boxes with big guns to shoot other slow cardboard boxes
>surprised it has barely any gamemode compatibility
only air is the exception in this case, no reason why their should be little gamemodes for it. if they are to add more interesting gamemodes they must change the whole way servers and gamemodes are organized however, and i think theres no way infantry; especially playable infantry; can be added WITHOUT changing that as well as leveling a bunch of other parts of the game to accomomdate it.

>>712440959
The vehicles fight in different gamemodes except for tanks which have no other option then to fight alongside planes in their gamemode. Half of the game also consists of ww2 and would overlap with enlisted.

>>712442140
WW2 part of WT sucks as of now, and tank was ruined by shitty balance and bias.
Modern Warfare is better

>>712439996
>I don't want gaychin to take away focus from vehicles in a vehicle game
Literally the whole point of "vehicles" in a war scenario is to work together with infantry. The idea of WWII being fought with "vehicles only" is a fucking fever-dream fantasy completely divorced from reality.

>>712438980 (OP)
>a game focused on vehicle combat
>adds infantry to it even though there's plenty of games focused on infantry combat
i don't play war thunder but i can understand some people being mad

>>712443267
>realistic [...] combat game
>vehicles operating without infantry support
lol
lmao

>>712438980 (OP)
Warthunder was always eventually going to get infantry, just like it got tanks and boats back when it was just a silly little plane game. The developers said so themselves when it all began.

>>712438980 (OP)
>peepee slapped so hard in /wtg/ he had to cry to /v/ about it

>>712438980 (OP)
they're adding infantry? in what capacity? full combined warfare? because good, I want that tranny-infested shithole Foxhole getting some competition.

>>712438980 (OP)
>>712439008
I don't mind infantry but i'm struggling to think how it will play out, like for example, what the fuck is a player controlling a soldier supposed to do against my Tiger for example? I can literally just magdump him a full MG34 belt from my remote controller roof MG.

Yeah man i really trust fucking gaijin with their AMAZING servers to be able to pull this off, i can't wait to die 5 seconds after i cross a corner

>>712443071
>adds infantry to it even though there's plenty of games focused on infantry combat
this argument is illogical if the infantry is AI
even then, its laughable for people to think that they will be removing vehicle-specific gamemodes
when you actually play the game, unlike what is advertised, it feels more like youre in a racing game than driving and commanding an actual vehicle of war; the whole game is oriented on vehicle-vehicle combat rather than say mowing down infantry and needing to support your allies in a WAR. your vehicle is at least 3x the size of a car yet cars feel like miniature props rather than actual to-scale cars you crush, rocks and objects are scaled way up to what would appear in real life. the game feels more like cs;go with tanks than a "war game". adding infantry as AI would not even make it any less of a vehicle game.
just because "most games are focused on infantry combat dur" doesnt mean war thunder couldnt benefit even more greatly than the others WITH infantry.
infantry will make the game feel more alive and bring teamwork into a teamworkless game, yet people are seething over the mere prospect of infantry, AI or not, more than anything else. remember these people are content with playing the same gamemode over and over again in a soul-crushing grind and spending 80 dollars for literal shit. there is a subsection of the community that will also defend the company at any costs, unlike the majority of people being against the company.
>>712443267
cope rope

>>712443267
It's been over a decade and the zero still doesn't compress at high speeds

>>712443267
PLANE game

>>712444495
forgot to add, that theres little purpose of collecting and infatuating over these hyperrealistic virtual movable war machines if you dont even gonna use them for the proper situations they were designed for, thats just plain low functioning autism and its what most of the war thunder community unfortunately has.

>>712442775
You litteraly can't play modern vehicles without playing ww2 vehicles unless you pay.

>>712445242
exactly and people hates the WW2 ground and air part now

>>712444495
You're right but this is all just wishful think, how do you implement infantry in the core game of Warthunder? What does infantry even do? Let's say you have your standard 16vs16 match, in order for the infantry to be meaningful in any way you'd need at least 5 players for every tank, and that's the bare minimum.

>>712438980 (OP)
if they're gonna make it like in enlisted where one player controls a squad of ai retards it's gonna be dogshit because the ai is fucking braindead

>>712445823
I haven't played above 7.7 in years, WWII is the peak of this game, only zoomers play top tier slop

>>712446204
Its actually the reverse now

>>712444495
>the game feels more like cs;go with tanks than a "war game"
Because it's not a "war game", it's a military vehicle game

>>712446204
Modern is better than WW2 now
the later is now a shitshow, and realistic battles ruined ww2 while in Modern is better due to the stuff you get

i haven't played in 4 years can someone tell me what /wtg/ thinks, thanks. also shoutout to 2fast

>>712443267
>>712446476
I heard a rumor that they're developing a standalone game rather than a game mode for war thunder

>>712445849
nothing is impossible when it comes to games, if that type of question is hard for you then youre just bad at game design.

