Katanabros
Not like this

>>712620328 (OP)
Who thinks katanas are good after 2016 or so? A myth perpetuated by boomers and early weebs.

A katana can slice through a tanks cannon.

>>712620386

>>712620328 (OP)
Katana pride is literally the only thing Japanese got as a semblance of their past as proud warriors, this is why they keep convincing themselves its the ultimate sword and that it can cut through bullets and tanks. Its literally the last thing they have

You twitterniggers need to neck yourself already

>>712620328 (OP)
And yet the katana will always be regarded as the coolest and strongest sword in all of media. European sword fags can do naught but seethe and bring up "historical facts" like a bunch of pencil pushers.

>thulean sorcerer
lol just imagine the kind of person who names themselves that

>>712620328 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAqacVQ-7ZI

>>712620328 (OP)
Katanas can slice through gods and quarks alike, I've seen it in my animes.

>>712620386
fromsloppers

>>712620615
It's Varg Vikernes. I figured everyone knew the lore.

>uhm akhcually that's not REAL sword-fighting
I genuinely think /his/-boos talking about realistic medieval warfare are more insufferable than generic retarded weaboos

>xitter screencap thread
>goddamn varg screencap thread
Gas yourself immediately.

>european swords are bett-

>>712620765
Rip, what a sad way to go

>>712620765
If he had an European smallsword he would be alive

>>712620765
How do I chain Scottsdale Rapes into Perfect Storm after I AA someone?

>>712620613
Excalibur would like to know your location

I got to hand it to the Japanese tho, they got absoultely slaughtered by Mongols in Tsushima, and after that they got their shit straight.
They're pretty much only nation that held them off (but have to remember Kublai Khan got cocky and impatient in his final years).

>>712620328 (OP)
Well, if Thulêan fucking Sorcerer said so...

>>712620765
What kind of a special move is "Scottsdale Rapes"?

>heavy
Is this nigga serious? The whole point is using minimal amounts of highly refined steel because Japan had shit for iron. Any European hand and half weighed twice as much, even more.

>>712620885
>Excalibur
boomer britoid shit
When hollywood or a game needs a cool sword, which would they reach for first?

>>712620765
Didn't this nigga die on a boat while raping a lil' girl?

>>712620941
Newfag

>>712621000
Name a single legendary japanese sword that is not from some anime that lives rent free in the public consciousness like Excalibur does.

it's just a cavalry sabre.

I think this is balanced out by the fact that the English longbow that everyone sucked off is shit compared to the Yumi. We got them reversed.

>>712620328 (OP)
The katana is very aesthetically pleasing

>>712621080
Kusanagi

>>712621080
the katana, it's timeless
while excalibur is an uncool antiquity

>>712621080
the public doesn't even know the difference between the sword in the stone, and the Lake Sword. Hell, I bet you don't know which one is which without looking.

>>712620613
The zweihander would like to know your location.

>>712621037
he saved the girl but lost his katana in the process and drowned while looking for it

>>712620536
i just used it to craft queelag's boss item for the achievement :)

>>712621151
>zweihander
barely used in real fights

>>712620765
>lake gives chad european sword enjoyer a naked lady with a sword
>lake gives virgin eastern sword pleb a violent death beneath the waves to keep him from smashing prime breeding pussy so his tombstone reads "he never scored"

>>712620328 (OP)
I have a feeling this guy is just parroting what he heard other people say on the internet.

>>712621080
the only swords the public even knows about are the mundane, unnamed katana and the excalibur lol

>>712620615

>>712620765
Yes, the Kriegsmesser is basically the katana done right. And it also beats the katana in terms of aesthetics which is the only thing katanas have going for them.
Also, the katana just looks 10 times cooler in the hands of a White man than in an Asian's.

>>712621150
The point is that most everyone knows of Excalibur. Sure, everyone knows what a katana is, but they also most likely know what a european longsword is. Therefore, the east should have a legendary, named weapon that most people all around the world know of, no?

>>712621139
I bet if you polled a hundred people on the street, most would know Excalibur and not know of Kusanagi.

>>712620328 (OP)
katana
>can slice thru flesh with ease ... i guess
arming sword
>can slice
>can thrust
>can have an handguard
>has a pommel that adds balance and can be used to bludgeon people with it
i'm not craftsman, but i bet its also easier to make and maintain

>>712621310
it'll be equivalent if you name a famous Japanese story starring named swords popular in the west, otherwise it's just a false equivalence.

