Thread 712596786

>2025
>stealing a mod from the community and charging $40 for it is now enough
gaming has fallen

>make a mod with a very obvious extension on the Rimworld gameplay
>now that whole basic idea belongs to you forever somehow
>legit nearly every one of those clear avenues to expand the gameplay has been done by some modder at some point, to varying degrees of success
>game's creator can't make any DLC, even if it's more balanced or less buggy, or someone might prefer the official extension, otherwise he's a piece of shit somehow, because some faggot made a mod...

Some of the community for this game are the biggest bunch of retarded pussies, truly. Especially since you can get the DLC for free so easily, or just ignore it and keep using the mod if it's so much better. I don't know if I've ever noticed another community complaining about a DLC because it overlaps with some mod that implemented something that many people thought of and wanted... It's not like it's a really specific idea that no one knew they wanted until some faggot modder dreamt it up

>>712596786 (OP)
I like the fact they're stealing mods. At least when I pay I have a guarantee it wasn't written by a retarded monkey.

>>712596786 (OP)
Mods are made with the dev's code, how can they steal their own shit?
Besides the DLC versions usually have much better code.

>>712598495
mods in rimworld are literally complete programs written in C# that have so much unique code that they're barely using any rimworld code at all; most only have a thin layer that talks to the game.
they're fullblown DLLs

>>712596786 (OP)
All future mods are going to be written around Tynan's application of the mods into the game though. You're kind of fucked.

At least this thing is going to finally support multithreading, and it allegedly loads up to the title screen like 5 times faster. Wonder if the game will finally stop crashing on exit to boot.

>>712596786 (OP)
When are they going to steal the multiplayer mod

>>712596786 (OP)
>>712598119
It's kind of Catch-22 isnt it
If i were the dev of a wildly popular game with strong mod potential i would be interested in co-opting or bringing on modders of the most prominent mods to make it part of the base game. Maybe hire them as contractors or something.
But that in itself would probably open a huge can of worms, either by fucking with the mod community and their egos and the dev being accused of playing favorites or some shit, or maybe outright legal issues.
So maybe don't touch that and just re-invent the wheel with your own DLC that just does what was already done anyway, duplicated effort and all..

I dont know how you solve that

>>712599617
That sounds unplayable. I'm always pausing so I can micromanage. Melee combat isn't even doable without stopping the action to reposition/retarget with every pawn.

>>712599858
Paying them for their work or hiring the community is definitely a dangerous game. You can't know the backstory of the mods, who stole what code from whom, and the messy litigation that comes from them thinking that money is rightfully someone else's.
This is probably the optimal solution.

>>712596786 (OP)
>Properly integrating a bunch of high quality mods that naturally fit the game, but rewriting them to be better suited to the game's source code, along with improving upon many of its quirks, is le bad
You make it sound like they're selling Save Our Ship 2 as is for 40 bucks

>>712596786 (OP)
It doesn't matter how much shit they add to it, the game will never be fun until they change the literal crybaby colonists and the completely irrational human cannon fodder raids.

>>712599945
I've been playing with the no pause mod for the last 7000 hours
Also you can pause in multiplayer just fine

>>712598119
honestly, shit like those examples are why I have grown to really dislike 'mods' and especially moding communities in general.
like, I hate to use the word entitled, but mod communities are some of the most entitled groups in gaming.

like, whether its stuff like bethesda's mod community acting like the fallout/elder scrolls games are unplayable trash without the 'essential' mods or stuff like in OP's post where they get angry as devs for adding stuff similar to mods, its all just unpleasant to be around.

>>712596786 (OP)
wait until you find out bout Vintage Story

>>712600243
skill issue

>>712596786 (OP)
you can't steal a mod. the mod is stealing the game's assets!

