Realistically, the tier list would be something similar to this
>Hardest: RTS, rhythm, bullet hell, DOTA, MMO PVP
>Mid tier: fighting games (except smash), other MOBA, Valve FPS, Bloodborne, Master Duel
>low tier: Other FPS, Other soulslike, smash, pokemon, MMO PVE,
>noob tier: party games, other card games, gacha,
>>712815226 (OP)>DOTAAre we talking about DOTA post 7.00 or before?
>>712815226 (OP)>except smashsmash has an insanely high skill ceiling
and fucking bloodborne lmao really nigger
>>712818498no it's extremely hard at the highest level
smashfags literally destroy their hands playing the games, the idea smash is easier than classic fighting games is retarded and comes from people who don't understand vidya, probably snoys since the faggot OP genuinely thought bloodborne requires tons of skills
>>712819060Any player can pick up smash, and to a lesser extent tekken, and mash buttons. Any player can also break their hands on a mario party minigame where you mash the A button. Meanwhile, bosses like father gascoigne and blood starved beast are infamous noob filters. One is clearly harder than the other.
>master duel and bloodborne in mid
trash bait thread let it sink
>>712819926fuck off retard. By this way of thinking any player can play the easiest difficulty of any rts and actually finish the damn game
>>712815226 (OP)Missing the Boshy-Type games
>>712820378except the easiest difficulty in rts games is still comparatively difficult because the mechanics associated with rts like micromanagement and fog of war is new player unfriendly, which is why it's considered one of the hardest genres to get into. Same thing if even the easiest of soulslike, which still has games journalists calling for an easy mode. Meanwhile, Nintendo themselves treat smash as a party game to be enjoyed by kids,
>>712815226 (OP)Absolutely terrible analysis. It is simply ridiculous to imply that fighting against a script, like bullet hell games, is comparable to fighting against another human player.
As for PvP games, the harder the mechanical complexity, the easier it actually is to be better against other humans. Being a top Counter Strike player is a matter of a few ms and pixels. Being a top Starcraft player is much more and there are many more levers that can be improved.
>>712819926>Any player can pick up smash, and to a lesser extent tekken, and mash buttons.yes that means it has a low skill floor which has zero relevance to the game's skill ceiling
as I said you don't understand vidya, it's ok not your fault you're brown and retarded
>>712822776Being a top starcraft player is a matter of a few APM.
>>712822776If you ask anyone that plays PVP games, they will tell you that their teammates are bots. Clearly offline and online games is not that distinct.