Don't be ridiculous, there are already 4 controllers connected, you can't play

that was the terrible one that had the red ring thing, right?

>>712648725 (OP)
God just let me die already

>>712648725 (OP)
sauce on the qt?

>still not allowed on >>>/vr/
fuck you

I have a soft spot for it due to playing Halo 3 splitscreen in college.

>>712649350
Nothing fundamental has changed.
Games from the end of 7th gen are practically identical to games coming out now aside from the significant decline in quality.

>>712649721
>the significant decline in quality.
Niggas may aint wanna be hearin this but it do be true.

>>712649350
It doesn't matter how many decades pass. Earth Wind and Fire will never be classical music. The same is true of 7th gen consoles and retro gaming.

>>712649721
and?
anon that shit is so old that people who had an xbox360 as their first console have jobs and a family right now
besides during 7th gen aside from specific genres like fps there was room for weird games and experimentation and there were a bunch of new IPs, late 7th gen essentially streamlined most genres into the snoy template, linear moviegames and the same fps games from 2007
7th gen consoles deserve their spot on /vr/

>>712648725 (OP)
Imagine being the one Japanese who bought an Xbox/Xbox360 and your only options for online games are poor latency matches with Australians and Americans.

The Xbox is such a shit brand.

>>712648921
And yet it was still the best console Microsoft ever made.

>>712649669
The 360 is still the best console for splitscreen gaming.

>>712649895
nope
widely accepted as retro
just because a vocal minority on the chud anime forum is acting so contrarian about it it doesn't mean that everyone else should do the same

>>712649919
What does an Xbox 360 have in common with an NES? Does it have more in common with an NES than a Series X does?

>>712648725 (OP)
why do they call it the xbox 360?

>>712649994
>best console Microshit ever made
That’s not much of a complement.
>>712650107
*red rings two hours after purchase*

>>712650276
Why would anyone use gamestop as an authority for anything? They just say shit to justify price gouging. I'm sure they'll make the Xbox One retro soon so they triple the price of all their used games.

>>712650434
>Why would anyone use gamestop as an authority for anything?
Retarded faggots like that anon because his grasping at straws to justify his bait.

>>712650291
>What does an Xbox 360 have in common with an NES?
nothing? what kind of question is that
it's tech from two different eras in two distinct moments of the development of the video game industry, it's pointless to compare them
>Does it have more in common with an NES than a Series X does?
early 7th gen has more in common with 6th gen
late 7th gen has more in common with later generations
you can't cut in the middle, as I said 7th gen is different enough to warrant a spot, even if the difference is not as big as it was before
>>712650434
>Why would anyone use gamestop as an authority for anything?
you have a better one?

>>712650416
>*red rings two hours after purchase*
All the consoles that were gonna red ring have already died by this point. All that's left are the ones with the fixed GPUs that don't have that problem. Sure that was a problem for early adopters in 2006, but we live in the present. And in the present, if you wanna play shooters with your friends in person, the 360 is the best way to do it.

>>712648725 (OP)
>didn't power it on for 10+ years
>won't connect to the internet through the ethernet cable
>won't read discs
sad

>>712650616
There are 2008 Xbox360’s which still red ring today, more than 16 years after production, meanwhile a 25 hear old PS2 runs just as well today as it did the year it was made.

Shifting fans around doesn’t change the fact that the Xbox is a poorly designed console, and its design team didn’t cooperate with its hardware engineers.

>>712650589
>it's tech from two different eras in two distinct moments of the development of the video game industry, it's pointless to compare them
It has a point when you're trying to retroactively put them in the same category of "retro". If the 360 has nothing in common with the NES then they should not share a category. Retro is an era that extends from the Magnavox Odssey and Pong to the Playstation and N64 because they share the same traits of being designed for offline usage on analog televisions, with poor or no 3d support. PS2, Dreamcast, Gamecube and OG Xbox get thrown in there because they were a transitional period. The 360 is made in the same style as modern consoles with all the same features. So it is part of the modern era.

>you can't cut in the middle, as I said 7th gen is different enough to warrant a spot, even if the difference is not as big as it was before
6th gen is barely different enough to warrant a spot. If we keep extending the definition then that means we'll also have to include the Xbox One. Why not? It has so much in common with the 360. And then why not include the Series X too? After all it has so much in common with the Xbox One. Retro has to stop somewhere.