>>712600360
That's back asswards. You'd hate the concept of modifying games because people engaged in heavily online activities act like faggots?
>b-but you have to get mad and flip the table and leave whenever people are faggots about something you like
No, fuck off retard

>>712599423
Really? Thank god, my biggest problem with the game was that how long it took to launch with mods

>>712596786 (OP)
>steals your mods
>removes the retarded bloat
>runs better than the mod
>optimizes the fun elements
>make it canon, meaning all other mods HAVE to develop with compatibility in mind
sounds based to me

>>712600124
not only that, but then every other mod dev who added things remotely similar to stuff to future content would be demanding some form of credit or compensation
>>712600213
ye, Save our Ship is a cool and extremely well done mod, but every time I use it, I barely actually touch the mods content, just simply because its an EXTREMELY endgame focused mod even with the starts that are meant to get you started early on the mods content.
meanwhile the DLC's ships so far, are looking to be something you can jump into using relatively early

>>712600324
>Also you can pause in multiplayer just fine
That would feel like slamming into the safety bar of a rollercoaster over and over again if anyone else can pause your game for you.
>I've been playing with the no pause mod for the last 7000 hours
What in the world advantage is there to never pausing except forcing you to cope with lots of bad outcomes? It takes so damn long to train your pawns, I'd never be OK with that or ironmanning a run.

>>712600776
Yeah, we see some really small ships in the screenshots, so I'd be not at all surprised that you're supposed to take to the stars fairly early in a playthrough.

>>712600360
It's mostly due to modding attracting some of the worst narcissists imaginable. Modding itself is, or at least was, random people coming up with fun or useful changes to a game they enjoy. To those narcissists however, modding is a correction of how things should be or how others should interact with it. Throw in a unhealthy portion of autism and good old transgender delusions and you get the average "vibrant and creative" modding community.

>>712600720
Honestly, if you make a kickass mod that even the dev thinks is so cool it's worthy of an expansion, I'd just be honored. Modding was never supposed to pay out and people make mods knowing it's not going to result in a paycheck. This isn't something you discover the moment a dev takes your idea into consideration.

>>712599108
>full blown DLLs

>>712600929
>That would feel like slamming into the safety bar of a rollercoaster over and over again if anyone else can pause your game for you.
usually multiplayer in a game like this = playing with friends which means you usually are co-ordinated.

for example when I use the multiplayer mod once we got a decent amount of pawns, one of us would focus on the base, while another focused on caravans

>>712601169
>>712601225
What if a Dev was an active member of the community but stated outright, with disclaimer and all, that he reserves the right to totally hijack and use concepts of mods or even concrete mechanics of mods that serve the abstract concept, and the most they will get is not monetary compensation but a credit in-game?
Just a total warning-label or disclaimer made at the inception of the game's release stating 'this is whats gonna happen, you were warned lol'

>>712596786 (OP)
I'm interested in seeing how it's implemented, I said the same goddamn shit about biotech being a smorgasborg of stolen mods but now it's hard to imagine playing rimworld without that expansion

>>712601561
You can't go around admitting "THIS IS WHERE I GOT THE IDEA" or you risk people taking you to court. Everything nice you'd like to do for someone is bound to be damning in a court setting, unfortunately.

>>712596786 (OP)
Ayo the dlc is 40 usd? Wtf? Ngl, it's getting ridiculous

>>712598119
if you make a $40 update that feels like a $0 mod then theres something wrong

>>712600360
>>712601169
I think the reason is even simpler. Modding is, or at least was, a pursuit not motivated by financial gain. Instead what modders end up craving is recognition and fame, which ends up bloating their egos.

>>712596786 (OP)
wait they incorporated the space mod into the base game??

fuck yeah

when will they do it with the water and higene one?
i aways have problems with getting the space mod and the hygene mod to work toggether

>>712602087
ongod no cap? frfr SHEEEEEESH

>>712603995
Every mod is going to be made to be compatible with 1.6. Even popular abandoned ones will probably be picked up and patched by other people, that tends to be how it goes.

>>712598119
This is one thing I hate about modders
They're so obsessed with getting credit, so if a mod depends on another it can't just be packaged together into something easy and simple to download, no, that would take away a download count on that snowflakes mod page
But at the end of the day who gives a shit if some little part was made by Xx_CuckPornEnjoyer69_xX? Nobody.

>>712606227
That's the nice thing about steam workshop. You can cite someone else's mod as a dependency and users will even get a popup telling you you'll need to grab theirs too. You won't rob them of a download, you'll in fact give them one. It's a pretty good system.

>>712599423
IS IT REALLY GOING TO HAVE MULTITHREADING FINALLY??
I'M BUYING THE BOOOOOOOK

>>712602156
Bitch, you only think that way because you're used to mods being free. Rimworld has dozens retardedly huge mods that in any other game could easily be paid DLC.

