Sam would've been delivering packages to Israel if this game was realistic

Yeah, he would have walked to fucking Tel Aviv. You fucking idiot.

>>712789896
>walk
You didn't even play the experience

>>712789816 (OP)
Thank fucking god it wasn't.

>>712789896
as great Randy Pitchford once said
REAL fans will make it happen

>>712789991
You are a dishonest shill.
Sure, you get vehicles and ziplines, after hours and hours of walking, in an effort to walk less. This is a chore, by definition. Walking is rewarded with less walking, because the activity is fundamentally not fun.

In other games, for example, exploration rewards you with new gear, to allow you access to more areas for more exploration. Because exploration is fun. Or take combat. Fight to level up to get more different skills or weapons, to let you fight differently.

In these examples, doing an activity rewards you with more of the same thing. This works because the activity is fun. In Death Stranding, walking is rewarded with gear and infrastructure to let you walk less. In this simple design decision, Kojima reveals his unconscious understanding that just walking from A to B is not fun.

>>712790436
You put the game down after ten hours and didn't beat it, I see.

>>712790506
I played 20 hours and reached the second area. Yes I didn't beat the game. It is a waste of time.
>Yes I made a great dish but I covered it in a layer of manure. It's your fault for not wanting the good inner core.

>Food analogy
So what? Refute the central point.

>>712791047
the gameplay is never bad. it is engaging the whole way through. whether you are walking around at the beginning of the game or zooming around at the end of the game, it is all fun. the "layer of manure" you claim is actually chocolate mousse.

>>712790436
I enjoyed DS but you're not totally wrong

>>712791617
It's the most boring shit imaginable. You probably just like listening to Low Roar while taking a stroll, have you tried that? Doesn't cost money and you also get some exercise and fresh air.

You wouldn't defend it if it wasn't Kojima.

>>712789816 (OP)
Glad Kojima is a commie and against Israel

>>712791047
I thought it was fun, personally. I think it would have been less fun to be stuck on foot for the entire game, and I liked the story a lot.

>>712792252
It’s both retard. You get to rebuild shit and connect cities. If it’s not for you that’s fine but don’t be a faggot about it.

>>712791932
>It's the most boring shit imaginable.
you've got a poor imagination.
>You wouldn't defend it if it wasn't Kojima.
yes, i would. i played the cairn demo and that shit was fun too.

>>712792252
those aren't even contradictory. walking IS fun AND the game is more than just walking.

>>712792672
>I love placing down bridges, roads, and ziplines, in a game not strong in creative building, in order to connect identical looking Ubisoft hubs to get my Hollywood C-lister cutscenes. I refuse to play actual building games, or actual truck/train simulators. Because I need Kojumbo's creative genius.

>>712792851
Yes, but Kojimbo drones use "it's not just walking" to defend against the "walking is boring" argument.

>>712793172
You are the Kojimbo drone, retard.

>>712792797
I'm going to try Cairn. I bet it doesn't have hold-triggers-to-not-fall.

>>712793345
You're the one defending him

>>712793373
the leaning was interesting and far better than if the game just tried to have the same ubiquitous controls as every other third person action game ever. it isn't even a huge departure from regular controls, but it is enough to set it apart and make it marginally more interesting.

I'm impressed this dogshit polbait OP got game discussion. Good work anons, carry on.

>>712791047
>points out "food analogy"
In this simple design decision, this anon has shown an unconscious understanding that his posts are in fact, shit

>>712794676
By not refuting the central point, anon reveals his unconscious love for cock gobbling.

>>712794792
Walking isn't the game dumbass. It's logistics and planning. Walking is just the execution.
In portal 2 you have to solve a puzzle and walk to the exit. Is that a walking simulator?

>>712795016
I never needed substantial effort in planning routes. It's brain dead obvious. Elementary.

>"Bridges, ladders, and ropes, how do they work?"
- Anon

>Walking isn't the game
>>712792252

>>712795239
In left 4 dead you have to walk to the safe room. But I never needed substantial effort in killing zombies. It's brain dead obvious. Elementary.
>Walking isn't the game

>>712793172
if they aren't contradictory then you are both misusing the meme AND misunderstanding why the game might appeal to someone. one isn't the defense of the other, they are both just true statements.

>>712795462
I can feel the seethe as you grasp at straws from your strawman of me. Left for Dead 4 is primarily a shooting game with friends. Shooting with friends is fun.

>>712795585
I didn't misuse it. I'm pointing out Kojimadrone goal post moving behaviour. They always start with "it's more than just walking" then fall back on pure asspull "walking is fun".

>>712795679
I am mirroring you. You are invalidating all of the elements of a game and claiming it's just about getting from a to b.
I have invalidated all of the elements of another game and claimed it's just about getting from a to b.
Death Stranding is primarily.. not primarily anything specific. Inventory management, weight management, route planning. Solving problems is fun.
You are dishonest not just to these anons but yourself, you want to feel superior to the fans of an eccentric game. And there is no Left 4 Dead 4, so rip dumbass

>>712795876
>I didn't misuse it.
there you go again, showing what an absolute retard you are. you did misuse it. the point of the meme is to show two contradictory viewpoints held by the same person, they struggle to choose which one side because they want to hit both despite each side invalidating the other. "walking is fun" does not invalidate the statement "it is more than just walking" and vice versa.

>>712795996
Okay well since you are asspulling. I'll mirror you.
>Every game boils down to going from A to B
Left 4 Dead has survival modes. You stay at point A until zombies overwhelm you.

>>712795679
>Left for Dead 4

>>712796321
>kojimadrones are always moving the goal post! I need the meme I don't understand!
Lol

>>712796321
So you think what death stranding is missing is an alternative game mode where you stay in one area?
What about the boss fights in death stranding, those are mostly limited to one area

>>712796164
They are contradictory is the context of defending this Kojimaslop. "Walking is fun" does not require "It's more than walking". And "It's more than walking" as an argument implicitly concedes the point that walking simulators are boring.

>>712796553
What is this asspulling?
You encounter BTs as you deliver from A to B. Boss fights are just a longer version of that.
We've strayed so far from you defending your slop that you have to nitpick my points.

>>712792252
How are those two statements contradictory?

>>712796809
>you are nit picky and biased
Gotta move the goal posts again, bud?

>>712796627
did you know that you need to be over the age of 18 to use this website?

>>712796953
>>712797015
I accept your concessions

>>712797120
Yes thank you for accepting what I have been saying. Rip again dumbass

>>712797120
there is no concession, you just have the reading comprehension of a grade schooler.

Walking is fun lol

Average dialogue in this game/movie:
>Sam, it's FIGHTLIKEHELLDUDE, the ATs are attacking the base. You need to use the KKP to defend us
>Why me?
>Because the AI of BS is using you to expand the Shartium network along the coast of UCBA
>UCBA? You mean United Cucks of Black America?
>Yes, contact FARTMAN for more information