>>712621080
ok but they probably couldn't tell what kind of sword it is

>>712621310
Depends where you poll the people.

In favor of Kusanagi tho, its real - where as Excalibur is not.

>>712621080
>that is not from some anime
Why this restriction? A huge part of why the katana is still popular and highly regarded in popular culture is because it appears in anime, games and whatnot. Saying it doesn't count is simply adding onto your cope.
And if you remove popular culture from the equation then I assure you that even fewer people would know about Excalibur.

What is the gun equivalent of Excalibur?

>>712621409
Did you stop and wonder why the Arthurian legend and, by extension, Excalibur are popular all around the world?

Hint: It's because it's cool as shit

There are plenty of Japanese legends featuring named weapons, but they haven't penetrated into the zeitgeist like the Arthurian legend has.

>>712621080
The Seven-Branched Sword.

>>712621504
nothing to with your cp (anime). it's all about the admiration and fascination for such a sophisticated high culture (and the only one rivalling white culture) with its extrem levels of honour, discipline and duty. and only such a culture could produce a weapon of pure autism like the katana.

>>712621618
Nice dilator, weeb

>>712621407
>has a pommel that can be unscrewed and thrown at your opponent to end him rightly
ftfy

>>712621504
Even if you include anime, I'd still wager money on more people on the streets recognizing the name Excalibur than any named weapon from an anime. And if the poll was done in Japan, the people would most likely recognize both, meaning that Excalibur is known everywhere, whereas the weeb swords are more likely to be recognized only in their country of origin or by niche groups outside of said country.

>>712621280
Who's that? Looks like the kind of person who'd kill his friend or burn churches or something.

>>712620328 (OP)
Japan has no high quality iron sources, katanas look cool but are frail as fuck.
>>712621080
Muramasa.

>>712621618
Could the Japanese truly be retarded?

>>712621310
>most everyone knows of Excalibur
lmao no
nobody in China or Cambodia or Korea knows shit about Excalibur while they would know about the katana
Katana is popular in both the west AND the east
No other type of swords can achieve that

>>712621719
he didnt kill a friend. he killed a gay communist. which makes him a hero. and he was only defending himself anyway.

>>712621080
>that is not from some anime
So excalibur don't count either then, huh?

>>712621785
lol don't you have some dumb pagan cult that died out forty years ago to obsess over?

>>712621785
No one liked him

>>712621080
muramasa?

>>712621825

>>712620328 (OP)
>hecking realism
if you want realism then spears dominated swords
and samurai use gun and bow
things are popular because they looks cool, no one cares about realism

>>712620615
The newfag situation in this board is insane

>>712621809
>hurr durr, Excalibur originated from anime

The average intelligence of a weeb on display. I guess because Ghost of Tsushima features katanas they are western, huh?

>>712621618
>seven-branched sword
>it has 6 branches
What did the Japanese mean by this?
Also, name 5 pieces of pop culture media from Japan that prominently features this thing.
The only time I can remember seeing it is in Samurai Warriors as Uesugi Kenshin's weapon but that's hardly prominent.

>>712621785
>>712621835
>guy who murdered someone said it was in self defense
yeah no shit what the fuck else are you gonna use as a defense in court when you murder someone? There's literally no other option but to claim self defense.

>>712620613
only with anime weebs and vergil fags

>>712621785
>he was only defending himself
Didn't he stab the other guy in the back, like a woman? lol

>>712621715
I will concede that in terms of public knowledge Excalibur would win over something like Muramasa.
Yet despite that recognition it isn't the longsword that is shown cutting through bullets, tanks, and whatnot unless it is Fate which is ironically Japanese. Hence my point that if a story writer wants a sword that does cool shit, they will pick a katana more times than an western sword. Because it has that image firmly ingrained.

>>712621228
And katana was only used to kill some peasants

>>712620613
>will always be regarded as the coolest and strongest sword in all of media
After Excalibur, the Master Sword, Diamond Sword, Keyblade, Breaker Sword and all that.

>>712621771
>No other type of swords can achieve that
Sabres are universally used. Ditto for rapiers and daggers. Honestly, guns are far better than any sword. Gimme a clip so I can do some damage with a based desert eagle brand FAMAS or something.

>>712621928
7th branch is the main blade dummy

>>712620328 (OP)
>muh european sword is better in combat
Yeah, no shit. Katanas look much cooler, though.

