>Mega Man le dead
What would you do to fix the franchise then? Here's mine.

>Classic
Use the concept art for fused forms from Mega Man 11 to give Mega Man and his relevant siblings Boost adapters. Mega Man + Rush = Rush Boost, Proto Man + Tango = Tango Boost, Roll + Beat = Beat Boost. Have 5 of the robot masters be Water Man, Hot Woman, Earth Man, Ninja Woman, and Thunder Man. And have the other 3 be decided via a robot master creation contest.

Also, Mega Man powered up 2.

>X
Start out with X, Zero, and Alia. Have 4 of the 8 maverick stages contain Light capsules for X, and the other 4 contain Wily capsules for Zero. One you've rescues at least 100 reploids, Axe gets repaired. Mavericks includes Oil possum and a female Maverick named Useless Useless Unicorn who puts on lipstick and dies of old age.

>Legends
Give the legends fans what they want so they can shut up.

>Battle Network
An interquel or a side game. I don't care as long as it has Crashman EXE.

>ZX
ZXC where you play as Prairie who can mega merge with Model C which has the soul of Ciel.

>Starforce
Starforce Mega Man can use noise changes based on the satellite admis, the O-parts, the Angel & Pirate O-parts, Lyra, and Pedia. Zack can EM wave change with Pedia. Lans descendant can EM wave change into X EXE.

>Other
7 crossovers between Mario & Mega Man not counting Smash even if Mario has to crossover with each mainline Mega Man series. Because that blue rodent has had it too good for too long, it doesn't matter what you think.

Do you think a fully 3D classic style mega man could work (not like Legends or X7)?
Something where it retains the focus on platforming and shooting takes skill (no lock-on) and can be done while platforming (no TPS-like aiming, just shoot in directions + 45 degree angles like in Super Metroid).
Basically X7 but good and classic instead of X style.
Thinking of trying to prototype something like this.

To answer you, I like the classic with fused forms idea. Sounds cool.

>>712657730
I think so and I think this is the route it has to go. It could do what Mega Man Zero 3 (or was it 4) was doing with the grab attack that stole enemy weapons.

>>712655645 (OP)
All I want from Mega Man is ZXC and, to a lesser extent, Maverick Hunter X to continue and realign the rest of the series. I understand that they HAD to start at X1 if they were going to go all out but remaking the best game in the franchise was always a doomed endeavor, doubly so on PSP.
And uh, I guess a real Crossover between BN/SF could be fun instead of the BN1 rehash that was OSS. That's about it.

>>712655645 (OP)
>HOT WOMAN

>>712657730
I don't know. I think Mega Man 11 being 2.5D was the perfect compromise. I think 2D games are outdated because I always knew video games would go 3D, and I think it's easier to make new costumes. But I remember seeing a thumbnail for a video talking about how the transition to 3D wasn't kind to Mega Man. Also, no lock-on AND no TPS? Then how is it suppose to work without the gameplay being bad? Because I don't want FPS to be the future of video games, especially not Mega Man. Can't the lock-on at least be optional like Starfox 64? Or have it be like arrows in botw/totk?

>>712657730
The problem with 3D isn't that it doesn't work for Mega Man. It's that Capcom are too scared even despite all their modernizations and revivals to ever try again because X7 was just that shit, and honestly I can't even call it so shit that it's like Superman 64 or Bubsy 3D tier, it's just not really good.
The only way you'd ever see Mega Man hybridize 3D into the gameplay is just straight up not going to be a 1:1 platformer that happens to move in 3D. They would mix it up. Ratchet & Clank, Lost Planet, Recore, I dunno what could serve as inspiration and a basis, but they sure as shit don't want to just staple 3D onto 2D designed gameplay ever again.

>>712655645 (OP)
Battle Network could really use a modern installment with 3D visuals and better pacing
Also if they're REALLY feeling spicy integrate an actual AI chatbot into MegaMan.exe

>>712658440
>a real Crossover between BN/SF could be fun instead of the BN1 rehash
That's actually not a bad idea. Especially if they can still implement Crashman EXE & Zackpedia. I love Capcom, but they would be less likely to be like "this didn't sell enough so no more new games" if they killed two birds with one stone.
>>712658648
That pun was intentional. I like fire elemental females even when they're not trying to be hot. Besides, we have a Cold Man so I want a robot master whose name begins with Hot for completion reasons. Same reason I went for Ninja Woman. We have Pirate Man, but a Ninja Man would be too similar to Shadow Man. So I went with Ninja Woman to spice things up it also helps that I have a gag fetish.

>>712655645 (OP)
I don't want modern """Capcom""" to touch Mega Man. There is literally no one left in that shithole who could make a good one.
Sometimes dead it better.

