what the fuck has happened to video game graphics?

>>712523750 (OP)
Unreal Engine

>>712523750 (OP)
what resolution did the ps3 render that game in again?

>>712523750 (OP)
In nfs case frostbite has barely support and nobody knows how to use it after layoffs

>>712523979
better than shitty upscalers and ghost frames

>>712523750 (OP)
We lost the technology to good graphics and it's a painful process to build it back up again.

>>712524040
more like good engineers and programmers

>>712523750 (OP)
It's made by outsourcing. Look up the credits, it's basically all external companies.

>>712523750 (OP)
>top pic: made by white males
>bottom pic: made by gays, browns, and women, 90% of the assets outsourced to india

>>712523750 (OP)
unbound truly does look like shit
pic related, maxed out at 1440p

>>712524712
and here's mw12

>>712523750 (OP)
Unreal Engine
Jews
Celebrities
Normalfags
Zoomers
Playstation
Microsoft
Consumerism
>>712524040
Retard

>>712523750 (OP)
>>712524712
they must have fired all the skilled devs. nfs 2015 mogs many games that come out today.

>>712524871
Stop signing your posts, newfag.

>>712524871
>>>712524040
>Retard
Studios laid off all the white males who knew how to create and optimize video games, which is why a PS3 game from 2012 looks better than a PS5 game from 2022.

>>712524040
What do you mean you lost the technology
Go find it

>>712523750 (OP)
Don't care just give me midnight club

>>712525432
>culture war garbage
Kill yourself /pol/nigger

>>712525539
You first, nation-destroyer.

>>712525562
you are brown

>>712523979
>console
irrelevant

>>712525593
Not as brown as the credits of an average 2022 video game.

>>712525679
lol

>>712524040
only flat earthers would get this reference

unbound looks like a ps2 game

>>712524908
fully agree
did you try any of the mods that claim they unfuck the handling? I'm thinking of reinstalling for a modded playthrough

this just proves the Switch 2 is powerful enough. stop using garbage engines and start optimizing your games again

Modern game creation tools means any retard can make a game, you're seeing the results.

>>712527271
Cool it with the anti-semitism

>>712526307
*moonhoaxers

>>712523750 (OP)
Tech is getting more complicated, there isn't enough time for innovations and experiments, there is worldwide corporate sabotage happening for past 10 years cause by jews and banks, and everything in tech world is being dictated by bean counters and jews.
That's your TLDR.

>>712524712
it's funny because it is probably the first game in YEARS that must have been optimized. Heat hardly got to 60fps on my toaster but i got stable 60 on unbound, with almost no graphic loss (not that there was a lot to lose in the first place lmao)
>GTX 1650

>>712524040
Never A Straight Answer strikes again

>>712523750 (OP)
Do you want 60 fps or not?

>>712523750 (OP)
is this one of those flood = good graphics, like those enb for gta sa?

>>712525432
Killzone 2 will remain top 3 best graphics of 2008. Next to Crysis that used dx10 it isna visual marvel.
Hell Peter Jacksons King Kong, Conker Live and Reloaded, so many games looked really good back then

>>712523750 (OP)
>what the fuck has happened to video game graphics?
big open worlds are less dense with content and more procgen instead of manual labor

>>712523908
So this is UE derangement syndrome?

>>712524040
>What did I say?
>What did I tell you to do?!

>>712532808
No it’s competition for the
>photorealism meme
Where everything is super focused on lighting while neglecting everything else.

do a very mediocre job, market it through muddled youtube videos and live streaming services, then wait for thirdies to still buy your shitty one-year development and mandatory release game, because they just love money, that goes for every game released

>>712523750 (OP)
Something bad.

>>712523750 (OP)
>what the fuck has happened to video game graphics?
Faggots online started pretending every game from the 2010s looks like RDR2 or Arkham Knight, while pretending blurry screenshots of Suicide Squad are what every game from the 2020s looks like.

Real answer is there is a competency crisis in game development. Devs with competent art designers and coders still make pretty games, there's just fewer of them nowadays.

oh yes, I 'member.

>>712533083
Only non-tranny answer, I'm apalled.

>>712523750 (OP)
>if the game doesnt have a slick road in every part of the game then the graphics suck

>>712523750 (OP)
top: white devs
bottom: brown devs

>>712524908
Say what you want about EA but they were kings when it comes to graphics at one point. They used to be top tier in that front, nuBattlefront looked especially crisp even today for example.

>>712533783
i dont get why you retards jack off stencil shadows they look like shit. the parallax stuff probably looked blurry at intended res ie 1024 or 480

>>712523750 (OP)
Its a simple concept.

