So you fight the good fight to fight the fight of the fight?

"I fight the Good Fight with my voice on Galaxy News Radio"
>[Intelligence] So you fight the Good Fight with your voice on Galaxy News Radio.
I'm bewildered that Bethesda ever got recognition for any of this shitslop writing.

>[SPEECH 100] but if west then east?!?!?!

So you Jimmy the Jimmy to Frank the Frank and Superman?

>>712501856
That’s not what he said, unlike with 3 he literally says this >>712501852

>>712501852
It's like all of Bethesda fallout was written by this guy

>>712501852
>got recognition for writing
Name one time this ever happened.

>nukes megaton
>enslaves a bunch of people
>enslaves a child
>poisons the water supply
>devours a baby
>nukes the citadel

>>712501856
>>712501939
he is mocking the ending of New Vegas where you can tell Lanius that if the Legion wins they might get stretched out and fucked the same way the NCR did

what I found more stupid about that is that the last general that failed at taking Vegas was thrown down a canyon after being lit on fire, I don't think Lanius would like to be the Burned Man 2

>>712502234
> he is mocking the ending of New Vegas where you can tell Lanius that if the Legion wins they might get stretched out and fucked the same way the NCR did
Why is that something to mock? That’s a very real possibility.
>I don't think Lanius would like to be the Burned Man 2
Well given that Caesar is dead/dying he wouldn’t be.

>>712501754 (OP)
Very intelligent of you to say.

>>712501754 (OP)
>>712501939
>>712502401
no

>>712502039
>Name one time this ever happened
People constantly talk about how much they love Bethesda's worldbuilding and it gets conflated with their writing a lot of the time

>>712501754 (OP)
>>712501852
>>712501939
Bravo Obsidian

fallout 3 is one of the worst games I ever finished

>>712501754 (OP)

>>712502592
>lists a second thing bethesdas fallout games has been heavily criticized for
Do you live in an alternate opposite day universe or something?

>>712502730
this one was funny come on

>>712502730
>>712502760

>>712502707
Just because something is heavily criticized by /v/tards doesn't mean people don't constantly praise it everywhere else. It usually means the opposite

>>712503060
>doesn't mean they don't do the thing I refuse to provide any real world examples of happening
>only /v/ criticized these things
Are the writing & world building enjoyers in the room with us now?

>>712503254
I'm not digging through YouTube videos to send you examples because you're too fucking stupid to find them for yourself, watch any lore video retard it's very easy.

>>712503254
>heavily criticized by /v/tards
>"only /v/ criticized these things"
>Bethesda's worldbuilding gets conflated with their writing
>"writing & world building enjoyers"

>I fight by talking into a microphone
>I also keep tabs (via spies, of course -- I don't actually go out to do it myself) on your activities and broadcast your every move for the world to hear
>no, I don't do anything else
>why yes, I'm very comfortable in my safe concrete bunker surrounded by heavily armed troops
>no, you can't stay here, I have no useful supplies for you, no useful information for you
>no, I can't heal you, cure radiation poisoning, remove addictions or fix your limbs
>no, I won't trade with you
>no, I won't come with you to *actually* fight anybody
>Surely the Good Guys(tm) will win now!
I fucking hate this lazy nigger like you wouldn't believe.

>>712502547
Haters rekt

>>712503398
>makes claim with no evidence
>tells people who are critical they are too stupid to find evidence to support for his own arguement
Gee wiz you surely put egg on that guys face when he asked for source and didn't make yourself look really fucking retarded along the way. You'd think someone so confident about their presupposed position they would have something to point to other than vague ideals of "other communities". Just admit it you made a strawman got called put on it and have zero response.

>>712502675
>ghoul: "The rule of the wasteland is property's yours if you kill for it"
>ghoul's karma: good
>killing him: bad karma
Funny how the people who cry bigot are the ones best defined by said word.

>>712503398
>lore
So now you're retroactively claiming the lore bethesda copied from the first two games is shit.
First it was the writing, then it was the world building & now the lore.
Before it was opposite day shit but now its things they recycled, I wonder what the next whataboutism bingo topic will be.

>>712501754 (OP)
I always kill him.

>>712502547
>>712502621
>need to lie to a paranoid guy
>need to convince an idiot
Again you seem to think out of context screencaps will prove something?

>>712504181
When did I say literally any of this man

>>712504451
Why is context being allowed for one game but not the other?

