Thread 712829834

Hopes and dreams?

>Bring the unused enemies back
>Bring Yamaoka back for the OST like SH2
>New endings
>Expanded lore
>Better boss battles like Abstract Daddy from SH2
>Better and less janky Combat
>Cybil as an unlockable playable character
>Bring Ito to supervise and reimagine the enemies

>>712829834 (OP)
it makes me mad that they announced it so early
I prefer to be surprised when it's near completion

>>712829834 (OP)
Silent hill 2 remake was trash so i don't have any hopes and dreams for this one

>>712829834 (OP)
Everything you want is what SH fans are terrified of.
Good god you’re fucked.

>>712830339
No?

>>712829834 (OP)
I'm 33, I have no hopes and dreams
I am curious how this will turn out since Bloober has been ripping off the occult SH games since day one.

>>712830432
And imo, a straight remake is pointless because nothing will beat the aesthetic of the original. Might as well embrace the remake being remake, because otherwise you are just getting a shitter version of the original - nothing to be excited about at all

>>712830580
Best thing to ask for is actual detail being made to the occult and alchemical themes of the game, SH 1 is a game which is all about alchemy and the great work at its heart. The Olympic spirits are even there for the different stages of alchemy

>>712829834 (OP)
Might sound retarded, but I want a first person mode and maybe also a PSVR2 mode included. It's just better for immersion I think, and the games are low on combat so that third person awareness is not necessary. But as an option.

>>712830125
I'm pretty sure this has been on development as well. For SH3 they already have the second part of the game pretty much done, it's just a matter of adapting it a bit.

It will inevitably just be a completely different game.
Nothing about SH1 could work in a modern AAA title, and that is purposeful. Most of the shit that would HAVE to be changed in a remake is stuff Toyama does in all of his games:
>Weird character speech (the actors were literally told to do several second pauses between lines when recording for SH1, it was completely intentional)
>Constant weird camera angles (SH1 is really the only game that had very involved usage of them)
>Purposefully obscured storyline that requires multiple playthroughs to uncover (even including a major file that's just hidden behind vague requirements)
>the best ending is hidden behind obscure requirements
>Several plotlines just end abruptly with little warning (Lisa, Kaufmann, the whole Kaufmann side quest in general, every ending of the game)
All of that would be changed- and even ignoring that, the game is relatively brisk, that'd need to be changed to.

It is quite possibly, the WORST SH game you could EVER choose to remake because all of Toyama's games are so aggressively against modern AAA conventions. Were Silent Hill not released on the PSX during the height of RE, occupying a popular genre space as the only distinctly different competitor, it would've flopped like all of Toyama's other games. Siren, Gravity Rush, Slitterhead, they're all just like SH1. That's probably why the Shattered Memories devs just up and abandoned the idea of remaking SH1, it's a game you can't remake.

>>712829834 (OP)
>Hopes?
That it gets cancelled and Bloopooper disbands.
>dreams?
No dreams. Only nightmares.
It's fucking modern-day Kocknami + Bloops, using Unreal 5, still consulting the rebranded Sweet Baby Inc.
It will be a generic over-shoulder "Dark Souls lite" action game with a SH-like skin, just like Homecoming was 16 years ago. Except these days, the target audience (= literal PS5 nufags) LOVES that sort of slop, and does not know better (nor care for that matter). They just want to do fancy attack combos 24/7.

>>712829834 (OP)
I ONLY ever played SH2 for PS2 as a kid. Should I play PS1 version of SH1, or just wait for the remake?

>>712830432
Yes, you dumb fuck. What OP (You) is describing is LITERALLY the sort of shit that butchered Silent Hill and Resident Evil, all while they love to streamline and CUT out the actually crucial survival horror tropes, such as exploration, problem solving, and extensive replay value.

>>712832759
Remake

>>712829834 (OP)
It's going to be shit. I mean because sh is shit. I'm sure bloober will make it better like 2 even though the peeve pretends otherwise

>>712832759
>Should I play PS1 version of SH1
Yes. And anyone who has NOT played a single SH game before, NEEDS to start with the 1999 SH1. No buts.
It is unironically THE best SH game, and thus one of the greatest horror games ever made.

The modern-day DEmakes are all absolute shit.
They are broken, fugly, generic action games, that always cut shitton of content + ruin the mood, the style, and nowadays also writing.

Here's the latest SH PC Guide and links :

https://pastebin.com/uf5XhyXz

>>712829834 (OP)
Daily reminder that Kaufmann has been fucking the shit out of Lisa since she was 16 years old.