>you have a better one?
My own intuition. Don't rely on outside sources to define the world for you. It should be easy enough for you to discern which thing goes in which category yourself.

I agree that the 360 is different from current gen consoles, but its also decidedly not similar to the consoles of the 20th century. So it needs its own category, one that doesn't include consoles like the NES, Genesis, and Playstation.

>>712650897
The RROD was caused by faulty GPUs, not fans. Starting in 2008 Microsoft switched to a new GPU, one which wouldn't develop fractures in the silicone from regular usage. Once the GPU was replaced the RROD problem was solved. They didn't even need the new fans, which is why they went back to small fan in later revisions. Even early 360s that got refurbished on or after 2008 still work.

>>712649819
>Niggas may aint
English, please?

>>712650654
Have you tried cleaning it? There could just be dust on the laser and in the ports.

>>712651495
>If the 360 has nothing in common with the NES then they should not share a category
niether does the ps2 but it's included
>hare the same traits of being designed for offline usage on analog televisions
ps3 has analog output and is totally usable offline
besides they are not supposed to share characteristics, because by this logic every console generation should have been the same and we would still play 16 bit games with retarded looking controllers
>if we keep extending the definition then that means we'll also have to include the Xbox One
no?
as you said yourself, it's too similar and the difference is blurred, you can include one but not the others, 8th and 9th gen consoles are pretty much the same thing, 7th gen consoles have distinct characteristics that newer consoles don't have
>Retro has to stop somewhere.
yes, at 7th gen consoles, until the new thing drops
besides, how else is it supposed to work? as soon as ps6 drops and it's different enough from ps5 we should consider it retro right from that moment?
some time still has to pass, and for 7th gen that time has already passed and it's very well established in which ways it's not similar to new consoles in either hardware or software
>My own intuition
I don't trust your intution, I trust facts as I presented them to you
>Don't rely on outside sources to define the world for you.
you don't have to rely on it and even agree with it but that outside source still can have an impact
>I agree that the 360 is different from current gen consoles
yeah
>but its also decidedly not similar to the consoles of the 20th century
and in fact it shouldn't be, tha's the whole point
>So it needs its own category,
well what do you suggest then? splitting /vr/ in two? well that retro-retro part will be the same as /vr/ while the 6th-7th gen consoles will be a mix of retro games such as gta5, dead space, the last of us and ps2 classics
your own intuition should already tell you that it sounds like a mess

>>712648725 (OP)
I hate living and I regret not killing myself in 2021 like I had planned.

>>712652417
>well what do you suggest then?
Keep them on /v/. Most people prefer discussing them here anyways. If the PS6 comes out and its a neuralink metaverse console, or whatever the next big epoc of gaming is, then we can start talking about a new board for the 360-ps5 or rolling it with the retro stuff like the PS2.

>>712652779
>or rolling it with the retro stuff like the PS2.
wouldn't this get pretty fucky though? the early games on the console are a quite a bit more different than the stuff you saw later on (compare GTA IV to V for instance)

What was your favorite game on the 360 marketplace and why was it Doritos Crash Course?

>>712652779
>Most people prefer discussing them here anyways
anon nobody is talking about games on /v/
>steam charts
>culture war
>goon/waifu bait
>frog shitposts
while vidya-adjacent thread rot on page 10
>we can start talking about a new board for the 360-ps5
that would be /v/ 2.0
>or rolling it with the retro stuff like the PS2.
that would be /v/ 2.0 but even worse because obviously ps3-ps5 discourse will shift ps2 aside

>>712649919
I can literally play 360 games on my Xsex seamlessly right now, I was actually playing Skate yesterday and crashed the game while fucking around lelel. Same copy I bought at launch btw.

>>712649923
That's a population problem, gaming on the Eastern Islands is player poverty.

>>712653584
>I can literally play 360 games on my Xsex seamlessly right now,
and?
sony could also include ps1-ps2-ps3 backwards compatibility in the novidyastation5, does that remove the retro status from the ps1 or ps2 or ps3 somehow?