Good art direction=timeless

>>712533783
At least use Doom 3. That game aged way better. FEAR's art is horrible and bland.

>>712534098
>forspoken
>using modern tools
>any intern can scan any person
>any outsourced studio can motion capture any motion
>no skill required

>half life 2
>talanted devs using handmade tools
>putting effort into scanning people
>working to make sure they look right when animated
>skill required

real and honest skill issue, modern devs doesn't have what it takes.

>>712534185
doom 3 ran like shit, played like shit and to be perfectly honest it looked like shit once you looked past fancy texture and shadow tech

>>712534497
fear was all those and looked worse doing it

>>712533998
I know it's called the "anti soul fog" here but what's this actual graphic technique called?

>>712525819
>>712534409
Lets look at Starfield vs Vampire The Masquerade as another example.

Tim Cain and his team managed to make an ambitious cult classic RPG with an unstable source dev kit.

While Todd and his team are still making a same old buggy RPG game with a dated engine while outsourcing their work force to 3rd world countries.

>>712532798
Both of the games in that picture are open world.

>>712534994
>Starfield
when an unit in Attila Total War have more emotion...

>>712536453
When older games have better idle animation than the newer one.

When older games are more interactive than the newer one.

Devs are in the middle of the biggest skill issue ever seen

>>712534994
vtmb was so good. one of those ones where you want to do multiple playthroughs to try different styles/skills and story options.
my name isn't larry but sometimes i use the first part of fat larrys intro quote irl when i meet someone new. using my name instead.

fukk it's been years, must play it again

>>712525819
>Dilipsun Anal

>>712534912
it's volumetric lighting/fog
hacks thinks it makes things look filmic

>>712523979
Doesn't matter. It can be played on PC and still performs well. It's a shit game, but it is impressively optimized for its visuals.

>>712523979
>muh heckin resolution
Total mustardtranny death

>>712533143
Luminous engine is great, flopspoken devs just shit

>>712523750 (OP)
pajeets and AI slop, greed and lazy/garbage developers, that's it, i played a demo yesterday on Steam, 10 GB of Vram for something that look worse than a PS3 game

>>712538912
>pajeets and AI slop, greed and lazy/garbage developers
This is the reason. It is just easier from a development standpoint to use simulations instead of doing the hard work and coding in some baked in lighting or using some clever cube maps for reflections. There is no artistry left in video games. Its pure simulated slop.

>>712523750 (OP)
deferred rendering + taa.

>>712524712
the jpg sky is the only good thing lmao

>>712523750 (OP)

>>712525819
sir

>>712538912
>AI slop
Games started being shit long before AI slop became part of development.

Women happened.

>>712523750 (OP)
>>712539891

>>712523750 (OP)
i liked unbound, truest sequel of underground

>>712523979
What resolution does DLSS4 render your modern slop, retard-kun?

>meanwhile, in 2004

>>712525819
>lead/senior outsource artist
that will be 69.95 inc VAT, thaaaaanks

>>712523979
The same contrarians shitting at you will go in "resolution" threads and post something like "2k is the bare mininum and even then hardly acceptable" lmao
Dishonest fucks.

>>712523750 (OP)
brown and women devs

I can understand games getting worse on a technical level. I can even understand they getting worse on a technical level while consuming 100x more resources.
But what I have a hard time understanding is how they do all that while still making the games somehow more costly to develop.

>>712540891
If your game cannot run at native 4K 60FPS on my 4090, I won't play it. Simple as. This resolution has been the standard of TVs and non-gaming computers for over 10 years now. It's ridiculous that gamers are still using 1080p/1440p screens.

>>712541027
Turns out that paying 1000 Indians is somehow more costly than paying a straight white man

Also the SJW types that are directly contracted sit on their asses all the time browsing twitter and going to the cafeteria, they get paid anyway, so the games will take forever to finish

>>712541027
Do you know how much health insurance costs a company? It's like $70k PER PERSON and is not part of their salary. It's required to be provided by law. More people, even paid less, still means paying more benefits.

>>712541368
Ok, but then... why don't they hire less but more skilled people?

>>712541451
short term line must go up

>>712541368
>what are term limited contract roles?

>>712541491
But is this even short term at this point? Games used to be developed in 1 year, maybe 2. Wasn't Vice City made in 6 months or something?
Now we wait almost a decade, sometimes even more than a decade, for the game to be released.

>>712541548
>Here's your 365 - 1 day contract, please be passionate about developing [game]
And people wonder why AAA games are shit

>>712541740
>365 - 1 day contract
Not even. Contracts start at 2-6 months then only ever get renewed every 6 months. Sure must be motivating creating something you're not sure you'll keep working on in another 6 months.