>>712658705
Yeah it would be a hard thing to design and obviously no one's succeeded at it yet. I probably wont.
I want something to feel like a classic mega man but in a fully 3D environment.
I definitely don't want an FPS.
But I don't want to make it a TPS with auto aim, would feel too generic and not mega man-like.
Like, you'll be moving in 3D TPS style but your shots would have real dimensionality to them and take up space and you'd have to consider where to shoot while you're platforming like in 2D mega man. You'd have to have very predictable and controllable shot angles and make it feel right control-wise. I want spacing and movement to be a consideration in the shooting as much as the platforming, not just lock on and blast away like most platformers with shooting, which I find boring.

>>712659480
>Sometimes dead it better.
And Mega man is no example. Last I checked, Mario & Mega Man are the only video game franchises to have at least 100 titles, but Mario still keeps em coming. I just don't want Mega Man to stop making new titles under any circumstance. Just becauseCapcom isn't that great NOW doesn't mean it's never going to be great again. I didn't wait 2 decades for Crashman EXE to be told it's never going to happen. Besides, people said Digimon Adventure was never coming back, and now we have Tri and Colon

>>712659992
Capcom has had the most success they have EVER had by Americanizing and casualizing the FUCK out of their series.
This is it. They are not going back. Ever.
If you want a realistic Mega Man game made on RE engine that completely foregoes its cartoony/anime aspects then more power to you, I would prefer it literally never exists.

My take on a Mega Man reboot would place it long enough after Legends that it may as well be a new continuity, maybe throw in some Jungian universal recurrence for good measure. Treasure hunter sleaze builds a robot to explore ruins for him. Robot accidentally has to be a hero. Maybe the Elder System Sera mentioned can finally fully activate here, maybe the long-term plot is about finally giving humans (or whatever they are at this point) a fresh start. Maybe it's about reviving the pure human race. I dunno, plot stuff doesn't matter just give it the tone of Porco Rosso and put robots on top and it'll be good.

Gameplay would be a movement focused 3D platformer, maybe a camera more like Splatoon than Mario Odyssey otherwise you'd have trouble running and running and need some kind of auto lock thing. Give Rock a wall run, slide, dodge roll, context sensitive actions and the ability to steal enemy powers on the fly for a few shots. Eight stages you can move between freely or warp to from your home base. Few sub missions on each stage in addition to finding the treasure/stopping the boss robot. Making money is the goal, I think.

I could see it being a lot of fun.

>>712659587
I mean at that point you're basically asking for Ratchet & Clank with more projectile weapons rather than hitscan and an encouragement to play aggressive landgrab movement rather than simply side strafing back and forth endlessly. I actually can't think of many platformer shooters right now but I did just wake up.

>>712655645 (OP)
Rockman X sequel with Returnal's gameplay

>>712655645 (OP)
>X
Just make X9
>Legends just make Legends 3
>ZX
Just make ZXC and make sure it isn't by Inti
The rest I don't know.

>>712662192
>and make sure it isn't by Inti
inti is effectively still the only studio making Mega Man-likes at all in this generation, besides occasional indie games. there's really no one else fit for the job, never mind them being the creators of ZX to begin with.

>>712660569
>This is it. They are not going back. Ever.
Right. Just like how Tatoba was "never" getting an upgrade, Mega Man was "never" joining Smash, Beast Boy & Starfire were "never" kissing, Battle passes were "never" returning, and Trump was "never" becoming president again. When will pesimistfags learn?

>>712662469
OK m8, have fun waiting I guess.
Your list is pretty funny though, I see what you did there.

>>712662423
>inti is effectively still the only studio making Mega Man-likes at all in this generation
And they're not fucking good. The last two ZX games should've told you that.

>>712655645 (OP)
Still more iconic than Bomberfaggot
Laugh at Bombermanfags
>has 100+ games
>one of the most copied games of all time
>revolutionized multi-player in gaming
>had the first HD game ever
>launched the successful B-Daman toyline
>good Nintendo history and had a crossover with Wario and Mario Party 2 unused content
>has other crossovers with Pac-Man, Transformers, Yatterman and Lilo & Stich
>still gets BTFO in SSB and became a complete laughtingstock by everyone
>series gets overshadowed by waifufags and coomers beacuse of Bombergirl despite them never playing the game
>R got outsold by the new Momotetsu, a fellow Hudson IP that was only released in Japan.
>no console game for 5 years
>No games on NSO
>40th anniversary came and went with no fanfare or events
What a fucking loser. Imagine being a Bombercuck in 2024

>>712662702
How are the ZX games not good?

Why dont capcom make a botw type thing for Megaman? Why do they refuse to make a big megaman game? He's their mascot and they left him behind.

>>712662702
ZX is fine, you whiny baby. Like, some major downsides for shit like the first game's awful map, but you're acting like they're dumpster fires.