>>712596786 (OP)
Odyssey will just introduce more bloat.
RimWorld is fundamentally not a roleplaying game and should be treated explicitly like a base defence game.
A spaceship sounds cool until you realize that it's practically just a cheat mod.

>>712601561
That's already in the Rimworld EULA, sans the credit part and that's prob because of the potential legality.

>>712610204
You are retarded, anon. Base defense on its own is just about the most boring part of the game because the second you try to master it you realize that the best way to win is just to abuse the subpar AI.

Base defense only has any value in combination with the roleplay aspects, as there's no reason to care about the raids unless you're invested in the stories of your colonists, the long-term development of your base, and whatever thematic gimmick or goal you're pursuing that run..

>>712610658
>Base defense on its own is just about the most boring part of the game because the second you try to master it you realize that the best way to win is just to abuse the subpar AI.
Then don't use exploits.

>Base defense only has any value in combination with the roleplay aspects,
The game has no real roleplay aspects.
It is purposefully deprived of any immersive experience that other developers would have usually provided at this point of the game's development.
Tynan explained this barebones approach in a talk in front of other game developers, this is not controversial.

A true roleplaying game approach would require a much more sophisticated social system, perhaps one where you could choose how to communicate and what to say.
It could also require persistent NPCs who you can interact with, e.g. when you're visiting a site, you can talk to, befriend, recruit, pickpocket townspeople.

RW doesn't do much to simulate aspects that are actually essential to the roleplaying experience.

>>712599858
>modders of the most prominent mods to make it part of the base game. Maybe hire them as contractors or something.
That is LITERALLY, exactly how OP's picture came to be.
He hired the guy who made a bunch of mods as a contractor to build them in a less janky format as part of vanilla, and OP is seething about it.

>>712611332
I've seen a few people claim this but have seen no proof of it so I call bullshit until proven otherwise

Am still getting filtered by this game but it looks so fun... Even prepare carefully doesn't sooth the pain

>>712598119
Sims 4

>>712601667
Biotech's gene system is literally unique in the way that you can finally impregnate those ayys and make fucked up human-mouse hybrid

>>712602156
>I read marketing and feel something based on assumption

>>712611332
The modder he hired is Oskar btw, and all he did is contribute to <10% of the art assets used in biotech

>>712613441
what's giving you issue?

>>712596786 (OP)
next dlc is official rimjobworld?

>>712614642
Balancing building with research and farming. While am scrambling for time my medic usually gets fucked up by rats or dumb events of animals precisely gunning for you

>>712615069
You don't want to fight manhunter swarms out in the open, have your a melee colonist stand behind a held open door so the animals are funneled through the door way and have to engage your colonist one at a time instead of swarming them.

>all the modding guides are wildly outdated
>can't reverse engineer half the mods because it's all complied code
I wanto mod so badly bros but all the good stuff is locked behind knowledge nobody is sharing

>>712616683
am half joking but couldn't AI help you here?

>>712616792
I've looked into it but it'll just invent tags and defs out of nowhere

>>712598119
cuck

>>712596786 (OP)
>tfw you are such a master thief that you steal not only the mod idea, but its developers too

>>712600720
this
considering this nigger never does actual good sales for the game i'm just gonna pirate this

>>712616683
join the discord :^) post your dick in DMs for the link :^)
i hate discord

Fucking excited
Can't wait to conquer entire ethnicities and turn all their girls into sex slaves

>>712616683
https://rimworldwiki.com/wiki/Modding_Tutorials

first link in google

>>712617971
damn ratkin... taking the form of children... xenotype correction needed ! !

>>712616683
>the forums have everything you need!
>look inside
>nearly 10 year old guide pinned
>doesn't work
I'm never going to figure out dll modding...

>>712618084
>(upcoming)
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if your doing anything more complicated than an XML mod the wiki is fairly unhelpful

>>712617971
I pity your life

>>712614865
Thank god. I bet Tynan could do a sex update a hell of a lot better. Every feature added by RJW makes me cringe, like seeing "used condoms" when randomly scrolling the food menus.

any good mods for human experiments? want to do a mad scientist run

>>712596786 (OP)
Didn't they already do that with biotech?

>>712596786 (OP)
>>stealing a mod from the community and charging $40 for it is now enough
But that's the entire valve business model.