Worst console ever made, did enormous, irreversible damage to the industry and I'm glad the Xbox brand is dead after this gen

>>712649346
she's in her late 40s now

>>712653752
>Could

But they don't. So defacto those are more "retro" by virtue of being less available. But other anon has a greater point in that design philosophy has not shifted in truly significant ways since that era. Grand theft Auto 5 was released in that era and CONTINUES to be one of the biggest games to this day. In addition, the remake/remaster culture has shown that games of that era hold up very well mechanically, most times they are just glorified cosmetic updates like Dead Space or Oblivion. I similarly would not call mid-2000s films "retro"

>>712654521
>But they don't.
because it's a greedy ass company
and the sky is blue
did backwards compatibility help microsoft to not get their shit outsold 3:1?
>So defacto those are more "retro" by virtue of being less available.
?????
is ps6 has bc they stop being retro suddenly?
>But other anon has a greater point in that design philosophy has not shifted in truly significant ways since that era
and I said he's right
my argument is that while it didn't shift as hard as before but it did shit enough to warrant 7th gen consoles a spot
>Grand theft Auto 5 was released in that era and CONTINUES to be one of the biggest games to this day.
that's like an outlier at this point
>the remake/remaster culture has shown that games of that era hold up very well mechanically,
and yet they still have to include QoL additions and gameplay changes like in oblivion you mentioned, if it was just a cosmetic reskin only then I would agree with you on that

my favorite console ever

>>712649350
The rule isn't just about time. It's about giving opportunity for certain topics to have a chance of surviving the speed of a board. That's the whole point of sub-boards. /vp/ was created so the catalog wasn't clogged with nothing but Pokemon, and /vr/ exists so boomers can discuss their 2600s.
What should happen is we get an additional board and /vr/ gets changed to being either up to 4th gen to draw the line at widespread 3D, or that second board is /v2k/ with a carveout for Dreamcast.

>>712649919
Maybe the first 2 years or so but after that it became, as you said, a bit template-y.
If I play something modern and pop in a 360 game, in no way does it feel like a different time. 720p is the reminder but everything plays exactly the same.
T. Still own all my 120 360 games

/v/ will pretend the 360 was bad

>>712650276
NIGGA Y YOU DUMB.
Its a store, they use the retro term so you can easily find non current gen games.
If I look for 360 or og xbox games in game stores, I look under retro.

It should be under vintage, but whatever

>>712648725 (OP)
Take me back.

>>712648725 (OP)
>introduces paid online
>introduces microtransactions
>introduces ads on console
>introduces digital licensing on a console
>introduces console digital currencies
>RRoD, went through 4 personally
press S to Spit

>>712654782
>and yet they still have to include QoL additions and gameplay changes

This is essentially a patch. If a modern game gets patched does the previous version become "retro?" Fundamentally Oblivion and its remaster are the same game, they even uses the same base code.

In the case of Dead Space R, they DID rebuild from ground up but it is essentially the same game but prettier, showing that game didn't need a redux at all. Compare to System Shock remaster, fundamentally different games. And no one would deny SS1 is retro.

its so crazy to me that we still dont have a good xbox 360 emulator. OG Xbox is kinda meh too but you can play jet set radio future on it and beat is no problem

who says xbox isnt popular in japan ?

>>712655812

>>712650276
>wii u retro but xbox one & ps4 aren't
make it make sense

>>712649350
vr is an era, the analog era - not a rolling window to eventually include everything modern
PS2 should not have been accepted, site admins are a shit but what can do.

>>712656593
ps3 has analog output
ps4 doesn't

>>712648725 (OP)
This console was the last truly “great” console. It’s objectively better than the PS3 and Wii.

>>712656593
PS3, 360 and Wii all had analog out. 360 didn't even ship with HDMI until the later Jasper revision.

>>712648921
My friend went through like 5 of those things because they all kept red ringing. What an awful console.

Sleep tight, red-ringer

>>712655526
>Complains like a little bitch
>Still bought 4 of them

>>712657148
>He buyed/boughted

Microsoft replaced those things for free almost from the very beginning when they realized how high the failure rate actually was to avoid lawsuits. I personally replaced 3 of them, I can only imagine what that fiasco cost the Xbox brand in profits.