>>712621872
oh shit you're like actually a fan of him it's not just a joke lmao

>>712621942
>>712621951
you are gay. opinion discarded

>>712620328 (OP)
If a sword can cut, not instantly break and feels good in the hands then its a good sword. Anyone who says otherwise is a retarded pophistory loving faggot mongrel.

Katana design just looks very sleek and elegant. It doesn't matter if its material is inferior to European metal or design not as good as African / Arabic curved swords.

>>712621987
That doesn't work in the context of swords because the blade isn't referred to as a branch.
Anyways, answer my other question.

>>712621993
Kys newfag. I’d bet anything you’re Indian as well.

>>712621951
Varg claims that someone told him that Euronymous was gonna tie him up and torture him on video. Basically the exact same logic as Israel bombing Iran and calling it a "pre-emptive strike"

>>712621928
>name 5 pieces of pop culture media from Japan that prominently features this thing.
Sekiro, Kemurikusa, Bleach, Okami, Kirby

>>712622086
Oh come on everyone knows there's no one browner than people obsessed with old pagan cults who larp as aryans

>>712621959
Sure, a katana will be chosen for such things. But when a movie wants to denote someone a righteous hero, maybe even imbued with divine power, they will almost exclusively choose an arming sword of some kind.

Then it comes down to which is objectively cooler, action hero shit or DEUS VULT. And that is another can of worms entirely.

>>712622028
And 1000 times folded katanas would still break cause they were made of fucking shit
The last cope I heard was "but they got iron from overseas", fucking poor as shit japs, bought iron, from Europe, my fucking sides.

>>712621771
>nobody in China or Cambodia or Korea knows shit about Excalibur
Huh?
They fucking love European mythology.
There's so many fucking asian stories where they re-use stuff like that it's crazy.
Hell isn't Fate, one of their biggest things, just ripping off European history?
The main girl is literally Arthur with Excalibur.

>>712622149
>Bleach
I don't even remember it being featured once let alone prominently so I will considering you full of shit.

>>712621909
I never said that it originated from anime, retard.

>>712621692
ancient reddit

>>712621037
you're trying to talk like a nigger but they don't use apostrophes

>>712620613
Yup.

People who hate the katana will forever be mad that their sword isn't as cool as the katana.

>>712622303
You implied it by bringing it up. Anyone with a modicum of common sense could have inferred that the Excalibur that is being referred to is the one from the Arthurian legend, not any knock-off media.

Or worse yet, maybe you did infer that and still decided to post that drivel.

>>712622203
my dad ain't know shit about Excalibur or King Author or Fate dude
And Fate is not even that popular here for, we mainly watch/read Doraemon (as a kid) or the new shounenshit

>>712621928
>6 branches
lmao retard

>>712620328 (OP)
Katanas had no chance against anyone that had any sort of armor. If japan would've ever faced against europein any time of history they would've been bodied so hard nobody would ever know they existed

>>712621210
Kino

>>712622203
>isn't Fate, one of their biggest things, just ripping off European history?
More Mediterranean than European, to be honest.
>European Servants
Saber (King Arthur), Lancer (Cu Chulainn)
>Mediterranean
Berserker (Heracles), Caster (Medea), Assassin (Hasan-i Sabbah), Archer (Gilgamesh), Rider (Medusa)
>Asian
Assassin (Sasaki Kojirou), Archer (EMIYA)

>>712622480
still, they needed 2 nukes to be beaten into submission and some soldiers kept fighting like 25 years after the war.

The Arthurian legend is literally taught in schools as part of world mythology in most parts of the civilized world. Meanwhile, the same can only be said of Journey to the West for asia, and the only real takeaway weapon from that is a goofy size-changing staff.

>>712622203
also I grew up watching Chinese dramas and they are all about their kungfu, dynasty, cultivation shit.
Western mythology aren't referenced much like in Japanese media

>>712622184
>fucking poor as shit japs, bought iron, from Europe, my fucking sides.
they didn't brought shit, portugal, france, great britain and the USA was bringing it to them in attempt to colonize the country and make merchant threaty with the imperial court, they even bringed in guns and artillery from europe to them

>>712622542
Oh I'm sure those katanas would've sliced nukes in half
Retard

>>712620765
I lost the vergil edit of this that had his movelist in the side bar

>>712621228
what are the Italian Wars

>>712622553
>The Arthurian legend is literally taught in schools as part of world mythology
Do brits really think this? I assure you there was no fucking segment about Arthurian legends in my curriculum as a snownigger.
>inb4notthecivilizedworld

>>712622437
>>712622554
Junior...