>>712616683
what's badly needed is a well made modding series that walks you through creating mods with the various techniques
there's a hot commodity for you YouTube types

>>712618089
I prefer these cunnies
(Shella's backgrounds mod for those interested btw. He also has mods to add these as xenotypes)

>>712596786 (OP)
>>stealing a mod
He only "stole" mods from some incompetent tranny goons that couldnt even get their shit togheter after literal years.
I hope he picks up androids next, we need actual competent modders

>>712599108
>mods in rimworld are literally complete programs written in C#
is this why they run like shit and kill your TPS?

>>712596786 (OP)
I could give less a fuck about mod absorption.

What I give a fuck about is the fact I haven't played rimworld in like 4 years because I ain't paying the 80+ dollars for the expansions on a game I might have played if they were just cheaper.
I already supported your team buying the game, why am I being punished?

>>712617971
I'm gonna make a slave raiding ship and call it the Rape Rocket

>steals your mod
>makes it not retarded
>makes it compatible
>makes it canon
>makes it child friendly
>sells it for 20 usd
How do you respond without sounding mad?

>>712619917
>>makes it child friendly

Rimworld is mediocre anyway.
Tower defense combat kills it.

I'd rather play Dwarf Fortress or Songs of Syx.

>>712619967
>Dwarf Fortress
what is this, 2003?

>>712598119
Wow Tynan maybe you could have done something novel that your entire community was begging for, like, I don't know, expand diplomacy and the overworld?

>>712620065
Don't be silly there aren't any mods that do that yet

>>712620006
Akschully, the Steam version is pretty recent.
And it's not like DF will ever be finished anyway. It will keep adding features until Tarrn Adams dies.

Does this guy ever discount lower than 30%?

>>712596786 (OP)
>2025

>>712600360
>fallout/elder scrolls games are unplayable trash without the 'essential' mods
Yea
They are shit with them as well

>>712596786 (OP)
>make a mod
>it conflicts with every other mod in existence
>make a dlc
>modtroons are forced to make their mods compatible with the dlc

>>712620436
that's a good thing thoughbeit

>>712598119
disingenuous faggot

>>712620551
>no rebuttal

>>712619887
I'm quite sure you can use pirated DLCs on top of your legitimate copy on Steam

>>712620736
DLCs quite literally are just mods you put in the DLC folder. That's it.

>>712598119
I swear this is the only site that complains about this sort of thing, don't even think I've seen modders complain

>>712596786 (OP)
Valve did it first
Factorio did it last

>>712619967
DF and Syx provide fundamentally differente experiences. RW is special in that regard in that you exert direct control over individual colonists, all of which are treated like actual people, rather than resources.

>>712618287
Cry me a river shitskin retard.

>>712620921
I mean the control of military dwarves is pretty similar to Rimworld pawns.
And the dwarves in DF also have personality, skills, quirks, relations etc.

>>712617971
Well said Anon.
But how long will it take for all the RJW shit to get updated?
This DLC looks bigger than the last one.

>>712621653
rjw desperately needs stat counting for colonists

>>712609334
no just parts of it

>>712621730
What do you mean by that?

>>712616683
>modding video
>2 hours long
>dullest, slowest voice you've ever heard
>goes on 10 minute irrelevant tangents
>3 years old, wildly out of date
PLEASE I AM BEGGING FOR A VAGUELY UP TO DATE GUIDE ON HOW TO C# MOD JESUS CHRIST

>>712601667
>smorgasborg
the term is smörgåsbord you philistine

>>712596786 (OP)
Paradox has been doing that for years, why care?

>>712619967
Dwarf fortress is a city builder first and foremost, Songs of Syx is Dwarf fortress with less autism and prettier visuals and better warfare

Meanwhile Rimworld pretends to be a DF clone, but once you look into it you realize that it was actually The Sims the entire time, which elevates it a lot because its the only game that emulated and innovated on its formula well in 20 FUCKING YEARS OF AUTISTIC REALISMFAG ATTEMPTS

>>712624754
>20
*25

>>712621159
>I mean the control of military dwarves is pretty similar to Rimworld pawns.
No, it really isn't, and that's not what I meant. You can give individual pawns direct orders by right-clicking on workbenches and blueprints.
In Dwarf Fortress, you can only move squads, and those squdas obviously spread around nearby tiles. It's not comparable.