>>712541930
Not that jeets are ever motivated about anything anyway.

>>712523750 (OP)
Not only does it look worse, it runs like shit on hardware generations ahead of the top shelf of that era. What happened? There's no passion in AAA anymore, that's what happened, those studios are staffed by drones that just want to collect their paycheck and go home.

If games running worse and looking worse is the price we have to pay for diversity, then so be it.

>>712523908
This + outsourcing. Any "AAA" game is in a race to the bottom to cut as many costs as possible. The result is the vidya equivalent of sitcoms

>>712542282
AHAHAHA UE5 KEEPS COMING OUT WITH SLOP AFTER SLOP AFTER SLOP

>>712534994
its absolutely mind boggling that starfield, a brand new game by a multi-gorillion dollar studio cant match a game from fucking 2004. how the fuck is that possible man.

>>712542367
..Which one is supposed to be the new one?

>>712537669
seems like it could be great when trying to make a scene that's actually meant to very foggy/misty. it just seems to be used everywhere as a filter now.

>>712542460
If you are ever confused anon, just find the washed out pic. That's UE5. You know - antisoul gas.

>>712524040
No we didn't. Games are even easier then ever to produce, but we fired all the talent and put in dysgenic talentless filth to replace it (ie minorities and women)

>>712540638
SOVL

>>712524908
If you like NFS 2015 you are never allowed to call any game blurry that uses TAA.

>>712540638
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a8PonO1bl0

>>712540521
dlss is not needed on 90 cards though

>>712544058
Did you see the "hell is us" anouncement where they state that you MUST use scaling in order to REACH even 30 fps on a 4090?

I don't know what happened, but even in 2008 - 2012, games had this sort of vibrancy with their graphics that made gaming at that time feel more fun and alive than it does now.

I don't know if it was because the graphics were more crisp and detailed back then because the focus was on what they can present frontally, whereas the entire focus today is everything being shaded, blurred, and fogged now.

>>712544192
bwahaha, looks like Far Cry 4, so it sounds like another shit game cobbled together by amateurs, aka not going to play it

Modern rendering techniques are moving away from cheap tricks and instead are heavily focusing on actual simulation and the way the real world works.

There might be hiccups here and there but in the long term visuals will achieve true photo realism which something that is fundamentally impossible with the old practices.

I fully expect we'll solve lighting in the next ten years and we'll move on to particle level physics.

>>712543981
I'm more a mudvayne fan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDrOdmEtjoI

>>712543039
OG hardware this time!

>>712544385
Far cry 4 doesn't look like that though.

>>712523750 (OP)
Nobody makes in-house game engines or mods existing engines anymore.

>>712523750 (OP)
this is not how fucking most wanted looked like retard this is screenshot of either heavily modded version or completely different game
and no im not even gonna check how it looks, i played it enough to know its a different game

>>712524908
I can barely see the road in that pic and I'm not talking about what's in front of the car.

>>712545486
>1080p
Found the problem.

Are these game engine that have the potential to create amazing graphics which often end up really unoptimized just a situation where the graphics programmers/ math wizes are the ones that develop the toolsets and do their job right but then studio suits license out said toolset to game devs who have no real idea what they're doing causing poor performance relative the visuals and all that technical stuff that bogs performance down?

>>712525606
>>712538275
And what resolution were you playing on PC in 2012, cause even now most steamies only use 1080p

>>712544965
>GO
>SO FUCKING DETERMINED
>GO
>YOU BELIEVE IT

>>712546172
I will also accept helmet.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nISHOLHBVEo

>>712523750 (OP)
https://youtu.be/3icXhcjiSKU?t=19027
Meanwhile in reality

>>712545163
Not far off, certainly not something that should run at anything below 200fps on a 90 card

>>712546517
>the wrong most wanted

>>712540638
>visual vomit
streetshitter racers fuck off

>>712524908
Now make the sun rise.

>>712546765
>uuugh where's the sand traps
>where's muh apex
>uuugh is that something other than concrete
I came here to laugh at you.

>>712523750 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7FS38lq7u4

>>712532808
EA forcing every subsidiary to use Frostbite until recently was a horrible idea.

we stopped using filters to make the graphics look good, now the graphics can hold up on their own easily (provided they are made by the right people).