>>712620328 (OP)
I'm sorry but I don't listen to snowniggers that love BBC. There's a reason he likes Turkroaches and his fan being desperate wewuzing Turkroaches mostly.

Creatures like him hating on the katana just makes me like the katana more.

>>712620765

>>712622553
>The Arthurian legend is literally taught in schools as part of world mythology in most parts of the civilized world.
No? It's Classical Greek epics, Rome, maybe a touch of Near East, Vedas and China if you're extra cultured.

>>712622554
>>712622667

>>712622654
Not him but in my country they taught these in history classes for the most part
>Greek mythology + history
>Roman mythology + history
The brit shit with Arthur was really just in French classes because teachers would make us read about Lancelot and Arthur and all that.

>>712622480
samurai armors were also made of steel but katanas were mostly kept as side weapons by their soldiers while the lords kept them as self defense weapons when the enemies would come close to them, also the armor they wore only used thin sheets of steel to protect them against slashes and blunt weapons, anything pointy would go through and make a wound

>>712622654
Another snownigger here. We had an entire segment of a history class dedicated to different mythos' around the world, and the Arthurian legend was the first one we took a look at.

does anyone have that vid where HEMAchad demolishes katanafag "master" in a sparring? Seen it here years ago

Anyone old enough and been on 4chan long enough to remember this anime airing? And how much shitposting it was responsible for?

>>712622736
>vedas
>china
>taught in schools
let me guess, canada?

>>712622553
>taught in schools
Nigga we watched the sword in the stone after finals, because in America you still have weeks of school left after finals because spics can't afford to hire baby sitters. That was the only time he was ever mentioned.

>>712622553
Balkanoid here. No Arthur. Just Greek gods, their Roman knockoffs and Egyptian gods were taught here.

>>712622887
Nope, Greek. The cultural peak of India and Greece coexisted, and Alexander's influence spread far, so we get a lot of context for Persia, India, Egypt etc.
It helps that history lessons are hard focused on antiquity and parts of the medieval era, aside from a brief 1800-1945 window we're taught little about anything post ~1000, because it's been nothing but a millennium of suffering.

>>712622860
Maybe my school was just boring but I don't even remember having Norse mythology. It was all just religion slop, greek and roman history slop, WW1 and WW2. If we did go over mythology it must have been brief as fuck.
My first encounter with the Arthurian legend was most likely the Disney "Sword in the stone" movie. And the most I remember from that is Merlin being a funny old man rather than Excalibur being cool. And well the squirrel girl.

>>712620536
My beloved...

>>712621618
>>712621757
>>712621928
That's a Korean ceremonial sword gifted to Japan.

>>712620328 (OP)
>it’s a glorified sharpened iron rod
that’s literally all swords though

>>712623082
>No norse mythology in a nordic school

Wait what? We went over arthurian, celtic, norse, greek, chinese and egyptian mythoses iirc.

Could be that I just lucked out and we had an extra rad teacher who was allowed to choose what he teaches.

>>712622881
The only shitposting this anime ever caused was this girl becoming used goods or some shit

>>712621092
Not quite if we take the standard katana as in uchigatana. The tachi was the cavalry sabre and the changes between it and uchigatana are in big part due to a shift from a cavalry weapon to a gentleman's sidearm. It looks pretty different, but in a way it's closer to a claymore or a smallsword by function.

>>712621604
>why the Arthurian legend and, by extension, Excalibur are popular all around the world?
Disney cartoon for kids. Disney was brainwashing kids around the world since the Cold War. That's why everyone knows about Mulan and the Huns. The Disney movie is more popular than Atilla the Hun.

Ask somebody about King Arthur and they'll tell you he pulled the sword out of a rock. Nobody knows it was actually Lady of the Lake.

Nobody knows what Excalibur or Arondight look like. Everybody knows how a Katana looks like.

>>712622772
Greek mytho is probably the most popular one in the world, almost every country teaches it in school

>>712620328 (OP)
Don't care, still one of the coolest weapons.