>>712503750
>people in general criticized
>mentions /v/ being critical in response
>brings up world building after mentioning writing
>gets upset that you quoted his words
Is every new post in our conversation a new separate entity that discards the context of the previous reply?
That's a bit odd but okay, I'll pretend that every single post is an entirely isolated argument that has nothing to do with what was previously said going forward to avoid confusing you.

>>712504526
The context was there for 3. ThreeDogg explained what he was doing and you literally just repeat it back to him.

>>712503398
You mean the shandifaction guy? I’ve got his vid
https://youtu.be/eZ3GDcMXBFI?si=wBO4BnAXRSLQiLJY

>>712504513
The lore of the games is heavily reliant on the first two games & to your credit of being consistent keeping with the opposite day theme, people did not like the changes they made but that's beside the point. I have no idea what the lore has to do with the ongoing story & character writing unless you're lumping all of those together in which case you're also implicitly shitting on the lore they copied from the original games hence my reply.

>>712504565
>Is every new post in our conversation a new separate entity that discards the context of the previous reply
When people can’t argue they just pretend everything before it doesn’t exist and then keep moving on while jumping back to the points they pretend not to exist when they need to.

>play as evil character
>make him give you the key to the weapon stash
>hear his impotent seething on the radio the whole time afterwards

>>712504809
I never even implied I liked or disliked Bethesda's worldbuilding. I said it gets conflated with their writing and there are a considerable amount of people who suck them off over their worldbuilding and that it's very fucking easy to find examples of, to which you responded by schizing out and putting a bunch of words in my mouth lmao

I'm no fan of rich snobs, but how could anyone side with the ghouls in tenpenny tower debacle? They're essentially raiders at that point. If they parked outside Megaton or Rivet city and demanded their walls and resources, with a not so vague threat of violence, would they be treated any different?
Go make your own town, rotface!

>>7125018520
I'm bewildered that Bethesda could even get so big by simply making soulless slop for mindless drones.

>>712505457
Why is this the only fucking quest you can ever talk about with this game? Is it really the only actual dilemma that it has with any weight?

>>712501754 (OP)
>Emil wrote this
The absolute state

>>712501852
>high intelligence option is written by a brainlet
Oh the ironing

>>712502142
>devours a baby
I don't remember that bit

>>712505171
>I said it gets conflated with their writing
My mistake then, I clearly misinterpreted that.
>that it's very fucking easy to find examples of
Fallout 3 was widely criticized for its main story by normies because the main story about water deliberately went out of its way to insist upon itself showing how nonsensical it is. It made everyone notice that everyone is getting on just fine with the existing water in the world & that only the hobos outside of the towns were the only people who seemed to give a shit about water quality.
It was also near universally hated for the retarded shit that happened in second half of the game when you encounter eden & the retarded ending. The writing was so hated they changed the ending so you weren't forced to an hero for literally no reason at all & the hatred of bethesdas bitter "the lone wanderer was too much of a coward to kys for no reason" narration was VERY commonplace.
In the case of fallout 4 you couldn't find a single living breathing person who would defend the writing in that game, not even a literal down syndrome retard would defend that because its so aggressively bad. Normies didn't complain about shauns motivations, how nonsensical the railroad was, shit like the kid in the fridge? Opposite day, seriously. The people who were indifferent to the writing in 3 hated 4s writing, they hated that the dialog was cut down to yes, yes, yes, maybe later, being railroaded & the plot holes.
If people did like the shroud quest though which I'd argue was actually good & if you're counting that then I'll gladly take the label of retarded normie. And maybe nicks character writing, I've seen people praise that but the writing in a general sense? Nothing but negativity.
This is insane revisionism to claim people liked this garbage.
Theres a lot of terrible designs in these games normies liked but somehow you picked the things people actually hated about the games as your argument.

>>712502234
>implying Lamius wouldn't be tossing Eddy off the side covered in pitch and feathers
Joshua buckbroke himself because a lifetime of stomping shit sniffing tribals didn't mean anything against someone that knew how to actually move and fight. Lanius is fully aware that overexertion during the middle of a succession crisis is going to be the nail in the coffin of their entire movement. If the NCR doesn't pick them off the 80s or some other vultures will.

>>712506141
Alternate ending for the Pitt where you can destroy both sides by eating the cure with a side of rice.

>>712505737
Do you have any thoughts on other quests?

>>712506986
*crickets*

>>712507502
Delete this!

>>712502730
Can't remember the quest name but the Omerta quest where you can blackmail a guy twice in the same conversation is the funniest dialogue in a game I've played.