>>712523750 (OP)
>what the fuck has happened to video game graphics?
Mainly, resolutions have gone up. Developers have gotten lazy in implementing things like graphics features otherwise.
Those ground reflections in MW2012, for example, reflect the world around just fine and look good. Likely not that taxing, either.
To implement those same reflections in a "modern" game, however, the same developers would be implementing "global illumination" and ray tracing just to make the streets look shiny. Those same devs then struggle to get a game to run at 4K60 with all that, so they either tone it down, tone down the resolution, or you have to play your fast-paced racing game in "performance" mode with gimped reflections instead.
I still think NFS2015 was one of the best looking of the series, despite it being one of if not the worst playing title.

>>712537049
Grateful for your understanding.

>>712523750 (OP)
The real world looks as bland as the bottom pic. They started chasing realism instead of capitalizing on the fact that video games aren't real and making something that looks better than real life.

>>712533783
Kek, this is my picture from ages ago.
Thanks for posting this anon. I lost it

here's your progress bro

>>712523750 (OP)
>dude we need to improve the lightning system
>we need more sources of illumination
>we need real time shadows on every object
>we need real time indirect lightning
>we need real time calculation of light bouncing off objects and illuminating other nearby objects
>we need to overhaul how light passes through transparent materials
>we need to overhaul how light reflects from reflective surfaces
>and so on and so on
Over the past 10 - 15 years videogame studios have become obsessed with the quest to perfect lightning in their games. Everything else has become an afterthought and graphics have suffered from prolonged stagnation due to this. Every time they proudly show off an advancement in graphics technology it's about light and shadow because those are the current big frontier all devs compete over

it's ridiculous that games nowadays look soulles, worse, has no atmosphere or creative vision and cost x10 more to make than 10 years ago
WHAT. THE. FUCK. HAPPENED!!!!!!???????

>>712547035
>steering is booooring when i can just WALLRIDE
>useless activity like DRIFTING AND DRAGRACE(aka pressing accelerate button for 10 seconds)
>lets shit on our cars by installing eyeburning decals and bodykits
>magic speedboost with NOS
>rap "music" and fokdapolice vibe
>dumb as rock AI and ketsup.

>>712548376
You didn't need to type all that out to say you hate fun anon.

>>712548254
lmao how are you supposed to get another 2D to 3D jump from HL2 anyways?

What are the cause of ballooning costs then?
Games are more complex than ever they say

>>712547082
>beat savo
>get told to kill myself
Well that was certainly rude.

>>712548025
Seriously though, I remember in the late '00s being wowed by games just walking up to walls, bulletholes etc and watching the way textures made things look 3D. Almost 20 years on and current year games are still struggling to implement this as if it's some "new" feature (that needs the newest graphics cards to run decent on).
>>712548376
Why yes, my favorite NFS titles are pre-Underground as well, fellow boomer.

>>712548319
Gamergate and profit margins.
Gamergate infected the industry with woke because it became too big to ignore and not brainwash like the rest of mainstream crap like music and movies.
Profit margins because games were becoming too expensive to develop so Epic invested in the one size fit all UE5 and Nvidia invested in the one lighting solution fit all GAYTRACING whereas most other companies turned to cheap third world jeet labor because shareholders. Quantity was valued over quality and we get what we get.
That's literally it.

>>712548254
I'm not gonna act like the bottom image doesn't represent a fairly significant jump in lighting quality just because I want to be old and bitch about NEW THING BAD

>>712548973
Yeah the game industry has never been known for shovelware produc- OH WAIT

>>712548597
it demonstrates that all of the graphics progress in the last 20 years is basically irrelevent and amounts to an excuse to not adding any gameplay.

for FPS games, nobody needed more than CS1.6, or COD4, or Red Orchestra 1, or whatever. Everything in the last 15 years is just garbage. even games people consider one of the last of the good era. Skyrim? Nobody liked Skyrim when it came out. It was considered a total flop. Now because it's 15 years later and there are 1 billion mods for it AND nothing new has come out, it's considered one of the good games because standards have dropped that hard. Fucking crazy. Developers can't do anything other than make some in-game purchase garbage and make children addicted to gambling. Fuck it all.

>>712549667
>Skyrim? Nobody liked Skyrim when it came out. It was considered a total flop.
lol
lmao even

>>712549569
It's never been this bad. 20 years ago most AAA were good and didn't have issues running. Even Crysis could run on lower end hardware. Today you need the top of the line goycard with MFG and DLSS to get a stable 1440p/60.

>>712523750 (OP)
Want to know the truth? Engines that do most of the work for you and nerds with physics, math and programming knowledge/thirst have moved on to profitable ventures (like AI).

>>712549962
I think he just revealed his age. He was probably a toddler at the time.