>>712662789
He got filtered, have patience

>>712662717
>>712662717
all konami's fault

>>712662789
Because they're not? ZX alone doesn't respect your time as a Metroidvania, the map is a fucking nightmare, and Area K is horrendous. That's just a little of what's wrong with ZX, not even including ZXA.

>>712663019
I didn't ask WHY, I asked HOW
Elaborate.

>>712662865
They're fine, serviceable but not good games you fucking tard. I want good Megaman games. Sorry that I don't eat mediocrity slop from a bowl on the floor with a smile.

>>712663092
I just told you retard. How and why are interchangeable in this context.

>>712663019
> ZX alone doesn't respect your time as a Metroidvania
Good thing it's not a metroidvania then.

>>712663352
You're right, it fails pretty hard at trying to be one but that's my point.

>>712663540
It's not trying to be one at all. Having an interconnected map does not make a metroidvania. Jak and Daxter is not a Metroidvania, Paper Mario is not a metroidvania. You, however, are a retard.

>>712663667
>This interconnected map littered with hidden goodies and upgrades isn't anything like the games with an interconnected map littered with hidden goodies and upgrades.
Okay retard.

>>712663540
.. are you really angry that it has an explorable map but isn't actually a Metroidvania? Is THAT your sticking point?

>>712664008
Wrong post, retard.

>>712663926
>isn't anything like
Not what I said faggot. You can argue that superficially resembles a metroidvania, but it's not one. You can enter any area in any order you want, none of the goodies and upgrades are mandated for completing the game, and the stages themselves are mostly linear. If your only clinging point is that there are hidden goodies, then Mega Man Zero could be considered a metroidvania.

Dead is better, but I will soft reboot the Franchise by releasing Roll-gal, with all-female robot masters backed by a blistering quality soundtrack.

The fanart alone will sustain my series for entries 1-9

>>712664285
>Not what I said faggot.
Stop goalpost moving and arguing semantics. Get an actual argument, retard.
>You can enter any area in any order you want
No you can't.
>none of the goodies and upgrades are mandated for completing the game
Neither are energy tanks, missles, or power bombs.
>stages themselves are mostly linear
Your point? So was Metroid Fusion and it's clear where ZX got its inspiration from, not that your dumbass would acknowledge that.
btw kid, avatarfagging is against the rules.

>>712655645 (OP)
>What would you do to fix the franchise then?
do a "pixel remaster" collection of Megaman 1-10 (7 and 8 doesn't need it, but they still should be included)

by that I mean update the 8 bit games into 16 bit (a much better middle ground between retro style and pleasing looks) and also fix the shitloads of little issues literally every game in the series has. Bullshit powerspikes, ridiculously overpowered weapons/items here and there, unfun robot master fights, etc. Also actually add intros to MM1 and 3, and potentially more difficulty options for casuals. a jazz jack rabbit2 style split screen coop mode would be nice and pretty easy to add too

Currently there is just no good way to get into the series as a whole. People will pick up the collection and get filtered by MM1 iceman or elecman stage, or go to MM2 and get filtered by pretty much any stage that isn't metal or bubble man at first.

also MM12 needs to be more ambitious. Capcom got lazy with 9-10 and even 11 was kind of a lower effort game. 12 needs to be more ambitious like MM7 and 8 was, it needs higher production values and it needs to progress the story, introduce new characters, etc.

>>712664576
>semantics
lol, not semantics I'm arguing definitions. Sorry, but Paper Mario still isn't an metroidvania.
>No you can't.
After the two (linear) intro missions, you can approach any of the first four pseudoroids in any order any of the latter four after the mid-game mission. No different than the MM7, MM8, Z3 or Z4.
>Neither are energy tanks, missles, or power bombs.
You need the ice beam, shine spark, space jump, and screw attack to beat the game retard
>So was Metroid Fusion
Every area in fusion will still have you running back and forth from gated progression based on powerups and still maintains an emphasis on exploration. Every stage in ZX is
>kill enemies
>get to the boss
If you're comparing these games, you haven't played either.

>>712664576
>>712665080
Actually also,
>Neither are energy tanks, missles, or power bombs.
Yes they fucking are you retard, you can't open red doors without missiles holy fucking shit.

>>712665080
>lol, not semantics I'm arguing definitions.
That's semantics, moron.
>After the two (linear) intro missions, you can approach any of the first four pseudoroids in any order any of the latter four after the mid-game mission
It's three iirc which isn't even the point. You still need key cards for new areas.
>Every area in fusion will still have you running back and forth from gated progression based on powerups and still maintains an emphasis on exploration
>Go to Area H to retrevie biometal then go back to Area H to access Area L so you can retrieve another biometal
Huh, sounds familiar when you're not purposefully generalizing it in bad faith.
Again, avatarfagging is against the rules kid.