>712446476
>Because it's not a "war game",

>>712447080
Yes, it's not a "war game" in a sense that retard implies it's a "war game" because "duh it's called WAR thunder"
It's a vehicle combat game, not an all out war with infantry and shit, if it was, we would already have AWACS and tankers
also
>frognigger
makes sense

>>712438980 (OP)
>i genuinely dont understand, did these people not install war thunder over the "war" aspect? are they just autistic virtual vehicle collectors?
Yes
Personally I don't mind infantry but it's going to fuck the game balance with a rake, and they probably won't have any consideration to historical weaponry so it will ruin the WW2 what-if battles feel some tiers at least still retain

>>712446275
>>712446596
>modern is better
I guess it is if you enjoy being killed by KH-38MTs launched from stratosphere by an SU-25, or maybe the ARB matches with Fox 3 missiles, or perhaps you just enjoy shooting Leopards 2 with your own Leopard 2 in hilariously small maps.
The game is only good up to 9.0 for planes and 7.7 for tanks, anything beyond is just meh at best and awful at worst.

>>712446960
Yeah but i'm talking about the scale, you'd need like 200 players on each lobby

This game's community got significantly shittier with the first "le epic secret file leaks" incident and I don't know why

>>712438980 (OP)
Gaijin already has a infantry based game and it's ass. They will never add it into warthunder.

>>712447534
anon?

>>712438980 (OP)

i genuinely dont understand, did these people not install war thunder over the "war" aspect? are they just autistic virtual vehicle collectors?
Yes actually I played it because it’s like Girls und Panzer and World of Tanks not to simulate a real war.

>>712448068
the latter is what 99% of people who ever installed this game wanted lol. grindcvcks remain cvcks as always

>>712447534
uhhhh anon have you been living under a rock?

>>712448243
>>712447834
It was an aprils fool joke. It's not seriously happening.

>>712448068
I don't think anyone installed Warthunder for the "War" aspect, personally i installed it because i could shoot shermans with a Tiger 1 (my beloved.....), that's all there was to it, now i enjoy most tanks in the game, but that wasn't the hook for me at all.

>>712448193
>grindcvcks remain cvcks as always
>grind with guns
>Wow!!! so Epic!!!
>grind with tanks
>haha loser cuck

>>712448338
anon?????
>>712448476
i genuinely started playing because of the infantry trailer

>>712448657
Play Enlisted. That's exactly the same kind of garbage it'll be.

>>712448476
war thunder literally portrays itself as a badass war simulator, they cant possibly be orientating themselves to the autist market when they make those ads. most of their money comes from people who want to skip the boring grind to top tier. the people who stay and grind and the hyperautist loyalists i guarantee it

>>712448476
The Tiger 1 in this game is funny
>be even slightly angled towards your enemy
>rape him
>face him head on
>fucking die in 1 hit from a glacis penetration

>>712448745
nah it looks much better

>games fine
>244 fps
>alt tab
>tab back in
>3 fps and 0% gpu usage
wtf send help this keeps happening tonight
only thing that fixes it is restarting the game

It's going to be so fucking funny seeing infantrycucks getting absolutely dominated by airplanes just like we did with tankcucks. Not even going to be a competition lmao.

>>712448879
Yeah, that's because angling gives you like 40mm extra effective armor or some ridiculous number, you can always just go hull down and ignore angling entirely though.

>>712449293
But then there are tanks where angling does nothing
Like the Churchill with the massive weak point in the glacis but another on the side that gets exposed if you angle

>>712449293
Honestly the 17pdrs and the ARL 44 fucking suck because le APHE meta and solid shot is all peashooters
But my k/d with both skyrocketed with the Tiger pack

>>712448745
and it would still better than the current slavery gamemode we have now. my MAIN problems with enlisted was that the movement was outdated shit ripped from cuisine royale (somehow no one cares), the lobby size was only 20 PLAYERS, and those two things combined made it feel unimmersive. war thunder's new extraction shooter gameplay showed that they have progressed since then, and the gameplay on the april fools trailer shows gunplay nowhere near like enlisted. i am excited, they can make a infantry-centered gamemode but with war thunder vehicles, or a enlisted-esque gamemode, either way im excited theyre adding something new.

I remember when they were never ever going to go past the Korean war

I remember when it was literally impossible to have faster than sound jets because the engine couldn't support it

>>712449521
In most tanks angling does nothing besides exposing your weak side armor and weakspots.

>>712450110
>I remember when it was literally impossible to have faster than sound jets because the engine couldn't support it
This is still true, though. If you try dogfighting above Mach-1, server desync will place enemy hitboxes in weird places. You can see this in replays, where you score hits when shooting nowhere near the enemy and you get misses despite the projectiles visibly going through the enemy plane model.

>>712443470
cope, i will always shit on FOMO, grindcels, and the gatekeepers until my https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USz2OR3wdB4

>>712450724
based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peTCePu1jMs
war thunder should do a sabaton crossover

Damn it, the OP title made me think it was another military secrets leak
*leaves thread*

>>712450114
Wouldn't say most but maybe 50-50

A large (read, people who somehow managed to survive in spite of their drooling retardation) were against the tank changes to RB. These people can't even be bothered to flick a camera around in their surroundings.
One thing I will say in their defence is that none of the maps are built around it. Doubly so since the maps have gradually devolved into forcing brawler fights. You used to have the entire normandy map, or even that older desert map, tunisia or some shit.
You play on a smaller section of it all now.

>>712450110
Take me back to the days of the CL-13 meta