>>712622145
think of the typical ero game and how the characters always have a sexual experience sheet

biotech is the only semi-good dlc
i wish gene system was more advanced and half of the content didnt cater to furries

>>712599423
>future mods
thats awfully naive of you

>>712625095
I wish the gene editing UI wasnt dogshit when you try to make a semi-complex xenotype, and you could also set up genderlocked genes so that you could have a proper hive colony where every female is born as a designated egglayer with a long timespan while every male is born a roided warrior that withers quickly while being the same xenotype.
There are mods that try to fix that, right?

>>712624754
rimworld is rimworld. fuck off with all this retarded x is y but z is more y therefore v
moron

Does this expansion finally make the game more than a tower defense? What's that? It's just SOS2 but without the space part? Oh okay

>>712596786 (OP)
Modding isn't a right, it's a privilege. Buy my book.

>>712624754
i seriously perplexed by what similarities do you see between df and syx

>>712616990
I think google has an option here you can upload a file Gemini can pull from to create code. Maybe if you can decompile the core.dll and feed that into Gemini it will be able to shit out proper code for you

>>712625331
Each citizen being a unique person but still being completely autonomous outside of warfare
The logistics system being quite indepth
The scale your city can go for
Tantrum spirals

Yeah syx is closer to stuff like Pharaoh and Zeus but saying its not similar to DF in its mechanics at all would be disingenous at best.

>>712624754
Songs of Syx is rimworld in how its designed, where the goal is to defeat the developer (and then get your strategy nerfed in the next patch).

>>712625546
i dont know whats unique about them when you cant even assign individual citizens to anything except nobility

>>712596786 (OP)
Do the DLC ever go on discount? I dont think ive ever seen them do so.
Im getting tired of redirecting the GOG installers to my steam folder every time theres an update but i dont want to pay full price for them.

>>712626090
>Do the DLC ever go on discount?
yes, usually when a new DLC releases

>>712626090
>>712626462
usually only a small discount though, don't expect 70% off anytime soon

>>712598119
Boot licking faggot. If they bought the rights to the mod, gave half the money to or just hired the modder it would make sense since it gives the incentive to make content and continuously keep it updated. Why would anyone else want to work for free so a company can swoop in and claim your effort because they saw it was successful? Oh right because they're a boot licking faggot, like you.

>>712626797
you don't even mod

>>712627125
I accept your concession.

>>712599423
>Wonder if the game will finally stop crashing on exit to boot
are you playing with rjw

>>712598119
fpbp

>>712625005
Rjw sexperience has exactly that.

>>712626797
>rights to the mod
lmao

>>712624754
Still not buying your book.

>>712596786 (OP)
who cares when we get the best mod ever made next to wall lights (pbuh) implemented for free

So when is Tynan going to make RJW a paid DLC

>>712627620
bloody finally

>>712627620
>wall lights (pbuh)
Whoever did this is a literal saint.

If i've never played rimworld, what is the best experience? Do i play the base game or should i wait for this latest expansion? Should i start with mod(s)?

>get Biotech
>have access to child-rearing and childhood life stage
>adulthood happens at 13
What does Tynan mean by this?

never modded rimworld, which are the best ones?

>>712627838
The best way to play RimWorld is to try it out vanilla, get annoyed with dying a few times and then spend more time modding it than playing only to end up playing a committed ice-sheet Wild Men (from Tribals Expanded) Randy losing is fun and with no cannibalism if you're looking for a challenge.
>I've literally never made it past a year, but am not giving up now.

>>712627838
base game and add QoL mods as you see fit
once you know how it works mod to fit your preferences

>>712627863
The entirety of Vanilla expanded

>>712627838
If you don't get filtered by the start you'll end up an ice sheet enjoyer like >>712628031

>>712627838
Latest expansion, Odyssey, adds spaceships and shit. You won't get past the first mechanoid raid for a loooooooooong time.
Get it now, Space Cannibalism awaits you!

