ITT we post soulless cashgrabs

>>712744975 (OP)
incl. nightreign

Next time you should post your mom in pic related to have an accurate sentence

>>712744975 (OP)

>>712746489
>immediately resorts to "B-B-BUT TOTK!"
Rent free, Eldensnoy.

>>712747059
>same map
>same enemies
>story is kind of/not really a follow up of the previous one
>new mechanics are garbage
keep seething nintendie

>>712744975 (OP)
It's not a soulless cashgrab, clearly a lot of work went into it, there just were some questionable creative decisions.
Nightreign is a cashgrab, and it maybe impacted the dev of SOTE

>>712744975 (OP)
Yep
>>712746489
Yep

>>712744975 (OP)
>good things in SotE
Bayle
the gank fight at the end if you get ansback and thiolle
>bad things about SotE
everything else

>>712747701
Nightreign is fun...

>>712747883
Doesn’t change that it’s a cash grab, a cash grab can be fun if the founding is strong enough

>>712744975 (OP)
What makes it soulless?

>>712748803
Shameless retconning is pretty soulless.

>>712744975 (OP)
It was clearly unfinished. Wouldn't really call it a cash grab.

>>712746489
This was clearly a cash grab.

>>712744975 (OP)
picnotrel

>>712748878
is that it?

>>712748985
I don't have anything to prove to you.

>>712749074
So you have nothing to prove your point?

>Shameless retconning
in a game that barely has any lore?

>>712749516
>in a game that barely has any lore?
That just makes the retarded retconning even worse though.

>>712749670
so you have nothing. ok. good thread.

>>712744975 (OP)

>>712744975 (OP)
everything pokemon

>>712748949
>It was clearly unfinished.
Says fucking who?
It has a whole game of content for 40 bucks.
It's probably the only Fromsoftware DLC that isn't a ripoff

>>712752147
80% of the content is roaming around empty fields like an asshole
>Yeah but that's Elden Ring
No it's even worse in SotE because of how unintuitive the design of the map is.

>>712752291
>NOOOOO I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION AND EXPLORE PROPERLY A VERTICAL OPEN MAP
Lol
>B-but muh empty space
The empty space in the lower middle part of the map is a great way to pace the map, you feel like question to the bottom parts of the Realm of Shadow whiletraversing beautiful enviroments, but most of the time spent is the upper half where there's content density. The map would be certainly worse if the content was spread evenly

>>712752675
>NOOOOO I HAVE TO ACTUALLY PAY ATTENTION AND EXPLORE PROPERLY A VERTICAL OPEN MAP
You don't have to pay attention though. You just hug the edges and go down random side paths that end up randomly taking you to some other area. The map is vertical without any rhyme or reason, unlike in DS1.

>>712748878
It doesn't retcon anything

>>712753618
Right out of the gate it retcons the body in Mohg's palace being Miquella with absolutely no explanation given.

>>712753480
>Unlike in DS1
>M-muh parish firelink elevator shortcut!
DS1 is a spiderweb of dead ends.

>>712753740
>it retcons the body in Mohg's palace being Miquella
No it fucking does not, are you high? Hell, the pose it's making before the Mohg fight is even the same one Miquella does during the PCR boss fight and on his remembrance.

>>712753740
>Right out of the gate it retcons the body in Mohg's palace being Miquella
It doesn't though, that's Miquella's body

>>712753862
So Miquella abandons his flesh in Mohgwyn Palace, then again in The Land of Shadow, with no explanation as to how this is even possible? Seems like the devs give zero fucks about their world.

>>712746489
>>712748949
>>712752043
Retarded snoy.

>>712754020
No, Miquella abandons his body and then his spiritual body, which is condensed into Golden Crosses

SOTE was a 9/10 that could have been a 10/10 with just
>Handful of additional dungeons in the emptier regions
>Cutscenes for all bosses
>More interaction with base game and especially dialogue with Melina/Gideon

>>712753785
Holy cope. The ladder kick from Taurus Demon to Undead Burg is better level design than anything in SotE

>>712753480
>You just hug the edges and go down random side paths that end up randomly taking you to some other area.
If you suck at being observant

Here's an easy one

>>712754148
That is retarded and I don't care about retarded worldbuilding though. You can tell me about how it's fine to bring everyone back after they're dead in Marvel movies because of multiverses, that's just as dumb as this shit.

>>712744975 (OP)
nig

>>712754020
>>712754678
>A character undergoing spiritual purification to remove the parts of themselves unfit for divinity through ritual abandonment of their flesh is just like bringing Professor X back to life with time travel

>>712754678
>That is retarded
No it's not
>I don't care about retarded worldbuilding though
So why do you care about the DLC story?
>You can tell me about how it's fine to bring everyone back after they're dead in Marvel movies because of multiverses, that's just as dumb as this shit.
No it's not, because Elden Ring has defined set rules of its metaphysics and worldbuilding. You being a retard and not understanding them is not valid criticism

>>712755228
>actually, there is such a thing as 'spirit flesh' that is not mentioned anywhere in the game, that has absolutely no greater lore significance at all, but purely absolves the devs of violating story continuity and nothing else

ITT: we post good games we don't like or can't play on our toy.

>>712754543

>>712744975 (OP)
Cashgrab DLCs don't take 2 years to make. And I say that as someone who didn't even like SOTE. They clearly put a lot of effort into it. Just not my cup of souls-tea.

>>712754543
wow so provocative

>>712755351
>>actually, there is such a thing as 'spirit flesh' that is not mentioned anywhere
The game is full of spirits that are dead yet have nowhere to go

>>712755351
The exact physical nature of what Miquella was doing is literally not important, and you would understand that if you were not autistic. What he was abandoning was his birthright, biological lineage, and large parts of his own personality, which he believed could cause him to stray from the path of ultimate and universal benevolence.

Is it really a cashgrab though? It's filled with shitloads of content for a DLC.

Nightreign is more of a cash grab. SotE was just a disappointing dlc but had more to work with.

>>712755712
>The game is full of spirits that are dead yet have nowhere to go
Yeah, and the defining feature of spirits is that they don't have flesh.

>>712755868
>The exact physical nature of what Miquella was doing is literally not important
If Miquella didn't multiple bodies that are dropped around the world with zero interest or explanation from any of the many NPCs who are interested in what Miquella is doing weren't a thing, I'd agree.

>>712757031
>and the defining feature of spirits is that they don't have flesh.
Yes they do, you are again being retarded
The very Age of Stars ending is an ending where spirits don't go anywhere and die into spirit graves and then are reborn as larval tears

>>712757526
>Yes they do
I would sooner punch Miyazaki in the face than humiliate myself into these sorts of knots to justify the shitty writing he slapped together to justify his shitty boss fights.

>>712757795
>No argument
Ok retard

>>712757031
>Yeah, and the defining feature of spirits is that they don't have flesh.
So how can I hit them?

I dont think a lot of the hate was justified, because most of it on /v/ felt super insincere. It was just rat behavior to dog pile on it.

>>712744975 (OP)
A clear reason why I'm not going to buy it, until his price deflate.

>>712763070
dont bother. stay out, faggot.