>engineer: can become OP due to poor map design
>is heralded as a perfectly balanced class and one of the most important classes in the game
>sniper: can become OP due to poor map design
>is criticized as a broken, poorly designed class, against the game's design philosophy, and should be nerfed or removed entirely
make it make sense

>>712595143 (OP)
>make it make sense
class formula is inherently imbalanced and a game like quake which gives every player every solution to every problem is obviously superior from a fairness point of view. you don't play tf2 if you want a balanced videogame. you play it for the funniest deaths imaginable

>>712595143 (OP)
>Engineer: Even the worst map design will not make him invulnerable to his several hard counters
>Sniper: even good map design will give him the opportunity to be "OP" against any class besides another sniper

>>712595143 (OP)
an engineer with infinite metal is still less of a nuisance than a good sniper in even modestly sized maps

The Homewrecker is the most egregious weapon of all time. You can be an absolute retard and as long as someone is carrying it your turret is never going to die.

>>712595143 (OP)
sniper is that badly designed of a class that despite how garbage ctf_2fort and cp_dustbowl is, everyone still plays them just because they gimp sniper.

>>712596356
But enough about Soldier and Demoman am i right?

we overcome the 1v1 balance issues with teamwork

>>712596525
You're late.

>>712595143 (OP)
You know what, OP, a broken clock is right twice a day. Fuck Engineer.

>>712595143 (OP)
Engineer can't become OP due to poor map design. He's just a wall that checks if your team is competent enough to push into defended territory.