Thread 712609431

Is magic any good in souls games before Elden Ring? Any wizards who can confirm?

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>>712609482
You just did though. Gottem.

>>712609431 (OP)
Based. Best Haruhi girl.
Yeah. In Dark Souls 1, sorcery and pyromancy are pretty good. Pyromancy used to be top tier but it was patch nerfed.
In DS2 sorcery is okay, pyromancy is a little bad and miracles are utter garbo. Miracles were extremely OP at launch and then were nerfed so hard that using them is basically a challenge run. Hexes are good, though.
Never tried magic in DS3, the game just never clicked with me.
Bloodborne's Hunter Tools actually scale better when your Arcane stat is above 50, making them better to use in NG+ than earlygame.

>>712609431 (OP)
>Sorcery, All Games
Easy mode in Demons, Dark Souls 1, and Dark Souls 2 because you can just sit back and plain away at dues. Dark Souls 3 is to fast got pure Sorcery builds to keep up however.
>Miracles, All Games
Good Support Magic but its offensive capability has always been lackluster outside of pre-nerf lightning in Dark Souls 2
>Pyromancy Dark Souls 1,2,3
Pyro is broken in DS1 because you don't need any real stat investment to get it to scale, instead you just upgrade the flame to boost damage and you have free fire damage regardless of build. In Dark Souls 2&3 they nerfed it so it needs stat scaling but still does the job of big fire damage well.
>Hexes, Dark Souls 2
Sorcery but dark damage and cost Souls to use, PvP bait and was rolled back into the other types in later games.
>Arcane Bloodborne
Tied mainly to items you need to collect through the game, its very fun and strong by the end but nonexistent outside the flamethrower sidearm till halfway through he game.

They're not good in any of the games because the system fundamentally isn't fun with ranged combat

You're just cheating yourself out of the game

>>712609431 (OP)
It's ridiculous in every Souls game yes.
Starting as a Royal in DeS is especially nonsense since you're regenerating MP and able to blast the red eyed knight dead at the start while others would have to sweat to survive.

The only real gap I feel in complete INT domination is the ER dlc since the bosses get spastic unless you use the fastest casting spells and they don't receive as munch content as the other stats. Nightreign immediately returned to form though by making Recluse a monster

>>712610303
All Soulsborne games present the players as a noname shitter and expect the player to use whatever they want to win.
Honorable Knight?
If you can wain then cool
>Guy who cheeses every fight?
A Win is a Win

>>712610446
The only win is whether you had fun

Spamming blue shit at the enemy or especially comete azure 1 shot cheese type shit is less fun than (primarily) melee combat, thus you're choosing to have less fun and enjoyment

I'm not saying magic is OP, I'm saying it's less fun

>>712610684
To you, not for everyone.

>>712610684
The most fun I had in Dark Souls was using the washing pole, ninja flip ring and sorceries. INT+DEX is a fun build.

>>712609431 (OP)
Only in Dark Souls 3
Dark Souls 1 has little variety
Dark Souls 2 gets you cucked by damage resistances in the DLC

>>712610684
Fun is not an argument. We're posting here not playing the videogame.

>>712609431 (OP)
I'm going to cast cum at Yuki

>>712614270
That’s my wife you’re talking about. Cum on Mikuru instead.

>>712614506
no

>>712609431 (OP)
me on the bottom btw

need autistic robot gf

Mikuru seemingly has one fan. Kyon, and no one else.
I never see anyone that likes this girl.

>>712615924
I'm a fan but only for Asahina (forma hag)

>>712615924
She's too much of a doormat

>>712609431 (OP)
>Is magic any good in souls games before Elden Ring?
Good as in efficient/powerful?
Yeah, nobody with a brain would argue that things like Fire Spray or Dark Bead aren't busted.
Good as in fun to use?
Hell no, spells started to get mildly fun to use in DS2 and only in the case of pyromancy/hexes, DS3 had overall everything from Sorcery to Pyromancy be okay, ER is the only game so far where spells are actually fun to use.

Imagine being so lazy, you can't even finish telling a story in 18 years.

>>712616995
I consider the movie to be a soft ending. The anime is better than the books anyways.