He is 52.

>>712829834 (OP)
I fully understand and agree with them doing 2 before 1/3. But man marketing is going to be confusing for people who aren't knowledgeable already. Sh2 comes out first. Then 1. Then 3.

No one is going to know which game to buy lmao. I don't think 1 or 3 will sell well at all due to this. Maybe they'll make 1/3 a single product to stop this a bit but I really really really really really doubt it respite people always coping about something like that .

>>712832759
it’s a little rough but give it a try first

>>712831991
>>712833000
You are mentally ill and sh2 frankly sucks and your autism/nostalgia makes you think it's purposeful like the pyramid head fights in 2 you also defend
The remake will be better

>>712832759
The original is the only answer, for every single game you can imagine. Never start with remakes / remasters. Double so if they were made the past 15 years.

Have people already forgot what Jewnami did to the SH HD Collection? Or that they kicked out Team-Silent back in 2005 and then whored the IP to the random Westoids, resulting utter garbage like The Movie, Homecoming, Downpour, and Book Of Memories??

>demake
>hopes
funny shill

>>712833292
Sh1* frankly sucks

>>712833000
>NEEDS to start with the 1999 SH1. No buts.
been saying i should start the franchise someday since 2005
>still haven't started

>>712833292
It's also funny considering SH2 was seen as a controversial entry when it released. Plenty of people didn't like it.

>>712829834 (OP)
I would like the Cybil route that they cut and cute female character but I know it's much to ask.

>>712833292
Not an argument, vatnig tranny.

>>712833130
>it’s a little rough
It literally plays the same as SH2 and 3, and is a step up from RE1-3, which themselves are fun and perfectly playable to this day.

>>712831991
This. But tbqh you can't remake any of the Team Silent games. They are just too unique.

Im interested in seeing how they handle the music. Im also looking forward to shooting those pterodactyl monsters in 3D
>the dogs
Fugg

>>712832786
But what would be the point of the remake? Just emulate the original? I want something to be excited towards, something that’s fresh enough to warrant playing instead of just going to the original which would be better

>>712829834 (OP)
>Silent Hill Remake
Kek. If it's not made by Team SIlent, it is NOT a real Silent Hill game. So this will just be another glorified fanfic like the SH2 demake or the rest of the western-made SH games.

>>712833623
>But what would be the point of the remake?
These days?
To refresh the IP ownership for the publisher, and to make money. To replace the original, dedicated fanbase, with an easier to please "wider audience", that more easily splurge on an annual-release shovelware franchises.

These days, the matter of remaking old classics is literally the same as some kid copying his older brother's home work.

...but I know that's not the angle you're aiming for, now is it ?
You are ready to defend modern day cash-grab AAA trash, no matter the book full of common criticism.
You also were not even alive when the 2002 Resident Evil REmake came out, and started the whole boom. That is literally what EVERY fan of EVERY single retro game has asked for since then:

A faithful recreation of their favorite game, in the exact same gameplay style, made by the ORIGINAL DEVS, for the original target audience, providing the same story and overall experience, with tasteful, smart additions, changes and expansions to keep the veteran fans entertainment, occupied, and on the edge.
A game that does not REPLACE the OG, but instead is the "next step" in the line of games.

tl;dr:
Stop WANTING to play and support modern, shitty remakes.
Start DEMANDING devs to learn how to make NEW GAMES.
Double so since neither SH fans nor the OG devs ever wanted these remakes to happen.

>>712833461
Cute Cybil gf

My only hope is that it gets cancelled.

>>712829834 (OP)
The tango ending song back

>>712830125
Guarantee they rushed that announcement out to ride the hype of the RE9 reveal, when they saw what a pop that got.

>>712834246
> You also were not even alive when the 2002 Resident Evil REmake came out, and started the whole boom.
That’s not true

>>712834246
>and started the whole boom.
but we didn't got remakes after that for nearly 10 or 15 years?

>>712834246
> You are ready to defend modern day cash-grab AAA trash, no matter the book full of common criticism.
Also, I am not, I just don’t want them to play it safe. I would rather have something that may be worth playing or may be terrible, than something that is mediocre and not worth my time

>>712835062
>That’s not true
Is it not?
And is THAT the only part you got tangled on and decided to reply to? Kinda shows the average engagement level of DE-make shills and the nu-fags consooming them...

kdxj

>>712835270
>but we didn't got remakes after that for nearly 10 or 15 years?
That isn't the point.
REmake 1 was the game that made PEOPLE want more polished, upgraded versions of their favorite games. The entire FF7 remake fever can be directly rooted to the release of the REmake 1.

