>tell myself I will play it this time
>find a guild
>they force me to come to meetings
>they put me on trial to see how well I do
>they make me come to raids else I'll lose my spot
is this shit like a job?

i guess it takes some effort if you want to be part of something? you could look at it as a job, but in many communities that's just bare minimum you can do, like participate in things and do something

>>712474253 (OP)
as someone who came from xiv yeah wow players are super fucking autistic and weird about guilds. instead of it just being a glorified group chat they actually expect you to show up to raid and shit or whatever which is funny cause wow raiding is a complete joke

>>712474253 (OP)
Massive redpill...

Millions of videogame and porn addicts will defend these soul destroying activities to the death

At some point a real human bean will outgrow these things

And you can never enjoy them again without knowing they destroy your mind and body

Inb4 cry cope seethe

Nobody does that anymore, OP. Stop making shit up for (You)s.

>>712474253 (OP)
>WoW retail
>join a random listed Heroic Raid with discord link in sign up
>kill some bosses
>leader announces that everyone is welcome to come back next week
>have joined the raid 4 weeks in a row
>not even in guild

>>712474253 (OP)
you missed the boat boomer, classic 2019 was something special and there were plenty of dad guilds around til mid-Ulduar but by ICC they all dried up and they aren't rolling fresh, no way, no how

>>712474916
I'm in a dad guild, we clear ZG in 2 hours while half the raid is drunk, they just seem like a bunch of alcoholics.

>>712474603
have you ever raided in wow if you don't have all your ps and qs it becomes a clusterfuck just one missing link can fuck up an entire lockout cause everyone will leave and all this bullshit

>>712474253 (OP)
>is this shit like a job?
nah you just joined a guild that treats the game like a job.
find a chill one that just hangs out and does random shit.
anyone that cries about MMOs being a 2nd job are retards that willingly put themselves in that position.

Mists of Pandaria is unironically one of the best expansions. If I was younger I’d be excited for MoP Classic.

>>712477121
If a guild cant run something with their 4-5 core members and carry another 10 ungeared retards then thats on them.

>>712477121
Lmao classic WoW is braindead and doesnt require any of that shit. Just don't bring thirdies and mouth breathers.

which server to play us east casually, not interested in tryhard guilds.

>>712474253 (OP)
That's just a bad guild, join a more casual guild instead.

how do you find a guild?

>>712474253 (OP)
>want to join a productive community
>they expect me to contribute
>complain on /v/
sounds about right

>>712480853
>productive

>>712481179
if you didn't think they were productive you wouldn't be trying to join them. so, it's actually you who is calling them productive, not me.

>>712474253 (OP)
>Game becomes hard
>Have to filter out retards
Why do you think idiots love their vanilla raids where the mechanics of the fight are that the boss auto attacks the tanks. Because they get sat because they're the dead weight.

>>712474253 (OP)
last time i joined a guild some gay drama happened just a few days later and everybody left

>>712474253 (OP)
>they make me come to raids else I'll lose my spot
>is this shit like a job?
I've never raided outside of fucking around in lfr in wow, but I think I can safely say that everyone hates raiding with flaky fucktards like you. It's always somehow that a bunch of grown ass men and women with jobs and lives and shit can manage to show up at the promised time each week, but this one unemployed retard will keep not showing up with the lamest excuses and get offended that constantly wasting everyone's fucking time has not endeared himself to anyone. If you don't wanna show up each week don't sign up for a thing where the only thing you gotta do is show up each week.

>>712481313
I'm not OP.
This is a video game we're talking about here. PvE in a video game isn't productive; it's recreational. It's a game.
There's nothing wrong with that, to be clear, but I think it's a bit delusional to call raiding in World of Warcraft productive.

>>712481769
anon, there are productive chess strategies, and there are unproductive ones.
you may be autistic. get yourself checked out.

>>712474253 (OP)
>is this shit like a job?
after years of hanging around wow players. i finally understand something. wow players unironically like games that expect you to treat it like a job and they love competing against each other. this is why things like World Firsts and Mythic+ have such a huge engagement. its also why they don't really leave world of warcraft, they just take "breaks" from it.

this is why the game has such a large assortment of Logs but only a mere fraction of that number actively plays the game as most players are not playing the latest content, instead they are playing through the expansion before that and the achievement records prove that.

so yes, don't bother trying to be like WoW as they are slowly losing players. what game companies should do is just focus on making their own playerbase happy because the happier they are, the more money they will spend on the game.
>>712474603
>xiv
that development team use wow as a the test bed for new and/or expanded features. this is why it seems xiv copies from wow but doesn't. so basically you'll see housing getting improved upon after wow's version releases.

>>712481808
I don't think I have anything to worry about there.

>>712481948
deflecting from the fact that you are a retard and your post was retarded.

>>712481672
No shit it's grown men with no sense of any level of conflict resolution wondering why they're being asked if they're going to show up to the 20+ person event they signed up for and getting upset about it.
ADHD riddled retards who can't hold a job struggle to pay attention or commit to anything for more than a week more news at 11.

>>712482049
Not really. I can't say I feel very stupid for not inferring that you meant productive in the connotation that you insist you did from your brief greentext.

>>712474253 (OP)
Classic is so fucking easy you can clear a raid in full grey gear yet retards minmax it every single fucking time like it's the most serious and difficult MMORPG ever.

I just don't want to be in a guild with fags, women, and guild drama. That ship sailed a long time ago. Haven't raided in like 18 years or something.

>>712483489
because people crave to be elitist and its very, very easy to be elitist in mmos

Play a different game dipshits.