Indie devs have proved time and time again, that all you need is good gameplay to make a fuck ton of money and visual fidelity is irrelevant

99% of indies aren't worth playing because they look like shit
and that doesnt mean they need realistic graphics dumb retard

>>712534908 (OP)
never because normalfags are mesmerized by the simplest of things

>indie devs
>billionaire
>150 million from china
>a list celebrities voice acting your game
yeah bros real indie devs you got there

What I don't understand about this shit is how AAA suits can't see how much money they are losing by taking the Unreal pill. The majority of PC gamers have fucking toasters with old cards and 16 GB of fucking RAM. A game like Doom Dark Ages is seriously limiting the potential user base by requiring a raytracing card. Do they not see the problem here?

>>712535159
>peopel will update their pcs to run our single player , multiplatform game that isn't even pushing graphics!

>>712535159
When you realize that most AAA games are just vehicles for propaganda and/or money laundering it makes perfect sense
The same thing happened to cinema once it got big

>>712535159
>16 gb ram
>toaster
games SHOULDN'T need that much

>>712534908 (OP)
>Indie devs have proved
That 2D pixelshit sucks and games should be 3D.

>>712534908 (OP)
its not about graphics. it was never about graphics.
indie games pay youtubers to shill their shit
aaa devs get paid by hardware jews to shill their shit so they can pay marketers to shill their shit

>>712537678
I agree, I'm just saying that devs are working against their own interests. They would sell more copies if they spent time either optimizing their games or spending less time and money on le grafix.

>>712539357
I think the idea is that if you can't afford "modern" hardware, you probably won't cough up $70 for a shitty game anyway

>>712542296
Well that's a shit impression. If you've saved money on hardware you would have more to spend on vidya...

Modern devs are optimization retards these games run on 2x recourses they actually need.
And I agree gaytracing should die and Nvidia needs to be castrated for pushing it, they dug a hole where even their mid cards are trash the moment they release.

>>712538048
Exactly this. It's all marketing shell games. People act like there's some kind of meritocracy in game dev, but 90% of it is just who pays who to talk about what. You think some rando pixel roguelike hits the front page of Steam and gets hundreds of thousands of sales because it's "just that good"? Nah, it was greased through visibility pipelines from the start. Meanwhile, there's actual passion projects rotting in the ass-end of Itch.io because they can't afford to bribe a Twitch goblin to fake react on camera.

>>712539357
>They would sell more copies if they spent time either optimizing their games or spending less time and money on le grafix.
Why bother optimizing when your slop can run like ass but still sell a million copies

>>712534908 (OP)
Plenty of indies with dogshit gameplay have become successful
Graphic fidelity is still the best bet for a publisher

>>712544067
Crazy how this game is down to 20k after just three months

>>712534990
exactly

>>712535159
>What I don't understand about this shit is how AAA suits can't see how much money they are losing by taking the Unreal pill.
I get that you guys hate unreal but now you're being straight delusional
the biggest successes of the year (expedition 33 and marvel rivals) are both made in UE5
you think suits don't see that? oh wait a sec, they just now saw some anon complaining on 4chan, so they've changed their mind!
retard

The last game that genuinely impressed me with its visuals is RDR2, SEVEN FUCKING YEARS AGO
GRAPHICS HAVE BEEN GOING NOWHERE FOR ALMOST A DECADE
I HATE CALIFORNIANS
I HATE INDIANS
I HATE JEWISH STOCKHOLDERS
I HATE UE5
I PRAY TO EVERY GOD OF EVERY MAJOR RELIGION EVERY NIGHT TO SMITE THIS GODAWFUL FUCKING INDUSTRY

>>712544067
>>712545361
Anons I'm just saying they could be making MORE money. They are losing out on the large chunk of the PC market who don't have the latest hardware, this is a fact. Later on, once we get to the point that Doom Dark Ages is at, where these games simply won't boot on your toaster, we will see sales drop significantly.

>>712534908 (OP)
why do you think gaming almost died in the 90s
those pixel cartoons weren't good enough and it took 2 gens before the billions poured in

>>712545734

>>712534972
FPBP.

Still not playing your 50 hour pixelshit, Toby.

>>712534908 (OP)
Normalfags is where the money is
And normalfags like realistic graphics

You called, /v/?