It is also why many of us old fans were originally excited as fuck, when the REmake 2 project was finally announced circa 2015, after the "shockingly great sales" of the Remake's HD port; RE-fans had been dreaming of RE2 getting THE REmake treatment for almost 1.5 decades, and now it was about to come true!
... except all we got was yet another over-shoulder action game with extra handholding + cut content + paid Classic OST DLC as a nostalgia bait.

>>712835372
>just don’t want them to play it safe.
Making a quick UE5 asset-flip over-shoulder 3rd person action game with potential wishy washy stealth elements, button prompts all over the screen and yellow paint is THE most "safe" route one can take this day and age.

Seriously, underaged 00s' kids clearly don't understand how much work, skill and effort it takes to replicate classic RE's and SH's gameplay, in-game cinematography, and overall pacing.

I know it's never gonna happen but it would be cool if they bring back Andy from the Lost Silent Hill game called Play Novel: Silent Hill

Nigga was fighting Cheryl lol

>another remake
this is all so tiresome
where are some new ideas?

>>712835990
>That isn't the point.
i agree with you. i just focused on that single part of the text because its the only one i disagree
i wonder if mafia definitive edition is true to the original or different (it have been 20 years since i played the original)

>>712836205
>where are some new ideas?
Too "risky" for the triple-A peasants.
Which is why they're also seething about the success of Expedition 33 as we speak. Many middle-man zoomies in makeshift management jobs don't like the idea of having to get creative.

>>712836205
new franchise = sells less than known franchise = that doesn't work for the shits at the company
doesn't help you have retards saying everything is a flop if it doesn't sell 300 billions
fuck i remember crapcum saying their sales didn't meet their expectations but still made profit, i believe it was for re5

>>712835270
Nta but the RE2 scenario from Darkside Chronicles is unironically way more faithful and respectful to the OG than the actual RE2 remake.

Every scene has much more weight in them. The remake just looks bland in comparison. Take the ending for example. It actually makes you feel bad for the characters. You can't say the same for the 2019 remake and its forced comedy undertones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rabmzkDOn3o

>>712836304
>i wonder if mafia definitive edition is true to the original or different
Never played either version, but I have seen some mixed takes on the new version.
I always instruct people to play both versions if they're unsure about the remake. Preferably start with the OG, so the changes are more apparent later on.

>>712836791
i already played the definitive edition since i played the original when it released
guess at some point i'll play the originals to see the difference

>>712836205
>>712836342
>>712836486
We're getting a new game, niggers

>>712838621
its silent hill
inb4 its not silent hill

>>712838621
>Fatal Siren: When They Cry - Scholar of the First Sin
I was cautiously optimistic until I saw the gameplay.
It also does not negate the fact that Bloopoops and Jewnami are on an endless de-making rampage. SH3 is already confirmed to follow, and of course they'll do 4 afterwards. I fear for the MGS bros.

>>712829834 (OP)
They will fuck up, and their current upcoming title is fucked up, as they are, fucked up.

>>712839119
Sh2remake was far better than the original

>>712829834 (OP)
>Hopes and dreams?
Semi-fixed camera angles

>>712829834 (OP)
>Hopes and dreams?

Cheryl explores her sexuality and realizes she was always a boy.

>>712839175
original was good/decent overall but pretty meh compared to 1
the remake managed to make it slightly scarier, enemies were a bit more dangerous, but combat was still shit and the og atmosphere was completely gone
as far as remakes go it's not completely bad but only because the original wasn't the best to begin with
so you end up with a meh remake for a meh game

>>712839000
>I was cautiously optimistic until I saw the gameplay.
this, the game will flop HARD. they are out of their mind with the price tag for this cheap cash grab

>>712839119
cronos will be a semi-flop too. bloober can only copy not create

>>712829834 (OP)
>bloober announced after SH2remake that they want to become more independent and make their own games
>immediately jump back in bed with Konami to remake SH1
lmao so did Konami just offer a bag they couldn't turn down or is this just the usual nip spinelessness?

>>712834870
RE9 popped off because the trailer came with a release date that's less than a year away

>>712839837
bloober is polish you fucking retard

>>712839000
>>Fatal Siren: When They Cry - Scholar of the First Sin
K I N O

But seriously. The game looks beautiful AND fun at the same time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7si0vlJxS0&t=6s

>remake
gaaaaaay
gonna be playing silent hill f(urude) instead

>>712839456
Easy on the Sweet Baby Inc. consultants, Bloober.