>>712663183
Right.
I pressed you because I thought you had something more insightful, less retarded to say than "UHH... game bad because... one area bad!" but I guess not.
That one's on me, really.

>>712665537
>I pressed you because I thought you had something more insightful, less retarded
No you fucking didn't. You threw a fit because I insulted Inti and then you went on an avatarfagging spree. At least reply to the proper post, idiot.

>>712665658
OK retard.

>>712665706
>unhhggh okay weetawd
That's right, run bitch.

>>712665347
>definitions is semantics
>a cow is not a cat
>this is semantics
retard
>You still need key cards for new areas.
And you need to beat the Robot Masters to get to the Wily Castle, doesn't make it a metroidvania.
>Go to Area H to retrevie biometal then go back to Area H to access Area L so you can retrieve another biometal
You can warp to the endpoint of nearly every area in the game. And having to backtrack doesn't make Paper Mario a Metroidvania
>avatarfagging is against
Using reaction images isn't avatarfagging dipshit, but I guess pointing this out is also "semantics"

Just do the classic thing. Make some cheap, short, but heartfelt action platformers that occasionally reuse assets, so you just spend time exploring interesting bosses and level design. Mega Man doesn't need a grand overarching plot, it can just be straightforward arcadey gameplay. I get the feeling Capcom likes keeping MM releases sparse to generate desire, or because it's not as profitable as MH or RE.

>>712665958
>>a cow is not a cat
>>this is semantics
>retard
No, moron. Trying to pretend a brown cow isn't a cow because it isn't white with black spots is semantics.
>>You still need key cards for new areas.
>And you need to beat the Robot Masters to get to the Wily Castle, doesn't make it a metroidvania.
Nobody's trying to say that Classic Megaman is a Metroidvania retard, stay on topic.
>You can warp to the endpoint of nearly every area in the game. And having to backtrack doesn't make Paper Mario a Metroidvania
Not until you get to them.
>Using reaction images isn't avatarfagging dipshit, but I guess pointing this out is also "semantics"
One image is a reaction image, you have one attached to every fucking post. That's avatarfagging kiddo.

>>712666168
>Make some cheap, short, but heartfelt action platformers that occasionally reuse assets
For all intents and purposes, current day Capcom is an American company. If a game is not going to sell AT LEAST 5 million, it's not worth making, even if the cost/benefit ratio is completely in their favor.
Enjoy your """Street Fighter""", """Monster Hunter""" and """Resident Evil""" company bro. Also Pragmata I guess, if that ever comes out.

You could probably do a cool 3D shooter with the right team, like Vanquish with a Mega Man skin

>>712666543
>Vanquish
That looks like garbage

>>712666543
Vanquish was great fun, but I wouldn't want a Mega Man that plays like that.

>>712659351
Shadow Man is a ninja. You might want to go with Kabuki for Jiraya inspirations.

>>712655645 (OP)
Experiment again and stop trying to make everything an eternal series. Something with an end, like Zero.
Maybe something about the Cyber Elf War. Or a game that follows a villain.
A block puzzle game starring Ciel or Prairie. A shmup with a megaman style power gimmick.
A musou set in the Maverick Wars. Just actually try something new.

I'd make an X9 a Maverick Prison on Titan or something. And the Mavericks are based on cryptids and monsters. And I'll throw in two monster girls to boot.

>>712667462
I genuinely don't think they're gonna touch anything Zero-series onward ever again besides for artwork and fan celebration stuff like anniversaries or crossover games. All of that stuff past X was distinctly Inafune's autism and planning, at least Classic, X and the BN/SF stuff are 100% able to be separated from him.

What Megaman game is the best?

>>712668198
A loaded question with an impossible answer. Fans will generally say Classic 2 or 3 and X1 or 4, but there's so many games it's impossible to say one is inherently the best altogether of all of them. So many minute differences, notable additions, big shakeups. I don't like Mega Man 2 much myself but enjoy 6 a lot despite some people seriously treating it like a black sheep, for example.

For an inverse answer to your question, never let anyone tell you Mega Man 7 was bad.

>>712668198
7
Completely unironically.

>>712655645 (OP)
Roll game

>>712668198

>>712668883
BASED
Finally someone says it.

>>712655645 (OP)
Open World Game based on the Ruby Spears cartoon.

I want Mega Man X in 3D with Returnal's gameplay

>>712662857
>botw type thing for Megaman
I kinda like it
>segmented open world map with different biomes
>biomes each have a dungeon-like section leading up to the robot master
>Wily's castle equivalent always accessible like in BotW. Can choose to beat it right away with just the blaster or power up before.
>powers are used to platform and find secrets alongside for combat. Like you can jump into a wind shot and get air to find collectables.
>physics system like BotW where fire power can melt ice or burn plants, electric shot can power machines, etc.