>>712501754 (OP)
Still the best Fallout game.

>>712504451
>lie
You're literally telling the truth. The "Casinos" he means are Gomorrah, The Tops, and Ultra-Luxe; not the Lucky 38.

>>712506986
I like Moira's quest and I fantasize about impregnating her before she understands what sex is.

>>712506141
>>712506424
It's a mod.

>>712503750
>crops a 4chan banner
>acts like he is an og fan

>>712506986
Not him but I liked the weird black and white Matrix simulation where some weird fucker cosplays as a little girl just to kill people when he gets bored.

>>712509796
You know he had been shlicking his bean with that avatar for the last month solid before you showed up right?

>>712509796
>show up to his simulation
>instantly beeline to the abandoned house to trigger the failsafe
>leave without talking to him
stay mad Braun

>>712501754 (OP)
What happens if you just kill him?

>>712509796
Seriously, what was his fucking problem?

>>712505457
>"Tenpenny's a bigot!", only badguys are called bigots
>residents of the tower are unlikeable and cartoonishly bad coded
>bad karma if you kill the ghoul
>the owner of the tower wants you to do an evil thing for literally no reason
>the only reasonable person in the tower likes ghouls and says there's a clear definition between good ones (they talk to you) and bad ones (they attack you and have the prefix/pronoun of Feral)
>racism analogy
>those with the prefix/pronoun of raider are always hostile and the only one who wasn't requires bad karma to recruit, so obviously this literal raider ghoul isn't a raider
>other ghouls are perfectly reasonable and for some reason if you do the peaceful resolution and then quietly kill the leader the mass murder doesn't trigger, this is considered a bug
I wonder if the ghouls killing the residents is the quest writer being upset someone might want a peaceful solution that doesn't involve killing everyone he disagreed with.

I never understood why Bethesda decided ghouls needed to be redeemed, but then Fallout 2 had the same idea that it's all a racism analogy when the first game's ghouls were isolationist cannibals and really interesting for not wanting to be a part of human society full stop. It'd be like if a sequel to LotR had the orcs in Gondor getting upset whenever some bigot even suggests that orcs don't pay their taxes (which justifies lynching said bigot, and everyone claps), and every character has "forgotten" that orcs eat people, genocided dwarfs and are tortured elf souls imbued with literal evil or something, it just doesn't come up, ever, the most evil an orc can be is forgetting to pay they/them's taxes on time.

>>712510176
He gets replaced by another character and the radio becomes just music

>>712506141
BEEEENNNNYYY

>>712510323
Don't know if that comparison works because in LOTR the Orcs were never shown to be more than monsters representing corruption. In Fallout the Ghouls all just used to be people who were affected by radiation in different ways, so I don't think it's too weird to say that there'd be variance among different individuals.

>>712510641
>in LOTR the Orcs were never shown to be more than monsters representing corruption
Read the book

>>712506986
I like the Paradise Falls one to enslave certain named NPCs around, wish they had expanded upon it so you could go full slaver and grab others like Moira, Three Dog (imagine the seethe) and Tenpenny, something like soul gems but with slave collars.

>>712510779
I must have missed the chapter about that one good orc that opened a bakery

>>712511002
Oh whoops, I misread your post. Nevermind.

>>712510315
It's like that Twilight Zone episode where a kid with god-like power over his tiny community becomes a horrible tyrant to amuse himself without really thinking too hard about it.

Except in this case it's a sadistic scientist trying to find ways to keep hundreds of years of being trapped in a simulation interesting.

>>712509749
You guys really like getting upset at things you imagined huh

>>712505457
any time somebody discriminates against a ghoul you're meant to side with the ghoul because muh racism
that said, real racism is functionally non-existent in fallout because uh... the apocalypse is hard to live in and people need to band together! unless they're ghouls

>>712510641
>>712511002
Fallout 1: the good ghouls just wish Set wouldn't be so meeeean. They still eat the water merchants who come by. And they opened a bakery... wait they didn't.

>>712511391
yeah

>>712512204
Set's just a pissant warlord like a bunch of bandits and raiders everywhere. The non-set ghouls that aren't out of their mind are just weak

>>712513963
*which is not to say the fallout 2 ghoul and mutant quest isn't corny californian faggotry, but that doesn't justify twisting the situations of gecko and necropolis

>>712513963
>>712514021
Alright I will concede. Fallout 2's super sodomy mutant quest really made me angry.

>>712505737
>Is it really the only actual dilemma that it has with any weight
I mean...