>>712596786 (OP)
>2025
>be a game dev
>try to bring a new feature into your game
>community whines because some bozo already made the feature
God you people are sad. I love mods and modders like the next guy but you people suck their dick like they're the second coming of Christ

>>712627303
>are you playing with rjw
No, it bogs my game down more than any other mod it's insane. I care about having 200 more TPS more than some gooner shit

>>712627863
every big and small mod

I hope this DLC is where Tynan actually adds some cross DLC content, like new xenogerms related to surviving in the vacuum of space or giving you flight, new psycast powers or ways to power them up, more ideology memes related to space travel or the new biomes, etc

>>712627125
I do mod and my benefit is that I don't take donations, so if the dev implements my shit I'm happy because now I don't have to maintain my mod for feature I and the community wants
Only modders who take donations and based their livelihood around SOMEONE ELSE'S PRODUCT have a problem with devs taking modders' stuff

>>712628343
Didnt he already add crossDLC content in biotech after everyone complained and decided to throw away the "Im not going to add crossDLC content because it would be paywalling parts of a DLC behind other DLC" mindset?
There's definitely going to be some genes. Actually, the steam post even has some examples now that i remember it.

>>712628343
>psycast powers
It's so sad because psycasts are the single most disappointing feature in the game right now, without mods

>>712628343
only cross dlc thing thats apparent from looking at the beta files is that it comes with a new xenotype

>>712628453
Nevermind, that was the changelog for 1.6
But there is definitely some genetic fuckery coming

>>712628484
Only fags play with psys. True gigachads literally never do research and only steal and pillage their way out of the Rim.

>>712598119
>you must pay the 1% for work they haven't done
Nah
>nearly every one of those clear avenues to expand the gameplay has been done by some modder at some point
Then take the hint and make a different game
>he's a piece of shit somehow
Because he's charging money for something somebody else has done. It's no coincidence that weekend /v/ is bootlicker /v/

>>712627620
best mod was replace things but he implemented it half assedly, for example you cant replace sleeping spots with beds

>>712628343
My personal wish is dryad adjustments or improvements
We got mechanoid goods in Biotech that added some precepts to Ideology
Anomaly got the ghouls in addition to 2 full Ideology memes and some precepts as well,
and animals and insects will be getting a massive touch-up in Odyssey, especially animals with their training improvement and adding abilities and shit
Dryads are left to dry out. Even the new serums from Anomaly like Juggernaut don't work for them.
Maaan I love dryads but fuckkk. I hope the next previews show more integration between expacs like you said.
(Also I love faeries. Especially bratty Breath of Fire faeries)

>>712628594
>somebody else has done
Have they?
SOS2 is absolute dogshit, it barely works and when it does it slows the game down to no end, not to mention that the thing it adds, space ships, is a fun little novelty for a few hours at best and then it gets boring and you go back to normal gameplay. I'll take back what I'm saying if Tynan implements it like utter garbage too but SOS2 could disappear overnight and nobody but the dev's biggest dicksuckers would feel it

>>712600360
>like, I hate to use the word entitled, but mod communities are some of the most entitled groups in gaming.
You could say they are self entitled or have a false sense of self entitlement because it's more accurate since entitled means deserving of something, it's just the kids use it as it's opposite because they're dumb assholes.

>>712601225
By your logic it is OK for other users to steal mods. You did it for free, right? So you can't complain if some admin bans you and claims it as his own. You're retarded if you think somebody who makes a mod doesn't consider it to be theirs

>>712628803
>Have they?
Yes. Hence the thread
The base game with all the expansions is unplayable. Maybe 5-10 hours of fun at most. The idea that the dev can turn around a mod and actually improved is wilful ignorance

>>712628742
When was the last time people even regularly used the dryads and their tree at this point, their power curve has fallen behind so hard over the years it isnt funny

>>712629019
>Hence the thread
Odd, all I see is some dicksuckers whining about a dev whose game has enjoyed international fame and literal unforgettable status

overall his whole design philosophy and principles went down the drain with the release of ideology, and it continues to degenerate. I view current rimworld sort of like fortnite or sims where it stopped being a game and became a store for completely unrelated bullshit.

>>712629089
>dicksuckers
>proceeds to suck the devs dick
Projecting

>>712629193
Recognizing someone's achievement isn't dick sucking, Tynan is plenty a fag for thinking it's a """story generator""", but nice deflection, dicksucker. The modder still won't fuck you.

>>712627838
Coming in blind, go for Vanilla and Royalty, ignoring the rest
If you pirate the whole thing, you can disable sections as needed.
Vanilla gives an idea of what the game is like, and Royalty gives some end-goals to shoot for if you're an objective-oriented dude.