>>712546217
Why do they hate him so much? He's a nobody

>>712534908 (OP)
It's all about pleasing the investors. As long as they give money, you don't have to make anything good.

>>712534990
You cant blame normies this time, they are playing fifa and minecraft

>>712535159
Doesn't matter. They're saving massively on developer salary and training time by adopting a standard engine instead of developing in-house.

>>712544909
It's dropped below World a few times already, absolutely incredible work by the devs

How long until the gameplay bubble finally pops?

Ill repeat this again and again, the blame for all of this ALWAYS TRACES BACK TO SONY AND THEIR GARBAGE CONSOLE, and their retarded idea of bloating games so only their product is played, Activision then spread this bad habit everywhere, zoomers wont know and normies will ignore that activision bloated every CoD game to make sure other games wont be installed either.

If graphics don't matter why do you all lose your shit every single time a game releases and you can't run it at max settings?

>>712552102
If graphics don't matter why do you hate consoles?

>>712552746
the issue isnt graphics is bad optimization and lazy and greedy behavior
Remember that UE5 was made with the help of Sony, SPECIALLY to run in their consoles first

>>712552831
Every game will run on lower spec hardware if you lower settings. But you don't want to lower them, you want to cry that devs are shit because you want to squeeze 12gb of textures into your 8gb gpu.

>>712552918
>i suck cocks and i love it u CHUD!
Every single time.

>>712553098
>graphics don't matter and devs are shit because I can't run ultra graphics
retard

>Another snoy JIDF thread
Shilling graphics doesnt matter if the games/interactive movies sucks cock

>>712553520
who are you replying to?

>>712535159
Dropping in house engines with all the esoteric quirks and quibbles that took time to onboard new staff and ended up training engine-wizards you'd be fucked without to instead swap to a course-trained universal engine like UE4/5 was a experiment. One that wasn't the sweeping success many a pub/dev were hoping for.
Unfortunately projects move slow and YUGE corporations even slower so we're just now seeing the outcome of a gamble made years ago.

>>712553628
The voices in his head

>>712553719

I think we need to get rid of indians
cancel all temporary visa to start with

>>712552918
Rdr2
Battlefield 1

>>712554394
>every I don't like is indian
lol

>>712554483
You can't run games which run on consoles?

>>712535159

>>712554551
No, they both look and run great on 8gb vram

>>712554498
They make up %86 of the people I don't like

>>712554816
spotted the paki

>>712555364
please go back

>>712545361
So, people who actually know the engine enough to use it properly and even modify it to remove some of the retarded "technology" and or making games the engine was built for in the first place are making bank ...
OK. But none of that is the situation of AAA jeets. So yes, suits are retarded, more news at 11

>>712534908 (OP)
It already is, it's popping alongside the AAA industry. You're borderline retarded when spend so much money on this shit because you still believe in the normalfag audience instead just focusing on creative and innovative gameplay like indies and AA studios. That's why AAA studios keep losing.

>>712546571
He's basically the only one out there, with enough game development knowledge on the higher end of the spectrum and saying the truth.

Normal gamers, and indie devs can basically all be handwaved with arguments like "they're not good enough" or "I'm pajeet suhkdik and I worked on goyslop 5 therefore ur wrong", but they cannot do that to this guy, so they attempt as best they can to do character assassination tactics. Sometimes using their credit in goyslop development like it means anything while the entire argument is that they're so bad at their job they shouldn't have it in the first place.

>>712534972
This

I'm not playing pixelshit

>>712546571
Because he knows how to make a game while the retards spiting him doesn't. It's basically like the old devs kicked out to force their studios to become AAA. Because they knew how to actually make video games, they were forced out and the whining faggots we see today who don't know how to create shit were put in their place. Glad this shit is finally collapsing.

>>712534972
>>712535062
>>712534908 (OP)
Here's your indie devs bro

>>712534908 (OP)
Indie games succeed with shit graphics and low production value because they are usually $20 or less. Graphics absolutely matter if you want to charge $40, $60, or god forbid $80

>>712546217
Aura
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>>712557905
Games nowadays became interactive movies that makes old shit look a million times better.
Again, Sony is to blame for this shit, as the retards shilling vidya as Movies and the new Hollywood.
Not even the 90's were this retarded.