>>712549962
I was literally there. It was a joke. they barely did fucking anything to improve from Oblivion. They couldn't even fix the dumb ass NPC interactions. Towns are tiny and have no NPCs. It was the exact same fucking game but now snow! Shove your lol lmao up your ass faggot. I was there and i'm not being psyop'd into "BRO SKYRIM WAS ALWAYS GOOD" when it was ass from release day.

>>712523750 (OP)
the people that used to make the games that were good dont make them anymore

>>712532742
kill zone 2 had ungodly amounts of post-processing to make it look good. it took talent to turn some low res trash into a good looking game tho, I'll give you that.

idk what the fuck devs lost with reflections from ps3 era but it all looks better than modern games

>>712550260
Everyone had Skyrim for 360, Just because subjective mechanics still sucked doesn't mean it was a flop lmao.

>>712536657
>the ammo box randomly moving in 3
gee thanks devs, it's just like in real life when ghosts move shit around!

>>712550260
lmfao

>>712550224
i was 16 when it came out. i actually can't believe anybody is even arguing skyrim was considered good when it had the exact same problems as oblivion.

>>712550478
i don't literally mean a fiancial flop. I mean it was not a significant improvement upon oblivion.

>>712550529
nigger

>>712550556
My bad i get you, Skyrim stinks compared to Oblivion and honestly most of Bethesda's output is bad.

>>712546085
1024x768

>>712550556
I agree that the game was a dumbed down and consolized Oblivion but you can't use the word "flop" for one of the biggest financial successes in gaming history.

>muh gaytracing realism!
>modern games can't even do water caustics like the ones in Crysis 3

>despite having higher quality textures and models most modern games look like shit
make it make sense

>>712550814
>>712550895
yeah, i recognize that normies and award shows thought skyrim was aMaZinG!!! but in reality it was oblivion with snow, and at least for me it was extremely disappointing and forgettable. may as well have been an expansion pack for oblivion IMO.

>>712533051
Tons of games are "photorealistic", retard. Go and play your tranime pedo slop and shut your fucking mouth.

>>712549962
if you think skyrim is good then lol. skyrim is the most simplified and detail lacking RPG i've ever played. Compared to Morrowind it's straight up retard shit.

>>712523750 (OP)
Unironically, skill issue.
Most of the people working in the models and rendering aren't the same ones as before, as they were laid off or quit the company. EA has been pushing the Frostbite engine for quite a while but they lost all if not most of the devs who knew the full potential of it.

>>712551437
Doesn't matter what my opinion is, to call it a flop is objectively fucking retarded by any metric

>>712550991
All models are made in ZBrush which is a clay sculpting software, which is why so much of it look like clay, it also create insanely detailed models not suited for video games. They could fix it but they're using ZBrush to rush as many models as possible in the first place, they want speed not quality.
PBR also mean you need 5 times more textures than old games, which mean 5 times the risk of ruining everything. It's also why to add fog to hide how shit it look

>>712548601
Marketing.

>>712553375
i knew there would be some autist on here who had a problem with saying flop instead of bad lol. unreal.

>>712553623
Not my fault words have meanings

>>712553623
>use a word wrong
>get called out for it
>quadruple down on using it wrong

>>712536806
Left: What happens to indians irl
Right: What happens to indians in their dreams

>>712523750 (OP)
diminishing returns every console generation

>>712524712
>>712524908
>chromatic aberration

>>712525819
so the changs are poo ranglelers?

>>712548635
I agree, glad my pic resonated with you anon!
I feel you mang, I'm sharing thing with you.
We stagnated in the early 2000s. Thats my opinion

>>712553737
>>712553773
Skyrim was a flop. Seethe.
>OMG BUT IT MADE SO MUCH OMNEY
what are you a fucking kike? who gives a single fuck

>>712554407
You are unbelievably retarded

>>712523750 (OP)
new Need for Speed game when?

>>712542518
A common problem in graphics. You spent the time making a thing, so now you're going to make sure everyone sees the thing. Volumetric fog is just as expensive if it's a subtle effect that mostly only effects distant objects like in the real world. But that means you only get to see it in a handful of places, not the mostly close up sections in these games. Solution? Turn the sliders up until you have more mist than a sauna.

>>712554618
you think skyrim is good and you think someone else is retarded. explains why everything is so bad now

Most Wanted kicks ass

>>712523750 (OP)
>old good
>new bad
i remember when mw2012 came out and /v/ shat on it relentlessly

>>712553542
AHHH that explains it. I was always wondering why every single UE5 game looks like grainy mud mixed with max effort Silent Hill 2 fog

>>712540891
You can play both games at 1080p and the old one will look and run better. What now, "honest" faggot?