>mfw my only encounter with arthurian legend in my youth was this cartoon where i thought "why can't these retards pull a sword out of a rock"
lul

>>712623351
If we did have mythos in there it was likely covered briefly during each class of its respective culture. Kinda wish we had dedicated mythos classes but then again this is 15+ years ago so I could very well just have forgotten what we did study.

>>712623556
>It's brainwashing when it's western media, it's organic adoption when it's eastern media!

You like katanas for the same reason you shit-talk the reason people know about Excalibur, only the mouthpiece is different.

>>712620615
>>712620721
He changed his name from thulean perspective ? Also he's a bit old for the chuuni phase..

>>712623734
Not my fault my parents let me watch Kill Bill as a kid.

>>712623404
No. Every time this gif was posted, there were a billion posts immediately shitting on Katanas with ironic shitposting every single day. It went on for fucking months.

Which is why this was created.

>>712623610
Now that I think about it, I did go to primary school in the early 90's, so it probably stands to reason that curriculums have changed quite a bit since then. It's a bummer if they have, because learning about mythology made history class one of my favorite subjects and I pity the kids of today if all they have are dry lectures about the world wars and stock market crashes.

>>712620613
It's a curved, thin ass sword with a simple looking hilt, I always thought it looked so fucking ugly and boring.

>>712623792
>Also he's a bit old for the chuuni phase..
The only reason anyone ever becomes a neo nazi is because they never grew out of the chuuni phase

>>712621809
It was real before Fate.

>>712624039
True. They're all like those dudes from hellsing.

>>712623556
>Ask somebody about King Arthur and they'll tell you he pulled the sword out of a rock. Nobody knows it was actually Lady of the Lake.
There's no canon for it though.

>>712620765
>V wielding Satori

You can't expect to wield supreme power because some watery tart threw a sword at you!

>>712620328 (OP)
Halberd is the best sword

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon)
1d12 Damage
19-20 x4 Crit
+2 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon)
2d10 Damage
17-20 x4 Crit
+5 to hit and damage
Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

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>>712623906
Theoretically could it be possible actually make a sword that's sharp enough to cut another sword in half if both were swung at each other?

>>712624341
pasta or retarded

>>712624341
Been a long time since I've seen this pasta.

European swords look WAY better and has some function against armor so they are automatically way better since they aren't made to kill civilians.

>>712624403
Theoretically anything is possible. But with our current technology? No. Not if they're using similar materials. A sword break doesn't count as that just means it was crafted to specifically break or was crafted by an amateur.

>>712620328 (OP)
Weren't japanese swords just for show and they actually fought with spears? T. historylet

>>712624915
swords were siderarms everywhere

bows > spears > maces > swords

>>712624915
Not just for show, but yes in battle they used spears.
Swords were policing weapons.

>>712622182
Sean Connery used a fucking Katana in Highlander you fucking mong.

>>712624915
>>712625047
You can't just carry around a fucking spear in society, swords were easier to carry around and showed authority. It's like comparing a pistol to an assault rifle.

>>712620328 (OP)
What would Louis "Kristian Vikernes" Cachet know about swords?

>>712625036
>bows are DOGSHIT in vidya while swords are the default weapon
really makes you think

>>712625252
>An immortal scottish warrior wields a katana

Highlander was beyond retardation

>>712620721
Didn't he changed his name for Louis Cachet or some faggy shit like that? And that he now lives in France and has to beg his wife for money like a giant pussy? This guy is a whack.

>>712620883
he has to be in 12HD stance

>>712625679
Not always, like mount and blade that's not the case.

>>712621618
Thats a cactus.

>>712624429
Whitey has always liked his foreign looking exotic swords, hence the sabre's adoption as a fashion piece even among non-cavalry officers.

>>712625252
And Dennis Quaid used an arming sword in Dragonheart, what's your point? That there are exceptions? Of course there are.

>"Acting like a nigger is okay if you're white" the eceleb

>>712620943
It's supposed to be Scottsdale Rave but the news station mistranslated it.

>>712622553
Not in America lol, know your place angloid

>>712621975
this nigga snuck the keyblade in there and thought nobody would notice

>>712620328 (OP)
This dude is one midlife crisis away from cutting his dick off and claiming that's true European heritage

>>712621928
one of the first 3 ace attorney games

>>712620886
only nation...
Vietnam right below Mongols and beating them 3 times in a row

>>712620615
he also killed his neighbour in cold blood yet is convinced he isnt a degenerate beast

post the BBC tweet