>>712599858
Not hard to solve
Facotrio is a good example, the devs hired a modder with a lot of really popular mods and one really popular one (space exploration) and with his help they created Space Age dlc and the modder still works there while occasionally updating his mods or making new ones in his spare time like a couple of the other devs have.
There is also Valve who have hired modders.

>>712627838
If you absolutely could only buy one DLC it'd be Biotech. If you could buy two, Royalty and Biotech. These a both add the most amount of fun toys you can play with and tons of mods.

I earn the europoor minwage and still can afford the game and all DLCs. I know all you motherfuckers dont have gfs or family so what gives.
Is it genuinely just NEETs on disability shitting it up?

>>712629270
>deflects
>gets a tit for tat comment
>"lol deflection"
Also projection

>>712629036
I used some in my medieval agrarian colony. 80 berries every two days is a pretty nice addition to the stores when the growing season stops.

>>712629420
>y-you're just p-projecting!!!!
I accept your concession

>>712629467
OK

>>712629361
>Is it genuinely just NEETs on disability shitting it up?
Unironically yes

>>712629361
i have a shitload of money to buy it for every anon in this thread and still have enough left to eat and i just dont want to pay if i can
Probably some deep seated ascetic shit in my brain

>>712629036
I always use dryads and tree connection meme so I've definitely used them a lot
Their combat is sad, but if you do happen to get close, Clawers are fucking insane. Get 20+, and you make drop-in raids trivial, surrounding them with Clawers before they leave their pods
But honestly, I find their produce dryads best. Berries output is insane especially if you play on harsh biomes. Same with Medicinemaker - you'll be drowning in medicine, all with one guy needed to prune his tree.
Woodmakers are insane too, especially on places like Extreme desert or frigid biomes except Sea Ice.
I run Tribal, no electricity runs a lot, so having an insane supply of wood to constantly fill coolers, torches, stoves and smithies is insane
But yeah. Hydroponics alone make them obsolete.
Fuckkk Tynan, please at least let me bring them with me on the gravship

>>712629582
>Scroogepill
Thats based, but still different from seething about the nosales and DLC price

>>712629325
Zomboid did the same, but somehow fucked it up. Hiring prominent community modders and then putting them on bug fixes and feature touch ups instead of working on major features.
The exact opposite of what would make sense, as modders are notorious for making big ideas that end up being buggy and unpolished.

$40???
What is wrong with this arrogant fuck this game is NOT good enough to warrant that
>the whole thread is full of paid shills
Do you really hate molders enough to justify $40 for rehashed mods????

>>712629361
That's called saving money for something you want. We all do it

>>712629432
>>712629592
So basically they're only good for niche low tech tribal runs right now

>>712629695
How dare you, he's internationally acclaimed. A man who will not be forgotten in our times

>>712629695
The game is worth as much as you want it to be as its a sandbox game. This DLC is ass though. Instead of something new like faction interactions or colony impact on the world they gave us vehicles and a ship that can't even go into space. SOS3 will inevitably have to happen as Odyssey sure as shit isn't go to do everything SOS2 could. The disappointment people will feel will be palpable when they realize their ship is stuck in orbit and they can't have space battles or travel to other planets.

>>712617971
Holy shit I saw the mod on the workshop but I had no idea it was so deliciously lewd

>>712629704
I sometimes feel like i can afford more than the averahe murrican seeing as how utterly devastated people got about switch 2

>>712629695
>>712629361
>Do you really hate molders enough to justify $40 for rehashed mods????
Just... Pirate it..???

>>712618436
Why is the workshop's search feature so bad?

>>712596786 (OP)
Imagine giving money to this faggot

>>712629592
They don't care about blights, they dont care about toxic fallout (though the pruner still need protection when pruning), they dont care about heat waves and cold snaps, and they dont care about power outtages. Lots to love especially if you have Tree Connection for faster pruning.
By experience though, their trees die to defoliator radius, and I once lost two trees by a Diabolus cannon kek

My main complaints is you can't relocate the tree, you can't bring the fighters on caravans unlike everything else in the game (animals, tamed insects, even fucking mechanoids), the producers don't follow zoning so if they get startled, like if gunshots are nearby, they run like mad chickens and open all doors to try and flee (though they do follow Forbidden doors)
I still love en but fuck man, I wish there was a way to improve them, you know?