>>712553542
>PBR also mean you need 5 times more textures than old games
What the fuck are you talking about, PBR added one new map, going from 3 to 4
>All models are made in ZBrush
No they're not, stop talking nonsense.

>>712554818
I don't think skyrim is good and I think you're a fucking retard because you can't comprehend the fact you used a word wrong and instead of just accepting that you continue to make yourself look like someone that got a lobotomy

>>712557067
your moms ass flopped on my dick

>>712557167
Post all the brain dead insults you want, you're still a fucking retard

>>712557265
your mom went retarded after i smacked her

>>712557606

>NOOOOO STOP DOING THAT IT'S ILLEGAL YOU NEED RAYTRACING FOR THAT TYPE OF LIGHTING STOP USING FORBIDDEN TECHNOLOGY

>>712558087
i am sending rtx police after you.

>>712558087
Jensen didn't get that leather jacket from showing off some video cards at CES. Lock your doors.

God I hate ray tracing.

>>712559302
Who doesn't?

Can we get those sonic autists to decomp Burnout 3 or Revenge?

>>712559908
This except burnout 2.

>>712534098
Alyx so qt3.14.

>>712524908
>we've contrarian'd so hard retards are using nfs 2015 as an example of a good game

>>712524908
this shit looks no different to current games
i hate diminishing returns

>>712555489
Why the fuck do developers use top again?

>>712523979
You really think the top picture of MW 2012 was taken on a fucking PS3? It looked like fucking TRASH on the PS3. It was a pixelated mess on the PS3 with low and muddy textures. That's obviously on PC with the game maxed out. OP is being a disingenuous faggot.

>>712555489
This doesn't look to bad for a 20 years old game
>read the filename
well fuck

Most Wanted was incredibly good to be fair. Easily one of the best games ever made. That said the new one might run better, some games that look worse like burnout can be alright

>>712560426
You didn't notice it but this is a threat interactive grifter thread in disguise.

>>712546082
That is exactly the problem. If you see interviews with unreal devs they clearly know what they're doing but no one is reading the documentation as they should.

>>712523750 (OP)
It's less so the graphics and more so the lack of personality

>>712534994
To be fair, VTMB was a buggy mess too. I think it was literally unplayable at launch

>>712561746
>reading UE docs
>ever

>>712524908
This just looks like a PS3 game with ReShade

>>712523750 (OP)
Upscaling + Unreal Engine
Can't get more putrid

>>712563287
What causes the vegetation in UE5 all yellow/brown?

>>712563983
I dunno man but it keeps me up at night

>>712550991
>>despite having higher quality textures and models
this part just isn't true
I remember realizing this when I used to argue with barry, he would always bring up the amount of polygons in the FFXV models but the models look like absolute fucking shit. I said they looked sims tier and that includes the animations and I wasn't really wrong.

higher resolution and more polygons =/= higher quality
on average, somehow, these things are lower quality than stuff 15+ years old

>>712524261
I'm gay and brown and I love optimizing the shit out of games

the people who knew all of the tricks to make games look good have been replaced by people that think they don't need to do anything as long as they download UE5

>>712524712
Yes but it has ANIME TRAILS!!
WOOOAH SO COOOOL!!

>>712523750 (OP)
chicago is just ugly as sin. unbound is the best NFS game to come out in the last 10 years. i'll fight anyone on that. soundtrack is actually good too. people will scream at me in YT comments for that because they miss their angsty Linkin Park.

>>712523750 (OP)
Nothing beyond cattle supporting bad devs that obviously don't know what they're doing and hire only jeets.
Support Yuro studios except Ubislop and CDProjektJew, Japanese devs too.
Who am i trying to fool though? You won't because of |made up thing to be angry about|

>>712563983
It is ~realistic~
That and most screens can't actually display green even remotely well.

>>712565135
is that the fucking pirates of the caribbean game? holy shit lmao

>>712525481
By technology he means White males
And they didn't lose it, they just refuse to hire them

>>712555489
I'll never play KCD2

>>712525819
>jitender

>>712565490
it's kingdom hearts 2

>>712549667
>it demonstrates that all of the graphics progress in the last 20 years is basically irrelevent and amounts to an excuse to not adding any gameplay.
Yeah okay but even if it looked perfect and gorgeous you're still comparing to a leap in actual dimensions to a prettier version inside the same
Of course everything is incremental when you compare it to 2 > 3D what a stupid fucking point to even try and make

>>712523750 (OP)
>game screenshot
>compressed youtube video screenshot
it is a mystery

>>712523750 (OP)
hordes of browns and retards buying slop that hordes of browns and jews make.

>>712565835
I was just about to make this exact post

>>712565793
FFXV is the most dogshit of dogshit games. Absolutely terrible by every single metric.

>>712565701
>i'll never play |kino|
we know v/ermin don't play vidya here, unless its gooner brown garbage slop

>>712539891
>5 to 1
I-I DIDN'T CHERRYPICK I SWEAR

>>712565795
excuses

>>712544353
clear, clean, crisp.
Modern unrealsloppha is blurredmessygarbledshitslop.

>>712523750 (OP)
hardware got better but software regressed in quality

>that 5 hour video essay about the need for speed franchise where it ends with the youtuber going on an unhinged rant about how everyone who doesn't like unbound is a nazi

>>712523750 (OP)
Nvidia and Raytracing. Literally the reason gaming has gone to shit.

>>712550083
>20 years ago most AAA were good
>Even Crysis could run on lower end hardware
This is one of the funniest posts I've read on /v/ in a while.

It's kino

>>712567039
Post?

>>712553808
kek

>>712523750 (OP)
All the good engineers and programmers were pushed out by HR, narcissistic moralizers, and other insufferable people who have no real value or purpose in the gaming industry.

>>712536806
manlets. When will they learn

>>712523750 (OP)
Just get a PS5, dumbfuck
and not a $1000 gpu.

>>712523908
Unreal Engine is a problem but for OPs pic the problem is having an online always connected world with people driving everyone means the graphical fidelity takes a serious hit

>>712523750 (OP)
The SAARppening

>>712568204
>can't read

graphics could have stopped getting better in 2016 and i would be happy. It feels like verything now looks worse than this and requires 10x better hardware

>>712568204
I agree, all these poorfags complain about blurry graphics when they're playing on garbage PC's at 1080p

>>712523750 (OP)
Console sloppers

>>712558087
any anons with game dev knowledge able to explain this? if this type of lighting and shadow affects was available back then, how come few cames from triple aaa titles have the simplest of ac?
how would one go to replicate this scene?

>buy ps5
>boot up game
>see this

>>712523750 (OP)
Welcome to Defered Rendering where lighting is shit and post process effects that depends of temporal information to not look like shit, yet, they still look like shit.

>>712537669
>hacks thinks it makes things look filmic
There are times it objectively adds atmosphere. Those times are called Silent Hill games.

>>712568567
This. My PS5 does 4K. My TV does 4K. And yet consolefags are the poor ones?
And I do have a computer, just not for games, it's a decade old iMac and it has a 5K screen.
Why are PC gamers still living in the 20th century?

>>712568724
It's a mirror. Raytracing was always a meme to get low IQ brown people to buy consoles

>>712569015
>My PS5 does 4K
lol, lmao even

>>712523750 (OP)
Unreal shills will claim the bottom looks better.

>>712569037
>It's a mirror
Even consoles could do mirrors before raytracing. Now they act like it's the only way to get reflections.

>>712523908
Fpbp.

>>712523908
FIPPY BIPPY.

Unreal Engine 5 is a red flag.

>>712569130
It even does 8K!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNGA_XnWVMg

>>712569460
KEK

>>712569460
The touryst sure is a nice looking game.

>>712569639
The power... of the PS5

>>712565135
>hero characters vs random NPC
it''s like the starfield and silent hill 3 comparison - utterly retarded. get a grip man.

>>712569676
I wish, that was captured on pc.

>>712569887
Consistency of a game's visuals is important. Why do minor NPCs look like they're from PS2 games in PS5 games? It's jarring.

>>712569975
because all the poly and texture budget is on more important things than a random NPC 99% of people will pass by or engage with for 10 minutes max.

>>712569975
They need to fill the memory with 49,000 polygon rocks

>>712570059
I'd rather the entire game have worse graphics and be consistent.

>>712570115
no such thing. all games skimp out on RANDOM NPCs. no one is going to go through them and make them hero tier. what retardation is this.

>muh grapheex
>disregards the absolute dogshit tier audio tech and quality that even reached a point of regression
a shame most of the arcade racing fans are all fucking deaf console retards

>>712567196
>try to add soul
>it's like 3 effects total
wasted potential

>>712570336
Nobody cares about audio. AV receivers are dead and all gamers want are 2W TV speakers and turtle beach headsets. Trueaudio, EAX and the rest died for your sins.

>>712533687
They're both bad. I can't make out shit in the top screenshot because of the resolution. The bottom one just looks like shit, but I have a feeling it's a cherrypicked shot.

>>712550083
>Even Crysis could run on lower end hardware
No, it couldn't. Why do you think "but can it run Crysis?" became a meme?