>>712596786 (OP)
wrong pic

what tynan should have done is remove the crack from the base game title screen planet because every time i boot it up on my laptop at work it looks like there's a hair on my screen

>>712630139
Kek, thank God I am not the only one who falls for this

>>712629963
the mods flagged as nsfw so you cant see it if you arent logged in or hide that stuff

>>712629709
Yeah pretty much, outside the medicine, since you get some every 2 days per dryad - good if you somehow lose medicine during a really bad fight or outbreak and you can't wait for more
Berries are pretty crazy too if you're using nutrient paste, but it's still worse than hydroponics
But yeah, in the end, simply outclassed by everything
At least the fighters costs 0 wealth if you're managing that

>>712629963
It's steam, all it's search functions fucking suck. It relies on user made tags and users put any fucking bullshit in there because they think they're being funny.

I played the game when it originally released and had lots of fun. Now I get the urge to play every 6 months but then I look at the fuckton of DLC and mods and I get too overwhelmed and decide not to play.

>>712629963
What >>712630298 said
Anyway, here
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2853407446

Nah, fuck this. I'll just keep playing with my 389 mods for another year or two until they all get updated.
I can't lose it over some basic bitch SoS2 copy.

>>712596786 (OP)
Integrating good mods into the game is way better than having all those mods constantly break with updates or have compatibility issues. Charging for it is pretty shit though.

>>712630415
>it's just backgrounds
Holy fucking reddit, who cares. Why do anime trannies care so much about fucking wallpapers, it's unreal.

>>712630565
>Charging for it is pretty shit though.
Eh, it's whatever. I'm still going to pirate it.
40 dollars, however.. Now that's scummy. Make it like 20 so the normies can eat it up.

>>712630610
>Asking why mentally ill fags do mentally ill things
Anon, I...

40 dollars is crazy. This dlc is not adding THAT much. The only dlc that can justify that price tag is biotech.

>>712630610
what exactly were you expecting out of a mod called shellas backgrounds

>>712630739
This. Biotech reinforced the option of having incest relationships, absolutely worth the price.

>>712629860
the redraws for the official art make me kek the most

>>712630760
I just saw the conversation and thought people were talking about some coomer gameplay mod which is fine by me. When I saw it was just about wallpapers I remembered that anime fags are just complete retards who also play gacha and don't care about anything of substance.

>>712630610
search through his other mods so you can find the various custom xenotypes he draw the art for

>>712629709
Yeah, unfortunately. Like the other anon said, clawers can do some silly amounts of damage to damn near anything, but then you're missing out of medicine and food, which are more useful in 98% of situations than having a crowd of bouncers on standby doing jack and diddly for most of the game.

>>712602664
It's the same problem with fan translators, it is always invariably at least partially motivated by a desire to "be the guy", have that e-clout, otherwise why bother
If you can read japanese and play those games already, why bother doing the work of hacking and translating etc for no compensation other than wanting to be known as the guy who did it
Part of it might be your love for the source material, but nobody does it just for that reason
So it's a delicate balance, because youu want those guys to keep doing the work, but you also don't want them to be complete egomaniac tards throwing tantrums and sitting on projects forbyears out of spite and some autistic drama in the community or whatever

Forget Odyssey, 1.6 update is actually fucking awesome. They added multi threading support for a lot of functions. People are getting too caught up on what is otherwise a pretty mid dlc when the actual excitement should be on the 1.6 patch itself.

There are a million ratkin mods. How the fuck do people select mods for this game?

>>712631154
Just pick one that you think looks best or something. Or sort them by their popularity. Just, something.

>>712630874
He's done a great job on designing those
The official art redraws version is one of the few "Lewd replacements for UI graphics" mods i actually ever bothered to use because its very well done

>>712631154
idk i pick a theme for a playthrough and then look for related mods. or sometimes i pick mods and let those dictate the kind of playthrough ima do

>>712630874
>redraws
Anon.. I have news for you. It's AI.
Also why the disgustingly big tits? It would've been hot if she had at least 3 sizes smaller.

>>712631327
>Its AI

>>712628905
>By your logic it is OK for other users to steal mods.
yeah