>>712569887
it's not a random NPC

>>712570059
You are so retarded. Despite having 1000x more polygons and 20x higher resolution textures and 10x the budget per model they somehow look worse.
>it doesn't matter that 20 years has passed and characters look worse!!!

>>712526307
>flat earthers
cool well poisoning

>>712533783
I remember being impressed by the bulletholes back then

>>712523750 (OP)
Artists are being fired and outscourced. Older games had cleaner styles because dedicated art teams adjusted the lighting and shading manually to look pleasing to the eye. Now 90% of the graphical heavy lifting is done by (Unreal) engine. its also why games look more and more samey.

Have you noticed that most modern games use the exact same looking Unreal Engine particle trails? They're too lazy to code and draw that shit manually.

>>712565472
so funny when you think about it, the retards who make modern games act like colors don't exist, fog everywhere, shit distance etc
go outside faggots

>>712575161
Nobody needs - or can see - more than srgb. Wide gamuts are fucking scam to sell you oled screens.

>>712574159
"modern" in this context is the past 12 years at least, you can't blame this on unreal and the chinese

>>712575161
Outside doesn't look like that either, it's much more muted (well at least to human eyes).

>>712548319
jeets and troons happened

>>712540638
pure sovl

>>712576081
>much more
like 10% maybe

>>712575161
>>712576081
not perfect but this is closer to real life

>>712549962
>>712550224
Actual underageb& holy fucking shit please never post on /v/ again

>>712576885
AGH MY EYES NOT ENOUGH GREY WASH IT OUT WASH IT OUT

>>712560426
I never played 2015 before. wasnt it hated for using real humans for the cutscenes? sure they were a bit cringe but much better than what we got in heat and unbound. I never minded the cheesy dialogue in nfs games.
you seem to indicate the game has much bigger problems. can you explain to me who's out of the loop?

>>712523750 (OP)
>Harlow
>Eleonore
>Cha Cha

>>712560570
looks exactly like the image on PS3 you asshurt pc cuck

>>712537014
hit the gym
>>712536453
not saying starfield is good, but attila units have just one expression that is unchanging. that means they are not expressive as they dont change expressions.
>>712534994
>tim caine the taxi driver
>>712536806
thats not them being lazy or incompetent. the indian devs just got ptsd and didnt want to implement it.
>>712547461
>hardsurface artist
we used to have a 3D designer and that was all we needed.
no wonder every game looks samey if they are hiring people based on if they can make concrete or bricks instead of just 3D design in general.

>>712541162
for games sure.
office software? half of them scale so half look too big and other half look too small.

>>712523979
The same resolution modern games are rendered at internally, before the AI meme """upscales""" it with fakery.

>>712523750 (OP)
The chase for "realism" is a dead end. We hit diminishing returns a long time ago.

>>712542367
the helicopter model actually looks worse in the new pic. no wonder they are trying to hide it.

>>712523750 (OP)
Is very good grafic, saar

>>712568239
online players don't take any more fidelity to render than npcs. and most wanted '12 was an online game too.
it's laziness.

>>712544941
I dont want photo realism nigga
real life is boring
give me my fantasy land aesthetics

>>712547432
>he looks hot
>she looks like a male dog
why did they made her skull like that?

>>712548309
and yet every remaster has worse lighting
most curious

>>712533998
is the top one mh online? fuck man world should've had graphics like that

>>712555383
from a gameplay standpoint
and deservedly so

>>712563983
2 things
1. brown vegetation demoralizes customers
2. thats probably the most vibrant grass the outsourced designer could find, they should unironically trace google images

>>712523750 (OP)
Hold me like the world is ending.

>>712568736
they can actually make a fairy game where there is fairy dust everywhere.
they can actually use the shimmering to highlight interactable objects.
alas, that is too sovlfvll for the them.

>>712581247
Yeah it is, that's from Monster Hunter Online back when Tencent gave a shit. Capcom outsourced it to CryEngine and it actually looked incredible, still puts World and Rise to shame in raw fidelity. World had that weird blurry film grain look and everything's smeared in brown and gray filters. MHO was just... clean and sharp. Shame it never left China and got nuked into the void.

>>712578992
Stop lying, faggot. The console versions had no AA. That picture clearly has AA. You're misremembering, because your console brain is so fucking fried you think shit looked better than it actually did. Look at the resolution of the fucking screenshot, dumb consolenigger. You think that shit was running on 1080p on the fucking PS3? Behave dumb monkey

>>712544058
it's

>>712523750 (OP)
competent people got pushed out of the industry

>>712523979
glorious 360p